We're going to begin with Pastor Harp giving us invocation, and our Pledge of Allegiance will be by Jeff Norwood, our Veterans Service Director. We have 905 public comment and 505 public comment. Additional items are Consent 11, adopt a proclamation recognizing Martin Reeds and Martin County. So, Department Quasi-Judition No. 3, request for approval for the revised Master Site Plan for the Newfield Crossroads Neighborhood, P172-018. Department 4, approval of the Seventh Amendment to the Commercial Lease with Daher Airspace. We have two Consent Agenda polls, both by Commissioner Hurd, which we'll take up first once we get rolling with our agenda, which is Consent No. 7, Business Development Board of Martin County Annual Report, and Consent No. 8, request for contracts renewals between Martin County and the Solar and Energy Loan Fund. All right, and we will begin, Commissioner Campy. Just a question before we go to the vote. I know that there's a decent amount of people and some young members of our community that are here to discuss public hearing, Quasi-Judicial No. 1, request for a revised Master Major Final Site Plan for the Treasure Coast Classical Academy. I know that they're pretty deep into the agenda. I was wondering if you could, if it was all possible to move them up so that they don't have to sit. Sure. Thank you very much. Okay. Wherever it fits, but just earlier than that late in the afternoon. Okay. Commissioner Smith. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Move approval of the agenda with the additional items of Consent Item No. 11, Department Quasi-Judicial No. 3, Department Item No. 4, with the two additional polls of Consent 7 and 8, and that the Chair does what he needs to do to move that item up, and that also this morning that we might hear a presentation or some discussion relative to about the beach and lifeguards and so on. Okay. Good. I plan to do that first. Chair, I will second approval of the agenda. Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Okay. And if we could all stand for invocation by Pastor Jim. Thank you. Let's pray. Father, as I've been sitting here this morning asking you how I should pray, Lord, I feel led to pronounce a blessing, not only over these that you have placed in leadership over our county and given direction and opportunity to lead us, Lord, into what you would have for us, but, Lord, I want to pray this morning a blessing over Martin County for all of us who live here, for all of us who work here, for all of us who call this our home, Lord, I'm taking back to the Old Testament centuries ago when in the book of Numbers it says, And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying, Thus you shall bless the sons of Israel. You shall say to them, The Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you. The Lord lift up his countenance on you and give you peace. So they shall invoke my name on the sons of Israel, and then I will bless them. Father, that is my prayer. That is my invocation this morning over these that I have mentioned, over us, Lord, as we live and serve and find our home and peace here in Martin County. Lord, would you do that for us today and continue on that we might reflect that peace, that blessing, not only to each one and in this community, but, Lord, throughout this state, that this county might be known as the county that, God, you have blessed. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to its republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So, commissioners, if I may, administration, thank you very much, guys. I just actually wanted to take a second and say thank you. I appreciate your support that you have for my office and the veterans of this community. I know we get caught up a lot in our daily 9 to 5 work stuff, so I just want to take a moment and say thank you, guys. I really do appreciate your support in the community and for me and my office. So thank you very much, commissioners. Thank you. All right, now we are going to do a proclamation for Parks and Recreation Month. Good morning, commissioners. Parks and Recreation programs and facilities are an integral part of communities throughout the country and encourage physical activities by providing space for sports, hiking trails, swimming pools, and a myriad of other pursuits designed to promote active lifestyles. During July, recognized as Parks and Recreation Month, the board acknowledges the benefits derived from Parks and Recreation resources, commends the department's work, and encourages citizens to take advantage of the amenities and programs offered in Martin County. And here to accept, we have Kevin Abate, who is the director of our Parks and Recreation department. Good morning, Kevin Abate, Parks and Recreation director. And to my right is Kevin Kerwin, also known as K2. He's the deputy Parks and Recreation director. And a few folks from the team I will acknowledge. Todd Faust, who's been with the organization for 17 years, or with Parks for 17. Nancy Johnson, the marketing manager. Jessica Ballish, 12 years with the department. Kevin, with 34 years in Parks. And I didn't really get a chance to take that. And so everyone will be in the photo today. And I'll be going on my 40th year this year in August for Parks. So it's been a great journey. You were 10 when you started. Yeah. I am proud of this team over the last 14 years with the county, in case to remind the board and the public that we are accredited through the National Recreation and Parks Association's accreditation process. There are only, I looked last week, there's only 204 agencies of the 12,000 publicly funded agencies in the United States that are accredited. So it's 0.017%. I attended the best of the best ceremony last year with Nancy to accept our award. And we have 27 years of accreditation. And this team is the team that makes it happen. But summer is here. The team's doing really well throughout the county. Right now we're employing over 250 summer positions throughout our various assets. We have, this year we have 150 free swim lessons through our grant programs and summer camps. The water park should expect to see about 60,000 people attending the water park. The golf course is on a record pace. They sold 640 summer memberships. This is all about summer. We're hosting our busy, busy beaches with surf camps. Our park operations team in the heat of the summer are dealing with more than 1,400 acres of active park land to cut the grass. And they're dealing with over $2 million of products that they're actually taking care of. I also looked this morning just to see what kind of volume we had. With the team, we produced over 3,700 requests for service in the last year to date for the county. With our programs this year, or last year we had 220 kids that participated in our after-school programs with the Children's Services Council. And this summer we have 425 youths and teens participating in our summer camps. And all of those programs are free to the public, which is even more astonishing. Last year we hosted and produced over 24 community events with close to 16,000 residents and visitors attending. Those are just the things we do. And then our Lob Cabin Senior Program is also doing great with over 350 annual participants. And all of those efforts are being marketed by Nancy Johnson with our 44,000 subscribed e-mailers. She sent out over 72 e-mail campaigns last year, managing 12 social media accounts with almost 73,000 followers. And her social media accounts has just a normal reach of about 3.8 million annually, beyond those posts that get a separate million from sharing. So overall, this team, to my right, has done an outstanding job over the past, it's my 14 years, most of them have been with me. And I'm proud for all that they've done and all that we do to serve this great community from Martin County. So thank you. Our Parks Department is astonishing, and this is why. Thank you. That's a lot of years of experience up there. Yeah, right. A couple others that could push decades into it. Nice job. Hey, too, nice job. Sounds like a great ski company. Yeah, right. Or a mountain. Okay. Now we're going to go a bit off script. Before we do public comment, we do have a couple of speakers that want to speak about the lifeguard situation, which was explained to me very well the other day. So we have actually the chief here to give us an update on that so we all understand exactly what we're talking about. Please. Good morning, commissioners. For the record, Chad Chancholi, fire chief, Martin County Fire Rescue. Division chief, Christian Montoya, Martin County Fire Rescue. Matt Rush, fire rescue administrator. Hey, hold on. Don, did you want to say? No, go ahead. Okay. All right, so first I just want to thank you for allowing us to come here. We're really just here. We're not asking for anything. There's no request. It's just an update on the operation of Ocean Rescue. There's a couple things I want to talk about today. I want to talk about, one, recruitment for Ocean Rescue lifeguards, and, two, I want to talk about the operation as far as the staffing. So first, let me start with just the staffing of the operation. As you know, over the past year plus, Bathtub Beach has been shut down, and with the abundance of lifeguards that we have to cover all of those open beaches, I was able to do modifications to their schedule, be an employee advocate for staffing, and we typically run eight-hour days. Our eight-hour days run from nine to five. That's been the history of Ocean Rescue. Since we did shut the beach down, it gave me a little more extra staffing. We were able to switch to 10-hour days, and I was able to modify on both sides of that nine and the five. So either we would start an hour early, close an hour later, depending on the summer months, and then we would kind of manipulate that schedule a little bit. However, when we knew Bathtub was going to open back up, which we did, then I had to go back to our original eight-hour schedule. So that's with just our staffing. If you notice, the lifeguards were out there a little longer. It's because we changed the 10-hour days. Now we have to revert back to the eight-hour days because we have to account now for Bathtub Beach. That's scheduling side. So let me talk about recruitment. I'm always here talking about recruitment and retention. Recruitment and retention is an extreme challenge, and I don't care what department we're talking about. But today, obviously, it's just going to be Ocean Rescue. Ocean Rescue, our lifeguards, are some of the most professional lifeguards that we have in the state of Florida. We have the most beautiful beaches in the state of Florida, and a level of standard that we have here for the care of our residents, it's top-notch, and that is never going to change. But back to the recruitment. Our lifeguards, we're probably one of three agencies in the entire state that are certified as lifeguards and certified as EMTs. Now, with that comes some challenges. Usually, when you find somebody that is trained at the level of an EMT, typically, they're all firefighters. So usually, when we have an opening for Ocean Rescue and we post it wide, we have maybe two or three candidates that come up to actually take our first swim test. So there's a series of testing they have to go through to meet the standard before we bring them on board and start training them. Now, when we have those, say, three candidates, maybe one will actually pass the swim test. Now, that's all I'm working with. If I have two openings, I'm still short. If you do not evolve with the practice of looking at your recruitment intention and change your practices along the way, just to account for what's happening out there industry-wide, this isn't unique to Martin County. This is the industry of Ocean Rescue. Finding career lifeguards is something of an anomaly. You don't really find them. So you learn how to operate within that. So what we have done now is we take certified lifeguards, we put them through the same swim test, but they do not have to have the EMT certification. So what's that mean to the public? We still put them through the same testing, the same process. The standard has not changed. The difference is now we train them to what we call an emergency medical responder, which means we train them medically to the level that we want from zero all the way up to when they're functioning on the actual beach itself. They still go through the same arduous testing process. They still have the same medical needs that are needed on the beach itself. When the medical needs arise on the beach, that's when 911 is initiated. That's when the ALS, Advanced Life Support Response, comes. That's when fire rescue comes with the ambulance. And that's when they come with the paramedics. That's where the transition happens. As far as now recruitment, I told you when we did lifeguards that held the certification of EMT, I had maybe two or three. Now, after we've been doing this for probably a few months now, we have opened it up, one position. We have at least 20 people that are now applying for the job. Now, I have fixed the recruitment issue, but I had to modify how we actually operate, but the level of service is the exact same. Our lifeguards are top-notch, and as long as I'm here, they will always be top-notch. Our community will always have that standard that we achieve to keep and always push the limit to the next level. So that's just kind of a brief overview, but I'm here to take any questions that you may have in addition to that. Anybody have any questions? It was, like usual, you're right to the point. Yeah, okay. Thank you. All right. You're welcome. Have a good day. Okay. Now, Don. The chief took care of it. I'm good, sir. Thank you, sir. Oh, I thought you were going to do your— Oh, yes. It's now time for public comment? Yes. I'm sorry. Change hats. Since we are in election season, politicking is prohibited, which is defined as advocating the election or defeat of a candidate for public office, either partisan or nonpartisan. This includes the use of words, dates, signs, props, and or wearing apparel that convey a message of support for a person or group of persons. Thank you. Okay. So we are going to start with Nathan Ames, followed by Mr. Tom Pine. You'll have three minutes, and at the—with a buzzer that will alert you you have 15 seconds left. Morning. I'm sorry I left that point out. Thank you for— Come closer to the mic. Oh, sorry. Can you hear me? A little better. Um, I'm Nathaniel Ames. Um, admittedly, I'm a layperson to the given issue of the approval of, uh, TCCA's expansion, but as a parent of their—of several scholars that attend there. And just a casual observance of the car line, if you will, the daily car line challenge, uh, which is, is well worth it, by the way, um, for the city of Stewart, Marne County, the surrounding, uh, cities and communities that TCCA serves. If it's not already clear, I believe it's abundantly clear that TCCA needs, uh, additional—additional space, as it were, uh, to accommodate all the scholars that they serve and—or future scholars that they will—they will serve. So, um, so I'm here with my—my son, Austin, to—to support that effort and, uh, and, uh, appreciate your—your time. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Pine will be followed by Mr. Rob Ranieri. Good morning, commissioners. First off, it appears the speakers in the back of the room are not working once again. My name's Tom Pine. I live in Jensen Beach, Florida. I've been a resident of Martin County for over 50 years. Today, in the consent agenda, the commissioner will approve $11,701,102.42 between—spent between May 20th and June 2nd, 2024, without identifying the pays or the purpose of the payments. With the help of like-minded people, here are some of the hidden items in the consent agenda today. The annual report of the Martin County Business Development Board is mostly financed by taxpayers at a cost of $450,000 a year. It would be nice if the taxpayers of Martin County were shown how the Business Development Board was spending our tax dollars. Why is it a secret? Or the renewal of a contract between the county and Solar Energy Loan Fund, which provides assistance to low- and medium-income residents, unlike the C.I.R.A. Property Improvement Program, which gives grants to some of the Martin County's wealthiest commercial property owners to make everything look prettier. Over retiring, Martin County Sheriff has been working hard to make sure he's remembered as being tough on crime. Recently, the Sheriff's Department made several arrests at massage parlors, and now he's turning his attention to the homeless living among us. Tent City Helpers, a local volunteer organization, started in Martin County, Florida, December 20, 2015, and on June 30, 2016, they became a not-for-profit business and with two weeks, obtained federal non-profit status. Some local officials are trying to paint the homeless population in Martin County as people coming from out-of-county or out-of-state, or even some immigrants from out-of-country. According to Tent City Helpers, 95% of their clients are local. They know because some of their volunteers were teachers right here in Martin County. Once a week, volunteers from Tent City Helpers goes around to several pre-designated spots where they bring snack packs, hot meal to go, and supplies that one might need to fix a tent. Now our Martin County Sheriff's Department is in the process of issuing trespass warnings to any unauthorized camping throughout Martin County. A large group of campers by Lowe's and Stewart were recently served. This says loud and clear, do not get confused. The homeless population is exploding throughout the country. And here in Martin County, we're going to start treating our fellow man worse than most people treat their dogs. Don't tell me about your Christian values. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Ranieri will be followed by Nikki Campbell. Morning, Commissioners. For the record, Rob Ranieri, CEO for House of Hope. Just wanted to weigh in. I see you have an agenda item today on affordable housing with the review of county properties. First, I want to give a tip of the cap to Martin County staff, George Stokas, Michelle Miller, and many others, working very hard on the issue of affordable housing, and certainly their efforts are greatly appreciated. Part of what you'll discuss today, I guess, is what to do with some of the properties that the staff has seen fit for use in affordable housing. I'm sure it will be discussed at the item, but we do have a new Martin County Community Land Trust, thanks in a large part to the dedication of Commissioner Jenkins. I have the privilege of sitting on the board of that organization, so it's a great opportunity and option to create a pathway to affordable housing for many people in our community that need that support. I'm sure Habitat for Humanity will be discussed as well, another fantastic organization that's been doing great work for decades. So I just want to keep this issue of affordable housing sort of in the front of all your minds. At House of Hope, we're seeing it as, if not the largest, certainly one of the top two largest issues that our community of residents are faced with. Commissioner Campy, a while ago at a joint meeting, talked about his starfish theory and all the different tools we need to put in a toolkit to deal with this issue. That certainly remains true today. There's an entity, an organization called Green Mills, that has submitted a proposal to the City of Stewart to hopefully partner with them on some property they have to put about 130 truly affordable apartments where the target audience would be people, families earning $50,000 or under $50,000 annually. So all of these solutions are starting to present themselves. A lot of it is the dialogue that all of you have had on this commission. Certainly we appreciate that effort. I just want to urge you all to kind of keep your foot on the gas on this issue. It's not going to get solved without support from county staff and from this board, and we have a lot of work to do ahead of us. But I want to thank you for your efforts to this point. Have a great day. Thank you, Rob. Ms. Campbell will be followed by Sam Mahoney. Good morning. Good morning. I'm Nikki Campbell. I live in the City of Stewart, and I've lived there since 1994. Good morning. I'm Nikki Campbell, City of Stewart. I've lived here since 1994. I'm here this morning to ask you to return the Ocean Rescue lifeguards to the extended hours they had before the bathtub beach opened and then it closed two days ago. That is, hours 7.30 in the morning till 5.30 at night. I'm a widow who took up daily ocean swimming several years ago at Stewart and Jensen beaches, and nearly every morning at 7.30. The swimmers are there in the ocean, especially these hot months of the year. I and others like me rely heavily on the lifeguards to keep us safe. They alert us to dangerous conditions, preventing accidents and drownings primarily. They also point out riptide areas for the day. They're always watching for sharks. And every two weeks, the lifeguards have in-water training that is very impressive. In summary, I, as well as other swimmers, noticed that during the bathtub beach, when it was open, the lifeguards were not at Jensen or Stewart. They came in one and a half hours later. For the past year, they have been there at 7.30 in the morning until 5.30 at night. If it were to continue, as they would like to have with shorter hours, it means that we then lose an hour and a half of a lifeguard at 7.30. And there are a lot of people swimming because of the hot weather. We get out there early in the morning. This is creating a dangerous situation every day. I sincerely hope that the lifeguard schedule goes back to the way it has been for the past year. The past year, we've had 7.30 to 5.30. And this morning, I heard the chief mention that there are possibly 20 applicants now so that we will have enough staffing to cover that so that they can do the extended hours. That would not be one of the issues about why they could not do it. I thank you for your attention. I appreciate it very much, and thank you for the jobs that you do. Sam Mahoney is followed by C.C. Schofield. Good morning, y'all. My name is Sam Mahoney. I'm a 31-and-a-half-year lifeguard retiree from Martin County, 58-year resident in Jensen Beach. All the things that Nikki said are true about the 10-hour days. Ninety-nine percent of the time, something really goes on serious for the day. It's at the 4.30 time to 5. There's a large contingent of crowds that come out afterwards in the evening, and they tend to need that attention as well. I also hear that there's the morning folks that are coming out as well. And with all the growth that Martin County's had, this has grown as well. What I came in today was about the high risk. We acquired high risk at the beach in 2005 through a big effort of the union and the county and fire rescue. At the same time, they all worked together and embraced that. And as far as the high risk, what it represents is a wide variety of things, from blood-borne pathogens to it's a job for a young man, such as the sheriff's department, and fire rescue as well. But without high risk now, they're going to need to be working until they're 60. If you want retention, it's hard to be a lifeguard at 60 years old. And I can tell you this much now because I'm still out there running and swimming, and I'm grateful that I don't have to be responsible for what these young guys are doing. But I have so many things that I've seen in this growth of the county. And the number of guards that we have now I think might be around 15 to 18 guards and staffing. But I've watched this county grow from engineering, administration, utilities. It's immense how much growth you've seen over 58 years, the whole development of all of it. But let's remember, there's only 18 lifeguards to this day, and there's too many when bathtubs close. But bathtub will open back up again, and you do want these employees retained. You don't want to let them go and then open up bathtub beach and be looking for more employees. Also, I'll touch base on this new training facility with fire rescue. Boy, what a feature and what a budget. And the sheriff's department is a huge budget too, but ocean rescue is a small part of fire rescue. And for these responses to take away the high risk from this group that took so much effort for them to get it. And let me tell you, I worked the day at Stewart when my fellow colleague paddled out. And just before he got in the water, I said, Dan, there's sharks around that. They're jumping and they're swarming around that kite border. But he had set the radio down, grabbed that surfboard, and went out, that paddleboard, and brought in that victim who passed on the way in from loss of blood all by himself. I also have brought in two victims out of the area at Jensen Beach. Two grown women, one passed, and the sister was holding on to the other one who has already passed. I went out by myself and brought those in. Huge shore break, really rough day. I've lost a body at the shore break and managed to get the other one in. Sir, your time is up. Thank you. Your time is up. Thank you. But this high risk taking it away was just... Sir, your time is up. Thank you. Thank you for your time. CC, followed by Michelle Miller. Our Michelle Miller? Good morning. Liquified natural gas, LNG, has 600 times the energy of natural gas. Ignited flammable vapors can travel with the wind, cause flash fires, pool fires, vapor cloud explosions, and blivies. Fortress Energy Partners was established in 2014 to build a nationwide small-scale LNG production and distribution business using rail corridors. On September 3, 2014, FECR expressed interest in moving containerized LNG from FEP's new LNG production facility in the Hialeah Rail Yard in Miami to the Bowdoin Yard in Jacksonville. On September 24, AF Holdings applied for $1.75 billion in bond financing to establish passenger rail service in the company's transportation corridor with stations located in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, and Orlando. And on December 31, American LNG Marketing and FEP affiliate requested DOE authorization to export LNG transported by rail in the same corridor from Miami to Ports of Miami, Everglades, Palm Beach, Jacksonville, and Canaveral. On March 3, 2016, the FRA responded in part that LNG rail transportation presented unique risk. No railroad in the U.S. was transporting LNG, proposed routes traverse congested highly populated areas with frequent highway-grade crossings, and eventually shared routes with 110-mile-per-hour high-performance passenger trains. So how did FRA's LNG team know about all aboard Florida, now Brightline? FRA held biweekly LNG conference calls with FECR and asked if LNG trains would be sharing tracks with passenger train services, and how would they ensure the trains would not interfere with each other's schedules. FECR said it was not operating passenger service on the line at the time, that routes would host AAF passenger trains in months and years ahead south of Cocoa, and PTC would be implemented prior to starting the service. On June 7, 2016, FECR revised LNG shipments to be limited to Ports of Miami and Everglades as a pilot initiative to gain experience with the rail move, and FRA approved 100,000-gallon-day shipments beginning May 9, 2017. Several churches and schools have been designated as potentially sensitive targets along the transportation routes. FECR advised that in the event of a leak, crews would stop the train, communicate the situation with the dispatch center, summon emergency responders, and position themselves in an upwind position, in other words, run. If FECR freight shipments are currently scheduled by Grupo, Mexico, and passenger rail by Brightline, what could go wrong? All reference entities except Grupo were affiliates of Fortress Investment Group, a New York hedge fund, and the two projects are mutually dependent. Thank you. Michelle Miller, followed by T. Mark Green, that should have brought your special guest up with you. There's a good chance he'll come this way. My name is Michelle Miller, and I am not only a parent of a TCCA scholar, but also a school board member. With me is Philip DeBruyard V, a future TCCA scholar. Today I'm here to support the expansion of TCCA. Not only was Cove Road supposed to be expanded 10 years ago, we have added, I think, nine neighborhoods within a two-mile radius. That's Salerno Reserve, that's the one at Darling and Willoughby, Willoughby and Cove, Cove Royale. There are all sorts of neighborhoods going in, and no schools have been added. Now, I'm asking for my son's school to be expanded so we can go K-12 without all of the students in one building. We are currently in one building, which means we have ninth grader or tenth graders with kindergartners. They're sharing bathrooms. Well, they're not supposed to be sharing bathrooms, but accidents happen, right? So we want to build a bigger school. We do not have any Martin County schools that are currently being proposed to be built, right? We have added all of these neighborhoods with more students with nowhere for them to go. We are asking, with our new 15-year charter that was given by the school district, to expand our school and allow, and we'll take some of the burden of Martin County schools, right? We're going to take these students for free. We are a choice school, which is great. We do not charge, like, the Pine School or Redeemer or any of these other private schools, and we're giving an excellent education. So what I'm asking is, yes, we might have a car line issue, but what school in Martin County doesn't, right? You pull in front of Pinewood. Willoughby has a line of cars, easily 100 long, about 45 minutes before their dismissal. If you pull in front of Crystal Lake, I think that's 96th Avenue out there, there's a line of cars that's causing traffic issues. So with the expansion of our school, we will also have an expanded car line, and I think the only right thing to do for our community is allow this school to expand on our dime, not on yours. So we are here today to support. Sorry we've made a little commotion in the back, but I greatly appreciate your time, and I hope, to Jesus, you will approve this today. Thank you so much. Okay, so our next three speakers are on this particular agenda item. So I'm going to give you the option. Would you prefer to wait until, which I can bring the agenda item up now, and then speak to the actual agenda item, or we can continue on and close out public comment now, or would you prefer to do your comment now? Wait. Well, yeah, wait. Okay, let's wait then. All right, so now, do we have any other public comment that's not specific to the Treasure Coast Academy? Seeing none, we'll close out public comment at this point, and I guess we'll do commissioner comments. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good morning. Not 100% sure. I always thought I knew what the protocol was for our voting delegation for NACO, National Association of Counties. I will not be able to attend this year, and if we don't have another commissioner going, my understanding is we need to, from the chair, have a letter that goes, I think, to Florida Association of Counties that gives either Sarah Powers, if she's going, or another staff person the right to vote on our behalf relative to the presidential selection. So I'm not sure exactly what the nuance is, whether it does go to, I'm pretty sure it goes to FAC, and then FAC has the complete package of letters from other counties that can't attend either, and then we vote as a block relative to the presidential selection. So I don't know if you need a motion or something to authorize. Presidential selection of NACO, not the president of NACO. For NACO. So are you asking you need an alternate, either a commissioner or staff? Yes, to give the chair the ability to produce a letter that meets the needs of NACO and or FAC to allow our staff member or commissioner, other than myself, to go and vote if they are there. A motion? Yep. I'll second it. Other comment? We have a motion and we have a second by Commissioner Smith and Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Okay. Motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Next item, and we can either do it at the end of the day, probably better to do it at the end of the day. I would like to have a conversation about bathtubs separate from Ocean Rescue, but there are some issues relative to it being open, closed, how we're going to handle that, that I would like to get some further conversation on with the board about bathtub itself. And then I think, Don, in talking to the chief, I think it would be helpful maybe for budget or probably budget would be the best time is to prepare a conversation on is there anything additional we should be doing with Ocean Rescue staffing-wise, time-wise, and so on. So today may not be the day to do that, but I think during budget time we should be prepared at least to have the conversation, what does it look like, how many, if we were to open up those extra hours, what would that look like relative to staffing and how many employees would we have to deal with and so on. So can we do that? I would agree. Yes, we can, you know, obviously some of these can be suggestions for us to bring for the budget presentation, which we'll have a hearing in July, and that would be my suggestion regarding any staffing issues as you have other things that come up that you would like us to consider for your options when we look at budget and budget reductions and increases. In addition, if you want, during, at the end of the day, we can have public works here to talk about, I believe, the construction sequencing that's going on in MacArthur and how we handle that. And then we can, you can provide direction or not at that time. Thank you. That's exactly what I'd like to see happen. Thank you. I just have a couple quick acknowledgements. It's, it's a great day, you know, to sit up here when you are able to solve some resident issues and problems. So recently in my district, district, about a year or so ago, it came to my attention. There was a retired senior citizen, 88-year-old female, widowed for 20 years, who had been living the summer, all summer, last summer, in triple digits with no air conditioning. So Michelle Miller and Health and Human Services, certainly we tried to work to fit that in the box. This income restricted, you know, insurance is on the rise. So I started reaching out to some nonprofits and businesses in our community. And I just wanted to give them some recognition. We had AC Care, which is a local air conditioning business, who really stepped up and, you know, provided a solution. And part of that, they provided the funding. And Council on Aging provided a significant amount of funding. We had a private donor, which had just found out through the grapevine that this person needed help. And this person is Big D Paving from Palm Beach County, even. So he provided a significant donation. So I wanted to thank him and the Firefighter Benevolent Association. So those three, Council on Aging, Big D Paving, Firefighter Benevolent, and AC Care, significant contributions to help this resident who would have lived another summer in 100-degree temperatures without air conditioning. So I wanted to just say thank you to them. And, again, it's a great day when you're able to resolve a problem for a resident. So I appreciate their help. Cool. Commissioner Campy. I'm okay. I'm set. Okay. As far as my world, hopefully Bridge Road will be open this afternoon after our little breeze that we had down there and knocked over our precious trees. The team did an excellent job of standing those up. Yeah. Well, unfortunately, I think we're going to probably lose a few that we need to come up with a plan of what we're going to do in the future. Just for how many were knocked over? Twenty-two. Twenty-two. Seven. Explain what you're talking about. Some people don't know. The ficus trees, which are not banyan trees. They're not the banyan species of ficus. They're actually nidida. Twenty-two of those were knocked down during the tornado that went down Bridge Road that kind of, like, went right down Bridge Road. Unfortunately, it also tore up a lot of our foliage that were planted on our Bridge Road Improvement CRA project. Those poor silver buttonwood were snapped off at the ground. So we've got to address that. But 22 of those trees went down. They do go down during hurricanes. I've personally been dealing with that for 35 years of my life. Every hurricane that comes down, two or three, four of them go down. We've never had this many go down, and we've never had this much physical breakage and damage to the trees. Some of them, I was looking at the tree, were actually screwed out of the ground, you know, and there's really no root structure left. So, you know, we're doing the best we can to stand them back up, but the survival, I'm just concerned that a few of them aren't going to make it. But we're doing the best we can. We've got it cleaned up. But it was an amazing path. It was dead straight, you know, and it was not only the trees. The trees is what got everybody's attention, but they're a block to the north and a block to the south of the path. There were roofs taken off and damaged, you know, people's personal property were damaged. Thank God nobody got hurt. But it wasn't just the trees. It was – Well, there was a nursery school that had 150 students in it at the same time, so congratulations and thanks to those staff members and teachers at that nursery school. It's not like they could put all the kids in the basement. There are no basements, so they had to have 150 students and staff, weather. And if you saw the pictures, that tornado hit that building, smashed their windows and everything else. So you can imagine as a parent that if you had your precious child in a nursery school and then you got the call that everybody was safe. So it was a lot of blessings that day. I had three of my granddaughters in dance camp. It's a little dance studio next to scooters in the Winn-Dixie Shopping Center. And part of the roof came off with all these little kids in that, and that had to be horrific experience for them. Next year they're going to do a show of Wizard of Oz. Yeah. No doubt. No doubt. Commissioner Smith. And so I think, Carol, to the conclusion of that, and from what I've heard and we heard at the joint meeting, that the organizational structure that came together instantaneously and responded was really amazing. And I think that just goes to prove that all the training, all the work, all the effort and energy that goes into dealing with any kind of issue, you name it, whatever you want to call it, we have great staff. We have great coordination effort with all of our various agencies that we work with. And Don and your staff and legal and everybody else did an amazing job doing what they need to do. Great. One little hitch to the getup is, you know, a hurricane we got a couple of days heads up to actually secure some equipment and mobilize and get ready. This is not that case. So there was a lot of scrambling on a lot of difference. This was a team effort between a lot of different contractors, town of Jupiter Island, the county, fire rescue, the sheriff's department, and everybody came together and got it done, or getting it done. So anyway. All right. You're gone. Yeah. If you could just – I have to weigh in just a little bit. I was going to bring it up at the end of the day, but it's important to note that it is a team effort on this. The tornado, of course, ripped through Bridge Road as described. We have an agreement that the county does with the town of Jupiter Island to allow them to – even though they're in the public right-of-way, the town really manages those trees cooperatively with us. You know, typically like FEMA events, they just want you to cut them down and remove it. But that's not the case here. So one of the things fire rescue did right away is establish a contingent out on the island, a rescue and a fire equipment. Our public works working with the Jupiter Island secured a pathway so we could get in and out if we needed to. It certainly was not safe to have vehicles come through there or pedestrians as our – in addition, our bridge crossing guards were ripped out. So – and it's also important, though, just that the town actually hires all the contractors. They're all working for Jupiter Island, and it's fortunate that we have a nice small-town landscaper down in Hope Sound that came to – that was the only one to secure a crane to actually get the work done. So anyway – He was employed by the county. He was employed by the – It was employed by the town of Jupiter Island. I just want to – you know, given some of the stuff we read online, I just want to make sure you understood. There was a very cooperative effort, and thank you to the contractors that came in and worked closely with both fire rescue, public works, and the town staff, really. Stuart Trent has been really great to work with. So thank you. No doubt. Okay. And with that, we are going to move on to public hearing quasi-additional number one. Elizabeth – Where is she? Yes, she is. She's coming. I see her out there. I see if she's actually running, which is good. Ex parte. Yeah. Well, I was waiting for everybody to get here. Elizabeth, we saw you running. Good for you. Like that effort. Okay. Well, we're – do we have any ex parte? Commissioner Smith? I had you in there filed. Commissioner Hetherington? I do, and they're filed. I do, and they've been filed, Commissioner. I do, and they've been filed. I do, and they've been filed. Okay. Echoing here. Would everybody like to stand and be sworn in that's going to give testimony? Raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Okay. And all the proper paperwork has been turned in with your resume and all that? Yes? No? Yes? I'm turning it in now. Okay. So, copy of my work history. Copy of my work history and agenda item is turned in as Exhibit 1, and the applicant's resume is turned in as Exhibit 2. You're going to have to speak up. It's hard to hear you. Copy of my work history and agenda item is turned in as Exhibit 1, and a copy of the applicant's work history is turned in as Exhibit 2. Is there any intervenors? There are no intervenors. Okay. Did I miss anything? No. Proof of public notice was turned in at the LPA meeting. Perfect. Thank you. Okay. Please proceed. Okay. Good morning. Elizabeth Noggle, Development Review Administrator. We're here this morning to talk about Treasure Coast Classical Academy. This is a request for a major final site plan approval by Treasure Coast Classical Academy, Inc. This is a request for a major final site plan approval to construct a 31,700-square-foot high school addition and the associated infrastructure. The site is 19.48 acres. It's located at 1400 Southeast Cove Road on the south side of Southeast Cove Road, approximately 0.3 miles west of Southeast Alt Avenue in Stewart. The existing future land use is a state density to UPA, and the zoning is RE-1.5A. So this is a straight zoning project. The existing parcel of the Treasure Coast Classical Academy is outlined on the left picture. On the right picture is the extended parcel. Again, this proposal is for a 31,700-square-foot high school building. The proposal also includes expanded internal queuing lanes, internal to the site, an expanded right-turn deceleration on Southeast Cove Road, a new turf field, additional parking and a revised PAMP for the wetlands on the new parcel. That's better. This is the site plan with Southeast Cove Road on the right side. I've highlighted the existing school and the existing parking and the existing entrance to the site at the signalized entrance. The proposed school is referenced here in the new turf field and new parking and the expanded queuing lanes that circulate around the site with the drop-off for the school children. Development review staff has reviewed the application and does find it in compliance with all applicable regulations, and the comprehensive growth management plan is detailed in the attached staff report and does recommend approval. Public hearing was held before the local planning agency on June 6, 2024. The LPA recommended approval 3 to 1. Recommended action is to move that the board receive and file the agenda item and all attachments, including the staff report as Exhibit 1. Move that the board adopt a resolution approving the revised final site plan for Treasure Coast Classical Academy and move that the board approve the amended PAMP. We're happy to answer any questions, and the applicant is also here with their team. Any questions for staff? Not yet. Seeing none. Good morning, commissioners. For the record, my name is Bob Rains. I'm a land use attorney with the Gunster Law Firm here on behalf of Treasure Coast Classical Academy. We appreciate the opportunity to be here this morning, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for also accommodating our parents and students this morning by getting us up a little earlier. We appreciate that. You know, there's a lot of misconceptions that go forward with what items that come before you, and I don't think a lot of the public realizes a lot of times that there are items that whether you like them or not, you have to approve because they're buy-right property rights. And what that means for the public is that all we have to do under buy-right situation is show that we meet the rules and regulations of Martin County, the Comprehensive Plan and Land Development Regulations. And that's the item that's before you today. This is a straight zoning. We're not asking for a rezoning. We're not asking for a future land use amendment. We're not asking for a PUD. This is a buy-right request before this board this morning. So our job today is to prove that we meet all the rules and regulations and provide evidence to that fact. And that's the only question before you today whether we do that job. And I think we'll do that. I'd like to start out to do that by stating for the record that we have received the staff report and we agree with the staff recommendation of approval. And I would like to begin by asking Ms. Noggle a couple of questions if it's okay with you, Mr. Chairman. So, Ms. Noggle, you gave your work history, correct? Correct. And as part of the staff report, there's a section called Comprehensive Plan Section F, Comprehensive Plan, which states that there has to be a determination of compliance with the Comprehensive Growth Management Plan requirements by the Growth Management Department. And that's your job to do, correct? And I'd like to read the recommendation that came forward with respect to Section F, whether this complies with the Comprehensive Growth Management Plan. And staff has reviewed this application and finds that it complies with the LDRs as detailed within the report. Staff recommends approval of this development application as consistent with the guidelines and standards of the applicable comprehensive plans, goals, objectives, and policies as implemented in the LDR. Is that your recommendation? Correct. Once we have a compliance findings from all of the development review reviewers' departments, that is when that compliance statement is inserted into the staff report. And that recommendation still stands today? Correct. Yes, it does. Okay. And then you're also responsible for Section G of the staff report, which is a determination of compliance with land use, site design standards, zoning, and procedural requirements. Is that correct? And the recommendation in the staff report reads, staff has reviewed this application and finds that it complies with the LDRs, that's the land development regulations, as detailed within this report. Staff recommends approval of this development application as consistent with the guidelines and standards of the applicable comprehensive goals, policies, objectives, as implemented in the LDRs, the land development regulations, which implement the Comprehensive Plan, correct? And is that your recommendation? Yes. And does that still stand today? Yes. Thank you. I did have a question. Is Lucas Lambert here today? Yeah, he's over there. Yeah. Luke, you're not getting off. Can you find me? One quick question for Mr. Lambert. He was sworn in. You were sworn in, sir? Yes. And can you just, can you just briefly tell me what your role in this, in the staff report was? I'm responsible for reviewing the traffic impact analysis that the developer submits. Okay. And so in the staff report, that's section K, determination of compliance with the transportation requirements, correct? Yes. And in here I'm reading the finance of compliance is that the traffic division of the Public Works Department finds this application in compliance. Is that your statement? Yes. And is that recommendation still hold today? Yes. Okay. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I would at this time like to ask Jordan Haggerty to come up and give you just a short presentation, if we, if he could on exactly what the school's doing and some of the things that we think are going to be very good for this project out there. So Mr. Haggerty, if you could come up and I have a couple of questions for him briefly. Mr. Haggerty, have you been sworn in? Yes, I have. Okay. Can you state your name and record? Jordan Haggerty. And can you give us a brief description of your work history and your education background? Yes. I'm a licensed professional civil engineer who works for Kimley Horne and Associates. Okay. And can you describe the document that I'm handing you? A work experience resume. And is that a current and accurate description of the resume? Yes. Real quick too, by the way, I just noticed in the staff recommendation, this was part of our exhibit two that Ms. Noggle put into the record. But I did notice that during the recommendation, there was an approval to exhibit one. We'd also like for the record to reflect exhibit two, which was our resumes and work history also be included in the recommendation of approval if we're, if we get that far. So at this time, let me let Mr. Haggerty go ahead and do it. Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Chairman and commissioners. As stated, my name is Jordan Haggerty with Kimley Horne. I'm a licensed professional civil engineer and here today to provide a brief presentation on the Treasure Coast Classical Academy expansion. And a lot of the items you'll hear are in addition to what Ms. Noggle has already presented. As stated, this is a request for a new 31,700 square foot high school building, an addition of turf athletic recreation field, and then the expansion of the onsite circulation lanes and the extension of the existing Cove Road right turn lanes. That I'll explain in a little bit more detail. Here's an aerial view of the existing facility. You can see the existing school building, the existing parking, as mentioned, with the outline of the proposed addition and additional improvements. I would like to highlight the green turf field that would be added for recreation and sports uses. The yellow building is the actual facility that would house the high school components. The orange is the additional queuing and onsite vehicle storage that would be allowed for pickup and drop off. Otherwise known as the car line. Correct. Yes, sir. That's what most people will know. Yes, yes, the car line. As well as the highlighted extension of the existing Cove Road right turn lane. So as you can see here, with the proposed expansion of this facility, there is substantial more car line that would be available, which includes an additional entire third lane off of the existing car line facility, which allows for multiple stations for pickup and drop off operations with the necessary sidewalk and safety facilities to accommodate those operations. So the yellow is a comparison of what would be brand new additional car line queuing and stacking, which provides additional space for 67 more vehicles. Um, in the, in the existing configuration, there's approximately 153, um, spaces available for car line. And then this exhibit here, the yellow is highlighting the extension of the existing right turn lane, uh, where the highlighting ends is, is the limits of the existing right turn lane. And you can see we're more than doubling, excuse me, the, the total length of the existing right turn lane, which will also help with, with traffic operations and queuing on Cove Road to minimize, uh, disruptions to, to, uh, commuters and other residents. And this increased length will be approximately 515 feet. As Mr. Raines has stated, this is an excerpt from the Martin County staff report, which shows a comply and a recommendation of approval. And, and just reiterating a few conclusion items. This is an existing use that's allowed by right. And we are just requesting an extension or an expansion. I'm sorry. And then there are no variants or waivers that are being requested as a part of this application. And as a part of this development order, we will provide the expanded infrastructure to accommodate the, uh, the additional facilities. Thank you. And Mr. Haggerty, just a couple of quick questions. Uh, you're familiar with the rules and regulations of the comprehensive plan for Martin County and the land development regulations. I am. And in your professional opinion, does this project meet those requirements? Yes. Thank you. Uh, commissioner, I have just one more quick witness. Mr. Haggerty, thank you very much. Your last comment, you said that you guys are going to expand the right turning lane, 515 feet for lay people. Can you give us an idea about how approximately how many cars that would mean? Uh, not 10 feet of car. Yeah. So roughly 18 feet of car divided by 515 feet would be, you know, approximate number additional vehicles. Now, if they are with the current section being only the gray area on this diagram, um, all the cars that are trying to turn in currently have to back out into the travel lanes, correct? So this would be alleviating cars that are, once you fill this right lane before the cars can pull into the property, everybody else is stacked behind that, which would be the lane that, that. And commissioner, if I could, I actually have our traffic consultant here. Beautiful. He might be the right person. I was just going to bring him up next and he might be the right person to answer those. I wasn't sure who was coming next. Mr. Haggerty is more in charge of the engineering stuff. I can play multiple videos. He was the one who mentioned it. Yeah. No, no. Well, yeah. And the presentation, no, I just want to help you get your correct answers for you. Uh, I'd like at this time to have Mr. Kerr come up. Uh, Mr. Kerr, have you been sworn in? I have. Can you please state your name for the record, sir? Adam Kerr. And can you please state, uh, your qualifications in education? I'm a registered professional engineer in the state of Florida. I've been practicing traffic engineering for over 22 years and I have a bachelor of science and civil engineering in, uh, uh, from Clemson University. And do you, yeah, do you, sir, recognize that, uh, document? I do. I do. Can you describe that very quickly? Uh, that is my most recent CV. Okay. Thank you. And I would like for the record to reflect this was also was part of our exhibits in exhibit two for the record. Uh, Mr. Kerr, real quick question and I'll let you answer, uh, Commissioner Campy's questions. Uh, in your role was to review the staff or the traffic for this project. Yes. And sir. And you're familiar with the rules and regulations for Morton County. I am. And in your professional opinion, does this meet those rules and regulations and comply? It does. Okay. And you might want to, Commissioner, I'll turn him over to you. All right. Thank you, Mr. Kerr. Same question. Um, the current right turning lane in, um, deceleration lane or whatever, how many cars does it currently can fit in there approximately? So the, the current turn lane is, uh, just over 300 feet long. So at about roughly 20 feet conservatively per, um, you know, per, per vehicle, you're looking at around 15 or so vehicles in there with the new, with the extension, that would be an additional 20 to 25 vehicles that could queue in that turn lane without blocking the through traffic on Cove Road. Thank you. Commissioners, uh, that concludes our presentation. I think again, as I mentioned at the beginning, our goal is to show through competent, substantial evidence that we meet all the rules and the regulations. I think we've done that not only through your staff, but with the, uh, witnesses that we have here today. Uh, therefore we would respectfully request that you approve the item before you today, and we'll be glad to answer any questions you might have. Commissioner Hurd. Yeah. How many students fit in the 32,000 square foot new building? Highest number. Anticipated to be 400 additional students. That's it. Okay. Commissioner Campy. Is that a public comment? Oh yeah. We do a public comment. Uh, T Mark Green followed by Carrie Botswell. Thank you so much commissioners. And thank you so much for the work that you do to selflessly, self selfless, selfishly serve our community every day. Um, I am Mark Green on behalf of the French coast classical, uh, Academy every day at TCCA. We begin our day at eight o'clock with a moment of virtue that virtue by our students, uh, centers their day. We then go into a moment of silence as directed by our governor and then the pledge of allegiance to the flag, and then recite our mission together as a school. Two of our main goals found in our mission is to train the minds and improve the hearts of young people at TCCA. We believe that learning to become healthy citizens is a large component of education. A healthy citizen contributes to their community, uh, through development of healthy relationships within their families and demonstrated integrity within their employment. This healthy citizen respects all people, regardless of race, regardless of economic status, religion, or orientation. At TCCA, our goal is to raise good humans who understand that life is bigger than themselves and who seek to serve as a matter of life philosophy. Within the mission, we cultivate the following virtues of our students that include courage, courtesy, honesty, perseverance, self-government, which is basically self-control of your actions and deeds, service, and responsibility to all that you do as a citizen. Commissioners, you could greatly assist us in our mission by approving this site plan to expand our facilities. By doing so, you will expand the opportunity, uh, for these students to become a positive impact in their community and to create the best life possible for them and their families through an education that not only addresses their minds, but also addresses their hearts. Please join us in that effort. And again, we thank you for your service and all that you do, and God bless you and your families. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Carrie Botwell, followed by Nicole Ferguson. Good morning, commissioners. My name is Carrie Botwell. Our son, Ace, has attended TCCA since August of 2020. He is currently 11 years old and about to enter sixth grade at the academy. We chose TCCA as the educational facility for our son because of its focus on language, the arts, and a classical curriculum, but also because of the emphasis the school places on character growth, responsibility, and moral virtues. But what we found after we enrolled Ace far exceeded our expectations. His love of learning and learning retention skyrocketed. His relationships with teachers administrators were so positive. They know him by name and he's excited to see them and sad even to say goodbye on the last day of school. The accessibility we have as parents to the faculty and the level of professionalism they demonstrated has blown us away. We had two foster girls enrolled there while they were in our care, and a team of staff, including speech therapists, counselors, teachers, principals, and deans met with us to support the girls in their struggles and come up with a comprehensive plan to help them succeed on the spot. It was beyond helpful and so unexpected. We know that our son is safe at TCCA with a zero tolerance policy for bullying and aggression. Here, he is not a number shuffled from school to school as he ages. With the approval of the expansion, he will graduate knowing the same smiling faces who supported him with his entire education and brought out the best in our son. Thank you. All right, and Nicole Ferguson is the last speaker form I have. If anybody else would like to speak, please fill out a form. Good morning. Sorry, just a little nervous. Nicole Ferguson, I moved here in early 2017. We are an active duty family. Chose Treasure Coast Classical Academy because I wanted something different for my last baby. And we are so excited and happy. Everything that you just heard from Mr. Green, what you have heard from the other parent is the reason why we chose this school. This expansion is something that we are excited about. We need, we want. I don't know where I would be without this school. Um, it's very passionate to us. Um, it's absolutely amazing, uh, to watch my daughter's growth. Um, she's in summer school and last week with the tornadoes. One of the things that as, as the schools, during the school shootings and different things like that, I would draw a little heart, um, on her wrist with a sharpie. And I always told her, like, if you ever got scared, you see that heart on your wrist. She got in the car last Thursday after the tornadoes. She said, I said, how was your day? She said, mommy, I was scared. Look, I put her a little heart on my wrist. I said, but you were safe. And she says, I'm always safe here. That is the school that we have at TCCA. She knows that she is safe. That is the environment that they have created. And as a mom, I am so grateful for my husband's getting ready to deploy. And I know I have my village behind me and that's TCCA. That is the culture that we have created. They have created for, for our scholars. So I pray that you guys approve this for us, for our amazing County. And one of the things that I am scared of is that knowing that I'm going to be coming, my husband's going to be coming up on orders and I'm staying in Martin County because I love this County. I've been here since 2017 and I'm not going anywhere and that's because of you guys. So thank you. All right. And with that, Commissioner Campy. Thank you very much. Excuse me. When this agenda item came up, I was actually happy and thankful because it shows a natural progression of the exciting and terrific work you've been doing. I remember when TCCA was first being discussed as a possibility had been to some of the school board meetings where passionate parents and, and I guess administrators were talking about this concept of bringing TCCA to Martin County. And back then they were only offering promises, but you've delivered on the promises. And I know that even though my children are long out of school age, actually out of college age, but they were in, in school when you were getting started. And so many families that I'm friends with in Palm city and elsewhere in the County rave about the TCCA. I remember first being invited to tour it when you were in the temporary location on 34th street. I work on 34th street. So I was very aware of what that was like every day. And then when we toured it, it was really a whole series of portables that were designed in such a way with an outside walkway that it seemed like it could be permanent. That's how well done it was. And they opened the doors and allowed us to come in and see some of the classes. And the kids all immediately stood up and they acknowledged us. And then they went through the mission and then we just sat and observed for a while. And I was thinking how remarkable. Then you had the opportunity to move on to Cove Road. And I also had the honor of being there for the first day and the ribbon cutting and the, and the excitement and the kids were so proud of their brand new school. And so were the grownups and the parents and the administrators. And I'm thinking, wow, this is perfect. So now to get to participate in your expansion to the high school plan is just magical. At my church, there's a young gentleman who's an altar server. And I've served with him a couple of times and he's standing in the back of the room before church starts. And I said, his name is Matthew and he's in sixth grade. And I said, hey, where do you go to school? And he goes, CCCA. And now as a sixth grader, I knew that, you know, he's getting into the middle school ages. I said to him, well, on Tuesday, I don't think he had any idea what I was talking about, but on Tuesday I will be voting and hopefully enough of my colleagues will be voting so that you can go to high school at the TCCA. And his face just lit up because prior to that, everyone, as they get to that age, to that grade, they had to go somewhere else. So for the ability to transition and stay there and finish out their education without being disrupted, imagine living in your own home, but basically having to move schools, which is always a disruption for young people. And if not necessary, then why do it? So with that, it is my honor to say thank you. Thank you for giving, look, my kids were products of the Martin County School District and did very well. And I have nothing but praise for our public school teachers and the public school system. Now, I know this system, not ours, but public schools in general get pretty beat up on and always blamed if the kids don't turn out perfect. But we are very fortunate here to have a remarkable public school system, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't have options. And I think, you know, whether it's the Pine School or religious education, but adding TCCA to that mix, to that opportunities for parents to have makes Martin County as special as it is. So it's my honor to definitely make the motion to accept, uh, to approve your expansion. Thank you. Commissioner Heather. I, I would simply echo just about every single one of your comments, Commissioner Campy and say that I'm, I'm glad that, you know, that this school has been a success. My last baby just graduated Martin County high school. And had you been around a little bit sooner, um, the older one probably would have attended TCCA. So, um, I'm happy for your success. I think the additional car line and stacking is going to be immensely, um, helpful in the area. And then we'll move on to our responsibility of Cove Road. And I will say, Lord knows we need indoor recreation facilities for our students. So I'm happy to have, um, you have that for our students. Hopefully in the future, there might be an opportunity for you to even partner with some of the rec leagues like TC rec ball. And, um, I think what you're doing and what you've done is exciting and I wish you the best. And I will gladly second your motion. Commissioner Smith. It's great when you get to go third, because everything's already been said. Um, to the, you're the one with the school age child and you're the one with the future school age child. That seems hard to believe, doesn't it? Um, uh, no, to the, to the, to the commissioner's comments and to the parents, um, specifically, uh, thank you for coming. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Um, especially our, our veterans family. Um, active duty. It's, it's super important to have the acknowledgement of, of what's going on and what has happened, the success of what's going on. Uh, the, the choice that you have all made, um, to go to TCCA, um, as commissioner Campy and Heatherington said, options are a good thing. Um, there's not one size that fits all. Uh, Ed and I've had the privilege and Sarah has been here to have seen this since its inception. Uh, I too got to be at the ribbon cutting that day and the, the enthusiasm, the excitement was fantastic. A name that we should never let, uh, go too far from the involvement is Steve Barney and, and his involvement in the program, uh, in the very beginning. Um, you know, a lot of things happen in this county that some people don't tie all the dots together, but the Barney family, um, certainly has played a major role in this community and continues, uh, with, uh, what's happening out west. And, um, they're choosing to sell their property to a project that is going to do something really, really good and exciting with that property. Um, when, when the Barney family could have gone in a completely opposite direction of where it was going, um, they took the chance to do something different and then they took this chance and, and got involved with you all. And it's been super, super exciting to watch what's happening. And this is yet the next phase of it all. Uh, so congratulations to all of you for what you're doing. Um, I do have a three and a half plus, um, that we're not sure exactly where she's going just yet. She will tell us, um, she already seems to be pretty much in charge. And, and, and I tell everybody that she pretty much talks already like a 10 year old. Um, so when she tells us what she's going to do, I guess that's what we will end up doing. Um, but I'm more than happy to support the motion that has been made and I wish you all the very best of luck. And hopefully, uh, sooner than later, we will get to the improvements on Cove Road, uh, that I wished had been done sooner. Um, cause that'll make a big difference down there, but nonetheless, it's in the queue and, um, it'll make it much better for the future. Thank you all. Commissioner Hurd. Yeah. Clearly, uh, by all accounts, Treasure Coast Classical Academy provides a wonderful education, uh, the education and, and character development that the Treasure Coast Classical Academy provides is fantastic, but education doesn't fall under county commissioners responsibilities. Our responsibilities instead focus on infrastructure provision, adequate infrastructure provision, safe infrastructure provision, following the rules. And Cove Road is currently, uh, operating at level of service F. That means it's failed. And Cove Road is not going to be widened for another eight or 10 years. And clearly right now, a big part of the failure of Cove Road is because of the, the car lines at the TCCA, it's my, the residents are at a meltdown point, uh, when, when, when, in the morning and in the afternoon, when the school begins and when it lets out, my residents are, um, well, as I say, they're, they're ready, they're ready to melt down because the traffic is so congested every single morning. So this looks to compound that problem that already exists with no solutions, providing, uh, 67 interior spaces and 20 more stacking spaces on Cove Road isn't going to solve the problem. Not when you're going to add up to 400 new students with no additional buses. So every one of those children has to be taken to school by someone. Um, when I met with the applicant earlier, I said, why didn't you consult with Chick-fil-A and figure out how to, how to put more capacity on your parcel? And there just isn't enough. This, this spot is inadequate for your goals. So I'm not going to be supporting this. I, I certainly support the, uh, Treasure Coast Classical Academy supports your expansion, but man, this is not the right spot in order to, to, uh, create that additional capacity. It's already over capacity. And this is just going to exacerbate the problem with no solution in sight. Commissioner, just, I actually was just coming up because I just wanted to, uh, make a, make sure of a point of order that our exhibit two, uh, with our agenda packet was received into evidence. I just wanted to make sure with the lease and that that was taken care of so that when we get approved, so that was the only reason I was going to come up. The only other comment I would make since Commissioner Hurd made some comments is that, uh, you know, the traffic issues on Cove Road are not the applicant's fault and that doesn't prohibit them from moving forward with their property rights. And, you know, my recollection was that, you know, unfortunately this road should have been four lane previously. I don't recall the exact circumstances. Maybe somebody can refresh my memory as to why it wasn't four lane previously already. But, uh, anyway, that's, uh, again, we do meet the rules and regulations. Uh, so, and we are entitled to be approved and that's how I'll leave it. Thank you. Elise Helter, deputy county attorney to accommodate Mr. Raines request. We would need to amend the motion in order to add exhibit two, because I do not believe that was in staff's recommendation. So motion or agrees. Second or increase. Commissioner Campy. I understand what my colleague is saying about Cove Road. We've heard people come here and say the same thing, uh, about that. Mr. Raines is not wrong. During my absence from the board, a decision that was already in the works to move Cove Road towards, uh, uh, improvements and, and much more efficient was derailed. I wasn't here to witness it firsthand, but that's, that's what we heard. But that being said, one of the speakers said the same thing that I was thinking this morning is that anybody that lives near any of our schools, especially the elementary schools, Palm city elementary school originally, as I mentioned earlier about 34th street, my kids car lined on 34th street, the traffic went, the car line went from the gate at the Western end, uh, the end of 34th street, all the way to map road. And everyone that lived on 34th street or off of 34th street, off a little dead end, had to deal with the car line for decades. Then when they redid the school, they moved the entrance, the, uh, the drop off and the pickup to Palm city school Avenue, which is off of Martin highway. And before they were done with the final field construction and creating the additional car line loop, the cars would stack on Martin highway of all places all the way back. Matheson, uh, Bessie Creek. That's why I was asking about the turn in lanes school board member, Deter, Lizzie, and I stood out there with the administration and the parents at the beginning drop off in the morning. And at the end, pick up in the afternoon and realized there's a problem. The cars were stacking and blocking Matheson all over the place. And the district and our staff, we worked to extend Jim Gordon standing right there. He was standing out there with us that day. And we extended the turning lanes in, and the center turning lanes as much as we could crystal Lake in front of a 96th street car line Willoughby car line blocks the road. But here's the thing. It blocks the road for about a half an hour in the morning, 180 days a year. That's it. And then it doesn't block the car lane for the afternoon rush hour because kids get out of school at two or three o'clock, not five or five 30. So from my point of view, I don't disagree with what my colleague is saying. And it is something that Cove Road is, as Commissioner Smith said, we are addressing. We, that's our responsibility, not yours. That's our job to make sure that the roads are working as efficiently as possible and they get grades. So I don't know if I would blame the TCCA. And a couple other points just for the record, this is going to be a high school expansion. Many of those kids won't be getting dropped off by mom or dad. They will be driving their cars. If they're like any other high school kid, they'll be driving onto the campus and parking and staying there. And the expansion of the school also expands dramatically the car line loop and the stacking and the roads. So some of Bessie Creek's, excuse me, some of Cove Road's issues will be addressed by the improvements that you're making on your dollar that will also benefit Cove. And so I hear my colleagues' concerns. I believe that they're valid, but in no way would dissuade me from continuing for what you're trying to do there. Because every year that you're not there is a group of students that have to pass through without getting the opportunity to be in your educational care. So I think for me, that definitely tips the scale to a yes. Commissioner Smith? Just a couple other points, because I was here when that happened with Cove. My understanding or memory was that 2017 it was to have been under construction, which would have had it done well in advance of this. And somewhere between 2017 and today, the legislature also changed the game relative to concurrency, which used to require us to build capacity prior to something being built. All those rules have changed at the state level, which we have no control over. And so, you know, something that's important to remember, and I think it's worth talking about, is that, you know, sometimes decisions that get made, whether it's the MPO, whether it's the county commission, people go, oh, okay, there's a list with a bunch of, yesterday we had our MPO meeting, and there's a list of priorities on that list. They all mean something. There really is a purpose for doing these things. And these projects, like four landing of Cove Road, take seven to ten years to happen. And when you pull them off that priority list as if it never existed, the state backs away from it. They stop planning. They stop working on it. We had an instance with Commissioner Hetherington yesterday on a project she's been working on for, I don't know, four or five years to try to get a neighborhood's capacity problem, safety problem dealt with. And that neighborhood chose to change direction. Fair enough. That was their choice. But if that decision comes back again, removing it from the priority with where it was sitting and the fact that FDOT has now stopped working on it sets it back probably five or six years from ever happening. And so for residents, for all you folks that are here today and those who are watching, it's just always important to remember that what may seem kind of like benign decisions that get made actually have real impacts in the long run. I believe with what you all have done with your site plan, I think that third lane, I think the stacking capacity, the additional capacity going around the southwest corner will in fact add a tremendous amount of capacity to your school day. The stacking lane or the right-hand turn lane out on Cove, I think will help a lot. And clearly down the road when we get to the four laning of Cove, that'll change the dynamics significantly. And if Amelia does end up going there, I guess I'll have to figure out if that stacking really worked or not. So we'll see in the future. Not too far down the road, actually. Well, to Commissioner Hurd's point, you could get the folks from Chick-fil-A to be crossing guards. I don't think that's going to... Okay. With that, do we have any other comments or whatever? So we have a motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Hatherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries four to one. Commissioner Hurd dissenting. At this point, we're going to take our 1030 closed captioning break. And when we come back, we're going to take up the two consent polls. You want anything? Okay. Welcome back to our commission meeting. And we are going to take up consent poll number seven, Business Development Board of Martin County Annual Report. Good morning, Mr. Chair. George Stokes, Assistant Accounting Administrator. Before you today was a consent item from the Business Development Board of Martin County, as required by their contract to provide an annual report to the Martin County Board of Commissioners, I think you'll find that it is attached to the item. It is a little bit different than previous. The BDB did not... They are in an interim director position, as well as they've seen some staffing changes in their organization. And we felt it would be better to come back at a later date to provide some presentation and update. But as you know, Mr. Chair, you are also the liaison for that committee. But I am here and more than happy to answer any questions or address any comments or concerns. We're getting to the Business Development Board. Commissioner Hurd. How long have we been providing support to the Business Development Board? I believe the Business Development Board was created at the change of the comp plan or the addition of the economic element to the comp plan. I'm not aware of the exact date in which you guys started that. I've been employed with Martin County since 2010, and I know it has existed previous to that. So I don't know the exact date in which it started. Well, we contribute $450,000 a year. And if it's been 20 years, that means we've contributed $8 million at least. And I want to know what we've gotten for our $8 million. And as I ask every year, it was always supposed to be that the Business Development Board was going to be working on recruiting funding from the private sector. And yet, that has been anemic the entire time. It's anemic this year also. The county's providing $450,000 and local investor income is $58,000. It doesn't seem like the private sector is interested in this. It doesn't seem like they're contributing to Business Development Board. And it also looks like the lion's share of the investment that Martin County is making. $350,000 a year is going into salaries and benefits. So I, once again, question the wisdom of continuing to fund the Business Development Board when it apparently has absolutely no interest in becoming self-funding. And also, this isn't a report. It's just a budget. There's no information that's provided about what successes, what's been done. Commissioner Smith. So I think with any conversation like this, there's always an opportunity to do something or share some thoughts and ideas. Otherwise, with the five of us, we don't ever get to talk to each other. So the years I've been doing this, there have been multiple transitions between the BDB. We've gone from years of being focused on the contributory industry side of life here in Martin County to where we really thought from an employment to a tax base to anything that job creation would create would be of a benefit to our community, both from our residents having a place to work with good, valuable employment opportunities, but also on the contributory side that the idea behind the contributory piece of it was that the money that was being generated through a business would be coming in from the outside and not going to the outside. It wouldn't be leaving what was generated here, that it would stay here and contribute to our community and to the prosperity of our community. And I think there were a lot of years where when Ted Estoffi's involvement years ago were involved with that, Ted did a great job back then keeping it together, keeping the idea together of what that really looked like. His involvement at the state level was super back then and we made some headway. And then we went through some transitions and we had some great staff and we've had some not so good staff. And then there was a redirection from the county commission some years back that they wanted to not focus on a contributory industry. They wanted to focus on local business, which really was a significant divergence from the historical side of where it had come from. But to some extent, I think the BDB tried to move in that direction. And then there was another change again. Um, and it kind of came back to, we should be focusing on recruitment and, and retention, uh, not just contributory, but we also had a list of, uh, the priority industries that we were to focus on and we're going to focus on as a community that we were already good at and, and why create, recreate the wheel? I think George, what I, what I would like to at least share with the BDB, uh, from the board's perspective, from my board, from my seat's perspective is that I think there's the opportunity for yet another sort of, I wouldn't say correction, I would say addition to the requirements of what a new executive director would look like. Um, and part of that would be that we have six CRAs, um, that I felt for a very long time that it would be very helpful to have an expert in the recruitment, in the business development world that could focus on retail. Um, outside of other priorities as well, um, but the ability to have like a Bob Gibbs and I use Bob Gibbs because he is a renowned expert nationally and we use him at the regional planning council to advise us and communities that we work with at the regional planning council on looking at our traditional downtowns, looking at redevelopment areas and trying to understand the capacity of the community, uh, to, to add something to the mix, uh, but also the type of mix and the type of capacity that you would add. And I think all of our neighborhoods, Ed's is starting to, you know, bloom out in Palm city with his patio project and other things with the map road redo. Uh, there's some new construction out there, which is exactly what a lot of this was all about to get to us to a point to where, um, some things that needed some infill would actually start to happen. But I think there's another level of expertise that's needed out there and whether it was on our staff here at the County or whether it was at the BDB, I would just hope that the BDB board looks to, um, when they're looking at resumes, when they're calling through people that, um, might be the next generation of what the BDB looks like, um, is that we really do add a, a major component of their focus to the redevelopment areas to focus on them as well. That we don't just let it be happen seek. I can tell you that in downtown Jensen, um, we go through cycles a lot. Um, and I can't help but think that sometimes had we had a better guidance, better advice as to recruiting, whether it's restaurants, retails, whatever it may be, um, the, the longevity and the success of those businesses wouldn't be better if we had recruited better or recruited at all, forget even better. So, um, anyway, that's it. Sure. Thank you. Mr. Campy. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um, I know that this was originally on the consent agenda and commissioner heard pulled it and she's asking some legitimate questions that, uh, it's not, I don't believe Mr. Stokas is responsibility on our behalf for the boards, excuse me, on the board's behalf to, to answer beyond the scope of how he is our liaison or you are our representative on the board. I think we need to, um, table this or have it come back with representatives. I don't know if they were told that it was being pulled, but it's hard to have this conversation without representatives, uh, from the business development board here. Uh, I know that they're going through a transition and that Dan Hudson has been working as their interim commissioner. Uh, commissioner Smith is not wrong that when you have an interim, uh, or a change in leadership, it's a good opportunity to, for us to re, uh, examine our relationship as well as to reaffirm what the expectation from the board is, uh, that in comes along with the funding that comes with that. Uh, like I know certain things anecdotally that I have been involved in with the business development board, um, local businesses in Palm city and elsewhere that have been very, um, complimentary to the assistance and the services that they've received from the BDB. But I can't be here, especially since I don't represent the board, I can't be here explaining those, those folks, the BDB needs to put a group of business success stories together and bring them here and let the folks from the business development board, even if it's Dan Hudson as the interim to respond to commissioner Hurd's questions. So I think I would make a motion that we, um, postpone this or reschedule it to a time when the folks from the business development board can come and make a presentation, not for us to be up here potentially, uh, just filling in our own, uh, our own experiences with, you know, pro or con with the business development board. That would be my suggestion. I'm sorry, old lane commissioner hurt. Yeah. My criticism is in no way directed at Mr. Stokas or commissioner Jenkins. Oh, I didn't take it that way. I didn't take it that way at all. Commissioner Smith. Yeah. If we're going to George, if we're going to come back with this, which is fine. Um, I think it would be helpful if, um, if Dan and yourself, um, met with an individually with us prior to, just to get sort of a, an understanding for, I, I know Dan very well and, and Dan is incredibly capable of doing whatever he's asked to do in, in his administrative level. Um, it just would be helpful. I think for all of us, certainly for me to, um, get a sense for where Dan is and, and where you are. Um, and so that Dan can hear from us one-on-one what we think and what we might be able to craft into an agenda item that would be helpful versus just an open conversation. I think that's the only way to do it because to be honest with you, I mean, I sit, I have the privilege of sitting through those board meetings. I hear the pulse reports. I hear, you know, the, the everything that the BDB is involved with and what they're working on. And, and oftentimes I go, you know, it's very hard to measure. It's the, what they're, what we're asking them to do is not a tangible. You're not going out and picking five oranges, right? You're, it is, um, something that if you're not intimately involved with the operations of what's going on, it's pretty impossible. I would assume to really kind of get a grasp on what the business development board does. I got to tell you, Dan, uh, is an amazing superstar. He, it's too bad, uh, that we can't keep him permanently because he is, um, you know, I've, I've witnessed two other cycles with the business development board and, uh, what he's, um, the footing he's putting it on right now, um, is sustainable. And, um, I just can't, he's just doing a great job. I'll just leave it at that. Thank you. All right. So you made a motion to reschedule this agenda item with the suggestions. Okay. We have any other comments. We have a motion by commissioner campy, seconded by commissioner Hetherington. All in favor. Aye. All opposed motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Second poll would be, um, request for contract renewal between Martin County and the solar and energy loan fund. Commissioner Hurt. I pulled this and I pulled it because we should be celebrating this. This is a wonderful program and we need to make residents aware of it so that they can, uh, avail themselves to the services that we are providing with this program. Good morning, commissioners. I'm Kimberly Levy. I'm your administrative services manager. I'm just going to go through briefly what the program is about and 2010, the state of Florida authorized the property, um, excess, assessed clean energy program, which allows through the tax collectors office for you as a homeowner to add things such as energy efficient, um, renewable energy, um, solar panels, ACs, and things of that nature to your property tax. And 2018, the board of County commissioners also approved this program, the PACE program and the, um, Martin County, um, ordinances. We, as an organization though, the PACE program, um, contractors must have a contract with or an agreement with Martin County. Those contractors are listed on our website. The difference between the PACE program and the SELF program, which is what you're approving today is that with the PACE program, you must have equity in your home to be able to have a loan agreement. What SELF does is one step further in administration in 2019, um, at the direction of Mr. Donaldson, our now County administrator, um, SELF, it's what SELF does is it also gives low energy, excuse me, low cost financing options to our citizens, but those citizens don't have to have that equity in their home. It gives a loan up to 8% for things such as our septic to sewer program and also their ACs, whether they need a roof repair, those types of things. Um, the program has been very successful and Martin County in the last five years, SELF has financed 298 homes improvement programs over $2 million. Septic to sewer is 175 septic sewer projects. And in that is over $1 million. This program we're asking right now that you will approve the contract for up to seven years. It's five years with two, one year renewals, and we'll continue this great program for our citizens. Great. Thank you. Motion. Move approval. Second. We have a motion by Commissioner Hurd, seconded by Commissioner Campy. All in favor. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Next up, Donna, Animal Care and Control Oversight Board appointment. Gordon for administration. Um, can't hear you for some reason. Didn't put the sheet up, but Ms. Uh, excuse me. Dr. Roderick M. Wood received five votes for the Animal Care and Control Oversight Board. Move approval. Second. Motion by Commissioner, um, Smith. Second by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor. Aye. All opposed. Motion carries unanimously. Public hearing number one, proposed transfer of county-owned properties for affordable housing purposes and adoption of a resolution revising the January 2024 affordable housing list. Ms. Carla Segura and Mr. George Stokas. Good morning again, Mr. Chair. George Stokas, Assistant County Administrator. Joining with me is Ms. Carla Segura, Real Property Manager. Uh, together we're going to go through a PowerPoint, very similar to what we presented to the public, regarding the transfer of county-owned property for affordable housing. Uh, this body saw this item previously at, I believe, uh, earlier in this year in around February. If you'll hold on for one second. Where is it? Is this it? The only meeting I've ever missed. Wonderful. Thank you, Donna. So for Martin County, between Martin County and other government entities and not-for-profits that, uh, you have over 5,800, you have over, you have 5,880 parcels that have to be reviewed per florist state statutes as, as well as what's put into the Live Local Act bill. From that 5,880, you actually individually own 1,097, uh, parcels. The majority of them being Palmar and 599, and those numbers, these numbers may have changed as the county continues to buy property or sell property. From that 1,097, you have nine remaining parcels that are with, uh, that are available for potentially residential structures as well as for affordable housing. However, three of them are airport noise mitigation properties, so they no longer count. Two are for park expansion. One is a utilities well abandonment is needed, and then three are owned by utilities and have to be sold at fair market value. Leading the final out of 5,088 parcels leaves you actually, and I apologize, there's a mistake with this slide. You had four parcels, however, um, one, the first one is 47th Street, the next one is Fairmont, and then the, uh, third one is Railway at Geraldine, and then there's a fourth one called Hawthorne in Golden Gate that we had added as staff because it became aware to us. 47th Avenue, um, I don't, Carla, what neighborhood would you say that's in? Uh, New Monrovia, I think. New Monrovia, 47th Avenue, it's a single family, uh, home parcel that the county owns. Fairmont is, and I apologize, Fairmont, we're taking off the list because it is now a part of the Camino Trail project. However, there are still parcels on Hawthorne, which is in Golden Gate, and then Railway and Geraldine. This was a parcel that was previously put out for RFQ and RFP for affordable housing. However, uh, it actually was the parcel that precipitated this conversation because the contractor in question couldn't bring the home price below, I believe, $350,000 or $400,000. So that's kind of the breakdown of the, um, the parcels. I'll go back to the board here in a moment, but I did want to show you this slide. Uh, we did hold a public meeting with all the not-for-profit partners. We did reach, actively reach out and communicate to them, both email, social media, as well as we did have an advertised public meeting. It was very well attended. Um, I don't remember if you're, when any of you were there, perhaps Commissioner Campy, I don't remember. Um, you did a nice job. Thank you very much. And then I would say there was probably about 50, 50 to 60 people here in this chamber. It's pretty full. So it was very well attended. We did get some, um, very good feedback. Uh, the public is very interested to any parcel that we put forward, uh, that it kind of fit the dynamics of the community. If it's in an NAC, the public wanted to go back to the, I'm sorry, the CRA, they wanted to go back to the NAC so that the NAC could comment as well as, uh, the public was very concerned that, um, if we were going to hand properties over, that there wouldn't be land banking, that there would be some performance measure, uh, performance requirements in a, uh, rental or excuse me, a lease transfer agreement. So with that, I would like, Donna, if you could help me and go back to the board item, I'd like to walk you through. Thank you, Donna. So the first, again, the first process parcel is 5703 Southeast 47th Avenue, Stewart, Port Salerno, New Monrovia. It is a 0.218 part, uh, parcel. It is the one that staff is suggesting goes through the first RFP process for affordable housing. We're requesting RFP process because we have multiple interested, not for part, not for profit housing partners that are interested in possibly building a single family home on this lot. Um, the next one is, uh, we were going to delete, uh, this was the 10 county owned planted lots across from Lamar Howard Park. This is because they have now been incorporated into Camino Trails design. And those numbers, by the way, have come in and it looks like they're going to be good, but I don't want to spoil the surprise there. Uh, the third one is Gerald Dean Street and 5358 Southeast Railway Avenue. I showed you those earlier. And then the fourth one, which was not in the slide presentation is Hawthorne Street, which is, I would say, what about block south of the other one that we showed you in Golden Gate. It's pretty much parallel to, uh, parallel to the Camino Trail. Uh, this was, uh, originally thought of by the NAC and the CRA for multifamily housing. However, we, uh, we would like, we're going to be asking that the BCC authorized the lot split for lots five and six, the creation of a drainage easement along the southern seven and a half feet of lot five and northern seven half feet of lot six, uh, presentation to the NAC and impossible multifamily use and get their opinion come back to you. Needless to say, to keep it brief and try and keep it consolidated. Um, I do need to make some corrections to the recommended action. So I'd like to walk through with you, but we would like to ask the board to authorize staff to present parcel four to the Golden Gate Neighborhood Advisory Committee and CRA agency board for their direction and concurrence as to the type of housing. We would also like to ask the board to authorize staff to craft an RFP for parcels one and four being the process to transfer or donate to a not-for-profit housing organization, community land trust, or developer with reverter clause. Uh, the third is to authorize staff to start a lot split with drainage easements, as we've explained before, uh, and sidewalk easements between lots five and six, one and four with, and to initiate a zoning change process. And number four is to move that the, uh, we ask the board to adopt a revised resolution authorizing staff to place parcels one and four as listed able and designate properties for affordable housing to be recorded and placed on the county website. And that would be in, in concurrence with the live local act, by the way. And then number five, we're asking the board to authorize the chairman to execute any and all documents necessary to complete transaction. With that all being said, um, 40, uh, 40, 47th Avenue is probably the first one that'll be out the gate. The rest of them require some rezoning and some work to be done before we can move forward with the process. It will be a long process. It's not something that's going to happen over 30 days and we will be back before this body with the RFP. And then the, the actual proposals we received from the RFP, if I'm not mistaken. And I also want to just take this time to thank public works as well as legal lot. There's even though I get the pleasure of presenting you this very interesting item, there are probably 50 people behind me that are putting this all together. So, and I now have memorized Ms. Segura's extension just from this board item alone. So, and she's done, she's tired of talking to me every morning. So with that, we're more happy to answer any questions. I know it's a bit confusing or address any comments or concerns. Commissioner Hurt? Yeah, the Hawthorne Street project is, you're suggesting that there's a unity of title created on 10 platted lots. It's 0.6 meters. So that means that the lots are not buildable lots, right? And is there any indication of what the adjacent uses are? So the adjacent uses are residential and then it would be institutional because you're going to have the trail, the parks trail that I believe goes in front of it. If not currently under the Camino project, but at some future phase. I could look on the map. I'm not, do you know the exact, the. Is it multifamily? Is it single family? Is it? It's, if it, at least amount of impact, it's single family. If adjacent would be at worst, probably the duplexes or the quads that we typically see in the Golden Gate neighborhood. What I can tell you is that the NAC and the CRA, when we put this, when we had discussions about putting this out for RFP, the two biggest issues were, number one, there was no water or sewer to the lot. That has now been changed. You now have sewer there. And then secondly, the NAC at that time wanted to have multifamily, but as staff recognizing, it's been a number of years since we've gone back and kind of asked that question. Maybe the public opinion has changed or maybe the need has changed. So we would like to go back to the NAC and get what do they suggest for their neighborhood if the board would like us to do so. Okay. And we're more than happy, Commissioner, to come back with those results. I mean, that was kind of the plan. Commissioner Smith. No, do we have to take? Oh, do we have any public that would like to talk on this item? Seeing none, Commissioner Smith. Move approval of staff's recommendation and the bringing back of the various options after they've gone to the NAC CRA and someone. Okay. I kind of wanted to talk about our land trust a little bit, but I don't know that I've and Mike Redling's here from Habitat and he actually is sitting on our inaugural board, but this is exactly what the land trust was formed for. We are not necessarily have evolved to be in a position. We should be within the next few months of actually receiving properties, but I wanted to take this opportunity because there's been some confusion and Mike and I have had this conversation a couple of times, but I just had a recent that somehow the land trust is in competition with Habitat. That could not be further from the truth. The whole concept of the land trust is to actually complement Habitat's efforts and Habitat complement ours. There's appropriate properties that Habitat's model and what they're good at is obviously, and I can't tell out of everything you just said, what is appropriate for them and what's appropriate for somebody else. But that is something that we designed the land trust to actually work hand in hand with Habitat and any other not-for-profit that is focused on affordable housing. So, and this is something that's passionate for me that I intend on being full up to my neck in after I depart this dais. And I am... We don't remember who you are. Yeah, probably. That's true. But this is something that people can actually build wealth. And that's really, these days, the only way a young family can build wealth is through real estate. And this gives them that opportunity. So, I just kind of wanted to... If not wealth, at least equity. At least have the... Okay. Wealth sounds like two grand. Wealth. Equity. Okay. I get it. Yeah. That's all we'll say. Some people... But thanks for clarifying that. I'm here for you. But anyway, so I just kind of wanted to do that. And we are working, the county, I hope, still, is working on the three-ish acres that are in Banner Lake with the mutton or whatever you call it, a little thing for... And that is something that we're envisioning as being a potential 14-unit multifamily affordable housing, simple free title project in the future. And anyway. So, Mr. Chair, thank you. And I apologize. We kind of did this item as more specific to the... But we will be coming back to you as staff at a later date with another affordable housing update. You know, as the session closed up in Tallahassee, we have some changes and stuff that we'll be discussing with you both individually and as a group. And then I will say this project has really pushed us as staff. We've gotten really into the community. We're creating, we'll say, collaborating with the law and not-for-profits. It's a big problem. There's plenty of opportunity for a lot more players to come and help try and solve this issue. Cool. Commissioner Smith. Yeah. Commissioner Jenkins, maybe you can help, because I think I understand, but I've not clearly been intimately involved like you have. In the land trust world of affordable housing, does the land trust always keep the land in the trust? Yes. And I think that's an important note, because the concern on a lot of these projects is that somewhere out in the future, 20 years, 25 years from some point, that somehow a project reverts out of the affordable capacity into something else. And I think the brilliance behind what you've done and what you're going to do and what the land trust can do is it keeps that property, that piece in the affordable category well, well, well into the future. And so I think when people hear about this or think about this, that that always is, for me, the most important part. I remember years ago, when George and I talked about this years ago up in, I think it was either Winter Garden or Winter Park. Winter Park. There was a really amazing project that they put a land trust together up there for and went into some older neighborhoods and really put together some amazing architecture, amazing homes, that the goal of all that was not only to have it stayed in that way well into the future, but was to blend in the architecture of the neighborhood with the old neighborhood they were going into. And it was a fantastic thing. So look forward to your success. And I just think that's, for me, that's the most important piece of all of this from that perspective, from the land trust, is that it protects that land into the future. There's a whole contract roll. We went through, paid a lot of legal fees to get those documents exactly right for what we are trying to accomplish. So it's very well spelled out of exactly what everybody's agreeing to and understanding. But anyway, with that, we had a motion by Doug and seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Public hearing number two, public hearing to consider adoption of an ordinance amending section 71.73.A, general ordinances, Martin County code to amend the legal description of the boundaries of districts one, two, and three municipal servicing taxing units. Samantha Lovelady. Good morning, Commissioners, Mr. Chair. Samantha Lovelady for the record. I'm with Growth Management. And this is a revision to the MSTU districts one, two, three, and four. As you know, after each decennial census, we do commission district redistricting to equalize the population throughout the districts. After that is completed, we do the MSTU districts to match the commission districts. When we did that back in 2022, the legal descriptions for the municipalities were included into the each, into the three MSTU districts. And this is a, um, an ordinance to just remove the municipalities from the chapter section 71.73.A for the MSTU districts. Um, and it's just, um, lesses and accepts out the municipal boundaries of your MSTU districts. And with that, staff would recommend a motion. Move that the board adopt the ordinance amending section 71.73.A, general ordinances, Martin County Code, which sets forth revised commission MSTU boundaries, removing the incorporated municipalities. After public comments, so moved. Second. Do we have any public comment? Seeing none, the motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Have a nice day. Thank you. Public hearing quasi-judicial number two, public hearing to consider a request for a rezoning and approval of the second amendment to the South Florida Gateway Planned Unit Development PUD zoning agreement amendment to add approximately 32.26 acres of undeveloped land. Mr. Brian Ealing. Morning, Chairman. Commissioner Elise Elder, Deputy County Attorney. This is a quasi-judicial proceeding. Okay. Do we have any, um, quasi? Commissioner Smith. Uh, if I do, they're filed. If any, they've been filed. If any, they've been filed. If I have any, they've been filed. If I have any, they've been filed. Okay. Do we have the appropriate amount of paperwork transferred to the, with your resume and such? Copy of my resume and the agenda item. Do we have any interveners? No interveners. No interveners. Would everybody stand and be sworn in? That is going to testify. Raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Notices. Okay. Notices. Just mention the notices. Uh, notices were turned in at the LPA. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. All right. Morning, Chairman, Commissioners. Uh, for the record, Brian Nealon, Principal Planner with the Growth Management Department. Um, this is a request by South Florida Gateway Industrial LLC for the approval of the Second Amendment to the South Florida Gateway PUD, including a revised master site plan. Included with this application is an affidavit deferring public facilities reservation. This application proposes rezoning approximately 32 and a quarter acres from the existing A2 Agricultural District zoning to PUD by way of resolution and to incorporate the 32 and a quarter acres into the existing 184-acre, uh, existing PUD, South Florida Gateway PUD, by way of the proposed Second Amendment. No development is associated with this application. The subject site is located west of Southwest Canter Highway, approximately six-tenths of a mile south of the Southwest Canter Highway and Southwest 96th Street intersection. These pictures show the present state of the land. The subject site proposed to be added to the South Florida Gateway PUD, consisting of approximately 32 and a quarter acres as part of the freestanding urban services district and has an industrial future land use. Presently, its zoning is A2 Agricultural District, which is inconsistent with the industrial future land use. Last December, several comp plan amendments effectively completed a land swap between the two 32 and a quarter acre parcels on the north and west sides. This parcel here, this parcel here. The parcel abutting the PUD to the west was removed from the freestanding urban services district and its future land use was changed to industrial and it was rezoned to agricultural AG-20A. The parcel abutting the PUD to the north, which is part of which is the subject of this application, had its future land use changed to industrial and was added to the freestanding urban services district. The result of the comp plan amendments was a no-net change in the approved freestanding urban services district area and a no-net change in the urban and agricultural acreage. The application was heard before the local planning agency on June 6th and it was recommended. The LPA's recommendation was four to zero, I believe, all in favor of staff's recommendation. Development review staff have reviewed the application for South Florida Gateway Industrial LLC and we find that it complies with the comprehensive growth management plan as detailed in the staff report. Staff recommends approval of this application. We move the board receive and file the agenda item and its attachments including the staff report as exhibit one and move the board adopt the resolution approving the rezoning from A2 agricultural district to planned unit development and approve the second amendment of the South Florida Gateway PUD zoning agreement including the revised master site plan. That ends the presentation. I'll take any questions. Any questions for staff? Seeing none, Mr. Crady. Good morning. For the record, my name is Morris Crady here on behalf of the applicant and we did provide the proof of notice to surrounding property owners at the LPA meeting. I do have a brief presentation just to give you an update on some of the site work that's been going on out there. Thank you. And I do agree with everything that Brian said and support the staff recommendations and conditions of approval. But this has been a several steps in this process. The first step was the land swap and that's why I have the arrow before you. This is the agricultural land that used to be industrial. This is the industrial land that's now within the freestanding urban service district. And as was mentioned, this is no longer in the freestanding urban service district. And it was done primarily because of the existing infrastructure on the site, particularly southwest gateway place, which is an existing road. But this is the existing approved land use map that shows the industrial. So here today we're adding it to the PUD. We'll be back before you again to do a plat of this parcel so that it can be conveyed. And then the ultimate use will be a final site plan on the property in the future. But this is the existing site as depicted on an aerial from last year. Southwest gateway place has now been completely constructed with an existing signal. We've completed several of the buildings out there. That's one of the reasons why we need this additional vacant land because there is a demand for more buildings. And we've completed most of the infrastructure on the site. This is a landscape buffer that we committed to as part of the PUD agreement. It consists all of native vegetation. It's intended to screen the buildings by approximately 75 percent. And the buildings nonetheless still meet the county's architectural requirements. But we committed to doing a 30-foot buffer there just to maintain a nice scenic drive along Canter Highway. So this is Southwest gateway place. Looking west where the future building was going, this is a completed distribution center. So this, the new building will be on the opposite side of the street. You can see we've constructed not only the road improvements, also water and sewer lines will go right directly to the site. And Southwest gateway place, by the way, is a road that was constructed by the developer. It's maintained by the industrial park. It's not a county road. It's not a county road. But it has been completed to county standards, as well as all of the landscaping and infrastructure. This is the end of the road. If you look on the aerial, that particular location is right about here. This is the building that you just saw completed. It will have direct access to utilities and access to Southwest gateway place signal at Canter Highway, which was a much better use of the industrial property than in its previous location because it was not geometrically usable because of its configuration and based on the way the rest of the property was developed. But there's a building here now. There's a building behind that building on the frontage. This is the large building. And then Karis Cold is completing two two buildings in this location that should be completed by the end of this year. So there's a lot of activity going on. The county purchased 30 acres right in this location, which is in industrial land. And they'll be working on Southwest waterside place, which is a public road to the county's parcel. So that's the only public road. The rest of the roads are private roads that will be maintained by the industrial park. And this is just a finished look of what's behind the distribution center. This is not your grandfather's industrial park. The developer had to meet the county's strict standards of water quality treatment. So before any of this water comes off the pavement, it has to go into these water quality treatment swales that then gets discharged into the lake system. And there's several lakes on the property that all act towards water quality treatment that have now been planted. There's thousands of native trees, oaks and pine trees and shrubs that have now been installed in littoral zones to improve water quality. And this is the current approved master plan. And what happens, this is the lake that you saw being constructed. And prior to discharge, the runoff from the pavement goes through a series of treatment ponds, eventually ending in this pond here, and then going through a drainage swell that eventually discharges in the St. Lucie County, or the St. Lucie Canal. So this is one of the few projects that have been built to meet the county's strict water quality standards as far as industrial parks are concerned. And this is the revised master plan. All we're doing is adding this parcel to the existing PUD. The uses are all specifically described in the PUD, and they're all geared towards targeted business and industries and a lot of employment opportunity as a result. So with that understanding, we're asking you to to support staff recommendation or approval. As mentioned, we had a unanimous support from the local planning agency and have had no public opposition to this project whatsoever since day one. Any questions for the applicant? Commissioner Hurd. Yeah, Martin County's property is not within the freestanding urban service boundary? No, it is. It's not in the PUD, but it is in the freestanding urban service district and its own general industrial. I was looking at the red outline. That was just that that was just the outline of the PUD. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Okay. With that, do we have any public comment? Seeing none, Commissioner Campy. Thanks to staff for putting that together. Mr. Crady, thank you for that update. I think a lot of folks that don't necessarily go driving past this are not familiar with this project. I'll make a motion to accept staff's recommendation based on the fact that as a county and as a tax base, we are sort of disjointed in terms of having a lot of the burden on residential and not enough on industrial. So I know the folks that have been working hard on this to sort of even up that balance. These projects bring in tax base without putting a burden on schools and beaches and libraries. So... The Business Development Board helps that. Yes. And we just heard the Business Development Board helped with this, which is excellent. And so these are the kind of projects that I think will help balance us out and even us out in taking some of the burden of level of services that our residents require from them to industrial properties. Thank you. I'll second it. Okay. Any other comments? No public comment. So we have a motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Opposed? Motion carries four to one. Commissioner Hurd dissenting. Moving on to department quasi-digital number three, request for approval of the revised master site plan for the Newfield Crossroads Neighborhood P172-018. Mr. Walden. Uh-oh. Yeah, they're here. Okay. We're okay? I expect to be next. We're good. Well, you are next on the agenda. That's how it works. Oh, sorry. Who's counting? That's okay. We got it. Unless you don't want to be next, we can do something different. It's all good. Get down to... You got it? Okay. Take a moment to just... There we go. Thank you. Commissioner, this is a quasi-judicial... Nope. Yes, it is. Again. Okay. We have any... We do, and they've been filed. And they've been filed. I do, and they've been filed. I do, and they've been filed. Yes, I have them, and they have been filed. I don't, and they've been filed. Okay. Has the appropriate amount of paperwork, including your resume, been turned in? It is now. With any interveners? No interveners. No interveners, and no notices required. Okay. Good. So everybody stand that would like to be sworn in, please. Raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? You have the floor. Thank you, sir. Good morning, members of the commission. Peter Walden, Deputy Growth Management Director. This is a request for Newfield for a revised master site plan for the Crossroads neighborhood, and it is requested by Mattamy Palm Beach LLC, represented by James Fitzgerald. This is a location map. It shows the Crossroads neighborhood. It is in basically the middle of the new field development. You see the C-23 canal to the north, which provides the boundary between St. Lucie County and Martin. Martin Downs to the east of the Florida Turnpike. The landfill in Seven Jays are to the west of the project, and Palm City Farms and Canopy Creek are to the south. This is an aerial of the section that we're dealing with today for the master plan for Crossroads. You can see most of it is existing agricultural uses, and this is the revised master plan that shows the development committed to the Crossroads neighborhood. The plan shows the street network, the block structure, and the transect zones. By identifying the transect zones, you can extrapolate the unique characteristics of each area, such as density, build-to frontage, parking, parking, placement, permitted uses, and building types. So you can get a good picture of what the development could look like once you dive into the code. The master plan provides the parameters of development available. It does not provide the exact building types, building placement of the site plans. So this is a side-by-side comparison. This is the approved master site plan that was approved four years ago now, and this is the revised master site plan before you today. I'll point out a couple of the minor changes. There's some block structure up in this corner here that has been changed. The alleys, the street network has made minor modifications, and there's a little bit different allocations of some of the transects. But they're very minor. The development criteria, the amount of homes, the amount of square footage, everything is the same. So some of the things that are going on currently in Newfield are we have the master plan for this being revised. We also are looking at a master plan for the workplace district. There's several infrastructure plans already under review where we're looking at vertical site plans. So all of these things are coming together, and that's why we're trying to get some consistency with the master. There's trailheads under review and approved. As you know, we came in recently with the parks master and conservation easements, and we will be looking at a few code revisions for procedures and some of the things we've identified as we're getting into the development. We've noticed a few things that need updated. So development review staff have found the application to be in compliance with all applicable land development regulations and the comprehensive growth management plan and recommends approval. And we'll move that the board receive and file the agenda item and its attachments, including the staff report as exhibit one, and move that the board approve the revised master site plan for the Newfield Crossroads neighborhood. I'd be glad to answer any questions you might have. Any questions for staff? Seeing none. Would you like to hear from the applicant? The applicant would be great. There he is. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, commissioners. Thank you for your time and your leadership. Appreciate the opportunity to kind of present this item. First, I wanted to thank staff for having a great working relationship with us, for your professionalism and your attention to detail, and swift action in putting this item before you today. Do you mind stating your name for the record? Sorry, I got ahead of myself. My name is James Fitzgerald. I work with Mattamy Homes. I'm representing the applicant and owner over at Newfield. So after consultation with Marcella Camblor and Dover Cole, who's been working on the project since its inception and helped Knight Kiplinger, you know, deliver and actualize kind of the vision on the paper, we decided that we wanted to bring forth a small improvement in our mind to the plan. And so what this does is it increases connectivity and walkability. We are essentially moving and combining just uh, two blocks and we're creating a green belt, uh, that provides some really good axial relationships between a future 50 acre, uh, natural public park and the downtown. Uh, we believe that, you know, this is really an improvement and, you know, a new field in our mind is really about the integration of the built environment with, with nature. You know, we're very proud of the fact that we've had uh, 70 percent preservation of open space and now we have those deed restricting easements to ensure that, you know, this area has development rights severed. Uh, it's going to be used for public benefit and preservation and we open to the public and funded by private dollars. So we're, we're, uh, really excited about that. And, um, you know, we think that this is an improvement to the plan again and we, you know, hope for your consideration of it. Thank you, sir. Any questions? Uh, Commissioner Hetherington. I don't have any questions, but I, I think that it is an improvement based on what I've seen and been described and pending any public comment, I would gladly support and motion for, uh, staff's recommendation of approval. Second. Commissioner Hurd. Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong. So this is 139 acres, which is going to support, uh, 1,251 units, residential units and 211,000 square feet of commercial. Uh, that was the maximum that was in the approved master plan from 2020. We didn't make any changes to the density that was approved then. Those are still the, the numbers that we're working with. Yeah, that's the maximum. And then the small minor deviations that we did make, uh, actually added civic open space and reduced, uh, some of the building coverage from what was approved in 2020. Thank you. Commissioner Smith. James, thank you. Um, thanks for the presentation. I, I, and I appreciate your your comments this morning. I think something that we should never lose sight on with this project, um, from the inception of the project to today, um, detail and, and what was on paper mattered. Um, Knight Kiplinger spent an inordinate amount of time personally, um, committing to our community, committing to us as the County Commission, uh, the amount and level of detail, um, that this project would produce over decades, um, because it'll take that long. Um, one thing that can't get lost in this process and one of the reasons why we put it into its own comprehensive plan amendment and all of the detail is excruciating lady laid out so that that vision didn't die somewhere along the line. And, and whether it's mad at me or someone else subsequently, um, doesn't come in and nip away at the detail, um, that everybody works so hard on to get to. And so I appreciate, um, the willingness and the one to, to commit to that. Um, you have an amazing opportunity to create something, um, equally especially if not more so than what Knight envisioned. Um, and sticking to that, um, that vision and that idea of what this place could be, uh, is the single most important. The detail, um, more so than any other development I think that's ever happened in Martin County, uh, is the most important. And, and when I mean detail, I mean down to where things come like moving this building from the lot that you're proposing it to the other and how that interfaces with the natural land. Um, the detail of what that looks like and how that acts for that community to be for the next 50, 100 years, um, should be the same kind of reaction that people have when they go to the downtown portion of downtown Stewart. Um, it is a special place. People love downtown Stewart. And the reason they love it is because a hundred years ago people put a lot of thought and energy into where things went, how they went. And I think the city has done a great job of protecting that core and those important elements of what make it so special. And so, um, just please be mindful, um, as, as the project out there evolves, um, that before it gets too far out of the box, come check with us, talk to us, um, and let us know what's happening, why it's happening so that we don't lose that vision. Whether you're there, whether we're here, the idea of how this thing was laid out is that that vision will move on through time, uh, and won't lose focus. And, and it so easily can if it's allowed to. So thanks again for your, your thoughts, your comments, and we look forward to the next generation. Thank you. Commissioner Campy. You're right. It is weird to go third, um, some of the comments. So I'll just, uh, elaborate on some of what my colleagues had already said. I had the opportunity recently to sit down with Mr. Fitzpatrick and, um, and go through some of the pictures and the plans. You know, most of us, if not all of us, were here when Knight originally came forward to discuss what I call night vision, his night vision. And then I know that he carefully worked for a long time with Marcella and the team to find the perfect partner, because I had always said to him, it's one thing to have the vision, but when the, when the partner shows up with all the money and has to physically do it, sometime the vision can get lost. And I think he did a very remarkable job of finding Mattamy, um, who has proven itself elsewhere in the region. But I know that the level of detail and quality and thoughtfulness for this particular project, especially since it's in Martin County, was even operating at a higher level for you all. And I know you came in to be part of it. Uh, I think the most exciting thing is, is that as you start to really move these things from designs to reality, I think our residents will be thrilled. And I had mentioned to you the other day, the only time I ever hear real criticism is that it's taking too long and they want to already start to, you know, people that are thinking about where will I live and, you know, younger people, especially the beautiful part of young people that either want to return here where they grew up or stay here will have the opportunity to do it with you all. So they're just waiting. Um, I appreciate staffs also having to go through a level of review and detail that is different than what we have to have done in the past. As Commissioner Smith said, this whole project is operating at a very specific level. And some of it is new to how we would incorporate the relationship between our staff and you all as the applicant. I know with Mr. Donaldson's leadership, we can continue to streamline that. Uh, I appreciate that you came today. Uh, appreciate that, uh, the way Mr. Walden laid out exactly why we're here and what we're doing. Uh, in the, in the 50,000 foot view, you said, well, it's no big deal. These are, these are minor changes, but they still have to be very carefully reviewed. Uh, and they were, I would hope in the future that some of these kinds of details, although I'm happy to have you come and give us a little, you know, uh, update that they don't always have to come for an update unless you're specifically coming to say, Hey, we got some great news. I would love the public to have an opportunity in this venue for you to show some of the, some of the visions that you guys have, especially for, you know, you said it in passing, you said public park. This is genuinely a public park. It'll be, I mean, we just celebrated in Palm city, a very small project that our staff worked hard on and you are working on multiple sites like that. And the, the big site, the 50 acre site will be remarkable. And, you know, and it's not just going to be for the residents of new field, obviously primarily it will be for them, but it'll be an opportunity for people all over Martin County to come and enjoy retail and, and farming and nature trails. You've already done it. Um, the, the green market was available and open to everybody. And every time my wife and I had happened to stop by to do it, it was packed and people pushing baby strollers. And it was exactly what I think madame's vision is. And I think it is, I mean, night, I can't imagine how he and Ann could be more pleased with how this is going. So, uh, thank you. Thank you. Mr. Smith. And just one last little piece. Um, it is so important that what Ed just said, what others have said, um, you know, night, night has been part of this community for generations. Um, and for me personally, to make sure that his night vision, Ed, thank you for that. That was great. Um, carries on is super important, um, to the level of which, um, you know, I, I feel a significant obligation to night to make sure that what he envisioned happens. And so keeping Marcella involved, I, I, I hope that that helps. Um, you've got a great team of people. You've got some of the most amazing talent working with you, um, that exist. Um, let's hopefully we keep it all together and keep it moving forward. Absolutely. Thank you. Okay. Do we have any public comment? Seeing none, we have a motion by Commissioner Hetherington. Seconded by me. Seconded by you. Okay. Because it's been a while. Yeah. I'm seconded by Commissioner Campy. Uh, all in favor. Aye. All opposed. Opposed. Motion carries four to one with Commissioner Hurd dissenting. Thank you. Uh, Mr. Elam, I suspect that your next item can't be done in six minutes or can it? Okay. I can name that tune in four notes. Department quasi-judicial number one request of an approval of three lakes golf club plan unit development, PUD phase two final site plan. B one one five dash zero zero four. Two minutes per lake. And with that, um, do we have any, um, what'd you call them? Um, um, ex parte, ex parte, geez, any expert. And they are filed. If any, it might've been filed. If any, it might've been filed. I don't believe I have any, but if they have, they've been filed. I don't have any, and they've been filed. Okay. Would you turn in all the paperwork, including your, um, resume? And, uh, all notices are turned in? No notices. Any interveners? There's no interveners allowed. Okay. Would we like to be sworn in now? Raise your right hands. Do you swear or affirm the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you, Chairman. Good morning, Commissioners. Uh, for the record, Brian Elam, principal planner with the growth management department. I've turned in a copy of the agenda item in my work history. This is a request by Lucido and Associates on behalf of Three Lakes Golf Club LLC for approval of the Three Lakes Golf Club PUD phase two final site plan. The proposed phase two development is on approximately 282.14 acres of the 1,217 acre property. The phase two development includes the 18 hole golf course, also known as the North course performance center, eight golf cottages, east golf maintenance building, golf trading center, and associated infrastructure. Included with this application is a request for a certificate of public facilities reservation. Property is located at 10 980 Southwest Apogee Drive, generally west and east of Canter Highway, north of Southwest Bridge Road, approximately 1.3 miles southwest of Southwest 96th Street and Stewart. Earlier this year in February, the future land use for the Three Lakes Golf Club was changed to rural lifestyle with the adoption of the comprehensive growth management plan, CPA 2211, and the zoning district classification was changed to PUD pursuant to the Three Lakes Golf Club plan unit development zoning agreement. At the same time, the previously approved revised final site plan for the Three Lakes Golf Club was incorporated into the Three Lakes Golf Club PUD as phase one final site plan. Phase two final site plan, as previously stated, this application is for the approval of the phase two final site plan for the Three Lakes Golf Club PUD, consisting of 118-hole golf course, eight golf cottages, the Performance Center, East Golf Maintenance Building, and the Golf Training Center. Pursuant to the PUD agreement, connection of water and wastewater services for all buildings in the phase one, except the West Maintenance Facility and golf shelter are also part of this phase two development. Here's a look at the first page of the site plan. The highlighted areas show the locations of the phase two development. View of this application was not required by the local planning agency. Development review staff has found the application to comply with all applicable regulations in the Comprehensive Growth Management Plan as detailed in the attached staff report. Staff recommends approval of the Three Lakes Golf Club PUD phase two final site plan. We move the board receive and file the agenda item and its attachments, including the staff report as exhibit one. We move the board receive and file. Oh, also needed to turn in as exhibit two the applicant's work history. I apologize. Don't let it happen again. Sorry. Let me rewind time. Move the board receive and file the applicant's work history as exhibit two, and move the board approve the Three Lakes Golf Club PUD phase two final site plan. And that concludes the presentation. Okay. Any questions for staff? Seeing none, Mr. Raines. Good morning again, Commissioner for the Record. Bob Raines, Land Use Attorney with the Gunster Law Firm here on behalf of the applicant. I appreciate you moving this forward before lunch. With that in mind, this is a straightforward approval for final, as Mr. Elam well pointed out, phase two final site plan. It's consistent with the land use, the zoning, the PUD agreement, the master site plan, and therefore pretty straightforward. We have Mr. Crady here if you have any questions. But other than that, I'll reserve the right if I need to come back up. But we would just ask for you to make the accept staff's recommendation as laid out by Mr. Elam. Thank you. Commissioner Campy after public comment. Do we have any public comment on this item? Seeing none, Mr. Campy. Thank you. I've been an early adopter of this project. I think it's a great project for Martin County. I know that some people disagree with that, but I think a majority of our public will benefit in one way or another, if not directly, indirectly. It's 1,217 acres. It'll be used primarily as a golf course and the golf-related activities that go along with that. But it is a first-rate project. I've had the opportunity to tour it, not play golf, but to tour it. They've protected as many natural trees as they could in their original locations, the ones that they couldn't leave in their original locations. Many of them were relocated and saved. It's going to draw water from the canal that won't find its way into our estuaries or at a tremendous volume that will be used to irrigate the course. They will be a large employer. They will be a large donator to local charities. I'm very pleased with this project. Proud to make the motion to accept this next phase. It is an amazing project. Commissioner Smith. Okay. With that, so I asked for public already. You did. So we have a motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Smith. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Opposed. Motion carries four to one. Commissioner Hurd dissenting, and we're two minutes late for lunch, so we're going to break for lunch. Good job, by the way. How are we coming back? Uh, 1.30. All right. Welcome back. Um, our next item is, uh, department quasi-judicial number two, request plat approval for Cove Royale planned unit development PUD phase one project C165-008. Mr. Bryan again. Boy, you're the star of the show today. 306. Was I judicial chair? Sorry. Okay. By about November, he'll have it down. Yep. All right. So do we have any, um... If I do, they're filed. I don't, and they've been filed. I don't think I do. If I do, they've been filed. I don't have any. I don't have any, and they've been filed. Okay. Any, um... No interveners on this. Interveners. Okay. And has all the appropriate paperwork been turned in and notices? I have a copy. Go ahead. Of the agenda item in my work history. And there's no notices required for this. Okay. Great. So would everybody stand to be sworn in? That's... please. Do you swear or affirm that the evidence you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? And with that... Take it away. Thank you, Chairman. Uh, good afternoon, Commissioners. For the record, Brian Inland, Principal Planner with the Growth Management Department. This is a request by Kotler and Hearing on behalf of KH Cove Royale LLC for approval of the Cove Royale Plan Unit Development Phase 1 Plat. As a result of the review of this plat application, minor technical adjustments were required to the previously approved Phase 1 Revised Final Site Plan to ensure consistency with the plat in accordance with Section 10.5 F6E2. Land development regulations of Art and County Code. A resolution to approve the revisions to the Cove Royale PUD Phase 1 Site Plan are part of this agenda item. The plat is to be consistent with the Cove Royale PUD Revised Phase 1 Final Site Plan consisting of 83 single-family lots and associated infrastructure on approximately 70 and a quarter portion of the 97-acre site. The site is generally located on the south side of Southeast Cove Road, east of Southeast Grace Lane, approximately .14 miles west of Southeast Alt Avenue in Stewart. Included with this application is a request for a certificate of public facilities exemption. This is the title page of the plat. It consists of eight sheets. A review of this application is not required by the local planning agency. Development review staff have found the application to comply with the comprehensive growth management plan as detailed in the attached staff report and staff recommends approval of the Cove Royale PUD Phase 1 Plat application. We move the board receive and file the agenda item and its attachments including the staff report is Exhibit 1. We move the board approve the Cove Royale PUD Phase 1 Plat, the Phase 1 revised final site plan, and the contract for construction of required improvements and infrastructure. And that concludes the presentation. Any questions for staff? Nope. Seeing none. Applicant, please state your name for the record. George Missimer with Kotler and Hearing here today on behalf of Coulter for the record and I have been sworn in. I don't have anything else to add to Brian's presentation. This is the Phase 1 Plat consistent with the approved final site plan for Phase 1. There's roughly 83 homes and roughly 70 acres for Phase 1. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Any questions for the applicant? Seeing none. Do we have any public comment? Seeing none. Commissioner Smith. We could have had that before lunch. Okay, we could have had that before lunch. Anyway, motion by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries unanimously. As it turns out, we could have easily scored. You're going home with a 5-0, so good for you to tell them back at the office. Okay, next up, transportation disadvantage program and funding update. Chris Stevenson. Hi. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Karen Deagle. This is Chris Stevenson. I'm the CEO of Senior Resource Association, and thank you for having us today to present to you about the Transportation Disadvantage Program in Martin County, or what we call the Community Coach. So I just wanted to start. Do you want to move the... Yeah? Thank you, Chris. So just to kind of review a little bit, what is the Transportation Disadvantage Plan or Rider in Martin County? This program is for the TD eligible who are the elderly over 65 with no other means of transportation, or disabled with no other means of transportation, or at or below 100% of the poverty level with no other means of transportation. So this, again, is our most vulnerable demographic individuals in Martin County. This is not the MARTI, and I just want to clarify that because I know sometimes there's a confusion between the MARTI, which is your fixed route system, and the Community Coach, which is your transportation disadvantage paratransit door-to-door system, and two totally separate funding sources, of course. So, and speaking of the funding sources, this last year for the 2023-24 funding, we received Trip and Equipment Grant from FDOT through the Commission for Transportation Disadvantage, and our funding this past year for Martin County was $300,000 from the state. We also received an Innovative Service Development Grant that is a competitive grant through the CTD, and that was for $750,000. And then local funding, the City of Stewart provided $12,500, Indian Town an additional $12,500, and thank you to you, the Board of County Commission, you did provide at $166,000. So the total amount that we were able to spend this year on trips for the transportation disadvantage was $1.2 million. On what that provided, so this past year we are on track to provide what we had thought we would do at the $28,000 level for those dollars. We are at this end of May was $27,550. But I wanted to point out over the years how it has, because of the funding level, how it has improved, how many more trips. And so we have really shown that the demand is there, the need is there, and with the funding that we receive, every penny is used for those vulnerable individuals in the community. So our ridership growth, that has also been something that we have, we're not surprised at and we're very pleased about. So right now we have unduplicated passengers of 838 persons. When Senior Resource Association took over in 2018-19, there were 125 passengers. Through the marketing that we have accomplished, the awareness that we've raised, and the additional funding that we have been able to acquire, we have been able to increase the number of unduplicated passengers currently to 838. What that means as a growth, so persons have to apply to ride this transportation system. They have to be deemed eligible, as I said at the very beginning, who is eligible. And what we're finding now is that we are having at least 55 new individuals contacting us each month asking for this type of service. They do go through an eligibility process. There is even for, in some cases, we do have to get notifications from physicians and to make sure that who they say they are, they really are. We want to make sure that we are providing the trips to the most vulnerable individuals in the community and that they are eligible for this program. So our rider destinations. Obviously medical trips are the first and foremost that we provide, and 60% of the trips provided are medical. 30% are the work and 10% other. Of that 60% of medical appointments, 41% are for dialysis. That is a large part of the program. And as you know, if someone is on dialysis, they're usually needing trips three times a week, three round trips a week, which would equate to six total trips because one way trip is considered one trip. It's not around, but it's one. Okay. And then of course, the other 59% are other appointments, medical appointments. So what's happening now? So the 2024-25 funding, they're starting to come in and the trip and equipment grant did increase. And, um, if you remember when we spoke other times, um, we mentioned that the formula for the trip and equipment grant through the state, um, a lot of it has to do with, um, the number of trips you provide. So the more trips you provide, the heavier weight on the formula, and so you get an increase. So because of the number of trips that we have provided has increased, it has this year gone from 300,000 to 311,000 this year. So that's a good thing. The ISD grant, not so much. So, um, the ISD grant, Innovative Service Development Grant, again, um, it is a grant that we apply for, competitive grant. Um, we, uh, uh, we were awarded, this is, uh, had been our fourth year this last year. And, um, there's a limitation to an Innovative Service Development Grant. As you're all quite well aware, when you have development service grants, there's a limitation of time. The expectation of a development grant is, see if the need is there, and then if it is there, then figure out how you're going to sustain it, um, because those grants will go away. What happened this past year is we knew that our four year was up for what we had applied for previously, which was dialysis. We changed it up knowing that we didn't want not to apply for anything. So we did change it up. And Chris is going to speak a little bit about what we changed it to. Um, from that there was a limitation of how much funding at the state level they had, it dropped from 4 million down to 3 million. So the distribution was shorter. And, um, there was 10 competitive, uh, grants written. Um, we were one of them and we were able to get 50%, um, this year, not full funding, but at least we came out ahead with 50% because I'll tell you at one point, we actually, we weren't even in one of the options at all. So we're very thankful that the, um, the committee for the uh, for transportation development or the committee for the ISD grant recognized, um, the hard work that we've all put into, uh, the transportation here in Martin County, the fact that you, the commissioners saw the need and increased your, um, your dollar amount, your local match dollars that you gave us. And so, um, they did come back and say, hey, we need to give Martin County some dollars here and put us back into the, into the race and, uh, receive the 50%. The, um, the other two that are on question, of course, with yourselves is with the new year coming up is your local match. And then of course, the additional local match from Stewart in Indian river County, all said and done, if we were to be funded, um, at the same level through yourself and through the other two local match, yes, Indian town, Indian town, what match, uh, 12th. Oh, geez. We'd love to thank you. Oh, that's the Indian town. I apologize. And thank you for correcting me on that one. That's a, that's a innate thing. I guess I'm doing appreciate it. Years of connection. I know all said and done and no Indian river is not going to give any match dollars here. Pardon me. Yeah, she won't. No, I know. Not for here. Um, we will be providing, um, it'll be dropping. It'll be dropping to roughly around 19, just over 19,000 trips from the 28,000. Um, so in other words, we'll be decreasing our funding from, um, to about $400,000 and, uh, decreasing trips around roughly just over 9,000. So I'll let Chris talk a little bit about the, um, well, no, I'm going to go to the, I'll flip to the next one. The possible limit, the rider limitation. So what does this mean with this decrease? Um, so we are directed by the LCB. Um, they're the ones that will make the decision as to how we're going to limit because we will, if we come back, if we come in at lower funding, like, uh, like I just explained to you, we are going to have to limit the trips. This past year, we did not. If an individual needed a trip to go to shopping, to medical appointments, dialysis, we had no limitations. It was wonderful. Those 800, um, over 800 individuals were able to get tripped accordingly. This is just one example of what, you know, we're going to have to come up with a few different, um, uh, options, but just, this is maybe one example of an option, whereas we would be, um, limiting, uh, the use of the TD trips to persons on dialysis. And we have right now 79, uh, individuals who are, who, um, we are tripping for dialysis out of that, um, 800, um, over 800 passengers or 800 riders. So, um, we would limit the trips only to dialysis, and that would allow non-dialysis riders to use the trip once, one round trip per week. So they would get to choose whether it's a medical appointment or shopping or really a tough, tough decision to make. And that's just one option. Let me, let me stop you for a second. Sure. So, so I agree that we should, uh, prioritize dialysis patients, but because they're dialysis patients, they only get to go to dialysis? That is correct. That's, that's, that's wrong. That's, they need, they need to have other trips too. No groceries, no doctor. Yeah. I mean, it's, I, I, I would, would, would, uh, instead prioritize that dialysis patients go first and then everybody else gets to spread the, the rest of the trips. Well, that, and that's what this option is, but the rest of the trips only equate to one trip, round trip a week for everyone else. So basically we would have 79 riders that would be getting three round trips a week for dialysis only. And then the non-dialysis, which equates to like 759 of riders that we have now would only get one other trip. And yeah, you're right. Should dialysis take up one of those other trips or not? You know, and that takes away from the other. So there's, we're going to have to look at a number of different options and yes, through the guidance of yourself and the guidance of the LCB, we're going to, we're going to have to make that decision. It's, it's either that or, or ask you for the additional funding and, and it, that is 400,000. And, and I will probably be putting in, uh, to you for the, um, this year's, um, budget, um, that, um, that budget for us to be able to have an additional 400,000 to be able to keep this whole. Um, these are the most vulnerable riders or most vulnerable individuals in the community. And I don't know, how do you say, how do you say no when you've been tripping them? I'll be submitting that. Um, I could submit that by Thursday of this week. Yeah. I know you have your first hearing in July, so it would be, I will be handing it in this week, um, for the budget request for that amount. Commissioner Campy. Are you done with your presentation? Um, I was going to explain a little bit about what the ISD, but we don't have to. Yes, we can. That's it. The funding part is the most important part. It's not what we wrote the ISD grant for. Um, we just wanted to give you an idea of that, but it is the funding that's most important. Chris, you have a portion of your presentation. So I was just going to talk about, um, like Karen said, we've been getting this ISD grant for dialysis trips the last few years. They put a limit on how often you can apply for the same project. So we had to create a new project. Um, so we are excited about the new project that we got that 337,000. Because otherwise it would have been zero. Right. Exactly. Without that, it would have been zero. So we had to go and come up with a new project. And, uh, they are giving us 50% of what we asked for, which is that 337. And it is for, um, it is for an on-demand app, uh, where our passengers can use, use their phone to book trips. And, uh, so on demand though, it's day of, it's not having to book 72 hours in advance. You can actually do it and get trips the day of. So if you wake up in the morning, you don't feel well, normally you'd have to call us in advance. You wouldn't be able to get a trip that day with this program and what we're, we're going to be doing with this additional money that we'll be able to trip them day of. Yeah. So, uh, like Karen said, the traditional method, you have to call in advance. You have to book it. You can only call when our call center is open with the app. It'll be a lot different. So that's just what we wrote it for. We just wanted to make sure you were all aware of what that ISD grant that we received, um, was enabling our passengers to do. And we've, uh, been doing it as a pilot program, uh, for the last, uh, nine months we've had, we've had 20 different individuals already using it. And that's why we were able to show the commission for transportation disadvantage. We've already been doing it as a pilot program. It's been very successful. We've been very happy with the way it's gone. Um, and so that's why they, uh, they gave us the green light to, to make it bigger. So, and this is just letting, uh, letting you know again of how much, um, dollars we really, really appreciate the fact that you have increased your local match, um, um, to the level, to the level we're at at this time at 166,000. And, and I would hope that we could have more discussion and, and I will be putting in for, uh, for the budget, another 400,000. Mr. Don. I know that this is a difficult subject dealing with, uh, the transportation disadvantage and the LCB who generally gives us the direction on how, uh, through your MPO board on how these monies have been distributed. And, and I will say that in the past, they have had to go through rule changes to try to equitably spread the money around because there was a time when only dialysis patients and they were, there were some companies kind of monopolizing, monopolizing that fund. So I just want to remind you that there have been adjustments in time, both up and down throughout this history. And, um, and in terms of, uh, I assume this would be a budget option. You know, the goals that you gave to me was to bring a budget to a reduction. Uh, um, and we heard discussion about adding other things and your, your messages today also will affect your other nonprofits who are watching. So I just caution that, um, the, the, uh, the challenges of actually landing a budget, um, or, or, or just keep that in mind. And I would only request that this be put in as an option. Just put it in perspective, because we had this conversation during our Marty discussion about the, and I know the Uber thing probably doesn't necessarily fit this, but 79 patients, three times a week, 52 weeks a year is 12,324 trips. The average Uber cost is 15 bucks. It's $184,000. So that maybe there's some thinking outside the box when it comes to expand on that. I understand what the Uber, what the, the challenges is when you have, you get an Uber, um, understand the people that are being tripped. We are ADA accessible. Um, a lot of times you're not going to receive, be able to have an Uber that can transport individuals. Okay. I, I'm, I would assume that most of them could, but anyway, Commissioner Campy. Um, I hear the Uber story quite a bit. You know, I, I know supply and demand, but Uber is a, is a good option, but it's not the solution. Um, I think to Don's, to Mr. Donaldson's point that we, including myself, uh, beating the drum hard on lowering our budget and things like that, what I would like to see and hopefully my colleagues would agree is that we bring the things like this that we need to factor in and then look at a list of things. I'm not necessarily saying I want to increase the budget by $400,000. I'm saying I want to look at a list of, uh, options and see if in my mind, this, you know, what this means to our citizens in term of not just, you know, you started the presentation off rightfully so by explaining how we've expanded and how people had the options and they could go to all of their dialysis appointments. They could also go to a grocery store or to another doctor's appointment, or what about the folks that have to go for chemo and, uh, and then just that's on the medical side. So in my mind, if I was looking at a line item, uh, budget report, I might strike some other things out of the budget and continue to keep this one in. I don't know when, if you could go back to the slide that showed the, uh, how we expanded over the years, maybe one more, that one. I mean, how do you tell the people, the unduplicated 838 people that, hey, hope 2024, uh, was a great year for you, but next year you're back to being on your own. It doesn't create any kind of consistency. People hopefully get better, uh, but more people are added and that's just the medical side of it. So I could, in my own mind, if given the opportunity to put the budget together by myself, I might prioritize this over something else, not in addition to, but instead of something else. And so I would like Mr. Donaldson, I hope my colleagues would agree that if we are giving you a little wish list of things that are important, even with the rest of the not-for-profits, this one in particular, you said it yourself, Karen, this is the most vulnerable, the most at risk, the, the demographic with the fewest options. Uh, I'm sure if someone had a neighbor or a family member that could take them to the doctor, that's most likely the first route that people would try to do. Um, I've mentioned in the past, my mother has a, a little group of older friends, some are younger than her, some are older than her, and they drive each other around to doctor's appointments. And so that's the first option. But for people that don't have that, how do we now tell them no? To Commissioner Hurd's point, how do you tell a dialysis patient, look, you can go for your dialysis, but you can't do anything else. And most likely, if you're on dialysis, you also have to see a different doctor, or your doctor on some occasion. And we've just said, great program, great program, great program, over. I would necessarily put the, you know, would prioritize an additional 400 to our budget and be able to strike it from somewhere else to make it net budget neutral, just as you bring it forward. Thank you. Commissioner Smith. Darren, a couple of things. Um, next time you come back, uh, with or without the budget request, um, can you do like a dot matrix as to where the ridership comes from? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that would be super where it's going, where it's coming, going, that would be helpful just to see. Um, and then statewide or nationally, obviously, we're not the only ones dealing with this. And so what is the conversation at the state level or nationally on what do you do? Um, that's interesting. You asked that question because actually, um, so Chris and I, we actually have been in front of the governor's office. Um, the, the, um, the CFO chatting to him about this two different times. Um, the, um, this is more of a state than a federal, um, with, when it comes to the transportation disadvantage because Florida's very fortunate that we have a, uh, transportation disadvantage plan. I think that we are probably, is that the only state, the only state that has a funding bucket specifically for transportation and disadvantage. Others in, in the, uh, uh, country have to roll it in with their funding that they receive for their, um, uh, mass transit systems. Um, yeah, everybody is going through it. I think that it really, it goes back, um, to the local level. It depends on how important this is to, you know, you, the county commissioners. Um, as you saw, probably one of the first times that we came before you, we had a graph that showed the local match and, and how much other counties are providing. And, um, so that's, that's really kind of where the rubber meets the road, um, is to, to make sure that your vulnerable constituents are taken care of when the need is there. Um, and that's what's being pushed down. So I guess as a thought process, you know, years and years ago on gas tax, um, there was kind of a philosophy in the state that if you weren't maxed out at all the pennies that were available to you in your gas tax, don't come ask for additional revenue from the state. Um, we were told that a lot in years past and we are maxed out and for that purpose. So it'd be interesting to know as well, um, for those communities that at, at some ratio, like if our contribution is 40% of the total funding, at what point does the state say, oh, you're a good participant. We're going to reward you for more funding because you have hit a certain threshold. Well, it, you were rewarded this year again for that 11,000 additional. If you hadn't increased up to 166,000, we would not have had the additional, um, ridership and we would not have received those dollars. But there's still now a $400,000 gap. That's because of the innovative service development grant. And, and go back again to when you are, um, any development grant, whether it's for transportation or whether it's for roads or whatever, you're, you're, um, there's a, a development time and usually service development grants are three years, correct? Um, if you've, if you receive them, they're usually about three years and it's basically to say, hey, prove it that you need it. Um, and you know, but if you're asking for it, know that it's not going to be sustained at that. So you're gonna. Aaron. So here's the disconnect, I think for me. Okay. Fair enough. You prove it and you have, and you've increased the ridership significantly from the state's perspective, both the county and that grant were providing access to individuals that have moved to our state or have grown up in our state that need that access. Right. So to be a whole state, you, you know, someone's looking at the greater pie saying, okay, we have this population base here that needs assistance. Well, if that's true, then on both sides of the equation, whether it's state and or local, as that reliance on that system increases, which is now where we are, I would think that the, and I, I, I know what the answer is, but I mean, I would think that the, the state would look at that going, okay, we as a state are achieving a certain level of ridership that is needed by a certain portion of our constituency for the state of Florida. We have, we have got to figure a stabilized way of funding that into the future versus saying to a county, you got three years to prove it and then you're on your own. Okay. Well, you proved it. It works. You got your ridership, but now we're asking for another 400,000 from a local government that has all sorts of constraints on it, from what we can do budget-wise passed on by the state to us. Those are, those like where the disconnects are. It's like, okay, give us the flexibility then state wish to do what we need to do to handle your constituency that you set us up for in the first place. And now we have, but now we're put in this bind of now, how do you move sustainably into the future? Sounds like an opportunity to put it in legislative priorities. I thought that's about where I'm going. So I just, you know, that all of these, all of these sort of temporary grants that are two, three, four year projects, they're great when there's the funding coming in, but when it ends, somehow magically you're supposed to come up with those funds that you didn't have before, but you prove that the system works. And the need is there. And you're achieving the goals set out by the state in the first place to do what we're doing. So I, you know, I, yes, I would add it to our legislative program. Um, it should be important to our legislators, although a lot of things you would think should be important to our legislators, maybe they're not as much, but, um, for what I've heard from some of our board members as to important, how important this is to us, it absolutely should be a priority of our delegation. I, I agree 100% and thank you for that. And I would be more than happy to come and speak at any time that you'd like me to, in front of the delegation to, to, um, bring that story forward. Great. Thanks. Thank you. Mr. Donaldson. Just one question. Uh, you can see the, you had other municipalities proportionally putting some funds into that. Do you want me to request that they equally prepare to, uh, contribute their portion and share, or do you want to just fund it a hundred percent yourself? Don, ask for the map. If 80% of the rides are coming from one part of the county versus another, or I think what he's mentioned is that that graph that we showed where how much, um, other counties are providing from their GR fund. Um, no, I was referring the local match, the city of Stewart and Indian town. Oh, I'm sorry. Both contributed funds. I would assume you'd us to ask that they equally contribute towards this deficit. More proportionally to where the ridership is. I mean, I don't, I, you know, 90% of the ridership is unincorporated of Martin County. Then by all means, we own 90% of it. If 90% of it's a city of Stewart, maybe that's a different conversation you have. And then does it become the same kind of importance to what the county commissioners have said here today? Is it important for the city as well to have a higher level of contribution because it's their residents that are benefiting from the service? We'll have that prepared this week. That's great. Thank you. Commissioner Hurd. Yeah. Um, so if, if the distribution is anything like your pilot program, it's going to be really lopsided towards the city of Stewart is in your private pilot program. You said that 18 people were in Stewart, one in Hope sound and one in Indian town. So if that's the true of our true of our county wide distribution, then it's going to fall disproportionately upon the city of Stewart's. Was that how those were chosen? It was. Okay. So then you are. So I don't know. I, you know, I, I would just ask for their, uh, not proportionate share, but for at least to duplicate their percentage share of what they're, what they're contributing right now. That's what I was thinking. I know right now they're a smaller portion, but they had at least increase in proportion of what you're doing. Yeah. Well, we actually have the mayor of one of those, um, that would like to speak to us. So would you like to do that now? He wishes she hadn't turned in that sheet. That's her checkbook. She has the checkbook. Don, you still have Taryn Krista's phone number? Get her on the phone. She blocked you. You've been blocked. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Um, for the record, my name is Susan Gibbs Thomas. I am on the council out in the village of Indiantown. I'm also the mayor. I sit on the Martin County MPO, and I also have the privilege of chairing the MPO's local coordinating board for the transportation disadvantaged. Um, and I have to commend this commission for stepping up and, uh, committing more of those matching funds than previously. Being the chair, it, it puts me in a unique position to find out things that I wouldn't have normally known and finding out how that works and proportionate how we get, uh, reimbursed or matched from the state. That is where I stepped up and I figured, okay, if we increase it by 25,000. So Indiantown is a recipient of that, of that, um, of those trips. And so is the city of Stewart. So that's how that came about, kind of challenged the city of Stewart. Would you match? And they stepped up and they said, yes. So it was kind of an arbitrary figure. I mean, it doesn't, it's not really based on anything other than both of us came up and it came up to 25,000 and you guys stepped up. So that put us in a, um, positive, good position. But as you can see, and as has been discussed moving forward, depending on those grants and when they, um, stop or they're not there, then those, those most vulnerable are the ones that are going to pay for it. And I know, and in hearing the comments, I think that, um, it's encouraging to see the, um, commitment to that segment of our community, that they will not be forgotten. And, and talking about thinking outside of the box and maybe with Marty, looking at Marty, I know the way that, that, um, we have looked at that, say, we, the, the, the MPO and discussed that whole, um, model and how it may morph into something else. Maybe in its morphing into something else, there will be a, a, a crossover, a segment that will be able to pick up what the transportation disadvantaged program is leaving behind. So maybe those two working hand in hand would be able to maybe, uh, catch some of those that fall in the crack, but thank you all for your commitment to you, to the residents and to the people that, that really need it. Thank you. Any other? So to recap, you're going to send us two things. One, the budget request and two, as commissioner Smith wisely requested, where are the rides initiating? Yes. I guess it doesn't make a difference where they're going. It's where do they start? And is there a way to, I'm not trying to diminish your thing. I'm just saying that we, with the whole Marty conversation, we got to start thinking outside the box. So is there any way to come up with a percentage of people that actually are ADA that a, what do they call them? Many, like the Uber and the Lyft and all that other would not be able to serve? Um, that do you keep that data of who actually is? We don't do the ADA trips. Marty actually does the ADA trips. We're not a coordinated system yet in Martin County. And I know this is kind of, uh, do you, you can explain it very well, Chris. So I think you're talking, you're talking about microtransit, right? Yeah. Um, so there are, there are segments of the population that are part of the TD program that could probably work in a microtransit situation. Um, but like Karen has, has indicated, uh, a lot of our, a lot of our passengers have mobility aids like wheelchairs and scooters and things like that. That's what I'm saying. If you, if you have the data of what we have all that information, yeah. Okay. Then you bring that back. That would be great. Commissioner Smith. That's probably what you're saying, but maybe I'll say it a little bit differently. Probably better. No, probably not. Um, I think it would be helpful to know out of the 800 and whatever it is, riders, how many are dependent upon TD transportation and how many are not? Meaning are there those that fall into the criteria that aren't wheelchair or aren't scooter right? Um, even if it's 20%, 10%, can that 20%, 10% be off loaded to a newer different system of Uber or some other? So that's interesting. Um, could they, and be careful with the Uber situation too, because who's paying for it? Um, you know, when we, the dollars that we're bringing down for transportation disadvantage, um, we would, we at the CTC would have to, um, contract with Uber or whatever, but we would have to use the same dollars that we're talking about here to pay for that trip, because we know that the most vulnerable, they're not, they can't afford the $15 per trip. That's $30 round trip. Um, but the difference, I think, and what we're discussing at the, at the, at the Marty level, if a trip is $37 for one trip at Marty and in other parts of the state for Uber, Lyft, whoever is 17, 16, whatever, same dollars, but could you, can, can we allocate them to a different source versus the traditional source? And so in this case, there's a cost of the, the, what's the total that we had for last year, for this year? Total dollars or total trips? No, total, total dollars. Total dollars is 1.2 million. 1.2 million. So the 890 trips, whatever there were, whatever that is divided by the 1.2. 28,000 trips. 28,000. By 1.2. By 1.2 comes up to a number, whatever that number is. Around, it's around 40, $43 per trip. And so if 10%, 15%, 17% were able to do it for $17 a trip, you'd have actually more money to put into those that otherwise may not be able to get a trip that are mobily not capable. Does it make sense? Yeah, absolutely. And there's multiple ways when you have a full integrated transit system between mass transit, micro transit, which is kind of what you're talking about, and then the transportation disadvantage and how you move them around. That's one of the things that, that I'll go back to my experience with Indian River County is that it was very, very heavy when I first started, very, very heavy with the transportation disadvantage, those trips, those trips, the ADA trips and all of that, because we expanded our mass transit coverage throughout the county. Then what was happening is that the TD riders were able to and get on the mass transit. They can get to it and they can use it. So then the number that we were tripping for transportation disadvantage decreased and the numbers of the mass transit increased. And we're now at $4.35 per trip on our mass transit system, which is a lot less because our, and we don't charge, you know, we're fare free. But it's only because of the strategy of the marketing and where we place all of our, you know, all of that. So that's the crossover. And include microtransit with it too. And you can, you could have a phenomenal system here that is not as costly as what we're talking about. Pardon me? And you have over a million riders a year. We're going to be hitting 1.3 million this year. And we're going to hit. Trips, not riders, trips. Trips. Yeah. Yeah, 101.3 million trips in a county the same size as ours. And so at some point, something's got to budge. Because if we were to say today or in July, we hear you, we're going to put $400,000 into that process. Would it be better to put a million dollars into the overall transit system and start forcing us to this crossover that you're talking about, that it's really not the 400,000? It's expanding the existing capacity to be able to compensate for that 400,000 or those 28,000 trips that are transportation disadvantaged. That what you all did in Indian River County 10 years ago, at some point, something's got to budge. Right. And it's not going to happen immediately. So yes, you could think about it that way. Don't leave people behind initially while you're making those decisions, because you're not going to have that system immediately, as we all know. But I think if the, and this isn't going to sound right, but if the knee-jerk reaction is to spend the 400,000 to cover the deficit of what's been created because the state funding isn't following, right? Strategically, the whole system, if we were to rethink the whole system, is there a scale of economy? And do we start getting closer to the crossroad where they start passing by? In time, absolutely. Take a few years, but in time, absolutely. And I think you'd probably have a different conversation, maybe, than we'll have a budget time if we knew that that's where we were headed. And that's, I think, why we had this conversation about the microtransit that maybe there's a much better way to do this with the amount of money we're spending. That's all. Just food for thought. Okay. Apparently, the chair of the Transportation Disadvantage Committee would like another word. Or the mayor of Indiantown. She was that last time. Let's get rid of this one. Kind of speaking as both, thank you so much. Just a little piece of information. I know that United Way has a trip program, and they max out, I believe I heard the other day, at five trips in a lifetime. However, they do the Uber thing or Lyft thing. They cannot find drivers out in Indiantown. So, that may be an issue when you're looking at different parts of the county, that in this type of a situation, it may be a challenge. Because there's no demand. If there was demand, maybe that would be. True. True. True. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Where are we at with this? She has marching orders. They do, and they will. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. We're in just a parting conversation. Great job, you guys. Excellent job. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next up, Office of Management and Budget items which require board approval. Ms. Stephanie Murley. Here she is. There I am. Three items. Good afternoon, Commissioner. Stephanie Murley, Director of the Office of Management and Budget, here presenting to you three items on OMB today. The first item is a permission to apply for the FY 2025 Mosquito Control Grant. The Mosquito Control Division is requesting $61,855 for the purchase of chemicals and equipment used for arthropod control. There is a local grant match of 20% required, which is budgeted through the cost of chemicals in the operating budget. Our second item is a permission to accept funding from the Florida Inland Navigation District or fine for derelict vessel removal funds. This is a grant award of $75,000 for reimbursement of the removal and destruction of derelict vessels, which were already taken care of. There was 18 vessels. The match has been already spent 25% out of the derelict vessel removal program. The last item is a permission to accept the FDOT supplemental agreement for the City of Stewart various Riverside Park neighborhood improvements. This actually decreases the grant contract by $100,395 and increases the local funds that is provided by the City of Stewart by $26,380. Again, this is a city project and we accept the funds from them. They cut us a check with an administrative fee and we just request that the board approve this agreement that reduces the cost. Motion to accept stance recommendations. Second. Okay, we have a motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Before we get going, did we miss a speaker on our last? Would you like to do that now? Yes, ma'am. Absolutely. Does she want a microphone? She could sit down. Does that mic work? Ma'am, would it be easier for you to sit down if we had a cordless mic for you? No, I don't want to hold it, but thank you. Afternoon. Good afternoon. My name is Laverne Williams. Thank you, Board of Commissioners, for agreeing to paying the $166,000 match to help us with the funding for the transportation. I am one of those individuals that make use of the community coach. No, I'm not on dialysis, but I do, but I am disabled and I have no other means of getting around but this. I don't have family here or anybody and it's kind of hard to keep asking people that you know, take me here, take me there, without a little agitation on their part, even though they are questions. I'm not saying negative things about anybody that do help me out if you happen to be watching us. Thank you, thank you, thank you. But it's nice to feel independent. It's nice. It's very nice. Sorry, I get nervous. It's very nice to feel independent and safe on a transportation system that can take you to and from. So I have a couple questions if you don't mind. Has anyone considered, and I'm sure they have, with the new development that's going on, what percentage of those new residents that are coming into the community will need the service? Can we consider that in regards to the percentage of where the funds should be taken out? Whether it's rural, whether it's steward, I don't know. But that will also increase ridership, if I'm not mistaken. And based on Commissioner Smith's statement, if we give the $400,000 now, what's to say we won't have to give it again next year? And so how are we going to plan out our budget within the next two or three years so it can work with the group that's working with Marty? How do we do this efficiently, quickly, so everybody's not left behind? We're still using marketing money to ask people to still participate in this transportation, which is kind of crazy for me. Why are we asking people to join when we won't even have the ridership for them to participate? How are we going to discuss that with them to say that, okay, we invited you, you're going to join into this program, but now the money's not available. The rides are not available. How is that going to affect the healthiness of our whole community, our whole county at large? I don't know, but if you can consider that. And the last thing that I would like to say, if we give more rides to the people that have dialysis, and my heart goes out for them, because that's tough to sit there three or four hours a day and just only get to do that and not to have the pleasure of being relieved of going somewhere with not, I don't know how to, I'm getting nervous, so I'm running. You're doing great. It's not fair that the governor or that the state of Florida, which is very rich, is not considering the riderships of the disadvantaged. I don't think it's fair. I don't think it's fair, if you don't mind me saying, that they can entice us to do better in our improvements and then take the money away. I don't think it's fair that we are now going to, because I went through this the last time, the time before, of cutting down to once a week travels. How do I determine what's more important? My time is up. No, you're good. Don't worry about it. Oh, okay. How do I determine what's more important in one week? To go to the grocery store or maybe to go to the movies just to get the mental relaxation that's needed or to go to log cabin for socialization? How do I determine for me? I don't know about anyone else. What's more important for me to be stable? I don't know how to do that, and I just pray that you all will reconsider. And I don't want anyone else to miss out on the funding, you know, other not-for-profit fundings. But how are you going to do this? It's going to be equitable for the whole county and not just for the few. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you very much for coming back after lunch. Sorry we missed you the first time. Okay. That's the face of the issue right there. Christy, you follow. We need a million dollars from you. Yeah. Department number two, contracts that meet the threshold of the board approval, $1 million or greater. Christy Brotherton. Good afternoon, Christy Brotherton, Chief Procurement Officer. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, before we start. Just one. That's it. I will be abstaining from item A1. As a consultant for Ferreira, they have bid on this particular item. So I have submitted my form AP, and I will be abstaining from the item. Thank you. So we have one contract for your consideration today, which is a continuing services agreement. This is for infrastructure, construction, and maintenance contract. And the individual work orders are limited to $300,000 per project. The contract maximum not to exceed term of five years. And staff is recommending that the board award the contract to the lowest responsive and responsible bidders, which are coastal land development of Martin County and Sunshine Land Design. And move that the board authorize the county administrator or designee to execute all documents related to this request. And that concludes this item. Motion to accept staff's recommendation. Second. Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Smith. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion passes four to zero with Commissioner Hetherington abstaining. Thank you. Which I don't understand why you abstain. Okay. Department number three. Martin, Chair, can we allow Sebastian, the gentleman with the crutches, to sit down, standing there for a half an hour on crutches? Why don't you take a seat? Very well. My request is withdrawn. Department number three. Martin County Energy and Energy Related Operational Cost Savings Project. Mr. Sean Donahue. Take it away. Can you save us an additional $566,000, please, for the bus? Good afternoon. Sean Donahue, Director of General Services Department. I'm here to present the contract for an energy savings project. If you remember back in September, we presented the history of the energy savings at the county since 2007. Very successful projects to the effort of saving about $50 million on those five projects with a cost of about $30 million, so a $20 million savings across the county. Very good projects. We mentioned at the time that there was potential for additional energy savings. Some of those projects that we did in the past were fairly old, and we can update with LEDs and other technologies that weren't present at the time. So we're here to present another project like that, studying all the county buildings for weatherization, for LED lighting, for specific projects like adding the PSC public safety complex to the jail's chiller plant, overhauling the Cummings Library HVAC systems, and things like that. So we did an RFP, or an RFQ, and we received some nationwide firms, Trane, Honeywell, Schneider Electric, and FPL. So it was a very good selection of candidates. We did end up choosing Trane, and the representative Trane is here. Steve Corson's in the back, if we have any questions at the end. So, whoops. So we're here to present an investment-grade audit contract, and Trane has graciously agreed to perform this contract at no cost. If the project doesn't work out, if there's not any energy savings, the county can walk away from this project no cost to the county. If there are good energy savings, and we can meet an ROI that's sufficient for the county, we can continue forward, and those costs will be rolled into an energy performance contract, and that'll come back with a new contract that you'll review in a couple months with financing options. So right now, the request is to approve a zero-cost energy savings contract, where we study all the county buildings. It's called an investment-grade audit. We'll take any questions if you have them. Commissioner Smith. A couple. Steve, good to see you. Have we had any discussion, either you, Steve, or us, with the school board, relative to their ball field, just as a starting point, ball field lighting, like what we did with you years and years ago? For the record, Steve Corson with Trane. Commissioner Smith, we have not. When we did the sports lighting project in 2012, we had some discussions for Hidden Oaks Middle School. There was a joint use agreement, but that was not included in the project that the county performed at that time. We'd be welcomed to start a conversation with the district about the possibility to work with their joint use facilities from a parks perspective, or also do an independent project for the district. I just think, you know, I always thought when we did this project originally, it was a shame that they didn't tag on with us and do all their fields with us, because you've got Pineapple up on Jen's Beach Boulevard sitting right next to the high school. And it's like, okay, we could have done this all together. That was part of the commentary. So, Don, I don't know how best to reach out to the school board and talk to them about this. We should have done this at the joint meeting the other day, and I forgot completely all about it. But I think it's a heck of an opportunity. And then, Steve, I think last time you were here, maybe six, eight months ago, a year ago, we talked about the savings that we have accomplished thus far doing this work with you all, and how few in the state or how few across the country have actually done this stuff with you. Can you elaborate on that just to talk about what the county has done, how much, I mean, we know how much it's saved, but I mean, how much that relates to relative to others that aren't doing it? Sure. The previous slide, if we could go back, had a summary of the completed projects countywide. You've addressed the infrastructure in all of your major buildings, which is significant. The majority of counties, two-thirds of the school districts, have done a project. I don't think anyone has been as comprehensive in scope over time as Martin County or has taken advantage of the leverage available from energy and operational savings to offset and reduce tax burden on your infrastructure. So you've shown leadership there. A lot of other projects have been specific buildings or pilot-level projects in other counties and other districts. We certainly are encouraging your counterparts to perform similar projects, and there are great incentives available to do that. So the opportunity is growing. The market opportunity for cities, counties, school districts in Florida and across the country is also growing. So my math isn't really that quick, but we might have saved somewhere around $20 million over the course of doing this. That's correct. You know, it's interesting. There's been a lot of commentary lately about where Martin County falls relative to our taxable rate and our values and how much we do or don't do. And things like this get lost, I think, in the shuffle, which is why I would spend so much time asking you the question of what have we really done, what have we accomplished, because that's a big number. To me, anyway, $20 million is a big number. And I appreciate all the work that you all have done and helped us to get to. And I very much look forward to the next generation of this, because I think there's still a lot of opportunity left. And I think specifically if there was a way that we could bring the school board into this conversation and take advantage of those savings for the school department, even better. Thank you for everything. Thank you very much. I thought when we originally did the Musco lighting situation, not only was there energy savings, but there was also you had the equipment to get up on these massive high towers, and you're responsible for changing out the light bulbs and the heads if they fail. It was also a remarkable difference with Charlie Layton Park. As you came over the Palm City Bridge, it used to light up the whole entire neighborhood, and now when you come, you can look at it from a light pollution point of view. It is so angled right down there. I agree with Commissioner Smith about the school district. Our parks and rec department, with some private funding from some foundations, redid the baseball fields at Hidden Oaks Middle School, and the only thing that was still lacking was the fact that the lighting was school district lighting, and we're spoiled now from what you've created for us. And so you can mention our names when you call over there, and then we'll get the referral. I appreciate that. I think to comment on the impact and also comments from Commissioner Smith, what's unseen is the impact that we've had on deferred maintenance. What's unseen is the increase in service level and safety, especially with the parks and the sports line project. What's unseen is the leadership that you have with respect to safe and healthy environments in the buildings. Those are all things that we've been able to address and where you've been able to show your leadership. So we appreciate the opportunity to look forward to working with Director Donahue and his team, which has been a longstanding pleasure, and look forward to coming back with another successful project. Commissioner Hurd. Yeah, I move that the board award the contract to train U.S. Inc. and move that the board authorize the county administrator or designee to execute all documents related to this request. Second. Oh, she swooped right in there and got a motion. How about it? Can't stop a train. Commissioner Smith. Isn't that the Marlowe? I was going to say nothing runs like a train, but that's John Deere. Right, Director Donahue? That's your new title. John, Steve, just one more note. His name is Director Donahue now. That's correct. So on the financing of all this, how does this work? How much did we borrow to do this? We typically have used a tax-exempt capital lease, which is 100% project value financing. By who, Steve? We've used SunTrust. We've used Bank of America. I'm sorry, but TRAIN is doing that. TRAIN is facilitating financing. The financing has been secured with the help from your financial advisor through your normal budget approval process with input with your financial advisor with respect to acceptable rates and terms. Great. Thanks. Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Hurd, seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Thanks. And we have DeHair here with our keys to our new TBM County airplane, right? No. Oh, I'm sorry. Department number four, approval of the Seventh Amendment to commercial lease with DeHair Aerospace Incorporated. Mr. Sebastian. Now please sit down so we can feel better. Yeah. Yeah. Say his last name. I've known him his whole life, and I still don't know his last name. Now everyone knows why. I go by Sebastian. It's Poprovsky, but Sebastian works. Good afternoon, Commissioners. Good afternoon. I'm here with Mr. McBean, director of Wytham-Airfield. Good afternoon. We're here before you because, as you know, DeHair was the recipient or was awarded a long-term lease for the RFP that went forward earlier this year. That is a 10-year lease with two 10-year extensions. However, their current lease, referred to as the old lease, expires at the end of this month. The new lease is well over 100 pages. We've gone back and forth numerous times, and we have it finished. The only issue is that the FAA would like to take a look at it, and the FAA does not abide by our timelines necessarily, and I cannot foresee that they will be done by the end of this month. They may be. More likely than not, it will not be ready. So this is a simple extension, four months. I don't believe we'll need all four months before we can bring back the long-term lease in front of you. Commissioner Campy. Motion to accept staff's recommendation. All of that to make a motion. It's like a family feud up here. Okay. Any other discussion? Mr. Bean, you can't move the FAA process along any faster than that? I can try, but it usually doesn't work. All right. We have a motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Hurd. All in favor? Aye. Motion carries unanimously. Now, Mr. Donaldson has something he would like to discuss. Yes, I have two things. One is the first thing was we got a letter from the village manager for Indiantown regarding a letter supporting a targeted business, and it is for a letter of support for a grant application, which is due the 24th. And this was requested to Commissioner Jenkins and I as the chair. The actual business itself is recycling glass material into a usable product. So it is, we did some research on the industry to make sure that it was something that was beneficial. It is, and so the village is asking that we could support a letter, again, for their grant application, which is due the 24th. And the title of it is Urban Mining Industries that will be converse post-consumer recycled glass that would otherwise go to a landfill into ground glass. They call it POSITIVE is their trademark name for the end product. See if they want to come to unincorporated Martin County. That turned quick, ugly quick. Get their address and contact information. So that's the next one was if you open. Yes. Yes. What do you need for that? So it would be approval that the chair could sign the letter in support of their grant application. Motion. I'd make a motion. To support our brothers and sisters in Indiantown. Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Campy, seconded by Commissioner Hetherington. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Next. And the second one was earlier this morning. You asked about Bathtub Beach. I have staff here. If you want to talk, Commissioner, about the. That was quick. Fundamentally, the issue is that we are doing a resiliency project to raise MacArthur Road. There is not much room there to do both put in the wall and raise the road up over, I believe, 12 inches and then and maintain two-way traffic. So the park is both a staging area and a bypass. And I think the question has been how the beach is open. It's always open. And it's just whether parking is there and lifeguards are there intermittently. And so staff is going to talk about where we are with the contractor and what can be done. They both still smell like sunscreen. Hold on a minute. Yes. Commissioner Smith. So maybe I should wait until this shows the presentation, but my goal here is in the conversation when I found out about this. And we have had multiple, multiple meetings on the elevation and the rebuilding of MacArthur from basically the Wentworth House, which is the yellow house on the corner to the entranceway of Sailfish Point. I don't recall ever really hearing the idea that we were going to shut down bathtub for the entire summer and shift the traffic through. I mean, it's an innovative idea. Great idea. We've just got to come up with a better way. I just, our residents, visitors wait all winter long for the weather to calm down to get to the summer to take advantage of some of our better resources. And so I'm looking for any ideas, options, if that means there's one-way traffic going through the park and one way coming out of MacArthur and vice versa, fine. But we, I just can't not support shutting it down for the entire summer, if that's the plan. Okay. We're here to present. I'm George Zama. I'm Public Works Deputy Director. With me is Jim Gorton, Public Works Director. So we just wanted to, we put together a brief presentation just to first give an overview of the project, the scope, what we've constructed, where we're at, and hopefully very soon having the park and beach open for the public for the foreseeable future. So just a general overview, this project, as Don mentioned, is a resilience project. It was identified as a resilience project before there was really a formal resilience program in the state and in the county. So the concept of the project, it was a two-phase approach to construct a shoreline barrier wall along the dune and then also raise the roadway. The roadway at its lowest point is elevation 2.5, and it's within a FEMA flood plain elevation of area of elevation 6. So it's very low, or I should say 5, because we're raising the roadway up to elevation 5. So there's a portion of the road, if you look down here, there's a profile. This hashed area is the area that we're raising the roadway. So most of the roadway we're raising at upwards of 2 to 2 1⁄2 feet, basically from the curve to the roundabout near Sailfish Point. The whole goal of the project is to protect the infrastructure. So the wall protects, helps protect both the infrastructure of the park, which is the parking lot. The county has invested in a restroom and a station for fire rescue that's housed here at this restroom location, and the roadway itself. The roadway provides a connection to the residents of Sailfish Point, residents along the corridor here, and as well as the park. So phase one within this project, we had to first permit the wall and construct the wall before we can even permit the roadway and another wall on the west side. So phase one has been constructed, as you all are well aware, and now we're in phase two of the project, which consists of adding a retaining wall on the west side of the roadway to support the roadway itself, as well as we're adding an additional traffic lane to accommodate for traffic to the park. So the western side of the roadway, this here, this, as you can see, there's three residents, private property owners, and then this area is actually county property. This area is vulnerable to sea level rise and storm surge. So we were successful in adding a retaining wall to protect the western portion of the roadway to undermining or erosion. So with phase two, it incorporates both raising the roadway, adding the retaining wall, and associated drainage. You know, we're adding water quality to accommodate for the first flush of stormwater in these retention areas. And so with that, within this phase two project, we have a drainage portion and then the roadway portion. So like Don mentioned, we have several constraints. We have the ocean here. We have the lagoon. We have tight right-of-way through here. This roadway is 20 feet wide. So to construct this wall, which is the first item, the scope item for the project, to facilitate, there's going to be heavy machinery out there to drive these sheet piles. They're 20-foot sheet piles. You have a smaller crane or a heavy or a bigger excavator that's actually going to be out there. They're going to have to stage a lot of the material that's already on site, the sheets. So they need to be able to stage as well as operate the heavy machinery to actually pick up and swing the material and actually drive it in the ground. So they're going to need this whole area to perform the sheet pile installation work. And then after that, they're going to work on, before they raise the roadway, as you can see, we have some cross-strains here that cross the roadway. Those are going to go in basically at the existing roadway elevation. So they have to get that in first before they do the road work. So all of that's going to get incorporated mainly in this area first. And due to the fact that this area is under such a tight constraint, the proposal is to route traffic through the parking lot. And with that, there is a maintenance of traffic plan that has been proposed. Sailfish Point is over here. This is the entrance to Sailfish Point. Here's the roundabout. This is Bathtub Beach parking lot. This is the old pavilion here, which no longer exists. So we're going to be routing traffic two-way. The proposal is to utilize the whole roadway section for material and equipment staging to drive the sheet pile, which is going to run this whole section through this area, this green zone. This whole area is the work area for the sheet pile and the drainage here. So two-way traffic will be bypassed. As you can see, these are tight turns and have to travel through the parking lot. They're going to have to perform some modifications here at this entrance to the roundabout, and they're also going to have to perform modifications at the northern end of the parking lot to stabilize a temporary roadway to utilize for temporary traffic control. Once the project is complete, once this section is complete, which will take approximately three months per the construction schedule, with this type of closure, it allows them to operate much quicker because they don't have to perform traffic control. We did look at other options to potentially have one-way traffic here, one-way traffic through the parking lot, but they would have to perform more traffic control operations and flagging operations to potentially store material somewhere over here if it's possible or even within here. It's just really tight constraints and rather unsafe to be swinging materials and machinery. So the option that we had for at least this first phase of sheet pile and most of the drainage work is to perform two-way temporary traffic through the parking lot. Now, once this portion is done, if we could go back, we still have to perform work, some drainage work over here, so we may end up having to go back. That's where we're going to look with the contractor for the next temporary traffic control phase to perform single-lane traffic through the existing roadway. Once the drainage is complete and they actually start the road work, the road work is actually going to go much quicker. It's probably going to take anywhere from six to eight weeks. They're actually going to pave the roadway in three-inch lifts. So they're going to go one pass north, one pass south, three inches at a time, and it's going to take, you know, and you can only do one per day to allow the asphalt to cool. So it's three inches per day in increments, and then they're going to work their way up to the designed elevation. And then once all that's complete, they'll probably end up completing this retention pond and finish grading and landscaping. So just to give some project parameters, the overall project has started. It's technically started yesterday, and the contract is until November. They feel that they could get the project done by November before season starts and when we get a lot of traffic through this corridor. The drainage, as I mentioned, the scope to drive the sheet piles and the bulk of the drainage is about three months from mid-June to mid-September, and then the roadway portion will take us to November. The bathtub park impacts, it's proposed to be closed during construction, the bathroom, and the parking lot itself, but bathtub beach itself is open. Folks can, and beachgoers can travel to the beach through Chastain, and I just wanted to highlight our partners with the project, FEMA, HMGP, and FDEP Resilience. And with that, we can answer specific questions. Mr. Schmidt. Thank you, George. So a lot of design questions in terms of maintenance of traffic. Can they do one lane? Is it impossible or can they? Not while they're swimming. Okay. And the eastern edge of the right-of-way, eastern edge towards the ocean, if that foliage, what's ever in there, is to be removed, can we not squeeze the travel lane or space out of that space on the eastern edge to give you that two full lanes of traffic where they now have a much wider space to work on the wall? And at the north end, where the stormwater work is going to happen, years and years ago, that north end used to be open next to the Wentworth House. Ultimately, it would be great to get that capacity back. And so if that can be used as a portion, whether it's for staging, whether it's anything else, at one time had parking and had an entranceway right up next to the Wentworth House. Whether that's ultimate or not, I don't know. And coming around that corner, maybe not the safest thing in the world. But right there, a little bit, right, no, keep going a little bit more, right there. If that was the old entrance, exit, whatever, all that space between there and what you can see to the south of the parking lot, can we reclaim any of that? Is there any place for staging for that? If the stormwater is going to be done at the end, why can't all of that be cleared out for storing the materials? And, yeah, they're going to have to move it around more than maybe they'd like to. I just don't. Bathtub has been closed for so long. And now we're in the summer, which should be the best time of the year to use it, and we're shutting it down until November. There has to be a better answer. There has to be something different we can do. So the first phase, when they're driving sheet pile, there really is no safe way to have an exit. It's very similar to what we are doing right now, what Jupiter Island's doing right now on Bridge Road, is we have to close that road because you're lifting things with a crane and dangling them from that crane and spinning them around and getting them into place. And the potential for something going wrong is high if you're mixing vehicles with that construction activity on the road. So certainly the sheet pile portion of that project, which is just that shorter wall, is one that we really can't mix traffic on the roadway. Fair enough. So what if you break it in half? That where the main entrance is today, you do the south end first. You have the traffic come down the full length. You come in, come up to where your maintenance traffic design was, and then come back out to your new exit down towards Sailfish, and you do the north end of the sheet pile. And when you finish the north end of the sheet pile, you reverse it. You take the travel lane, and you use what has been done with sheet pile, use that portion of the road, which frees up the parking lot, at least a half of the parking lot that you could use a half of it. So there's got to be a better way than just having both lanes of traffic go through, which makes all the sense in the world. I appreciate that. The second piece is just that if we have the bathtub beach parking lot open and you have even one lane of traffic running through the parking lot, then you have residents who are parking on the other side of that active road, crossing the road to get to the other side or to the bathroom or to whatever destination they have, but they're actually walking across that active roadway that gets a ton of traffic. It's really kind of surprising how many vehicles actually go through there in a day, especially in the morning. But can we talk to the contractor about it? Absolutely. But really from a safety standpoint, during the sheet pile operation, mixing the two doesn't go well. The only thing I would recall for all of us during Francis and Jean, we had this big hole in the road out there, and every day they filled it up and they had temporary movement at night, and then they dug it up the next day. They worked on it. They filled it up. They dug it. They filled it up. If there's a will to do it and a want to do it, there's a way for them to figure it out or at least give us half the parking lot. And then are they planning to work through the weekends seven days a week? No, unless if they come up on time constraints because we're adamant that they finish by November. So then at least if for nothing else they cease everything for the weekend and we give access to the parking lot for the weekend. So the problem is, you know, I've had a discussion with the contractor. I think what a lot of it comes down to is the liability. They – it's a construction site, the whole area, and it's basically their site that they assume control over for their work zone. And because – just because there's no work activity going on, if they have machinery or materials there and you have a beachgoer that comes over and is curious and gets hurt, they're liable. The contractor is still liable. The county is still liable. The problem with that, George, the beach is open, you said. There's going to be people on the beach. If they're curious, they're going to walk over the dune and they'll hurt themselves. That's fenced up. I mean, the liability exists no matter what. It's up to the contractor and us up to figure out how do we limit that liability. Turn your mic on. Well, I just want the rest of the board, if they didn't know what was going on, because I certainly didn't ever see this until last week. And then this whole idea with the lifeguards and whether it's guarded, it's not guarded. We all know what happens when we mess with the beach and we shut things down. What I was going to suggest is that I agree with you trying to get it open for the weekends. We'll continue to work with the contractor and that if the contractor is looking for some shared or release of liability, we would bring that to the board for approval if that was up to the, you know, with concurrence with legal. So I think there may be some opportunities to kind of open this off and on during the, but it will take some shared risk. And in order to do that, we'll bring that back. I just want everybody else to understand when they start getting calls that we didn't just say, oh, well, it's going to be closed for the entire summer. Being a contractor and having to do works not necessarily like this, but similar to this, I understand the position you guys are in. And I understand the position the contractor is in, and it's not that easy. I understand where you're coming from. But anyway, Commissioner Hurd. Yeah, just about the design itself. So you're going to raise the road to five feet, from two to five feet. What elevations are the offshore wall and the lagoon side wall? So the shoreline wall is just under 10 feet. It's basically 10 feet, 9.9 feet. And the lagoon side wall. Backfill to what? Excuse me. You're going to backfill it to what? It's covered by the dune. Okay. It's covered. So then the lagoon side? It's at elevation six. Okay. And also the parking lot is at what elevation? The parking lot is at elevation. It ranges, it's about elevation six. Okay. Okay. So it's much higher than the road is. Yeah. And the dune, as restored, is elevation 14 and a half. Okay. I stand corrected. And also I agree with Commissioner Jenkins that I understand that this is going to be a big and messy and dangerous work site. And I don't want to commingle residents and construction crews and construction equipment. I certainly understand Commissioner Smith, you know, but I think that this is, I think that the hazards of this construction job outweigh the inconvenience of the residents for three months. It's going to be a messy project before and after. And all the calls your way. I have a beach this big at Twin Rivers Park that was never there before it started eroding. But now all the residents, they're entitled to that park. You know, don't touch it. I get it. This is a way bigger problem. No. It was just as requested. Are you done with your... I am done. Thank you, sir. Thank you. So we have reached the agenda. So it's time for public comment. Do we have anybody that would like to... Mr. Pine? Good morning, Commissioners. My name's Tom Pine. Yes, speaking of the trying to open the Bathtub Beach parking lot while under construction, it reminds me the first time I came and spoke at this county commission. It was putting in pipe on Indian River Drive on a county project. People working, all the things sticking above the top of the ditch were their heads. No shoring. A pump in the bottom of the ditch, pumping water out. And I show pictures. County project. You too. I go back the next day. What's changed? There's not a shoring anywhere. There's still pumping water out of the bottom. They have hard hats on. It shows how much safety matters to our leadership here. And obviously, trying to force this change and force it to have people use Bathtub Beach, even though it's going to be very dangerous. I'd like to see the commissioner put his name on something that he's going to take responsibility when people get hurt. Because it sure shows loud and clear from past safety doesn't matter very much standing up here, watching those people work in a ditch with no shoring and water in the bottom of it. Now we're going to put people in harm's way with pilings being driven? Nice job. Thank you. Thank you. Any other public comment? Hey, commissioner, comment. Anything else? You're good. I'm all set. Okay. I'm all set. I'm all set. Happy 4th of July. Oh, yeah. We're not going to meet before 4th of July. July 19th, I thought. July 9th. July 9th, yeah. Wow. I'm set. Okay. All right. With that, we are adjourned.