For the 25th Public Art Advisory Committee, to order, please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which I stand, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Next up is approval of the minutes. Everyone has a copy. Any questions? Make a motion to approve. Motion and a second. Any changes, comments, anything? None. All in favor of approval say aye. Any opposed? Where'd she go? Unanimously. Stop moving, Naomi. Anyone have any conflicts of interest with today's agenda? Comment section. We're up to public comment. I'm looking at the four people here. They seem to know the rules. We won't go over the rules just yet. If you get out of line, we'll let you know. Old Business Arts and Public Places Maintenance Updates, Ms. Susan Kores. Actually, I'm turning this over to Naomi Felix. All right. Naomi Felix, Community Development Specialist. I'm here to present to you all the maintenance updates. All right. So first, we start off with Live Learn Loggerhead over at Hope Sound. The sign has been installed. So it looks pretty good. You can see a before and after on your left here. And the artist, Mia Lindbergh, is also restoring the site. She'll be adding a seal of fresco to the wall. She also will be refurbishing the turtle hatchlings on that site. So we're working with her to get that done. Along with that, we're going to be doing a site visit with the Town of Jupiter Island Arts Committee. I don't want to butcher her last name, but April Trubourg. About mid-October, we're going to work on, not work on, but we're going to try to discuss some ideas for art programs, camps. Also looking into replacing the small signs that are on site. They're fading away. So we're trying to bring it back to life a little bit. It'll be nice. That'll be a nice continuation of that partnership. In case you guys didn't know, Town of Jupiter Island Arts Committee was part of the original group that put this particular exhibit together. Oh, nice. So, yeah, so they're coming back into the picture, and they want to do some educational stuff at the site, and like Naomi said, help us replace some of the fading out items. All right. So second here, we have Manatee Pocket Gateway over in Port Salerno. I did open that PO for the bench repairs. The PO has been issued. Our repairs are in process. There was some materials, special materials that need to be ordered. So those materials have arrived. And I've spoken with Mia. She's looking at having it scheduled out early October for all the repairs to be made. So afterwards, we'll also have Public Works Department power wash the pavers before the installation of the pelicans. So that is to be scheduled the end of October with the Public Works Department. And third, we'll have the pelican installation. So we're looking at maybe having some sort of event at the end of fall. So we're exploring some ideas of what we can do with the community to get them involved as well. All right. We have Sailfish Splash Sea Life Murals over in the – I'm sorry, over at Sailfish Splash. Parks and Recreation – the Parks and Recreation Department will be making repairs to the wall – cracks on the walls. There's a few over there that need to be repaired. We did get an estimate of $5,641 and some change to get those repaired. It looks like it's going to be for the fiscal year 2024. We're also going to be reaching out to the artists to have them freshen up the murals too. So it looks – so it can, again, bring it back to life. And with that, does anyone have any questions? Nope. All right. Is that a question coming? You were going to do it? You were going to say no one's taking that budget away from us or not? Apparently not, right? Just quickly, I mean, I think it will be important to make sure that when they're doing the power washing of the pavers that they realize those benches have just been restored and they have to be a little ginger around them so they don't blow away that. Yeah. Make sure. And then that's the way we were told that it had to be. Like Mia said, you know, you have to do it this way and do the paver second because there'll be material that – the dirt that comes off of that. So we were like, okay. But, yes, you're exactly right. Okay. Any other questions? Thank you. AIPP signs for the Port Salerno Gateway Pelican Project. Oh, I think that's me. Okay, so Susan Cora's Office of Community Development, Art and Public Places. So we've been working on what the signage is going to say for the Pelican exhibit. Again, briefly, we'll have two signs. One is going to focus on the Port Salerno community, Manatee Pocket area, and the other one is going to focus on just some fun Pelican facts. So I went ahead and, as you recall, I drafted two separate documents. I then circulated that to you and to the Neighborhood Advisory Committee. I did get some feedback from several members of the NAC, and Julie – actually, Julie Priest gave us some information, and Lloyd Jones. Thank you. So you'd think that would be the last name that you would forget, right, Jones? Lloyd Jones also weighed in a little bit, so we've had a lot of input, and I went ahead and used all of that to come up with what I'm hoping will be very close to our final. And I circulated that to all of you to take a look at. I don't think that I need to read it unless you would like me to. But if you had any additional comments – the one thing that I'm not sure of, like I said, this should be very close to the final is that we don't know yet the exact size. We think they're going to be 12 by 18, and I don't know yet the exact material, and that will make a difference as well as to how many words you can really put on that. So it may be a little bit less than what you see now, but this is pretty much an amalgam of everybody's thoughts. Everybody didn't get everything they wanted, but everybody got a little something. Pelican facts and Porzellano history. So you're saying there is a compromise? Of course. It's democracy. Maybe that's a word we should keep in mind. That's a very important word here today. Yes. Cool. Any questions? So if you guys have anything to add and or subtract or you think it's fine and they'll make beautiful signs, that would be great too. I don't need really emotion either way, just to let you know that we're closing in on the end here. The residents are happy. Last chance for input. I'm happy. That's great. Did Catherine just say she was happy? I said if the residents are happy, then I'm happy. Well, I'll be taking it to the NAC on October 12th to get their final yes. And hopefully we'll have, I mean, by then we actually may have a little bit more information as to size and all of that stuff. Okay. Any other questions? All right. New business, which is same as old business, Porzellano Pelicans. Second amendment to agreement for art services. We have like pelican hats made, like, you know, in honor of Jimmy Buffett, parrot heads. We should do pelican heads. I think that would work out really well. I think it would go over very big, actually. Can we change our name? Maybe we can make some money. My favorite line in this is they incubate their eggs with the skin of their feet. Like, how sweet is that? I guess. Sweet is the word I have to say. I'm not sure sweet would have been the adjective I would use. The things we learn at Art in Public Places. Okay. So this one here is Porzellano Pelicans. So we are bringing to you all the second amendment for the pelicans. It's just a time extension. Everything is still the same scope of services. It's going from October to December of 2023. So the end of this year. So it's just a couple more months to allow Mia Lindberg, the artist, to complete the project. So what I need from the committee is to motion, and I can get the amendment routed for signatures. I make a motion. I second. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor of approval, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? None. Fantastic. We all have dinner reservations or something? Stewart Gazebo Park by Naomi Felix. All right. Again, Naomi Felix, Community Development Specialist. I'm here to present to you all the Stewart Gazebo Park. Some options. So before we get to the options, I do want to give you a summary, a brief summary of how it all started with the gazebo art pieces. So back in September of 2025, pieces were installed over at the Stewart Gazebo Park. That includes the transponder, tumbling toward the sun, yap money stones, silent sounds of service, and the red angle. Since then, there has been two maintenances, one in 2022, which was the AIPP signage for each of the art pieces for $450. Earlier this year, we spent $2,900 restoring for all five pieces. All five pieces were the restoration includes cleaning, giving it a little bit of life, bringing it back to life. We are also looking into doing a second meet for this year towards the tumbling towards the sun and a transponder. There were some rest issues I brought to you a couple. The last committee, I'm sorry, the last meeting, Mia Lindbergh said she's going to look into it. She was going to send a proposal. I haven't received it yet, but she did say it was looking at $2,000 for both pieces instead of the $14,000 per piece. So it will be a little bit less expensive. A lot less. So, yeah. So, yeah. So we're going to move forward with her. I just need to work on, like, when. She does have a lot on her plate right now. Great question. Mm-hmm. Okay. Hi, Catherine. Hi. These pieces, which are very cool and lovely, seem to have an awful lot of maintenance. Like, sometimes, some things we don't have to worry about for five years, ten years. This was, like, every year. What's going on with these? Is it the material? Is it the, what? Were they in bad shape when we got them? So, let us not, let's remember that they were very inexpensive. Yeah. I would not say that they were in bad shape when we got them, but they were old. I think the maintenance on these is really not as much as that it's, hmm. So, a couple of things. Red angle needed to be repaired other than the paint and the rust. And also, the money stones needed to be repaired because I don't know if someone sat on it or kicked it or drove over it. I don't know what they did. So, there was, some of the money did go to actual repairs and not just the refurbish of the materials themselves in that 2900. We then received a notice that they were deteriorating. Those two specific metal ones were not doing well. So, that's when we went out to see what that might cost us and got the atomic carrots proposal for $14,000, which everybody said, yeah, that's, we're not doing that. So, and I think Naomi was probably going to touch on this, is she's bringing you in this presentation some future possibilities for Gazebo Park. Because I think Gazebo Park is a great place for us to be. It's really visible. It's nice. It's a beautiful place. I think we just need to figure out what we need to do. And in the meantime, I would like to keep the pieces looking as nice as possible because I don't want the City of Stewart to kick us out either. So, remember that we also have to deal with the City of Stewart on this one. And I don't mean deal with them in a negative way, but get their approval and permission for what goes in the park as well. Can I ask a question? These pieces, and I know it's going to be a dumb question, but these pieces, are they like meant to be in outdoor Florida saltwater weather? Yes. Okay. They're all public art pieces, yeah. No, I know, but I'm just, I mean, you know, I don't recall where they came from. I think it was over on the, was it the West Coast? It was Barefoot Bay. Okay, that's Melbourne. Okay. Yeah. All right. I'm just wondering because, you know, sometimes we might get art donated to us that is great in some other environment, but not necessarily ours. Right. And so is, would it be fiscally responsible for us to maybe move them to an indoor setting where they won't face the elements? And that's a possibility. I mean, anything else that we decide will go there. These will be removed, and we will have to find homes for them. Okay. I'm just. I was thinking my yard would be a great spot. No, I'm teasing. So, yeah, we're going to have to do that. So, indoors may be a better idea at that point. Okay. Naomi, she's all yours. Okay. So, again, this is just to touch on the maintenance for both pieces. Mia proposed the estimate would include both sculptures resurfacing and or spot checking and restoring the rusted areas. All right. So, here's the fun part. Some options. So, I did some exploring. I did two types of categories, which is purchase new pieces. Gilay and Mark, I think Susan had brought to the committee earlier this year. They had the dog man and bunny girl. Rabbit woman. Yeah. Bunny woman. Bunny woman. Bunny girl. Whatever she's called. 3D printing. We did get a tour with a printed patio. They had some cool. They gave us a tour of how the planters were printed through some kind of ceramic woven way. It was really neat. Oh, I have a picture right here at the bottom. This is from their website here. Those are a few things. They make a ton of stuff. Yeah. So, it just doesn't have to be planters. It can be sculptures with them. We can also purchase large abstract sculptures from another artist. We can look into getting kinetic art as well. The city of Boynton Beach does have a big kinetic art program. So, it was really neat looking at their website with all their art pieces. And I can always reach out to them and find out who, if they have a specific list of artists that I can, you know, get in touch with. So, the second option is temporary art exhibits. I think Rich did bring that up at the last meeting about maybe reaching out to third-party companies. I did see Los Trompos, the top right picture there. They were at the city of West Palm Beach at their big, big open space that they have there. And it was pretty cool. It has a lot of, got caught a lot of attention from the public. So, I can always reach. I did actually send out an email asking if they still are traveling, going to cities, if we can get on their list by any chance. And also, another option is also get the community involved and do a call to artists. See if any, if we have an idea or we can have them come up with an idea to display artwork. So, with that, I'll leave it to you to discuss to see if, give you any inspiration of what we can move forward with. Yes, sir. Go ahead. You're talking about this 3D printing. You know, we have someone in Stewart that does that. I think that's who they went to. Printed Patio. That's who you went to. Yep. It is. You should get a tour of their, it's a small place, but oh my gosh, it is so interesting. It's pretty impressive. How long were we there? We were there like two hours. Yeah. Did you break anything? Because I did. Did you? How could you? That stuff is so heavy. No, they just printed a pot for a show they were going to and it was like just done in front of me. And they're like, look, see how sturdy it was? And I grabbed the top of it and pulled it off. I handed it to him. So you have to wait until it hardens. Then it's really strong. Good tip. Thank you. Thank you, Mike. But they are very impressive what they do in there. And I think it would be cool to have something, you know, they are local. It's kind of a new, you know, art form. So it would be kind of cool to have something like that. Not a pot, but, you know, something like that out in that area. The Los Trampos, is that like a weekend thing or is that there for? So I think it varies. I was looking at their website. They have a permanent, they're permanently right now. I think it's in California somewhere at a children's museum. But I don't know if they're going to pick up. Usually you pay for a particular amount of time, six months. You know, they do, the companies themselves will do, or these third parties do the installation and pick them up and that kind of thing. Um, we also have a really, uh, strong connection to, um, some other abstract sculptures done by a guy named David Hayes. Very, uh, famous in that area. Uh, originally from Connecticut and that's where his studio was. However, they've got a, a real Florida connection as well. So we did those in West Palm Beach. I can easily reach out to, to Mr. Hayes and see if anybody would be interested in that. And in, in the city of West Palm, we put them throughout, I think we had 13 all together and we put them throughout the Northwood area. And we had them there for two years and it was a fairly good deal. And, uh, his son, John Hayes, um, did the installation and repairs when they needed them and took them down. So it's just, you know, it's sort of an interesting, once we kind of get in the swing of finding these folks and these different exhibits. I don't know if you guys have seen things like the umbrellas and Coral Gables. You look up a year on Miracle Mile, you look up, it's just all umbrellas looks like they're just hanging in the sky. I, I have no idea how they did that, but it was there probably, you know, six months or three months, whatever it was. And, and it's, so we would need to get kind of in the swing of, uh, getting on those types of deals and doing temporary after temporary, if that's what we chose to do. Because that's such a highlight area for us. I think it would be interesting and it would, because it would change, people would keep seeing our, you know, art in public places. Oh, that's going on and they'll have ideas too. So that's why it's not, um, it's not inexpensive, but I think when you look at all of the options for it, I mean, I think it's a great way for us to, uh, use our funding because we're constantly getting something new and fresh and we're not having to maintain it. So there's that, you know, is, is a definite plus. And then you get all of this new stuff and keep it fresh and interesting. So there's another company called turning art that does, um, programs. Great. Thank you. Yeah. They seem to focus more on corporate, but I don't know. You know, it's worth talking to them and see what they do. Right. And this Gillian mark also does temporary. So that's, uh, you know, we're trying to find different places that do that, but again, it's not inexpensive, but I think it's a very impactful. So would, would the Gesco sculptures have any value? Like have we auctioned them or tried to find a way to- You know, that's, that's an extremely interesting thing because we made sure that in the contract that we had with him, that we put in the fact that we are in, and in our own LDRs that we can auction anything that we have. So just, I know. Who thought of that? I think Elizabeth Lenahan, um, so that we, you know, we, we're not holding on to things that perhaps have kind of passed us by. We don't, we don't need to keep anymore. So yes, we can do that. Um, or we can find them new homes, any place in the County. So, you know, perhaps, uh, a park or, um, you know, a library or somebody might like to have a fire station. I don't know, might like to have a piece of artwork, you know, another public building. Um, and we could install it there. I mean, it almost sounds like they'd be better off indoor somewhere, despite the fact that they were intended to be outdoors. You don't really know. I mean, certainly we could, you know, for, we could look for indoor space as well. Yeah. Any other comments, ideas, questions? Go ahead. Well, um, will you be able to come back to us with like, you know, actual proposals and budgets and stuff like that? So we can, you know, okay, what's the cost of the temporary versus what's the cost of keeping what we've got or buying new and maintenance costs going forward? And that kind of sort of thing, I think would help us come up with a good pathway to get to. We will try to do that. It's not so easy. No. I know. These things are not so easy to find and it always depends on where they are and what delivery and installation is. But yes, that's exactly what we're working on. Okay. Naomi's been working on that. Okay. Okay. Anything else? Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to public comments for any of the public who are still awake. Julie Priest. Obviously, because we have these budget concerns, my head is trying to figure out how do we get money? We have two projects, two roundabouts coming in Rio where we don't have enough money for that public art. I don't know if we've made any changes to the last time you gave a report. So I'm wondering if we should consider a program to attract philanthropists and naming as they did the sailfish on Joan Jefferson Way. The gentleman donated that sailfish and he's got a plaque there, but he paid for it. I don't know if he paid for installation, but what I'm suggesting is we develop a program that gives wealthy individuals an opportunity to contribute towards public art. I'm sure there are communities and cities that already have something. I say don't recreate the wheel. Do a little homework. Find out how other probably larger towns do it so that we have that other tool available to attract money. Thank you. Thank you. I do. Any other public comment? Yes, ma'am. This is my first meeting in Martin County. Oh, well, welcome. Welcome, Heather. Thank you. I'm Heather Weiss. I'm a local artist. I live in Hope Sound and I have about 30 years experience in fine arts, theater arts, scenic art, like kind of across the board, and also nonprofit arts organizations. So I've been raising my family for 10 years, so now I'm kind of trying to get back into the groove here and see. And I just finished a project at the Coastal Center as well. So I had a question regarding the murals at the Selfish Splash Park. The budget on that said $5,000-something. Is that only for stucco? What is the mural budget? Oh, so we have a mural program in our art and public places, and that is for murals to be painted anywhere in the county, basically. And they can happen in different ways. So an artist could bring forward a project for a mural. Yeah, so... I guess I meant specifically, is that $5,000 number, is that for the painting and the stucco, or just... Oh, oh, oh, you're talking about the maintenance. Yeah, I meant... Oh. I'm sorry. Maybe I wasn't clear on that. Just at the one on Sailfish. Just that number specific. Is there a separate line item, I guess, for the... You said reaching out to artists. The one for Sailfish Splash. Didn't really have any information. That includes the repairs, the $5,000 that you're referring to? It's just the stucco repair. That's just the stucco repair. That does not include refurbishing the painting just to repair the wall cracks. Okay. All right. I didn't know if I was under the assumption it was where a mural was. So anyway. All right. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Come on up. You're leaving one. We're going to peer pressure her into talking. Talk to us. Exactly. Nancy Turrell, CEO of Martin Arts. Just wanted to keep your eyes out on October 12th. We'll be getting the results from our 18-month-long project to determine the economic impact of the arts in Martin County. So last we did, it was 2017. So we'll have new numbers. So that is coming soon. They've put us through a really intensive media training course. So I'm learning about, always can improve your media speaking tips. And I'll be leaving here to go to an Arts Fest committee meeting. We will be moving Arts Fest back into Memorial Park. And you all have been great partners in Arts Fest. So I want to let you know that. So back to our pre-COVID days of using the park. However, comma, the city will be reinvesting in Memorial Park. They have some ARPA dollars that need to get expended and contracted before the end of the year. They will be building a full outdoor amphitheater space on the section of Memorial, which was part of the original design plans when we envisioned what Memorial Park would look like someday. So the far western part closest to the courthouse will have an amphitheater come 2025 when Arts Fest kicks off the centennial celebration for Martin County. But we thought we were going to be able to finagle the construction schedule and still use that piece of the park, but found out last week that that's not the case. And so we're redoing our whole site plan for Arts Fest because there will be a fence around that area of the park. And so we're pushing things here and there. But the chalk art will be a big piece of what this year is and education for middle school students about the arts. So it's going to be a great event, but now we're just re-envisioning it. And we'll be bringing back our participation and what that's going to look like at our next meeting like we usually do every year in November. And I'm a big fan of temporary art installations. I think the idea that it's not there forever helps people see it because once it's there for too long, you stop seeing it. And I think Gazebo Park is a great place to have revolving exhibitions. Ocala's got a really great model for a call-to-artist component. It's not just local artists, but the call-to-artist where, you know, there's five pads and it would be five different artists in pieces. And it's basically a stipend back to the artist for bringing it in and installing it and then taking it back out at the end of the day, Ocala. And then they can sell them while they're here too, which is then potentially a commission back for Art in Public Places potentially. So that would be one idea to add to the list. Thank you. Thank you. We're down to one public who hasn't spoken. Anybody? One public. Moving on to staff. I'm sorry, members, any member comments? I'll comment it out. Staff, anything? No, just to say thank you all for your fortitude today. Much appreciated. Fortitude is not a word I was expecting to hear today. Thank you very much. We are adjourned.