Well, good morning. Welcome to Monday, August 17th, Rules Meeting. I call to order, and we'll start with introductions to my left with Mr. Dennis. Good morning. Garrett Dennis, Administration. MC, Council Research. Carla Schell, Office of General Counsel. Krista Carraher, Council Auditor's Office. Jacoby Pittman, District 10. Ron Salem, Group 2 at large. Canada Mars, City Council, District 1. Mike Gay, District 2. Terrence Freeman at large, Group 1. Good morning, Michael Boylan, District 6. Good morning, Nick Howland at large, Group 3. Randy White, District 12, District President. Welcome our visiting Council President and Council Member White. Glad to have you all here this morning. Do we have any public comment cards? All right, Mr. Nooney, as you come forward, give your name and address for the record and speak specifically to an item on our agenda. Hello. I am John Evil Knievel, Nooney, 8356, Baskin, Monroe, Jacksonville, Florida, 3-2-2-1-6. I'm in City Council, District 4. Scott Wilson, CPAC 3, Raymond Day, Jose Gonzalez, Rosemary Wiselowski, Brett James. School Board District 3, Cindy Pearson, Charter School, Public School, Boys and Girls Club, K-E-H-A Field Trip Park on Pottsburg Creek. That is brilliant. Rules Committee. Pardon Nooney. Now, I'll be addressing 2026-0574, 2026-0575. That's ethics. Anyone go into the ethics commission meeting tomorrow? 2024-0107, 2024-0325, 2026-0024, 2016-18, that's CIP, 2024-0601, the Northeast Florida, that's the NEFRC, Chris Miller, Northeast Florida Regional Colonel, 2024-0601, Ron Salem, JEA, DOGE, Northeast Florida Regional Conservative, just down to a minute 50. 2026-0604, donating three trust funds. They're right here. Okay, we've got 2026-004, okay, that is the Parks Trust Fund. And just so everyone isn't, that'll be check number 126, down to a minute 27. We've got 2026-0396, that's the movie trust fund. You know, Stand for Service, Act, Park. We're going to be making a movie on that. Agenda, please. We've got 2025. Agenda, please, Mr. Kanooni. Yeah, that's on there. 2025-0574. Okay, another one is 2025-0463, that's the Veterans Trust Fund. And so I'm just down to 50 seconds. Now, agenda item 12, 2026-0570, that's the e-bike. Now, I'm wearing my CIA, okay, cycling includes accidents. So this is a shout-out to Morgan & Morgan, Harold & Harold, Farrah & Farrah, e-bike, Amendment 3 Recreational Park on Pottsburgh Creek. And so I'm just down to 20-some seconds. You know, tomorrow, we've got the Board of County Commissioners in St. Johns County. Here is the Northeast Florida Regional Council. Agenda item 11, Potential Impacts of Property Tax Reform, Miss Payne. So anyway, thank you for allowing, or actually not having, Public Participation 2001-60. All right, thank you. The agenda that we've passed out, we've got a few little changes to it that we're going to change our order for Council President Howland. The first item that we're going to do is item number 13, 2026-0574, it's on page 7. I'll give you a second to turn there. I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Council President Howland, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that. Recall in my installation, I noted that my passion has always been around job creation, manufacturing, logistics, aerospace, space, defense, medical, marine, industries, and careers that are uniquely suited to support Jacksonville families. Thousands of jobs are coming, and not just to Cecil, which is also a passion of mine, but to the south side, to Talleyrand, to the north side. The Stand for Service Act ensures that 10% of all new jobs created in part by a city rev grant will go to veterans, guard, reserves, or active duty spouses. It's interesting to note that veterans earn more than civilians. Veterans give to charity more, and they vote more. So this is a workforce that we will always want to grow in Jacksonville. Additionally, the bill covers another thing. While we're adjusting the city's public investment policy, the bill also adds Cecil Airport alongside Jack's Port to a provision within the PIP that gives preference to companies relocating and growing there. Cecil and the port are two gems in Jacksonville, so they have unique economic development potential. All we're doing with that second part is just adding Cecil alongside the port. Both industries, marine and aerospace, defense, again, all those industries well-suited for veterans and their families. Note that we introduced the Stand for Service Act during the week of America's 250th anniversary. That's, you remember I might have said, you might have heard me in the installation, that 10% of Americans served during the Revolutionary War, and they delivered to posterity the greatest country on earth. 10% of us serve now. They defend the greatest country on earth. So the Stand for Service Act shows that Jacksonville will always stand up for its 10%. Thank you. All right. No other speakers in the queue. I would just like to add that I'm supportive of this. I feel like it goes and aligns with the way we do JSEP, the way we do local business preferences. So this is in aligns with that, that it's for any and all veterans. So I appreciate, President Howell, bringing this to us. With that, I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Open the ballot. Record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved. 2026-0574. The next item we'll go to will be item number 38 on page 20. Item number 38, 2026-0616. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Council President Howell, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And again, thanks for letting me speak on the two items that are important to me. Will Bruce is in the audience here. The outgoing member of DIA is a gentleman named Cameron Hooper. You guys may know him. Frequently, you'll see in a DIA vote, it's 6 to 1 or 5 to 2. Generally, Cameron Hooper is a dissenting voice. And it's not because he just wants a dissent. It was always because he got into the details of the spreadsheet of the business case for any development downtown. And generally had an issue with it. And if he didn't like it, he would vote no. And then he would contact many members of city council to let them know his concerns with the bill. That's exactly the kind of behavior we want to see on all city boards. It's healthy to get a no. And it's certainly healthy to get a board member who does significant analysis. So when Cameron Hooper several months ago said to me he needed to resign to focus on his career, I asked him to find someone who's like him, who understands the business cases of development in depth, who's willing to dive into each situation and make an informed vote, and willing to be the one naysayer if necessary on the board. And that is Will Bruce. I've spoken with him several times. He came highly recommended from Cameron. He's a real estate professional in town. He'll do a fantastic job on DIA, and what we always need is an analytical individual, and that's Will. So thank you. All right. Thank you, Council President Howland, for that introduction. Mr. Bruce, come on down. And if you would explain a little bit about your interest in this position. And you will be given three minutes to just give your name and address for the record. Sure. I appreciate that. Thank you, Mr. Howland. William Bruce, I work for Cushman and Wakefield, address 1762 Riverview Drive, Jacksonville, Florida, 32224. As Mr. Howland said, I work for Cushman and Wakefield. I was business partners with Cameron Hooper for three years. So when he was appointed to the board, I got to see the scope of work, the responsibilities, obviously not intimate information, but anything that was public record. And, you know, I saw I'm a lifelong resident of Jacksonville. I work downtown. I went to middle school downtown. I'm passionate about the growth of our downtown. I believe it's the final frontier for Jacksonville. The DI board is one of the governing bodies that's going to help spur economic activity, foster growth, retain and grow jobs. But we do that in a fiduciary capacity, representative of the taxpayers. So we need to better, you know, understand how these projects are being incentivized through public-private partnership. As Mr. Howland mentioned, that's my job. It's a big portion of my job is underwriting development analysis, understanding yield of, you know, yield on cost, how these developers look for incentives. And I hope to obviously be a voice for growth in Jacksonville, but in a responsible way. So looking for areas that we may be over-incentivizing projects. And like Mr. Howland said, if there's a reason that is grounded in analysis, then I'm happy to be the person that, you know, speaks out against it, representative of the city of the taxpayer. All right. Thank you. Let me go to Dr. Salem. Thank you, Chair. I echo the comments of Councilman Howland on Mr. Hooper. When I had an issue with a riverfront piece of property a year or so ago, he was a leading charge, believing what I was trying to do, and was vocal about it, and took a lot of courage to do that. Sometimes those 6-1 votes or 17-1 votes or whatever they are up here are difficult. And he never seemed to hesitate to speak his mind. And I should also mention, I should also mention, this is an appointment by the city council president to DIA. This is one of the boards that our president has an appointment, and I want to be a co-sponsor for this as well. I hope if you do anything like he did, you'll be a great appointment, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Salem. All right. No other speakers in the queue. I've got a motion and a second on it. Open the ballot and record your vote. Thank you. Seven yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve, 2026-0616. Mr. Bruce, you'll be announced after the final vote at city council on Tuesday night. You don't have to come, but if you want to come, we would gladly have you there to be there when we vote on this. The next item we're going to go to, item number 11, page 6, 2026-0569. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Council President Howland, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Kay. This is an easy one. It just mirrors what we did for today's, actually tomorrow's election day. We moved committees to the Wednesday when election day fell on a Tuesday. This will be doing for the local elections in May. One thing I wanted to note on this is, interestingly, in the month of March, this past March, we had a fifth week. We have a fifth week coming up in March as well. And a fifth week, of course, staff gets time off. We're actually looking at moving the fifth week in this upcoming March to be right in the middle of the week. Let's see. I don't have my calendar in front of me. But that, moving the fifth week instead of week five of the month, moving it to week three of the month. And the reason we're doing that is that would be consistent with Duval County Public Schools spring break and all our university spring breaks, which would then give staff time to be off while their kids are off. We're thinking about doing that. We'll discuss it a little bit. And if so, we'll probably put the bill in probably by October so it adjusts in March and people can plan. Thanks. All right. Very good. Thank you. So I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Let's open the ballot. Record your vote. Seven yays. Zero nays. By your action, you're approved. 2026-0569. All right. So this takes us back to your handout agenda. We'll start with the top of that agenda with item number 42. Mr. Chair, thank you so much. Thank you, sir. 2026-0640. I've got a motion on emergency. Can I get a second? I've got a second. Ms. Carreher on emergency. Through the chair to the committee, the nature of the emergency is to have this appointment move on the same cycle as another appointment to the same Renew Arlington Advisory Board. That's bill 2026-581. All right. No speakers in the queue on emergency. I will take this vote verbally. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Likewise, none. Emergency carries. Can I get a motion and a second on the bill as an emergency? Motion. I've got a motion and a second on the bill as an emergency. No speakers in the queue. Open. Oh, that's an appointment. I apologize. Ms. Curry, are you here? Come on down and give us a little information on the desire you have to fulfill this position. And you'll give three minutes and give your name and address for the record. Okay. Good morning. I am Janice Curry, 2150 Alfred Place, Jacksonville, Florida, 32207. I am a 37-year business owner, 28 years in Arlington. I have served on numerous boards, Norman Studios, Celebrate Arlington, and I want to be on the board because I have served my history of serving and being in business. My voice will be heard. And also being a part of what's going on in Arlington, being that I live, work, and play there, I would love to have a voice of what's going on in the community. I ride around in Arlington and see that all the revitalizations and seeing that for many, many years, the revitalization from years ago, and now it's coming into fruition, is very exciting for me to be able to serve as nominated from working with Councilmember Romero. I would love to just be a part of the board, from my experience. Thank you. Thank you. Let me go to Councilmember Romero. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Very quickly, Janice, thank you for putting yourself forward. You are indeed, in the tenure I've been here, a very passionate voice with a heart for service and a heart for the Arlington community. And I do believe that you will make a significant difference as you bring all that to the CRA board as we complete the CRA process. So thank you again for putting yourself forward. All right. Thank you. I have no other speakers in the queue, so now we'll go to the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you're approved. 2026-0640. And Ms. Curry, you can be here Tuesday night if you would like, and after the final vote, we'll recognize you to the full council. Thank you for your service. The next item we'll go to is on page 10, item number 17, 2026-0581. A motion on the bill. I've got a motion second on the bill. Mr. Bush, come on down. If you would, give a little bit about your desire to serve in this position, and you'll be given three minutes. Good morning, everybody. Brian Bush. Address is 1102 Rio St. John's Drive, Jacksonville, Florida, 32211. I represent, obviously, the Tom Bush family dealerships. I'm a fourth-generation car dealer. We've been in Jacksonville since 1970, headquartered right here in Arlington. I'm obviously a Jacksonville native. I grew up at the beach. I've been back 14 years, and I always believe in supporting the community that supports us, whether it's been on the St. John's River Ferry group or part of the Arlington Council, the Jack's Chamber. I've been a huge advocate of Arlington. I think Janice and I have been big cheerleaders on the side of Arlington and looking forward to help contribute and keep Arlington growing. All right. Thank you, sir. Let's go to Dr. Salem. Thank you, Chair. I don't know Janice as well, but do know Brian very well. He's been an advocate for Arlington through his job, through the chamber, and all sorts of things. I'm so pleased that Karen was able to recruit him to do this, and he'll be a super, super person on this board. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Let me go to Council Member Pittman. Ryan, first of all, I want to say thank you for stepping up, but I also want to say I purchased my second car from your family back in the day, and your family has always been involved in the community, and it's a legacy there. So thank you for showing up and standing up for your community. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go to Council Member Morrow. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm going to pretty much echo what's been said about Mr. Bush. Brian, thank you for putting yourself forward. As he stated, his family, fourth generation in the Arlington community, and Brian has also recently built a home in the Arlington community. So he's invested in so many ways, if you will, and I do believe that whatever contribution he's going to make to the CRA is going to help move things forward as we continue this transformation of the Arlington community. So again, thank you. Thank you for putting yourself forward. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Let me go to Pastor President Freeman. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through the chair to Mr. Bush. One, thank you for putting yourself forward. Just wanted to comment on one of your responses, which I thought was phenomenal, when it asked about your challenges. And I love the fact when people, when they know what they don't know. Yeah. And so I just wanted to comment that I think what you see as your biggest challenge, I see as your biggest strength. Because you're going to be a fresh set of eyes coming in and hearing a lot of experts that have heard a certain way of going, doing something, and you may offer perspective that they have not yet thought of. So really looking forward to seeing your contribution on this committee. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Thank you. No other speakers in the queue. I've got a motion to second on the bill. Let's open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. All right. By your action, you've approved 2026-0581. And as the others, Mr. Bush, Tuesday night, we'll, to the final vote, recognize you for your service. Thank you, sir. Next item we'll go to is item number 23 on page 15. Got a motion to the bill on 2026-0593. I've got a motion and a second. It's a reappointment. They do not have to appear, so we have no other speakers in the queue. Let's open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you're approved 2026-0593. The next item will be number 24, 2026-0594. I've got a motion and a second on the bill. This is Mr. Beasley here. Come on down, sir, and give us a little bit of information about your desire to serve on the Opioids and Substance Disorder Grants Committee. Yes, sir. Thank you. I'm Bruce Bryan Beardsley. Address is 5623 Ortega Farms Boulevard, Jacksonville, 32244. I've been a nurse for about 20 years, advanced practice nurse for 10. I specialize in mental health treatment and substance use disorder treatment. Over the last 10 years, I've worked in all levels of substance use treatment and relapse prevention. And I've had my ear to the ground for a while for a service opportunity. And one of the existing committee members, Heather Rios, called and told me about it. And I thought, perfect. I think my experience can lend to that project well. All right. Very good. I have no speakers in the queue. Let's open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action approved, 2026-0594. And as the others, Mr. Beardsley, Tuesday night, you can be here after the final vote and you'll be recognized. Thank you for your service. Thank you. Thank you all. All right. Next item will be page 18, item number 32, 2026-06-08. I've got a motion and a second on the reappointment. Do not have to appear. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you've approved, 2026-06-08. Next item will be item number 33, 2026-06-90. Get a motion on. I've got a motion and a second. Next item is Damaris Matos here. Come on down. If you would, just give us a little bit of the desire of why you want to be on the council on Elders Affair. Good morning, everyone. My name is Damaris Matos. I've been working with the council now for about a year as a volunteer. And they've asked me, and I feel that I can contribute more to what I'm already doing with them. I feel that the seniors are a very important part of us. That's where we're all headed. And if we don't have the right resources now, when we get there, we're not going to have it. So it affects everybody. All right. Thank you. I don't have any speakers in the queue. If you would give your address as well. 6138 North Drive, Jacksonville, Florida, 32244. All right. Very good. Thank you. I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Let's open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-06-09. And as the others, Ms. Matos, Tuesday night, you'll be recognized after the final vote. And we appreciate your service. Thank you. You guys enjoy. Next item, number 34-2026-0610. Can you get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second. And is Mr. Or is Worley Richards here? Mrs. That's why I paused to make sure I... That's okay. Good morning, everybody. If you would give a little bit of information about your desire to be on the Elder Affairs. Sure. My address is 15671 Mason Lakes Drive, Jacksonville, Florida, 32218. My name is Worley Richards. And I am honored to be introduced as a nominee to serve as a board member on the Council on Elder Affairs. As a long-time advocate of older adults and underserved population, I'm deeply committed to ensuring that Jacksonville aging citizens receive the support, resources, and representation that they deserve. And me attending the Council on Elder Affairs meetings, I had the opportunity to see that firsthand. Not only did I attend the meetings, I'm also... Well, I was a community engagement professional, so I would be at most of all of their events throughout the community, whether it was at the DAEA or whether it was at Osborne or senior centers. Our paths have always met. I'm a grassroots type of person. I believe going into all of the areas, not just one specific one. I believe that me being on the board will enhance the impact that we're doing for our seniors right now because we have so many challenges. And I think my experience with education, health care, and being an advocate, grassroots level, community engagement professional, I would be able to definitely be an asset on that board. All right. Thank you. I've got Council Member Pittman in the queue. Good morning. I want to say thank you. I've seen you at a lot of the events. And I just want to say thank you for serving and being an advocate for seniors in our community because it means a lot. And I was just sharing with one of my colleagues this morning that our seniors need a lot of help. Sometimes they don't have individuals or family members that can help them and navigate. So I appreciate your service, and I'm going to be continuing to watch you as well. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Thank you. I have no other speakers in the queue. I've got a motion second on the bill. Let's open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action you're approved, 2026-0610. Next item we'll go to is number 35, 2026-0611. Can I get a motion? I've got to get a second. I've got a motion and a second is Elise Curse here. Alice, come on down and give us a little bit of the desire of your heart to be on the Elder's Affair. Good morning, everyone. This is my first time here. I was asked for my church to come try to get on the board. My name is Alice Curse. My address is 4266 Broad Creek Lane, Jacksonville, Florida, 3216. Well, I came because I help a lot of people at my church. I go to Dayspring, Pastor Rumlin. I also work at the VA. So I'm an advanced medical support assistant. And I've always worked. I worked 10 years, Blue Cross and Blue Shield, doing claims and authorization specialist at UF Health. So I've seen a lot of seniors come through with nobody to help. So I try to have resources. I have a daughter working in mental health. So I kind of know people to try to guide them to where they need to go. Because there's a lot of people that don't have anyone to even go pick up medication. So I just decided they asked me at my church to come and see if I can serve by the Council of Elderly Affairs. Because I bring a lot of health care experience and compassion. All right. Thank you. I have no other speakers in the queue. Let's open a ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you're approved. 2026-0611. And, Ms. Curse, if you would come Tuesday night, we'll announce your name after the final vote. Thank you for your service. Thank you. Next item we'll go to is item number 37, 2026-0615. Got a motion on the bill. Got a second. I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Mr. Meeks, come on down. Give us a little bit of the desire that you have to serve as a qualified elector on the City Civil Service Board. Jack Meeks, Historic Springfield, 1206 Hubbard Street, 32206. Well, I've had a lengthy working career. I won't bore you with all the details, but I started working at 14. This is back in the good old days where we, I like to say I started in the petroleum industry, but that really meant pumping gas, washing windshields, and cleaning restrooms. At any rate, I came here to Jacksonville in 1973 right out of college to have a CPA career. So I've had to balance the needs of being both an employee, having employees, trying to balance out fairness to the employees, and also having a business that would work. I've also had 30 years or so of being an expert witness in financial disputes, including a few, not all that many, but a few wrongful termination suits. So what I'm really committed to do is make sure that I use the skills I've acquired over the years to apply appropriate due diligence and make sure that, at least for my vote, it's a good decision as to what we should do in that particular set of circumstances. So thank you again for your consideration today. Right. Thank you. Council Member Pittman, you're recognized. Good morning, Jack. First of all, thank you for being here. I've known you for several, several years, and I've also known you to be a fair man, very active in his community and hands-on, and I want to thank you for stepping up as well. You're right. You do have a lengthy career doing a lot of stuff in our community and being seen and pouring back as well. So I want to say thank you for stepping up to this particular community. Thank you. Well, thank you. I have gotten older, so that adds to the length. Season, not older. Season. All right. Thank you. Let me go to one of our seasoned, Council Member Wolin. An advocate for elder affairs, to be sure. Jack, thank you so much for putting yourself forward. I just want to warn you, you've got some big shoes to fill. I want a shout-out to Jim Register. Jim serves on that board, and it's not easy work, as you'll soon find out. But I'm sure you're going to do a great job in picking up where he left off. Thank you. Thank you. All right. No other speakers in the queue. And I just want to state that Mr. Meeks is highly qualified for this position, and I'm fully supportive of it. With that, let's open the ballots and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you're approved. Twenty-twenty-six-zero-six-one-five. And Mr. Meeks, if you come Tuesday night, we'll announce your name after the final vote, and we appreciate your service. Thank you. All right, a little change-up that I'm also going to do, and we're going to go to item number 19 for Council Member White, and we'll go back to the top of the agenda after that. It'll be on page 12. Twenty-twenty-six-zero-five-eight-seven. Can I get a motion on the amendment? I've got a motion and a second on the amendment. Ms. Carraher. Through the chair to the committee, the amendment will attach the exhibit one, which was not filed with legislative services, and also place the city of Jacksonville real estate purchase agreement on file, which was also not originally filed. Right. No speakers in the queue on the amendment. I'll take this vote verbally. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Likewise, none. The amendment carries. Can I get a motion and a second on the bill as amended? And I've got a motion and a second. Those speakers in the queue, open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. All right, by your action, you've approved 20-26-0587. Thank you, former President White, for being here. All right, this takes us back to the beginning of our agenda, starting with item number one, 20-24-0966. Item number two, 20-25-0775 is deferred at the request of Council Member Carlucci. Item number three, 20-26-0192 is deferred at the request of Council President Howland. Item number four, 20-26-0203 is deferred at the request of Council President Howland. Item number five, 20-26-0227 is deferred at the request of Council Member Diamond. And that brings us to item number six, 20-26-0318. Can I get a motion on the withdrawal? All right, I've got a motion and a second on the withdrawal. Ms. Carraher on the withdrawal. Through the chair to the committee, the bill sponsor, Council Member Johnson, has asked us to mark this bill for withdrawal. Okay, all right, I've got a motion and a second on the withdrawal. Let's open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. All right, by your action, you've approved the withdrawal of 20-26-0318. Item number seven, 20-26-0320 is deferred at the request of Council Member White. Item number eight, 20-26-0376 is deferred at the due to LUZ. Item number nine, 20-26-0517 is deferred. Item number 10, 20-26-0545 is deferred. Item number 11, we've taken action. Item number 12, 20-26-0570 is deferred at the request of Council Member Bolin, and I'll let him address it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to remind my colleagues I've got a notice meeting at 1130 today, assuming we'll be done well before that. A lot of conversation on this bill. I met with JSO last week. I've been working with the planning department as well as a number of organizations who have an active interest in this legislation. I look forward to having the conversation, and hopefully you can join us for a few minutes. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Item number 13, we've already taken action. Item 14, 20-26-0575. Can you hear a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. 20-26-0575. By your action, you've approved 20-26-0575. Item number 15, 20-26-0578. Can I get a motion on the amendment? I've got a motion and a second on the amendment. Ms. Carraher on the amendment. Through the chair to the committee, the amendment will remove the extension language from the bill, will correct some scrivener's errors, and will attach a revised Exhibit 1, which is the term sheet and budget, to remove the line item budget as it relates to the operating funds, remove the extension language, and also include the capital expense descriptions within the term sheet. Thank you. Councilman Amaro, on the amendment. Okay, I've got no other speakers in the queue. On the amendment, all in favor of the amendment, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Likewise. None. The amendment carries. I've got a motion and a second on the bill as amended. I've got a motion and a second. Councilman Amaro, you recognize. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm going to support the legislation. I just want to make a comment that I had a meeting with the principals involved. I'm going to support it because it's necessary, and I expressed my concern to them regarding what usually happens at the intersection of Beaver and Jefferson, and it seems like, depending on the time of day, just that area just looks like a dump pile, if you will. They've reassured me that they're looking for ways to remedy that because there are a number of – that whole area is in transition, if you will, and it's just unsightly when you're driving that corridor, and you're like, oh, my gosh, what happened here? So I just wanted to make that comment on record. It really has nothing to do with the bill, but it's because one of the entities that's going to benefit from this, I made that explicitly clear to them that I'd like to see that addressed, and they've reassured me that they will. All right, thank you. Let me go to Dr. Salem. Thank you, Chair. I've been very involved in this issue for a number of years, and I also met with Trinity, as did Council Member Morrow, and do pass through that corridor probably once a day, if not more than that, six, seven days a week. So if you've been through there, particularly on hot days like we've had this summer, it's sad, to say the least. And there are dozens and dozens of people out there. There is trash. There is people's clothing. All the stuff they're carrying with them is all out there. And I think this will help the situation, but I am not of the belief that this is going to be, in any way, shape, or form, solve this situation. There are 55 openings they have, and I haven't stopped to count everybody out there, but there's a lot more than 50 people out there on most days when I pass through. I think people from other areas kind of come into that area for whatever reason and hang out in that area. I think the eventual solution is some type of separate facility for sort of like Solzbacher has on the other side of downtown that was introduced by one of our Carly's, Council Member Boylan. Not Boylan. My mind just went blank. Bowman, thank you. I apologize to my good friend Aaron Bowman for doing that, which created the daycare center there. People could go in and get food and have a spot for their stuff and all that stuff. I think that is the eventual solution to this, but this is a step, I think. And like my colleague, I'm going to support it, but I don't want my colleagues here to believe that this is going to solve it. I think we're still going to have problems going forward because of the number of people that are out there, and they can only create, through these renovations, so much space in this building to accommodate people that are out there. Thank you. All right, thank you. Let me go to Pastor President Freeman. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I, too, will be supporting this. But just one or maybe two quick questions. Through the chair to the auditors, the account that this is coming out of, what's the balance? Through the chair to Council Member Freeman, after this appropriation, there will be about $690,000 available in that fund. Thank you so much. And I realize this is rules, but I only ask that question because I know that the liaison often spoke of us taking money out of this account. So I wanted to make sure that this was something that that board approved of, or do we know if there was any dissenting voices of us moving this forward? I'm supporting it. I think it's a good idea. I'm all about trying to reduce homelessness. I just want to make sure we're still walking in lockstep with what they would like to see done as board members there, or commissioners. Through the chair to Council Member Freeman, I'm not aware of any opposition to this. Because this program was included in their strategic, their one-year plan. So I assume that they approve of this. All right. Thank you. No other speakers in the queue? Okay. I don't have you on there, but to our seasoned Council Member Bolin, go ahead. Okay. Enough of that. I take pride in the fact that I'll be 75 on November 3rd. I just want to circle back, and I appreciate very much Council Member Salen's comments. Now, I hearken to my colleagues, the Council President, then Tom Freeman, we did the CQLI. We focused a lot of energy in recommending what we called long-term housing with wraparound services. We're seeing Salzbacher do that now at two different levels. I look at daycare centers or shelters as temporary solutions. They're triaged, and they're appropriate and necessary. But I'm hopeful that we're looking at focusing on creating additional long-term housing with wraparound services so that we can make this, have a solution to this problem and not necessarily a Band-Aid on it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right. Thank you, sir. All right. So with that, I've got a motion and a second on the bill as amended. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you're approved, 2026-0578. Next item, number 16, 2026-0579. Get a motion on the bill. I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Dr. Salem, you're recognized. Thank you, Chair. I was hoping the Inspector General was going to be down here today for a discussion on this particular issue. Can somebody highlight for the committee the exact issues with this particular organization and how they were handling their dollars? No one. Through the Chair to Council Member Salem, this organization received a grant from the Safety and Crime Reduction Commission back in fiscal 22-23. They received a $9,000 grant. That grant was dispersed in two draws of $4,500. And because the funds were advanced, the code requires that the funds be kept in a separate bank account, separate from that organization's other funds. So through their Chapter 118 reporting process, the reports that were submitted to our office, it was discovered that the city funds were commingled with their other funds, which is the reason why they are still on the noncompliance list. That's not exactly something that can be cured unless they return the entire amount. So they have sought forgiveness legislation to be removed from the noncompliance list. Through the Chair, did we get any accountability of those dollars? Through the Chair to Council Member Salem, yes, we got full reporting of those dollars. They ended up returning, I believe, about $35. But other than that, the funds were spent in accordance with their budget, allowable purposes under Chapter 118. So it wasn't an issue with how the funds were spent. It was how they were handled within their bank accounts. Through the Chair, do you know if the Inspector General investigated this and put forward a report on this organization? Through the Chair to Council Member Salem, I believe there was a report issued on this organization on other funds they received from the Kids Hope Alliance. But I'm not aware of the details of that report. Okay. I'm going to vote no today. I'm just not comfortable with everything that I'm hearing and what I've heard recently. As I said, I was hoping the Inspector General or someone from his staff was going to be here today. I don't know if anybody from grants can comment on this. But the allegations of intermingling city dollars with your other dollars is pretty doggone serious to me. It's $9,000. I get that part of it. But I'm just not comfortable today unless someone can convince me. Thank you. Through the Chair, Councilman Salem, Maribel, Figueroa, Grants and Contract Compliance Division Chief. The Safety and Crime Reduction had two years of mini-grants. And what was unique with those is that they were all paid up front. And what Chapter 118 specifically states is that unless it's reimbursement, then they must have a separate bank account. And OIG, a couple of years ago, I have to get the exact date. I'll pull the report in case the question comes up in the future committee meetings this week. But a couple of years ago, there was an OIG report specifically on safety and crime reduction. And that was one of their findings. This was not the only organization they found where funds were commingled. So that was a finding that OIG did have specifically to this. And we went back and did some homework. They did get an orientation. And there was a specific slide there for Office of General Counsel. And during that orientation, before they received the funds, Office of General Counsel did inform them that you have to keep separate bank accounts. But there were several that did not. And this was one of those. Continue. Have they received a grant since this? I assume they have not. Through the chair, no, sir. They have not because they've been on the noncompliance list since then. The other organizations that you, and I don't need to know the names necessarily, that you mentioned that also intermingled dollars, city dollars with their other dollars, are they coming up to, are they on the noncompliance list as well? Or are they coming up at some point? Through the chair to Councilman Salem, they may be on the list. We have a number of organizations that are still on the compliance list for different reasons. Some include the commingling of bank accounts, but primarily those that are still on the list is because these are funds given up front, and they have not returned either allowable receipts or they have not returned the funds. And that's why those remain on there. But some of those may also have the bank account issue, but we're not up to that step yet. One last question, if I can. Are they trying to get off the list so they can apply for other grants? Through the chair to Councilman Salem, I don't know what their individual goals are. There are two or three, maybe a couple more, that are in the process that did submit, some of them it's like an annual report, right, that did submit it. The council auditor's office is currently reviewing that. So there are several that are making an attempt to get everything right, to get off the list, so that they can compete for future opportunities. But any specific agencies or opportunities, I'm not aware of. Okay. I'm not comfortable today. Others might be. I'd like to get much more information, like to see the organization here. I mean, this is, I mean, intermingling dollars is pretty serious stuff to me. And I'm going to follow up with the inspector general as well, personally, to get some more specifics. Thank you, Chair. Thank you. Ms. Pittman, you were on the queue. Go ahead. Good morning. If y'all would come back up, please. Thank you. I do know that we have several, and several of us have received emails asking for forgiveness for at least two others that I know of. And I just want to make sure as we try to help these organizations get off the list, some of it has been long time, and I'm not going to call any names right now, but long time organizations that have served in our community that are still on the list. And so I just want to make sure that we are fair in what we're doing. What we do for one organization, we need to make sure that we do that for other organizations. And so that is my only concern at this point. Some of the organizations have new people who are at their organizations who knew nothing about what happened several years ago. So for those that we can, I just want to make sure the protocol is done correctly and it's fair. And if I can make sure that I get that from you all, I would appreciate that. Yes. Through the Chair, Maribel Figueroa, Grants and Contract Compliance. And I have Dr. Garrett here who managed the program on behalf of the Safety and Crime Reduction at the time, in case there's any questions that I'm not able to answer. But of the, I think it was 40 in 2022-23, if I'm not mistaken, recipients of those, there are nine that are still on the compliance list, made away as one of those. The other eight that are still on there primarily is because we just don't have the receipts for the money that they were given. And we are working with them as long as they're willing to work with us. Some are no contact. Some are trying the best they can to find receipts. And if they don't find the receipts, what we're basically letting them know is that they're going to need to return the funds that they don't have allowable receipts for. And so we are doing everything we can to work with them as long as they're willing to work with us. Yeah. And I just would like to say that program was a new program and there was a lot of moving parts to it. So, you know, as we investigate that, we take some consideration on the city's part as well. And I'm not saying that they should not return the money or whatever has happened, but I think we need to look a little bit deeper because there was so much going on with that particular grant. I mean, I think you remember we didn't really know what to do with it, you know. And so I would like a report back on it because my concern is one that there's smaller organization, grassroots organizations, who probably was the first time ever receiving those grants and probably didn't know what questions to ask of them because that was their first time. And so I would hate to see those organizations who have been an asset to some of the communities that are no longer being able to request funding or grants that could potentially help client bases that they're helping. So that would be my only concern with those organizations, you know, lesson learned, you know. But for some of them, $1,000 or, you know, $200 to not be on a list concerns me somewhat. So that's my two cents that I would like to just make and say. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Council Member Bullen, you were on the queue. Thank you, Mr. Chair. A couple of thoughts. I would certainly suggest we defer this bill today to get some further information. While I appreciate Council Member Pittman's concern and questions, these are taxpayer dollars. And as nonprofit organizations are constantly being challenged by the credibility. My suggestion is that we – and we had a similar issue last cycle with the FOP, and we seem to let that one go through. So I appreciate your point of consistency in this process. Mayor Bill, I know that you have these. I'd love to get for us to have a detailed report on the noncompliance, those who are on the noncompliance list and the rationale for it. But I think Councilman Salem mentioned last time about some thoughts of taking a look at these requirements and setting for us a criteria as to when or why we may pardon or forgive a particular organization and that result. So is it through the Chair to Ms. Figueroa? So can we get a list like that and maybe take this conversation as a bigger level or a bigger picture than just this one particular item? Through the Chair to Councilman Boylan, I can provide the information that I received on the noncompliance list, but I will ask and defer to Council Auditor's Office. They issue the list. It's their list. Okay. And so they would be best positioned to address it. Ms. Carraher. I'm just the messenger. So please, if I could get a list like that. And as much detail as possible as we understand what the challenges are. I mean, commingling is one thing. You know, there's a lot of different reasons why it happens, and I understand that. And I did appreciate Ms. Figueroa's comment about the fact that they are very explicitly in communicating the responsibility of the organizations not to commingle these dollars. And if that information is clearly demonstrated, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for organizations that don't comply with that personally. Because, again, these are tax dollars, and we want to – my goal is to continue and press upon our community the importance of the nonprofit sector. And any time we take a misstep in that process, that puts another chink in the armor. And I want to do what we can to protect the nonprofit sector. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right. The queue is filling up. Let me go to Council Member Amaro. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to hear very quickly to the auditors, make sure we all get a copy. Thank you. And I've seen a list in the past. Just one quick question for Ms. Figueroa. When you said they're willing to work, you're willing to work with them as long as they're willing to work with you. The only thing that popped in my mind was, was there a time certain to complete these negotiations or conversations? You don't want it to go on ad infinitum. And so I didn't know if there was a time certain, and that's my question. Through the Chair, the Councilman Amaro, the time that they had to work with us in terms of if you're talking about a deadline is long past. Long, long past. They're basically sitting on the list. If someone contacts us and say, I'd like to get this straight, I'd like to work through this, I'd like to give the money back, I'd like to give you the receipts, annual report, whatever was missing, then we will not turn them away. We will listen. We will work with them. And Dr. Garrett has been doing that. She's got two or three already that were just recently sent to Council Auditor's Office for review and approval of their annual report. So they basically just stay there, just like everyone else stays on the list until the sleepers wake up and say, hey, I want to get some funding and I want to come off this list. If they contact us, we will listen and we will do everything we can to hold their hands and work with them and try to get them off that list to the extent that we can legally do that. Through the chair, so should there be a time certain something instituted somewhere to relieve the frustration that your office is experiencing and to be sure that these people, these organizations are held accountable within a reasonable period of time? Through the chair to Councilman Amaro, we send our own noncompliance letters as well, and we do so periodically. But basically, they stay on the list. The list just continues to exist. And unless someone in that list, in this case with Madaway Foundation, wants to get things right, then they will either work with us. And obviously, if it's something that requires legislation, they will have to work with whoever their elected representative are. So for us, it's not anything that we are day-to-day putting work into. The list just stays there. And if someone contacts us, we answer the call and we work with them at the time. We would not reject working with them because it's three years later. If they come back three years later and say, I want to make this right, unless instructed otherwise, we will work with them. But they have to provide what is needed in order to come off that list. Thank you so much. Through the chair to the council auditor's office, when you provide the information, would you also share how long people have been in this status of violation? I think it's abusive, to be honest, if they've been there for a very long time and have not reached some resolution one way or the other. And in my humble opinion, if there's someone there that's beyond five years, we need to have some legislation that puts an end to that practice. So thank you. All right. Thank you. Let me go to Council Member Freeman. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Through the chair to Ms. Reber, did you have something you wanted to add? Thank you. Through the chair to Council Member Amaro, we like to leave the entities on the noncompliance list to ensure that they're not going to get future city funding. So whether they're on the list for three years, five years, we just need to make sure, since they didn't comply with the reporting requirements of Chapter 118, that in the future they're not going to get city funding. So that's why it's a continual list, and they can stay on there for five, ten years. Thank you so much for that. And so I just wanted to ask a few questions. Through the chair to the auditors, OGC, can we recall when the Crime and Safety Committee sunset? I want to say that. Was that 22, 23? Was that my year as Council President? No. Was Rotman? No. It would have been before Rotman got on. Because it was the following year. And the reason why I'm asking that question is we then took those dollars, and they gave out $9,000 microgrants. And they were very, I don't know their processes, how they chose them, I don't know how the groups were selected, but I'm saying that because when you hear a lot of this conversation about microgrants and them not working, it wasn't something that I conceived. But yet they've been conflating my thought process of a microgrant with the reality of what they're dealing with, which was something they created. And when I say they, that means the volunteers of the Crime and Safety Committee, which I commend the work they're doing. I commend these organizations for coming in and trying to get these dollars. It's a cumbersome process. I don't know where we're at on who's on what list. I've had groups call me. I've just told them, call the city, try to figure it out, make it right. I don't know the process at all. I'm not here to cast blame. But I wanted to make sure that at least you all finally connect the dots. Now when you hear about microgrants not working, it wasn't what I had in my mind. This was something that was conceived by volunteers and then supported by the administration and staff. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Let me go back to Dr. Salem. I heard a comment, and I don't think Council Member Boylan intended this, but every organization that comes to us with this kind of issue has different issues. The FOP did not want to do a complete audit of their entire organization, which would have costed, as I recall, $15,000 for the small dollars they got from us. They were able to account for every dollar that we provided them. This situation, in my mind, is completely different. So I didn't want the FOP to be thrown into this hopper, and I don't think that was your intent, clearly. But I just wanted to make sure we separate them. Every situation is different, and we need to look at every one of these with open eyes to make sure the reasons are correct. And I think deferral is a good suggestion, but that's up to the chair, but we'll go forward. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Let me go back to Ms. Pittman. Mr. Chair, thank you so much for addressing that, because I was going to say the same thing as well. But my concern is, and I want to say it again, we definitely want to be transparent with taxpayers' money. But what I was saying, if that didn't come across clearly, was having a process that we need to put in place and to make sure, you know, for a lot of these organizations, again, not saying their names, their issues are different. They're very different. And so I just want to make sure, whatever it is, there's a process that it's fair across the board, that you don't do one and not do the other. That's all I was saying. And I'm glad you brought that up, because that could have been taken the wrong way. So I just wanted to make sure we clarified that. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Councilman Bowling. I appreciate the clarification, Councilman Salem and Ms. Pittman, on the process. I'm saying there are a variety of reasons why entities, and I just used that one as an example of which we had last time around. I'd be more than happy, as the council leads on to the public PSG council, et cetera, to work with the auditors and Ms. Maribel and Ms. Dr. Garrett, to see what we can do to bring some parameters around this process as to how and why we can justify a pardon of an organization's noncompliance list, if that helps. Again, I reaffirm my suggestion that we defer this bill. All right. Thank you. Mr. Dennis, you've been on and off of the queue. Through the chair, I was going to ask for the chairman to bring up the grants department, but they came up and explained it. So, thank you. Okay. Thank you. And I appreciate the dialogue we've had on this, and I will be deferring it, but I wanted to go ahead and have these discussions so everybody knew where we were coming from on this. And I totally agree. We are challenged, no matter whether it's $10 or $10 million, to hold the line of the rule of law. And so, we have got to keep it consistent. I look at what our procurement does with our capital projects that we do. We have a list of companies that cannot do – they're barred from the city. So, there's not a noncompliance. They are barred. And after a certain – I don't know, you know, we need to get some kind of procedure to where, after a certain period of time, if they've stayed on this noncompliance list, that they would fall into that category and not just be concerned about getting off the noncompliance list when they're wanting to come back and get additional funds. So, you know, we do the due diligence to get the money out to them. We need them to comply and do the due diligence to follow the procedures to comply. So, whether it's, you know, with the state, with contractor license, if you don't fulfill or you don't do what you're supposed to, you've got to do additional continuing education. There's requirements and penalties and procedures you've got to follow through. And I think that's what we need to have laid out to these applicants ahead of time that here's what's required of you or these are the circumstances that will be enacted on you. So, with that, I'm going to defer this and look for getting more information as the council members have requested. And I'll go back to Ms. Pittman. First of all, I want to give Maribel and her team kudos because a couple of years ago, has it been almost two years since you've come in now? Yeah. There was concerns regarding processes and making sure that the nonprofits understand. So, there has been a lot of training, a lot of communications. So, I don't want you to think that we're not recognizing because I know I've had several conversations with you all to make the process better. I think over the years, the process had not been good. I'll just be honest with you. And where we are now to where we came from, there's a really big difference. So, let me say that and give you y'all kudos for that. All right. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. Absolutely. We commend you for the efforts y'all have been doing. And as we keep evolving, we keep finding the ways to make it more effective for our community to get these funds and to be making sure that everybody is accountable. All right. So, that I have deferred that. Next item 17, we've already taken action. Item number 18, 2026-0582. Can you motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot. Record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0582. Item number 19, we've taken action already. It takes us to item number 20, 2026-0588, is deferred at the request of the developer. Item number 21, 2026-0589. Can you get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. Mr. Bowling, you're recognized. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well, I appreciate the interest on the part of Council Member Carrico to introduce this bill. To me, we're just walking back from what the intent was that we made in recent council rule changes. It just, it provides, there's ample opportunity for any member of the council who has a second job or a primary job, if you will. It puts to, in my mind, it puts to question whether or not they see this role as a priority. And if you're, you know, the calendar's published, you're out. You know when the committee meetings are going to be. You know when the city council meetings are going to be. You've not had that conversation with your employer with respect to your responsibility of serving the constituents. I'd hate to be up for re-election and say that I voted for this bill to provide me, me as a council member, additional opportunities to step away from our responsibility to the constituents. I can't support this today. I won't support it next week if it goes through. As I said, it's walking back what we tried to put in place with the last rules change to require greater attention and living up to the responsibility you've been elected to do. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right. Thank you. Let me go to Dr. Salem. Thank you, Chair. Like Council Member Boylan, I have some part-time work outside of the council, and I can control that because I'm the boss. It's my company. I'm sympathetic to those that are working for somebody else that may get a call from their boss saying, I need to see you, you know, in 15 minutes, whatever it is. And I think this allows for a year, if I read it correctly, is that correct, through the chair, for a year, which to me is not excessive. It's not like they can't use this excuse routinely. So I think we need some balance here for those that have full-time work outside the council where they might not be in complete control of their schedule, whether it's four, two, or whatever it is, I think it's appropriate, and I'll be supporting it. All right. Thank you. Let me go to Council Member Freeman. Thank you, Mr. Chair. My question is just simple when it comes to enforcement. I'm good with, you know, us creating boundaries and rules. I think one thing we've forgotten here as well, we've gotten, you know, for those of us that are parents, if a kid gets sick or, I mean, this list, I know, I get it, and we added that in the beginning, but I'm saying the list can continue to grow, and I think this is maybe another scenario that someone is trying to add to it. What is the consequence on this one per se? Is it the same where you get removed from a committee or an option of the chair to remove them from the committee through the chair to OGC? Through the chair to Council Member Freeman, it's the same failure to attend three regular meetings of a standing committee or three consecutive meetings of a special or select committee without approval shall constate automatic withdrawal. Thank you. I thought I saw four somewhere, but that's why I was asking. I really like to try to have this put out where people who are watching can hear it as well. So the number's three and not four through the chair to OGC? So through the chair to Council Member Freeman, if this amendment were to be approved, you could have up to four excusals for a work-related reason, after which then they would become unexcused, and the enforcement mechanism I just articulated would be an effect. Understood. So that means seven total, if you have four from work and then three unexcused. That's one scenario. From committee or council. They're combined, right? It's an aggregate. I mean, we're getting into the weeds of this, but I want to make sure they're set up good, and this is through the chair to Council Member Boylan. It's your bill. I want to make sure that people out there understand, because as soon as I hear, like, campaigning and I hear all those things, the electorate just believes what they sometimes perceive to be reality. We have a chance to clearly state it so that for those who are campaigning and they're voting for or against and whoever can benefit or be hurt from it, there's audio out there that they can run in their commercials or whatever, however this thing may lay out. So through the chair to Council Member Boylan, I get where you're at on this. Because I'm showing up. That's my goal. My goal is to show up, so I'm not really concerned as much about this for me. But can you please clearly state again, the current bill that we passed gives you three unexcused abstinences. Is that correct? Through the chair to Council Member Freeman, the current bill provides an opportunity for any council member to secure an excused abstinence, work-related or otherwise. There are two available for each meeting. But to answer to your question specifically right now, the rule states that if you have three unexcused absences at a committee meeting, you can be dispelled from that committee. If, in fact, you have an unexcused absence of full council meeting, obviously we can't kick you off the council, but they can announce the fact that you have an unexcused absence for that meeting, so it's on the record to recognize the fact that you did not seek permission of the council president to be excused from a city council meeting. All right. Thank you so much for that clarity. And one of the things that I did appreciate in this legislation was the absence of being in your seat during certain votes and then coming back afterwards. I did appreciate that part for sure. I'm going to support it. The bill sponsor is not here. Again, I'll use the line that you've probably heard Council Member Gay use, maybe Amaro and myself. I do reserve the right to change my mind later as I see this continuous. It's only in rules, it looks like. So then maybe the dialogue will change the night of the council meeting if something else comes up. But to me, I have no problem supporting this. And so I will go ahead and support. Thank you. Thank you. Let me go to Michelle. Thank you. Through the chair to the committee, I wanted to clarify one thing. Because Council Member Freeman, you were articulating some questions about committee versus full council meeting. And one thing we didn't touch on was this legislation provides that a council member receiving an excused absence from a full council meeting for a work-related reason is limited to three of those per year. So that's one nuance of that bill that you should be aware. Let me go back to Council Member Boyle. Thank you, Mr. Jarrett. The only other comment I wanted to make in the context of this process speaks to the fact that at a committee level, only four members need to be necessary or present to vote on those. And I looked at the last LUZ meeting and I saw it was interesting, a number of scenarios where there were five votes and suddenly four votes. So the idea that four members of the council out of 19 can direct legislation, particularly as it relates to rezoning and amendments like that, just is concerning to me. I think the broader responsibility that we have, and it really speaks to the issue whether or not, you know, council members recognize that, you know, they have a responsibility to their constituents. And if you can't honor that responsibility and have them coordinate that with your, you know, your employer, and I certainly understand there are situations. The current rules do allow for someone to get an excuse for employment. You know, you're allowed two excuses. And if you say, hey, my boss just called me and I need to be out of here, it's at the discretion of the chair to do so. I don't know that we have to put it to amend the rules to reflect it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. All right. Thank you. Let's go to Dr. Salem. Thank you, Chair. Let me make one point very clear. I'm here. Seven years, never missed a council meeting, okay? Committee meetings. If I've missed one, I don't remember. May have missed one in seven years. So, I'm here. It is a priority for me, but I have control over my calendar. My kids are older. I'm not taking care of a four-year-old unless it's a grandkid, and they know better than to call me. So, but I am sympathetic to those that have, that are in this situation, whether it's Ms. Pittman next to me or those that can't control their schedule because they work for somebody else. That's all I'm trying to say. If I felt like people didn't want to come to committee meetings or, you know, were just looking for a reason not to come, I'd be a lot more concerned. But I think all 19 of us want to be here, but things come up. Thank you. All right. No other speakers in the queue. Let's open a ballot and record your vote. Five yays, one nay. By your action, you approve 2026-0589. All right. That takes us to item number 22. 2026-0590 is deferred. I request to L-U-Z. And 23, item 23, we've already taken action. 24, we've taken action. That takes us to item number 25, 2026-0595. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0595. Item number 26, 2026-0597. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0597. Item number 27, 2026-0598. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0598. That takes us to item number 28, 2026-0599. I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-0599. Next item number 29, 2026-06-01. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-06-01. Next item number 30, 2026-06-04. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-06-04. Next item 31, 2026-06-05. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. All right, by your action, you approve 2026-05-06-05. Next item 32, we've taken action. 33, we've taken action. 34, we've taken action. 35, we've taken action. And it takes us to item number 36, 2026-06-12. Can I get a motion on the withdrawal? I've got a motion and a second on the withdrawal. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you've withdrawn 2026-06-12. Item number 37, we've taken action. Item number 38, we've taken action. And these next items are on second. Item number 39, 2026-06-24. 2026-06-30. 2026-06-35. Item 42, we've already taken action. And that takes us to item number 43, 2026-06-42. Can I get a motion on the bill? I've got a motion and a second on the bill. No speakers in the queue. Open the ballot and record your vote. Six yays, zero nays. By your action, you approve 2026-06-42. And the next item, 44, is on second, 2026-06-45. And that takes us to the end of our agenda. Do we have any additional comments from the committee? I see none. We are adjourned. We are adjourned.