Welcome, everyone. Let's call the meeting to order and say the pleasure of allegiance. We also have some minutes. If anyone has any comments or would like to make a motion, we will entertain that. Make a motion to approve. Any comments? Second. All in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? All right. Minutes are approved. We'll go on to any disclosures of conflicts of interest. None there. We have a public comment section. If anyone, a member of the public, would like to speak, please do so. Okay. We'll move into new business then. The Hope Sound Public Library Mural Project Artist Recommendation. All righty. Good afternoon. Elise Raffa, Community Development Coordinator. It's been a while since we last met, but it's super exciting that we can finally talk about murals at the library. Sorry. So, with that said, I wanted to let you guys know that we had the call advertised for 45 days. It was on the call for entry website where we collected the applications. It also was distributed on the county, Martin Arts, and then the Florida Public Art Professionals. I'm going to mess it up. Florida Association of Public Art Professionals channels. In total, we had 16 eligible applications. This was open to professional artists based in Florida, just as a reiteration. So, last week, staff evaluated all applications using the established scoring criteria, with each artist able to earn up to 100 points. I'll pull this up as I speak. The criteria included artistic quality and concept, artist experience, and community cultural residence, proposal execution, and statement of interest. I want to note that the artist experience carried the most weight, 35 out of 100 possible points, emphasizing the importance of public art experience and strong past work experience. The call encouraged artists to highlight Florida's scrub environment. Suggested concepts included scenes of children reading, as well as more imaginative library adventure scenes with animals engaging with books. The final mural is expected to cover roughly 900 to 1,000 square feet. Based on these total scores, staff recommends the following top three artists for the short list, which would be Nick Albano, Nathan DeLineos, I don't know how to say his last name, sorry, and Daniela Sanchez-Vegas. Staff is requesting that the PAC select one of these three artists from the short list to recommend to the Board of County Commissioners. As an alternative, the PAC can choose to review all 16 applications. If so, we would need to schedule a separate meeting that's publicly noticed, and each PAC member would need to independently review all 16 submissions using the established scoring criteria, which is expected to take about three hours or more, and it would, of course, put a delay in the library schedule for this project. So I'm... Can we see the last slide? Oh, sorry. This... I thought I clicked it. So I'd like to know if we want to move forward with the three that I've shortlisted based on this criteria, or if you would alternatively like to... Absolutely, because this is going to be hard enough. Can you go back and show the points for each one? Oh, sure. So we had Nick with 88 points, we had Nathan with 88 points, and we had Daniela Sanchez-Vegas with 86 points. Okay. So do you need any kind of motion on the first part about not going... Yes, that if we're going to go off of... Or looking at all 16? Yeah, I'm looking at... Okay. Any... Does anybody want to second that? The three. I'll accept it. I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? Okay. So the three will... You already boiled it down for us. Okay. So you each have in your binders, similar as last time, I'm thinking I can allot about like 15 minutes for you to just read through the statement, their resume, their concept, work samples, and then you will have your scoring in which you'll rank first, second, and third. It's tucked into like the front of the binder, and I can start the timer now, and I'll leave you to it. Great. Thanks. Hmm? Can we loop it? Yeah, and feel free to discuss like as you... Slide show. Can we go from beginning? Will it just loop? Can we do it on the... Do it on the... No, it's her over there. I'm just... I want to just loop it. She'll be able to... I never use that TV, so I don't have to sit and keep doing those. Yeah, yeah. All in the loop. Yeah. Oh, good. Frank, go. And then do it. Just play through, I guess. Oh, dooration. You have to put up dooration on each side. Go back to where it was. What's that? Scrub J is. Yeah. Yeah, the Scrub J is. And the crane. The first one? Mm-hmm. Yeah, on the first one. Automatically, can you change this slide? I've got to find it. No, that's... Yeah, my question on the second one is... This is a 90-foot wall. Where's the rest of the door? Yeah. That's what I was thinking, too. Oh, the second one with the boy and the girl? Yeah. And the butterfly? The red? It's probably a red-headed woodpecker to me. Yeah, it's probably a native. I've seen him. The monarch. I mean, the one dude said something about a zebra, which is like a state butterfly. Yeah, that's the top left. The third one, though, it looks like a carrot wood tree or something. They're showing a picture of it, which is... You don't need to show number one, no, do you? Yeah, that's just the whole thing. Okay. What's the rest of it look like? That's what it is. No, let's... Excuse me. What's the length of the wall? So the mural has to be between 900 and 1,000 square feet. I can pull up the site details. Would that be helpful? No, I'm just... I'm just because this does not look like something that's going to fit on 90 feet. Well, I mean... Yes, it is working. I don't think that's... I want to say, do you know the post office in Palm City? Yeah, that's beautiful. I wouldn't have a course. No, this is longer. Yeah, this one seems like it's too expensive. 36,000. They're only went to the second slide. They're all $10,000. You have to do something for that slide? The information? Here, let me pull up the site details. So the three... We have some library staff here, and it's a little longer than this wall. It's longer than this. So I don't know what this is, but... No, this one, look. It's, what, 100 feet? Yeah, I'm pulling it up right now. Oh, yeah. She'll pull it up, and you can actually see it. You're going to have to just remember what the post office one looks like because we don't have a picture of that. Okay. Then you'll be good. And then there's another piece here. And then if I... See? That's mostly window. It's mostly window and door. So the total length of the wall is 88 feet and 6 inches and 13 feet. Yeah. Did you do that? I do like the... I like the second guy's work, though. It's different. You know what I mean? It's different. On the walls... These are all painted, right? Yes. It's not like it's painted and applied or printed on something and that thing's... No. So all the work samples are murals for those applicants. I like the way it looks on the walls he's already done. Almost... I don't know. It's a hard decision. The first guy's concept to me is good, but... It's very clean. It's real clean, and the one that's... It's clean. It's got... Then you have the kids here. But I feel like you're on the library. Well, this is what they learn in the library. You get books and birds, and you have the kids, both of them, sitting there. Everyone has to do it. You mean this one here? We'll figure it out. Yeah. Yeah, I just never use PowerPoint. They're all good. I guess I like the way he executes second guy. It's more kind of graffiti-like or something. Take five. Yeah. When did third one? Like depth. There's like some depth for like foreground and background or something. I think it's ten seconds on each. The third one's good, too. Yeah. Yeah, she's got a similar style in a way. Where's that? On the third one? Like the books. That's what it is. Maybe because... Oh, what's interesting is that you can see where she actually superimposed it over the building. Yeah. So you can see what it's going to look like. One thing I can't figure out is the skunk. That's throwing me off, too. Not saying we don't have any, but... No. I kind of am not fond of the black and white with the color for some reason. The kids are in black and white and everything else. Probably trying to isolate them from the colors, so we can... I'll be honest with you, the first one I like a lot better. The first one's really well done. Yeah. And the one he did in the building with the... I know. Yeah, I mean, that fits the style in a way. Where the other two, you know, they're kind of out of context. They're not in, like, on the wall. And the way this is portrayed is really nice looking. No, he's got butterflies and jay... I kind of like it without words, too, and it's just... Because, I mean, you already do have a library, but it's on my way. Yeah. No, and scale... Yeah, the panther's big. It's definitely big. That's the only thing that's throwing me off on this one is the panther needs to be brought down to size. Well, I mean, that's something we could ask for them to do and add something. Yeah. I mean, I think it's kind of... I think it's fun in a way. We're asking that you score based on what is presented. You know, like, if you ask the artist to make a little bit... I mean... Are we talking about scoring, about making requested changes? Do I put this on? Yeah, so, I mean, that gets tricky because we don't have the artist here right now. Um, and so, I always advise to score and rank based on the concept presented in front of you. Um, because, I mean, ultimately, you could request changes, pick an artist based on those requested changes, and the artist could decline, so... Unless you're giving them an opportunity and you're not giving the other people... Yeah, and then there's, like, the question of fairness for the other artist, so... It doesn't bother me, the size, because if you look at, like, the second persons, some of their... The scale of their elements are bigger and smaller as well. Mm, yeah. Like the one bird, the one... Like, well, the turtle. Because this is more... They're going to be bigger because I... Like, they're sitting closer and, like, a little bigger. The panthers align with their... Yeah. I like the way those kids studying. That means you can study anywhere. Yeah. I have about four minutes, but we can have additional time if you need it. I'm... I'm done. I think I'm done. I'm done. Well, I'll... To the four minutes still, but just wanted to put it out there. They got plenty in North Carolina. And then we'll go down the line and see where we overlap. It would be better to do it that way, so... Okay, so they can... Yeah, we can discuss them. I know. Well, and then also the other people's works, to me, you know, in there, on the wall. Yeah. Yeah. It takes a lot of time. Yeah. You guys need more time? We don't have time. I think we're ready. Are we ready? Okay. So, I will start with you, Jamie, if you can give me your rankings for, um, first name Nick Albano. Oh, do we want to do that? I was... Or we were going to do the... I thought before the motion. But we can take it now. I'm fine with that. Okay. All right. Public comment? We can do that. Any members of the public wish to speak? Thank you. When you say public, I think of patrons, and I work for the library. So, hi. My name is Lacey Latour-Gudine. I'm the library projects manager for the Martin County Library System, and this is Sarah Steele. She works at the Hope Sound Public Library. Um, we wanted to come and just give kind of maybe the library's two cents and where we see how this mural fits in with our outdoor space. So, this mural is part of a larger project for us. We have an outdoor space going behind the Hope Sound Library between the library building and the nature preserve that's behind us. We've done a lot of work getting the nature preserve cleaned up and the invasive species out. And the mural itself, we were really hoping to reflect Hope Sound's natural ecosystem, um, both natural Florida fauna and plants and animals, um, as well as the love for reading because librarians, we do enjoy our books. Um, it's also going to be a part with our 3D printed book benches from Pantera, which I believe they're here and may come up to speak afterwards. So, we're really honing in on that book and that natural feeling. In our opinion, Muralist 2 is what kind of fits that scope for us the most, that very natural look, um, following really what is around us in that, in that ecosystem. And I do want to let Sarah speak for a minute. Yeah, I agree. I think Mural 2 is a great reflection of what is around there. It's almost going to feel like you're just surrounded by that natural environment and like a fun place to read. Um, you know, that, that pine scrub that's very endangered and not around a lot in places. Number two, really showcases that environment. That's it. Thank you so much. Great. Thanks for your comments. That's a help. Awesome. Okay. Well, I will start with you, Jamie, for Nick Albano. So, for Nick, I have him at second. The scale of the panther was just a little too large for me. Um, Nathan, um, Della Sois, Della Nois, uh, whatever, however I apologize. Della Nois. Um, I have, um, him at first. I do like that, that 3D effect. I love the diversity in the, in the kids. And I love the theme of the reading and learning. Um, and then I do have Daniela at third. Um, the skunk threw me off and, um, and then I do wish the kids were in color. Okay. And Sadia, how did you rank Nick Albano? Uh, number one for me. Okay. The only thing, a little bit, as I told you, the panther, if he could just put it a little bit. Okay. And then for Nathan? Nathan is number three for me. Okay. And then that. Because I was thinking of the windows in the library. Yeah. It's 3D. It's beautiful, but it's not like just solid wall. So you have to. And number two is, uh, Sanchez Vegas. Yes. And Cindy, how did you rank Nick? Um, number one. Okay. I can't agree with Sadia. Panther smaller would be great, but I, I just like the simplicity, the colors, the, the native plants, the way it looks. Um. And then for Nathan? Nathan, I put that in third. Um, cause I just think the scale is not, I'm having a real hard time visualizing the scale on that and what that would look like. And then the other one is number two. And I agree. The skunk. It's like, okay. And Bert, how did you rank Nick? I had Nick two. Okay. And then Nathan? One. Okay. And then Daniela is third. So we're two. Okay. You're going to have to angle this one, figure this one out. Yeah. We need a tiebreaker. So, yeah, we'd like to have it as just one this time, Jamie. And I know this sounds a little weird, but the reason the scale was off for me is I think about kids sitting there and reading, would that freak them out? With a big fan. So. Um, I'll just make a comment, um, for everyone. I, it's, so what do we have here? Two to two, basically? Okay. So we need to break that tie. Um, you might want to take the public comment into consideration. That's true. Um, you certainly, now that you're a two to two, you can go back and rescore. If there's anything else that is in your heads, you know, that you're feeling, uh, you can change your score. This is certainly would be the opportunity to do that before a motion is made. Um, you can also continue to discuss. We really would like to send one to the board. Um, I think that that makes everybody's life easier and certainly stay, it keeps us a little bit on deadline, which we'd really like to stay on. Um, in the meantime, if you like, we can have Justin come up and talk about the book bench and then you can go back to that. How about that? We'll give you a little break. Sounds good. All right. Justin, you're on. All right. Good evening. Uh, my name's Justin again. We did the book benches for the library. I think I was up here addressing you folks, I don't know, months and months ago. Um, so I'm just presenting an update. So the book benches have been printed. Um, they're all printed in six components that get pieced together and then there's a faux wood topper that creates the book covers. So those we're still waiting on. We're expecting those pretty much any day now. And that, um, leads to an anticipated installation date is pretty much as soon as the library is ready for us to do so. I hope to do it this year. Um, and then as far as the actual printing experience, we opened it up and we had library officials and some county folks come out. So it was a really nice event for people to come and see how it was produced. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that was also a nice surprise. So the county photographer came out and I hope you get to see the video because it was a fun thing to do. And I'm just really here today to answer any questions or just be a resource. So that's pretty much it. Excited to see them come to life for sure. Great to talk. I think the scrubs really well represented in number two. I think I agreed that I agreed with the, um, young ladies from the library. Um, so I'm just giving you a little bit more, a couple more thoughts from me. Um, when she was talking about this one, no, number two, the next one underneath that one. Yeah. The only thing feels a little dark to me. Yeah. Dark in color. Yeah. Just dark. Um, I don't know why it just feels dark. You barely can see the, the bird in here. Yeah. There is no screw. Oh yeah. There's, there's the J, the, uh, woodpecker. I tend to lean on those who are usually there for, you know, the input and everything because you guys, you guys know your population and who comes and things like that. So, um, um, I'm personally, like I mentioned, the, the, the largeness of the Panther, I think could be a little scary to some kids. Um, so this, that's why I mentioned the scale of it. Um, I do like the diversity in the second one. You do have a mix of races here. Um, and I think the third one, we all ranked a little differently, so I don't think that's an issue. Um, I guess where I could see where you would mean the darkness because she's on a log or tree trunk. It's got dark tones to it. I know. It's just got dark tones to it. And you barely can see the bird close to it. It's hard. The Panther, he could minimize it. So what we'll have to do is go through each criteria for each one and you'll have to say your, why you, you know, to see if any of that changes in order to move it along unless anybody wants to change it now. And we can do that. There's only three. I don't know. Um, are all of you also looking at the work that they've done? Yes. You have that? Okay, good. Yeah. Because that should also give you an excellent idea of the capabilities and the final project, you know, what you're going to end up with. Well, I think that's why I went with, partly why I went with number two, because there were quite a few mural walls in that person's history. Whereas the first one, there was the one mural in the room, looks like a chemistry room or something, which was well done and matches the, the quality of the, uh, initial, uh, hope sound one. But the other, uh, items that, that is that Nick? First one's Nick. Yes. Yeah. The first one, he, the other items are, you know, just isolated pieces. The rose, the guy with the, the boy with the crown and, uh, David at the end with the flowers around it. They're, they're kind of out of context for me. And the, the second one, it shows the, you know, it's a brick wall, you know, that's, that's, that's a painting on the brick wall. And then the other long one and the, the, uh, uh, cat that's, you know, growling, um, and then, you know, the other one as well. I don't know. I guess I just like that there's some consistency in that all those murals are on walls and they aren't isolated pieces. And it's not that the, the, uh, the Panther doesn't bother me so much, maybe that the kids are kind of small and some of the other elements are smaller and the Panther takes up basically, let's see, that's almost a quarter of the whole wall if you kind of gauge it. Um, and we're talking about Hope Sound and scrub, uh, and from Hope Sound. Just a question. Why? Just curious. There are no Panthers there. I can tell you that. I don't think I've ever seen a Panther there. You know, so, uh, Hope Sound library is next door to our church. So, I, I don't know. That was just a couple more thoughts since we're on a tiebreaker. I like the diversity too. I think that's, I agree with, I agree with Jamie. The first guys are two, two little blonde kids. Maybe not. I can't really tell. The one girl is, they, they, I should be using they. Yeah, I suppose. So. All right. How do we want to go? We're going to have to go through each one and listen to your score for each criteria for each one and then discuss it. That we have to break our tie, I think. Do I have a criteria page where I'm supposed to? Well, it was on the, I can pull it up here. Yeah, you were supposed to attach numbers. I was supposed to. Oh, well, I didn't have the numbers attached in that. Oh. I had it as a ranking system. Oh, oh, okay. This is all part of the discussion, though, is, you know, you can rank based on resume, based on past work experience, statement of interest. Yeah, I looked at the resume. I looked at the past experience. I looked at the current project. So, am I supposed to, I don't know what I'm. You're going to make one. I don't know. What are the categories that we need to score? They're up on the screen now. Artistic quality and concept. Artistic experience. Community and cultural resonance, which I think is important. That got 20 points. That's the third most important thing, is that it's relevant to the neighborhood and the site and what that site is looking for. You know, these are the top three. Their proposal execution and their statement of interest were all, I'm sure they got full points for those. So, I don't know that we really need to go through that. I think the other three are the ones that are the more important. So, if you guys want to discuss any more, is there anything else you might want to say? Why don't we just go? Oh, and that's one. Close your eyes. Like we do with the kids. Because you seem like Cindy and I, we have the same taste. Well, these are. That's tough. Professionals, so. Well, professionals, they can bring the leper a little bit smaller. The panter. That's all I got. So, what do you want us to do? Points. Do it by points. Yeah, we can do it by points. I think you're going to come out the same result. Well, let's do it anyway. I think that that's the only other possibility we have right now of breaking the tie. So, if each one of you wants to just do the first three, we'll give them the 15 because I think that that's probably a given. So, if you each want to score each one of the three on the first three, 30 points, 35 points, 20 points, remembering all of the discussion that we've had, and then you can discuss further if you'd like, that's fine, too. So, off you go. All right. Give us a few minutes. Yes. Like, 10 minutes? Five. Yeah. Five. Okay. Whatever you need. Wait, that's it. We're scoring just the first three. Yes. Criteria. Well, you still want me to read your scores, but you still have to. Yeah. Yeah. No. We're tag teaming. Okay. I have another minute on my timer. We can, if you need more time, just let me know. I just, the last thing I wanted to say is I'm always very drawn to anything that incorporates a multicultural experience for people. And so, I can say when I looked at all three, that did stand out to me, because we do have a multicultural population in Hope Sound. So, that's the last little bit I'm going to say about that. Thank you. And I want to add one thing to, not only that, but, well, we can add them up first. But I do have a reason for the number artist experience. If you look at Nate's experience, he's got, like, 50 murals that he's done, and the first guy lists, he only lists a handful, or at least, you know, that's what he lists on his paper, and that's all we can go by. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. So. That was the girl. She had a lot of it. Did she have a lot? Yeah. Mm-hmm. She had a lot. Actually, from what I've been researching on this Nick guy, he's only been, from what I can tell, in the past four or five years. Doing murals? Mm-hmm. Between going on his website and reading through what he's done and looking at his timeline, where the other two have significant experience. So, it's hard to give the maximum number of points for that criteria. I think what's my first choice. I see the exhibitions on the last artist, but I don't see mural, private art, international commissions. Yeah, on the third one, do you see mural? I see exhibitions. Are we about ready to list off our scoring? I think so. You guys ready? Cindy? Mm-hmm. Okay. So, Jamie. This is how I have it written down. Um, for Nick, how did you score his artistic quality and concept out of 30 points? 25. Okay. And for experience? 25. And for community and cultural resonance? 20. Okay. For Nathan? 30, 35, 20. And then Daniela? Mm-hmm. 20, 20, and 20. Okay. Sadia, how did you score Nathan, or I'm sorry, Nick, on concept and artistic? Artistic quality? 30. 30 points. And in experience? 30. Okay. And in community and cultural resonance? About 20. For Nathan, for the concept and artistic quality? 20. Okay. For experience? 30. And for community and cultural resonance? 35. He's got a lot. Well, that's out of 20 points. Oh, that's one of 20 points? Mm-hmm. I'll go 18. Okay. Those are 20. And then for Daniela, for the concept and artistic quality? 25. Okay. For experience? 20. Out of the 35 points, you're giving her 20? Mm-hmm. And then for community and cultural resonance, out of 20 points? I'm giving her 20. All right. Cindy, for Nick, for artistic quality and concept, 30 points? 25. 25? For experience? 20. And then for community and cultural resonance? 20. Okay. For Nathan, concept and quality? 23. Three. For experience? 30. For community and cultural resonance? 20. Okay. And then for Daniela Sanchez? 23. 23 for the quality and concept? And then for experience? 30. 30. And 18? Thank you. And Bert. Starting off with Nick in concept and quality? 30. 30. Experience? 30. And community and cultural resonance? 20. 20. Okay. For Nathan's? 30. 30. Experience? 35 and 20. Okay. And then for Daniela's? 25. For the quality concept? Yep. Okay. 30 and 20. So? 75 for her. You going by total? Yeah. I mean, I should probably add that up. So let me do that. Quick minute for me. I love calculators and phones. But most of this was in one of the numbers. She has hers. Almost there. So Jamie, it looks like Nathan was your top artist at 85 points total. Sadia, your top artist was Nick Albano, so the Panther, at 80. Cindy, your top artist was Nathan at 73. So this one. And then, Bert, your top artist was also Nathan. So it looks like a three to four for Nathan. And we'll need a motion. Do you want to make a motion? So moved. Any comments? All in favor? Anybody opposed? What? No, well, we did that in the beginning part of the meeting where we were moving forward with reviewing staff's recommendation. Oh, review. Yeah. And now you're making a recommendation to. Yep. No, you're good. You said Nate had three out of the four. Nathan had three out of the four, yes, based on this second round of scoring. And that was what the motion was. Yes. The agreement. I would move to recommend that Nathan to the Board of County Commissioners as the artist for this project. And everybody's clear on that, right? So we're good. All right. That was hard. Who was first? Who motioned first? Zidia. Zidia seconded. All those in favor? Aye. Everybody. Okay. Yay. More time. Who did second? It had taken us a while to get there, but once we got there. Well, adding the numbers up did make a difference. Well, you know, and again, the only thing that really switched me was the experience part. Yeah. I still don't particularly care for this rendering. I still think it's too dark. But, you know, maybe it'll be a little different. Don't know. Yeah. I think he'll fit it. I think he'll stretch it and fit it, and maybe there'll be more scrubbed right and left. You know, it's not going to be exactly like this anyway, right? You know, they're going to adapt it to be fit on the wall. There'll be a window in the middle of somebody's leg or something. I mean, for future reference, it'd be great if they could superimpose it like that one artist did. Like, you know? Some artists do, some don't. We even had a few people interested that they, you know, would charge to even have a concept. So you have all different types of artists. You know, she was working extremely high level professionally, and she's like, I can't give concepts to three. So it's... That's not uncommon. It's not exactly. So I'd imagine that this will, given his experience, fit how it needs to on this wall. So exciting. Awesome. Yeah. Great. All right. All right. So we've still got something else to do, don't we? We do. We're on to Arts Fest. Arts Fest. Okay. So since 2018, Art and Public Places has been partnering with Martin Arts to do and support Arts Fest. This year will be on February 7th and 8th. Just like we've done in previous years, we'll have a tent, engage with the community, talk about Art and Public Places, our mission, our inventory, what people would like to see as we continue to grow the program. Our idea this year was that we would have a fun little, like, heat press station at our booth. So with that, folks could make their own, like, custom tote bags or shirts. And the idea was to have it with our logo, and then maybe we would select whatever lent itself best from our inventory to, like, hot press onto that tote or shirt. So we thought that would be a lot of fun. Nancy Turrell is here. If you wanted to say anything in specific to Arts Fest, special things that were happening. I think this is a great idea. I think it brings a lot of different things together with getting people familiar with some of the art and public places that are out there. They get something to take home from Arts Fest. I mean, I think it's a win-win-win across all fronts. And we're happy to have you be very visible and up front as part of Arts Fest. It's the community's largest celebration of the arts. And so it really makes a lot of sense that art and public places is there. We are working with a partner to bring kind of an event within an event this year at Arts Fest. So there will be the, we are introducing the art of food and wine. As most of you have known, because you've been around a while, we've had the Chopped competition for over 10 years. So we are now also doing this special tasting event with food and wine pairings inside a gated, ticketed, up-priced area to continue to try to bring some additional private revenues in. For us, we're half of the partnership. And then the Treasure Coast Charity Wine Fest is the other half. And they will be spending the dollars that we raise on supporting the hospitality industry really focused on families and mental health. So I think it's a great future partnership as we continue to grow and deepen the people that are coming to Arts Fest. You know, we want people who enjoy good food and good wine to come because they have pockets that also, they should also be buying and looking at art and being part of this community. So I think it's a great new way to bring Arts Fest to the community and make it stand out. And obviously, if you have any questions, I'm happy. We've got a couple of vendors we're talking to about who can do this work. So literally, if we have more than one image, they can pick which image they want. I think that's a great... We like tote bags because they don't have sizes like t-shirts do. And you can put art inside of the tote bags. Right. Or your groceries. Purchases inside their bag. I like the tote bag because when I traveled with six people, we were, and I did the picture of where we traveling just like that. And oh, everybody was admiring it. It's really nice. And we're carrying stuff in it and all that. Great. Great ideas. Will you be doing a... Elise, will you be doing a survey again? I think you did a survey last year. Yeah. No, I think it's good. We actually, we have all the signage still for the survey, but I do think having a new survey specific at ArtsFest... For this year, because it changes and people change and it's worth getting an update. Mm-hmm. I think that's a good idea. And with all these new projects that are coming on. Yeah. You know, I mean, I think there's a lot building the excitement for all of them. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, with the windy sculpture and, you know, different things. Yeah. Absolutely. Good. Cool. So I'm just requesting then that the PAC approve our activities at ArtsFest 2026 this year or next year. Anybody want to make a motion? Make a motion. To approve the package for this year? Mm-hmm. Yeah, just our activities at ArtsFest. Okay. Cool. And we've already budgeted for it. Mm-hmm. Yep. Second. Nice. Oh, okay. Any other comments? All in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? Nobody opposed. Great. Yay. Wonderful. All right. And then you got an old business program project updates? Okay. So Justin was here, so he gave all the updates about our 3D printed benches. Super excited. I'm hoping soon we'll have the little video that we did with MCTV. I thought it was such a great opportunity for the community to learn the kind of STEM and art and science behind it. So that'll be really exciting to get out there. Windy Day. So our palm tree sculpture from Jillian Mark. It did arrive at the end of October. Unfortunately, there was a little bit of damage to it while it was coming from Australia. But I'm in process of working directly with the artist to figure out best, quickest ways to make those repairs, you know. So, and in addition to that, we do want to have a structural engineer involved because of the nature of it being over seven feet and 800 pounds. We want to make sure it's safe when it's out. So that's a little time consuming, but that's protocol. And so sooner than later, we'll have it installed in our big party. But as we work through that with the artist and the structural engineer, it's safely in a warehouse right now. Second or thirdly, I just wanted to show Jim Dirks, who did our glass mosaic, installed it two weeks ago. It's absolutely beautiful. Let me show you. Yeah, at the Manatee Pocket Mooring Field facility. So, drum roll. So that was installed. It's so beautiful in person. Well, I got to track down what we want to, he wants to call it. But yes, I wanted to, so if you get a chance and you're in Salerno to go see it in person, it really is beautiful. I was by there, I don't know, Wednesday or something. It looked good. It looked really good. And it's neat. Like the mooring balls, actually, they come out from the piece. And some of the eyeballs, too, it has a little bit of a reedy depth to it. So we're really excited about that. I don't like how the lines come off the steering, what do you call that? I like the fish. Yeah, the fish. Yeah, it looks beautiful. And it really matches and complements the building nicely with all the blue tones. And it's nice to see it in color, right? So. Oh, is this the one he did in black and white? Mm-hmm. Yes. The one was in black and white. That's why I kept driving by. I'm like, I need to see this in color. Yeah. The only thing is, is cars typically park in front of it. So, because that's all part of a larger project, right, Susan, with getting the street done and everything else, we did ask with our public works to put a barricade for now in front of it to keep it safe. So what's going to happen is that in front of this will be some land and then there will be a sidewalk and a curb and a newly paved road. So they will, I mean, is it possible to jump a curb and hit stuff? Sure, but less probable. So we'll do the best we can to make it as safe as possible. Yeah, now it, you know, we have this beautiful artwork and we have these, like, I don't even know what you call them. What do you call them? Bollards? Are they bollards? They're like that, except they're the traffic ones. They're temporary, yeah. But at least it keeps on them. You know, the orange ones, they're so pretty. Barricades, that's the word I was looking for. Thank you. Yes, appreciate that. Anyway. Awesome. What else you got? That was it for me. Great work. What else do we have? Do we have any other sections here? We've got public comments, member comments. Anybody from the public want to say anything else? Any members want to say anything else? I just want to say thanks for putting up with the old, the whole voting and getting through the mural thing. I'm going home. Yeah. Yeah, so thanks. Any staff comments? All right. We're adjourned. Thank you.