All right. Good morning, committee members and other parties of interest. This is the evaluation committee meeting training for RFP 2600365 CDBGDR, Notice of Funding Availability for Small Multifamily Rehabilitation Projects. My name is Joe Wright, and I am the buyer assigned to this project. This training is being held in part by means of communications media technology and has been publicly noticed. Active participation will be used for committee members only. Provisions have been made for any member of the public desiring to have access to view the meeting. The recording will also be available after the meeting has ended. If you are watching online today, please make sure to mute your microphone and turn off your camera for the duration of the meeting. Please be advised that the code of silence is still in effect. All meeting and correspondence must include me. Again, for the record, this meeting is being recorded and has been publicly noticed. At this time, I will ask the committee members and the consultants to introduce themselves for the record, beginning with the committee chair, Maria. Angela Madero, Manager of Social Services. Thank you. And we could just kind of go around, I guess, the whole room. Maria Gillis, Social Services Division Director. Joe Stokes, Ellsborough County Affordable House Contract Manager. Honey McGregor, Facilities Management Contracts Manager. I'm Logan Finney, Buyer Procurement. Erica Jeffries, Management Budget Grants Compliance and Reporting Officer. Jessica Monroe Stroh, Social Services Special Project Coordinator. Chuck Roof, Social Services ESF6 Manager. Good morning. I'm Audrey Ziegler, Social Services Department Director. And I'd like to take a moment to thank procurement for helping us put this together. Thank our consultants BDO for the training, offering this technical training to help us move this project along. And obviously, thank the committee for the work that they'll do scoring the applications. We've selected this group based on expertise, based on your roles within Hillsborough County, and recognizing the professionalism and the selection that you'll bring to making this criteria. You know, bring it to light in the best possible way so we have some good projects for our CDBGDR grant. So thank you, everyone. Hi, I'm Rafael Sestero. I'm the Deputy Program Manager on the BDO side, the Consultants for the County on the Housing CDBGDR. I'm Tracy Stickney. I'm Social Services Special Projects Coordinator. I'm Jane Dixon. I am a Senior Associate with TAG Associates, and we are working with BDO on this project. I'm Zoe Schwartz, an Associate also at TAG Associates. Tisha Simon, BDO, Multifamily Program Manager, supporting RGVP. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. On September 21st, 2026, RFP 2600365 will close. So this training session for the Evaluation Committee and Consultants are here today to discuss how the proposals are to be scored based on the information provided in the proposal as it correlates to the requirements and evaluation criteria set forth in the solicitation. Now I'm going to turn it back over to the Committee Chair as she will begin today's discussion. Actually, I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to BDO so they can start the training and review of the documents. Thank you. Again, as Audrey mentioned, we just want to thank you all for joining us today and for your time and commitment on this project and serving us and helping us support this effort. We will start the training of this material. We will start first by breaking down how the scoring and selection criteria will work, what procurement will start first, and the selection and criteria of selection, and then what we will do on our part. So I'm going to turn it over to Zoe and Jane, and then we'll start on your part and what you will be responsible for on selection. So once again, I'm Zoe. Nice to meet you all. So essentially the full review of the applications have been broken down into three parts. That will be handled by three different sort of parties. So when the applications come in, they'll first be reviewed for completeness by the procurement department, and then they'll be passed on to social services and BDO. And as we will assist with the threshold review. So whether or not the applications are qualified to move on to scoring. And then you guys will be responsible for actually assigning the scores to the applications. Okay. And so the first thing that we have prepared for you is this one page sheet, or I guess it's a little bit, which is sort of the scoring sheet that you'll be using to actually assign scores to each individual application. This is actually an Excel form, so you'll be able to type everything in and it calculates it for you. But you know, for the purposes of discussion, we just printed it out. So it's easier to look at. So we've got several different components of the scoring rubric. The first being project readiness. And within project readiness, there are two items that can earn points. So component one is whether or not the applicant has identified a qualified general contractor so that they are eligible for up to 10 points under that component. And if they do not name a general contractor or leave that area blank and don't worry, we'll go through the areas where you can check all this information. They'll be, you know, they won't earn any forms under that component. The second component of project readiness is what level of permit documentation that they have provided. So in order to get 10 points, they need to provide the appropriate documentation as attachment 12. And that is a permit ready or a permits not required form. And that basically means that their project will be able to move faster because they already have their permits applied for or they're not required. That's why we have that under project readiness there. So we get more points if the project is more ready to move forward because then the units come online faster. Yeah, exactly. And then they get five points if they have submitted an application for permitting and that there is a form that they provide. So it's the application for permitting submitted form. So all of these forms have been provided to the applicants and they need to be signed by the applicable county official or whoever has the authority to sign such a document. And we will be going through those, you know, show you how we can determine if they've been appropriately completed and all that good stuff. All right. If they if they haven't provided anything, then they get zero points. Yes. Yeah, we do have an area where they can acknowledge if they do not submit a form, they won't be eligible for earning any points under this section. So we tried to make it as clear to them as possible, you know, that if they don't submit a form, they won't be getting any points under this component. It doesn't mean that they can't apply and go forward. They're just not going to get points for that particular item. Yeah, that's not a completeness or a threshold item. So that's why that's coming to you as a review committee. Okay. And guys, by the way, feel free to stop me at any point in time if you have any questions. I don't want to just sit and talk at you and, you know, you know, this can be very. Please stop me if you have any questions. Okay. All right. So affordable units brought online. This one is a little bit different where rather than having components where they can earn points under both components, there are two options. Right. So they can only earn up to a maximum of 20 points in this section, even though you can earn up to 20 points under option one or option two. So there could be a situation where an application earns 20 points under option one and option two or, you know, 30 points through the two options, but they can only receive a maximum of 20 under the whole section of affordable units brought online, if that makes sense. All right. So the first option for 10 points, so half of what's available under option one is for if the, if there are currently uninhabitable units that will be brought to habitable throughout the rehabilitation, but it's less than the total number of units in the development, because full points is if all of the units in development are currently uninhabitable and will be brought to habitable through the rehabilitation. So 10 points is if they have at least one and less than the total number of units and 20 points is if all of the units are currently uninhabitable. And so that means that we're kind of incentivizing projects or, you know, we're prioritizing projects that are bringing affordable units back to the county housing stock. Right. Right. And then option two is for currently market rate developments. So if it is currently a 100% market rate development and they apply for your funds and commit to the minimum LMI household requirements, then they would receive 20 points under option two, because that's bringing much more affordable units online through their previously market rate property. And just so you know, we define LMI as 80% AMI or below. Yeah. And there's, there's a little box that they check, you know, say, stating that they commit to it. So it's a little bit easier for you guys to determine if they are eligible for that criteria. Any questions on that criteria for affordable units around the line? All right. So then the last section that they can earn points under is the preferences section. And there are two separate preferences that they can earn five points each for. So there's a maximum of 10 points available under this whole section. So first is the accessibility improvements preference. So to be eligible for these five points, they need to one, commit to the requirements of the preference. So that will be in the application form. And two, they need to provide documentation to the scope of work attachment, which is attachment seven. That shows that they have pricing available for that work and that it is included in their budget. And so unfortunately this is something that we were not really able to provide documentation for all of us to go through together. Because each application is going to be different and they're not in yet. So when the time comes, you know, you can really reach out to us and, you know, let us know if you need help determining whether or not they've provided the required information here. Because really they're going to be providing, you know, information from an architect or a capital needs assessment provider, things like that. And there's no standard form for that. So that'll be really a case by case basis. Okay. And then the reduced resident displacement preference is also five points. And they basically must qualify for the preference, which has a few different ways that you can do so. Which is the project does not require any form of tenant relocation, any offsite relocation. So that means if they're only moving residents within the project itself. Or if the relocation offsite, the number of units need to be really relocated offsite is 30% or less of the total units in the project. So we have more or more in here. Let me get a pen. So under the reduced residence placement preference, that last little bit there, relocation of 30% or more of the total units in the project, that should be less than 30% of units in the project. We'll be sure to make that change in the actual document and send it out to you guys. So essentially, we're prioritizing projects that don't move people around too much. You know, we want to make sure that we impact the residents kind of as little as possible while still achieving the goal. Right. But it's only five points because sometimes relocation is necessary if you're doing really intense rehabilitation. Right. So those are all of the items that are that applicants can earn points for through this NOFA. There's a total of 50 points available through all of these components. And so I just want to stop and make sure. Do we have any questions before we move on to going through the actual application form and what you guys would be responsible for checking? So I was thinking as you all started the session that may be doing a two second kind of overview of the funding and what the intent of the small NOFA is. Oh, I'm sorry. That would have been a great place to start. So that I think the material will kind of start to fit together more. Sure. If they know the overarching program ideas and what we're hoping to accomplish, as well as the thresholds for the funding of each awardee, that sort of thing. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, Audrey. You probably have it, I'm sure. I know it by heart anyway. Yeah, I got it. Thank you so much. Yeah, no worries. Yeah, so this NOFA, the real purpose of it is to fund small multifamily projects of 49 units or less with a minimum of five units, but small multifamily projects that may not have had enough insurance money to fully bring their units back up to where they were before the storms. That's that's really the main purpose is just trying to help out these folks that just need a little bit more of a push, you know, to get the units where they where they want to be. And so with with threshold requirements, they really they need to provide us their their scope of work. So what exactly they're going to do with the units like, you know, are you going to be, you know, renovating the bathrooms, the kitchens, is there flooring that still damage, things like that. And we are requiring that they provide proof that their that their storm damage still remains, you know, up to this date, or that they have currently uninhabitable units that were damaged, not as a result of the storm or just not taking care of the units. Right. So maybe if there was a fire in the units, something like that. Yeah. Or if they if they were able to replace the roofs and then they didn't have enough insurance money to finish, you know, doing all the necessary repairs in the property. So it'll all be based on on what we get in the application in a couple of needs or physical needs assessment or in from an architect. And these will be relatively small awards because of the small size. But there's a total of 10 million dollars, I believe, available in the entire notebook and each project must request a minimum of five hundred thousand dollars. And they can only request up to one point five million dollars. There's a few other things like we we can only allow them to request what they actually need. So they need to disclose all other funds that they've received for the project. So like that insurance money that they could have received and any work that's been done already. You know, they need to provide that information to us as well. And then we do a calculation of what is their remaining need. So if that's less than the one point five million, that becomes their maximum request amount. Right. Because we don't want to give them more than what they actually what the property actually needs. It just hasn't been clear thus far. This is because that's the recovery money that is from Hurricane Helene and or Milton. So it has to be a result of those storms. But as we mentioned, there is also uninhabitable units. So it can even if you don't have them met for making storm needs from Helene or Milton, there is qualifying factors where, you know, properties that were uninhabitable from other damages like fire or storm could still qualify for, you know, for this funding as well. But they do have to be affordable. Yes. So if a market rate developer or owner comes in and applies for the funds, they would have to make their property affordable after they get the funds. All right. I think that's the that's the main overview. You know, we do have quite a lot of requirements, you know, within the NOFA. And they have to give us a lot of information, you know, like where are the nearest bus stops and grocery stores and public schools and things like that. And that all kind of goes into, you know, how we actually select the projects because your score is just, you know, it's a very important part of the selection process. But there are a few other things involved, like we have some tiebreakers. Like if there are two applications that have the same score, we'll look at their proximity score, which is how close they are to resident amenities and things like that in their per unit CDBGDR request amount. And we do also have two different kinds of projects that can apply. There's priority one, which are the ones with that remaining storm damage and priority two, which are market rate properties can be too affordable without remaining storm damage or, you know, those projects with units without relation to the storm. So in the selection process, we'll select priority one applications first within their own sort of category, and then we'll move on to priority two applications. I hope it's not. We're not getting too sidetracked with all the details here, but I think is there anything else you guys want to add to the overview before we get further into the details? I think that's it. But we do also want you to know that while you're scoring, we are going to be available for technical assistance. So if questions do come up, you can always reach out to us for questions and we'll be able to answer those questions. We can't tell you how to score something, but we can walk you through any questions here. All right. So in our little statement guide here, first bit of information that the committee will be responsible for scoring is actually on page six. And we printed the whole tabs for you. The note for application form is in Excel format. So it's meaning that you'll need to scroll past all this in order to get down to the bottom. So we wanted to make sure that we gave you the context of where your sections are in relation to the other information on the tab. Okay, so property eligibility. This is only have two, by the way, of the note for application form. The first bit of information that you will have available to score is for affordable units brought online option two. So that is for the currently marked great properties. So to determine if the application is eligible for 20 points under the second option of affordable units brought online, you'll be reviewing the highlighted column labeled one and the highlighted box labeled two and also three. So for boxes one and two, this is this is how we're checking if it's currently a 100% market rate property, which is what they'll need to be in order to qualify for these 20 points under this option. So you'll be confirming that there are only values entered in column one, because if there's any values in any of the remaining columns, that means that they do currently have affordable units, right? And then you want to make sure that box two matches the total at the bottom of column one, meaning that the total number of market units matches the total number of units in the entire development, right? So that's how you can check if it's a 100% market rate property. And then you also need to make sure that they commit to the LMI requirements, right, which are spelled out next to box three. You know, we make sure that they commit to restricting all housing units assisted with CDBGR funds and 80% of the total housing units at the overall development to 80% area median income or less for a minimum of 20 years. That's our LMI requirement right there. So if they have a yes in that box, that means that they have made that commitment, and they'll be eligible for the 20 points if they also, you know, meet the criteria under, you know, the boxes one through two. Does everybody know what LMI stands for? Yep. I'll say it anyway. Low and moderate info. Because we use a lot of that acronym. So if you don't know what one is, just let us know and we'll tell you what it is. So this is a real simple check. You're just making sure that the number in one and two match and that there's a yes in number three. Honestly, if there's a no in number three, they're kind of not eligible for the funding. Right. Yes. So it might not even get to you. But, you know, we just want to make sure, you know, because you guys are kind of like the last line of defense. If somebody has a no in here, you'll be like, wait, this shouldn't even be here, you know, and you can let us know. Okay. And if you go to page seven, we have quite a few things to check. This is, I believe, tab four. So the first is the accessibility improvements preference. So to determine if the application is eligible for the accessibility improvements preference, first and foremost, we need to check the boxes labeled one and two here. And just so you know, these labels are only in this guide. The actual NOFA application doesn't have these numbers or highlights in it. So I just wanted to make that clear really quick. But first off, box one must have a yes, meaning that they have committed to, you know, the requirements of the accessibility improvements preference, which is that 5% of total projecting accessible to mobility impaired persons and 2% accessible to sensory impaired persons. And then box two should have a little pop up message if they've filled out. Yes, it should say this application, you know, to qualify for the preference. But the job doesn't stop there for this one. Additional review of attachment seven, which is their scope of work attachment, will be needed to determine the final. Qualification meaning that they've included pricing for the work in their in their application. The next one is project readiness component one that's about having a GC identified general contractor. So to determine if the applicant is eligible for those 10 points under the first component of project readiness, you know, you review that box label. And there must be a company name provided there. We've instructed them to type NA. They have not been identified. So if it's NA, then they won't have any points. Are we? Will we be notified if the GCs have been vetted? If they are actually disbarred or not? That's a part of the procurement responsiveness check is to make sure that all the licenses are held in place. But again, it seems to be three lines of defense. So I don't. Yeah. Thank you. So the next one is affordable units for online option one, which is based on the number of currently uninhabitable units. So the first thing is labeling is checking the box labeled four. If the number of total units or the number of units entered here equals the total units on tab two, which is if you look at the previous page, it's that same box that you checked earlier in the current unit mix part. So the total number of units is in that lower right hand corner. If it matches, that means that all units are currently uninhabitable and will be restored to habitable. So then they would be eligible for 20 points. And then if the number is at least one, but less than the total number of units, then they are eligible for 20 or 10 points. Excuse me. The project readiness component two with the permits requires a little bit of jumping around. So maybe we should skip it for now and then come back so we can go through it in the order that it should be checked. Do you think that that sounds a check? Yeah, I think that's fine. We're going to go over these. That's what you're talking about, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So do you want to look at the sheets now and then come back? We still have a few other things in the application form. Okay. That works. Hopefully that works for everybody. Okay. So if we skip down to the box label three down there, the reduced residence placement preference. This one, you know, because there are several different ways to qualify for the preference, it does require a little bit more review. So in order to determine eligibility, we need to check boxes three and four. So if box three says no, meaning that there is no form of tenant relocation, then the application qualifies because they're not displacing anyone. And then box four, there's a few, the boxes four, six, and eight. Those should all have a pop-up message by the time that you have them that should confirm or deny whether or not they qualify for the preference. But, you know, sometimes you can't trust technology, so that's why we have you guys here. So it should, it should, you know, confirm. But if it's wrong, that's why we have you guys. Okay. And then boxes five and six. So will there be any temporary or permanent relocation of any resident off-site? If box five is no, then the application qualifies because if one of the criteria is if there's no off-site relocation, right? But if it's yes, then we move on to boxes seven and eight. So if the number entered into box seven is less than 30% of the total number of units in the project. So once again, that current, that unit mix chart that you guys reviewed for, you know, several of the other criteria, then the application qualifies. Because that's our threshold, it needs to be less than 30%. But if it is 30% or more, and all of the preceding, you know, all of the preceding answers show that they did not qualify, then that is when they do not qualify for the preference. Everything has to be no in order for them to not qualify. All right. And I think now we can do the project readiness component two. All right. So if you go back to page eight, Katie. Sorry. Let's take a look at the forms first, actually. Sorry for making you jump over so much. So page 11, what you'll need to check in the application based off of the forms. If the applicant indicates that they have submitted documentation as attachment 12 of the application form, then the documentation must be reviewed by you in order to determine the score that the application is eligible for under the second component of project readiness, which is about formats, right? So regardless of which form is submitted, the form must be fully completed, accurate, and signed by an authorized representative of the local government. Depending on which form is submitted, it may also need to state that the commitment is valid at least through the NOFA deadline. And we do make sure to make that application for you guys. Okay. So let's take a look at the forms that are available to be submitted that you guys will be responsible for reviewing. The first is application for permitting submitted. So if this application for permitting submitted form is provided as attachment 12 and is fully completed and accurate, states that it is valid at least through the NOFA deadline. If this application is valid and signed by an authorized representative of the local government, then the application qualifies for five points. And so what we need to determine is fully completed and accurate, right? So we've highlighted here is the name of development and development location. That's what you'll be looking back at the NOFA application form and even, you know, using Google Earth to kind of kind of double check, right? And then the next page is the permit ready form. So if they provide this, it is fully completed, valid through at least the NOFA deadline and signed by authorized representatives. And they qualify for 10 points because they are permit ready. They're ready to look, right? And we'll need to check the same thing. So we'll always be checking the name of development and development location for each of these forms. for each of these forms. So I'm putting little cheat notes at the top of it for you. The last two forms, you get 10 points if they provide those two forms for permit ready and then permit not required. And then that first one, they get five points for permit submitted. Yes. But they all have to be signed by the authorized representative. And you want to always check the name of the development and development location on all three forms regardless. So five points for the first form, 10 points for the last two forms. And they should be submitting any one of those three forms. If they don't submit any one of those three forms, zero points. Yeah. And if you look at the very bottom, it tells you who's eligible. And if you'll notice, this last form, permits and required, this one does not have to be valid through the deadline. That's the only one that's different about us. The other two do. Okay. So jumping back to the NOFA application form for checking the permit forms. So this is on page page. When you say NOFA deadline, you're saying September 21st? Yes. Yes, that is yes. The NOFA deadline is when the applications are due. So target readiness component two. So a highlighted box labeled two for a downtrend in the middle of the page. If that says no, then we don't even need to check the forms because they're stating that they have not provided any. And they understand that they won't be eligible for it. Okay. But if it says yes, that kind of triggers our documentation review. If they say yes and there's no form, as Keisha said, that's zero points. You know, that's an error on their part. But yeah, so kind of two is sort of where we start, which is a little odd. But that's just checking whether or not you need to check the forms. So then number one, the name of the proposed development that is going to have to match exactly what they put on their permit form that they submit. If it does not match, then their form is not accurate and they won't receive any points. I have a question for you. Yes. If they submit the forms, but they put the wrong answer. Same thing. Yeah. We'll score it. Huh? We'll score it. Well, so I believe as part of the. So this is an optional. I don't believe that this would be included in completeness review, and this is not a threshold item. They're not required to submit this form. So really, the review committee would be the only ones sort of looking at it. And so if it doesn't match, then it's not accurate and they would not receive points either. Because I'm sure we'll get that answer. So many forms or questions. Okay. Yeah. Well, I think it really should. If you think about it, you know, we want to make sure that the person who signed the permit form is referring to the correct development, right? No, but what I'm saying is if they if they put no in here that they didn't provide forms. Oh, I thought you were talking about the name. Sorry. But then they did provide forms. So they put the wrong answer in there. Yeah. They put the wrong answer in there, but they do provide the forms. We're going to score. We're going to score it. Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Check to see if they put anything in 12. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And then the next thing that we need to check is the location. So if you flip over to page nine, we ask that the applicants provide latitude and longitude points for their development. It's part of the proximity scoring process, which is, you know, it's not a point value that's actually applied to their score, their application score. It's just determining. It's just a tiebreaker. Okay. So this is how you'll determine whether or not the location information that they provided on their form is accurate. So with the latitude and longitude point of development location point number one, this should be their main parcel that should also be listed on the form. You'll want to, you know, either type or copy and paste the latitude and longitude points into the Google Earth search bar, you know, separated by a comma. Once you hit enter, it should take you to the exact spot. And then sort of to mark your place, you place a pin where that latitude and longitude point went. And we have a, we have a guide for this. I think we provide, we, it's available to the applicants as well. The guide for how to place a pin in Google Earth and all that. So once you place a pin on their latitude and longitude point, then you take the information that they provided in their form, whether it be an address or I believe they provide an intersection. So you take that information, the development location line, you put that into Google Earth, see where it takes you. And it should be pointing to roughly the same location. And when I say roughly the same location, I mean like a, like a parcel. So for each individual parcel that they have, they need to provide this information. So does everyone have access to Google Earth? So if it takes you, you know, two miles away, you know, or it's just kind of nowhere near where the development should be. Right. Then that's kind of not accurate information and the city official might not, or the local government official might not have had the correct location information. Any questions on that? I know that it's kind of difficult to think about doing it when we don't have Google Earth up, but we do have a guide and, you know, we can always reach out to us if you need any assistance with that. Are we coming together as a committee to do these or are we doing them separately? You're going to be doing these individually, all by yourselves. And then the only time we're going to reconvene is during that evaluation committee. That's where you're going to give your scores and your reason on why you gave them that score, which they seem to have a pretty well broken down for you. But there's going to be no, I guess, convening between the committee members themselves. I did have a question. Sure. If we can go back to page seven of the, we're doing the NOFA application form. You mentioned something about the number three there, that general contractor. Could you explain a little bit more on what the requirement is for the GC? Oh, sure. Yeah. We just ask that they have identified a qualified contractor so that they, it's basically saying, you know, you know, we're going to do some work. Yeah. It's like their development team. Yeah. So for the large NOFA, for example, you know, we asked for a little bit more that they might have a schedule of values, which they would have already engaged a general contractor and gotten pricing from the general contractor on the project. But since these are small and they might not have, you know, as much experience with this, we just ask that they've done a little bit of research and look for a licensed general contractor that could provide these services to them. Can I just a follow up question? Yeah. It's not required that they have one. And if it changes after, is that allowable? That's fine. Yeah. So it's just that they've done some research and identified one. Yeah. That's why it's a point item, right? It's like an extra, like, oh, you went out and you looked at a general contractor. But if they don't provide one, they're still eligible for funding. They just won't receive those points. Yeah. If they name a GC, you're going to have to check to make sure that they're licensed, right? Yeah. Or they won't get the points for that. And it's not disbarred from doing work with federal funds. Yeah, correct. That's why I asked. And that check will be done by procurement. Yeah. Well, no, it's Joe. But when I was checking it out, it's not part of the minimum requirement to submit a license upon submission. Okay. Sometimes you see, I would say the majority of the time, we would ask for that up front. And that's kind of why I just wanted some clarity. This is good. This is good. So can the R&T can do it as part of the threshold, right? Okay. I don't know. Just saying. Yeah. Yeah. I would suggest that rather than because right now, there's no section for where that happened for the vendors to submit the GC for me to see it. So I would have to go and request it. But since you'll be looking at these documents, then I think that would make more sense. That makes sense. Okay. So we can do it in the threshold check that we're doing. Make sure they're licensed. Make sure they're not disbarred on sound. Yep. And then provide that information if we identify any of them. Right. They would be eligible for a score from that point. Yeah. Yes. And then the committee to check on those categories is just secondary. Correct. Yep. And how is that information relayed to the committee? They wouldn't make it to them. They just wouldn't make it to them. They wouldn't make it to them. Yeah. Because they wouldn't pass the minimum threshold edit. Gotcha. Well, this is a point item. So they don't have, it wouldn't be a per se threshold item. Correct, Zoe? Right. Well, that's where I'm getting confused because you're saying that the committee won't even see the vendor if they don't submit the GC. But I'm also hearing that it's just a point item. So I just kind of want some clarity there. It is a point value. So I think what we would do even on a part, or sorry. So they have to have it. So the committee does get it. So Joe, can we provide a note to the committee upon a threshold review saying on this application, this GC has gone to barred and has an active license? This GC passes the threshold and can be scored. But I'd be able to share that as the committee chair as when we're reviewing that application. That note. They can. Can we color code? I don't think it's necessary. We can color code. I think it would be more important for you guys just to say that the name has been vetted. Right. I mean, for us, if we're just looking at the point of it, I just wanted to make sure that they were being vetted and they weren't disbarred because at that point you should be telling the applicant that their GC can't do the work and you need to go find another GC. Not that you can't be scored. Perfect. I just want to clear that up for the record. Can it be like a pass or fail? They pass or fail. They fail color code. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We can do that. And that just determines, all right, they're going to get the points or they're not going to get the points, but you guys will still see that suspension. Okay. All right. Thank you. That's that's why the I am. We have any anything else? I would like to be able to share just the overall rule for the silence. Thank you, Andrea. I was going to ask that. Yes. Yeah. 100%. Can I ask one more question before we get to that? Sure. Just make sure I'm understanding the latitude and longitude part of it. Yeah. This is not a part of the scoring part. This is an additional for if they have a tie. But we all have to look at that too, correct? Did I understand that when you were saying that? Or is this part of the scoring here, the project readiness? Oh, sorry. Yeah. No. So it's weird. It's like that is being spurred for two things at the same time. Yeah. You'll be looking at the latitude and longitude coordinates to determine if their permit form is correct. Yeah. We're determining the quote-unquote proximity score that only determines whether or not like that only comes in as a tiebreaker, which is not like their formal application score. It's just used to help kind of... So you've got to be doing that now. That's all we're doing is making sure that this matches the permit. Yes. All right. And what we'll be doing really is just ensuring that the score that's calculated in the application form was calculated correctly and that the information that they've provided is correct. You know, part of that pressure. So we're just making sure that the location they identified is accurate. That's it. To what they provided in the form. Yes. Okay. Great. Sorry. Thank you. Yeah. Just a final reminder. As we, you know, as we're doing this right now, this meeting and it's recorded, publicly held, it's kind of the same thing with that evaluation committee meeting. Same exact situation where we're all going to meet, you know, on the given day. We're going to have a recording. It's going to be publicly noticed, publicly held, and this is all under the sunshine law. So what this means for all the committee members is all of this scoring. If you guys have any sorts of questions about it, come to procurement and then we're going to get you set up with BDO and then they can answer your questions. But the reason that we do this is so that way if, you know, one person has a question, we can get that, you know, answered for the whole committee. This also has to do with all the vendors that are proposing. So if the vendors come and reach out to you, sorry, we can't talk about this project. We're under the cone of silence. So this is going to, this cone of silence is going to be through the duration of even the evaluation committee meeting until, you know, we post the recommendation for award, the notice of intent to recommend award. And that's going to be, you know, out there for five days as a protest period till that five days is up. We can't talk to each other about the scores. We can't talk to the vendors about the scores. Everything needs to come through procurement and that's going to be posted publicly. So everybody is informed. So that's just a brief overview, but please go ahead and look at the cone of silence and read if you want some more information to make sure that you're not breaking any sort of rules. So we have this in place. It's all for transparency, really. It's not out there to withhold information. It's out there to provide information to all the parties of interest. So thank you for asking that. I hope that cleared it up a little bit. It's out with the procurement. No conversation, no written, no email, no text, no calls, nothing. Any communication you want to have regarding this, your role on the committee has to go through procurement. So last time I did it, I was with Ethan and we went through the chief chat. That's totally fine. It's very conversational and informal, but it does require that everything have a footprint of how you're, what you're asking about. But thank you. Yeah. And it's a good reminder for additional clarity. I'm Logan. I'm the buyer of record. Well, this is out on the street. So I'm handling all the unit stuff. And if questions come in, I'm the one that's going to you guys and asking and then responding. So I'm kind of the filter for now. Joe's the buyer for the eval. So you guys are going to deal with him a lot more because right now I think we're pretty sparse on questions. But, and the Q and a period is already over, but sometimes vendors will ask questions after. And if they're worth answering, it may call for an addendum because rather than avoiding their question and running into it later, we want to get that address. So all the applications are good. So, but that's why we're both here is because I'm kind of the buyer for right now. And then Joe is going to handle all the eval stuff. Yeah. Thanks for clearing that up. So if you have any questions while it's open, you can come to me. My info is on the meeting and stuff. And then once it closes, Joe takes over everything. That makes sense. And does the responsiveness check? And then I'll set up the meeting and I'll reach out to you all individually on when that meeting is going to be held and we can go from there. But before I close it out, do we have anything else? I do. Yeah. So some people are new to doing this. I want to make sure the process in between this and or when it closes out and to the committee, everybody understand, aren't there forms that they'll have to complete in unit as part of the committee and have access? So this isn't our pre-evaluation meeting. I will schedule another meeting for us all to meet. This one will be, you know, virtual on teams. And I'm going to go through everything that we're looking for because there is the disclosure agreement to make sure you don't have any conflicts of interest and things of that nature. So we'll talk about that at another meeting and then we'll have that evaluation committee. Okay. Thank you for clearing that up too. That way everybody's on the same page. All right. Well, proposers, please monitor Yuna for future updates related to this solicitation. There's nothing else that will conclude the committee meeting training for RFP 26. 00365 CDBG DR, Notice of Funding Availability for Small Multifamily Rehabilitation Projects. All right, everybody. Have a great day. I just stopped the recording. I just stopped the recording. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.