Miami-Dade Board of County Commissioners - May 05, 2026

Take your seats. Let's get started. We're going to start, commissioners, if you want to join me up here. Good morning, everyone. For our first presentation, we are going to be declaring May 2026 as Jewish American Heritage Month. This observance is dedicated to celebrating the history, culture, and countless contributions of Jewish Americans to the U.S. And with that, I will now turn it over to the sponsoring commissioner, Commissioner Steinberg, for the official presentation. Thank you, Chairman. First of all, thank you all for being here this morning. Yes, we've been wonderfully lucky to be able to do this every month. And actually, for those of you who don't know, today is a Jewish holiday called Lagba Omer, which is a celebratory holiday, so it's very fitting to do this. Yes, we have a lot of holidays. But, you know, Miami-Dade is a vibrant, thriving community, and it's my honor to declare today, proclaim it on behalf of our mayor, our county commission, as hereby proclaim May 2026 as Jewish American Heritage Month in Miami-Dade County. And I want to acknowledge and call up, and of course, my colleagues will say a few words, members from JCS, from the Holocaust Memorial, from G3, and from Jewish Federation, please come up. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. This is a very special day, and I'm so very grateful to see the partners who I have partnered with, in particular, the Jewish Federation. I'm so grateful for the work and the contributions that you have made. No question, as the commissioner said, we have a thriving Jewish community. And in my district, in particular, I have very many constituents that are Jewish, and I've always said to them, be proud that you are, and that we welcome you and embrace you. And so it's my honor to be here today for this very important designation. Thank you. Mayor Levine Cava is unfortunately running late and asked me to just say a few words. Obviously, she, as the first Jewish mayor of Miami-Dade County, has tremendous pride in her heritage and long history, you know, dating back from the pogroms in Europe and her family coming over, and just wanted me to say thank you for this honor. And as the husband of a Jewish woman and the father of a Jewish woman, I'm proud of my now in Jewish heritage. So congratulations. Yeah, let's see. Hi, everybody. Josh Sayles, Jewish Federation. I really want to express our appreciation to this commission, to our elected officials, to the chairman, to the mayor, to Commissioner Steinberg, Commissioner Lopez. Sometimes these proclamations really mean a lot to the community. And I know we talk a lot, we talk your ear off about the rising tide of anti-Semitism and some of the fear that's been going on in the community, especially since October 7th. But it really means especially a lot, not just to talk about people who are targeting us, but to talk about the Jewish community itself and the positive contributions that our community has and will continue to make to Miami-Dade County. And so thank you very much for recognizing us. It means a lot to a lot of your constituents. We're really grateful for it. All right, let's do a photo. Where do you want us, Garfield? How much? Of course. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. All right, let's get through to the next one. If you all could take your seats or quietly exit. I got my Western, you know, we just had the rodeo, so. And there was like, wasn't there like boots something at the zoo? Wasn't there like something Western there, too? You see, boots and jeans or something? All right. Our next presentation is a very special presentation that we have this morning, a proclamation declaring May 5th, 2026, which is officially Cinco de Mayo. All right. Hope you all are ready for margaritas and tacos. As Ron McGill Day in recognition of the remarkable career and contribution that Ron McGill has had here in Miami-Dade County. Although I learned something new, originally not from Miami-Dade, from New York City, Mr. McGill has dedicated more than 45 years of his life to care, preservation, and advocacy of wildlife, serving as the zoo communications and media relations director, that's long, for Zoo Miami. And back when it wasn't called Zoo Miami, right? It was called Metro Zoo. And enriching the lives of residents across Miami-Dade County. Throughout his distinguished career, he has become a trusted global voice in wildlife education and conservation, hosting educational wildlife programs, and appearing on major national and international platforms, including National Geographic, Discovery, ABC's Good Morning America, CNN, and many others. It's like a real celebrity here in Miami-Dade County that we have. And I will say, I will say, as I call Ron up to join us up here, is I used to represent him as a state legislator when I was in the state. And Ron, I need to know, there's a question I've been wanting to ask you guys. So when I represented Ron McGill, I, you know, starting my political career, and I would knock on doors for hours, for hours, and I'd always come across Ron's door. But I'd never get him there. But his car was there. So either he thought I was selling something, either he thought I was a Jehovah's Witness, or he just doesn't like politicians. Or maybe all three. One of all three. But it was my pleasure to represent you when I served in the legislature. It's a pleasure to have you in the community. You've been in the community for a long time. You have not moved out of the neighborhood. So I appreciate that. A lot of people, as they grow in their careers and in their life, they move to other neighborhoods. I'm glad that you stayed in the area that you are. And I remember, which I don't want to age you or myself, but I remember growing up seeing you and wanting to be, you know, a cool kid that could hold all these cool animals. So now I grow up, and I'm honored to be presenting you with this proclamation. And where is my proclamation? All right. All right. I'm going to hold it while some of my colleagues may want to say a few words. And then, of course, we'll want to hear from you as well. You want to start, Commissioner, Vice Chair, as the Commissioner? First of all, let me just say thank you so much. And you've always been the voice for our furry friends. And secondly, I know you couldn't have done it without your beautiful wife. Let's give her a round of applause. And together, you guys have done amazing things for the district, especially the zoo and all the surrounding areas. So thank you so much for everything. Anyone else on this side? Ditto him, by the way. He was a good high school basketball player before my time, just so you know, Palmetto Panther. But congratulations to you and the family. I guess the question now, do you want to play them one-on-one? No, no. Director? You got the microphone. Ron, congratulations. As someone who grew up going to Metro Zoo since I was a baby, your work has been transformational to the zoo, to the county. You have literally saved species from extinction. So thank you for doing that. I love how much you always honor your family and your wife and everything that you do. So congratulations for almost 50 years of representing our community. Your retirement was certainly something that I was sad to see. And we hope that you continue honoring our community with your presence and your work. So thank you so much and congratulations. And I just want to echo all the sentiments that have been already said. And I remember a few years ago, I remember sitting right there and saying, as Ron McGill goes, I go. And I'm so grateful that you're not actually leaving our family, extended family, that you're going to be around working with the Zoo Foundation, which does such tremendous work. And it's so important that people understand the work that it does. And with you being a part of that, it's just going to make it that much more special. So thank you. Good morning, everybody. I'm Christina White. I'm the Parks Director. Ron, I first want to say thank you for being here. Because for somebody who is so well-known, such a large and wonderful public figure, he doesn't really like a lot of attention, interestingly. So we got you here. Thank you for letting us honor you. Congratulations on such a long and decorated career. There's clearly so much to be proud of. So many people here to support you. So thank you for that. I think maybe I've worked with you the least amount of time out of the people who are on this stage. But it has been very nice getting to know you and having our chats and hearing your perspective about things. It's been wonderful. And I'm also very relieved that you're not going very far. And this retirement really just means you're moving to the next building at the Zoo Miami Foundation, that you're going to be around, still doing what you do and helping to support and promote the zoo. So thank you so much for that. On behalf of the mayor, who can't be here today, she's so sad that she had an emergency come up. She says that she considers you a friend. And so she is very sorry to miss it. So I'm just going to read a couple of the comments because I don't want to get it wrong. Just very quickly on her behalf, you have made such an impact on young conservationists that is going to last. You have inspired very young conservationists and have helped support them throughout their learning opportunities. So thank you for your energy and your passion. Thank you for everything that you have given to Zoo Miami and to Miami-Dade County and the wildlife conservation around the world. And that we are very glad that even as you enter the next chapter, you will remain part of the Zoo Miami family through the foundation and as a goodwill ambassador for conservation liaisons. So it is her honor to proclaim May 5th, 2026, Ron McGill Day. Okay. Just quickly, Ron, I just want to say thank you for everything you've done for Zoo Miami and I'm glad you're going to be continuing to be with us with the foundation. But, and I've mentioned this to before that all the work you do is incredible, but I think the most incredible thing you do is the dedication you put to make a wish. I think those children and those families that you work with them and just show them something very, very special. It means a lot to me in a sense, because I think that's something that is very unique and you do such a great job with that. And thank you so much for doing all that. I really do appreciate that. And so does everyone here. So thank you guys. And a round of applause also for the entire Zoo Miami team. Not all are here today, but those that came out, I will say that traffic was extra today. I don't know if it was because of Cinco de Mayo, people were trying to get to their work early, to leave early. I don't know what it was. That was my sergeant's theory anyway. But I should have probably asked you this offline, Ron, but question. I remember as a little kid, did I first see you, were you on Sabado Gigante? That's what I thought. So sure enough, you know, my abuelita forced me to watch Sabado Gigante every Saturday. And that's where I first saw Ron as a little kid. I mean, I had no choice. Like I couldn't change the channel. First of all, there wasn't many others. No, I looked forward to your part. Your portion of the show was the one I looked forward to. It was a cool one for a little kid, right? The animal portion. I didn't want to see like, I don't know, now growing up, it was like the women, the cars, like, I don't know, the chacal, I guess, you know. But the animals was definitely like the cool one. And every week, like, it's kind of sad, but what I looked forward to is like, what animal was it going to be this week? Like, what were we going to learn about this week? So with that, Ron, we'd like to hear from you, but I want to just read this really quickly and be it resolved that the mayor, Daniel Levine-Cava, myself as chairman of the board, Anthony Rodriguez, and my colleagues, members of the board of county commissioners on behalf of Miami-Dade County, and its nearly 2.8 million residents, do hereby proclaim today, Tuesday, May 5th, 2026, as Ron McGill Day. So this is officially for you, my friend. Thank you for everything, and we would like to hear from you a little bit. Thank you very much, everybody. I'm sorry to pull you guys away from your workday. You know, this is like the commissioner was saying, I'm not very comfortable with this kind of stuff. But at the end of the day, I want to just bring attention to the people you don't see. I've said it over and over again. You know, we live in a world today where people see you on television, they hear you on the radio, they think you're important, and it couldn't be any further from the truth. It's the people you don't see that are the important people. You know, when I was first hired 46 years ago by the founding director of the zoo, he told me something I'll never forget. He said, remember, pal, the people below you are much more important than the people above you. No disrespect to all of you up here. But, you know, he really made me understand that. So it's for, you know, it's for the custodial crew, it's for the walkway crew, it's for the horticulturists, the zookeepers, the maintenance people, the administrative staff, the security people, the people you don't see. I'm just a storyteller. They were the story. They are the story. They are the people that make the zoo what it is. I'm just kind of riding their coattails. So I accept this really on behalf of all of them. So this is kind of like Zoo Miami Employee Volunteer Foundation Day. They really made my career. I want to thank the county for 46 years of just tremendous opportunity that's been given to me to travel around the world. I've been able to set foot on every continent on this planet. I never dreamed of that as a small kid growing up in a small apartment in New York City from immigrant parents. I never thought I'd be able to do this stuff. So I've been able to live a dream that was made possible through the county. For anybody starting in the county now, if you can stick with it, it pays off in the end. I can tell you, you'll never ever regret looking back. The opportunity is given to me and the security it's given me, the benefits. These are things you just don't take. You take for granted when you're younger. But I'm telling you, as someone who's been here for 46 years, it's priceless what the county has given to me. So I can never say thank you enough to all of them. And everyone here has been very supportive. So thank you very much, Commissioner. Thank you, Ron. And before we take the official photo, I want to add one thing that I noticed. And it has nothing to do with the Ron McGill Day, but it speaks to your character and who you are as a human, as a person. And I just saw it happen. And it's something that I value and I love that I still have in my home. And it's that still, after all these years married, you still make your wife laugh. And I noticed that and it reminded me of my spouse, my wife. And that's a big thing. So that speaks to the volume of who you guys are as a couple, as a person. So thank you for that. And thank you for being part of this community. Godfrey, tell us what to do. All right. We got one more presentation. All right. We got one more presentation. Thank you for that, Sergeant. All right. Today's last special presentation is a day of remembrance, a proclamation to the family of the late Thelma Vernell Anderson Gibson. She was a true Miami trailblazer whose impact spanned health care, civil rights, public service, and community development across Miami-Dade County. She broke barriers as one of the first black nurses at Jackson Memorial Hospital, advancing equity in health care. And beyond her nursing career, she was a dedicated civil rights advocate who worked to push for desiguration and expand opportunities for black communities. She also contributed significantly to economic empowerment and housing by helping establish the Miami-Dade Women's Chamber of Commerce and working to expand affordable housing and revitalize Coconut Grove. Ms. Gibson even served as an interim Miami City Commissioner. I don't know that I knew that. Yes. Demonstrating her willingness to lead and serve wherever she was needed. Truly, she leaves behind a legacy defined by service, leadership, and lasting impact that continues to inspire our community today. And to the Gibson family, thank you for coming and for allowing us to honor her remarkable life and legacy. With that, I will turn it over to sponsoring Commissioner Regalado to do some additional remarks. Thank you. Thelma was so amazing. She inspired us every day. It would take a day just to remember all the amazing things that she did. But since Mr. Cherry didn't know that she was named, when they told her that they wanted to name her as the first woman ever named to the City of Miami Commission, she said that the last thing she wanted to be was a politician. Thereby insulting all the politicians that were talking to her at the moment about the naming. But she graciously accepted it because it was the right thing for the district and for the city. And she was amazing. She was such a wonderful commissioner. And when they asked her if she would run again, she said, absolutely not. And she stepped down and she didn't even participate. Yes, she did. She actually kept her word. That's the city of Miami. That's a tough one. But, you know, her dedication to the Grove, to its history, to the archives, to just doing the work every day was inspiring to all of us. Thelma has touched every single human that has ever met her. And even until the last moment at her birthday party, she wanted to be there. She had the video camera. She was going to get dressed and she was going to go down there and she wasn't taking no for an answer. A force of nature. So it is an honor and a privilege to celebrate her and all her amazing accomplishments, including the Thelma Gibson Foundation. She has touched so many lives and will continue to inspire all of us. So thank you. Come on down, niece, family. Yes, nieces. How many nieces does Thelma Gibson have? It's a big, big family. Join us. There you go. Let's hear from them and then I'll come back to you so that you can. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And to the family, listen, you all know how I felt about her. She was truly, truly special. A lot of times there are people in this community that quietly shape who we become. They redefine expectations. They break down social norms. They push us to go further and farther and faster than anyone else. She did that. She did that throughout time. She lived long enough not just to see Miami-Dade County changed. She actually lived long enough to help change it. And that's important. She's one of those names and one of those people who is at the foundation of who we are now, but also the kind of the postmark, the pole mark for where we actually want to be and who we want to become. She was that special. I had an opportunity dozens and dozens of times. And listen, every time I bent over, she said, take the picture. We have a ton of selfies together. You know, we have a ton of selfies together. She was a beautiful person with a beautiful spirit and an extraordinary mind. Congratulations. And thank you for lending your, your aunt to us. She was special. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and to the Gibson family. Thank you all so much. And you all understand how much we love Ms. Thelma. And I've always stated that there are people out there who truly defines life's meaning. And life's meaning has always been for me moments and memories. And I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that Ms. Gibson was that. Everyone in that community throughout the South, the North, or an entire state can define that moment when there was a memory or a memory created. And in my humble opinion, there's no greater testament to a human being's contribution to our society than creating those moments and those memories. So thank you so much for everything. Thank you so much. I've known you for so long. I didn't know you were related to Ms. Thelma Gibson. As a young employee at Jackson Memorial Hospital, as part of our orientation, we learned about the legacy of Thelma Gibson. For those of you who do not know, when she graduated as a nurse from out of state, I don't remember the school, she was relegated to the colored space, the Alamo at Jackson. Did she fight? Did she complain? No. She was there for many years providing badly needed services to patients at Jackson. I continued to collaborate with her when I was a board member of the Health Foundation of South Florida. And then I worked closely with Marlene. I don't know if she's still with her. I'm pretty sure she's still with Marlene. She's still with Ms. Thelma Gibson. And we continue our collaboration. One thing I'd like to add, last thing I'd like to say, I don't want to be long, is that even in a mature age, realize I didn't say old age. There's no such thing as old age. Even in a mature age, she was always willing to learn and to do things, to do selfies and do things. Nothing could stop her. And I hope that we will do whatever we can to keep her legacy alive. Because in a quiet way, her quiet but so powerful leadership, she has made an impact in Miami-Dade County. So let us do our best to keep her legacy alive. Thank you. All right. Moments and memories. I agree with you, Vice Chairman. And I'm remembering sitting in a room with Ms. Gibson when we were both told we were going to be in the archives of social justice at the Richter Library at University of Miami. It's a matter of great personal pride for me to be in her presence. And I'm just thinking about her shining down from heaven on us and that smile, that quiet confidence, even mixed with that humility. And with the number of nieces, and I understand there's a surprise coming, but they remember exactly where they are in the order. Misty, which number are you? And you? Seven. All right. There you go. And at the funeral, which I had the great honor to and privilege to attend, it was all orchestrated by Ms. Gibson. And so they followed to the T, the prayers, the part of the Bible that was read, no public testimony. And it was really a day that was a fitting tribute to this wonderful woman. Thank you. Mr. Chair, I would like to pass the mic for a moment to my chief operating officer who had the privilege of working directly with Thelma for a brief message. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor and Chair and Commissioner. I'll be brief. I had the pleasure to meet Mrs. Gibson. That's how I was called, Mrs. Gibson. Back in the mid to early 90s, when I first moved back to Miami and was getting involved in community, living in the Grove and sitting down with her. And for the, really since that time, whether during my time as County Commissioner in District 7, working with the West Grove and the community, or issues involving children, health, affordable housing, she was a real inspiration. And, and is one of those people who, when you call her a trailblazer, you're, it's an understatement. She really earns that point. And, and she was always there with a smile. And so, uh, we'll all miss her, but I'm proud to have, and the family was always wonderful as well. Thank you. And of course, we're going to want to hear from you. Uh, but let me just hand this over and, uh, say that be it resolved that the mayor of the County, Dan Levine Cava to my right, myself as chairman of the board, Anthony Rodriguez, and all of my colleagues of the Board of County Commissioners, uh, on behalf of Miami-Dade County, and it's 2.8 plus or minus residents, million residents do hereby proclaim Wednesday, February 11th, 2026, as day in remembrance of Thelma Vernal Anderson Gibson. Congratulations. And thank you for being here. I'm going to stick to my notes. Good morning, everyone to the honorable Board of County Commissioners, chairman Rodriguez, vice chairman Keone McGee, so many special members around this circle to my aunt, and especially to your sponsoring commissioner, um, Raquel Regalado of district seven, and the honor of mayor, honorable mayor, Daniela Levine Cava, who shall now be known as the honorary niece number 10. I'm Dr. Todra Anderson, niece number seven of the amazing and comparable Thelma Vernal Anderson Gibson, who was and will always be a true Shiro legend and all around true Miami-Dade County servant leader. It is my honor with humility to stand before you on behalf of the entire Anderson and Gibson families with my cousin that many of you all know, Misty Brown, niece number five, as you honor and proclaim the life's work and legacy of our family matriarch, our aunt Thelma, one of our greatest loves. She was and will always be a true champion for justice, especially for those who needed it the most in the West Grove and beyond. She was a resilient woman rising above truly humble beginnings. And, um, as you've already heard breaking many of the barriers that sought to contain her. She's a compassionate, extraordinary nurse and an avid, avid healthcare advocate. As you've already heard the namesake of the Thelma Gibson health initiative under the leadership of Ms. Merlene Barton, who cannot be here with us today. So it's of course by divine providence that we're here celebrating that extraordinary nurse. As we kick off national nurses week tomorrow, celebrating the power of nurses because she loved people so much. It was her life's work that all people have access to excellent, affordable healthcare, not just access, but excellent, affordable healthcare. She was also a passionate cheerleader for many of you around this circle. So it's wonderful to be here because of her. My mother, who was also a nurse got to rise through the ranks and myself as a physician, I am now the chief medical officer at Memorial hospital West. I was born in Miami day County in Opa Laca. So that for me is a huge Testament. And that's because she was right there along with my uncle theater Gibson, who many of you knew father Gibson pushing us for those who were willing and committed to do the work. But as my aunt, my cousin Mel, who was niece number nine called her, she was a true Proverbs 31 woman. And for those of you know, Proverbs 31, that was Thelma Gibson, her legacy of love for us, her family in the Anderson and Gibson family, but also the Miami Dade County broader community family. We through us, she will live on forever. We are grateful that you all have honored her in this way and proclaim this in memory of our matriarch and yours, Thelma Vernell Anderson Gibson. Thank you so much. We are truly humbled and honored. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. And now Godfrey, all right, tell us where you want us. All right, guys, let's start quieting down. Sergeants, if you can help me out, Albert, if you could call the roll. Good morning to all. Commissioner Bastian, Commissioner Bermudez, Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, Senator Garcia, Commissioner Gilbert, Commissioner Gonzalez, Commissioner Hardiman, Commissioner Lopez, Commissioner Emiliano Orbis, Commissioner Regalado, Commissioner Steinberg, Vice Chairman McGee, Chairman Rodriguez. We have 10 members present and we have a quorum. All right, please stand this morning for the invocation given by Senior Pastor Robert L. Stevens III of the Logos Baptist Church at the invitation of Commissioner Gilbert, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner Gilbert. Let us pray. Gracious and loving God, we thank you for this day and for the opportunity to gather together in service to our community. We lift up the leaders of Miami-Dade County, asking that you grant them wisdom, patience, and understanding as they carry out their responsibilities. May they be guided with clarity in their decisions and steadfastness in their purpose. We also lift up the people of this county, every family, every neighborhood, every individual. May they feel supported, heard, and volume. Bring comfort where there is concern. Hope where there is uncertainty and peace where there is tension. Help us all work together with a mutual respect, listening with open hearts, and speaking with clear care. Let this be a place where thoughtful dialogues lead to meaningful progress for the good of all. As this meeting begin, we ask for your presence being bring calm, insight, and unity so that the work done here reflects compassion, fairness, and a shared commitment to well-beings of this community. We offer this prayer in your holy name. Amen. All right, colleagues, as we move into reasonable opportunity, I'd just like to remind you all that you have a ballot on your desk. Please make sure you make your selections and return it to the clerk. Madam Attorney, can we move into reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard at this time? Good morning. Yes. All right. Reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard is now open. When I call your name, please state the item you're speaking on, your name and address, and you will have two minutes to speak. I have John Beaudry and Stephanie Brown. Please come up. Each one approach one of the wells. Ms. Brown and Mr. Beaudry. Please state your name and address, the item you're speaking on, and you have two minutes to speak. Good morning, all. My name is Stephanie Brown. Stay at 853 Northwest, 139th Street, Miami, Florida, 33168. Once again, good morning. My name is Stephanie Brown, and I'm in favor of the increase. Oh, I'm sorry. Item 4i. I'm sorry. I'm in the favor of the increase for item 4i. If we think realistically, everything around us in our everyday lives increases. FP&L, car insurance, homeowners insurance, groceries, and so forth. The increase Solid Waste is asking for is to provide those necessary services so that we can continue to deliver excellence every day. Solid Waste is more than your twice a week garbage pickup. It's your trash service. It's your transfer stations. It's your disposal service, and it's your TRC stations in your community. If a hurricane hits, Solid Waste employees are out there cleaning up and helping to get our community back in order. When COVID hits, Solid Waste continues to deliver the same excellence it delivers every day nonstop. So yes, not only am I a Solid Waste employee, but I am also a taxpayer who is in favor of the increase. Thank you. Thank you so much, Ms. Brown. Is John Baudre here? John Baudre going once, going twice. All right. Reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard is now closed. Madam Attorney, can we set the agenda at this time? Was that a yes? Can we set the agenda? Yes, but can you give me two minutes? I just got a couple. Thank you, sir. Absolutely. Commissioner Bastain, you're recognized while your attorney prepares. Thank you so much, Mr. Chair, to everyone. As you know, the month of May, in the month of May, we are celebrating several different groups in Miami-Dade County. One of them is the Haitian American community. And this month is Haitian Heritage Month. I'd like to invite each and every one of you to partake in all the celebrations that are taking place throughout Miami-Dade County to learn about our culture, our food, our music. I know some of you are already familiar with the food, but I ask you to mingle and learn about us and learn about our history, our contributions to this great nation starting in 1776 when our people fought for the independence of this country, when our ancestors founded the different cities in this country. So please take time to learn. And then this afternoon at 12, I invite you downstairs to also partake in that celebration. Bring your children. Help them learn about who we are because once we do, we realize that we have more in common than difference. It's also Jewish American History Month and also Asian American History Month. So we have plenty of opportunities to come and mingle, get together, learn about each other, and then you'll find out that we have so much more in common than different. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Commissioner Bastien. And I hope we're done by noon so that I can join you and support you in your event downstairs at noon for Haitian Month. All right. Madam Attorney, still need a few seconds? Mr. Chair, yes, please. A few more seconds. I'm still getting some additional information. Okay. Do I have to set the agenda prior to recognizing the mayor for her appointment of a new director? No, Mr. Chair. All right. Madam Mayor, you are up to be recognized for your appointment of the director of the People and Internal Operations Department, Raimundo Delgado. And if he would please come down. Thank you so much. He apparently prefers to use the name Ray, but we have too many Rays, so we're going to call him Raimundo. I'm so sorry. Give me one second. All right. So I'm very delighted to appoint Mr. Raimundo Delgado as director of the People and Internal Operations Department, actually effective yesterday. So we're very, very pleased that he was able to move so quickly. And his appointment does follow a nationwide search for a leader with the experience, the operational background, and the proven expertise needed to support the department's mission. He brings a very strong proven track record in the public sector, administration, internal operations, financial oversight, procurement, logistics, facilities management, and enterprise service delivery. He has more than 25 years of leadership experience managing complex government and operational environments, including multidisciplinary teams and multimillion-dollar budgets. His recent leadership with the Office of the Tax Collector and our Elections Department, before it was an independent office, reflect deep experience in strategic planning, operational controls, compliance, and modernizing service delivery. He also served prior to that at the Miami-Dade County Public Schools as he was district director. He led district-wide distribution operations, and he supported more than 400 schools. He managed over $20 million in annual textbook procurement, and oversaw a $5 million departmental operating budget. His experience at the school board further demonstrates his ability to manage large-scale operations, align resources, strengthen internal systems, and support essential services across a public institution. He holds a Bachelor in Science and Finance from Florida State. He's got a strong financial foundation for this role. And I also want to extend a thank you to our chief, Carla Denise Edwards, who once again served as interim director, and she provided steady leadership during the transition. So this is an important step forward for our county and for a critically important department over all of our internal and human resources. Thank you so very much. Thank you, Mayor. And Rai, before maybe some of us say a few things, do you want to, would you like a few seconds to? Yes, through the chair. Good morning, Mayor, Chairman, and Commissioners. First, I'd like to thank the mayor for the opportunity to lead this department. I'm proud to call this community home, having been born and raised here, as well as raising my family. Twenty-nine years of that have been living in District 6. My career has been rooted in public service, as mentioned earlier, with the tax collector, elections department, and with the public school system. I'm truly honored to lead the PIOD. This department is central to how the county operates, supporting approximately 30,000 employees through human resources, maintaining 36 facilities, managing a fleet of 15,000 vehicles, along with other essential operational functions that keep government running every day. My focus is clear to support our employees so they can perform at the highest level, strengthen operations, to improve coordination across departments, leverage technology, and ensure accountability in all that we do. I look forward to working with each of you as you continue to deliver it to the community. Thank you. So, Ray, I know that there's a lot of rays in the county already. The mayor may opt to call you Raymundo, but, I mean, I could just call you Rye, you know, because it's Raymundo with an I, you know. So, Ray, look, I know that you served with the tax collector and you have a great team over at the tax collector's office. I, of course, am hopeful that the mayor and yourself poach the situation correctly from the tax collector and that there's no hard feelings from him that you joined the county. But I will tell you that you're also joining a great team here at PIOD and one of those folks that I have to recognize because I think it's a great addition to now serve under your leadership is Danny Borges. He's one of your assistant directors. I'm sure you've met him already. But we lean on him often, a lot of us up here, to resolve issues for not just our offices, but departments and all of Miami-Dade County. So, you have a great team. Make sure you consider that. And congratulations. Welcome aboard. Thank you. Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized. Thank you. Raymundo, congratulations. I hear good things about you. So, I'm sure you do a great job. Mr. Chairman, if it's appropriate, I have questions to the administration on this, though, because it's come to my attention that they're actually doing a restructuring of the department. And so, if they're restructuring the department, I just, I think it's interesting to restructure your department after you hire someone. Because if you restructure it before you hire someone, you by nature change the people who can actually apply for the position. See, if you need A, B, and C experience, but you only have A experience, you can't apply. But then if you remove all of those other criteria, you actually have shaped the applicant pool. And so, I'm just curious about why you chose to restructure department after the process. Through the chair, we are always making improvements in the structure. We've done a number of changes throughout my time as mayor. In this particular case, we're reducing by approximately 100, 1,000-person department and shifting some of those duties to a different portfolio to better spread the obligations. Certainly, we've discussed this move with our new director, who's comfortable with this. But I hear your point, Mr. Commissioner. But we're always working on realignment and nothing particularly noteworthy here, in my opinion. Mr. Chairman, just for reply, I appreciate your opinion. I think I get to determine what's noteworthy for me. But it's noteworthy for me that you actually change the responsibilities of the person who you just hired. And if you had done an application or a national search before that, other people could have applied. It is the opinion of this humble commissioner that maybe if you're going to do that because you have been mayor for six years. So you haven't had the ability to actually, I guess for five years, you've got the ability to assess how this department should be structured. Maybe you should do that before you actually engage in a national search. And so I'm comfortable with your candidate. I'd be substantially more comfortable with the administration if this was done in a more transparent way. It really reeks of a lack of transparency to run a whole national search hire somebody, and then reduce the scope of their obligations, thereby changing the experience of the people who could have applied. When we talk about locking people out of opportunities, this is how you do it quietly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Commissioner. All right, Raimundo, welcome aboard. Thank you very much. Congratulations. All right, Madam Attorney, you are ready to set the agenda. I know you are. I can see it in your face. Isn't that like a song? I hope so, Mr. Chair. So in addition to today's regular commission meeting, at the appropriate time, the board will recess the commission meeting and convene as the Naranja Lakes Community Redevelopment Agency. In addition, I have the following changes. 2B3, Senator Garcia adds this item to the poll list. 2B4, Commissioner Melian Orbis adds this item to the poll list. 2B11, Senator Garcia adds this item to the poll list. I'll release it. Release it? Okay. 3A9 and supplement, Commissioner Gonzalez adds this item to the poll list. 4H, Chairman Rodriguez, Commissioners Bermudez, and Melian Orbis are requesting to bifurcate this item when the first reading items are considered. 4I, Chairman Rodriguez and Commissioners Bermudez, Melian Orbis, and Gonzalez will request to bifurcate this item at the time we consider the first reading items. 4K, Chairman Rodriguez and Commissioner Bermudez will request to bifurcate the item. 4L, Commissioner Bermudez is requesting to bifurcate this item when the first reading items are considered. 4M, Chairman Rodriguez and Commissioner Bermudez request to bifurcate this item when the first reading items are considered. 8N5, Commissioner Melian Orbis adds this item to the poll list. 8P7, Commissioner Melian Orbis adds this item to the poll list. 9A1, Commissioner Regalado is adding this item to the poll list. 11A4, Senator Garcia adds this item to the poll list. 11A7, Commissioner Bermudez adds this item to the poll list. 11A8, Commissioner Cohen-Higgins and Commissioner Regalado pull this item, and Commissioner Gilbert releases his poll of this item. 11A9, Commissioner Bermudez adds this item to the poll list. I have some additional requests for co-sponsorship and sponsorship. 1D2, Commissioner Steinberg. 7A and 7C, Commissioner Bastian. 8N1, Commissioner Regalado as co-sponsor. 8P7, Commissioner Regalado is assuming sponsorship of this item. 11A7, Commissioner Melian Orbis. And 11A12, Commissioner Bastian. The items to be considered at today's meeting will be those listed in the printed final agenda with the additions, deferrals, withdrawals, and scrivener's errors noted in the Chairman's memorandum. And the items I just mentioned, the Commission will approve all of these items by a single vote, setting the agenda, except ordinances for first reading, public hearings, ordinances set for second reading, item 8A2, which is a commercial service airport contract, which pursuant to Florida statute has to be voted on separately and has not been pulled, and the following poll list items. 2B3, 2B4, 2B11, 3A9. Oh, I'm sorry. 2B11 has been released. 2B3, 2B4, 3A9 and its supplement, 8A1 and supplements, 8N5, 8P7, 9A1, 11A4, 11A7, 11A8, 11A9, and 14B1, and its supplement, which is the ballot that you had referred to previously, Mr. Chair, that's been circulated. A motion to set the agenda is in order. Commissioner Steinberg, you're recognized. Apologies. Can you please pull 8P3? 8P3 is added to the poll list. Mr. Chair. Commissioner Bermudez, you're recognized. I'll release 8A1 and the supplement. All right. So Bermudez releasing 8A1 and supplement. I'll now entertain a motion to approve the agenda. It's been moved by Commissioner Bastian, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor of setting the agenda, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show the agenda hereby set. Madam Attorney, can I dispose of the aviation item at this time? I'll move it. Yes, Mr. Chair. That's item 8A2. 8A2 is being moved by Commissioner Gilbert, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. Is that a roll call? No. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show that aviation item passed. Is there another item we can dispose of now? Yes, Mr. Chair. My understanding is that 3A9 and its supplement was not supposed to be pulled. Instead, that's just a request for co-sponsorship. So if you'd like to move 3A9 and its supplement, that'd be appropriate. All right. 3A9 and supplement is hereby moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Bermudez. Is that? Yeah. Okay. All in favor of 3A9 and its supplement passing, signify by saying aye. All opposed, nay. Show that 11A7 off the pull list as well. Is that 11A7 or AP7? 11A7. 11A7. 11A7. Commissioner Steinberg, my co-chair. All right. Off the pull list or passed. Okay. I'm going to request a request to request a co-prime sponsorship and commend both of the sponsors for the item. So if that's okay with you, I will release it as long as I can be, you know, co-prime sponsorship. All right. So 11A7 is moved by Commissioner Bermudez, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show 11A7 off the pull list as well. Is that 11A7 or AP7? 11A7. 11A7. Commissioner Steinberg, my co-chair. All right. Off the pull list or passed? Are we? Commissioner Gilbert, I'm sorry? Did we remove it from the pull list? It's been passed and removed from the pull list, both. All right. Madam Attorney, can we now move into first reading items? Yes, Mr. Chair. I'll read them. All right. 4A has been deferred. 4B is an ordinance amending ordinance number 9468 relating to the Highland Lake Security Guard Special Taxing District in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 18 of the code to allow the use of license plate readers or other updated visitor management technology to document visitor vehicles entering and exiting the Special Taxing District, providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4C is an ordinance amending ordinance number 95-77 related to the Enchanted Lake Security Guard Special Taxing District in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 18 of the code to allow the use of license plate readers or other updated visitor management technology to document visitor vehicles entering and exiting the Special Taxing District, providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4C is an ordinance amending ordinance number 93-5 relating to the Coventry Security Guard Special Taxing District in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 18 of the code to allow the use of license plate readers or other updated visitor management technology to document visitor vehicles entering and exiting the Special Taxing District, providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4C is an ordinance amending ordinance number 94-151 relating to the Oak Forest Stationary Security Guard Special Taxing District in accordance with the provisions of Chapter 18 of the code to allow the use of license plate readers or other updated visitor management technology to document visitor vehicles entering and exiting the Special Taxing District, providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4C is an ordinance approving revolving line of credit for specified amount to county for purposes of providing funds to public health trust and paying cost of issuance, providing that such line of credit shall be secured by pledge revenues of the public health trust, approving terms of related commitment letter, approving form and execution of memorandum of understanding between county and public health trust regarding payment of line of credit from certain trust revenues, authorizing mayor or designee to take all actions as necessary to secure line of credit including entering into relating agreements and documents with terms consistent with those set forth in the commitment letter, authorizing mayor or mayor's designee to extend line of credit in the future without further board action, authorizing selection and appointment of paying agent if necessary, waiving provisions of resolution number R-130-06 and providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4G is an ordinance creating and establishing a special taxing district in the county, generally bound to north by theoretical southwest 215th street, on the east by southwest 110 avenue, on the south by southwest 216th street, Hanlon Drive, and on the west by theoretical southwest 110 place, known and described as Palm Bay South, multipurpose maintenance special taxing district, identifying services to be provided, authorizing and directing the mayor or designee to cost to be maintained and operated by various public improvements and providing for exclusion from the code and an effective date. 4G is an ordinance approving, adopting and ratifying non ad valorem assessment, roles, rates, and assessments, for 219 certain street lighting special taxing districts in the county, for the fiscal year commencing October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027, and providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4G is an ordinance approving, adopting and ratifying non ad valorem assessment, roles, rates, and assessments, for the solid waste collection service area of the county commencing October 1, 2026, providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4G is an ordinance approving, adopting and ratifying special assessment district rates for certain special taxing districts in the county, for rates decreasing or remaining flat for the fiscal year, commencing October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027, and providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4L is an ordinance approving, adopting and ratifying non ad valorem assessment, rules, rates, and assessments, for 15 certain multipurpose maintenance special taxing districts in the county, for the fiscal year commencing October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027, and providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4M is an ordinance approving, adopting and ratifying non ad valorem assessment, rules, rates, and assessments, for certain newly active street lighting special taxing districts in the county, for the fiscal year commencing October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027, and providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4M is an ordinance approving, adopting and ratifying non ad valorem assessment, rules, rates, and assessments, for 20 certain security guard special taxing districts, in the county, for the fiscal year commencing October 1, 2026, and ending September 30, 2027, and providing severability, exclusion from the code, and an effective date. 4M is an ordinance relating to the rapid transit system development zone, amending sections 33C-2, 33C-3.1, and 33C-3.3 of the code, expanding the smart corridor subzone of the rapid transit zone to encompass certain private property in the vicinity of Southwest 30 Avenue, and Southwest 28 Lane, located within a quarter mile of a public transit station, providing procedures and criteria related to public benefit proffers to be provided to the county, and allowances for certain development bonuses for certain properties, providing severability, inclusion in the code, and an effective date. Those are your first reading items. And I do have a number of bifurcations that have been requested. In addition to the ones you read already? No, but I didn't know if you wanted me to read them again. Oh, no, no, we got it. So, any other bifurcations in addition to the ones that have already been read? So, you know, now I'll entertain a motion for the non-bifurcated items of first reading. It's been moved by the vice chair, seconded by Commissioner Bastien. Clerk, please call the roll. Commissioner Bastien. Yes. Commissioner Bermudez. Yes. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. Commissioner Emiliano Orbis. Commissioner Regalado. Commissioner Steinberg. Vice Chairman McGee. Chairman Rodriguez. I vote yes. Motion passes unanimously. All right. Madam Attorney, just keep me honest as I call the bifurcated items for a vote. I'll entertain a motion for 4-H at this time. 4-H. A motion on 4-H. Anybody? Commissioner Bastien moves 4-H. It's seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. Clerk, please call the roll on 4-H. Commissioner Bermudez. No. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. No. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. No. Commissioner Gonzalez. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. Commissioner Emiliano Orbis. No. Commissioner Regalado. No. Commissioner Steinberg. Commissioner Bastien. Vice Chairman McGee. Yes, for now. Chairman Rodriguez. I vote no. We have a vote of 6-6. All right. 4-H fails. I'll entertain a motion for the more. So. Madam Attorney, what. Mr. May be recognized? Yes. I was just going to ask now what happens on 4-H, but is that kind of along the lines of what you're going to get into now? Yeah. It's along the lines. All right. You're recognized, Commissioner. Thank you. So. I mean, this is the street lighting districts, right? So people have decided that they wanted to have specialty street lights within our community and they were willing to pay for it and they taxed themselves for that. Is that correct, Madam County Attorney? Yes. And so, you know. This is a little. Let me just jump in. Okay. My understanding. So I voted yes on one that's what you just described. What I'm voting no on is this is an increase to an existing district. It's not the creation of it. I'm okay with the creation. I'm just speaking for myself, by the way. There was six. There was five other no votes. I'm okay with the creation because that the people actually vote for. The increase they're not voting for, which is why I'm okay with the creation and I voted yes, but not for this one. That's just me, though, to clarify the question. Point of order. Can we suspend the rules so we can actually discuss the items? All right. So you want to? Mr. Chairman, if I may. Yes. I move to reconsider by the way that 4-H passed. Was it 4-H? You can't reconsider. Which is why we have to suspend the rules. At this point, we haven't moved to the next item. We're still on the item. So no reconsideration. If somebody wanted to change their vote or another motions in order, whatever you'd like to do. For first reading, I'm going to go ahead and change my vote to get this. Okay. So, Clerk, can you just call the roll again? Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. No. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. Commissioner Gonzalez. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. Yes. Commissioner Milian Orbis. No. Commissioner Regalado. No. Commissioner Steinberg. Commissioner Bastian. Commissioner Bermudez. No. Vice Chairman McGee. Yes, for now. Chairman Rodriguez. I vote no. Motion passes 7 to 5. All right. I'll entertain a motion on 4-A. Been moved by Commissioner Gilbert. Seconded by. I need a second on 4-A. Commissioner Hardiman. Seconds 4-A. Clerk, please call the roll on 4-A. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. Commissioner Gonzalez. No. Commissioner Hardiman. Mr. Chairman, if I may. Senator Garcia. I'm going to go back and forth with this, and I apologize. 4-A is no for me. Yes. I apologize for that. No. It's no. It's no. All right. Clerk, please make sure Senator Garcia is counted as a no. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. No. Commissioner Milian Orbis. No. Commissioner Regalado. No. Commissioner Steinberg. Commissioner Bastian. Yes. Commissioner Bermudez. No. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. No. Vice Chairman McGee. Yes, for now. Chairman Rodriguez. Rodriguez. I vote no. Motion fails, 5-8. All right. Madam Attorney, do you want to walk us through, I mean, I'm happy to call the next item, but do you want to walk us through what happens now that it fails? Okay. Mr. Chair, I mean, until you've moved to the next item, one option for this board is to make another motion on 4-I. Once you've moved on to the next item, then the administration is free to present a different item for first reading. The procedure that is followed for purposes of including these not-of-alarm assessment rules on the tax bill means that this board must take action if that's the course of billing that you'd like to select before September 25th. So there's still some time. Those are at least two options for this board. Commissioner Gilbert. I do remember that. You're recognized. We are on first reading, though. Just keep that. Just, yeah. Mr. Chairman, so we're on first reading. So back to my prior motion, we'd have to actually suspend the rules to actually discuss it. But my understanding is that they're asking for the Consumer Price Index. It's by policy of this board that we ask the administration to come back with whatever it takes. Essentially, the CPI. That's. You're getting it? So they're actually giving it to us. So that's what I don't know what you want me to suspend the rules. What do you want me to? I don't know what you want me to do, but this is confusing at this point because we told them to come back with this number. They came back with the number and we voted no on not on the item itself. You're recognized. Yeah, I just I think it's important to Commissioner Gilbert's point that this board has given a series of directions and that we need to suspend those directions in order to get a budget that makes sense for the votes. And that hasn't happened. So that is true of solid waste. That is true of water and so that is true of a lot of things because there's a lot of things that automatically happen that we either need to unpend before we get a budget or, you know, we get a budget that we don't agree with and then we work through August again trying to fix it. I would say lesson learned from last year. We should probably undo some of these things and have those conversations so that we can have the mayor craft the budget that actually has the votes. I agree. So see, I'm going to I'm going to just I'm going to call the next item and I'm sorry, Commissioner. I know, but we're going to crush the procedure because I'm just going to go to the next item. I do want to thank Chief Coley and the mayor. You did bring this early enough where you could still bring back another option and we still be with plenty of time to get this done on time. So with that, I'll entertain a motion on 4K. 4K? I need a motion on 4K. I'll move it. It's been moved by Commissioner Garcia, seconded by Commissioner Regalado. Clerk, please call the roll on 4K. Commissioner Gilbert. Commissioner Gonzalez. 4. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. Yes. Commissioner Emiliano Orbis. Yes. Commissioner Regalado. Yes. Commissioner Steinberg. Yes. Commissioner Bastien. Yes. Commissioner Bermudez. No. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. No. Senator Garcia. Vice Chairman McGee. Yes. Chairman Rodriguez. I vote no. Motion passes 10 to 3. All right. Madam Attorney, is it 4L, the next bifurcated item? Yes. All right. I'll entertain a motion on 4L at this time. I'll entertain a motion on 4L, another special taxing district being moved by Commissioner Bastien, seconded by Commissioner Orbis. Clerk, please call the roll. Commissioner Gonzalez. 4. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. 4. Commissioner Emiliano Orbis. Yes. Commissioner Regalado. Yes. Commissioner Steinberg. Commissioner Bastien. Commissioner Bermudez. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. 4. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. Vice Chairman McGee. Yes. Chairman Rodriguez. I vote yes. Motion passes 12 to 1. Mr. Chair, I'll entertain a motion on 4M. I understand. I had a question, Mr. Chairman, to the Chair. I don't know whether it's you or the attorneys, but is it possible on these items, if we wanted to break out our own individual districts and have separate motions, meaning if there were special lighting districts, for instance, in District 1, I could break it out. And you all could do whatever you want to, but we know we need lights in District 1. And so, is that possible? What do you mean to break it out? Yeah. Just bifurcate out of the item. It passed already, though. Like the different districts, so going forward, when we get into these quagmires about specific special lighting districts, it might hit a little different if you were just doing it on, if I were saying I need it in my district, you all might be, it's not, it affects no one else, then maybe that could actually get the votes, because it occurs to me that I respect everybody's philosophical differences, but there are certain things that I've come to understand about government and services, and I know that those things have to happen in my district. Mr. Chairman. Commissioner Gilbert. I don't know that we've, maybe we have. I don't know that we've actually denied a new special taxing district on this board, as long as I've been here. I'm not sure. Maybe we have, but I don't believe we have. I think what's close to failing and didn't even fail is increases of established ones. But we're getting into the weeds. We're on a first reading item, and we're calling it closed. Commissioner Hardiman. Yeah, sure. I'm not speaking directly to a particular item, but in that spirit, I think you can bifurcate special taxing district. It's just its own resolution. I mean, I would dare to also say that if we want to save money, for instance, with solid waste, maybe reduce services in other areas and increase it or keep the same in the ones that would like it, right? So that's something I would support as well, because I know that in District 3, we need the trash pickup and the services. And so, you know, we're willing to support that, you know, and if it's at the detriment of other areas, then so be it, if that's what the commissioners choose. Thank you, Commissioner. I'm going to go ahead and call 4M. This is, we're getting too into the weeds on the first reading item. All right. I'll entertain a motion on 4M. Move it. It's been moved by Commissioner Regalado, seconded by Commissioner Gonzalez. Clerk, please call the roll on 4M. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. Four. Commissioner Emiliano Orbis. Yes. Commissioner Regalado. Yes. Commissioner Steinberg. Commissioner Bastien. Commissioner Bermudez. Yes. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. No. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. Yes. Commissioner Gonzalez. Four. Vice-Chairman McGee. Yes. Chairman Rodriguez. I vote no. Motion passes 10 to 3. All right. Show that item passed. That was our last bifurcated item, right, Madam Mayor? I mean, Madam Attorney? Yes. On the fours? All right. Public hearing items. Madam Attorney, can you, or Mr. Attorney, can you read all the public hearing items at this time? Yes, Mr. Chair. The first one is item 5A as a resolution code designating that portion of Northwest 25th Street between Northwest 117th Avenue and Northwest 112th Avenue as Monsignor Tomas Marin Street and urging the city of Sweetwater to join in this code designation. And 5C as a resolution approving the plot of Traeger North. Those are your public hearing items. All right. I'm going to go ahead and call those individuals to sign up for the public hearing items. Please state the item that you're talking on. State your name and address, and you'll have two minutes to speak. I have Brenda Betancourt. Brenda? Brenda Betancourt now? All right. Brenda Betancourt has left the building. All right. Public hearing is now closed. First, anyone wish to bifurcate any of the public hearing items? Any bifurcations? Seeing none, do I have a motion to pass the public hearing items? Move it. Move it. Move it. Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Bermudez. All in favor, signify by say an aye. All oppose, nay. Show the public hearing items passed. All right. Madam Attorney, can we recess BCC at this time and move into our Naranja Lakes CRA meeting? Yes. Yes. All right. Madam Attorney, go ahead and move into a reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard on the CRA meeting. Do I have, so I have no speaker cards registered to speak, so a reasonable opportunity for the public to be heard is, I have no speaker cards. Is there anyone here to speak on the CRA, Naranja CRA meeting? Is there anyone here to speak in reasonable opportunity for the Naranja CRA meeting? I don't see. So reasonable opportunity is now closed. Madam Attorney, let's take the first item. Mr. Chair, special item number one is a discussion item regarding the Community Redevelopment Agency status update. Yes, and this is my item. I added this item to the agenda, and I just, and I had a discussion with the administration yesterday, and I mentioned to them that I'd be bringing this up. There's some, yes, Commissioner. Okay. I mean, I guess you could call her up on a specific item, if anything. So, look, I'll recognize those colleagues of mine that wish to speak, especially the two, I think two, maybe three, but the two commissioners that have more of an interest. We all have a vested interest, but more of an interest as they represent some of these districts. Here in a minute, I'm sure they both may want to opine. But my concerns are more, we did this, we took over the CRA as the Board of County Commissioners back in February. To date, really until yesterday, no one has reached out to me as the chair of the board. So I had a conversation with the administration. They had been doing, they said to me they had been doing what they were asked to do per the item or the motion that reverted, the item, that reverted the CRA back to this board of county commissioners. But I'm just in awe that as the chair of the board, up until just last week, that you guys saw an item on the agenda, is when you all finally reached out to my team to brief us. It's been three months. I find issue with that. My question to the director, if you can approach the well, is, and I may have a few, but I may hold back just to allow the district commissioners to air out their concerns. My question is, I have concerns with the fact that two different entities have not reached out to me in three months. One is the administration, but we spoke about that, and I won't get back into it today more than what I've just said. The other one is, is there still an executive director, or is that now, has that been taken over automatically by the administration? Sure. Good morning, Mr. Chair. Ray Baker, Director, Office of Management and Budget. To your, one of the questions, there is still an executive director for the former Naranja Lake CRA that is still under contract. The former, what do you mean by the former Naranja Lake? Isn't it the same CRA? It's the Naranja Lake CRA now being governed by this board of county commissioners, previously governed by a citizen. Director. Yeah. Simplify it for me. Naranja Lake CRA. Is there an executive director outside of you, or is there not? Yes. There is currently an executive director under contract. Okay. And I forget her name. I know it's the young lady or lady that has come here before. I don't know if she's in the room today. Is she here today? She is. I don't know if you, I mean, my answer is the same that I just asked the administration. And I won't, I won't, you know, dive deep into it. Just, you know, for three months, I have been the chair of this CRA. And as the executive director, you've not reached out to me. You've not informed me of, I mean, you report up to this body now. You report up to me as the chair of the board. Is there a reason you haven't reached out? I mean, isn't it kind of your job to keep us informed with the day-to-day operations or anything that we need to know? Yeah, absolutely. And I'm speaking to the executive director now of the CRA, because you said there's still an executive director. And I won't, like, this isn't going to be a line of questioning for you. I'm not looking. I just, I want to know, like, is it that you just thought the administration was handling it? Like, what, I mean, whatever it is, I just, I don't understand how, as a new chair of the board, of the CRA board, for three months, no one has reached out to me to inform me as to what is going on with the CRA. Not the director of OMB, not you as the executive director of the CRA. So what is going on? I mean. Mr. Chair, important information? Yes, you may, yes. I don't think we have a chair of the CRA board currently. Well, we have, we have, I chair the meeting, so. No, maybe we can check through the county attorney's office. But the way I understand, when you have a board, you have to determine who the chair and the vice chair of the board will be. You do chair the Miami-Dade County Board of County Commissioners. But when you create a new CRA leadership, you have to select the board. I understand, Commissioner, but no one has reached out to me to even put anything on the agenda for the CRA in three months. And I don't have any CRAs in my district. You all are more familiar with CRAs. But the folks that have reached out to me regarding CRAs, in fact, some from this very CRA, they've had pending applications that they've been acquiring grants for. I mean, who is the administration handling this? The administration and or the executive director cannot go silent. I don't know who they've reached out to. To your point, if I'm not the official chair of the CRA, then have they reached out to any other commissioner? Have they reached out to, has any commissioner here been reached out to by the CRA? Or is the administration handling the day-to-day stuff? Is, we need clarity. It's been three months. Like, what's, what is happening in the CRA? And you could shed some light on that, Madam Executive Director. Sure. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I actually reached out to the attorney's office immediately after the meeting and asked for a meeting to discuss what the, what the direction was. I personally also was not clear on what the intent was. There was language that spoke to the county administration. So I have been secondary and assisting the OMB's office, maintaining the day-to-day operations and working in second, in second position. So, and to your point, I, I, I was also told that there was a request to do a report and that things were essentially on a standstill until that was done. So I understand your concerns. I respect what you're saying, and I, too, have been in a bit of a state of confusion in terms of what was appropriate at this point. So I guess my question to you, and thank you for that clarification, which is, is even more concerning that, that you've been in communication with both the attorneys and the administration and, and they've not communicated with me. My, my, my question for you is, is there anything outside of what's on this agenda, uh, which again, as, uh, whether I'm the chair or not, I set the agenda, uh, is there anything on this agenda that you want to see on there that we, that, that, that needs to happen in the CRA that's been pending? Or is that stuff that you've been able to handle administratively? Like what's, what's happened in the last three months? And we don't need like a 30 minute report right now, but just, and we did receive a report, but that's a different type of report that we got from the administration. Uh, we, I don't know that the report from the administration, I read it thoroughly, uh, speaks to a lot of the pending items, unless that's all that's happening, right? I know that there was some properties on there that we're trying to be disposed of, uh, and other things. I don't know if that's all that's going on, or if, again, if we have pending applications, like what, what is, is there anything that we need to take action while we're convened in this meeting, uh, to, to the extent that we have to? Thank you, chairman. No, I don't think that there's anything that is, um, that requires immediate attention. Um, everything that is ongoing have, action has already been taken permitting the, um, the, the operation to continue. So at this time, there's nothing pending unless there should be something that comes of, of this meeting today. But by way of what's already been, um, what's, by way of what's already been addressed by the prior board, we're good. All right. Thank you. Thank you for clarifying that. Appreciate it. Director, I have other questions and I'm going to probably still ask them, but I want to hear from my colleagues and see what, you know, what they may have. Uh, but, uh, again, uh, you know, to, to Hardiman's point, though, whether there's a chair of the CRA board or not at this time, like, I, I think we all need communication. Uh, and certainly as the person that, again, places items on the agenda, I, I think you all should continue communicating with, with me on that. So, uh, again, I'll, I'll reserve to, to call you back up. Commissioner Hardiman. Thank you. I don't know if you all have done this research speaking to the county attorney's office, but I think this is something that we have to be vocal about because the line of demarcation is important. When it comes to the community redevelopment agency and its leadership versus the Miami Dade County board of county commissioners, for instance, there'll be a, there will be times when we act as the Miami Dade County board of county commissioners. And then at times when we act as the CRA board, not all, not all of our interests are aligned many times they're actually misaligned, which is why you have sometimes fights between, uh, CRAs and county commissions. I'm, I'm bringing this up because it's important that we need to understand who actually sets the agenda for the redevelopment agency, because I've heard a couple of times on the record, although the chair has acquiesced that he may not be sure, but he said he sets the agenda, but this agenda, I would think will be set by the chair of the CRA, which may or may not be the chairman of Miami Dade County board of county commissioners. So in fact, when I think about a chairman of a CRA, I will look to the district commissioners in this sense, there's more than one, um, or the, the, the district commission who has the greatest representation. However, we decided to be to, to, to, to, to be the one pushing an agenda, all of us have an opportunity to have items to be heard on a CRA agenda because we sit as the board, but certainly the leadership usually is led by someone who is more aligned with what's happening in that particular area. And then another thing I'll say, um, once you give us some of your feedback, because I don't know if you are, I've done this research yet, or we've in fact set that sort of criteria, but it's very difficult. It's very difficult to have a CRA that is created to eliminate slum and blight where many times, especially if it deals with residents, unlike those who are created just for commercial purposes, it's very difficult to have the voice of the people heard when you're so far away from what the CRA is. And so we took on this task now, and I would dare to say that it's probably more appropriate to have the CRA meetings. And I think it changes your attitude and tone about what it is to lead the CRA, but we should be having that CRA meeting in Naranja. Now, whoever the chairman is can decide wherever he or she likes to have their meetings. But I will, I will, I will, I will tell you that in my time serving as chairman of CRAs, only my very first, which this is the very first, so I'll say that was held in city hall, even though city hall was still, you know, one bus away from, from where, um, from where the CRA district was, it didn't matter. Once we had that initial meeting, we didn't have every subsequent meeting in the CRA one time, we even had it on the streets to ensure that the people understood what we're trying to do in certain areas. And so, uh, it's important that we really, really start to think about this thing as what it is, which is an opportunity to change a particular area and the people who are most affected many times will not be able to make it to this place in the middle of the day on the weekend. Um, we tend, we would tend to have those meetings, for instance, after five in the CRA area. And so it gave residents an opportunity to be heard and an opportunity for everyone to really and truly be a part in the, in the, in the area that they were trying to affect the most. Thank you. Thank you, commissioner. Commissioner Bermudez, you recognize. I'll, I'll, I'll be brief, but, um, I voted no on this precisely because of, and I agree with commissioner Hardiman in the sense that we, the commissioner of the district, in this case, there's two commissioners, really should be the ones that, uh, I believe know what's going on in their districts. I'm not a big supporter of CRAs, as you've heard me say before. And I think our role should be that of oversight to set the rules. So the money is spent correctly and the right way and not spending correctly. Having said that, I agree with commissioner Hardiman that these CRAs are, you should be, and are for the benefit of the people in that district. And I think the commissioners of those districts, which is what districts, which is why I did not vote for this the first time for us to take it over. But I would like some clarity because if this is going to be the case, then we need to know what our role is going to be. So from the county attorney's office, I think for many reasons, uh, we all need some clarity on how this is going to occur. Uh, you know, I'm not, uh, you know, against all CRAs, but I, I don't necessarily, you know, I've said my piece on what I think should happen with them as far as our role is concerned. Okay. And I see my colleague who I'm not for city CRAs either. So just so, but I know there's one and, and, and rightly so probably in Miami gardens. But having said that, uh, I do think we need to all understand what the rules are going to be with this role. That is this the first, and I don't even know if this is the first time this body has taken the role of being the CRA, uh, board. Uh, I think it is right. Maybe I'm mistaken, but if that's the case, then just explain to all of us what the rules are going to be. So we understand what we got to do. Commissioner Gilbert, you recognize. Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So just so we're clear today, we're going to elect the chairman. What, what, what, because we can, it's not on the agenda, but we certainly, I certainly don't want to be the chairman. Well, no, so, but, but, but Hardiman's, Hardiman's point is, is well taken. We actually do have to formally put somebody in as the chair of the CRA so that they can actually. So, yeah, it, it, it, it has to be, there has to be someone. It doesn't necessarily automatically. And, and quite frankly, we should have thought about these things when we actually, we probably should have planned this out just, just a, just a bit better. Um, um, and we need to know, um, the executive director, she is still there in the contract with the CRA is my understanding. And so how that workflow works with the county attorney and the office of budget, like management, all of those things need to be determined by the CRA board, which is now us. Um, so this just seems like maybe we shouldn't do this in the middle of our county commission meeting sometime though. Like, I, I don't know that I want to do, do this like, like this again. Commissioner Regalada. Thank you. Um, I, I think once the CRA was dissolved, we should have had a meeting to name the chair and the vice chair and what the transition process would be. I think that's why we find ourselves in this situation. Um, I have a ton of questions like until when is the executive director's, um, contract, like how, how does this, how is the transition going to work? Because we never fleshed out the transition. Um, I'm with JC. I wasn't for this, uh, but here we find ourselves, right? So now we have to figure it out. Um, I, I do think that Hardeman brings up a very good point about the location and the time. Um, you know, and, and that's why this is a precedent that we should be very careful about. I, I don't think these types of meetings should happen at this time and definitely not here at a minimum. If we're, if we're not going to have it in Naranja, you know, maybe we can talk to our attorneys about some sort of virtual option so that people could at least comment virtually. There's, you got to figure something out because how is someone, someone, we're going to ask someone to miss work, to be here, uh, who knows at what time to deal with this CRA. Um, so I think a, we need to establish like what the transition parameters are and what that looks like. Um, and then we need to set the time and notice it and, um, they, we have to do outreach. We have to tell people where we're going to meet, how we're going to meet, what are the pending issues? There's, there's a lot to unpack here in terms of this, this transition and we're setting a precedent. So I think we have to be very thoughtful in how we do that and how we provide this service. And we do need some direction. I think there is a direct conflict, um, like, uh, commissioner Hardeman said between, um, us as county commissioners and us as members of the CRA. And that is something that we have to navigate very carefully. Um, so I think we also have to have, uh, a conversation about that and how we're going to deal with it moving forward. Um, look, I, I, I'll recognize, you know, in a second and, and commissioner, again, I have no desire to be the chair of the CRA. Uh, but I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to say two things that I disagree with because we, we, we, we have to be, we have to be like realistic and honest is there. There's one thing that's not a lie. It's been, it's been debated here publicly on the microphone is the two district commissioners that have the CRA don't see eye to eye on this matter. On other matters they do, but when it comes to the CRA, they've disagreed more often than not. So to imply in theory that it, that should be it, but to imply that in this case, one of them should be the chair, I think is just putting us back to where we were to begin with. Uh, but I mean, whatever you all want to do, I just don't want to be the chair, but set, but, but, but secondly is I, I don't subscribe to the fact of doing the meetings in Naranja, uh, because we don't have that same thought process for the other 2.8 million residents of Miami Dade County for our meetings. So we, we should start our BCC meetings at five. We should rotate our meetings, have them in West Kendall sometimes in Miami gardens, others. We should just start having our meetings throughout different areas of the County. So different folks have opportunity. So I, I, it, it all sounds right, but it's, it's, it's not, it's not comparable. It's, it's, it's not the right thing in this case. Uh, commissioner Conegans, then Bastien. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to my colleagues. Um, as we figure out how best to navigate, um, our very first, uh, CRA meeting. And I thank, uh, our colleagues for reading over the agenda and seeing the items. I think I've made my intention clear when I brought this motion. It's simply to move and expedite, um, the, you know, the elimination of the settlement blight in the area. And I think you can see from the agenda items. And I believe my colleague from district nine has some motions, um, that I agree with. Uh, and so I, I look forward to continuing to working with my, my colleague from district nine and everyone else on the Naranjo Lake CRA. Regarding the transition, our administration released, uh, I don't know, eight page back in front report on May 1st, um, that outlines pretty comprehensively the full status of the Naranjo Lake CRA. All pending projects, all contracts, when they start, when they expire, the financial situation of the Naranjo Lake CRA. So, um, if you haven't had a chance to review that memo, uh, please do. Regarding the leadership structure, Terrence, you can keep me honest. But it's my understanding that it's entirely elective and upon us. If we want to keep the leadership structure that we currently have as the Board of County Commissioners, we can travel under that lane. If we want to elect a new leadership structure, we can travel under that lane. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay. So, I, I think it would be prudent for us to make a decision on leadership of the Naranjo Lake CRA. Um, I think it's easier. The vice chairman of our board is the district nine commissioner. He's the vice chair of the board. I, I don't know if anybody has a preference here. I, I, I think it's easier to keep the leadership structure exactly the way that it is under our current Board of County Commissioners just for continuity of service. But if everyone else has a different opinion, I'm okay with that. I have no desire of serving as the chair. I don't know if Commissioner Gilbert wants to be the chair of the CRA. I just don't want us to get bogged down in that. Um, because I do think that the agenda items that are before us and the motions that I have from my colleague from district nine are great motions that I'd like for us to focus on as opposed to who the chair is and who is the vice chair. I think that's inconsequential. I think, I mean, I would like to hear from my colleagues. I don't know how the district nine commissioner feels about it, but again, I think it makes sense for continuity as we have these CRA meetings that are going to be in the middle of our board of county commissioner meetings that the leadership structure stay exactly the same. And I don't think it's either, uh, a con, uh, a coincidence that the only items that are on the CRA agenda are the ones that are sponsored by the district eight and district nine commissioner, which I think it's going to continue being. So our voices are going to be reflective on these agendas. So, um, that would be my motion at the appropriate time, but I'm happy to hear from my colleagues. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Commissioner Bastien, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I think the question we need to, um, think about an answer is why are the CRAs in existence in the first place? Why? They exist because there are areas in Miami-Dade County that have either been neglected, either been disinvested, either, either been under-resourced to the point that they are blighted. If, if, if I, if I talking about district two, they are blighted. The areas are dirty with encampments, all kinds of encampments, crime. That is why the CRAs exist in the, it exists in the first place. And there is a community structure, and I have five different areas in my district, because there is no way for you to fix it unless the residents partake in that change. Who knows best what's going on in their neighborhoods? Who? They are the people who live there days in and days out. They are the people who come to my district and, commissioner, we need a bump on these streets. Commissioner, people fly in a, in a 20, 25 miles, uh, school zone. Commissioner, I have trucks in my district where people are living, dumpings in my neighborhoods. Who knows best how to fix this? So, um, that's why I voted against this, um, because I realized that there could have been a way, and then my suggestion was, if the two commissioners had, had issues with each other, then divide it, divide it. But now, we are in a predicament where we're going to create a third structure, and then meetings will be held during the day, and Commissioner Regalado, I think, I don't think virtual meetings would work with, for a lot of folks, Commissioner Regalado. I don't think so. I think, Mr. Chair, we, we, whatever the process we create, it has to be a way where residents can partake and have a say-so in what's going on, and then which, that would entail having the meetings where they live. And since we are talking about District 8 and 9, then these meetings have to be held there, where the people are, where they can come after work. And then even the time matters, guys. Even the time matters. If you do it too early, Mr. Chair, if you do it 4 p.m., a lot of people are at work. A lot of people are at work. So, either we are serious about reducing blight, either we, or we're not. So, so, that's my, that's my, that's my two cents on this. I think we have to be mindful of why the CRAs were created in the first place, Mr. Chair. Thank you. I have a question for the attorneys. How would it work, and is it possible? Like, I don't have a committee like that, but I don't know how to work for a CRA, if there were co-chairs of the CRA, seeing that there's two district commissioners that overlap the CRA. Is it one month, one will chair, the next month, the other chair will chair, which is how the committee happens. Like, what, can there be co-chairs? That's entirely up to the board as to how everyone wants to structure it. The answer is, yeah. There's no prohibition from you having co-chairs, a chair, having your current structure with the BCC structure. There's, the statute is silent on that issue. All right. So, it's a board decision. Hold on, Commissioner, because I'm trying to do round ones, and then I'm going to go back to round twos. Vice Chair. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to everyone who's been paying attention to this. My intention has always been and will always remain the same, is that keeping this within the Naranja Lakes area, it's better for the people, especially down south, who would have to travel at least two hours to get here in the mornings. I can tell you this morning I left home, it was 6.30 a.m., just to ensure that we were here to participate in the early part of our presentations, because I didn't want to get stuck in traffic, even though I have assistance getting here. So, I can only imagine what the great folk of South Dade have to go through in order to get to downtown also. Secondly, look, I'm not quite sure how the agenda worked in this process. Mr. Chairman, the first time I saw the agenda, it already had items there. And I was kind of perplexed because I hadn't gotten a call to notify me that, hey, there's going to be a CRE meeting, are there items you would like for us to prepare to ensure that it makes the agenda? Knowing that, I did reach out to our county attorney, Terrence, who's one of the best in the business, in understanding the code, and I asked him to give me some parameters as to how are we going to set this new, quote-unquote, first impression of taking back a CRE to the board and how are we going to set those parameters? And maybe, Terrence, we can go on the record to find out and make sure we're on the same page. You told me that the BCC rules will be the same as the CRE board rules here? Yes, unless this body, which is the CRA's body, decides to set up separate rules, but currently you're operating under the BCC rules. Thank you. So everything, including the four-day rule, applies as it relates to items that are coming on to the CRA agenda? That is correct. Now, in a normal CRA, the four-day rule situation and other situation as to getting things onto the agenda, they don't apply. Is that accurate to say? It would be up to each CRA to determine what its rules of procedures would be. Right. So hearing lies the issue, Mr. Chairman, and it's not a bad issue. Actually, it's a work in progress, right? We don't know when the next meeting is going to be. I don't know how to prepare my items for that particular meeting. But what I can tell you is I am okay with co-chairing this CRA where we switch out every other month to ensure continuity and also to make sure that the slum and blight issues that we face are dealt with appropriately. And lastly, Mr. Chairman, I can just also say this. There are some items that are still outstanding that the community has actually voiced its opinion for. And at the appropriate time, I know the items are on the agenda that was placed on by District 8. I did file some motions once I found out about the items that were on to help enhance those items. So I'm simply saying at this moment, I just need to know when we're going to have our next meeting so I can properly prepare to have items on the agenda. I need to know the full process and the parameters so we know exactly what to do and what not to do. Also, we need to know exactly, you know, what are we going to do with some of the outstanding issues, Mr. Chairman, that are not going to come before the CRA board but need to come before the BCC board, such as items dealing with disposition, bond, and extension, so that we can appropriately deal with those issues. So those are the only concerns I have. Thank you, Vice Chair, and thank you for sharing my same sentiment as to, I was just as surprised as you were when I got an item to put this on, and no one had spoken to me about this in three months, hence why I started the CRA meeting by saying that. But, you know, of course, as district commissioners or any member of this body could have, of course, approached the lawyers, I think they should have probably approached us with what next steps were and the administration as well. But, you know, the process is today, and it could be changed, is just the same as any other item that you all want to submit. You just submit what you want on the agenda. I guess we decide when the meetings are. This body decides when the meetings are. And I know you said, like, you know, every other month, and you're good with that. I don't even think you have to have a meeting every other month, right? Is there a rule to that? Or is it, like, whenever, you know, it could be every other meeting, but do you have to have a meeting every month? I mean, whoever knows the legal answer. Yeah, it's a legal question. That is entirely up to the board. So the board kind of approves, like, the agenda. I mean, you could do it every month, I suppose. But, no, you're right. You're right. I was just as surprised as you seem. So I'm glad we share that because I wish somebody would have, you know, kind of approached me much earlier. But, all right. So I've gone through first rounds, right? And then I have Commissioner Hardiman and Gilbert. You know, for those of you who've never sat on a board that is a CRA board, not even describing chairing one, but if you've never sat on one, you misunderstand the nuances that occur when it comes to those boards. And so when Commissioner Bastien and I talk about what representation looks like and why we go to where they are versus sitting as a county commission, having meetings in county hall, just the fact that that's the second hat, right? That's the difference. So, for instance, yes, it makes no sense for us to have county commission meetings in other places because the county is so vast. And everything we do on a county board affects different areas within modern-day county. And so we have one central place that we meet. But I will tell you, there is not going to be any issue that you do in the Narendra CRA area that's going to affect Doral. Not one thing that you're going to be doing on a board is going to affect other areas like Liberty City or the Upper East Side or whatever your furthest north city, northern city it may be, even Miami Gardens, right? It's just not going to affect those areas. And so it's important that you understand that when we talk about the level of detail and the level of attention you have to have to those particular areas, you must show up to those spaces. It's not, it really is bad, bad policy for you to even be having those meetings. And I'll tell you this, right now, the Miami CRA, Southeast Overtime Parkway CRA meets at Miami City Hall. And it's been doing that ever since I left. And that's bad policy. And guess what happens during that time? The level of activity decreases. The people who participate in the meetings decrease. People don't show up. And so what happens is you then get the backlash of it. If this board, the CRA new board, wants the backlash of what happens in places like Narendra, you are setting yourself for that to happen. And so this is why, you know, when we describe these things, we will say you have a CRA board. And not everybody shows up to the meetings because I'll be frank with you all. Mr. Chairman, if you don't support CRAs, don't come to my meeting. Commissioner Bermudez, if you don't support CRAs, don't come to my meeting. I only want commissioners who will come into CRA board meetings who support the mission of CRAs, particularly that CRA. Because if you've never been berated by a constituency that's suffering through homelessness, that's suffering through slum and blight, that's suffering through lack of affordable housing, that's suffering in ways that you cannot imagine. And the two minutes that they have here before this board, with all these different people, with committees and such, you don't understand it. And so what the CRAs do, in a very small way, is it literally puts you in the shoes of those commissioners who have a lot more to do than vote yes or no on certain issues. This is not something to toy with. I think if we're going to be serious, we've now become the board of this CRA. We have to seriously decide what the leadership looks like, how you want to do it. But I'm telling you, If you think you're going to be able to govern Narangela's CRA from this Crystal Palace, you're mistaken. It's not going to work. We must, in just a matter of good policy, find our ways to that area. We have to do it at a different time. This is the way that you service the needs of a very small, particular group of people where this thing was created to actually cause change for. I mean, many of us, most of us, have never even set foot, meaning put your actual shoe on the ground in the Narangela's CRA. I remember the first time that I had an opportunity to visit Narangela. And I called my fellow commissioner and told him, I said, brother, I thought that when I picked up Overtown, it was bad. This is another level. People really need help. And you don't know what that feels like until you go to that space. And so it is a disruption of our time, yes. And it makes everything much more difficult, yes. But it is just the truth. This board, the Narangela's CRA board, if it meets in Narangela, it probably will get seven, eight, nine members present. And that's all you need to do good in a place like Narangela. We don't need everybody's participation. We just need those that truly care enough about areas that have this tremendous need to participate and make things happen. This is not the Miami-Dade County Board of County Commissioners. And I won't pretend that it is. If we're going to participate as a CRA board, then put your board hat on. This is a different ball game. We don't care about your politics when it comes to taxes going up and taxes going down. This is about making change in an area. And sometimes it's going to cost us money. And we're going to spend a lot of it. And whenever the CRA generates, that's what we're going to spend. And we're going to cause the CRA to generate more money. But if this is about purpose-driven work, and in purpose-driven work, you throw all your politics to the side to make it happen for this community. And so if you're not about that, don't come to the meetings. We don't care to hear what you have to say. Thank you. Yes, Commissioner Gilbert, then Cohen Higgins. Commissioner Hartman, respectfully, though, man, as a member of the board, I decide if I go to the meetings, like not just respectfully. You're not the only one that knows about this stuff. I realize that I've never served on a CRA. But if you don't care, brother, if you don't care. I've never, I wasn't the one that said I don't care. I didn't say I didn't care. Someone else said they didn't care about CRA. I didn't say that. I didn't say you didn't care. I said if you don't care, don't go up, show up. But you called out Bermudez in the chair, and it's just not true, man. It's just not true. So, like, don't say things that you know aren't true. I mean, we're all elected officials. But don't argue with me. We're not elected by the people. We argue with the work. We have different constituents. Not in the CRA board. We don't. No, no, but we have different constituency in general as politicians, as elected officials. But it's not about bringing the politics to the CRA board. It's not that you don't care about me. You may not care about the politics. I don't care about the politics either. But I care about my principles. I'm still going to vote my principles and my values. It's not about politics for me. It is for many others on this board. It ain't for me. I'll go right to you, Bermudez. I got Gilbert, Cohen-Higgins, and then Bermudez. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just by way of clarification, I think when Commissioner Hardeman called out names, he wasn't specifying people. He was giving examples of people who, if they don't want to come, they shouldn't come. But I don't think he was actually talking to you directly, saying you didn't care. He just said their names. So he could very easily set Gilbert's name. And I take no offense to it. I understand the passion surrounding this issue. Just to, you know, bring it down a little, I'd like us to consider some, a couple of motions. The first one is I want to, well, let me just say to the Vice Chairman, you asked a question about the four-day rule, and the county attorney answered it. I think they're wrong. I don't think that the actual default is naturally the County Commission's rules of procedure. I think that that is, that's the arrogance of a county. I think it's the arrogance of a county. We offer things from our perspective, and I appreciate that. But when you're a new entity that's essentially created by the board, but sanctioned by Florida statute, I think you get to decide what your rules are and what your bylaws are. And it will be incumbent on us to adopt bylaws for CRA that we sit as the board of. And so I think that, I think that while that is one perspective that it automatically defaults to the County Commission rules, I do not believe that there to be a four-day rule in effect for any item before this board right now as we sit as the Nerangelaic CRA board. And so I would disagree with that. There are certain things that we probably need to take care of. First, I tend to agree with Commissioner Bastien. And let me say, I voted for this item, and I still support this item. But Commissioner Bastien and Commissioner Hardiman's points are well taken. We don't sit as county commissioners. As county commissioners, we think about the whole. As Nerangelaic CRA board members, we just think about them. That's it. These meetings need to be in Nerangelaic. And they need to be at a time when they, the residents of the area, the businesses in the area, can attend. That's just something, that's a sacrifice we all have to take and make because I voted for this. And so for me to say now that I don't want to go to Nerangelaic. No, I'm driving through Nerangelaic. That is what it is. I also don't think it takes necessarily 13 of us to do this every time. So one of the motions I'd like us to entertain is changing the quorum number to five. Change the quorum number to five. Because I would hate for us to have a quorum number of seven, and we stop doing business at some point because people don't actually come to Nerangelaic for the meetings. Change the quorum number to five. I think that would probably be most appropriate because I think that we can always get five of us to actually show up whenever the meeting is. I also think that probably the chair's suggestion of every other week, I mean every other month, is probably appropriate. I don't think we need to meet every month on this. But a quorum of five every other month in Nerangelaic, whatever facilities we can go with down there. I mean, staff will have to figure that out, or the executive director, wherever they were meeting. We can meet where they were meeting. Also, on the item of chairman, you know, we're in this particular predicament because the commissioners who share this area have a division in vision with regard to this. I don't think either one of them should be chairperson. I would suggest, you know, Commissioner Hardiman is going to be upset at me. I can already feel it. But I would suggest, you know, making Commissioner Hardiman the chairperson of the Nerangelaic CRA. He's done a lot of work with CRA, and he feels it more passionately than a lot of folks do. And so, and he's done a good job with CRAs developing areas like Overtown. Like what we see happening in this area was, in large part, his vision through the, as implemented through the CRA. So, all of the redevelopment, all the economic development that you see is stuff that his imagination created us when he was steering those CRAs. And so, I think that he'd be good to do that. And, you know, I think that at some point, Mr. Chairman, once we have a chairperson, we need to have the attorneys and that chairperson craft and bring us back some bylaws and rules of procedure. Until now, I think the default should generally be whatever Robert's rules of procedure are, not necessarily purely the county or whatever Robert's rules are. That's what Robert's rules are. Unless, because every new board that I've had, they always defaulted to Robert's rules. Yeah. Yeah. So, default to Robert's rules until we get our rules of procedure. And then, at that first meeting, we adopt those things and we just move on. Those would be my ideas, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. I'm going to do a few more of you guys, but I'm going to start entertaining motions soon so that we can actually get some work done. I have the vice chair for a response. And then, I had said actually Bermudis after, but I'm skipping Bermudis because the vice chair wants to speak specifically to. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And, look, Commissioner Hardeman, hands down, is, in my opinion, one of the greatest CRA experts on this dais, if not the expert of the dais on the CRAs. But I cannot, in good faith, sit here and support a motion to put a district commissioner in a CRA where it has two commissioners. I, that's like, that's like asking me to set aside everything I know and bring in someone else to understand and appreciate and to push forward the great folk in the Arantia area. Right? This is why I said it before, and I was against removing the board of the CRA. My proposal was simply to say, let's allow the two commissioners to join a community board and go that route. That would actually contain the issues that were created by slum and blight in that area. Lastly, let me just say this, I think the quorum count should be about five. But, again, the easiest thing for us to do right now is to have the Naranja Lake CRA reinstituted where it is controlled by community members chosen by the two commissioners. And the two commissioners from the district actually sit on that board. I do believe there's a number that the FRA requires as a threshold for the amount of folk that actually sit on the board. And I think we've heard it before here this morning that a quorum, I believe, the number is somewhere, Terrence, is it seven to nine or something that can be on the board? Is that the number or is it? Sorry about that. So sorry. Sorry, I'm just getting the statute. Terrence, are we waiting on a response from Terrence? Are you talking about a citizen board, the quorum for a citizen board? Yeah, the FRA gave us some direction on how many members should be on the board under 163. How many members? The total number of members for a citizen board is nine. Nine members. And pursuant to 163.356, quorum is made up of the majority of the members of that agency. For purposes of this board, which operates under a different statute, the quorum, you can decide what the quorum would be because obviously there's more than nine members on this board. So I guess my motion now is, Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, I think so that we can take this issue off the hands of our commissioners and asking them to be part of what's happening in the Rancho Lakes, I think maybe we should entertain reinstituting the community board. We choose the members and the two of us sit on that board as two commissioners on that board. So that's the motion I'll make at the appropriate time and just wanted to see if that's something you would entertain because otherwise we're going to be back here. This is an issue of first impression. I do know there are some ramifications to each decision we make. And, again, I look to Terrence for guidance as it relates to the CRA. So if he tells me it's A, it's A, and I have to be abound by that particular position. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, I appreciate all of the comments of my colleagues. And I do want to start with Commissioner Hardiman and your passion for CRAs is certainly recognizable and admirable. But I also think that you, I think you should know that when this item passed, I received a ton of comments from residents thanking me for removing the CRA from the previous leadership because nothing had been done in so long. So while I value your experience, I'm sharing with you my experience. And it is also not lost on me that we've spent a considerable amount of time dealing with squarely the politics of the CRA and have done zero business for the people, i.e. addressing the items on the agenda, that will actually eliminate slum and blight. So the focus for me is very clear, as illustrated by all of the comments that are being made. I have, I did not think that we would spend so much time on who the leadership is of the Naranja Lakes CRA. I also think that it's inherently contradictory to suggest that the meetings should be in Naranja Lakes because that's where the people are and we need to bring it closer to the people and simultaneously that the chair of that board should be a commissioner that represents the opposite end of the county. That's inherently contradictory and simply doesn't make sense. And so I think that considering the amount of comments and feedback on this item, I do think that the district commissioner from District 9 and I should potentially serve as co-chairs of this board where we alternate. I think that that's a suggestion that our chairman made. I'm happy to move forward in that direction. And then clearly, the District 9 commissioner and I need to sunshine, organize calendars, organize protocols, bring it back to the board in a unified fashion so that we can eliminate this back and forth. And so much very, very spirited input from commissioners that have very different CRA experiences from very different parts of our county. So as far as moving forward, I think it makes sense for us to decide who the chair or co-chair is, deal with the items on the agenda, and then if the District 9 commissioner agrees, we can have a sunshine meeting and bring back a comprehensive kind of protocol and plan at our next BCC and our CRA meeting where all of these issues are vetted and addressed. That's actually a question directly to our vice chairman if he agrees with that sort of a moving forward. Let me begin by saying this, and thank you very much, Commissioner Cornhiggins. When the Naranja Lake CRA board was dismantled, I received countless, countless, countless calls, stop ditches in the stores saying, why did you do that? Why did they do that? So yes, on one hand, you may have gotten calls, and yes, on the other hand, I've gotten calls. But this goes exactly to show what the importance of the CRA board and why it was so important to keep it in the community. So I'm okay with having the sunshine. I'm okay with doing all of that, but at the same time, I'm not okay with pushing this out further. We need to have a date and time actually set today for the next agenda meeting so that we know exactly what we're doing, how we're doing, so at least we can get folk to participate. And lastly, I don't know how we get over this issue. These meetings need to be held in Naranja. It's almost as if it's non-negotiable. You cannot negotiate the participation of the people who are already living in a slum and black community. That says it all. They are living in a slum and black community. So now you're going to add an additional burden for them to get to this particular meeting? It just doesn't make any sense. So, again, I don't mind having the sunshine, right? I do mind having this meeting in the area that's being impacted. And I do mind having the folk who are impacted to have a say-so into what the agenda looks like and what they want to see for that community. All right. You're done for right now? All right. I got Gonzales for the first bite at the apple. So I've been listening attentively to the entire discussion, and I agree with a lot of the sentiment from Commissioner Gilbert. I concur a lot of the statements that were made by Commissioner Hardiman. I've actually been to Naranja. I used to live, like the first apartment I ever had was in the Silver Palms area, and I love Naranja. It does need a lot of help, and something that Commissioner Hardiman said really touched me, and that's that I think everybody up here cares about Naranja. I think every single commissioner up here wants to make sure that Naranja has everything that they need in order to elevate. But I do think that it would be in Naranja's best interest and in Miami-Dade County's best interest for folks that live there or live close to there to be part of the decision-making process for a CRA, because that is the function of the CRA. With that being said, I actually like Commissioner Gilbert's proposal to have Commissioner Hardiman on the CRA, because I don't want to put more on your play, brother, but I don't think anybody else up here has the expertise and the track record with CRAs. So I would propose, after hearing the commissioner from District 8 and the commissioner from District 9 speaking, I would propose, and I'm happy to make a motion. Actually, I'd like for one of them to make the motion, but I would propose that they both co-chair. I believe the county attorney's office said that you need a minimum of nine members if it's a public member board. Is that correct? The nine membership requirement applies to the citizen board. There's a different composition for one that's governed by the governing body. So in this case, each of you are members already of the CRA by your own action. So, Terrence, my question is, if we were to make it a citizen board that is led and co-chaired by two commissioners, do they have to have nine members, sir? Well, first of all, this body, as the CRA, does not have the authority to create another CRA. Only the Board of County Commission, as the governing body, can do that by ordinance if it was to decide to go back and create a citizen board. To answer your question, pursuant to the interlocal agreements that we have with the CRA, and there's an interlocal with this particular CRA, the representatives of the governing body can serve as a representative on the agency's board without triggering a constitutional violation. Got it. So, you could have a representative, and there could be more than one representative of the taxing authority that could serve on a citizen board. Or in the alternative, you'd have to create an ordinance. That's under both sections of the statute that apply to a citizen board or one that's governed by a governing body. As long as you have an interlocal agreement where a taxing authority representative can sit, it allows for a taxing authority representative to sit, then you can have a member of your governing body, I'm talking about the BCC's governing body, to sit on that CRA. In this case, you already are members of the governing body by your action of creating the CRA under 163.357, which is the governing body that is acting today. Got it. So, I would propose that vis-a-vis an ordinance between the district commissioner of District 9 and District 8, I would propose that perhaps the best course of action would be for both of you folks to co-chair that CRA, and both of you folks to identify the citizen membership there. I would propose that if you have seven members, it would be perhaps three picked by District 8, three picked by District 9, that's six members, plus you two, seven, and eight. I would respectfully propose that perhaps Commissioner Hardiman could be the ninth, and then you'd have, then you'd have, I'm sorry, brother, I apologize, but then you would have three, three from, three from Commissioner, three from Commissioner McGee, three from Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, both of you as co-chair, and the voice of wisdom also on the board. That's what I would propose. Commissioner Bermudez, you're recognized. First of all, let me just say that, you know, we don't operate under, I agree with, by the way, Commissioner Gilbert, but the county rules are not Robert's Rules of Order, it's just to be clear. It's that other rule from Kentucky, just to be clear. But we'll leave it at that, because everybody thinks it's Robert's Rules, and nobody realizes that, so I'm just telling you guys so you realize it. But anyways, the bottom line is, and again, I want to be clear on what I said, and I'm kind of, you know, based on what, I was on Commissioner Hardiman's side, because he made 90% sense, except he misquoted me, he misquoted me, and I didn't say, I said that this body, I believe, has to look at the CRAs. That was our responsibility. I've made my comments before on the transparency, et cetera, any CRA, by the way. I did not vote for this, precisely because of what's happening now. Sorry, I'm not going to rub it in. But this is why I knew that this was going to happen, okay? But I will attend, and I do believe, if there's going to be a CRA, it should be in Naranja, and I will be there. And it's not a matter of politics or purpose, because it should be only purpose, not politics for any of us. I ran for purpose, not for politics. There's a lot of better things I could be doing with my life than debating CRAs in the midday, on Tuesday, on May 5th, Cinco de Mayo, for those of you who appreciate it, than sitting here. When I philosophically felt that we should play our role with the CRAs, but I also agreed with Commissioner Hardiman in the fact that those people from the district, the commissioners from those districts, know their commissioners best. Having said that, I believe that wherever there is slum in Blighton-Date County, it doesn't matter if it's in one of the five cities I represent, or the unincorporated part, or in any of your areas, we all have purpose and a responsibility to be concerned about that. Because slum and blight anywhere in Dade County impacts the quality of life for everyone in Dade County. And anybody that thinks that that's not the case, you are sadly mistaken. So I don't like being... So now, guess what? I'd like it to be in Naranja, and I have no problem. And I've been in Naranja many times. I'll be happy to go. So if that's... You know, the two commissioners of the district, I think, have good intents. And that's why I voted to... I didn't vote for it. But it's my purpose, and my purpose is to care about everybody in Dade County, not just the people in my district. Because it impacts me, it impacts everybody in Dade County. And what happens in Aventura impacts Florida City. And what happens in Florida City impacts Aventura. So I want to be clear. My purpose is an elected official. I will fulfill my role, as Commissioner Gilbert said. And if this is the will of this body, that that is our role, I will do it. And I have no problem. And now, my purpose, I will be there. And I'll be there in person. And I will drive to Naranja. That's not that big an issue. I've been there many times. It doesn't bother me. I think it should be there, because those are the people that are impacted. But I think I also should have a say, there's no reason that I should not have a say on anything that impacts anything in Miami-Dade County, nor should there be any reason that all of you shouldn't have an opinion on something that impacts all of Miami-Dade County in my district. So I just want to be clear, you know, there's a difference between. But the last thing I'll say is, I would like from the attorneys to please give us all, explain to us what our roles are when we deal with created CRAs that exist, and we still come up here and we have to vote on it, and we pass some rules reference those CRAs, which is what I was talking about. Because transparency, it doesn't matter whether it's in Aventura, doesn't matter whether it's in Florida City. Transparency should exist across the board. So what I would like is to have those rules. Now, we're sitting now, this moment, and correct me if I'm wrong, we're sitting as the CRA, the Naranja Lake CRA. That's it, right? So, you know, I'll be there. I don't have a problem. I agree with Commissioner Gilbert. Once you create something, then we have to fill our role. That simple as that. And again, you know, I take every vote based on purpose, not on politics. Thank you, Commissioner Bermudez. All right, so for future speakers, I'm going to recognize now, Regalado, just we don't have to rehash that if it could be done in Naranja. We all agree that, and by the way, guys, we all have access to sergeants. So it's not like we're driving our behinds there. We all got access to sergeants. We can get there. That's not need to be discussed. It could be done in Naranja. Kumbaya. Commissioner Regalado. Thank you. So I appreciate the entire discussion about, like, unwinding the item, but I feel like we're so past that. I mean, we are currently sitting here as the CRA. So the idea of, like, unwinding it, I think that that ship has sailed, and we need to figure out what we're going to do at the moment. Since we are sitting as the CRA, I think we need to deal with the quorum issue, and I think Commissioner Gilbert is right. We need to just vote on that and deal with the quorum issue. I don't know if where we're going to be meeting we have the ability for people to appear virtually or if it's, like, recorded because there are going to be questions about commissioners that can't make it, and if they can appear virtually, maybe they can't vote. Those are all decisions that we get to make as a CRA, right? So there's all that that I think we need to decide. As to the co-chair situation, I think we're in this situation because of the issue. So at least to begin, I agree with Commissioner Gilbert to have Keon lead it, and then we'll figure it out because, A, the whole purpose of having a chair is to have accountability, and if you keep changing the chairs, then you don't have accountability because people – it was me, it was you, it was me, it was you, and I think what we need is some – just to set this thing up and get this thing moving and figure out what is the path forward because we got into this position because people have a disagreement, and that disagreement isn't going to disappear from one day to another. Maybe through a series of meetings of the CRA, we'll pass items, and maybe that disagreement will disappear, and then we can vote again. We can vote on a chair at any point. We can vote on the chair of the county commission at any point. You know, we can deal with that later, but I think Keon is the perfect person to, like, lead this thing into the setup and start dealing with the resolution and the agenda and the outreach, you know, and making sure that the first ever Miami-Dade County Commission-led CRA is not a disaster because, again, we broke the rules. I still don't agree with it the way that we did it, but here we are, and I think we just need to make sure that the precedent that we're establishing is one that is legally viable and is in the best interest of Naranja. Like Commissioner Bermudez, I will be there. I commit to be one of the five. I will physically be there. So I think we just need to decide on a path forward right now, start with the quorum and with the chair of that. So I'm happy to support Commissioner Gilbert's motion. Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized and for a potential motion as well. Mr. Chairman, I would move that we make the quorum for the Naranja Lake CRA, five members of the Board of County Commissioners. Additionally, as part of this motion, I move that we make, we have meetings at Naranja Lakes every other month. And on the, Mr. Chairman, on the issue of chair, I'm sympathetic to what Commissioner Cohen-Higgins says. This is the challenge that I have. So I've been chair of the County Commission before, and I know what the power of the chair is generally. If we alternate meetings, there is no continuity in the vision of the CRA. And so what happens is folks who want to do something and can't get it on one agenda, they'll just wait until the next meeting and get it on another. That becomes more problematic, and that's not a democracy. That is forum shopping. That's forum shopping. So if you all don't want to have a non-discretion, because I think both of you are very capable of doing it, but I think the same conflict and vision that exists now would be magnified if you alternated as chair. If you don't want to have a non-county commissioner, non-district commissioner as the chairperson, then I would suggest you all may be doing it every two years. Whoever District 8 is, it's District 8 for this two years, and then District 9 for this two years. And like you all work it out that way. And then when we get to redistricting and we have to redraw the district maps, I think it's incumbent on this board to remember all of this conversation, the pain that we have having this conversation, and to try to incorporate Naranja Lakes into one county commission district. Commissioner Gilbert, I can... So the two of the quorum... Commissioner Gilbert, though, can we... A suggestion for your motion, and you can finish your motion now. To Commissioner Regalado's point, like, this could be changed at any time, right? So for purposes of just kind of like getting somewhere today, do you want to just add to your motion that they do co-chair one alternating months until we figure something else out? Because we're not really... And they could... We're just not getting anywhere. Like, so... And I know that some of my colleagues... For the purpose of the board, I can add it to my motion, but I will tell you, it's an epically bad idea. But it is not a good idea. But we can do it, because you're right, we can just undo it the next time, but the conflicts won't disappear because we have... They can have a sunshine meeting. They could have sunshine meetings before we actually reincorporate the CRA and bring ourselves to the board. So I don't know this, but I don't have a problem with that. I just want the next chair to bring us back some bylaws, and I want us for now also as a part of my motion. I like to default to the bylaws and the operations. Like, they have an operations manual and the bylaws for the Neurangia Lake CRA now. So we're their CRA board. We have whatever their bylaws were. We should be defaulting to them. So default to those documents. I move we default to those documents and make quorum five. We meet in Neurangia Lakes. And if it's the will of this board that they alternate, the district commissioners alternate chairmanship or they co-chair, they co-chair, and the agenda is to be set by both of them in sunshine meetings. Co-chair. So both of them have to sit together in a sunshine meeting and determine what the agenda is so that at least there's some continuity in the things that are brought before the CRA every time so that we don't have to, as a county commission, sitting as in the Neurangia Lake CRA board, have this type of prolonged discussion. So we have a motion on the table. I second Commissioner Gilbert. Second by Commissioner Gilbert to the attorneys. Is there any unreadiness or clarifications needed on the motion? No. Okay. Oh, great. All right. All those in favor, signify by saying, Commissioner Hardiman. In your motion, the only thing I object to because I fundamentally just disagree with it is reducing quorum requirements. I understand where we're trying to go, but what I've found is that when boards don't meet because of quorum and we reduce the quorum requirement, we are essentially lowering the threshold to pass items that, for instance, may not pass if you had an actual quorum. And then second, it absolves us from our responsibility. We are the board and so we need to show up. So it should be at least seven of us showing up in the city of Miami, for instance, five is a membership. Routinely, three people would show up and then there were commissioners that decided that they didn't want to show up to other CRAs and because those CRAs didn't have quorum, they didn't meet. But then you take on the responsibility of the meetings not have being held because you didn't show up. So that's the only thing. So because of that, in this, I will vote no. If you put it out singularly, I will vote for what you're asking for to continue this thing moving forward but then against the reduction in the quorum requirements. Yeah. I think I'm hearing whispers that the commissioners of the district are okay with five. I actually agree with what Commissioner Hardiman said. It makes sense. But I mean, again, they're commissioner. So the reason why I went with five and I'm going to go ahead, I respectfully, if I want to disagree and you can vote again and if it fails then you all can make another motion. But I foresee a circumstance where this CRA, if we're actually, if we were going to remove the quorum requirement, I probably would remove the meeting requirement being located there because I don't want a situation where the work is stalled in that area because we can't make the two-hour track down. I just, I see that as, and in a compact area, what you're saying makes a lot more sense. But in the vastness of Miami-Dade County, you're asking, for instance, Commissioner Steinberg and myself to come from essentially County Line Road and I'm going to go, we're going to try to make this track but in the vastness of the county, you run a risk of stalling the efforts of the CRA and I too have actually set foot in Naranja Lakes. No, they need the work to keep going. They need the work to keep going. So I want to leave the quorum level at five, please. All right. So all in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Show the item passed. Now, to get to the rest of our agenda items to the attorneys, we now have co-chairs. Who can I pass this agenda to to continue running this meeting? Or shall I finish this one meeting until, you guys want me to finish it? All right. I thought I was going to get away with just passing it on. But all right. So if you can read the next item, Mr. Attorney. Your next item is special item number two, which is a resolution of the board of commissioners of the Naranja Lakes Community Redevelopment Agency requesting the county mayor or county mayor's desk need to cause all potholes on county-owned or maintained roadways within the geographical boundaries of the redevelopment area to be identified, prioritized, and repaired utilizing applicable county procedures. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, you're recognized as the prime sponsor of this item. I do have a question or just a thought, but go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The item is pretty straightforward and speaks to immediately accessing dollars to improve the slum and plight in the Naranja Lakes CRA. And I believe that the District 9 commissioner has a motion on this item. I could be wrong, but again, the item is simply to start having the dollars invested because the roadways in that area are extremely problematic. And to the District 9 commissioner, I believe that this is the motion that you have regarding a different entity handling the work. Yeah. Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. And I believe if at the appropriate time we can get the county attorney to read the motion. Okay. So I don't believe that the District 9 commissioner has any opposition to special item number two. And again, I'm happy to answer any questions, but it is, like I said, to have dollars immediately invested as quickly as possible to bring up the roadways in the area. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So my only question, and I'm sorry if you just addressed this, I got distracted for 2.5 seconds, but my only thing, Commissioner, and now I guess to the two District Commissioners, is just not sure if it's a funding thing, but why keep it to just, like why not expand it to sidewalk repairs as well, and just anything that kind of falls in that same neighborhood. So I guess you're just as potholes, but what about, it adds it? Okay. All right. So I missed that. That's when I said I zoned out for 2.5 seconds. All right. So there's a motion on special item number two. So what's this motion? An amendment? Like, what's the? Yes, an amendment to the item. All right. So as amended? Yes. And we're going to ask the county attorney to read the amendment. Actually, Vice Chair, your amendment is to special item number four, not to special item number two. Okay. No, we do have, is this the infrastructure one, right? That's a separate motion, I believe, that you want me to read into the record. I'm happy to read that if you would like me to do that now. No, actually, what I wanted to do is have this added on as an amendment. To two. So special item number two. Okay. In the form of infrastructure, which is adding sidewalks or whatnot? Yeah. Yeah, when you read the motion, it makes sense under special item number two. Okay. All right. So you want to read the motion slash now? It's an amendment to special item number two? Sure. All right. The Vice Chairman, McGee, moves to request that the county mayor or county mayor's designate develop an implementation plan utilizing a portion of the funds allocated for infrastructure improvements in the fiscal year 2025-2026, Narangelo Lakes Community Redevelopment Agency's annual budget for infrastructure improvements to provide lighting. Is that the one we're talking about? Yes, sir. Okay. Lighting, tree trimming, pavements, pavement of road septic to sewer funding for families and senior citizens making less than 60% of area median income, and the addition of dedicated bicycle lanes within the Narangelo Lakes Community Redevelopment Area. Vice Chairman McGee further moves that the board requests that prior to taking actions identified herein, the county mayor or the county mayor's designee provide an initial implementation plan to the agency within 30 days of the effective date of this motion unless extended by the agency, which includes at a minimum the anticipated timelines for the actions identified herein, the estimated cost to complete each of the activities, and confirmation of the availability of funds within the agency's budget to successfully complete the activities. Terrence, can you also add in there sidewalk repairs, please? All right. So we got sidewalks included there as amended. We have a motion as amended. Do we have a second on the motion as amended? Okay, seconded by Commissioner Gilbert. I have Commissioner Hardiman on special item number two as amended. Thank you. Sitting with my CRA cap on, I just want to make something very plain. One, I appreciate the amendment that you made to the motion on the floor because the amendment goes above and beyond general responsibilities of government in this area. And so, for instance, potholes, to be very clear, potholes in that area should be paid for by Miami-Dade County. I mean, that is exactly what you all do, potholes. The CRA should be spitting the book of its funds trying to go above and beyond to create an economic incentive for that area or to improve it in a way that's unlike or unfunded from Miami-Dade County. So, for instance, if you're talking about, if we're talking about roads, if you're talking about roads, if CR, if Naranja needs infrastructure in its roads, water, sewer, things like that, that's beyond what we can typically do in Miami-Dade County. We have to plan it out in a budget cycle and things of that nature. And if you want to have an immediate impact, then it looks great for Naranja Lake CRA to create that, that that is part of what it does. And even just like we wouldn't have Red Rooster had not the CRA improved the water infrastructure there on the avenue. So, it's something that we must do. But we cannot, as a CRA board, allow Miami-Dade County to say, oh, you got some money, you pay for it. That is not how this thing works. The money that's there should be used to make enhancements. So, when you look at the lighting, improved sidewalks, meaning if you're making them not, not, not a, what is it, four foot, not a four foot sidewalk, but you want to make sidewalks, you know, 10 feet, pedestrian friendly, like really planting an area, planting trees to make it beautiful, that's what the CRA can certainly do. And I appreciate the amendment because it allows that type of action to occur. Thank you. Commissioner Regalado. Thank you. And in line with what Commissioner Hardiman is saying, my concern is we're not dealing with water and sewer infrastructure and whenever you have streets that have a series of potholes and the county comes in or a contractor comes in and fills the potholes, we don't fix the real issue. There may be situations in which it makes more sense to mill and resurface the street and I think we need to know what the infrastructure needs are for those streets. So while I get it that we want to like get going, at the same time I don't want to do something temporary when we could do something much better and address the infrastructure situation. So my question is, is this going to come back to us? You know, obviously we need to deal with the budgetary piece of it, but can we also work on an assessment of some of the streets that need the most amount of work and also have information if they need water and sewer infrastructure or stormwater infrastructure and then we can decide we either afford it or we don't afford it but at least we know as we're fixing those streets and those sidewalks. So I would like an assessment of the stormwater and the water and sewer infrastructure before we kind of make a decision on these areas. All right. Chief Denise. Through the chair, thank you so much. I really appreciate the comments of the commissioners and I've asked our director to step up to address the concern so that what we do produce meets the needs and the expectations of this board. I don't think 30 days would be enough time. So I'd like Director Miller to address the two things that were raised by Commissioner Hardiman and Commissioner Regalato. We'll get to the director in just a second here. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to, I think it's an amendment that Commissioner Regalato is making. I'm happy to accept that amendment to the item as well. I think an assessment will only add value and I couldn't agree more with Commissioner Hardiman's comment regarding this is the work that we should be doing as a county. But again, if you've visited the area once versus frequent it, you recognize that this area unfortunately is unfunded in our budget. They're level four roads and they're just so far down the list of having these repairs done. Our goal, and I believe Commissioner McGee will agree, is to bring up this area aesthetically as quickly as possible so that that investment that you are talking about that is so necessary in bringing these big development projects to the area will become that much more attractive including obviously improving the quality of lives of the residents in Naranja Lakes because potholes are a huge, huge, huge issue and I would like to see some of the money, obviously not the lion's share of it, but some of the money needs to go into these immediate aesthetic upgrades so that we and our residents can see those improvements and see that their tax dollars are working for them as quickly as possible. So I'm happy to accept Commissioner Regalado's amendment for the assessment and I'm happy to accept Commissioner McGee's amendment that adds additional infrastructure items to special item number two. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So we have a motion on special item number two as amended with a second and are you all comfortable with that now? Through the Chair, our concern is 30 days is not enough time to do an adequate assessment and implementation plan. We would like to request more time. Okay, additional time for the assessment or additional time to implement the pothole repair because I'm not interested in additional time for the pothole repair and having that triggered the assessment. I think if you need more time, that's certainly reasonable. So are you asking for additional time just on the assessment? Go ahead, Stacey. Stacey Miller. For the record, I'll recognize Stacey because they've still had me chair this meeting. I'm not sure why, but go ahead, Director. Thank you, Chair. We would, just to clarify, to do an assessment, this would be more than DTPW. This would involve the water and sewer parks who deals with landscape and that sort of maintenance. So an assessment would take much longer than 30 days. We would need 90 to 120 days to do that assessment between multiple offices. Regarding potholes, the, and I just, I would need a clarification. Obviously, we have very few pothole teams that are available countywide. If we are talking about trying to acquire a contractor to be able to do pothole filling in that area, we obviously know that takes a much longer amount of time. If it's being funded by the CRA, we would need to work through that process. So that would take longer than 30 days to get started. I don't believe the team that we have available would be able to do that as well as all of the, a concentration in this CRA area as well as concentrate on all of our other pothole areas. So we would want to contract that out so that we could fully engage in the goal. That concerns me. Yeah, that concerns me, right? I mean, this is why the item is before us. So, and that's why I wanted the clarification regarding the assessment versus pulling the trigger to actually get the work done. And frankly, the request exacerbates the issue because the, the, the issue is that the potholes remain. And so there's the assessment, which is separate. The CRA is funding the actual work. We just need to coordinate scheduling to get the teams out there as quickly as possible to get the roadways as traversable as quickly as possible. So I don't know why that would take 60 to 120. That wouldn't take 60 to 120 days. What I want to make sure is that I have team members either available who can do that work or contract that work out through our existing contracted processes, available contracts that we may have to do it. Okay. I think, I think you're going to need to contract this out. I think we all can agree that you're going to need to contract this out. Let's not even explore the option of doing it in-house. Hence, they haven't been done. And we have potholes throughout the county. So the question, so that we can maybe take a vote on this item, is do you all legally need anything from us to waive rules, to call it an emergency contract? Like, let's just get the potholes fixed. How do we get it? How do you call someone today and tell them, we need you out tomorrow? Do you need anything from us? Do you need an authorization from us? I believe I may have the contracting mechanisms already. It will take me longer than a day to contract that out through our existing contracting methods, but I don't think I need any additional authority to use the contracts that we already have. Perfect. That's great. All right. I will recognize you, Commissioner Ardeman. I'll be brief. But I'm trying to call a vote. I'll be brief. All right. First, I know it's hard, but we got to keep our mind on who's meeting. So this board can't tell them to do anything. One, right? Two, Domino's Pizza fills potholes. Y'all remember the Domino's Pizza commercial? They fill potholes? Like, we should be able to fill a pothole today, right now. That's the second thing. That's just, to me, that sounds preposterous that Miami-Dade County, that entity, can't fill a pothole in your neighborhood. So that's another thing. And then three, if, for instance, we are going to, as a board, be filling potholes, CRA board, then most likely, if the government is not going to do the job, then we need to contract CRA board with an entity to fill potholes. Not Miami-Dade County contracting. Because remember, we're operating as a CRA board. Just a few cents. That's all. Thank you. Make sense to me. Mr. Chair? No, no. Love you. Jimmy, we're going to call a vote here. All in favor of special item number two as amended, as amended, with all the comments on the record, signified by saying aye. All opposed nay. All right. Show special item number two passed as amended, as amended. Special item number three, Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, you're recognized on your item. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And to the attorneys, do we have to take these up individually like we, or can we take them up as a body, the way that we do at committee hearings? Is there any rule that requires us to take this up individually? No. Okay. I don't know if my colleagues have questions on special item number three and number four. I do know that our lieutenants from the Southern District are here and want to speak on special item number three. They stepped out while the public hearing opened on the Narangela Lakes, CRA. So if our lieutenant is here, I'd welcome him to the podium to share, him or her, no, him, to share a few remarks on special item number three. This is lieutenant Ferguson. First of all, good morning, everyone, to the board. Regarding the special item number three, I have been a working with the, excuse me for a second amount of breath. I literally tried to run to the restroom and run back. Thank you for being. So currently, I work with the Miami, obviously work with the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office. I'm a part of the South District Neighborhood Resource Unit, which is a part of the Narangela Lakes CRA. My job pretty much consists of being the liaison between the community the commercial businesses, clergy, and a host of other things. So originally, I've been trying to reach out to the Narangela Lakes CRA. We have been in contact throughout their previous years since I've been in this assignment regarding their community policing innovation program and trying to see what can we do as a sheriff's office and how can we better better that program for the CRA. Thank you. Lieutenant. So in summary, are you in support of this item? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. 100%. Okay. Thank you. I move special item number three, Mr. Chair. Commissioner, the vice chair has an amendment to that item. I mean, Terrence, I was about to recognize him, but you're... All right. Guys, I'll say it again. I don't want to share this meeting. Like, I don't need to share this meeting, but like, if I am, we're going to kind of go through the chair as long as you all want me to chair it. But vice chairman, you're recognized. But thank you, Terrence, for jumping in and chairing as well. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, Ferg. We affectionately call you Ferg down south because you've always been on the front line ensuring that the community is safe and sound. Mr. Chairman, at this time, we'd like to recognize the county attorney to read the motion that I have for this particular item. Sure. Vice chairman, McGee moves to amend special item number three to require the community policing policy include a plan to install more shot spotter, gunfire detection systems, a plan to increase neighborhood resource officers and the utilization of illegal dumping response teams. Accordingly, section two of the resolution would be amended to add two subsections, F and G. F would include a plan to install more shot spotter, gunfire detection systems in the redevelopment area. And G, include a plan to increase the number of neighborhood resource officers and the utilization of illegal dumping response team. So I will say this, that as far as the shot spotter is concerned, we currently already have shot spotter in that neighborhood and within South District. Regarding the second item, that would be something that would have to be deferred to the sheriff herself regarding the transfers and additional personnel to the South District. So I wouldn't be able to answer that question. Thank you. So we'll just keep it there, but as it relates to the shot spotter, I know we do have, how many we have, like one or two? I think it was last time I checked. Let me defer to my major, major, I think we have, so I'll keep the motion as it is and then if there's any issues then we'll just deal with it later, but more shot spotters are needed in that area because Naranja is growing and it's vast and we do need more neighborhood resource officers there and we have a huge issue with illegal dumping and that is pretty much taking up a lot of issues there, so just keep the motion where it is. Thank you. All right, so we have a motion, we got it all second, Commissioner Hardiman. You know, I have a great deal of experience with the, with community policing initiatives or we call them innovations and what I found is that many times the police departments advocate to CRAs to fund these things and Southeast Old Town we funded it, defunded it and then after I left they were advocating again and they refunded it. One of the things that I know Terrence is probably keenly aware of this that we have to be very careful of because remember the police departments are separate entities than the CRA board is that the statute is very, is, is the, the Florida State statute is clear about supplanting the responsibility of other departments such as Miami-Dade County government and or for instance the sheriff's department in this case and so for instance the reason we created the community policing initiative initially was because particularly in the areas of 14th Street, 20th Street, 3rd Avenue, etc. We had a great deal of 2nd Avenue, 1st Avenue, homelessness, drug sales, prostitution and if you remember I mean there was one case where a kid picked up some fentanyl and died in the middle of Overtown, that big case. I mean all of this was going on because we had a proliferation of tents and other things like that and so we wanted to create an opportunity for us to have police presence to discourage that and what we learned over time was that the police just didn't do what they said they were going to do. So when they didn't, so you have to understand two ways how this goes. When the officer says I need to report to the chief that is, remember this is an organization like the military, he's not going to be able to commit to anything, chief has to make that assessment. So for instance, typically in those areas if we wanted more police presence from our police department, the chief would assign more officers there. So already what you said is we will pay for more officers to be there, right? So therein lies your first question about how does it work. In the Overtown area, they created a whole other thing to sort of create, they created an actual thing of officers that was different from the regular police department's officers to kind of differentiate between the two. Those people, for instance, who we were in contract with as a CRA board, we didn't allow them to even leave the district for lunch. They had a requirement to be in there for lunch. They broke those rules sometimes I saw with my own eyes, but that's neither here nor there. We bought, for instance, Segways, you know, those things that you stand on. We bought a whole bunch of things for presence. Never have I ever in my life seen an officer ride a Segway in overtime. You should know that. But they had to have another seal on their clothing to denote that they were actual CRA people during that time that I was there. And so then when we asked for the accountability of it all, they told us about certain arrests that they did, et cetera. But the point is that when you create a policing initiative or innovation, what you're hoping for is interaction with the police and the people in a way that's conducive to making the neighborhood a better place. And so all I say, and I follow the chairmen, the chairmen's in this, I will follow your lead. But I always say I approach with caution where you can create, you can spend a lot of money. It usually, I mean, it's going to cost you no less than $700,000 a year probably to do something like this. You can spend a lot of money on police and don't get the effect that you want. You may be better off spending it elsewhere and allowing the police department to do what it naturally does. Naranja is one of those places where they spend resources already, I'm sure, to be present. And you have to, what, NROs and things of that nature. I mean, we have the ability to make it happen. But remember, as this board that we're sitting on as a CRA board, we have no authority whatsoever to direct Miami-Dade County. We have no authority to direct the sheriff's office. They will do what they want to do. In fact, they will just tell us whether or not they want to participate in the policing innovation. They make that decision. And so, you know, number three is a hard one. But, you know, if that's something that you want to explore because you've never done it, maybe there's a way you can get it done. I would say explore it. But don't be surprised if it doesn't happen in the way as quickly or the way that you would like it to be. All right. All in favor, signify by saying I. All opposed nay. All right. Item passes. Special item number four. Special. We still have a BCC meeting we got to go back to. Just FYI, guys. Everybody's committing to all these CRA meetings in Naranja and y'all can't even get through a BCC meeting. All right. Special item number four. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, you're recognized. I move it, Mr. Chair. All right. It's been moved by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, seconded by the, okay, there's a second by the vice chair and an amendment to it or a motion thereafter? It's an amendment. Ask the county attorney to read the amendment. Please read the amendment. Vice Chairman McGee moves to amend special item number four to request that the county mayor or the county mayor's designee utilize Greater Miami Services Corp rather than existing county employees and or contracts to provide roadside cleanup and landscaping services and to make conforming changes to the title. That would then amend section two to strike the words existing county employees and or contracts and insert the words Greater Miami Services Corp. Okay. So there's a motion. There's a second on the item. There's an amendment. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, you're recognized on the amendment. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Can they do this work? Commissioner from District 9, I mean, do they have the vehicles? Do they have the materials? I think it's a great idea. I love the idea. I just want to make sure that they have the infrastructure. Yeah, that they have what they need in order to effectuate this work. So I know this is an organization you're very close to, you're very familiar with. We passed very important legislation supporting it in the last year. My question is simply that. Do they have the infrastructure to do this work? Mr. Chairman? Vice Chair, well, Coach, I don't even, just Commissioner, just go. Just say whatever you want to say. Short answer is absolutely. They do have the capacity. This is what they do in part to be on a safe side of what we would do. Terrence, just go ahead and amend my amendment to add the words and slash or. That way, we can ensure that the capacity is there and if there's a shortfall, we can always fulfill it with the county side of the employment. Just for clarification, is the and or after the words existing county employees or contracts and or greater Miami services core? That would be affirmative. Yes. Okay. All right. So with that, all in favor, Commissioner Gilbert, you recognize? I'll support these and I'll vote for these, but like as the Naranja Lakes CRA board, we can't ask, we can't tell the county to do anything. So we're operating, it's not just the sheriff that we can't tell the sheriff. We can't tell the county. We can pass an urging as the Naranja Lakes board to the board of county commissioners, as sitting and county commissioners, we can tell the county. And so I just want us to be mindful that we're considering these items, but to the extent that our items require us to direct the county to do something or yeah, we just have to be mindful of how we do that. And so I would feel comfortable and this is going to sound crazy, but as the Naranja Lakes board, I might feel comfortable actually that's just hiring people to do the stuff we want done. Commissioner Gilbert, I don't know, and this is a question to I guess the attorneys or the administration. So the county is serving, you're right in theory, but the county is also serving now as our like management company, right? Like aren't you all serving as, I mean, that's how it was explained to me yesterday by both the lawyers, Jerry, you were in the room and on our Zoom call. Like you all are, in fact, I mean, I don't want to delay this any further, but you all told me, the administration said you all don't even have a need for all the existing contracts that the CRA has right now because you're doing those services now. So, I mean, so we don't direct the county in the capacity of the county, but aren't they our management company? Like aren't they running the CRA now? So, Mr. Chairman, they are the people we've essentially appointed to be the executive director administration of the CRA. But this is where the inherent conflict comes in that we all have to manage because the county's responsibility existed prior to the incorporation of the CRA. So, you're asking the people, for instance, who wasn't actually filling the potholes to fill the potholes. And so, you're asking them to do that. When CRAs come into existence, what they typically do is pay somebody else to fill the potholes that wasn't being done based on the existing obligation of the county in that area. And so, they wanted services that were above that. In the sheriff's instance, you're asking the people who are responsible providing law enforcement in an area anyway to do something more. So, it's, when Commissioner Hardeman spoke about how we have to adjust our mindset, I think this is what he was trying to get at. We are very accustomed to sitting as a county commission. And so, when we say something, our expectation is they do something unless the mayor veto. So, but Commissioner Gilbert, I agree. I agree with what you're saying. I just, I need clarification from them because I'm just seeing it different, right? I own a property management company and I manage associations. The board decides everything. So, we are the CRA board. We decide who we want to contract with. We can contract with A&A landscaping. We don't need to go through the county's vendor pool list or your procurement stuff. We don't need that. That's why I was asking those questions of the director. We don't, but we're not in the business of saying, you know, my cousin's a landscaper. I've seen his work before. Like, let's hire A&A landscaping. So, I look to, unless we change that and we can as a CRA board, like, I look to the administrators that are current, that now we've, whether we voted for it or not, like, Bermuda said he didn't vote for it. Whether we voted for it or not, we brought it back to the management of the county. Is that wrong? Like, maybe I'm looking at it wrong and I have to adjust that as well. But, so I'm not asking the county to do it as the county. I'm asking the county to do it because they're now the CRA's, like, not board, but administrators. Yeah. So, they're the board, the CRA's administrators, but the administration, executive director of the CRA doesn't innately have the authority to actually fill the potholes. They would, as the administrators, they would still have to hire somebody. So, for instance, when we say use the county to do this, the county as a contract agency we have to contract with could, in theory, just say no. Yes. To us. They could say no. So, they have the actual ability to say no to the CRA board. Now, as the county commission, it would be perilous to tell us no. Yeah, so it would be perilous to tell us no. But, we're not sitting as the county commission. And so, what you're saying is right, but think about it in terms of when you're managing the association, you said you all can hire people, but the people you hire always have the opportunity to engage in the contract or not. They are an arm's length provider of services now. The administration of the CRA as an Office of Management and Budget is one thing. They're the executive director, but unless they're going to be the people out there actually filling the potholes, then we're going to have to contract with the county to do that. So, it's just a subtle mind shift that we have to adjust ourselves to. Yeah. Mr. Chairman. Hardeman. You know, unless I didn't read something that was provided to me for this particular CRA, I mean, I would dare to say that the administration for the CRA is the executive director that's sitting down there. Her and her staff, if she has staff, will be the administrators of it. Now, we would contract, for instance, like in most CRAs and in some CRAs, you can hire a lawyer that works for that CRA that helps draft items and things of that nature to put it before that board. They don't use the county attorney's office. Like, for instance, in Southeast Overtown, in Omni, they don't use this board or this county attorney's office to draft resolutions. They have their own attorneys that draft it. They hire outside counsel sometimes to even draft certain things or represent them on certain issues and sometimes they can contract also with the city. So, in this case, if we have a, if that, Naranja has his own attorney, I don't know, I don't think so, but they would draft it, right? Or the executive team would tell this organization, the county attorney's office what they like and they would draft it, but usually there's a cost to that because you're, unless we decide as a county, commission that we're supposed to be providing services to the CRA at no cost to them, right? So, you have those little nuances, but the administration, the whole, the idea, the administration has absolutely nothing to do, as I would take it, unless something was printed that I didn't see with this CRA board because the administration is his own thing. That's our mayor's office and the 28,000 employees or so that she has, but particularly the person that we are concerned about in this circumstance would be the county attorney's office because who's drafting these resolutions, who's signing that this thing meets the legal sufficiency that it needs in order to have items put on and those are the things and that's why I think there's this confusion here because when I read this particular item, you know, it's, this is not something that a CRA board attorney would have probably signed to legal sufficiency for because it has conflicts in how and what is the board is directing. And so, you know, Mr. Chairman, you said something that I thought was pretty interesting. You said that, you know, you manage agencies. Well, you manage some other agencies and you were questioning whether or not if, for instance, a CRA board can just hire who they would like to hire. Well, it depends. It depends on how the CRA boards are set up, how they contract through their procurement, et cetera. So it does not necessarily have to be, it's not necessarily the same as Miami-Dade County. It could be something that's a little different. And so because it's something a little different, it may move faster and that's the part of the reason that you have the CRA boards and why when there's a problem like what Commissioner Danielle Coring-Higgins wants to address, you will hire outside people like, for instance, the, this organization that our vice chairman wants to propose to do those things. So, but, you know, we just have to decouple the thinking that we have about Miami-Dade County administrators versus the CRA executive team. That's who we're contracted with in order to move this board forward. Thank you. Okay. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Thank you. Thank you so much, mister. I just wanted to comment that I agree completely with the comments made by Commissioner Gilbert and Commissioner Hardiman and I want to be clear, this is the first Naranja Lake CRA meeting and these items are intended to bring immediate relief as quickly as possible. If at subsequent meetings we decide to engage in long-term contracts with different vendors that may be able to provide the services at a lower rate and more efficiently, I'm happy to do it. The point of the items, however, is this work had not been previously done and the residents in the area desperately need this work to be done. So I accept the amendments proffered by the Commissioner from District 9 and again, hopefully we can carry this final item. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right. We have a motion. We have a second. All in favor, signify by say an aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Show the item passed as amended. All right. Do I have a motion to adjourn? Can I ask one more thing, please? It's brief. It's always brief. Everybody says it's brief. No one on this board has ever said it's going to be long. Could Terrence give us the rules moving forward for all of us like we requested before just as the CRA. Can he just give us the rules as we move forward? That's all I ask. All right. Commissioner Bermuda is on that moves to adjourn. Seconded by Commissioner, Vice Chair, Co-Chair, Chairs, all in favor of adjourning, signify by say an aye. I'll oppose nay. Show us back on our regular BCC meeting. That was very fun. I mean, it could have been a lot funner. No, more fun. More fun. Funner's not a word. So it could have been more fun, but I think it was a good time spent on what we needed to get done. So, Madam Attorney, can we get into second reading items at this time? Yes. Would you like for me to read them all or just 7D is the zoning application? So do you want me to do all of them or the first three? How would you like to proceed, Mr. Chair? Let's do the first three for now. 7A is an ordinance relating to the rules of procedure of the board amending section 2-1 of the code requiring public meetings for housing projects including but not limited to the development or redevelopment of public housing and other affordable housing providing severability, inclusion in the code and an effective date and its supplement. 7B is an ordinance relating to noise regulation amending section 21-28 of the code modifying the circumstances that establish a prima facie violation of the noise regulations governing radios, televisions and similar devices providing severability, inclusion in the code and an effective date. 7C is an ordinance relating to county boards amending section 2-11.38 of the code requiring clerk of the board to notify county commissioners when any position on a county board becomes vacant providing severability, inclusion in the code and an effective date. Alright, so on the first three, 7A, 7B and 7C, are there any bifurcations on any of those? Seeing no bifurcations on those, I'll entertain a motion. It's been moved by Commissioner Steinberg, seconded by Senator Garcia. Clerk, please call the roll. Commissioner Lopez, Commissioner Emiliano Orbis, Commissioner Regalado, Commissioner Steinberg, Commissioner Bastien, Commissioner Bermudez, Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, or Senator Garcia, Commissioner Gilbert. I have one ready here. On the first three items. That's a good one. Alright. Alright, are you casting, did you cast a vote or you need bifurcate? I just asked if you wanted to bifurcate any of these. He moved, so you must have cast. One of the first three items, 7A, 7B, or 7C, you want to bifurcate one? Okay, we're still on it, so we could do that. So which one do you want to bifurcate? Which is 7A, 7C. Alright, so show 7C bifurcated. Let's do this again. No, 7B. 7B. Alright, can we all pay attention here, especially if we're going to bifurcate items and speak on them? Alright, so 7, we have a motion on 7A and 7C by Commissioner Steinberg. Excuse me. Seconded. Point of clarification, Mr. Chair. Madam Mayor. Thank you. On 7C, there was an amendment that I believe. It's just not so much an amendment, but it needs to clarify that the ordinance would also relate to the mayor's appointment, not just the commissioner's appointment, since she does get an appointment to boards and committees and would like to have the same timely notifications. Okay. Again, can we all just pay attention to the item so we're not interrupting the middle of a vote? So, That's to the clerk. So, to the clerk, it's clarifying? It doesn't, okay. Alright, so we're clarifying 7C on the record now, and we're, we have a motion on 7A and 7C by Steinberg, a second by Senator Garcia. We've now bifurcated 7B. Clerk, call the roll on 7A and 7C. Okay. Commissioner Lopez. Yes. Commissioner Emiliano Orbis. Yes. Commissioner Regalado. Commissioner Steinberg. Commissioner Bastien. Yes. Commissioner Bermudez. Yes. Commissioner Quinn Higgins. 4. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. Commissioner Gonzalez. 4. Commissioner Hardiman. Vice Chairman McGee. Chairman Rodriguez. Vote yes. Motion passes unanimously. Alright, Commissioner Gilbert, you're recognized on 7B. Yeah, I just want to know, because initially, and I think I, might have misunderstood initially, I thought that this was applying to vessels and boats and things of that nature. Does this, but then, I'm informed that this is also just, this is going to be cars and vehicles? Just to clarify, the vehicular portion is state statute that they're just codifying. The only new thing is for vessels. Yeah. I guess the challenge I have is, yeah, I don't have a problem with the vessel, the ships and stuff. I don't have a problem with that. But, you know, when I was a prosecutor, I saw a lot of stops that were clearly protectual. And I don't, I don't know that I'm comfortable with that. And so, I wouldn't, it's just the vehicle portion that I have a problem with. Commissioner Steinberg. Yeah, it is state statute, so it would be in force. We don't have to have it in our codified rules, but, so I will amend it. Thank you. Thank you. So the vehicle portion bifurcated out of this item. And with that, Commissioner Steinberg moves 7B, seconded by Commissioner Gonzalez. Commissioner Hardiman, you're recognized on 7B. Sure. We had a lot of discussion about this at our committee meeting. I still wholeheartedly stand against this item. Why? Because we already have a noise ordinance item for vessels. If, I think it's 25 feet, if you plainly can hear music or something on a phonograph or a speaker playing from a boat, the police can stop you and cite you and do a number of other things. They can probably board your boat and et cetera. What this item does is it reduces it to, what is it, five feet? It reduces to what? No, it's at 25, reduces to what? I'm sorry, it's at 100, yeah, and reduces it to 25. And at the committee meeting, the one thing we made very clear was how just a cell phone playing music can broadcast greater than 25 feet. And I'm going to not do the theatrics that I did then, but I just simply played a song, turned off my speaker. Do it, you do it, because you weren't there. Play any song you want to on your phone and you'll see that us being more than 25 feet away, I can plainly hear it being played. And so, when you reduce it from 100 to 25, I believe what you're doing is you're just giving reason for any boat to be stopped that's just simply playing music. I know it says it's reduced to 25, but we know that at 25 feet, you can clearly hear it. So, you know, one of the things that one of the officers said when he gave his testimony during our committee meeting, he said, we have thousands, we give thousands of warnings, but we've only cited a few. I didn't say this then because we were having a lot of discussion, but I'll say it now. Maybe that officer is your problem because if he's giving thousands of warnings to people who are violating the sound noise ordinance at 100 feet, maybe if he gives some tickets to people, people would then generally say, in the boating arena, you can't play your music that loud, Miami-Dade County will cite you. Instead, they give the warnings and then this body creates a 25-foot problem which means that now if thousands of people were violating it at 100 feet, then presumably thousands of people were not violating. So then more people will now violate because it's at 25 feet because the standard is reduced. The standard is now reduced to 25 feet which now for people who were just, who were perfectly within the law with their sound system, they're going to be violated because now it's not 100 anymore, it's not 75, it's not 50, it's 25. And the level of education that you're going to have to have and the number of now warnings that you're going to have to give is going to go from thousands to much higher than that. You just have to look at this with pure logic. I think one of the sponsors of the item, Commissioner Lopez, she mentioned something about the commercial boats. She mentioned that, you know, you have these boats that travel along and say, hey, this person lives in this house, et cetera. She said, well, maybe those, they should have earphones. I think that's a perfectly reasonable request to make of industry. Instead of it being broadcasted all over the place, make those people put the headphones on so at least we eliminate that problem. But when, you know, I never served as a prosecutor. I served as a defense attorney. I continue to serve as a defense attorney. And what I get to see is the arrests. I get to see the actual search. I get to see the probable cause that they asked for or the reasonable suspicion. You are drastically lowering the level for probable cause or reasonable suspicion of committing a crime because you're doing this. And it's not necessary. The reason that we have a problem is because right now, boats are blaring music. Boats are playing music beyond, that can be plainly heard beyond 100 feet. If you use that law and follow that law, we would not have a problem. You're introducing a new problem by saying 25 feet. You think that by making it 25 feet, people are going to turn their music down. They're not. They're going to play their music and what you're going to do is board more boats. You're going to be giving more warnings. It's like saying, I reduced the speed limit and so people are going to drive slower. That does not happen. We should not be naive. And so we're introducing a new problem. We're introducing more interactions that we don't need to have. The last thing I'll say, because some people, you know, people feel the way they feel about this. There was testimony from one of our city leaders that was here about this particular issue. And she commented about what these new voters are doing that were never voting before. We have new voters in Miami County, she said. They have never voted before. Sometimes I misquote so it's around this, it's around this statement. She commented that one of the things that they're doing that's so offensive is that they're twerking on the boats. And my comment was that they're twerking on the boats. There's only a few, there's only a few types of music that you can twerk to. So I just, I say to you all, who is this being targeted for? Some of the loudest music that I know of that's played at the highest amplitude, amplitude, I think that's how you say it, is grunge music. That's something that's louder. No? Not Rene? You know louder? Rene might know louder. You idiot. That's a low beat. It's a low beat. Heavy metal. It's grunge, right? Heavy metal. Let's not, like we, don't, let's not forget, a Spanish can speak louder than a 25-feet at Plainly. Bad Bunny? All right. Commissioner Harden, can you remember that? So my ending is, Some are getting excited with the twerking. So my ending to this is, who is this being designed for? Is it being designed to simply attack voters who were never boating before? Or is this a noise issue? Because if it's certainly a noise issue, the officer told us, he is basically not citing people, he issues warnings. And I can tell you this, as long as you continue to issue warnings for people violating at 100 feet, people are going to accept those warnings. Thank you. Commissioner Steinberg. Thank you so much. You know, I appreciate all the dialogue. We had a very healthy discussion at committee. I will say, this is for overnight after 11 p.m. We have a lot of illegal charters and things happening on the waterway. And I actually want to just bring up really quickly, yesterday was the last meeting of the voter safety and educational task force led by the Fernandez family. And they have worked really diligently and passionately on trying to make the waterway safer. And that's all we're trying to do is put another tool in the toolbox. And so with that, I do pass it. I do make the motion, rather. All right. There's a motion. There's a second by Commissioner Lopez. Do I need a roll call on this? Yep. Clerk, call the roll. Commissioner Amelia Norbis. Commissioner Regalado. Commissioner Steinberg. Commissioner Bastien. Commissioner Bermudez. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Four. Senator Garcia. Commissioner Gilbert. Commissioner Gonzalez. Four. Commissioner Hardiman. Commissioner Lopez. Yes. Vice Chairman McGee. Chairman Rodriguez. I vote yes. Motion passes 11 to 1. All right. Now we know who likes the twerkers. The twerking twerking. All right. I'm going to introduce. I'm going to introduce. I'm still. My mind is on twerking. I'm going to interrupt the second readings for a second. I need to recognize Commissioner Bastien for a urging. Thank you so much. This is a resolution urging the U.S. United States Senate to pass House Resolution 1689 or similar legislation that would extend TPS, Temporary Protected Status, for Haitians lawfully present in the U.S. for three years. On April 16, 2026, the United States House of Representatives took a historic bipartisan vote to pass legislation that would extend TPS for Haitians lawfully present in the United States. Now the Senate has the opportunity to pass this legislation and protect the more than 300,000 TPS soldiers lawfully present in the United States. And let me add that that would set a precedent for other TPS holders. This includes thousands of our neighbors, our family members, our friends, and our work colleagues right here in Miami-Dade County. There are also demonstrable economic benefits. According to four data, Haitian TPS holders alone contribute $5.9 billion annually to this economy, to our economy, $805 million in federal and payroll tax and $755 million in state and local taxes. As we continue to grow critical industries in South Florida, Haitians will continue to play an indispensable role in helping Miami-Dade County be the best place to work, live, and play. I respectfully seek the support of my colleagues on this item, on this urging, not only because it's the right thing to support for the clear, positive impacts on our economy. And let me add, most of the TPS holders live right here in Miami-Dade County. There are more TPS holders here than any other place in the U.S. Thank you for your support. All right. So just for procedural reasons, the attorney's approached me, I'm officially adding this item onto the agenda. Yes. And I have to open up reasonable opportunity on this item. Those that have seen what this item is, if there's anyone that wishes to speak, now will be the time. Seeing none, reasonable opportunity is now closed. I will have Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I simply ask the sponsor if I can be listed as a co-sponsor on this important item. And I think it's particularly timely considering that we are all celebrating Haitian Heritage Month. Thank you for bringing the item. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes. And I'd like to serve as a co-sponsor as well, Commissioner. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would also. Thank you. Showing Garcia, Lopez, Gilbert, Steinberg, myself, and Cohen-Higgins as co-sponsors of the urging. And Orbis, you're recognized. Or just to, okay, and Orbis as well. All right. Turn it up to me. Well, yes. With that, there's a motion on the urging by Commissioner Bastien, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. Senator Garcia, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I want to thank Commissioner Bastien for bringing this important item to the County Commission. And listen, I recognize, I think we all recognize that temporary protective status is temporary. But when we look at the issues of Haiti, both politically and what's happened after the earthquakes and geographically, what's happening in the country, I think we recognize that that temporary issue is still going on. And it's not, us as a community who have worked alongside our Haitian American brothers and sisters have to recognize that what's good for one should be good for all. And we need to make sure that we stand arm in arm with our Haitian brothers and sisters and supporting them, especially in this time of need. I understand the issues that we're facing along the border. I'm one that always decided that we should shut down the border and make sure we return the criminal element. But when we start going a little deeper and a little further, I mean a little harder into our communities, that sends a bad precedence. We're better than that. And I think by us being able to stand up with our brothers and sisters, our Haitian brothers and sisters, especially as a Cuban-American, it's an honor to be able to do that with you, along with you and the county commissioners to ensure that we say let's give our Haitian brothers and sisters the same chance that other communities have had. So for me, Commissioner Bastien, I appreciate you bringing this. And for me, it's an honor too. Co-sponsor this alongside you. Thank you, Senator. All right. So I have a motion. I have a second. I'll call a question. You want to speak? Oh, co-sponsor Hardiman. Show him as a co-sponsor as well. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Show the urging. Pass. Congratulations, Commissioner Bastien. Thank you, Chair. All right. Our, I guess, last item-ish of the second readings is our CDMP item. 7-D. Does the director or anyone need to read anything into the record? Okay. Mr. Chair, yes. 7-D is an ordinance relating to Miami-Dade County Comprehensive Development Master Plan, providing disposition of application number CDMP 2023-13, located west of Northwest 137th Avenue and SR836 interchange and north side of the theoretical Northwest 6th Street filed by Kelly Tractor Company in the May 2023 cycle to amend the county's Comprehensive Development Master Plan, providing severability, exclusion from the code and an effective date and its supplements. All right. To the applicant, do you need to add anything to the record? Chairman, yes. If we can have four minutes just to update the board on the latest needs analysis, I will actually turn it over to Mr. Paul Lambert who will walk everybody through the needs analysis. Awesome. Mr. Lambert, just please reintroduce yourself and... Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Paul Lambert with the firm Lambert Advisory. I think we need the address for the record. Sure. 2199, Ponstant Leon Boulevard, Coral Gables. We've completed two approaches to the needs analysis. First is the traditional needs analysis under the CDMP asking, you know, is there enough vacant or underutilized land inside the UDB to support 10 years of industrial demand countywide and in the planning tier in which the project is located? After a detailed analysis of land holdings by land holding, going property by property, as part of our analysis, provide the staff, the answer is clearly, no, there's not enough land. The county will run out of land in the north-central tier between 2030 and 2032, which is only four to six years from now, and that's even using a fairly suppressed absorption of space that's estimated by the county. In fact, there's been 4.4 million square feet of industrial space that's been developed per year over the past 10 years in the county. The projections now from Oxford Economics, that's going to be another 2.9 million per year, and by the county's most aggressive estimate of absorption is somewhere between 2.2 and 2.5 million per year. So there is, we're running out of land very quickly and substantially more quickly than the county RER's own projections. The needs assessment number two that we completed is a bit different and fairly unique. And the question was, why does Kelly Tractor need 150 acres of land to support their operation when, and this has been in the staff report, why does, given the fact that Kelly has nine to 10 acres of open space across a three, a busy three-lane road from their main headquarters facility, which was first built in 1971 and is currently by any standard obsolete. So you first need to understand Kelly, which is really Caterpillar at the end of the day, as, as one of the few American manufacturers, equipment companies, which continue to be the dominant player in their field. They have developed an ecosystem around, around their, their company, not unlike, unlike Boeing. They're actually not that different in size as companies, as Boeing, where they, where they take customers from, from sales all the way through training, organization, working with those customers on rehabilitation, finally selling and financing, financing their, their product. It's very different than many other companies. And as a result, they have 40% market share in, in, in the market. In, in the local, in the local market, they are providers during, during hurricanes, recovery. There is, there is 110 megawatts of energy that's sitting on Kelly's, Kelly's property at any given time, which is the equivalent to a midsize utility power plant. They are, they, they are, and, and they're the equipment provider largely to the $23 billion Everglades restoration project immediately, immediately to the west. So, so Kelly, is, is, is in a, is in a position where they can only build another 130,000 square feet of space on what, what is vacant land currently, but is really utilized as, as open space. and they really need to be able to expand their operations in a significant way for a variety of reasons. While the, while the site, the proposed site is 246 acres in total, the reality is the developable area is only 150, 50 acres. There is, there is retention, there is wetlands, there's GMX acquisition that brings them down from 246 acres to 300, 150 acres. I mean, so what they're looking to do is develop 2.8. Excuse me, excuse me, Mr. Lambert. Yes, sir. Can we quiet down in the chamber? Because I hear more background noise than I hear Mr. Lambert speaking. He's got a microphone. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So what they're seeking to do is to develop about 2.8 times the amount of space in the first phase as they currently have. Why do they need to do this? Number one, they have outgrown their current facilities, which are, as I noted before, obsolete, and needed immediate expansion of indoor space as well as outdoor space. They will also be consolidating, they cover a region of 13 counties. They'll be consolidating operations or parts of operations from the other counties into this current facility that they're not able to accommodate in their existing headquarters as well. And they also need to be prepared for growth in the market. Woods and Pools Economics, a national economics firm, projects between 2025 and 2060, total personal income is going to grow in the 13-county region and even a much higher percentage within Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach County. It's going to grow by 2.3 times. The best measure of overall economic growth, growth regional product, will also grow by 2.3 times. And if you look at it, that is almost double the amount of growth on an annual basis than between 1971 to 2024. And the reason for that is the basis, that the baseline is so much higher than it was back over the past several years. I know the four minutes are up, but I think this is important. 30 seconds? Just to wrap up. Yeah, you've got 30 seconds. Yeah, in the context, so in that context, needing to build 2.8 more times of indoor space for the first phase and having three times the outdoor space to accommodate that consolidation is critical to the company's future. And given the history of this company, which extends beyond 90 years, having the opportunity to build more than that as the company continues to grow and the market continues to grow is central to their business plan and operation and the health of it going into the future. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Lambert. I'm going to start with the mayor this time around, and then we'll come back to the county commission. But, Madam Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to Mr. Kelly and to all those working with you. Obviously, you're a wonderful company and you've done a great job. I want to back up and just talk about the CDMP, Community Development Master Plan. It's a county policy that guides our growth. And the policy lays out a number of factors to be considered in deciding when, where, and how to grow. And a needs assessment is one component in determining whether we should allow growth outside the urban development boundary. And ultimately, the decisions that are made require a balancing of many factors. As to the determination of needs specifically, which we have an initial presentation we received on Saturday from Mr. Lambert and the team, the quantitative portions are essential, but so are the qualitative quality of life impacts. And in the end, the facts that have been presented thus far and review of other considerations, I do not believe have provided an adequate case for the project of this size outside the urban development boundary, even though a portion is within the urban expansion area. And I do want to make that point. The company has not demonstrated through expansion or limited existing capacity the need to triple the size of their current footprint after we have not seen any substantial change in the use of their existing site in 40 years. And we've not received yet anything that's clear and persuasive on the need for expansion, although this is clearly a successful and growing company that provides valuable services. And we recognize the great work that the company and its dedicated employees provide to the community. We did receive this additional information on Saturday and on first reading of it, because we did work throughout the weekend to review it, we still do not believe that it has been adequately demonstrated that the required need for the expansion exists. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Garcia. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have a question on process, if that's okay, if I may, because on the item itself, and I appreciate the mayor's comments, I know we've been talking about the issue of the tax amendments and so forth. To the county attorney's office, if we were to have them reapplied through the regular channels, what would be that process? Would that process, can that process be expedited? Because obviously there's been a lot of money and time that has been put into this, and I think some of the commissioners here may have an issue with the process of the tax amendment, correct? How would that process, Mr. Chairman, how would that process look if we could try to expedite through the other... But, Senator Garcia, and I think you're asking a very valid question. I still have... I answered that question, but how would that change anything, right? And not to mention, like, even if we were to make a decision today, Senator, because I'm following what you're saying, but as a small business owner myself, even if we were to make a decision today, and I don't know that we would, but to waive all fees, to apply as an expedite, I mean, the fees that they're spending as a business in their team and their lawyers, I mean, we have to be cognizant of that and be sensitive to that. We're becoming a burden to business, so it's easy for all of us, and I'm not saying, I'm not calling anybody out, but it's easy for all of us to get a microphone and talk about how we're business friendly and we're small business friendly and we're medium business friendly and we're, you know, Florida's open, Miami-Dade County is open for business and we're doing all these programs. This isn't at you, by the way, Senator. I'm piggybacking on your question, but then we make these decisions and I do thank you for trying to at least find a solution to this. You're trying to give this some solution, but, you know, we're not, even if we were to waive our fees and expedite it, the amount of tens of thousands of dollars that goes into just even an application that they've done the right way, that they did based on what they were asked to do, that they did based on what the neighbors did, like, they didn't do anything, they followed what they had to follow, what they were told to follow. So, that is my concern with, like, if the votes aren't there, the votes aren't there. I mean, it's not fine for them, but it's the decision of this body, but it's just like, we've got to stop burdening these, you know, this extra two weeks that we gave them or a week and a half, whatever it was, I mean, that cost, tractor, Kelly Tractor's money, just that week and a half cost them, those guys sitting up there very, I know I complimented one of their lawyers a few months back because they're so good, but, you know, their billable rate, and I'm keeping you in business, my friend, but that's not my job, right? It's like, that's costing them tens of thousands of dollars just in a week and a half. If we now have them go reapply, it takes another few months or a month and a half, two months, three months, that's tens of, I mean, it's just not, we can't talk out of both sides of our mouth. You're not doing that. I'm certainly not, but we can't, we've got to make a decision, you know, as to, you know, but go ahead. I didn't mean to steal that question, but I think we're on the same page. Chairman, you had the prerogative? No, I think we're on the same page with it. And I appreciate you for your comments. The reason that I ask those questions is because you feel the sentiment sometimes of the Board of County Commission, and I think I know where we may or may not, but I think we know where we may be, and I think what I've heard from the advocates and what I've heard from folks on the County Commission is that they felt a little consternation with the process of the text amendment, right? That's the last one because for me, I want to thank Kelly Tractor because you guys did what I asked, and that was making sure that we address the mayor's concerns in the memo with the 60 acres. I don't want to be a hypocrite up here. You guys, some of my friends out there know how I feel about the line issues, but yes, the text amendment may be, the private use of the text amendment may be a little difficult for some people to accept up here. So this is why, Mr. Chairman, if I can, if the county attorney's office can ask what that process will look like to try to give them some stability, I guess, or time frames so that we can either go down that path or just take the vote up or down here now. Through the chair. Senator, there is an existing process for expedited CDMP applications. If, for example, Kelly Tractor were to apply for a UDB application, you know, that is something that they could do. There is, and there are, however, in the code, and this is by ordinance, certain application time frames. If you can give us just a moment, I would like to just look at those because there's certain, in general, UDB applications are submitted. I believe it's on every two years. No, no, Mr. Chairman, I just wait for the attorneys to come back with that information. And again, I understand the money that has been invested, and I understand. I'm trying to come to a happy medium here where we preserve the use of the Texas Amendment along with, you know, understanding that the wetlands were preserved, 60 acres were given back to the county, and understanding that the general business in that area is high impact, especially when we talk, we look at the north, to the north of Kelly Tractor, you have the rock miners, and this is where I'm trying to see if we can land this and try to move this forward in one way that will really, you know, one, help one of the longest employers in our community, and two, minimize the impact to our environment, and three, trying to preserve the use of the UDB. So this is where I'm trying to get to, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Thank you, Senator. Commissioner Gilbert. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm completely not surprised by the administration's position. They have been uniquely consistent about, like, they're not going to change in this, and I didn't think deferring. The only reason I was okay with the deferral was because the day has said that more information and a more expanded needs analysis might help us in getting through this application. When the time comes, if no one else wants to make it, I'll make the motion to approve. Oh, okay, JC's going to make it, and I'll second it. It's his district. I'll second it when his time comes, but because I've been uniquely consistent also. Easy devil. So, but I believe I did the count in my head the last time. I did not take notes. I'm trying to remember. We were just waiting to hear from Commissioner Regalado on this. If she was willing to, if she had gotten the information that she needed, and so if she got the information she needed if it's consistent, then it is. We don't have to prolong this or belabor this with another. We've talked about this stuff a lot at this point. So, you know, that's what I need from the chair. If I could ask my colleague, did you get what you need? Like, that's all I need to know. Commissioner Regalado, you're recognized. Thank you. I appreciate the protagonism. So, I want to say that first, I said when we when we said it for today that it was going to be tight and it was tight. We got this like late Sunday. So, you know, going through it, I haven't been able to meet with staff about it. I went through it. I have my notes. I have my questions. You know, I would prefer if we had more time, I would request more time. But let me ask them some questions on the record because I think that there is in there is information here and clarifications that can make staff and the mayor feel better. I just think it's not all here. So, here are my questions. So, if you can answer them. Come on up. I know you've been working 24-7 on this. I will entertain the Evan Floyd Q&A. Thank you. Okay. So, first of all, I want to thank you for the different information that we were given on the projects. You know, the Everglades restoration, the natural disaster, the mining, you know, the private contract that the FDOT, that's all great. You start with a comparison of Boeing and you talk about Kelly and Caterpillar. And one of the issues that staff has is you've had this property for all of this time. Why haven't you expanded it? That seems to be the current situation because we've explained in the needs assessment a lot. So, last night, I had to do a lot of research on Caterpillar, which I wasn't happy to do, but here we are. Because while you mention the cat comparison and then you also talk about the exclusivity, it's important to note that not mentioned in here, which might help us answer some of these questions, is that you don't, when you start talking about Caterpillar's history, Caterpillar doesn't really start, you know, cooking with gas until like 1977, right? That's when they start their high drive design. Then you have in 1985, you have a backhoe loader, right, that changes the industry. In 1986, you have another change. In 1998, is when they start the line of compact construction equipment, which really starts changing the game, right? Then when you get to 2000, between the year 2000 and now, you have 23 acquisitions. Those 23 acquisitions is what provides value to Kelly's exclusivity agreement because you had so much more competition in the field. So you start closing the gap on who can do this and you also start changing the type of equipment that you have. So when you get to 2022 is when you have your first battery electric truck, right? And then this doesn't even speak to, I couldn't find any information on the history of the generators. But if you can speak to the change in the equipment and the use of it, because staff is saying, look, nothing has happened in 40 years, but Caterpillar has changed dramatically in the last 20 years. So can you give me some information on that and the forecast and how that changes the analysis? Sure. And I do think some of these questions may be better answered by Mr. Kelly himself, you know, given the fact that he's been with us so long and, you know, we're just analysts. But take your last point, Commissioner, which is the 2002 change, the batteries, for example. That really hasn't taken, effectively hasn't been rolled out to any extent yet. That's something that's going to be going forward is going to be a core change in the industry. But in that case, in particular, batteries are very sensitive. They can't be stored. These advanced batteries can't be stored outdoors, for example. Which goes to the inside, outside part that you mentioned later on. That's absolutely right, right? So the batteries themselves have to be stored indoors, oftentimes even in climate-controlled settings, not to take the Boeing airplane example too far, but, you know, it's the difference between an F-35 and a warthog, right? I mean, an A-10, in terms of their ability to, you know, how advanced they are and what the needs are. One is climate-controlled, one isn't. And so for all intents and purposes, those are core changes that are occurring as we speak. And I should point out, and I think the report does this, the fourth and seventh largest competitor to Kelly are two Chinese firms that are now, now their U.S. headquarters are in Georgia. The Chinese have much more advanced battery technology at this point than the U.S. And part of this is to make sure that Caterpillar, an American company, continues to keep its market share over time by being able to expand and hold its own for technology that's 2030, 2035 built as opposed to the past, to your point. And that's a big part of the change and the need as well. But in any case, those of you who have been out there know that the facilities that they have are obsolete right now. They will have to rebuild some way, somehow. There's no dock height loading. Everything's loaded on the ground. There's no climate control in any of the facilities. So there's a lot of need for change. And that is able to be done in a significant way on a newer campus, obviously, than trying to redevelop as they're operating on their existing campus, plus the need for expansion. So, wait, don't go anywhere. I got more stuff. All right. So I think that it needs to be amended to talk more about the CAT history and responding to the criticism by staff, right? I don't think there's been an analysis in here of what happened, how, you just mentioned it on the record, but obviously, what's changing. You do talk about the indoor-outdoor on page six and the footprint, but I think it's important to mention that more. My other question has to do with what happens with the other locations. So one of the things that's mentioned is this will allow a restructuring of all the locations, and the other locations are going to have different uses. I absolutely loved the information about the night trucks. I feel like we could have gone two more pages on the night trucks. I wish we had more information on that and the impact that it would have on the region, but just, if you can explain the changes to the different locations and the night trucks, because right now you're saying that the night trucks have a small fleet, but that if the Kelly Campus were to be redesigned, and I would assume also these different locations would be used differently, then you can expand the night trucks to the entire region, and what impact would that have on reducing congestion of moving all these vehicles during the day. And so the interesting part about that is, so as the report points out, in total, there's about 175 acres that Kelly owns across the entire region, right? We're talking about 150 acres here versus 175 acres if you look at all their facilities, extending to Lee County, Fort Pierce, and the list goes on, West Palm Beach. The issue that they have now is you're always going to have to have service and smaller equipment sales. You point out, that wasn't really until 1999, but you're going to have to have service and smaller equipment sales spread throughout the region. But the heavy equipment sales, which are now elsewhere, some of the storage, which is occurring in Lee County, or for that matter, in West Palm Beach, can be consolidated. And the reason why the storage is important is because while they're storing equipment, and many of you know from large construction projects with the county, right? Contractors mobilize, demobilize. They need places to store equipment in the meantime. And while that equipment is being stored, it allows Kelly to do restoration work, upgrading of electronics and other material, drivetrains, other things that are more modernized into that equipment. And that is done a lot more efficiently in Miami-Dade County than being spread throughout the entire region. The night truck, the big advantage is that you can now move that, once you have the facility that can actually do that work, you can move it fairly easily from Fort Pierce, or for that matter, Naples, to Miami fairly easily overnight. And so the company has set up this network of night vehicles when there's low traffic time to be able to do that. And it's cheaper, better, and you have more consolidation of investment and repair and very high level of maintenance within Miami than you would spread throughout the entire region. And it allows for that. What happens to the other sites? It all depends. I mean, maybe some of them are sold. Maybe some of them are expanded for smaller sales themselves. But it opens up a lot of optionality and also creates a very center point within Miami as the headquarters of this company. And last but not least, Commissioner, not to get into too much detail, but we talk about training a bit in the report. It is central to this company's ethos and their DNA to do training for operators. And why? Because it's smart. It keeps the customers very close because they're trained just like Boeing. They're trained on equipment that is unique and systems that are unique to the company. And all of that now, if you have the new facility, will be able to happen on site. You can't do that currently. They don't have the facilities. And so there's a lot of reasons why this will allow the deregionalization back to the headquarters in a different way. And just to add to that before we move on to the generators, obviously that is also contingent on the highway access, right? Because we can't do this without highway access. Absolutely. The generators are key. As I said, there's about 100, currently at any given time, about 110 megawatts, which is a midsize FPL power plant. Well, maybe for FPL, it's on the smaller side. But for a normal utility, a power plant size generating capacity on the site. So in the case of emergencies otherwise, that can get deployed very easily if you have highway access throughout the region. Kelly Cat has 90% of the healthcare market as one industry by way of example. So Baptist, Jackson, all rely on Kelly generators in times of need when the power system is down. And Kelly deploys their technicians within the region. So it's obviously, it's somewhat selfish for us that live in Miami-Dade County, but it's better to have as much of that capacity in the county as opposed to being spread throughout the entire region. I agree. The other part about the generators, there was no mention. I guess it's kind of like assumed, but there are, it really is about state compliance, right? So it's about disaster recovery, but it's also about state compliance. So what is the alternative, like as the population, because we talk about the population growth, and there is a correlation between the building and the population growth, but on the generator side, like as Miami-Dade County continues to change and continues to have like a greater need, how is that tied to the footprint? Because the generators kind of like put in there with like everything else, but it's such a large part of the disaster recovery piece. I mean, and everyone knows what happens in New Orleans, like what happens when the hospitals don't have generators and people have to make very difficult choices. It's one thing for us like to be put in a difficult situation and have to like cook in the barbecue and be hot and figure it out. It's a completely different thing, you know, when hospitals and nursing homes and, you know, ALS don't have power. And I wish that that would have been kind of like separated out a little bit. I know that you guys kind of threw it all in there with emergency response, but for me, that's a very different conversation. So the question is, as we continue to grow from a population perspective in that direction, what do you need? What does Kelly need on this site to make that happen and available at the rate that we are accustomed to at this moment? Right. And of course, you don't have to go as far as New Orleans. Look at in Hollywood, right, in Broward County, that horrible tragedy in terms of the ALF or the nursing home several years ago. But the reality is that particularly the generators are built to operate outside. And so Kelly needs more, they'll need more land as the region grows, more land to be able to support more generators. I think an important factor that we haven't talked about but is kind of briefly mentioned in the report, it's not in detail, is Kelly maintains a fleet also of fuel trucks to service the generators during periods of downtime. And the reason is because as we've seen, the refueling at Port Everglades, for example, sometimes often is not being done, it goes down. And so Kelly actually has its own pumps and its own trucks to be able to deliver to its customers fuel in times of when there's real need in terms of for the generators. Because of course, the generators only have capacity for 48 to 72 hours, well, even less, 48 to 36 hours, 36 to 48 hours of time before they have to be refueled. And so Kelly does that with their own fuel trucks and their own fuel tanks. Obviously, having an expansive site like this allows that to be able to dramatically be increased at an exponential scale as opposed to just kind of limited amounts as well. So if that answers your question. Yeah. Okay. Another question. In terms of the phasing and the expansion, because I think one of the issues that's left is how large the application is. And I understand that the reason for the size of it is because you want, since you've already gone through this process, right, you want to be able to plan for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, right? And you can't really do that without encompassing the entire land. However, that being said, understand the concern, right, that you're saying, you know, and that's why I wish that there would have been a better explanation of the cat to kind of dispel this idea of you haven't really grown, right, in 30, 40 years. Because I think the industry is changing. And to our conversation about the batteries, I think if you don't have a place to put them, you will be taken out as a competitor. I don't think you can be competitive without the indoor area to facilitate the storing of the batteries that are now becoming the norm. My personal opinion, not an expert, right? But so in terms of the phasing, what, how can we craft it? I mean, obviously, we don't want to say you have to like come back to the, you know, to the Board of County Commissioners because this is a grueling process. But at the same time, I wish that there was a way that we could say if your growth hasn't met this benchmark, then you cannot expand to the next, to the next phase. And if you are going to, then you have to come back. So is there, I guess to the attorneys, is there any way to craft this? And the question is going to be how do you, you know, how do you enforce it, right? How do you enforce it? Because I think one of the issues that we have right now is that conundrum, is the amount of expansion in this one point to the Commissioner's point about the tax amendment. And I will say this about the tax amendment. I have drafted the item. We're just waiting on a few more things, but it will be on the next BCC, the changes to the tax amendment. So this idea of, like, we're going to have this free-for-all and we're going to have all these tax amendments, you know, we got to drafting and I think that we close this door soon. And I think that we should actually put a pin in the applications that involve tax amendments until we're finalized with that process. But to the attorneys, is there anything that we could do in terms of the phasing so that it's not just kind of, you know, it's not so expansive? I mean, since it is being broken down in phases, could this also, like, from a CDMP perspective, like, also open in phases? I guess to the two of you, right? Yeah. Who wants to take it first? Abby? Through the chair. Commissioner, and the applicant's attorney may have other ideas, but I think if this board has concerns related to the phasing, that's something that could be part of a proffered covenant. And, Commissioner, we have to go through the zoning process and in conversations with zoning staff, it is contemplated that we would probably, we could do this through a development agreement where we have set phases of the site plan that that could also be another mechanism that we can go through. I know, but that's in the zoning process. That's not now. I mean, you know, my question is, like, what can be done now? Commissioner, we do have a covenant from the applicant. I'm not, I don't recall if there's, if there are, I think, you know, certain restrictions related to phasing in that covenant, but depending on what the board may wish to see, I think those are certain things that could potentially be added into the CDMP covenant. Thoughts? We would have to revisit the way that it's drafted in the covenant now. It's, it's tied to a conceptual site plan, so we'll have to regroup to see what the appropriate timing could be for phases and include that in the covenant. But the conceptual site plan has currently, right, about a million one of indoor space and then another 200,000 of covered areas so that are not, not, doesn't have four walls but is in there. So, and the application is for 2.7 million, given the fact that, right, over time, there's going to be, and batteries are a good example, not really in there. So there is, there is clearly going to be some phasing going on with, with this over time, but, but, but at, at clearly there's, there's at least a million one plus the covered areas that need to, need to be part of that, that first, that first phase. I need the phasing to be in the covenant. I mean, I understand that we're going to do it in zoning later, but my, my issue now is with the size of the application. I feel like we've answered, again, I wish that the business plan covered a lot of what we've covered here verbally. I, I, I think you buried the lead with the, with the batteries, but I get it. It was a super fast, fast job and I appreciate that. We really haven't had a lot of time to discuss it and I think if we would have had more time, we could have flushed it out more. But I, I think that there needs to be a better understanding of the generators and the batteries and all, all these different things because these are public policy priorities. So, I think, you know, the, the, the, we, we kind of threw everything in the bucket, right? And we're talking about, you know, FDOT and, you know, mining and this and that and, and that's, that's all important and it all helps the economy. But there are components of this that are directly tied to emergency management, you know, and national, you know, natural disaster recovery that are very, very different conversation from the rest of it. So, I think as policy makers, I think we have to kind of separate that bucket and, and have that conversation and prioritize that. So, and the same thing with the, with the night trucks and the, and the congestion. I mean, I think that we could really, you know, have a positive impact on traffic congestion. And I think that that's a commitment that, you know, we would also like to see when is that gonna, when is that gonna be a reality? Right? When are we gonna be able to move all these things at night? Because for, for us as we sit up here, being able to alleviate traffic congestion, you know, in this manner is beneficial. So, I think that that's also something that I would like some more information on or some sort of covenant on. And then also have you submit more information on Caterpillar and their history just as an addendum. So, if we could kind of capture all of this so that it could all be part of the application and it isn't just DICTA. And then returning to the wetland covenant, I, I, the only change that I would make to that wetland covenant, I think it was very well done. I think, you know, what we presented down to the wildlife corridor was very, very good. but I do want EO to manage it if possible and, and for Kelly to pay EO for that management. We don't want it to be an unfunded mandate to EO. So, is that something a developer would agree to? Yes. Okay. Commissioner. Yes. Through the chair, if I could ask the question. If you're getting what you need to support the item and all of these things have to go into covenant, I'm just doing the rough math in my head from the last meeting. And so, assuming that you get what you need to support the item, we would still need to come back the next meeting because the vice chairman had to step away. So, there still wouldn't be. So, let me just suggest that if, once we get through and agree to everything that's going to be in the covenant, get the stuff in the covenant and then defer the item. I'm happy to do that. I'm happy to do that. Thank you. Mr. Chair, I'd like to say my piece if I may. Okay. Thank you. You know, today, sitting here today, I'm reminded why Reagan was so right when he said the scariest words are I'm from the government and I'm here to help you. Unbelievable. I'm fine. Commissioner Gilbert was so correct where he said we're going to be back at the same place. And I hope another deferral, another artificial intelligence evaluation, James and Charles Deering, James and Charles Deering, Vizcaya and Deering Estate wouldn't be here, by the way, had we been around at that time and the staff had been around here at that time and the people that I see lobbying constantly had been around at that time. I support Commissioner Regalado on the text amendment issue moving forward but, you know, we voted on another text amendment, 12-2-0. I remind Senator Garcia that we voted on that on a property very close to this. But anyways, I'm willing, if it's the will of this body and I do agree with Commissioner Gilbert that, you know, if you want to make sure you put everything in the covenant, it's fine. But I don't think we should be playing business people with business people that have been around 92 years, number one. And number two, the mayor is not going to change her position. She is just going to move it again. The staff, I see Lord is back there looking up. They're not changing their position. They're just not going to do it. There's going to be lobbied by a bunch of people that they believe or they want to make them happy or they just believe or they agree with them, whatever. they're not going to change their position. So the only thing I remind everybody, Mr. Chairman, and I think you're on point, let's stop telling businesses moving forward to come to our county if every time we're going to tell them how to run their business and this is the same county that grease traps. We're telling people that don't even have restaurants, they're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars. We're it's ridiculous. And then, you know, it's always pass the buck, pass the buck, pass the buck, make the excuse, make the excuse. People getting the can't even people who are people who are getting permitting through private providers that, by the way, have to meet the same standard that this glorious staff we have, you know, we're telling them, no, that's not good enough. We've got to come back and double check the work that we've if we are going to argue and I and I've I know Commissioner Gilbert and I share this and many of you do that government should try to be can't be all the time, but you try to be efficient as proficient because time is money for businesses, small and large and intermediate. Then impediment number one, impediment number two. You know, I'm telling you, Charles Deering, James Deering, Ronald Reagan, they're all rolling in their graves today if they're watching this meeting because I mean, I'll do whatever the will of this body is if in fact, because she's just going to, you know, the mayor is going to veto it. Anyways, I hate to tell you that. It's today. It's May 19th. It's June 2nd. It doesn't I don't care. Do it on July 4th so we can try to get some inspirational feeling for America. It's still going to be the same thing. So I don't I appreciate that you're doing the counting. And if we need to do that, that'll be fine, too. And if the applicant feels that another bite at the apple, by the time we're going to finish, there's no apple. But, you know, it's I just think we're kicking beating a dead horse. And every time we come here, something else is asked. Something else is asked. Something else is asked. And I was I will say this. We are not here to tell people how to run their business. We are here, I believe, to help the businesses be efficient and effective and the health, safety and welfare of our community. Somehow in this whole discussion in this county, it's it's been I don't know, it's been lost. So I agree with you, Mr. Chairman, that if we can if we continue to have and maybe it should have been told, no, don't do it through a test amendment. But they weren't. So now we're here. Maybe in the future, other entities and maybe this one, you know, it will talk. But we just we approve one just to the south. OK, well, unanimously, I want to remind everybody, you know, so it's let's I mean, unless because if I love Commissioner Regalado she's asked some great questions, even though Charles and James are rolling in their grave, the question is, will that be enough? Will that be in the supposed documents that, you know, our lawyers who, by the way, also don't run a business or, you know, the administration that also doesn't run a business? Will that be enough to satisfy the queries of everybody up here? Or will we have another moving at that point? And it doesn't have to be Commissioner Regalado. It could be the mayor's going to say, well, you know, I don't like that because I know there'll be other people that'll come and say, you know, well, no, that's not enough for me because they're just not going to change their point of view. So at some point, we've got to make a decision. OK, I'm ready to make a decision today, but I respect my colleague. And if, in fact, there's a feeling that she and the applicant can, they can satisfy her concerns, but I ask you not to do it on the 19th because you have to catch a flight and so does not me, but most of this body. And we're never going to get through it then either because we're going to hear it again. June 2nd. You know, so that's what I think. But I want to be clear, you know, we have to stop. Our role is to create the conditions. It's amazing to me that a county that takes a year to approve, to sign contracts that have been approved, a procurement department. But, you know, it's like, this is crazy. We sit here and then we say, okay, but, you know, no, we're not. We're not doing much to help businesses. Let's be honest. Let's just call it a day. But we're fast to tour their facilities and post photos, and I'm sure that we're all going to be at the ribbon cutting if this gets done. It'll be beautiful. But anyways, that's my say, and whatever, I don't know if the applicant feels, and it's up to you to decide, but the applicant feels that they can take care of Commissioner Reguilaro's concerns and Senator Garcia's concerns. But I will tell you, you know, at some point, we've got to make a decision on this thing one way or the other because if not, it doesn't matter what they do. We've been here four or five times, and four or five times, it's a new thing. It's a new thing. It's a new thing. Tomorrow will be the yellow-bellied sapsuckers. Yes, Lourdes. I said it. Yellow-bellied sapsuckers. That'll be the next thing or some bat. And they'll say, well, you know, now we've got the problem. So that's what it's going to be, okay? And there's people that are going straight. They're using it. There's people on bikes, on three-wheelers in that area, and none of the residents, by the way, in the area have complained, but, you know, it is what it is. So that's, you know, Ronald Reagan, wherever you're at, please bring a beam of light down to us. All right. I'm going to recognize for one question Cohen-Higgins, but then I'd like to, are you willing to do the motion already? Yes. Okay, so Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, you're recognized for a question, and then, yeah, I think that's where we're at. So my question is based on what I'm reading, which seems like it's another deferral. So my question is a procedural one to our attorneys. This being a CDMP application, does that rule get triggered that speaks to the number of deferrals of CDMP applications, and what happens if that number hits? Because I believe we are in that realm at this juncture. I don't know the number of times this has been deferred, but I believe it's enough to trigger that rule. So can you please educate and inform me on whether or not a deferral today triggers the rule that I can't remember specifically, but I believe that you all know what it is that I'm referencing. You're recognized. Yes, through the chair. Commissioner, the UDB-related amendments as defined per the ordinance that you're referencing does not include this item because this is a text amendment as has been discussed. All right, awesome. Commissioner Regulato, you're recognized for... So I appreciate, Commissioner Bermude, is your heart to love. I'm just... That's all I'm going to say. Should I say ditto? Yeah, it's your heart to love. Man, that was better than what I was thinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tough. It's tough. But look, I think we're like 90% there. You know, I think we're 90% there. And again, the fact that this is taking years, I'm not the mayor and I'm not the administration. When this was presented to us, I have tried expeditiously to resolve my concerns and they have responded as quickly as humanly possible also. So in a very short period of time, we have done a lot, which isn't required by the text amendment, but we're trying to get comfortable with the text amendment. So I don't think you paint it, you know, so broadly because I've put in a lot of time and trying to get to a place where this doesn't set a bad precedent. And I think they've been put in a difficult situation because there has been a shifting of conversations, but I've never moved the goalposts. I've always said, you know, we need to meet these things and I've done everything that I can to try to get us there. I think this is a unique application and I think it's a unique company that provides a unique service. So I feel comfortable in finding a solution that not only provides them with what they need to continue to be successful, but they are also our partner. It's not a black and white business transaction. They are not just a developer that's building a thing that has nothing to do with us. They are the people that we rely on in order to do the work that we do. So it's a unique situation in that sense. I can't speak for the mayor or for staff, but I think that we can close the gap and you could probably close the gap with Renee Garcia too, you know, with Senator Garcia. I mean, I think we can close the gap and I think the fact that we're going to bring the item to deal with the tax amendment at our next BCC also eliminates another issue as to the precedent that this will be bringing. So I request a deferral because I think we can solve the problem, not because I'm kicking the can because I'm not a kick the can kind of person. All right. So let's entertain a deferral to June 2nd, not the next to June 2nd. We have a deferral by Commissioner Regalado, a second by Commissioner Bermudez. I'll second it, but I want to put the hold on the use of the word I as we move forward on this board, okay? Just to be clear. All right. Show the record reflecting that Commissioner Bermudez has a hold on the word I. All right. I will not use I any longer after this meeting. I will use we or they or her or he or she, them, whatever it is that we're going to. All in favor of the deferral signify by saying I. All opposed nay. Show the item deferred. All right. Thank you. All righty. Please exit quietly to all of the fraction of the 1,300 employees that they will be employing at this new facility. Yep. That's not happening. All right, Sergeant, can you help me out? Sergeants. All right. Madam Attorney, can we move into the pool list at this time? Yes, Mr. Chair. All right. Point of inquiry to the chair. Sure. Are there people who want to release pools? That's a good question. I'll take that. If there's anyone that would like to release their pools, just release them. I only have a comment on the one that I. Okay, well then. Okay, we're going to go through the. Like everybody has a. Are you just going to release or you have a little. I'm releasing AP7. AP7 is released. AP7. Okay. All right. Everybody follow along. We're going to try to do quickly here as quick as we can and as quick as you all don't speak much. That is not to be confused by the fact that I do want you to speak but just limited and concise. It's 2B3. Commissioner from District 13. You're recognized. Mr. Chairman, yes, this is has to do with the electronic submission of registering our pets and this is part of the report. Madam Mayor, quick question. When do we think that this will be actually implemented to ensure that our residents who have our pet owners will be able to access these services online? Thank you through the chair. Thank you, Senator. And I'm asking Annette Jose, our director, to address the issue. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Chairman, Commissioners, Senator Garcia. Thank you for supporting this. this will be in the testing phase during May and June and we bar any issues we hope to implement mid-July to August latest. This is where we can register our pets online and so forth and pay for certain services? That's right. So you no longer have to go in person to Animal Services or mail a check. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I move the item. All right. Would you move also AP7 because it was released but we need to approve it? Senator Garcia? Yes, sir. I move it. Okay, so you move 2B3 and AP7, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor, signify by saying aye. All opposed, nay. On 2B4, Commissioner from District 6, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to thank our Aviation Department for, you know, I've been working with them over the last couple months to implement the Families on the Fly, which is a program that we try to bring to MIA so that families traveling with minors under 12 could use a dedicated line. You know, as we know, traveling with minors and children is complicated when you have strollers and lots of items to get through. So I think so far it has been a successful pilot program and I know that the airport is also working on getting a discount for the pre-check fees for those families. So I appreciate the airport working for that initiative and I look forward to receiving another update soon because we are trying to implement it in more lanes throughout the airport. I like that. All right. I'll entertain a motion. You move it? Yes, I'll move it. It's been moved by Commissioner Orbus, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. I'll oppose nay. All right. Let's go to 8 and 5. Commissioner from District 6, you're recognized yet again. Thank you. I had some questions on this because there are eliminations of bus routes and specifically District 6 is being impacted. So to the director, Mr. Chair, may I ask a question? Okay, thank you. Hi, Director Miller. How are you? So I see that there's two routes being removed in District 6, that it's 37 and 132. These were recommendations from the Better Bus Network from 2023? So part of this was modifications from the Better Bus Network. Yes. Okay. Because I wasn't briefed on these reductions in the district and specifically the one in Hialeah. We've had a lot of cuts to bus routes in Hialeah and I hear about this all the time when I visit the elderly residents that don't have cars. And so I know that there's not a lot of passengers on Route 132, but is there another route that they can take nearby? Because I get specific questions about these routes because these people don't have another way to get around. Yes, ma'am, and I apologize if we didn't directly come in and discuss this with you. I was under the impression that we discussed it with your team, but I apologize if that was not the case. Yes, with the elimination of 132, which has very low volumes, we actually have Route 36, which is the majority of the same route. The only thing that is eliminated is Hialeah Market Station for Tri-Rail, and we have under five passengers a day that actually use that particular stop. Okay, so I know that over the last couple years, various routes from Hialeah have been eliminated, so I'd like to just go over that with your department if possible. Happy to do so. And then the other one affects the airport area, which is 137. How many passengers ride that one right now? I don't have them. I'm sorry, 37. Okay, the 37. So that we're actually changing the headways that had been a 30-minute headway. We had moved it to a 15-minute headway. We realized that we wanted to move it back to a 30-minute headway as we are averaging fewer than 10 passengers a trip, which means the 15-minute headway is too much. Okay. Okay. Thank you for that. I appreciate it. No further questions. Chairman? Commissioner. Commissioner Steinberg and then Gilbert. Thank you. If I may, I just wanted to say and I would like the Transportation Director, if that's possible, to just stay. I noticed in this item, yes, it doesn't touch my district this time, but I do want to give some feedback really quickly because we are still getting some calls about the Better Bus Network changes. And one of the feedback that we have received is the 100 line is always, they consolidated so many lines into that route that we're having issues. because the buses are either over full, the timing of it is not working, and we need to do better as it relates to that. It's a very big route and it covers a few of our districts and it's a lifeline for many people and we really need to look at that, I think, and come up with some measures to make it a little bit more user-friendly. Thank you. Understood. Thank you. Commissioner Gilbert, you recognize. Director, do you have the number offhand? What percentage of each bus trip do we subsidize out of the general fund? The percent, I do know our fare box collection. Yeah, give me that. That's around 10 to 11 percent. So that means the general funds, approximately 89 to 90 percent is paid part of the general fund. And I only made this observation because I do also get the remarks in my district about bus routes and this doesn't affect me but apparently I'm the head of the transportation committee now and so we get these comments and I just want us to be cognizant of the fact that we have to start to look at transportation as a service and not something that we sell. And so, or something that we sell and not a service. Now one way allows us to in good conscience continue to subsidize and keep service the way it is or even expand it the other way requires us to actually raise transit fees because there are two basic ways that we're going to pay for transportation. It's going to be out of the general fund or it's going to be a user fee. One helps us absorb the cost as a community of something we know we need. We need people to be able to go to school and bus and seniors to get around and they can't pay the actual cost to that service. So I understand that that has to happen. But we can't have like this floating cognitive dissonance over what we're doing here because when the budget time comes back around we're going to complain about the Avalorum rate and we're going to complain about what probably needs to be a rate increase recommendation. We're going to complain about both of those things and then we're also going to ask for more service and that inconsistency is not an inconsistency that exists in the public. It's not even an inconsistency that exists in the administration. It is an inconsistency that exists on this board. We have to be consistent. If we want it to be want to expand stuff we've got to be willing to pay for it. And it just we have to do that. Otherwise we're going to find ourselves in these situations over and over again and having these conversations over and over again. I'll move this item. All right. Commissioner Gilbert moves the item seconded by Commissioner Commissioner Regalado. All right. All in favor signified by saying aye. All opposed nay. 8P3 Commissioner from District 4 you're recognized. Thank you. Okay. This was more of a comment regarding I'm seeing more and more and I spoke to staff about this briefly where a lot of the procurement items as it relates to IT and technology we keep having issues with. and so I don't know if what the answer is right and I think we need to start thinking prospectively as technologies change and different uses of technology are entered into the fabric of what we do how we look to procure that and what makes the most sense because right now we're going to be ratifying an emergency contract not because we weren't proactive in being out there and trying to procure. It's not that's not the reason. The reason is and I would like to please for a moment have Namita come up so she can explain the reason why we have to approve this but I think it begs the bigger question. We even had another one that we had to reject all bids because we had an issue and it really always falls in this technological lane and so I think we need to maybe fine tune what we're doing and how we're doing it so that we're speaking the same language as the technology world when we're doing these procurements. Yeah, you're right. All right, Namita. You got the floor. Give it to us. See if we can fix this now in the strip committee. I'm going to come back with these several items we've got to do now. Thank you, Chair Namita Upal. Commissioner, great question. You're absolutely right. This is not a result of staff not being proactive but that's the nature of the whole technology. Once you get invested in any system or legacy, once it becomes a legacy, you are at the mercy of these companies and whether it's CAIDMS this time or Microsoft, I'll be bringing an item from Microsoft where we try to do everything possible in our control to make sure we have a timely contract but I know Director Olazobal is working very hard with his team to come up with a plan and also getting us out of the legacy systems as we have more budgetary freedom so I'll turn it over to the Director. Director. Yeah, so as Namita mentioned, this is a legacy product that probably goes back almost 30 years. Director, do you want to start by saying your name and stuff? I don't know. I apologize. Director George Olazobal, CITD, through the Chair. As Namita mentioned, this is a product that has been part of our technology backbone for many years and we are in the process of analyzing a multitude of products that constitute part of our technical debt and modernization and this is one of the products that we are going to be looking at. It's very much engraved into the ecosystem that we have, an ecosystem that's built over 30 plus years in technology so it's not something that we can just do a lift and shift on. Okay. Steinberg, you're done? Who had the floor? You done? Yeah. It was just bringing it to the attention so that we can think about it, be mindful as we move forward. Were you on cue or you just raised your hand? You were on cue, right? Okay, so it's you and then Lopez. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I agree, Commissioner Steinberg, it's something we ought to be looking at. I think I was on a panel last week with the Mayor and we talked about procurement and I really think that we ought to be, as we procure IT, exclusively doing agnostic technology. And I say that because, and this is no, I have no ill intent towards Microsoft or any of the legacy systems. I'm sure that their business model works for them, but their business model is clearly to lock us in and to make it so expensive for us to change that we've essentially lost all our deliberative authority because they know that if they can charge us, if it's going to cost $20 million, they just got to do $15, even though there might be something better. And the way that technology is changing now, how fast is changing, with the advent of, you know, AI and all these things, that we need to be in short-term deals with agnostic technologies, things that can come in and out. And the challenge is that that's going to be more on the front end in some ways, but it's really being penny wise and pound foolish. And I don't blame the administration or procurement about this because they hear, you know, they can read the tea leaves. They understand we don't have a lot of money and we're trying to spend as little as possible. But at some point, we're going to have to actually spend the money to get out of the system. Getting out of the system will save the county money long term. It just costs more initially. And so if we never bite that bullet, we trap us in this cycle of continuing to pay more and continuing to be trapped in legacy systems that might not be, you know, in our best interest. And if they are, then let's let the competition figure that out. But the competition shouldn't be weighed on. You're here. And so because you're the person who's here and you have it now, we're predisposed to giving it to you again. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All right. Just two seconds. Commissioner Lopez, let me ask a question as well. I have a question just because I'm and I could ask this offline, but I I'm committed to being here. I got nothing else for the day. We're ratifying this contract, right? So it's been executed. Let me ask a question. What happens if this body does not approve a ratification? This and I'm asking for another item that it was mentioned to me in procurement that I won't get into the detail and bore everybody. But on this item, what happens if we don't and I don't know that that's going to happen. I think this is a two year term. I think we needed it. I think you guys did the right decision. I just I want to know what happens when this body grants that authority authority to the administration to execute, which I think you should have, right? Because you need some sort of authority. I don't know if you need a, you know, a three million dollar or what it is. But what happens if we don't approve it? Is that to the attorneys? Maybe you want to answer? Like what happens if this has been signed, it's been executed and we're just ratifying it. What happens if this body decides not to approve the ratification of this contract? Take a stab, Eddie. The administration cannot go forward with the contract. All contracts for goods and services have termination for convenience provisions. So essentially be a directive to the to the administration to to exercise termination for convenience provision. All right. Fair enough. Commissioner Lopez, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So in keeping with Commissioner Steinberg's comments, the legislature actually had the same issues two years ago and the speaker created an IT committee simply because we were spending so much money. In many cases, we were purchasing software and we'd find it didn't work and it changed so rapidly that tech was changing so rapidly they would continue to purchase. So, for instance, just managing the fleet at the state, they had at least four softwares within 10 years. So we were like starting all over again, one by one. And I think the IT committee actually was very fruitful because what it found was that no one had ever really looked at it completely across the board. Every single agency, every piece of software and hardware being purchased. So I agree with you because as I see these things, I'm always taken back because I served on that committee for two years. It was so beneficial because we made different decisions that saved a great deal of money in the long term oftentimes because there was no more patchwork. Like no agency was coming to us saying, I want this and then the other one saying, but I want that. And then looking at the history of these legacy software programs or hardware, and then we found in other cases that they would buy hardware and not buy the software, the most updated software. So it didn't make any sense. So I think, you know, I just mentioned this to the chair because there may be a need to finally sit down and actually analyze all of this as a board. So those are just my comments that really worked at the state. And I don't see why it wouldn't work here at the county. I agree. All right. Commissioner Cohen-Ans. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And thank you to my colleagues for this conversation. The conversation is extremely timely. And Commissioner Steinberg, thank you for pulling the item. And Commissioner Gilbert, thank you for your comments. I'm wondering, though, Commissioner Gilbert, from your extensive experience in government, have you ever tackled an issue addressing the concern that you raised? And I don't pose it as a question to place you on the spot. I ask with authenticity because we are going to see an item that is coming to the airport committee that doubles down on exactly the opposite, which is give us greater authority, us meaning the administration, give us greater authority to continue with more legacy contracts at the airport because there's a greater level of convenience and a greater level of financial savings that would be yielded from, for example, when we build out Terminal K and or D60. The airport wants to utilize the same systems, the same software, the same services, as opposed to procuring it out to new professionals for continuity and for saving. So I bring that up because the item will be on the airport committee agenda in our next cycle. But if you're genuine and authentic in your interest in addressing this, I am as well. I think that what Commissioner Lopez has raised regarding addressing it via some sort of structure or body is not the worst idea because we continue to lock ourselves in to contracts with vendors who, frankly, they don't need us as a board because everything gets done administratively. We get asked to sign retroactively and massive, massive, massive dollars are being moved through our county right on a retroactive basis and with legacy contracts that are locked in. And so it's something that I'd be interested in working on. And if you want to have a discussion at airport committee, I invite you, please, to get into it. And I look forward to working with my colleagues on this issue. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right. Nomina. Thank you, Chair. Commissioner, I think all great points. Commissioner Gilbert, 95% of our dollar spend is on competitive contracts. 5% is still on legacy, non-competitive, overall, all of them. So I take very, I'm very proud of that accomplishment. And I know the mayor is continuously asking us, how can we further make it better? How can we make it better? But 95% of our contract dollars are on competitive contracts and 5% is on non-competitive. And I don't think we can ever, maybe a few years down the road, we can continue to work towards getting out of those 5% too. Mr. Chairman, I don't know if you can dig down with that number. Can you say what the 5%? What's that number? I believe it's total spend that we, the last I checked was three, three point something billion dollars a year, but it's not the awards. So you could say 5% of that. Mr. Chairman, and you can respond. Yeah, thank you so much because I think that's one of those comments that I've heard before is statistics. I love when people get percentages. I think it probably ignores the times when you actually do a competitive process and you end up picking the incumbent because the relationships that you have allow you to see what they do and you write the procurement that's unique specifically to what they do. And so I appreciate when you all do that, but I want you to know it's like, it's not like we don't know you do it. We do know you do it. So we can see solicitations that are clearly written to favor the people we do business with. And so when you say that they're competitive, in theory, they are competitive. That doesn't mean everybody can actually win them. Commissioner Bermudez and then Regalado. Yeah, I just have a question and I agree with all of your concerns, but I have a question of the largest law firm in Dade County. Termination language on these contracts because it was just mentioned. It's kind of important when we sign these contracts if in fact we want a viable out to make sure the termination clause is written in a form that gives us the benefit and the advantage. And that would be one of the things that I think then Mayor Gilbert, then Mayor Bermudez, then Commissioner Hardiman would have said. Oh yes, and maybe not on the beach, Commissioner Steinberg. But I think that one of the termination clauses have to be looked at also because in the end that's always the response. Well, we've got to look at the termination. Well, if we're going to go from A to Z, then let's make sure that we look at the, make sure that we do the right thing from the perspective of our attorney's office putting the language in there that protects us from A to Z when we do these procurements. Because other than that, I think we're going to be back in the same place. And I, you know, I, Namada, I love your use of stats. You're very good. But you know, statistics, many times, you know, a 300 hitter in baseball doesn't necessarily, it sounds real good, but sometimes it's not as effective as you think it is. So I just hope, I agree with all of you, including Commissioner Cohen-Higgins correctly points out that if we're going to be seeing that in other things, let's make sure we also look at, you know, what the language of those contracts are going to be. Because I, that's important. And I don't, listen, I don't, I don't work for this law firm, but they supposedly work for us, right? So, or the administration and us. Let's at least make sure that that language is included there when we look at these things. Thank you. I would just like to add that Commissioner Gilbert, when you, when you look at it, you also need to consider the underlying bias. The underlying bias is that there is a fiscal benefit to the consolidation of all services. And that was started prior to this administration and his, and it has been continued. And I don't think that that's the best thing for us because it doesn't allow us to have comparison. Now, if you need, if you need a system to communicate across the entire county, you know, like informs or something, yes, that makes sense because you're doing everything on that one platform. But something, um, as the general software, you could see a world where enterprise systems could have one type and non-enterprise could have another. And that way we can compare the uses and the price. Right now, we can't compare the uses and the price. We're just at the mercy of enormous contracts and we can't say this methodology produced a savings and this did not because we continue to move from this bias that there should be this centralization of everything. And I think that bias is what costs us money because time and time again, when you drill down to that bias, you find that if we decentralize these things so that they could have different systems, we could save a lot of money and then we could also compare to see what products are better. But I think the fact that we assume that everything has to be the same for every single department, irrespective of their use of that technology, is where we get into trouble financially. So we have a motion by who moved the item? Commissioner Gilbert moves the item. Commissioner Lopez second the item. All in favor signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. All right, 9A1. Commissioner from District 7, you're recognized. I just pulled this item because historically, veterinary services have been really expensive. And I know I've spoken to Namita about this in the past. I'm not necessarily against the item. I would just make a friendly amendment. Part of our problem is the lack of veterinarians. And I know in the past we talked about reaching out to UF and seeing if we could have some sort of pilot where we can use students, right? So just a little out of the box because now that insurance has entered the conversation for pets, veterinary services have skyrocketed and a lot of vets that used to take the county contract for spay and neuter, it's no longer fiscally important to them because they could do better things with their time, which is why we're seeing this dramatic shift in the cost of these services. So I think the market is changing and we might want to get a little creative even if that requires some state help in terms of doing a pilot so that we can have veterinary students or someone that's moving in that direction provide some of these services. Because if not, I mean the cost is going to keep going up and up and up and up because the demand keeps going up. and there seems to be no check on the pricing of that. So just friendly amendment. What's your amendment? To look at a pilot using students to do some of this work, I think we should try that. It's perfectly fine. Thank you. I'll move it as amended. It's been moved. It's as amended, seconded, by the commissioners that just moved it and seconded. Clerks got that? All in favor, signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Showed 9A1. Moved as amended. All right, 11A4, commissioner from District 13, you're recognized. Oh. Yep, spicy reggaeton. Robert Gilbert's rubbing off on me. They're not knowing where I am. See the way around, see the way around, see the way around. I get it, I get it, Commissioner Gilbert. Anyway, actually, I'm joking around, but this is a very serious issue. Members, May is Mental Health Awareness Month and the Behavioral Health Board has approved a mental health campaign or two campaigns. I provided the two different campaigns for you and also with an expenditure of $70,000 for the public awareness campaign that we're working on with the mayor as well. We know that stigma still seems to be a big issue when we deal with behavioral health and mental health issues and every community is affected no matter what zip code or area code you live in. Mental health is also an issue. So through the Behavioral Health Board and we authorize $70,000 but that $70,000 has to be approved by us as well and the County Commission and also approve the mental health awareness campaign that we have and I think, you know, we have two different campaigns and I'm going with the first campaign. I think that looks good. That's what that is. Commissioner Lopez, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Senator Garcia for spearheading this very important topic. I think I love concept number one. I think it's professionally done but I love the way you see more of the different types of people that are impacted by that. I don't think there's been a family that hasn't impacted by some sort of mental health issue, mine included, and so I am grateful to your leadership in mental health and look forward to supporting the campaign. Commissioner Bermude, is you recognized? I've got a question and certainly applaud the Senator for the effort but when you get to visit MiamiDade.gov, let's talk, what happens then? I mean, what does the person that is having these issues, is there somebody there that we pay or is there, what happens? What help do they get? Because it's great to have a campaign but if the end result is not some help, then it kind of beats the purpose. Yeah, actually, when you do hit the let's talk, there is a hotline that when someone is facing a crisis they call that number and through that crisis hotline they get referred to different providers in our communities, one, and two, they're talked through to make sure that if they're having a real serious crisis that they don't do something to commit harm to themselves. So that hotline has been active for quite some time here in Miami-Dade County and what we're trying to do is make sure that we bring awareness to those numbers and make sure that the people in this community know that there are services available to them. Okay. I mean, I think it's fine. It's a great, I applaud you. I just like eventually to know, I see your staff member obviously knows the entities that we use as a county and maybe she can give us a list of what they are because I know there's a number of different non-profits and for-profits that also help. But it's obviously a positive thing. I just want to make sure that people get the help. No, and it's not only my, but the chair, it's not only her that knows the list. She was just giving me the campaign, the slogan, the let's talk and the 988 number. That's all she was giving me. But there's a boatload of different organizations in this community. I'll make sure I get that to you. JCS, I think Jewish Community Centers is the one that runs the hotline itself, the 988 number, and they're the ones that are just taking the lead in ensuring that we try to provide the services to our community. So I will make sure that I'll get that out to everyone on the county commission. And what I do ask members when we get this campaign out, if you can help us getting the word out through your social media accounts and in your district, it's extremely important that all of us get involved and make sure that people understand that if we're doing this, there shouldn't be a stigma associated with this. So I don't know if anyone else from the county wants to speak to this. Mr. Chairman? Through the chair, Kathy Burgos. You got it, Kathy. Community Services Department. Senator Garcia stated perfectly. We are working closely with 2-1-1, with Jewish Family Services. And to his point, someone who is struggling will have all the information necessary according to their mental health needs. So it's an extremely important campaign. Thank you. All right. So we're good. We got a motion. We have a second by right. Is that where we're at? We have a motion by Senator Garcia, second by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor, signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. Show the item passed. All right. We are now on 11A8. Commissioner from District 8, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I pulled the item. It's my item. For an amendment, the administration needed additional time instead of 30 days. They requested 60 days. And I had a clarifying amendment on Section 1. So if the attorneys can read those amendments on Section 1 and Section 2 of 11A8, I'd greatly appreciate it. Please read the amendment. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins moves to amend Section 1 and 2 of Item 11A8 to change the time frame within which the county mayor or county mayor's designee must provide the reference report from 30 days to 60 days and to limit the fiscal intermediaries and agents listed in the report to those who charge a fee for services rendered. Therefore, on page 4, Sections 1, there will be a change to the first sentence that adds who charge a fee for services rendered. And in Section 2, the reference to 30 days will be to 60 days. Thank you. Thank you. I move 11A8. All right. It's been moved by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, seconded by Commissioner Orbis. Commissioner Regalado, you're a pulling commissioner as well. Oh, okay. All right. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. Show 11A8 passed. 11A9, Commissioner, from District 12, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'd just like to suggest a friendly amendment that we expand the scope to request that this report be countywide, not just District 4, even though I'm glad you took this initiative. I think we all have, and by the way, I'm not blaming the company. This is exactly why when we award a contract to get these things going, we and our staff has to be cooperative with whoever wins it. But I would, my friendly amendment, Commissioner Steinberg, would be that the report include all the districts, not just District 4, because I think if there's a problem in your district, it's probably a problem everywhere else, and if that's the case, we've got to get to the bottom of, because we actually, this came from a very controversial contract that we took back and gave a, voted unanimously to approve a new company to do it, and if they're having trouble getting information from our staff, I think we need to know it too. But that would be countywide, so that would be my friendly amendment, and I'd second you. If you accept it, then I'd second it. Yeah, if I may? Yeah, you may, Commissioner Steinberg. I have no problem with that. Just to give you some background, this item was put on probably my first meeting as a county commissioner, so this is not to do with any one specific company or anything of that nature. This was really trying to make sure that we're on top of it. Now, we understand the signalization is just a piece of the puzzle. It's not a panacea. We understand that, but we also need to make sure that it does, it's another tool in the toolbox, as we say, and so we want to make sure that everything's functioning optimally. And so we've noticed in my district there have been some issues in terms of the delays in getting some of the signalization done, so I just wanted a standing report every couple of years to make sure we are truly not, you know, letting go of the initiatives that we had set forth originally. And I'm happy to include it for everybody, but that was the intent of the item originally. So, yeah, I move it as amended. All right, it's been moved as amended. It's seconded by Commissioner Regalado, and then you have the floor. Thank you. I just think, and I think it's a good idea, I know that in some of our districts there's issue with the existing infrastructure. So there's the signalization and the software, but then there's the existing infrastructure, and if the light is grounded or not grounded, and there was like a lot of time spent on that. And then there's a third issue in the South where they keep stealing the wires. There's like a whole thing about like stealing the infrastructure. Yeah, so it's, yeah, it's so, and by the way, every time it comes up, I wish we would just for once and for all like decide, like do we need cameras? Like what's the plan other than telling us that it's been stolen once, twice, you know, three times. I think it's a little frustrating for us. So the only thing that I would add is to just give them flexibility to be able to come back with some of those issues. If those are the issues, right? So just explain to us what the issues are. Commissioner Steinberg. Yeah, and I will say to that, some of the issues for our broken loops, which is for those who don't understand, it's that plate that's underneath and the car pulls up and it triggers when the light should change, if it's on a sensor. And some of our systems are actually being moved to the smart system, which is a whole other conversation. But for today's purposes, you know, some of the faulty signalization is also done to construction projects and other things, whether it's utility companies or private developers or what have you that damage the loops. And so it's a matter of us also trying to investigate how did this get broken? What is the issue? How do we get? So I just want us to have a more streamlined approach and a faster way to just get the results because people don't care whose responsibility it is. They just want to know that it gets done and gets fixed. All right. So it's been moved. It's been seconded by Commissioner Regalado. All in favor, signify by saying aye. All oppose, nay. Show the item passed. I have a motion. Can the attorney read my motion, please? Or I can read it if you don't have it in front of you. All right. And 1189 was as amended. Yes, as amended. Mr. Chair, we're talking about the CARE MIA board? Yes, sir. Certainly. Pursuing to section 2-11.38E4 of the Code of Miami-Dade County, which limits a person's ability to serve on more than two county boards simultaneously unless the Board of County Commissioners has approved the appointment by unanimous vote after being advised of all of the county boards upon which the person sits. Chairman Rodriguez moves to appoint to the CARE MIA advisory board, Ms. Zaba St. George Castro, who currently sits on the Adrian Arsh Center Trust and the Miami-Dade County Cultural Affairs Council. And Mr. Chair, as a reminder, the motion requires unanimous vote. All right. I ask Orbis to move it for me since I'm chairing. I'll move it. Seconded by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Commissioner Hardiman, you're recognized. Is this from the vote that we just took? I'm sorry? Is this from the vote that we just took? No, this is to a point to the CARE's MIA advisory board, but this person serves on two other county boards and you're only allowed to serve on two. Otherwise, you need to have a unanimous vote from the board. A unanimous vote? You could only serve on two. Anything more than two needs a unanimous vote from the board. Unanimous? Unanimous. I don't think you should take this vote right now. I'm good with it. I mean, I'm okay with it. Just don't take it now. When do you want to take it? Because we have to... It has to happen today? I know our meeting is over, but does this have to happen today? If it doesn't happen today, I just need to appoint somebody else. Do you want the resume on this person? Yeah, I just want, you know... I can share the resume of this person with you like in two seconds. Okay. Yeah, you're recognized, Commissioner Gilbert. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have several other motions while you're sharing that resume. All of them to be read by the county attorney, but the first one I'd like to talk about is the FIFA World Cup legacy projects that we have. Right now, the legacy project was slated to be completed and done in District 1. I think that based on where we are fiscally as a county, I think it's probably more appropriate for us to actually use the legacy dollars to plug some of the holes that we have for like safe summers and the mom-and-pop grants. So what I've done is talked to the administration and the host committee, and I'd like to make a motion, and the motion that the attorney's going to read this first motion is to reprogram the legacy dollars to allow district commissioners to use those dollars in their districts for their safe summers, their district-related funding that we previously cut. Those projects went to help kids go to summer camp and small businesses actually meet payroll, and so I think that us being able to help the community like that will be good. I just ask that when you all do that, you all, you know, and whatever your programming, publicity you do, this is done pursuant to our, because our FIFA World Cup money, the same way we did for the other monies we received. That's my motion. You can read it. Mr. Attorney. Second. Commissioner Gilbert moves to direct the county mayor or county mayor's designee to identify $3 million in legally available funds and to allocate $1 million of said funds in fiscal year 25-26, mid-year budget adjustments and amendments, and allocate $2 million of said funds in the fiscal year 26-27, proposed county budget, as follows, subject to budget and appropriation. One, $1,200,000 to the portion of the Anti-Gun Violence and Prosperity Initiatives Trust Fund that is distributed to county commission districts and dispersed in accordance with the terms set forth in resolution number R-238-21, and two, $1,800,000 to the county's mom-and-pop program to be shared equally by each commission district. Commissioner Gilbert further moves to direct the county mayor, county mayor's designee, to negotiate a grant agreement with the Greater Miami Sports Commission, Inc., for the receipt of matching funds for such programs and the amounts identified above and to present the negotiated grant agreement to this board for approval. Thank you. All right. It's been moved. It's been seconded. Good question. Would you second it, though? Yeah, I don't. Oh, you second. Okay, so it's been seconded by Commissioner Regulado. You're recognized, Commissioner Hardiman. Just, I don't have the resolution in front of me, so the resolution of R-45424, $3 million of matching funds, is it our $3 million? It's money that comes from us and the host committee, and so we directed the administration to actually provide for our match, and so we're going to use our match, but we're also using the money that they have to raise, so we're going to be getting money from them to pull into the budget for us to use in our districts for, in my instance, it'll be probably Safe Summers and Mom and Papa, but you all do whatever it is. So we're not giving, we're not giving the money anymore. It may be a recapture, but it's likely money they had to raise for the legacy project. So the $3 million is the $3 million we were supposed to budget to match. Right. And the $3 million that comes from there. We're not going to put it to the commission disperse anti-violence thing, the 30%, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. And so, and what I would like to do is, I know, I think they staggered when it was, but this should be enough money to accommodate those particular grant areas, not just for this fiscal year, but for subsequent, I think, three fiscal years going down the road. So the idea is that we solve, we use that fee for host committee money to solve the problems, that gap, in providing services in our individual districts that we created when we eliminated it out of the last budget. So then the R238-21, which is in subsection one, that's the funding mechanism that we established when we created the anti-gun violence and prosperity initiatives trust. I'm assuming that's what that is. The R238-21? It was the peace and prosperity. Peace and prosperity. That's peace. Okay, so that's perfectly fine. And then the number two is just how we normally do. We split it up for the small business grants. That's correct, yeah? Yes. Okay, good. Thank you so much for the influx of dollars into our districts. Thank you so much, sir. You're welcome. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I don't understand this motion. What is the Greater Miami Sports Commission? What is that? What is the Greater Miami Sports Commission, Inc.? That's through the chair. That is the host committee. That's the host committee, I guess, for Miami, World Cup Miami. Okay, got it. And then what is the World Cup Legacy Projects? What is that? What is the Legacy World Cup Legacy Projects? Typically, a lot of these events, through the chair, I'm sorry, a lot of these events, like when the Orange Bowl aim or the Super Bowl, they often like to leave legacy projects like a football field, an athletic facility, something like that. And I think that's what was, that was the legacy. I'm not sure if they ever identified a legacy project for FIFA, but I think that was the intention there. Yeah, when we approved it, the Legacy Project is something that we approved to be in District 1. This is me giving you all, spreading the money countywide to help programming with, I mean, I think you started Safe Summers, but Safe Summers and the Mom and Pop and the Peace and Prosperity Fund said we don't have, yeah, so that it can go back into the community. Okay, thank you. And so, but I'm trying to understand where the $3 million is coming from because it directs the mayor to identify $3 million in legally available funds. So is this money, where's the $3 million coming from? That's just all I need to get clarity on. Where's the $3 million coming from? I can explain. They're going to identify the specific spot in the mid-year, but in the real world, we've already directed the mayor to do this twice. When we passed the item initially, they were directed it, they were directed to outline it in the budget. Okay, so is this part of the original FIFA host committee allocation, or is this separate and apart from the original? This is a part of the original item. This is incomplete? This was a part of it, yeah, so we're essentially changing, we're changing where we spend the money that we already directed them to segregate. We're clawing back? Some of it will be recapture. Okay. So we know that we're going to get money, or we expect to get money a recapture from them because they got subsequent money from the federal government and other entities, but independent of that, their charge was to go out and raise money for the legacy project. And so what we're saying is that money, the money that you were supposed to get us for the raise, the legacy project, and the money we were going to contribute for the legacy project, we're now going to use countywide in this type of programming. Okay, I understand now. I see this, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, as a recapturing, and if that's true, I would like to see more of these, right? So like when FIFA host committee finishes their work, presumably there will be a full accounting of every dollar that came in from the federal government, from the state, from us, potentially there could be more money to recapture and reinvest back into our community and to our residents. So is this a one-off or is there the intention of bringing this again in the future? Well, this is something that exists with regard to how we're going to do the legacy project. The administration's already working on a recapture of funds from the host committee because from our perspective, from the county's perspective, when the federal government allocated in a fairly convoluted way money down, it went to host committees and I think some law enforcement, but we were actually the funding source. So we believe that we should be recapturing. And Jimmy, I think this is where we are on this, right? We should be recapturing some of those dollars that wouldn't be used because they got money from the federal government. So we're trying to recapture money generally also. So yes. Jimmy, is that? Commissioner, through the chair, there have been federal dollars that have come down for security, for example, police security, some for transportation. It's not clear how much, if anything, we'll have. The stadium, for example, has been working with the sheriff's office and the host committee to have a more elaborate security plan that is adding some costs. So if there's money left over, that's one of the things we don't know at this point. Some of those federal dollars are not usable because the contracts haven't been federalized historically. So we're, and I don't know if our OMB director might have a better sense, but there may be surplus, there may not. We don't know that right now until we're really done with all the things that need to be done. Okay. So whether we recapture in the future, that remains to be seen. But regarding the World Cup legacy projects, Commissioner Gilbert, this will be the full allocation towards that specific initiative. Correct? No, Jimmy, our chief, just explained that he's not sure whether or not there will be another recapturing because it's unclear what they will have left over, if anything. My question to you is the $3 million of this item that is specifically allocated to the World Cup legacy projects, that's it for the World Cup legacy projects. Anything that is extra or anything to be recaptured in the future would go towards a legacy project. And that's why I said with the recapture sort of, so as a part of their master agreement, they had to actually provide the legacy project anyway. So if we didn't recapture any money, they were still obligated to do a legacy project for $3 million. Now, separately, we're trying to recapture some money from them because we believe that they receive money for things that we have previously had to pay for. So we know that when they got money for security, if they don't expand anything else, they told us what their security budget was, we gave them a lot of money for that security, we want some of that money back now. So we understand that. We're working on that separately. This was, independent of that, this exists. They had a requirement to do a legacy project. And Aldo asked me a good question. This isn't affected by the individual pitches that they're doing around. This was something separate. This was the larger legacy project that was scheduled to be in District 1. So I do have a question and I agree with this. I agree with what you're doing and I want to just point out that the reason at least for the mom and pop program replenishing is because we actually took that out of this year's budget. So we're not, we're not like getting new money or anything like that. But I do have a question for the attorney and I'm not going to support this. I agree with this, but it's not the same thing, but I want to make sure that what I directed the administration to do is still getting done, which is, and again, these are motions that are somewhat on the fly. I didn't have time to get briefed on it, but I remember that I had a directive when we took some additional money for FIFA and you'd have to drop my memory here, but I had asked, we took that money from a healthcare line item of sorts and I said, from last year's budget, and I said, that has to be replenished. Now, you're going to have to pull that up. It's a little different, but it's money that we're recapturing, so we're in the pecking order. Does that money get replenished that we borrowed from whether it was reserves or healthcare? And again, this was, what, a year ago? It was a year ago or whatnot, so this is kind of the issue with, and we do it all the time, we're going to continue, this is kind of the issue with motions like this is that we don't have time to, and I do them, it's not about Gilbert, obviously, we all do them, but what is, so again, I'm supportive of this motion, but when we recapture funds, in what pecking order do we start the directives of, like y'all are giving me blind stares as if I'm speaking Chinese, Japanese, Mandarin, Portuguese, look at these, I mean, Mr. Chairman, it's, through the chair, it's not our, no one remembers this, no one remembers, I gave like a full speech on the days here. Yeah, so Mr. Chairman, the challenge is, it's not, this is not, and that's why I want to push back a little bit on, it's not a pure recapturing of funds necessarily, this is not a recapturing of funds in that way, so their obligation, whether we recapture any funds, was still to have a legacy project that we, I guess, we have three million and they had three million for the legacy project, so it's a reallocating of what was already the obligation. All right, I'm good with it. So it's not a recapturing. Director, just before I move forward and again, I'm supportive of this motion, Director, I just need a verbal from you that as you're getting ready to send us and we're working out this next year's budget that you are accounting for all of these past directives, including the one I just brought up, to reinstate, replenish, replace the funds that we use from that account that this board supported when I gave that directive from the health care, I believe it was like a health care line item, maybe it was just a reserve item, but I don't remember the details. It was, again, well over a year ago, but we need to make sure that, because what I don't want is that a lot of the time you all just write, the administration is your first year doing the budget, but you could write, well, we just, we got the directive, but we just didn't have the money, and so we're not doing it. Ray Baker, Director, Office of Management and Budget. Sir, we'll make sure that your original motion is addressed properly, along with the chair, Commissioner Gilbert's motion as well, as part of the development of the FY26-27 budget. Thank you, Director. Commissioner Gilbert moves this motion. It is seconded by Commissioner Regalato. All in favor, signify by saying aye. All opposed, nay. All right. I have another motion. All right. I'm going to go to, you have another motion, but let me just, go ahead, go ahead. I didn't expect, I thought that was going to be the short motion because I was giving y'all money, but it's just like, it was longer. Okay, this next one is for 30 for 30. We have some appointments that we need to be made. The inaugural meeting is coming this Thursday. There were several positions that needed to be filled. I'm recommending, I think that the county attorney should have this, or you all should have it. Commissioner Bastien asked that board member to replace Mayor Higgins or Mayor Eileen Higgins she was formally appointed. So, Commissioner Bastien, Angela Moon for under 30, Yotav Atis for media, Heather Molling from the agricultural industry, George Gonzalez, he's the head of a local bank, as the local banker, and Father Fritz Belenos as the member of the clergy that has to be appointed. All right. It's been moved. Is this for 30 for 30? Yes. All right. It's been moved by Commissioner Gilbert. I have a question. Seconded by Commissioner Regalado. All right. Commissioner Steinberg, you're recognized. Okay. So, I know this is a really great, you know, vision. I love the vision of the Vision Council, potentially. But, and I know, I know one name at least on this list, maybe more, but I'm not sure I'm familiar with some of the members. Do you have, by any chance, like, resume or anything that goes along with these names so we can kind of understand like who they are and how many members do we need to fill ultimately and how many members are comprised of the board? I forget. I think this is the last county commissioner spot that we needed to fill. I think we might have resumes. I'm not sure. Angela Moon. Well, I know, obviously, everyone except for, well, I know who she is also, Heather Molling from the Dade County Agricultural Industry. I know who she is, obviously. So, George Gonzalez is the head of, what's the bank? I want to say City United Bank. It's the largest local bank that we have. He is the banking industry head. Angela Moon is under 30, which was the requirement. And she's the daughter of Jennifer Moon. Commissioner Bastian is, well, she's the commissioner. Yeah. And Father Fritz is a member of the clergy. I wanted to have him. All right. Commissioner Bermudez. Yeah. Been late, guys. Let's just cut through this. I'm going to support it. But again, it's to me, getting these things at the last minute and it's smart move by Commissioner Gilbert and all of you to do it. But it's not good government because then some of these questions could be answered and I wouldn't feel like somebody's giving me something at the last moment and that I didn't get a chance to look into it, which is part of our purpose. So, I'm going to support it because I trust Commissioner Gilbert and I trust his judgment and whatever, and this group. But this applies to everybody, including me. If I gave you a something at the last moment, you should probably tell me why are you giving it to me at the last moment? And again, I'm going to look at the world's largest or the city's largest law firm. If they have it, we've got to have some rules somewhere that the rest of us should have it at some point before the last minute of the meeting. So, I hope, Mr. Chair, that in your leadership role, you can convince all of us that we should give these things timely instead of at the last minute to our colleagues. Because it would be very good if you got it. The young man with the nice suit has been over here like five times. I like seeing his suit, but I don't like seeing him here five times with something else. And if you have it, just give it before. Why wait until the last minute? It makes no difference and it looks terrible. And by the way, one of these days, somebody's going to say, well, I'm not going to vote for it because I trust you guys and I trust Commissioner Gilbert in this, but I do think we need to get into the habit of doing things timely. And I think to the county attorney's office, if you have it, get it to us before. Or tell the assistants for us, hey, can you give it to your colleagues before? All right, we have a motion. We have a second. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed nay. Show the folks appointed. All right, I'm going to give this a second bite at the whatever part of the apple still left. Can you read? Well, you don't need to read my motion. You already read it. So Commissioner Orbis moves my motion to waive the rules unanimously on the CARE Miami's advisory board to appoint Zaba St. George Castro. It's moved by Orbis, seconded by Hardiman. That's so confusing. Why is it a waiver? Why are we waiving it? Because the member has nothing to do with the committee. Oh, that part. Yeah, no problem. You got it? All right. All in favor, signify by saying aye. All opposed nay. All right, show it passed unanimously as required. Now, on that note, on a very similar note, if the clerk can announce the results for the ballot that we all completed earlier. Good afternoon. Agenda item 14B1 pertains to the appointment of a member to the consumer advisory for responsive experience at Miami International Airport Advisory Board. The ballot consisted of three candidates from which the board was asked to select one nominee. Responses to the ballot were tallied and the nominee selected is Ms. Alejandra Alex Agudin with six votes. So, clerk, she announced I was, okay, so who was the winner? Alejandra Alex Agudin. Alex. All right, congratulations to Alex for being appointed to the CARE Miami Advisory Board. All right, do we have additional more? You have more? Oh, you have one. Oh, you're recognized for another motion, Commissioner. Yeah, can you all read my housing motion, please? Yes, Commissioner Gilbert moves to grant to the following developers, each of which has been conveyed certain properties through the Miami-Dade County Infill Housing Initiative Program, a one-year extension to complete construction and obtain final certificates of occupancy for the lots listed herein, currently bearing folio numbers. For the 34 Ways Foundation, folio number 08-2122-005-0600, and for Palmetto Homes, 34-1134-006-0300, folio number 34-2105-016-5240, and folio number 34-2109-004-0290. Commissioner Gilbert further moves to one, authorize the chairperson or voice chairperson of this board pursuant to section 125.411 Florida statutes to execute amended and restated deeds, amended deeds to the developers identified herein for the properties identified herein following approval by the county attorney's office in order to grant the one-year extensions. Two, to authorize the county mayor or county mayor's designee to take all actions necessary to exercise any and all rights set forth in the amended deeds, including but not limited to, exercising the county's option to enforce its reversionary interest after conducting all due diligence, title searches, and environmental review, and three, direct the county mayor or county mayor's designee to provide copies of the recorded amended deeds to the property appraiser, record the amended deeds in the public records, and provide copies of the amended deeds to the clerk of the board. All right. So, Commissioner Gilbert moves the item. It's seconded by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. So, the item passed. Motions. Okay. I'm coming right to you. Bermudez, do you have anything? I just want to second Commissioner Regalado's motion because I want her to like me again. Okay. But when she has her motion, can you please have her? Commissioner Hardiman, I'm sure she'll love that. You're hard to swallow. What is it? You're hard to swallow? You're hard to love. You're hard to love. Mr. Chairman, you should bring your lunch moving forward. Yeah, no, I need lunch. It'll change the dynamic of the conversation. I need lunch. Hardiman, you got anything? You got nothing? Orvis, you got anything? Regalado, it's up here. You're up. If the attorneys could read it, thank you. Pursuant to section 2-1421D of the Code of Miami-Dade County, Florida, as amended by Ordinance 26-11, and by two-thirds vote of the board's membership, Commissioner Regalado moves that this board waive the term limit restrictions for members of the Citizen Independent Transportation Trust and reappoint Meg Daly for District 7 to the CITT for a term of four years. I'm going to go with you guys and Bermudez will move, second the motion, but I'm not doing this right now. Now he wants to speak, then she's going to rebuttal and like, Mr. Gilbert. I'm just going to second the appointment. I'm going to second the appointment. Oh, you want to second it now? Oh, now you're Mr. Underline? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Now you're Mr. Underline. So this is a good example of how you separate an issue from a person. This is her serving on a separate board. This has nothing to do with my disdain for us taking public money and continuing to pour it into the Underline. That's not... Bermudez, I'm sorry. We can definitely... I second the waiver. All right. There you go. I appreciate it. Commissioner Steinberg is adding to it now. And Robert Woolworth for District 4 to the CITT waiving as well. Thank you. All right. It's been moved. It's been seconded by two people. Wait, I have one. Thank you. All right. Add your CITT. Peggy Bell waiving CITT District 8. Peggy Bell. We got Peggy Bell. Anyone else? All right. We got three appointees waiving CITT, all of the good stuff. All fourth. You got a fourth now? You got another one? It's Robert Woolworth. Oh, I thought you said the fourth. Be with you. That was yesterday. Mr. Chair. Another one? Who said Mr. Chair? Mr. Chair, we also have Mary Street for District 5. All right. District 5, that one. I didn't want to talk It's Taco Tuesday. Golly. Yes, you bring your lunch. I need tacos. All right. It's been moved by Regalado. Is this on another CITT? Oh. It's been moved by Regalado, seconded by both Bermudez and Gilbert. You can decide, clerk, which one you want to put down. All in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. All opposed, nay. show the motion passed. Commissioner Cohen-Higgins. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I hereby appoint Rima Bartowell to the Miami-Dade Animal Services Advisory Board. I appoint Danielle Desvallons to the Miami-Dade Elder Affairs Advisory Board. I appoint Yaneth Baez to the Miami-Dade Hispanic Affairs Advisory Board. And I appoint Roberto Fernandez to the Miami-Dade Small Business Enterprise Goods and Services Advisory Board. All right. It's been moved by Commissioner Cohen-Higgins, seconded by Commissioner Lopez. All in favor, signify by saying aye. All opposed, nay. Steinberg, do you have any appointments or no? Gilbert did his. Lopez, you have any? Senator Garcia's gone. All right, guys. Just like to... One last motion, Mr. Chair. Bye? From who? Commissioner Lopez. Oh, she said no. I literally just asked. All right. Go ahead. Just read it in. All right. I'm not the only one that didn't have lunch today. All right. In the meantime, that they all figure out their motion. You have it? All right. Commissioner Lopez moves to appoint Tamir Tugberg to the Miami-Dade Commission on Human Rights. All right. Show it moved by Commissioner Lopez, seconded by Commissioner Steinberg. I think she saw the... She felt the eyes looking at her. All in favor, signify by saying aye. All opposed, nay. Guys, please remember to visit the Haitian event going on downstairs. It's been going on since about noon. So make sure that we all stop by and since we won't be here, I want to take this opportunity, reminded now by my colleague, to wish all mothers a happy Mother's Day this coming Sunday. And I don't want to throw a monkey wrench here, but I also want to say all those that are pointed to boards that are DEI, they're going to come to a conclusion January 1st. Bye. Bye.