evening and welcome to the April 2nd, 2026 City Commission meeting. I'm going to call the meeting evening and welcome to the April 2nd, 2026 City Commission meeting. I'm going to call the meeting evening and welcome to the April 2nd, 2026 City Commission meeting. I'm going to call the meeting evening and welcome to the April 2nd, 2026 City Commission meeting. I'm going to call the meeting evening and welcome to the April 2nd, 2026 City Commission meeting. I'm going to call the meeting to order. We're going to start with invocation and Pledge of Allegiance by Jen, our city attorney. to order. We're going to start with invocation and Pledge of Allegiance by Jen, our city attorney. to order. We're going to start with invocation and Pledge of Allegiance by Jen, our city attorney. to order. We're going to start with invocation and Pledge of Allegiance by Jen, our city attorney. to order. We're going to start with invocation and Pledge of Allegiance by Jen, our city attorney.
Let us begin this meeting by taking a brief moment of silence and reflection Let us begin this meeting by taking a brief moment of silence and reflection Let us begin this meeting by taking a brief moment of silence and reflection Let us begin this meeting by taking a brief moment of silence and reflection Let us begin this meeting by taking a brief moment of silence and reflection and lend our thoughts to Peter Kruzinger on his recovery. Amen. I pledge allegiance. and lend our thoughts to Peter Kruzinger on his recovery. Amen. I pledge allegiance. and lend our thoughts to Peter Kruzinger on his recovery. Amen. I pledge allegiance. and lend our thoughts to Peter Kruzinger on his recovery. Amen. I pledge allegiance. and lend our thoughts to Peter Kruzinger on his recovery. Amen. I pledge allegiance.
States of America, the public, the world stands, one nation. Okay, we've got a few presentations States of America, the public, the world stands, one nation. Okay, we've got a few presentations States of America, the public, the world stands, one nation. Okay, we've got a few presentations States of America, the public, the world stands, one nation. Okay, we've got a few presentations States of America, the public, the world stands, one nation. Okay, we've got a few presentations here tonight. We're going to, obviously, it's a dead giveaway that we're all in kilts for the here tonight. We're going to, obviously, it's a dead giveaway that we're all in kilts for the here tonight. We're going to, obviously, it's a dead giveaway that we're all in kilts for the here tonight. We're going to, obviously, it's a dead giveaway that we're all in kilts for the here tonight. We're going to, obviously, it's a dead giveaway that we're all in kilts for the first one. 58th Highland Games and Festival Week proclamation. I will turn over to our first one. 58th Highland Games and Festival Week proclamation. I will turn over to our first one. 58th Highland Games and Festival Week proclamation. I will turn over to our first one. 58th Highland Games and Festival Week proclamation. I will turn over to our first one. 58th Highland Games and Festival Week proclamation. I will turn over to our Scottish liaison, none other than Commissioner Gow. I love this time of year. Wonderful, wonderful. Scottish liaison, none other than Commissioner Gow. I love this time of year. Wonderful, wonderful. Scottish liaison, none other than Commissioner Gow. I love this time of year. Wonderful, wonderful. Scottish liaison, none other than Commissioner Gow. I love this time of year. Wonderful, wonderful. Scottish liaison, none other than Commissioner Gow. I love this time of year. Wonderful, wonderful.
I would like to call forward Mark Brandmeier. Would you come forward, please? And you may invite anyone I would like to call forward Mark Brandmeier. Would you come forward, please? And you may invite anyone I would like to call forward Mark Brandmeier. Would you come forward, please? And you may invite anyone I would like to call forward Mark Brandmeier. Would you come forward, please? And you may invite anyone I would like to call forward Mark Brandmeier. Would you come forward, please? And you may invite anyone
you would like to come with you. That's up to you. Yeah. Very excited. Oh, gentlemen. Dang, that's a you would like to come with you. That's up to you. Yeah. Very excited. Oh, gentlemen. Dang, that's a you would like to come with you. That's up to you. Yeah. Very excited. Oh, gentlemen. Dang, that's a you would like to come with you. That's up to you. Yeah. Very excited. Oh, gentlemen. Dang, that's a you would like to come with you. That's up to you. Yeah. Very excited. Oh, gentlemen. Dang, that's a
calendar right there. You guys look so good. Very good. Highland Games and Festival Week. calendar right there. You guys look so good. Very good. Highland Games and Festival Week. calendar right there. You guys look so good. Very good. Highland Games and Festival Week. calendar right there. You guys look so good. Very good. Highland Games and Festival Week. calendar right there. You guys look so good. Very good. Highland Games and Festival Week. Whereas, in 1899, Scottish families settled in what is now known as the City of Dunedin. Whereas, in 1899, Scottish families settled in what is now known as the City of Dunedin. Whereas, in 1899, Scottish families settled in what is now known as the City of Dunedin. Whereas, in 1899, Scottish families settled in what is now known as the City of Dunedin. Whereas, in 1899, Scottish families settled in what is now known as the City of Dunedin. Whereas, pleasant reminders of our Scottish heritage continue throughout the naming of Whereas, pleasant reminders of our Scottish heritage continue throughout the naming of Whereas, pleasant reminders of our Scottish heritage continue throughout the naming of Whereas, pleasant reminders of our Scottish heritage continue throughout the naming of Whereas, pleasant reminders of our Scottish heritage continue throughout the naming of our schools, shopping centers, streets, and buildings. And in 1967, the Highland Games were our schools, shopping centers, streets, and buildings. And in 1967, the Highland Games were our schools, shopping centers, streets, and buildings. And in 1967, the Highland Games were our schools, shopping centers, streets, and buildings. And in 1967, the Highland Games were our schools, shopping centers, streets, and buildings. And in 1967, the Highland Games were implemented to raise funds to support the three Scottish pipe bands of Dunedin. The City of implemented to raise funds to support the three Scottish pipe bands of Dunedin. The City of implemented to raise funds to support the three Scottish pipe bands of Dunedin. The City of implemented to raise funds to support the three Scottish pipe bands of Dunedin. The City of implemented to raise funds to support the three Scottish pipe bands of Dunedin. The City of Dunedin Pipe Band, the Dunedin High School Scottish Highlander Band, and the Dunedin Highland Dunedin Pipe Band, the Dunedin High School Scottish Highlander Band, and the Dunedin Highland Dunedin Pipe Band, the Dunedin High School Scottish Highlander Band, and the Dunedin Highland Dunedin Pipe Band, the Dunedin High School Scottish Highlander Band, and the Dunedin Highland Dunedin Pipe Band, the Dunedin High School Scottish Highlander Band, and the Dunedin Highland Middle School Band. And our continuing interest in Scottish heritage and customs is further Middle School Band. And our continuing interest in Scottish heritage and customs is further Middle School Band. And our continuing interest in Scottish heritage and customs is further Middle School Band. And our continuing interest in Scottish heritage and customs is further Middle School Band. And our continuing interest in Scottish heritage and customs is further reflected in the authentifically clad bands, professionally trained bagpipers, and Highland reflected in the authentifically clad bands, professionally trained bagpipers, and Highland reflected in the authentifically clad bands, professionally trained bagpipers, and Highland reflected in the authentifically clad bands, professionally trained bagpipers, and Highland reflected in the authentifically clad bands, professionally trained bagpipers, and Highland dancers and athletes. And whereas in this year's 58th annual Highland Games and Festival, we continue dancers and athletes. And whereas in this year's 58th annual Highland Games and Festival, we continue dancers and athletes. And whereas in this year's 58th annual Highland Games and Festival, we continue dancers and athletes. And whereas in this year's 58th annual Highland Games and Festival, we continue dancers and athletes. And whereas in this year's 58th annual Highland Games and Festival, we continue to pay tribute to our Scottish origin. And whereas we also pay tribute to this year's Honorary Chieftain to pay tribute to our Scottish origin. And whereas we also pay tribute to this year's Honorary Chieftain to pay tribute to our Scottish origin. And whereas we also pay tribute to this year's Honorary Chieftain to pay tribute to our Scottish origin. And whereas we also pay tribute to this year's Honorary Chieftain to pay tribute to our Scottish origin. And whereas we also pay tribute to this year's Honorary Chieftain for 2026, Mark Brandmeier. Thank you very much. We're not done yet. Oh. Now, therefore, I, for 2026, Mark Brandmeier. Thank you very much. We're not done yet. Oh. Now, therefore, I, for 2026, Mark Brandmeier. Thank you very much. We're not done yet. Oh. Now, therefore, I, for 2026, Mark Brandmeier. Thank you very much. We're not done yet. Oh. Now, therefore, I, for 2026, Mark Brandmeier. Thank you very much. We're not done yet. Oh. Now, therefore, I, Jeff Gow, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the Mayor of the City of Dunedin, Jeff Gow, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the Mayor of the City of Dunedin, Jeff Gow, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the Mayor of the City of Dunedin, Jeff Gow, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the Mayor of the City of Dunedin, Jeff Gow, by the virtue of the authority vested in me by the Mayor of the City of Dunedin, and on behalf of this entire City Commission and Gallery, do hereby recognize the 58th annual and on behalf of this entire City Commission and Gallery, do hereby recognize the 58th annual and on behalf of this entire City Commission and Gallery, do hereby recognize the 58th annual and on behalf of this entire City Commission and Gallery, do hereby recognize the 58th annual and on behalf of this entire City Commission and Gallery, do hereby recognize the 58th annual Highland Games and Festival Week, commencing on April 10th, Friday, April 10th, with the pipe bands Highland Games and Festival Week, commencing on April 10th, Friday, April 10th, with the pipe bands Highland Games and Festival Week, commencing on April 10th, Friday, April 10th, with the pipe bands Highland Games and Festival Week, commencing on April 10th, Friday, April 10th, with the pipe bands Highland Games and Festival Week, commencing on April 10th, Friday, April 10th, with the pipe bands march down through downtown Dunedin along Main Street and ending at John R. Lawrence Pioneer Park march down through downtown Dunedin along Main Street and ending at John R. Lawrence Pioneer Park march down through downtown Dunedin along Main Street and ending at John R. Lawrence Pioneer Park march down through downtown Dunedin along Main Street and ending at John R. Lawrence Pioneer Park march down through downtown Dunedin along Main Street and ending at John R. Lawrence Pioneer Park for a festival and gathering. The Highland Games will then take place on Saturday, April 11th, for a festival and gathering. The Highland Games will then take place on Saturday, April 11th, for a festival and gathering. The Highland Games will then take place on Saturday, April 11th, for a festival and gathering. The Highland Games will then take place on Saturday, April 11th, for a festival and gathering. The Highland Games will then take place on Saturday, April 11th, at Highlander Park. We encourage all citizens to participate in the many activities planned at Highlander Park. We encourage all citizens to participate in the many activities planned at Highlander Park. We encourage all citizens to participate in the many activities planned at Highlander Park. We encourage all citizens to participate in the many activities planned at Highlander Park. We encourage all citizens to participate in the many activities planned for this very special tradition and occasion. And I'm going to take this one down. for this very special tradition and occasion. And I'm going to take this one down. for this very special tradition and occasion. And I'm going to take this one down. for this very special tradition and occasion. And I'm going to take this one down. for this very special tradition and occasion. And I'm going to take this one down.
I'm glad you didn't give up any dirt. Okay. Oh, is it my turn now? Well, thank you very much. I'm very humbled I'm glad you didn't give up any dirt. Okay. Oh, is it my turn now? Well, thank you very much. I'm very humbled I'm glad you didn't give up any dirt. Okay. Oh, is it my turn now? Well, thank you very much. I'm very humbled I'm glad you didn't give up any dirt. Okay. Oh, is it my turn now? Well, thank you very much. I'm very humbled I'm glad you didn't give up any dirt. Okay. Oh, is it my turn now? Well, thank you very much. I'm very humbled to be here, and it was a very super pleasant surprise to have this job. I've been doing this for a long to be here, and it was a very super pleasant surprise to have this job. I've been doing this for a long to be here, and it was a very super pleasant surprise to have this job. I've been doing this for a long to be here, and it was a very super pleasant surprise to have this job. I've been doing this for a long to be here, and it was a very super pleasant surprise to have this job. I've been doing this for a long time. I love the city. It's a great place to live. Been here for a while. Raise the kids here. It's a perfect time. I love the city. It's a great place to live. Been here for a while. Raise the kids here. It's a perfect time. I love the city. It's a great place to live. Been here for a while. Raise the kids here. It's a perfect time. I love the city. It's a great place to live. Been here for a while. Raise the kids here. It's a perfect time. I love the city. It's a great place to live. Been here for a while. Raise the kids here. It's a perfect place to raise a family. And the pipe band has gotten so many friends through all those activities, place to raise a family. And the pipe band has gotten so many friends through all those activities, place to raise a family. And the pipe band has gotten so many friends through all those activities, place to raise a family. And the pipe band has gotten so many friends through all those activities, place to raise a family. And the pipe band has gotten so many friends through all those activities, through the schools and through the DPB afterwards. It's just really nice. So I'm honored to represent through the schools and through the DPB afterwards. It's just really nice. So I'm honored to represent through the schools and through the DPB afterwards. It's just really nice. So I'm honored to represent through the schools and through the DPB afterwards. It's just really nice. So I'm honored to represent through the schools and through the DPB afterwards. It's just really nice. So I'm honored to represent that, and the city is great. It really is a nice place. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Just a statement that, and the city is great. It really is a nice place. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Just a statement that, and the city is great. It really is a nice place. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Just a statement that, and the city is great. It really is a nice place. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Just a statement that, and the city is great. It really is a nice place. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Just a statement
that the city bands and the school bands and students, lots of beginners this year, are all that the city bands and the school bands and students, lots of beginners this year, are all that the city bands and the school bands and students, lots of beginners this year, are all that the city bands and the school bands and students, lots of beginners this year, are all that the city bands and the school bands and students, lots of beginners this year, are all very excited and working hard for the competition. We're just shy of 150 soloists competing at very excited and working hard for the competition. We're just shy of 150 soloists competing at very excited and working hard for the competition. We're just shy of 150 soloists competing at very excited and working hard for the competition. We're just shy of 150 soloists competing at very excited and working hard for the competition. We're just shy of 150 soloists competing at Dunedin Highland Games, so it's going to be a wonderful day. So thank you very much for all Dunedin Highland Games, so it's going to be a wonderful day. So thank you very much for all Dunedin Highland Games, so it's going to be a wonderful day. So thank you very much for all Dunedin Highland Games, so it's going to be a wonderful day. So thank you very much for all Dunedin Highland Games, so it's going to be a wonderful day. So thank you very much for all
your support and volunteers. We are looking forward to a fantastic event. I'm pretty excited your support and volunteers. We are looking forward to a fantastic event. I'm pretty excited your support and volunteers. We are looking forward to a fantastic event. I'm pretty excited your support and volunteers. We are looking forward to a fantastic event. I'm pretty excited your support and volunteers. We are looking forward to a fantastic event. I'm pretty excited that we've confirmed this week that I believe all commissioners and mayor, city manager, as that we've confirmed this week that I believe all commissioners and mayor, city manager, as that we've confirmed this week that I believe all commissioners and mayor, city manager, as that we've confirmed this week that I believe all commissioners and mayor, city manager, as that we've confirmed this week that I believe all commissioners and mayor, city manager, as well as administration from both our middle school and high school and superintendent of well as administration from both our middle school and high school and superintendent of well as administration from both our middle school and high school and superintendent of well as administration from both our middle school and high school and superintendent of well as administration from both our middle school and high school and superintendent of Pinellas County Schools are all going to be in attendance at the Highland Games. It's kind Pinellas County Schools are all going to be in attendance at the Highland Games. It's kind Pinellas County Schools are all going to be in attendance at the Highland Games. It's kind Pinellas County Schools are all going to be in attendance at the Highland Games. It's kind Pinellas County Schools are all going to be in attendance at the Highland Games. It's kind of cool. I don't know of that many events in Dunedin where all those aspects of the community of cool. I don't know of that many events in Dunedin where all those aspects of the community of cool. I don't know of that many events in Dunedin where all those aspects of the community of cool. I don't know of that many events in Dunedin where all those aspects of the community of cool. I don't know of that many events in Dunedin where all those aspects of the community come together in support of our community, arts, culture, music, history, and tradition, but we are come together in support of our community, arts, culture, music, history, and tradition, but we are come together in support of our community, arts, culture, music, history, and tradition, but we are come together in support of our community, arts, culture, music, history, and tradition, but we are come together in support of our community, arts, culture, music, history, and tradition, but we are delighted that the Dunedin Games is that event. It takes a village for sure. We have hundreds of delighted that the Dunedin Games is that event. It takes a village for sure. We have hundreds of delighted that the Dunedin Games is that event. It takes a village for sure. We have hundreds of delighted that the Dunedin Games is that event. It takes a village for sure. We have hundreds of delighted that the Dunedin Games is that event. It takes a village for sure. We have hundreds of volunteers who have come forward to help us, which we are incredibly appreciative of. And if you have, volunteers who have come forward to help us, which we are incredibly appreciative of. And if you have, volunteers who have come forward to help us, which we are incredibly appreciative of. And if you have, volunteers who have come forward to help us, which we are incredibly appreciative of. And if you have, volunteers who have come forward to help us, which we are incredibly appreciative of. And if you have, if anyone in here hasn't signed up to volunteer yet and you would like to help us, there are a few spots if anyone in here hasn't signed up to volunteer yet and you would like to help us, there are a few spots if anyone in here hasn't signed up to volunteer yet and you would like to help us, there are a few spots if anyone in here hasn't signed up to volunteer yet and you would like to help us, there are a few spots if anyone in here hasn't signed up to volunteer yet and you would like to help us, there are a few spots still available and we will gladly accept your donation of time. Dunedinhighlandgames.com, that's still available and we will gladly accept your donation of time. Dunedinhighlandgames.com, that's still available and we will gladly accept your donation of time. Dunedinhighlandgames.com, that's still available and we will gladly accept your donation of time. Dunedinhighlandgames.com, that's still available and we will gladly accept your donation of time. Dunedinhighlandgames.com, that's correct. And finally, we are really excited. Attendance should be beautiful. The weather looks like it's correct. And finally, we are really excited. Attendance should be beautiful. The weather looks like it's correct. And finally, we are really excited. Attendance should be beautiful. The weather looks like it's correct. And finally, we are really excited. Attendance should be beautiful. The weather looks like it's correct. And finally, we are really excited. Attendance should be beautiful. The weather looks like it's going to be a fantastic day. It's always a good sign when every weather app on your phone has an going to be a fantastic day. It's always a good sign when every weather app on your phone has an going to be a fantastic day. It's always a good sign when every weather app on your phone has an going to be a fantastic day. It's always a good sign when every weather app on your phone has an going to be a fantastic day. It's always a good sign when every weather app on your phone has an agreement on the forecast. That's a good thing. I am pleased to share that by the time we get to agreement on the forecast. That's a good thing. I am pleased to share that by the time we get to agreement on the forecast. That's a good thing. I am pleased to share that by the time we get to agreement on the forecast. That's a good thing. I am pleased to share that by the time we get to agreement on the forecast. That's a good thing. I am pleased to share that by the time we get to next Saturday, in the last 12 months, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation will have invested next Saturday, in the last 12 months, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation will have invested next Saturday, in the last 12 months, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation will have invested next Saturday, in the last 12 months, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation will have invested next Saturday, in the last 12 months, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation will have invested around $140,000 in marketing to welcome visitors from all over North America to Dunedin and to attend around $140,000 in marketing to welcome visitors from all over North America to Dunedin and to attend around $140,000 in marketing to welcome visitors from all over North America to Dunedin and to attend around $140,000 in marketing to welcome visitors from all over North America to Dunedin and to attend around $140,000 in marketing to welcome visitors from all over North America to Dunedin and to attend our events at the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, which I think makes us the largest marketer of our events at the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, which I think makes us the largest marketer of our events at the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, which I think makes us the largest marketer of our events at the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, which I think makes us the largest marketer of our events at the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, which I think makes us the largest marketer of Dunedin in our community. And we're very proud of that. So we're excited about that. Ticket sales Dunedin in our community. And we're very proud of that. So we're excited about that. Ticket sales Dunedin in our community. And we're very proud of that. So we're excited about that. Ticket sales Dunedin in our community. And we're very proud of that. So we're excited about that. Ticket sales Dunedin in our community. And we're very proud of that. So we're excited about that. Ticket sales have been very strong. I'm told that our hotels are full. So it should be a booming weekend in have been very strong. I'm told that our hotels are full. So it should be a booming weekend in have been very strong. I'm told that our hotels are full. So it should be a booming weekend in have been very strong. I'm told that our hotels are full. So it should be a booming weekend in have been very strong. I'm told that our hotels are full. So it should be a booming weekend in Dunedin. Thank you. Happy Highland Games. Dunedin. Thank you. Happy Highland Games. Dunedin. Thank you. Happy Highland Games. Dunedin. Thank you. Happy Highland Games. Dunedin. Thank you. Happy Highland Games.
Let's get a picture. Picture. Let's get a picture. Picture. Let's get a picture. Picture. Let's get a picture. Picture. Let's get a picture. Picture.
Thank you. We need pictures. Thank you. We need pictures. Thank you. We need pictures. Thank you. We need pictures. Thank you. We need pictures.
Got to have a picture. Got to have a picture. Got to have a picture. Got to have a picture. Got to have a picture. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. How's that happen if we don't get a picture? How's that happen if we don't get a picture? How's that happen if we don't get a picture? How's that happen if we don't get a picture? How's that happen if we don't get a picture?
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And Mayor, if I may. And Mayor, if I may. And Mayor, if I may. And Mayor, if I may. And Mayor, if I may. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. As they make their way out. As they make their way out. As they make their way out. As they make their way out. As they make their way out. For the passion and the craziness that you think that I have for our Scottish culture and heritage, For the passion and the craziness that you think that I have for our Scottish culture and heritage, For the passion and the craziness that you think that I have for our Scottish culture and heritage, For the passion and the craziness that you think that I have for our Scottish culture and heritage, For the passion and the craziness that you think that I have for our Scottish culture and heritage, it is only equaled, if not second to, the passion that Mark Brandmeier has for the Scottish culture it is only equaled, if not second to, the passion that Mark Brandmeier has for the Scottish culture it is only equaled, if not second to, the passion that Mark Brandmeier has for the Scottish culture it is only equaled, if not second to, the passion that Mark Brandmeier has for the Scottish culture it is only equaled, if not second to, the passion that Mark Brandmeier has for the Scottish culture and heritage and the amount of time, effort, passion, raising two girls in the pipe bands and heritage and the amount of time, effort, passion, raising two girls in the pipe bands and heritage and the amount of time, effort, passion, raising two girls in the pipe bands and heritage and the amount of time, effort, passion, raising two girls in the pipe bands and heritage and the amount of time, effort, passion, raising two girls in the pipe bands and the Scottish community and soccer. And that's where we kind of connected with Chelsea and the Scottish community and soccer. And that's where we kind of connected with Chelsea and the Scottish community and soccer. And that's where we kind of connected with Chelsea and the Scottish community and soccer. And that's where we kind of connected with Chelsea and the Scottish community and soccer. And that's where we kind of connected with Chelsea and Lindsay and his two girls. And so it's just been a lifetime of working together with this and Lindsay and his two girls. And so it's just been a lifetime of working together with this and Lindsay and his two girls. And so it's just been a lifetime of working together with this and Lindsay and his two girls. And so it's just been a lifetime of working together with this and Lindsay and his two girls. And so it's just been a lifetime of working together with this Scottish culture heritage. And it's just, I can't be any more proud. Scottish culture heritage. And it's just, I can't be any more proud. Scottish culture heritage. And it's just, I can't be any more proud. Scottish culture heritage. And it's just, I can't be any more proud. Scottish culture heritage. And it's just, I can't be any more proud. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark.
Trying to make us cry up here? Trying to make us cry up here? Trying to make us cry up here? Trying to make us cry up here? Trying to make us cry up here? Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. And congratulations, Mark. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. And congratulations, Mark. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. And congratulations, Mark. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. And congratulations, Mark. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff. And congratulations, Mark. Okay. We're going to go to presentation of the 2026 Dunedin Mardi Gras Celebration Parade winners. Okay. We're going to go to presentation of the 2026 Dunedin Mardi Gras Celebration Parade winners. Okay. We're going to go to presentation of the 2026 Dunedin Mardi Gras Celebration Parade winners. Okay. We're going to go to presentation of the 2026 Dunedin Mardi Gras Celebration Parade winners. Okay. We're going to go to presentation of the 2026 Dunedin Mardi Gras Celebration Parade winners. And I think Alicia and Jory are coming up and Jeanette Donahue's in there somewhere. And I think Alicia and Jory are coming up and Jeanette Donahue's in there somewhere. And I think Alicia and Jory are coming up and Jeanette Donahue's in there somewhere. And I think Alicia and Jory are coming up and Jeanette Donahue's in there somewhere. And I think Alicia and Jory are coming up and Jeanette Donahue's in there somewhere. And Danielle's coming up. And Danielle's coming up. And Danielle's coming up. And Danielle's coming up. And Danielle's coming up.
We're all coming up. We're all coming up. We're all coming up. We're all coming up. We're all coming up.
You're all coming up. You're all coming up. You're all coming up. You're all coming up. You're all coming up.
Good evening, Mayor and City Commission. Good evening, Mayor and City Commission. Good evening, Mayor and City Commission. Good evening, Mayor and City Commission. Good evening, Mayor and City Commission. My name is Alicia, Program Coordinator for Recreation. My name is Alicia, Program Coordinator for Recreation. My name is Alicia, Program Coordinator for Recreation. My name is Alicia, Program Coordinator for Recreation. My name is Alicia, Program Coordinator for Recreation. With me is Jeanette Donahue, the President of the Chamber of Commerce. With me is Jeanette Donahue, the President of the Chamber of Commerce. With me is Jeanette Donahue, the President of the Chamber of Commerce. With me is Jeanette Donahue, the President of the Chamber of Commerce. With me is Jeanette Donahue, the President of the Chamber of Commerce. I also have Jory Peterson, Program Coordinator for Special Events. I also have Jory Peterson, Program Coordinator for Special Events. I also have Jory Peterson, Program Coordinator for Special Events. I also have Jory Peterson, Program Coordinator for Special Events. I also have Jory Peterson, Program Coordinator for Special Events. And then I also have Danielle Edwards, also with Special Events. And then I also have Danielle Edwards, also with Special Events. And then I also have Danielle Edwards, also with Special Events. And then I also have Danielle Edwards, also with Special Events. And then I also have Danielle Edwards, also with Special Events. Okay, where was I? Okay, where was I? Okay, where was I? Okay, where was I? Okay, where was I? This year, the City of Dunedin collaborated with the Chamber to host the Mardi Gras event This year, the City of Dunedin collaborated with the Chamber to host the Mardi Gras event This year, the City of Dunedin collaborated with the Chamber to host the Mardi Gras event This year, the City of Dunedin collaborated with the Chamber to host the Mardi Gras event This year, the City of Dunedin collaborated with the Chamber to host the Mardi Gras event and parade on February 17, 2026. and parade on February 17, 2026. and parade on February 17, 2026. and parade on February 17, 2026. and parade on February 17, 2026. This year, we had 47 units in the parade. This year, we had 47 units in the parade. This year, we had 47 units in the parade. This year, we had 47 units in the parade. This year, we had 47 units in the parade. The max capacity was 50, so we did pretty good. The max capacity was 50, so we did pretty good. The max capacity was 50, so we did pretty good. The max capacity was 50, so we did pretty good. The max capacity was 50, so we did pretty good. Our King is Isaac Bwazilovsky. Our King is Isaac Bwazilovsky. Our King is Isaac Bwazilovsky. Our King is Isaac Bwazilovsky. Our King is Isaac Bwazilovsky. And Queen is Alice Marie Grip. And Queen is Alice Marie Grip. And Queen is Alice Marie Grip. And Queen is Alice Marie Grip. And Queen is Alice Marie Grip. The parade was successful because of many people who gave their time, talents, and energy. The parade was successful because of many people who gave their time, talents, and energy. The parade was successful because of many people who gave their time, talents, and energy. The parade was successful because of many people who gave their time, talents, and energy. The parade was successful because of many people who gave their time, talents, and energy. The Mardi Gras Parade Committee was myself, Stephanie Kinsinger, The Mardi Gras Parade Committee was myself, Stephanie Kinsinger, The Mardi Gras Parade Committee was myself, Stephanie Kinsinger, The Mardi Gras Parade Committee was myself, Stephanie Kinsinger, The Mardi Gras Parade Committee was myself, Stephanie Kinsinger, who is also the head lifeguard at the Highlander Pool, Jory Peterson, and also Danielle Edwards. who is also the head lifeguard at the Highlander Pool, Jory Peterson, and also Danielle Edwards. who is also the head lifeguard at the Highlander Pool, Jory Peterson, and also Danielle Edwards. who is also the head lifeguard at the Highlander Pool, Jory Peterson, and also Danielle Edwards. who is also the head lifeguard at the Highlander Pool, Jory Peterson, and also Danielle Edwards. Without them, we could not make that parade happen. Without them, we could not make that parade happen. Without them, we could not make that parade happen. Without them, we could not make that parade happen. Without them, we could not make that parade happen. So thank you to all of you. So thank you to all of you. So thank you to all of you. So thank you to all of you. So thank you to all of you. The City of Dunedin staff, which is going to be our, obviously, Parks and Recreation Department. The City of Dunedin staff, which is going to be our, obviously, Parks and Recreation Department. The City of Dunedin staff, which is going to be our, obviously, Parks and Recreation Department. The City of Dunedin staff, which is going to be our, obviously, Parks and Recreation Department. The City of Dunedin staff, which is going to be our, obviously, Parks and Recreation Department. Our Parks Department was very integral in the setup and takedown, so it's just hands down for them. Our Parks Department was very integral in the setup and takedown, so it's just hands down for them. Our Parks Department was very integral in the setup and takedown, so it's just hands down for them. Our Parks Department was very integral in the setup and takedown, so it's just hands down for them. Our Parks Department was very integral in the setup and takedown, so it's just hands down for them. Public services, facility, and traffic, our Sheriff's Department, our Fire Department, Engineering Department, and Communications. Public services, facility, and traffic, our Sheriff's Department, our Fire Department, Engineering Department, and Communications. Public services, facility, and traffic, our Sheriff's Department, our Fire Department, Engineering Department, and Communications. Public services, facility, and traffic, our Sheriff's Department, our Fire Department, Engineering Department, and Communications. Public services, facility, and traffic, our Sheriff's Department, our Fire Department, Engineering Department, and Communications. To our volunteers, our VIP drivers who escorted the King and Queen through the parade in style. To our volunteers, our VIP drivers who escorted the King and Queen through the parade in style. To our volunteers, our VIP drivers who escorted the King and Queen through the parade in style. To our volunteers, our VIP drivers who escorted the King and Queen through the parade in style. To our volunteers, our VIP drivers who escorted the King and Queen through the parade in style. To our Jolly Trolley for escorting our Mayor and City Commission through the parade. To our Jolly Trolley for escorting our Mayor and City Commission through the parade. To our Jolly Trolley for escorting our Mayor and City Commission through the parade. To our Jolly Trolley for escorting our Mayor and City Commission through the parade. To our Jolly Trolley for escorting our Mayor and City Commission through the parade. And also, Pfeiffer Auto, who waited in case somebody's vehicle stalled out. And also, Pfeiffer Auto, who waited in case somebody's vehicle stalled out. And also, Pfeiffer Auto, who waited in case somebody's vehicle stalled out. And also, Pfeiffer Auto, who waited in case somebody's vehicle stalled out. And also, Pfeiffer Auto, who waited in case somebody's vehicle stalled out. Which didn't happen, so I'm very excited about that. Which didn't happen, so I'm very excited about that. Which didn't happen, so I'm very excited about that. Which didn't happen, so I'm very excited about that. Which didn't happen, so I'm very excited about that. So now I'm going to turn it over to Ms. Jeanette, and she's going to go over the events. So now I'm going to turn it over to Ms. Jeanette, and she's going to go over the events. So now I'm going to turn it over to Ms. Jeanette, and she's going to go over the events. So now I'm going to turn it over to Ms. Jeanette, and she's going to go over the events. So now I'm going to turn it over to Ms. Jeanette, and she's going to go over the events. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Hi, Mayor. Hi, Mayor. Hi, Mayor. Hi, Mayor. Hi, Mayor. Hi, Commission. Hi, Commission. Hi, Commission. Hi, Commission. Hi, Commission. Jennifer. Jennifer. Jennifer. Jennifer. Jennifer. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. And on behalf of the Chamber staff, myself, Kayla, Vanessa, And on behalf of the Chamber staff, myself, Kayla, Vanessa, And on behalf of the Chamber staff, myself, Kayla, Vanessa, And on behalf of the Chamber staff, myself, Kayla, Vanessa, And on behalf of the Chamber staff, myself, Kayla, Vanessa, I just want to really take a moment to say thank you to the City and to the Commission for allowing us to collaborate, I just want to really take a moment to say thank you to the City and to the Commission for allowing us to collaborate, I just want to really take a moment to say thank you to the City and to the Commission for allowing us to collaborate, I just want to really take a moment to say thank you to the City and to the Commission for allowing us to collaborate, I just want to really take a moment to say thank you to the City and to the Commission for allowing us to collaborate, to put on this great event together, especially our first year. to put on this great event together, especially our first year. to put on this great event together, especially our first year. to put on this great event together, especially our first year. to put on this great event together, especially our first year. And it was a huge success. And it was a huge success. And it was a huge success. And it was a huge success. And it was a huge success. In our first year, we had 67 vendors. In our first year, we had 67 vendors. In our first year, we had 67 vendors. In our first year, we had 67 vendors. In our first year, we had 67 vendors. We had two bands, and we approximated what I sent in all our numbers, about 28,000 people. We had two bands, and we approximated what I sent in all our numbers, about 28,000 people. We had two bands, and we approximated what I sent in all our numbers, about 28,000 people. We had two bands, and we approximated what I sent in all our numbers, about 28,000 people. We had two bands, and we approximated what I sent in all our numbers, about 28,000 people. I'm so grateful that you helped us bring this event to life. I'm so grateful that you helped us bring this event to life. I'm so grateful that you helped us bring this event to life. I'm so grateful that you helped us bring this event to life. I'm so grateful that you helped us bring this event to life. Now I'm going to aspect them in the Oscars, but all my thank yous. Now I'm going to aspect them in the Oscars, but all my thank yous. Now I'm going to aspect them in the Oscars, but all my thank yous. Now I'm going to aspect them in the Oscars, but all my thank yous. Now I'm going to aspect them in the Oscars, but all my thank yous. But a special thank you to Jory and Danielle. But a special thank you to Jory and Danielle. But a special thank you to Jory and Danielle. But a special thank you to Jory and Danielle. But a special thank you to Jory and Danielle. I mean, they were fabulous, and I cannot say that enough. I mean, they were fabulous, and I cannot say that enough. I mean, they were fabulous, and I cannot say that enough. I mean, they were fabulous, and I cannot say that enough. I mean, they were fabulous, and I cannot say that enough. They walked us through everything, gave us maps. They walked us through everything, gave us maps. They walked us through everything, gave us maps. They walked us through everything, gave us maps. They walked us through everything, gave us maps. I mean, 3D maps. I mean, 3D maps. I mean, 3D maps. I mean, 3D maps. I mean, 3D maps. I mean, it was amazing. I mean, it was amazing. I mean, it was amazing. I mean, it was amazing. I mean, it was amazing. I could not thank them enough. I could not thank them enough. I could not thank them enough. I could not thank them enough. I could not thank them enough. Kayla and I really appreciated all the work you guys did. Kayla and I really appreciated all the work you guys did. Kayla and I really appreciated all the work you guys did. Kayla and I really appreciated all the work you guys did. Kayla and I really appreciated all the work you guys did. To, obviously, the Parks and Rec, to the sheriffs, to the firefighters. To, obviously, the Parks and Rec, to the sheriffs, to the firefighters. To, obviously, the Parks and Rec, to the sheriffs, to the firefighters. To, obviously, the Parks and Rec, to the sheriffs, to the firefighters. To, obviously, the Parks and Rec, to the sheriffs, to the firefighters. Everybody that was there was wonderful and so easy to work with. Everybody that was there was wonderful and so easy to work with. Everybody that was there was wonderful and so easy to work with. Everybody that was there was wonderful and so easy to work with. Everybody that was there was wonderful and so easy to work with. And it made it easy that it was a beautiful day. And it made it easy that it was a beautiful day. And it made it easy that it was a beautiful day. And it made it easy that it was a beautiful day. And it made it easy that it was a beautiful day. But on top of that, I also want to get a quick shout-out to Michael Lynn, Andy, and Jason, But on top of that, I also want to get a quick shout-out to Michael Lynn, Andy, and Jason, But on top of that, I also want to get a quick shout-out to Michael Lynn, Andy, and Jason, But on top of that, I also want to get a quick shout-out to Michael Lynn, Andy, and Jason, But on top of that, I also want to get a quick shout-out to Michael Lynn, Andy, and Jason, who are my beer guys. who are my beer guys. who are my beer guys. who are my beer guys. who are my beer guys. And also helped me get new walkie-talkies, tables, cups, and everything in between. And also helped me get new walkie-talkies, tables, cups, and everything in between. And also helped me get new walkie-talkies, tables, cups, and everything in between. And also helped me get new walkie-talkies, tables, cups, and everything in between. And also helped me get new walkie-talkies, tables, cups, and everything in between. And, of course, the beer and wine, which makes this event fun. And, of course, the beer and wine, which makes this event fun. And, of course, the beer and wine, which makes this event fun. And, of course, the beer and wine, which makes this event fun. And, of course, the beer and wine, which makes this event fun. So, finally, thank you to all our amazing volunteers. So, finally, thank you to all our amazing volunteers. So, finally, thank you to all our amazing volunteers. So, finally, thank you to all our amazing volunteers. So, finally, thank you to all our amazing volunteers. This event wouldn't have been possible without them. This event wouldn't have been possible without them. This event wouldn't have been possible without them. This event wouldn't have been possible without them. This event wouldn't have been possible without them. I'm incredibly, incredibly proud to be part of this city. I'm incredibly, incredibly proud to be part of this city. I'm incredibly, incredibly proud to be part of this city. I'm incredibly, incredibly proud to be part of this city. I'm incredibly, incredibly proud to be part of this city. I've been going to Mardi Gras since I was in my early 20s, and I can't imagine not having it. I've been going to Mardi Gras since I was in my early 20s, and I can't imagine not having it. I've been going to Mardi Gras since I was in my early 20s, and I can't imagine not having it. I've been going to Mardi Gras since I was in my early 20s, and I can't imagine not having it. I've been going to Mardi Gras since I was in my early 20s, and I can't imagine not having it. So, thank you for making this possible and for having it be very successful to that. So, thank you for making this possible and for having it be very successful to that. So, thank you for making this possible and for having it be very successful to that. So, thank you for making this possible and for having it be very successful to that. So, thank you for making this possible and for having it be very successful to that. I look forward to next year. I look forward to next year. I look forward to next year. I look forward to next year. I look forward to next year. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I'm budging in real quick. I'm budging in real quick. I'm budging in real quick. I'm budging in real quick. I'm budging in real quick. We didn't bring it tonight, but, Jeanette, I have a gift for you, as well as the parade winners. We didn't bring it tonight, but, Jeanette, I have a gift for you, as well as the parade winners. We didn't bring it tonight, but, Jeanette, I have a gift for you, as well as the parade winners. We didn't bring it tonight, but, Jeanette, I have a gift for you, as well as the parade winners. We didn't bring it tonight, but, Jeanette, I have a gift for you, as well as the parade winners. It will be a nice binder that has all of the information and logistics, It will be a nice binder that has all of the information and logistics, It will be a nice binder that has all of the information and logistics, It will be a nice binder that has all of the information and logistics, It will be a nice binder that has all of the information and logistics, and we'll be ready to hand it right over to you for next year. and we'll be ready to hand it right over to you for next year. and we'll be ready to hand it right over to you for next year. and we'll be ready to hand it right over to you for next year. and we'll be ready to hand it right over to you for next year. I'm not going to take it yet. I'm not going to take it yet. I'm not going to take it yet. I'm not going to take it yet. I'm not going to take it yet. But, anyway, we received a very, very nice email from John Freeborn, and I failed to respond to it. But, anyway, we received a very, very nice email from John Freeborn, and I failed to respond to it. But, anyway, we received a very, very nice email from John Freeborn, and I failed to respond to it. But, anyway, we received a very, very nice email from John Freeborn, and I failed to respond to it. But, anyway, we received a very, very nice email from John Freeborn, and I failed to respond to it. So, I'm going to read it, because we don't often get to toot our own horns. So, I'm going to read it, because we don't often get to toot our own horns. So, I'm going to read it, because we don't often get to toot our own horns. So, I'm going to read it, because we don't often get to toot our own horns. So, I'm going to read it, because we don't often get to toot our own horns. And I just want to introduce, again, she calls her my better half. And I just want to introduce, again, she calls her my better half. And I just want to introduce, again, she calls her my better half. And I just want to introduce, again, she calls her my better half. And I just want to introduce, again, she calls her my better half. I call her my sidekick. I call her my sidekick. I call her my sidekick. I call her my sidekick. I call her my sidekick. But, John Freeborn said, on behalf of our chamber staff members and board of directors, But, John Freeborn said, on behalf of our chamber staff members and board of directors, But, John Freeborn said, on behalf of our chamber staff members and board of directors, But, John Freeborn said, on behalf of our chamber staff members and board of directors, But, John Freeborn said, on behalf of our chamber staff members and board of directors, we want to thank you for your incredible job you did with the Mardi Gras event. we want to thank you for your incredible job you did with the Mardi Gras event. we want to thank you for your incredible job you did with the Mardi Gras event. we want to thank you for your incredible job you did with the Mardi Gras event. we want to thank you for your incredible job you did with the Mardi Gras event. Your partnership, contributions, coordination, organization, and timelessness Your partnership, contributions, coordination, organization, and timelessness Your partnership, contributions, coordination, organization, and timelessness Your partnership, contributions, coordination, organization, and timelessness Your partnership, contributions, coordination, organization, and timelessness once again positioned Dunedin as a leader among cities and communities. once again positioned Dunedin as a leader among cities and communities. once again positioned Dunedin as a leader among cities and communities. once again positioned Dunedin as a leader among cities and communities. once again positioned Dunedin as a leader among cities and communities. Your hard work and dedication are truly appreciated. Your hard work and dedication are truly appreciated. Your hard work and dedication are truly appreciated. Your hard work and dedication are truly appreciated. Your hard work and dedication are truly appreciated. A special thank you to Jory and Danielle, who were outstanding partners throughout the process. A special thank you to Jory and Danielle, who were outstanding partners throughout the process. A special thank you to Jory and Danielle, who were outstanding partners throughout the process. A special thank you to Jory and Danielle, who were outstanding partners throughout the process. A special thank you to Jory and Danielle, who were outstanding partners throughout the process. We truly value their teamwork and appreciate the leadership they bring on behalf of the city. We truly value their teamwork and appreciate the leadership they bring on behalf of the city. We truly value their teamwork and appreciate the leadership they bring on behalf of the city. We truly value their teamwork and appreciate the leadership they bring on behalf of the city. We truly value their teamwork and appreciate the leadership they bring on behalf of the city. So, it, when I, Tony, where are you, Tony? So, it, when I, Tony, where are you, Tony? So, it, when I, Tony, where are you, Tony? So, it, when I, Tony, where are you, Tony? So, it, when I, Tony, where are you, Tony? Tony first started when this was proposed, remember, in September? Tony first started when this was proposed, remember, in September? Tony first started when this was proposed, remember, in September? Tony first started when this was proposed, remember, in September? Tony first started when this was proposed, remember, in September? And I sat there, and I was like, oh, yeah, we can take on another parade, no big deal. And I sat there, and I was like, oh, yeah, we can take on another parade, no big deal. And I sat there, and I was like, oh, yeah, we can take on another parade, no big deal. And I sat there, and I was like, oh, yeah, we can take on another parade, no big deal. And I sat there, and I was like, oh, yeah, we can take on another parade, no big deal. Because rock stars like Alicia and Stephanie in our Parks and Rec department, sure, we got it, no big deal. Because rock stars like Alicia and Stephanie in our Parks and Rec department, sure, we got it, no big deal. Because rock stars like Alicia and Stephanie in our Parks and Rec department, sure, we got it, no big deal. Because rock stars like Alicia and Stephanie in our Parks and Rec department, sure, we got it, no big deal. Because rock stars like Alicia and Stephanie in our Parks and Rec department, sure, we got it, no big deal. But what we failed to realize is that we were also coordinating so many other events. But what we failed to realize is that we were also coordinating so many other events. But what we failed to realize is that we were also coordinating so many other events. But what we failed to realize is that we were also coordinating so many other events. But what we failed to realize is that we were also coordinating so many other events. What was it the following weekend was, welcome back, Blue Jays, golf car parade, working on Highland games. What was it the following weekend was, welcome back, Blue Jays, golf car parade, working on Highland games. What was it the following weekend was, welcome back, Blue Jays, golf car parade, working on Highland games. What was it the following weekend was, welcome back, Blue Jays, golf car parade, working on Highland games. What was it the following weekend was, welcome back, Blue Jays, golf car parade, working on Highland games. And then we're like, I said to myself at one time, I was like, what was I thinking? And then we're like, I said to myself at one time, I was like, what was I thinking? And then we're like, I said to myself at one time, I was like, what was I thinking? And then we're like, I said to myself at one time, I was like, what was I thinking? And then we're like, I said to myself at one time, I was like, what was I thinking? But we did it, and we did an awesome job. But we did it, and we did an awesome job. But we did it, and we did an awesome job. But we did it, and we did an awesome job. But we did it, and we did an awesome job. Way to go, team. Way to go, team. Way to go, team. Way to go, team. Way to go, team. And I'll be ready to hand over my binder to Jeanette. And I'll be ready to hand over my binder to Jeanette. And I'll be ready to hand over my binder to Jeanette. And I'll be ready to hand over my binder to Jeanette. And I'll be ready to hand over my binder to Jeanette.
All right, before we finish, we clearly have to talk about the winners, okay? All right, before we finish, we clearly have to talk about the winners, okay? All right, before we finish, we clearly have to talk about the winners, okay? All right, before we finish, we clearly have to talk about the winners, okay? All right, before we finish, we clearly have to talk about the winners, okay? There are some beautiful floats out there, so we have to recognize them. There are some beautiful floats out there, so we have to recognize them. There are some beautiful floats out there, so we have to recognize them. There are some beautiful floats out there, so we have to recognize them. There are some beautiful floats out there, so we have to recognize them. So, without further ado, we are going to hand out the certificates. So, without further ado, we are going to hand out the certificates. So, without further ado, we are going to hand out the certificates. So, without further ado, we are going to hand out the certificates. So, without further ado, we are going to hand out the certificates. So, for the best crew, it is the Thieves of San Lorenzo. So, for the best crew, it is the Thieves of San Lorenzo. So, for the best crew, it is the Thieves of San Lorenzo. So, for the best crew, it is the Thieves of San Lorenzo. So, for the best crew, it is the Thieves of San Lorenzo. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up.
Brooke, how do we want to do victory? Brooke, how do we want to do victory? Brooke, how do we want to do victory? Brooke, how do we want to do victory? Brooke, how do we want to do victory? Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. Thank you for having us here. My name is Sandy. My name is Sandy. My name is Sandy. My name is Sandy. My name is Sandy. I'm the president of our crew this year. I'm the president of our crew this year. I'm the president of our crew this year. I'm the president of our crew this year. I'm the president of our crew this year. We are an all-female crew of 90 members throughout the whole Tampa Bay area, and we do mainly fun and charity. We are an all-female crew of 90 members throughout the whole Tampa Bay area, and we do mainly fun and charity. We are an all-female crew of 90 members throughout the whole Tampa Bay area, and we do mainly fun and charity. We are an all-female crew of 90 members throughout the whole Tampa Bay area, and we do mainly fun and charity. We are an all-female crew of 90 members throughout the whole Tampa Bay area, and we do mainly fun and charity. So, our charity is Ronald McDonald House, the Crisis Center of Tampa Bay, and the Shriners. So, our charity is Ronald McDonald House, the Crisis Center of Tampa Bay, and the Shriners. So, our charity is Ronald McDonald House, the Crisis Center of Tampa Bay, and the Shriners. So, our charity is Ronald McDonald House, the Crisis Center of Tampa Bay, and the Shriners. So, our charity is Ronald McDonald House, the Crisis Center of Tampa Bay, and the Shriners. Those are our main ones. Those are our main ones. Those are our main ones. Those are our main ones. Those are our main ones. And we have our founder here today, Donna. And we have our founder here today, Donna. And we have our founder here today, Donna. And we have our founder here today, Donna. And we have our founder here today, Donna. She was our founder back in 1999. She was our founder back in 1999. She was our founder back in 1999. She was our founder back in 1999. She was our founder back in 1999. We love this parade. We love this parade. We love this parade. We love this parade. We love this parade. We've been doing this parade for many, many years, and we like it that she put it back on Tuesday. We've been doing this parade for many, many years, and we like it that she put it back on Tuesday. We've been doing this parade for many, many years, and we like it that she put it back on Tuesday. We've been doing this parade for many, many years, and we like it that she put it back on Tuesday. We've been doing this parade for many, many years, and we like it that she put it back on Tuesday. We love it. We love it. We love it. We love it. We love it. We invited friends and family this year, too. We invited friends and family this year, too. We invited friends and family this year, too. We invited friends and family this year, too. We invited friends and family this year, too. And so, we had a big—we had 70 people turn out for this, and it was a lot of fun. And so, we had a big—we had 70 people turn out for this, and it was a lot of fun. And so, we had a big—we had 70 people turn out for this, and it was a lot of fun. And so, we had a big—we had 70 people turn out for this, and it was a lot of fun. And so, we had a big—we had 70 people turn out for this, and it was a lot of fun. But I just wanted to say thank you so much, and thank you for this award. But I just wanted to say thank you so much, and thank you for this award. But I just wanted to say thank you so much, and thank you for this award. But I just wanted to say thank you so much, and thank you for this award. But I just wanted to say thank you so much, and thank you for this award. She's got some pens to hand out to y'all. She's got some pens to hand out to y'all. She's got some pens to hand out to y'all. She's got some pens to hand out to y'all. She's got some pens to hand out to y'all.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, Jory, do we want to do pictures one at a time here, or— Hey, Jory, do we want to do pictures one at a time here, or— Hey, Jory, do we want to do pictures one at a time here, or— Hey, Jory, do we want to do pictures one at a time here, or— Hey, Jory, do we want to do pictures one at a time here, or— How do you want to do it? How do you want to do it? How do you want to do it? How do you want to do it? How do you want to do it?
Do you want to do one whole big picture? Do you want to do one whole big picture? Do you want to do one whole big picture? Do you want to do one whole big picture? Do you want to do one whole big picture? I don't know that we'll have enough—it'll be too big with everybody. I don't know that we'll have enough—it'll be too big with everybody. I don't know that we'll have enough—it'll be too big with everybody. I don't know that we'll have enough—it'll be too big with everybody. I don't know that we'll have enough—it'll be too big with everybody.
We can't—we've done firefighters in one big—maybe one at a time. We can't—we've done firefighters in one big—maybe one at a time. We can't—we've done firefighters in one big—maybe one at a time. We can't—we've done firefighters in one big—maybe one at a time. We can't—we've done firefighters in one big—maybe one at a time. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
It might be easier. It might be easier. It might be easier. It might be easier. It might be easier. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Oh, this is going to be— Oh, this is going to be— Oh, this is going to be— Oh, this is going to be— Oh, this is going to be— Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have maybe—yeah, I'm not sure about this one. I have maybe—yeah, I'm not sure about this one. I have maybe—yeah, I'm not sure about this one. I have maybe—yeah, I'm not sure about this one. I have maybe—yeah, I'm not sure about this one.
Do you want to stand on a chair? Do you want to stand on a chair? Do you want to stand on a chair? Do you want to stand on a chair? Do you want to stand on a chair?
Yes, go ahead. Yes, go ahead. Yes, go ahead. Yes, go ahead. Yes, go ahead. Here, I'll go here. Here, I'll go here. Here, I'll go here. Here, I'll go here. Here, I'll go here.
Mayor, can I be a little bit this way? Mayor, can I be a little bit this way? Mayor, can I be a little bit this way? Mayor, can I be a little bit this way? Mayor, can I be a little bit this way? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Stand up, Mayor. Stand up, Mayor. Stand up, Mayor. Stand up, Mayor. Stand up, Mayor. I know, I'm trying. I know, I'm trying. I know, I'm trying. I know, I'm trying. I know, I'm trying. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, ladies. Thank you, ladies. Thank you, ladies. Thank you, ladies. Thank you, ladies.
Our next winner is for the best vehicle, and that is D&J Records. Our next winner is for the best vehicle, and that is D&J Records. Our next winner is for the best vehicle, and that is D&J Records. Our next winner is for the best vehicle, and that is D&J Records. Our next winner is for the best vehicle, and that is D&J Records. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up.
Thank you so much for, you know, giving this to us. Thank you so much for, you know, giving this to us. Thank you so much for, you know, giving this to us. Thank you so much for, you know, giving this to us. Thank you so much for, you know, giving this to us. We are a record store in town, record, cassette, and CDs, and we love Dunedin. We are a record store in town, record, cassette, and CDs, and we love Dunedin. We are a record store in town, record, cassette, and CDs, and we love Dunedin. We are a record store in town, record, cassette, and CDs, and we love Dunedin. We are a record store in town, record, cassette, and CDs, and we love Dunedin. I'm Daniella, and this is Jody. I'm Daniella, and this is Jody. I'm Daniella, and this is Jody. I'm Daniella, and this is Jody. I'm Daniella, and this is Jody. So we're the D&J Records. So we're the D&J Records. So we're the D&J Records. So we're the D&J Records. So we're the D&J Records. We have a lot of listening parties where there's a lot of young people come to. We have a lot of listening parties where there's a lot of young people come to. We have a lot of listening parties where there's a lot of young people come to. We have a lot of listening parties where there's a lot of young people come to. We have a lot of listening parties where there's a lot of young people come to. We're very inspired by the young people, aren't we? We're very inspired by the young people, aren't we? We're very inspired by the young people, aren't we? We're very inspired by the young people, aren't we? We're very inspired by the young people, aren't we? Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. But we get older. But we get older. But we get older. But we get older. But we get older. We get all kinds. We get all kinds. We get all kinds. We get all kinds. We get all kinds. Everybody loves music, and our favorite thing to do is get that music into your hands. Everybody loves music, and our favorite thing to do is get that music into your hands. Everybody loves music, and our favorite thing to do is get that music into your hands. Everybody loves music, and our favorite thing to do is get that music into your hands. Everybody loves music, and our favorite thing to do is get that music into your hands. And let me introduce you to our crew. And let me introduce you to our crew. And let me introduce you to our crew. And let me introduce you to our crew. And let me introduce you to our crew. Is that Nancy? Is that Nancy? Is that Nancy? Is that Nancy? Is that Nancy?
My sister-in-law. My sister-in-law. My sister-in-law. My sister-in-law. My sister-in-law.
Her sister-in-law. Her sister-in-law. Her sister-in-law. Her sister-in-law. Her sister-in-law. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. Mark. My brother. My brother. My brother. My brother. My brother. Her brother. Her brother. Her brother. Her brother. Her brother. Bob. Bob. Bob. Bob. Bob. Her father. Her father. Her father. Her father. Her father. My father. My father. My father. My father. My father. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. It's a family affair. Did I forget anything? Did I forget anything? Did I forget anything? Did I forget anything? Did I forget anything? No, I'm just saying, if you guys listen to our listening parties. No, I'm just saying, if you guys listen to our listening parties. No, I'm just saying, if you guys listen to our listening parties. No, I'm just saying, if you guys listen to our listening parties. No, I'm just saying, if you guys listen to our listening parties. Yeah, check our Facebook and Instagram, and you can come join the fun. Yeah, check our Facebook and Instagram, and you can come join the fun. Yeah, check our Facebook and Instagram, and you can come join the fun. Yeah, check our Facebook and Instagram, and you can come join the fun. Yeah, check our Facebook and Instagram, and you can come join the fun. We have listening parties out like for a month. We have listening parties out like for a month. We have listening parties out like for a month. We have listening parties out like for a month. We have listening parties out like for a month. And record store day is April 18th. And record store day is April 18th. And record store day is April 18th. And record store day is April 18th. And record store day is April 18th. Big time. Big time. Big time. Big time. Big time. And the listening parties give out free stuff. And the listening parties give out free stuff. And the listening parties give out free stuff. And the listening parties give out free stuff. And the listening parties give out free stuff. Posters. Posters. Posters. Posters. Posters. Steakers knows. Steakers knows. Steakers knows. Steakers knows. Steakers knows. Yeah, we're having one at 4-4-20. Yeah, we're having one at 4-4-20. Yeah, we're having one at 4-4-20. Yeah, we're having one at 4-4-20. Yeah, we're having one at 4-4-20. It's going to be jazz. It's going to be jazz. It's going to be jazz. It's going to be jazz. It's going to be jazz. Let's legalize jazz. Let's legalize jazz. Let's legalize jazz. Let's legalize jazz. Let's legalize jazz. And it's going to be a really cool record. And it's going to be a really cool record. And it's going to be a really cool record. And it's going to be a really cool record. And it's going to be a really cool record. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's all I got to say. That's all I got to say. That's all I got to say. That's all I got to say. That's all I got to say. Anything else? Anything else? Anything else? Anything else? Anything else? All right, thank you. All right, thank you. All right, thank you. All right, thank you. All right, thank you. Let's get a picture, though. Let's get a picture, though. Let's get a picture, though. Let's get a picture, though. Let's get a picture, though. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yep, you got to go up front. Yep, you got to go up front. Yep, you got to go up front. Yep, you got to go up front. Yep, you got to go up front.
Oh, on this side. Oh, on this side. Oh, on this side. Oh, on this side. Oh, on this side.
Can I have you guys take a little bit this far? Can I have you guys take a little bit this far? Can I have you guys take a little bit this far? Can I have you guys take a little bit this far? Can I have you guys take a little bit this far? I was at your grand opening. I was at your grand opening. I was at your grand opening. I was at your grand opening. I was at your grand opening. There we go. There we go. There we go. There we go. There we go. And then Samberg just signed it. And then Samberg just signed it. And then Samberg just signed it. And then Samberg just signed it. And then Samberg just signed it.
Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. You guys are great. You guys are great. You guys are great. You guys are great. You guys are great. All right, ready? All right, ready? All right, ready? All right, ready? All right, ready? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Oh, you're welcome. Oh, you're welcome. Oh, you're welcome. Oh, you're welcome. Oh, you're welcome.
You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. Sounds like a party, doesn't it? Sounds like a party, doesn't it? Sounds like a party, doesn't it? Sounds like a party, doesn't it? Sounds like a party, doesn't it? All right, our next group is the best handcrafted. All right, our next group is the best handcrafted. All right, our next group is the best handcrafted. All right, our next group is the best handcrafted. All right, our next group is the best handcrafted. And I can say from personal experience, it was amazing. And I can say from personal experience, it was amazing. And I can say from personal experience, it was amazing. And I can say from personal experience, it was amazing. And I can say from personal experience, it was amazing. And that is the Scottish American Society. And that is the Scottish American Society. And that is the Scottish American Society. And that is the Scottish American Society. And that is the Scottish American Society.
Come on up. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back.
Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Thank you, guys. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commission, staff. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commission, staff. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commission, staff. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commission, staff. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commission, staff. A big thank you, obviously, to city staff and to the Chamber of Commerce for an amazing Mardi Gras event. A big thank you, obviously, to city staff and to the Chamber of Commerce for an amazing Mardi Gras event. A big thank you, obviously, to city staff and to the Chamber of Commerce for an amazing Mardi Gras event. A big thank you, obviously, to city staff and to the Chamber of Commerce for an amazing Mardi Gras event. A big thank you, obviously, to city staff and to the Chamber of Commerce for an amazing Mardi Gras event. We were very proud to participate. We were very proud to participate. We were very proud to participate. We were very proud to participate. We were very proud to participate. And it just goes to show that, as Mark said earlier on, this is a wonderful city. And it just goes to show that, as Mark said earlier on, this is a wonderful city. And it just goes to show that, as Mark said earlier on, this is a wonderful city. And it just goes to show that, as Mark said earlier on, this is a wonderful city. And it just goes to show that, as Mark said earlier on, this is a wonderful city. And even the Loch Ness Monster comes here for the winter. And even the Loch Ness Monster comes here for the winter. And even the Loch Ness Monster comes here for the winter. And even the Loch Ness Monster comes here for the winter. And even the Loch Ness Monster comes here for the winter. So that was the theme of our float. So that was the theme of our float. So that was the theme of our float. So that was the theme of our float. So that was the theme of our float. Dave and Jerry helped me put it together with two or three others. Dave and Jerry helped me put it together with two or three others. Dave and Jerry helped me put it together with two or three others. Dave and Jerry helped me put it together with two or three others. Dave and Jerry helped me put it together with two or three others. And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night.
And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night. And we had an amazing, fun time that night.
Nessie is going to continue. Nessie is going to continue. Nessie is going to continue. Nessie is going to continue. Nessie is going to continue. She's going to get older. She's going to get older. She's going to get older. She's going to get older. She's going to get older. She's going to get better. She's going to get better. She's going to get better. She's going to get better. She's going to get better. And we'll participate in as many things as we can. And we'll participate in as many things as we can. And we'll participate in as many things as we can. And we'll participate in as many things as we can. And we'll participate in as many things as we can. Delighted to be part of it. Delighted to be part of it. Delighted to be part of it. Delighted to be part of it. Delighted to be part of it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome.
All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. And our best overall, I'm not sure if they're here tonight, but it is Blur. And our best overall, I'm not sure if they're here tonight, but it is Blur. And our best overall, I'm not sure if they're here tonight, but it is Blur. And our best overall, I'm not sure if they're here tonight, but it is Blur. And our best overall, I'm not sure if they're here tonight, but it is Blur. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Are they here too? Are they here too? Are they here too? Are they here too? Are they here too? I haven't seen them out there. I haven't seen them out there. I haven't seen them out there. I haven't seen them out there. I haven't seen them out there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It is their anniversary, so I do understand. It is their anniversary, so I do understand. It is their anniversary, so I do understand. It is their anniversary, so I do understand. It is their anniversary, so I do understand. We can drop it off to them. We can drop it off to them. We can drop it off to them. We can drop it off to them. We can drop it off to them. Before I go, I wanted to say something very special. Before I go, I wanted to say something very special. Before I go, I wanted to say something very special. Before I go, I wanted to say something very special. Before I go, I wanted to say something very special. Today is Ms. Jory Peterson's birthday. Today is Ms. Jory Peterson's birthday. Today is Ms. Jory Peterson's birthday. Today is Ms. Jory Peterson's birthday. Today is Ms. Jory Peterson's birthday. She is celebrating the anniversary of her 21st birthday again. She is celebrating the anniversary of her 21st birthday again. She is celebrating the anniversary of her 21st birthday again. She is celebrating the anniversary of her 21st birthday again. She is celebrating the anniversary of her 21st birthday again.
All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. And if we could do it. And if we could do it. And if we could do it. And if we could do it. And if we could do it. So how bad do you want to be embarrassed, Jory? So how bad do you want to be embarrassed, Jory? So how bad do you want to be embarrassed, Jory? So how bad do you want to be embarrassed, Jory? So how bad do you want to be embarrassed, Jory? Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Jory. Happy birthday, dear Jory. Happy birthday, dear Jory. Happy birthday, dear Jory. Happy birthday, dear Jory. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.
Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.
Can we shut your head? Can we shut your head? Can we shut your head? Can we shut your head? Can we shut your head?
I leave it this way. I leave it this way. I leave it this way. I leave it this way. I leave it this way. Oh, you're good. Oh, you're good. Oh, you're good. Oh, you're good. Oh, you're good. No, I was getting him. No, I was getting him. No, I was getting him. No, I was getting him. No, I was getting him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good for the golf course. Good for the golf course. Good for the golf course. Good for the golf course. Good for the golf course. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for all you do. Thanks for all you do. Thanks for all you do. Thanks for all you do. Thanks for all you do. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We have a very special proclamation now. We have a very special proclamation now. We have a very special proclamation now. We have a very special proclamation now. We have a very special proclamation now. Red Star City. Red Star City. Red Star City. Red Star City. Red Star City. And I'm going to let everybody leave or sit down before I start this one. And I'm going to let everybody leave or sit down before I start this one. And I'm going to let everybody leave or sit down before I start this one. And I'm going to let everybody leave or sit down before I start this one. And I'm going to let everybody leave or sit down before I start this one. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Red Star City. Red Star City. Red Star City. Red Star City. Red Star City. And I'm turning that over to our veteran, Vice Mayor Walker, the Navy, submarines. And I'm turning that over to our veteran, Vice Mayor Walker, the Navy, submarines. And I'm turning that over to our veteran, Vice Mayor Walker, the Navy, submarines. And I'm turning that over to our veteran, Vice Mayor Walker, the Navy, submarines. And I'm turning that over to our veteran, Vice Mayor Walker, the Navy, submarines.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. I do see a number of veterans in the audience. I do see a number of veterans in the audience. I do see a number of veterans in the audience. I do see a number of veterans in the audience. I do see a number of veterans in the audience. Can I get you all to come forward? Can I get you all to come forward? Can I get you all to come forward? Can I get you all to come forward? Can I get you all to come forward? This is a particularly special proclamation in that this proclamation designates Dunedin This is a particularly special proclamation in that this proclamation designates Dunedin This is a particularly special proclamation in that this proclamation designates Dunedin This is a particularly special proclamation in that this proclamation designates Dunedin This is a particularly special proclamation in that this proclamation designates Dunedin as the second Gold Star City in the state of Florida. as the second Gold Star City in the state of Florida. as the second Gold Star City in the state of Florida. as the second Gold Star City in the state of Florida. as the second Gold Star City in the state of Florida.
Red Star. Red Star. Red Star. Red Star. Red Star.
Sorry, Red Star. Sorry, Red Star. Sorry, Red Star. Sorry, Red Star. Sorry, Red Star. Red Star City in the state of Florida. Red Star City in the state of Florida. Red Star City in the state of Florida. Red Star City in the state of Florida. Red Star City in the state of Florida. And, you know, when you look at these numbers, you look at the numbers of our brother-in-arms, And, you know, when you look at these numbers, you look at the numbers of our brother-in-arms, And, you know, when you look at these numbers, you look at the numbers of our brother-in-arms, And, you know, when you look at these numbers, you look at the numbers of our brother-in-arms, And, you know, when you look at these numbers, you look at the numbers of our brother-in-arms, our veterans, our first responders who died by suicide every year. our veterans, our first responders who died by suicide every year. our veterans, our first responders who died by suicide every year. our veterans, our first responders who died by suicide every year. our veterans, our first responders who died by suicide every year. You have to understand this is unacceptable. You have to understand this is unacceptable. You have to understand this is unacceptable. You have to understand this is unacceptable. You have to understand this is unacceptable. And what that means to me is that we need to do more. And what that means to me is that we need to do more. And what that means to me is that we need to do more. And what that means to me is that we need to do more. And what that means to me is that we need to do more. And I think this is a great first step. And I think this is a great first step. And I think this is a great first step. And I think this is a great first step. And I think this is a great first step. And it's fitting that we're doing this here in Dunedin because the city of Dunedin has always And it's fitting that we're doing this here in Dunedin because the city of Dunedin has always And it's fitting that we're doing this here in Dunedin because the city of Dunedin has always And it's fitting that we're doing this here in Dunedin because the city of Dunedin has always And it's fitting that we're doing this here in Dunedin because the city of Dunedin has always supported our veteran community to the nth degree. supported our veteran community to the nth degree. supported our veteran community to the nth degree. supported our veteran community to the nth degree. supported our veteran community to the nth degree. We're the first Purple Heart City. We're the first Purple Heart City. We're the first Purple Heart City. We're the first Purple Heart City. We're the first Purple Heart City. We have a commemoration arch that recognizes our Dunedin servicemen. We have a commemoration arch that recognizes our Dunedin servicemen. We have a commemoration arch that recognizes our Dunedin servicemen. We have a commemoration arch that recognizes our Dunedin servicemen. We have a commemoration arch that recognizes our Dunedin servicemen. And so it is with absolute pride and honor that I read this proclamation. And so it is with absolute pride and honor that I read this proclamation. And so it is with absolute pride and honor that I read this proclamation. And so it is with absolute pride and honor that I read this proclamation. And so it is with absolute pride and honor that I read this proclamation. Red Star City proclamation. Red Star City proclamation. Red Star City proclamation. Red Star City proclamation. Red Star City proclamation. Whereas the Red Star Foundation, a dedicated 501c3 nonprofit organization, is a nationwide organization dedicated to honoring and supporting the families and loved ones of military members, veterans, and first responders who have tragically lost a loved one to suicide. Whereas the Red Star Foundation, a dedicated 501c3 nonprofit organization, is a nationwide organization dedicated to honoring and supporting the families and loved ones of military members, veterans, and first responders who have tragically lost a loved one to suicide. Whereas the Red Star Foundation, a dedicated 501c3 nonprofit organization, is a nationwide organization dedicated to honoring and supporting the families and loved ones of military members, veterans, and first responders who have tragically lost a loved one to suicide. Whereas the Red Star Foundation, a dedicated 501c3 nonprofit organization, is a nationwide organization dedicated to honoring and supporting the families and loved ones of military members, veterans, and first responders who have tragically lost a loved one to suicide. Whereas the Red Star Foundation, a dedicated 501c3 nonprofit organization, is a nationwide organization dedicated to honoring and supporting the families and loved ones of military members, veterans, and first responders who have tragically lost a loved one to suicide. And the mental health crisis among military personnel, veterans, and first responders has reached epidemic proportions with approximately 500 active duty service members, 8,000 veterans, and 500 first responders dying by suicide each year. And the mental health crisis among military personnel, veterans, and first responders has reached epidemic proportions with approximately 500 active duty service members, 8,000 veterans, and 500 first responders dying by suicide each year. And the mental health crisis among military personnel, veterans, and first responders has reached epidemic proportions with approximately 500 active duty service members, 8,000 veterans, and 500 first responders dying by suicide each year. And the mental health crisis among military personnel, veterans, and first responders has reached epidemic proportions with approximately 500 active duty service members, 8,000 veterans, and 500 first responders dying by suicide each year. And the mental health crisis among military personnel, veterans, and first responders has reached epidemic proportions with approximately 500 active duty service members, 8,000 veterans, and 500 first responders dying by suicide each year. And these fallen heroes leave behind grieving families known as Red Star families who carry the burden of loss while striving to honor their loved ones, service, and sacrifice. And these fallen heroes leave behind grieving families known as Red Star families who carry the burden of loss while striving to honor their loved ones, service, and sacrifice. And these fallen heroes leave behind grieving families known as Red Star families who carry the burden of loss while striving to honor their loved ones, service, and sacrifice. And these fallen heroes leave behind grieving families known as Red Star families who carry the burden of loss while striving to honor their loved ones, service, and sacrifice. And these fallen heroes leave behind grieving families known as Red Star families who carry the burden of loss while striving to honor their loved ones, service, and sacrifice. And the city of Dunedin recognizes the sacrifices made not only by those who served in uniform, but also their families who endure the lasting impact of their loss. And the city of Dunedin recognizes the sacrifices made not only by those who served in uniform, but also their families who endure the lasting impact of their loss. And the city of Dunedin recognizes the sacrifices made not only by those who served in uniform, but also their families who endure the lasting impact of their loss. And the city of Dunedin recognizes the sacrifices made not only by those who served in uniform, but also their families who endure the lasting impact of their loss. And the city of Dunedin recognizes the sacrifices made not only by those who served in uniform, but also their families who endure the lasting impact of their loss. And the city of Dunedin, supported by the American Legion, the veterans of foreign wars, the Military Order of Purple Heart, stands committed to raising awareness, providing support, and fostering a community of remembrance, healing, and advocacy to combat military, veteran, and first responders. And the city of Dunedin, supported by the American Legion, the veterans of foreign wars, the Military Order of Purple Heart, stands committed to raising awareness, providing support, and fostering a community of remembrance, healing, and advocacy to combat military, veteran, and first responders. And the city of Dunedin, supported by the American Legion, the veterans of foreign wars, the Military Order of Purple Heart, stands committed to raising awareness, providing support, and fostering a community of remembrance, healing, and advocacy to combat military, veteran, and first responders. And the city of Dunedin, supported by the American Legion, the veterans of foreign wars, the Military Order of Purple Heart, stands committed to raising awareness, providing support, and fostering a community of remembrance, healing, and advocacy to combat military, veteran, and first responders. And the city of Dunedin, supported by the American Legion, the veterans of foreign wars, the Military Order of Purple Heart, stands committed to raising awareness, providing support, and fostering a community of remembrance, healing, and advocacy to combat military, veteran, and first responders. In partnership with the Red Star Foundation, the city of Dunedin pledges to honor Red Star families and promote suicide awareness and prevention efforts. In partnership with the Red Star Foundation, the city of Dunedin pledges to honor Red Star families and promote suicide awareness and prevention efforts. In partnership with the Red Star Foundation, the city of Dunedin pledges to honor Red Star families and promote suicide awareness and prevention efforts. In partnership with the Red Star Foundation, the city of Dunedin pledges to honor Red Star families and promote suicide awareness and prevention efforts. In partnership with the Red Star Foundation, the city of Dunedin pledges to honor Red Star families and promote suicide awareness and prevention efforts. Now, therefore, I, Robert James Walker, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim Dunedin as a Red Star city, henceforth recognizing March 21st as Red Star Families Day, Now, therefore, I, Robert James Walker, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim Dunedin as a Red Star city, henceforth recognizing March 21st as Red Star Families Day, Now, therefore, I, Robert James Walker, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim Dunedin as a Red Star city, henceforth recognizing March 21st as Red Star Families Day, Now, therefore, I, Robert James Walker, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim Dunedin as a Red Star city, henceforth recognizing March 21st as Red Star Families Day, Now, therefore, I, Robert James Walker, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim Dunedin as a Red Star city, henceforth recognizing March 21st as Red Star Families Day,
demonstrating commitment to supporting Red Star families, advocating for suicide prevention, and ensuring that the sacrifices of our heroes and their families are never forgotten. demonstrating commitment to supporting Red Star families, advocating for suicide prevention, and ensuring that the sacrifices of our heroes and their families are never forgotten. demonstrating commitment to supporting Red Star families, advocating for suicide prevention, and ensuring that the sacrifices of our heroes and their families are never forgotten. demonstrating commitment to supporting Red Star families, advocating for suicide prevention, and ensuring that the sacrifices of our heroes and their families are never forgotten. demonstrating commitment to supporting Red Star families, advocating for suicide prevention, and ensuring that the sacrifices of our heroes and their families are never forgotten. Ordinarily, I'd come down and hand it to you, but it'll take me 45 minutes to get there. Ordinarily, I'd come down and hand it to you, but it'll take me 45 minutes to get there. Ordinarily, I'd come down and hand it to you, but it'll take me 45 minutes to get there. Ordinarily, I'd come down and hand it to you, but it'll take me 45 minutes to get there. Ordinarily, I'd come down and hand it to you, but it'll take me 45 minutes to get there.
Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry.
Is the button down? Is the button down? Is the button down? Is the button down? Is the button down?
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Ah, there we go, Jerry. Ah, there we go, Jerry. Ah, there we go, Jerry. Ah, there we go, Jerry. Ah, there we go, Jerry.
Before I introduce Jerry Schaefer, I just want to tell you that I wish that I was a better wordsmith to tell you how so damn proud I am of this city at this moment, Before I introduce Jerry Schaefer, I just want to tell you that I wish that I was a better wordsmith to tell you how so damn proud I am of this city at this moment, Before I introduce Jerry Schaefer, I just want to tell you that I wish that I was a better wordsmith to tell you how so damn proud I am of this city at this moment, Before I introduce Jerry Schaefer, I just want to tell you that I wish that I was a better wordsmith to tell you how so damn proud I am of this city at this moment, Before I introduce Jerry Schaefer, I just want to tell you that I wish that I was a better wordsmith to tell you how so damn proud I am of this city at this moment, for having recognized the importance and the significance of what we have just done by making us the second Red Star city in America. for having recognized the importance and the significance of what we have just done by making us the second Red Star city in America. for having recognized the importance and the significance of what we have just done by making us the second Red Star city in America. for having recognized the importance and the significance of what we have just done by making us the second Red Star city in America. for having recognized the importance and the significance of what we have just done by making us the second Red Star city in America. We always say that when a soldier is deployed into battle, the entire family is deployed. We always say that when a soldier is deployed into battle, the entire family is deployed. We always say that when a soldier is deployed into battle, the entire family is deployed. We always say that when a soldier is deployed into battle, the entire family is deployed. We always say that when a soldier is deployed into battle, the entire family is deployed. And if tragically, a soldier dies in battle, the pain to that family is so well-tempered by the notion that he died honorably in defense of his country. And if tragically, a soldier dies in battle, the pain to that family is so well-tempered by the notion that he died honorably in defense of his country. And if tragically, a soldier dies in battle, the pain to that family is so well-tempered by the notion that he died honorably in defense of his country. And if tragically, a soldier dies in battle, the pain to that family is so well-tempered by the notion that he died honorably in defense of his country. And if tragically, a soldier dies in battle, the pain to that family is so well-tempered by the notion that he died honorably in defense of his country. But when a battlefield soldier commits suicide, it's not the same. But when a battlefield soldier commits suicide, it's not the same. But when a battlefield soldier commits suicide, it's not the same. But when a battlefield soldier commits suicide, it's not the same. But when a battlefield soldier commits suicide, it's not the same. There are no parades. There are no parades. There are no parades. There are no parades. There are no parades. There are no letters from the president. There are no letters from the president. There are no letters from the president. There are no letters from the president. There are no letters from the president. There's no folded American flag. There's no folded American flag. There's no folded American flag. There's no folded American flag. There's no folded American flag. The family is left to their own devices. The family is left to their own devices. The family is left to their own devices. The family is left to their own devices. The family is left to their own devices. And there never has been a time until now, and thanks to the person I'm about to introduce, And there never has been a time until now, and thanks to the person I'm about to introduce, And there never has been a time until now, and thanks to the person I'm about to introduce, And there never has been a time until now, and thanks to the person I'm about to introduce, And there never has been a time until now, and thanks to the person I'm about to introduce, that there has been any kind of support system, both governmentally or socially or even locally, that there has been any kind of support system, both governmentally or socially or even locally, that there has been any kind of support system, both governmentally or socially or even locally, that there has been any kind of support system, both governmentally or socially or even locally, that there has been any kind of support system, both governmentally or socially or even locally, for the families of suicide victims. for the families of suicide victims. for the families of suicide victims. for the families of suicide victims. for the families of suicide victims. So I am so proud to introduce the man that recognized that there was a void and didn't sit on his hands but moved forward to make a difference. So I am so proud to introduce the man that recognized that there was a void and didn't sit on his hands but moved forward to make a difference. So I am so proud to introduce the man that recognized that there was a void and didn't sit on his hands but moved forward to make a difference. So I am so proud to introduce the man that recognized that there was a void and didn't sit on his hands but moved forward to make a difference. So I am so proud to introduce the man that recognized that there was a void and didn't sit on his hands but moved forward to make a difference. I have in my hands a check for $1,000, which is our part in becoming a Red Star family. I have in my hands a check for $1,000, which is our part in becoming a Red Star family. I have in my hands a check for $1,000, which is our part in becoming a Red Star family. I have in my hands a check for $1,000, which is our part in becoming a Red Star family. I have in my hands a check for $1,000, which is our part in becoming a Red Star family. One of the great things about this check, by the way, it doesn't come from one person. One of the great things about this check, by the way, it doesn't come from one person. One of the great things about this check, by the way, it doesn't come from one person. One of the great things about this check, by the way, it doesn't come from one person. One of the great things about this check, by the way, it doesn't come from one person. I am so proud to say that four of us participated in this check, and it shows the global participation of our community. I am so proud to say that four of us participated in this check, and it shows the global participation of our community. I am so proud to say that four of us participated in this check, and it shows the global participation of our community. I am so proud to say that four of us participated in this check, and it shows the global participation of our community. I am so proud to say that four of us participated in this check, and it shows the global participation of our community. It comes first from myself. It comes first from myself. It comes first from myself. It comes first from myself. It comes first from myself. And then Father Swick said, absolutely, I want to participate in this. And then Father Swick said, absolutely, I want to participate in this. And then Father Swick said, absolutely, I want to participate in this. And then Father Swick said, absolutely, I want to participate in this. And then Father Swick said, absolutely, I want to participate in this. So we shared it. So we shared it. So we shared it. So we shared it. So we shared it. Commissioner Walker said, I'm sorry, but I have to be part of this. Commissioner Walker said, I'm sorry, but I have to be part of this. Commissioner Walker said, I'm sorry, but I have to be part of this. Commissioner Walker said, I'm sorry, but I have to be part of this. Commissioner Walker said, I'm sorry, but I have to be part of this. And then last week, I get a call from Mayor Moe saying it would be my honor to be part of it. And then last week, I get a call from Mayor Moe saying it would be my honor to be part of it. And then last week, I get a call from Mayor Moe saying it would be my honor to be part of it. And then last week, I get a call from Mayor Moe saying it would be my honor to be part of it. And then last week, I get a call from Mayor Moe saying it would be my honor to be part of it. Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? And Beth, yes. And Beth, yes. And Beth, yes. And Beth, yes. And Beth, yes. So, Jerry, you're my friend. So, Jerry, you're my friend. So, Jerry, you're my friend. So, Jerry, you're my friend. So, Jerry, you're my friend. Here is a check for $1,000 from the city of Dunedin. Here is a check for $1,000 from the city of Dunedin. Here is a check for $1,000 from the city of Dunedin. Here is a check for $1,000 from the city of Dunedin. Here is a check for $1,000 from the city of Dunedin. It is an honor and a privilege to introduce the person who has made a difference in the lives of so many of our veterans' families It is an honor and a privilege to introduce the person who has made a difference in the lives of so many of our veterans' families It is an honor and a privilege to introduce the person who has made a difference in the lives of so many of our veterans' families It is an honor and a privilege to introduce the person who has made a difference in the lives of so many of our veterans' families It is an honor and a privilege to introduce the person who has made a difference in the lives of so many of our veterans' families who have lost loved ones to suicide. who have lost loved ones to suicide. who have lost loved ones to suicide. who have lost loved ones to suicide. who have lost loved ones to suicide. So, again, it's my honor to introduce my friend, my brother, the United States Marine, Jerry Schaefer. So, again, it's my honor to introduce my friend, my brother, the United States Marine, Jerry Schaefer. So, again, it's my honor to introduce my friend, my brother, the United States Marine, Jerry Schaefer. So, again, it's my honor to introduce my friend, my brother, the United States Marine, Jerry Schaefer. So, again, it's my honor to introduce my friend, my brother, the United States Marine, Jerry Schaefer.
Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. My name is Jerry Schaefer. My name is Jerry Schaefer. My name is Jerry Schaefer. My name is Jerry Schaefer. My name is Jerry Schaefer. I am the CEO of the Red Star Foundation. I am the CEO of the Red Star Foundation. I am the CEO of the Red Star Foundation. I am the CEO of the Red Star Foundation. I am the CEO of the Red Star Foundation. To my left, I have one of our board members, Greg Tiley. To my left, I have one of our board members, Greg Tiley. To my left, I have one of our board members, Greg Tiley. To my left, I have one of our board members, Greg Tiley. To my left, I have one of our board members, Greg Tiley. And to my right, second right over here, is Father Bob Swick, which you all know, And to my right, second right over here, is Father Bob Swick, which you all know, And to my right, second right over here, is Father Bob Swick, which you all know, And to my right, second right over here, is Father Bob Swick, which you all know, And to my right, second right over here, is Father Bob Swick, which you all know, who is also a board member and our chaplain. who is also a board member and our chaplain. who is also a board member and our chaplain. who is also a board member and our chaplain. who is also a board member and our chaplain. First, I'd like to start out by thanking Mayor Freeney and Vice Mayor Rob Walker. First, I'd like to start out by thanking Mayor Freeney and Vice Mayor Rob Walker. First, I'd like to start out by thanking Mayor Freeney and Vice Mayor Rob Walker. First, I'd like to start out by thanking Mayor Freeney and Vice Mayor Rob Walker. First, I'd like to start out by thanking Mayor Freeney and Vice Mayor Rob Walker. Thank you for the courage that you have to put this vision forward in making Dunedin a Red Star City. Thank you for the courage that you have to put this vision forward in making Dunedin a Red Star City. Thank you for the courage that you have to put this vision forward in making Dunedin a Red Star City. Thank you for the courage that you have to put this vision forward in making Dunedin a Red Star City. Thank you for the courage that you have to put this vision forward in making Dunedin a Red Star City. I'd also like to thank the entire commission here. I'd also like to thank the entire commission here. I'd also like to thank the entire commission here. I'd also like to thank the entire commission here. I'd also like to thank the entire commission here. Thank you for allowing this to happen. Thank you for allowing this to happen. Thank you for allowing this to happen. Thank you for allowing this to happen. Thank you for allowing this to happen. Thank you for speaking up and being a voice for those that have lost a loved one to suicide. Thank you for speaking up and being a voice for those that have lost a loved one to suicide. Thank you for speaking up and being a voice for those that have lost a loved one to suicide. Thank you for speaking up and being a voice for those that have lost a loved one to suicide. Thank you for speaking up and being a voice for those that have lost a loved one to suicide. I'd also like to thank Rob Kozen and the City of Dunedin Military and Advisory Committee, I'd also like to thank Rob Kozen and the City of Dunedin Military and Advisory Committee, I'd also like to thank Rob Kozen and the City of Dunedin Military and Advisory Committee, I'd also like to thank Rob Kozen and the City of Dunedin Military and Advisory Committee, I'd also like to thank Rob Kozen and the City of Dunedin Military and Advisory Committee, who spearheaded this initiative. who spearheaded this initiative. who spearheaded this initiative. who spearheaded this initiative. who spearheaded this initiative. Lastly, I would like to thank the great and very patriotic people of Dunedin for your support. Lastly, I would like to thank the great and very patriotic people of Dunedin for your support. Lastly, I would like to thank the great and very patriotic people of Dunedin for your support. Lastly, I would like to thank the great and very patriotic people of Dunedin for your support. Lastly, I would like to thank the great and very patriotic people of Dunedin for your support. You continue to lead by example, and you take care of your veterans. You continue to lead by example, and you take care of your veterans. You continue to lead by example, and you take care of your veterans. You continue to lead by example, and you take care of your veterans. You continue to lead by example, and you take care of your veterans. The Red Star Foundation's mission is to eradicate military, veteran, and first responder suicide The Red Star Foundation's mission is to eradicate military, veteran, and first responder suicide The Red Star Foundation's mission is to eradicate military, veteran, and first responder suicide The Red Star Foundation's mission is to eradicate military, veteran, and first responder suicide The Red Star Foundation's mission is to eradicate military, veteran, and first responder suicide and to help support the families that have suffered a suicide. and to help support the families that have suffered a suicide. and to help support the families that have suffered a suicide. and to help support the families that have suffered a suicide. and to help support the families that have suffered a suicide. In the same blueprint as the Gold Star families, In the same blueprint as the Gold Star families, In the same blueprint as the Gold Star families, In the same blueprint as the Gold Star families, In the same blueprint as the Gold Star families, this is a Gold Star banner that is given to the next of kin of the family that has lost someone that's killed in action. this is a Gold Star banner that is given to the next of kin of the family that has lost someone that's killed in action. this is a Gold Star banner that is given to the next of kin of the family that has lost someone that's killed in action. this is a Gold Star banner that is given to the next of kin of the family that has lost someone that's killed in action. this is a Gold Star banner that is given to the next of kin of the family that has lost someone that's killed in action. We created the Red Star banner. We created the Red Star banner. We created the Red Star banner. We created the Red Star banner. We created the Red Star banner. This is the Red Star banner, and this is given to the next of kin to a family This is the Red Star banner, and this is given to the next of kin to a family This is the Red Star banner, and this is given to the next of kin to a family This is the Red Star banner, and this is given to the next of kin to a family This is the Red Star banner, and this is given to the next of kin to a family that has suffered a suicide loss of military, veteran, and first responders. that has suffered a suicide loss of military, veteran, and first responders. that has suffered a suicide loss of military, veteran, and first responders. that has suffered a suicide loss of military, veteran, and first responders. that has suffered a suicide loss of military, veteran, and first responders. Forty-four veterans die every single day. Forty-four veterans die every single day. Forty-four veterans die every single day. Forty-four veterans die every single day. Forty-four veterans die every single day. Not 22, not 17, but 44. Not 22, not 17, but 44. Not 22, not 17, but 44. Not 22, not 17, but 44. Not 22, not 17, but 44. America's Warrior Partnership released a five-year deep dive study last year, America's Warrior Partnership released a five-year deep dive study last year, America's Warrior Partnership released a five-year deep dive study last year, America's Warrior Partnership released a five-year deep dive study last year, America's Warrior Partnership released a five-year deep dive study last year, and the number was 44. and the number was 44. and the number was 44. and the number was 44. and the number was 44. That comes out to 16,000 veterans a year. That comes out to 16,000 veterans a year. That comes out to 16,000 veterans a year. That comes out to 16,000 veterans a year. That comes out to 16,000 veterans a year. On top of that, you have 500 current military, 500 first responders that die by suicide annually. On top of that, you have 500 current military, 500 first responders that die by suicide annually. On top of that, you have 500 current military, 500 first responders that die by suicide annually. On top of that, you have 500 current military, 500 first responders that die by suicide annually. On top of that, you have 500 current military, 500 first responders that die by suicide annually. Every single suicide, doesn't matter if it's veteran-related or not, Every single suicide, doesn't matter if it's veteran-related or not, Every single suicide, doesn't matter if it's veteran-related or not, Every single suicide, doesn't matter if it's veteran-related or not, Every single suicide, doesn't matter if it's veteran-related or not, every single suicide impacts 135 people on average. every single suicide impacts 135 people on average. every single suicide impacts 135 people on average. every single suicide impacts 135 people on average. every single suicide impacts 135 people on average. Family members, friends, co-workers, neighbors, etc., 135 people. Family members, friends, co-workers, neighbors, etc., 135 people. Family members, friends, co-workers, neighbors, etc., 135 people. Family members, friends, co-workers, neighbors, etc., 135 people. Family members, friends, co-workers, neighbors, etc., 135 people. Just in the community that we are working with, Just in the community that we are working with, Just in the community that we are working with, Just in the community that we are working with, Just in the community that we are working with, that's over 2 million people impacted by suicide annually. that's over 2 million people impacted by suicide annually. that's over 2 million people impacted by suicide annually. that's over 2 million people impacted by suicide annually. that's over 2 million people impacted by suicide annually. 2 million people that don't have a support system, and that's what we're working on here. 2 million people that don't have a support system, and that's what we're working on here. 2 million people that don't have a support system, and that's what we're working on here. 2 million people that don't have a support system, and that's what we're working on here. 2 million people that don't have a support system, and that's what we're working on here. That's what we're looking to build. That's what we're looking to build. That's what we're looking to build. That's what we're looking to build. That's what we're looking to build. Suicide brings a stigma, shame, and guilt. Suicide brings a stigma, shame, and guilt. Suicide brings a stigma, shame, and guilt. Suicide brings a stigma, shame, and guilt. Suicide brings a stigma, shame, and guilt. We are working to build a peer-to-peer network around the country that will stop that, We are working to build a peer-to-peer network around the country that will stop that, We are working to build a peer-to-peer network around the country that will stop that, We are working to build a peer-to-peer network around the country that will stop that, We are working to build a peer-to-peer network around the country that will stop that, that will help them heal, that will bring these families that have suffered the same type of loss together, that will help them heal, that will bring these families that have suffered the same type of loss together, that will help them heal, that will bring these families that have suffered the same type of loss together, that will help them heal, that will bring these families that have suffered the same type of loss together, that will help them heal, that will bring these families that have suffered the same type of loss together, so that they can heal, not only for them to heal, but their families to heal. so that they can heal, not only for them to heal, but their families to heal. so that they can heal, not only for them to heal, but their families to heal. so that they can heal, not only for them to heal, but their families to heal. so that they can heal, not only for them to heal, but their families to heal. Another important statistic is, if you've suffered a suicide loss in your family, Another important statistic is, if you've suffered a suicide loss in your family, Another important statistic is, if you've suffered a suicide loss in your family, Another important statistic is, if you've suffered a suicide loss in your family, Another important statistic is, if you've suffered a suicide loss in your family, the risk of suicide for you and your family members are three times higher. the risk of suicide for you and your family members are three times higher. the risk of suicide for you and your family members are three times higher. the risk of suicide for you and your family members are three times higher. the risk of suicide for you and your family members are three times higher. We're not only trying to reduce the risk of veterans and military and first responders, We're not only trying to reduce the risk of veterans and military and first responders, We're not only trying to reduce the risk of veterans and military and first responders, We're not only trying to reduce the risk of veterans and military and first responders, We're not only trying to reduce the risk of veterans and military and first responders, but also the families of those. but also the families of those. but also the families of those. but also the families of those. but also the families of those. So, that's why we're becoming a Red Star City. So, that's why we're becoming a Red Star City. So, that's why we're becoming a Red Star City. So, that's why we're becoming a Red Star City. So, that's why we're becoming a Red Star City. To break the stigma and normalize the conversations around suicide is so important. To break the stigma and normalize the conversations around suicide is so important. To break the stigma and normalize the conversations around suicide is so important. To break the stigma and normalize the conversations around suicide is so important. To break the stigma and normalize the conversations around suicide is so important. Thank you again for taking this very big step. Thank you again for taking this very big step. Thank you again for taking this very big step. Thank you again for taking this very big step. Thank you again for taking this very big step. May God bless each one of you, and may God bless the city of Dunedin. May God bless each one of you, and may God bless the city of Dunedin. May God bless each one of you, and may God bless the city of Dunedin. May God bless each one of you, and may God bless the city of Dunedin. May God bless each one of you, and may God bless the city of Dunedin. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry.
Let's get our picture. Let's get our picture. Let's get our picture. Let's get our picture. Let's get our picture.
Yeah, we'll get our picture. Yeah, we'll get our picture. Yeah, we'll get our picture. Yeah, we'll get our picture. Yeah, we'll get our picture.
I'm waiting for you, Jerry. I'm waiting for you, Jerry. I'm waiting for you, Jerry. I'm waiting for you, Jerry. I'm waiting for you, Jerry.
So, I do want to recognize our Parks and Recreation Director, Tony Mulkey. So, I do want to recognize our Parks and Recreation Director, Tony Mulkey. So, I do want to recognize our Parks and Recreation Director, Tony Mulkey. So, I do want to recognize our Parks and Recreation Director, Tony Mulkey. So, I do want to recognize our Parks and Recreation Director, Tony Mulkey. Am I saying it right? Am I saying it right? Am I saying it right? Am I saying it right? Am I saying it right? I'm getting used to the last name. I'm getting used to the last name. I'm getting used to the last name. I'm getting used to the last name. I'm getting used to the last name. But anyway, Tony kind of came in and pulled it all together as we were trying to do it all. But anyway, Tony kind of came in and pulled it all together as we were trying to do it all. But anyway, Tony kind of came in and pulled it all together as we were trying to do it all. But anyway, Tony kind of came in and pulled it all together as we were trying to do it all. But anyway, Tony kind of came in and pulled it all together as we were trying to do it all. So, thank you, Tony, for making that happen. So, thank you, Tony, for making that happen. So, thank you, Tony, for making that happen. So, thank you, Tony, for making that happen. So, thank you, Tony, for making that happen. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. And thank you very much for all you guys do. And thank you very much for all you guys do. And thank you very much for all you guys do. And thank you very much for all you guys do. And thank you very much for all you guys do. This is such a great cause. This is such a great cause. This is such a great cause. This is such a great cause. This is such a great cause. Love you all. Love you all. Love you all. Love you all. Love you all. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We are going to go to our final proclamation, which is National Tartan Day Proclamation, We are going to go to our final proclamation, which is National Tartan Day Proclamation, We are going to go to our final proclamation, which is National Tartan Day Proclamation, We are going to go to our final proclamation, which is National Tartan Day Proclamation, We are going to go to our final proclamation, which is National Tartan Day Proclamation, April 6, 2026. April 6, 2026. April 6, 2026. April 6, 2026. April 6, 2026. And I will turn to Commissioner Dugard. And I will turn to Commissioner Dugard. And I will turn to Commissioner Dugard. And I will turn to Commissioner Dugard. And I will turn to Commissioner Dugard.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. For those that are still here wearing a tartan, please come forward. For those that are still here wearing a tartan, please come forward. For those that are still here wearing a tartan, please come forward. For those that are still here wearing a tartan, please come forward. For those that are still here wearing a tartan, please come forward. It's National Tartan Day. It's National Tartan Day. It's National Tartan Day. It's National Tartan Day. It's National Tartan Day.
And I think Joan might be the acceptor. And I think Joan might be the acceptor. And I think Joan might be the acceptor. And I think Joan might be the acceptor. And I think Joan might be the acceptor. Joan, come on up. Joan, come on up. Joan, come on up. Joan, come on up. Joan, come on up.
Alan, come on up, all of you. Alan, come on up, all of you. Alan, come on up, all of you. Alan, come on up, all of you. Alan, come on up, all of you. Let's make it a celebration. Let's make it a celebration. Let's make it a celebration. Let's make it a celebration. Let's make it a celebration. What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think? What do you think?
Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. We have our posse here. We have our posse here. We have our posse here. We have our posse here. We have our posse here.
All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. I like the thunder in the background. I like the thunder in the background. I like the thunder in the background. I like the thunder in the background. I like the thunder in the background. It gives it a little flavor. It gives it a little flavor. It gives it a little flavor. It gives it a little flavor. It gives it a little flavor. Whereas National Tartan Day was declared by the U.S. Senate Resolution 144 to honor the role that Scottish Americans played in the founding of our nation, Whereas National Tartan Day was declared by the U.S. Senate Resolution 144 to honor the role that Scottish Americans played in the founding of our nation, Whereas National Tartan Day was declared by the U.S. Senate Resolution 144 to honor the role that Scottish Americans played in the founding of our nation, Whereas National Tartan Day was declared by the U.S. Senate Resolution 144 to honor the role that Scottish Americans played in the founding of our nation, Whereas National Tartan Day was declared by the U.S. Senate Resolution 144 to honor the role that Scottish Americans played in the founding of our nation, America's ties to Scotland are great. America's ties to Scotland are great. America's ties to Scotland are great. America's ties to Scotland are great. America's ties to Scotland are great. Almost half of the signers of the American Declaration of Independence, which was based on Scotland's 1320 Declaration of, and I'm going to probably butcher this, Arbath. Almost half of the signers of the American Declaration of Independence, which was based on Scotland's 1320 Declaration of, and I'm going to probably butcher this, Arbath. Almost half of the signers of the American Declaration of Independence, which was based on Scotland's 1320 Declaration of, and I'm going to probably butcher this, Arbath. Almost half of the signers of the American Declaration of Independence, which was based on Scotland's 1320 Declaration of, and I'm going to probably butcher this, Arbath. Almost half of the signers of the American Declaration of Independence, which was based on Scotland's 1320 Declaration of, and I'm going to probably butcher this, Arbath. And 34 of the U.S. And 34 of the U.S. And 34 of the U.S. And 34 of the U.S. And 34 of the U.S. And 34 of the 45 U.S. presidents have been of Scottish descent. And 34 of the 45 U.S. presidents have been of Scottish descent. And 34 of the 45 U.S. presidents have been of Scottish descent. And 34 of the 45 U.S. presidents have been of Scottish descent. And 34 of the 45 U.S. presidents have been of Scottish descent. And whereas Florida has a rich history of Scottish influence, as reflected in the culture and in the names of many of its counties, towns, cities, including Dunedin, which was founded by two Scotsmen, J.O. Douglas and James Somerville. And whereas Florida has a rich history of Scottish influence, as reflected in the culture and in the names of many of its counties, towns, cities, including Dunedin, which was founded by two Scotsmen, J.O. Douglas and James Somerville. And whereas Florida has a rich history of Scottish influence, as reflected in the culture and in the names of many of its counties, towns, cities, including Dunedin, which was founded by two Scotsmen, J.O. Douglas and James Somerville. And whereas Florida has a rich history of Scottish influence, as reflected in the culture and in the names of many of its counties, towns, cities, including Dunedin, which was founded by two Scotsmen, J.O. Douglas and James Somerville. And whereas Florida has a rich history of Scottish influence, as reflected in the culture and in the names of many of its counties, towns, cities, including Dunedin, which was founded by two Scotsmen, J.O. Douglas and James Somerville. And whereas Florida was the home of some of the famous Scottish descendants and many residents such as Thomas Edison, Ernest Hemingway, Henry Flagler, Andrew Carnegie, and the Seminole Indian chief Osceola. And whereas Florida was the home of some of the famous Scottish descendants and many residents such as Thomas Edison, Ernest Hemingway, Henry Flagler, Andrew Carnegie, and the Seminole Indian chief Osceola. And whereas Florida was the home of some of the famous Scottish descendants and many residents such as Thomas Edison, Ernest Hemingway, Henry Flagler, Andrew Carnegie, and the Seminole Indian chief Osceola. And whereas Florida was the home of some of the famous Scottish descendants and many residents such as Thomas Edison, Ernest Hemingway, Henry Flagler, Andrew Carnegie, and the Seminole Indian chief Osceola. And whereas Florida was the home of some of the famous Scottish descendants and many residents such as Thomas Edison, Ernest Hemingway, Henry Flagler, Andrew Carnegie, and the Seminole Indian chief Osceola. And whereas we celebrate the spirit and character of Scottish Americans and recognize their many contributions to our culture and way of life and strive to promote Scottish traditions internationally through sister city relationships with Stirling, Scotland. And whereas we celebrate the spirit and character of Scottish Americans and recognize their many contributions to our culture and way of life and strive to promote Scottish traditions internationally through sister city relationships with Stirling, Scotland. And whereas we celebrate the spirit and character of Scottish Americans and recognize their many contributions to our culture and way of life and strive to promote Scottish traditions internationally through sister city relationships with Stirling, Scotland. And whereas we celebrate the spirit and character of Scottish Americans and recognize their many contributions to our culture and way of life and strive to promote Scottish traditions internationally through sister city relationships with Stirling, Scotland. And whereas we celebrate the spirit and character of Scottish Americans and recognize their many contributions to our culture and way of life and strive to promote Scottish traditions internationally through sister city relationships with Stirling, Scotland. And whereas Dunedin encourages youth to embrace Scottish traditions through the art of Highland dance and the music of pipes and drums in their middle and high school pipe bands. And whereas Dunedin encourages youth to embrace Scottish traditions through the art of Highland dance and the music of pipes and drums in their middle and high school pipe bands. And whereas Dunedin encourages youth to embrace Scottish traditions through the art of Highland dance and the music of pipes and drums in their middle and high school pipe bands. And whereas Dunedin encourages youth to embrace Scottish traditions through the art of Highland dance and the music of pipes and drums in their middle and high school pipe bands. And whereas Dunedin encourages youth to embrace Scottish traditions through the art of Highland dance and the music of pipes and drums in their middle and high school pipe bands. And whereas no fewer than 10 Highland games and Celtic festivals are held each year throughout the state, including Dunedin, where people from all over the world attend. And whereas no fewer than 10 Highland games and Celtic festivals are held each year throughout the state, including Dunedin, where people from all over the world attend. And whereas no fewer than 10 Highland games and Celtic festivals are held each year throughout the state, including Dunedin, where people from all over the world attend. And whereas no fewer than 10 Highland games and Celtic festivals are held each year throughout the state, including Dunedin, where people from all over the world attend. And whereas no fewer than 10 Highland games and Celtic festivals are held each year throughout the state, including Dunedin, where people from all over the world attend. And whereas we commend the organizations in Dunedin who honor Scottish heritage traditions and culture, such as the Scottish American Society, Scottish American Military Society, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, and the New World Celts. And whereas we commend the organizations in Dunedin who honor Scottish heritage traditions and culture, such as the Scottish American Society, Scottish American Military Society, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, and the New World Celts. And whereas we commend the organizations in Dunedin who honor Scottish heritage traditions and culture, such as the Scottish American Society, Scottish American Military Society, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, and the New World Celts. And whereas we commend the organizations in Dunedin who honor Scottish heritage traditions and culture, such as the Scottish American Society, Scottish American Military Society, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, and the New World Celts. And whereas we commend the organizations in Dunedin who honor Scottish heritage traditions and culture, such as the Scottish American Society, Scottish American Military Society, the Dunedin Scottish Arts Foundation, and the New World Celts. Now, therefore, I, Tom Dugard, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim April 6, 2026, as National Tartan Day in Dunedin, Now, therefore, I, Tom Dugard, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim April 6, 2026, as National Tartan Day in Dunedin, Now, therefore, I, Tom Dugard, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim April 6, 2026, as National Tartan Day in Dunedin, Now, therefore, I, Tom Dugard, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim April 6, 2026, as National Tartan Day in Dunedin, Now, therefore, I, Tom Dugard, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the mayor of the city of Dunedin, Florida, and on behalf of the entire city commission, do hereby proclaim April 6, 2026, as National Tartan Day in Dunedin, and urge our citizens to observe this holiday by celebrating the continued friendship between the people of Scotland and the United States and urge our citizens to observe this holiday by celebrating the continued friendship between the people of Scotland and the United States and urge our citizens to observe this holiday by celebrating the continued friendship between the people of Scotland and the United States and urge our citizens to observe this holiday by celebrating the continued friendship between the people of Scotland and the United States and urge our citizens to observe this holiday by celebrating the continued friendship between the people of Scotland and the United States and recognize the contributions of Scottish Americans to our nation, the state of Florida, and the great city of Dunedin. and recognize the contributions of Scottish Americans to our nation, the state of Florida, and the great city of Dunedin. and recognize the contributions of Scottish Americans to our nation, the state of Florida, and the great city of Dunedin. and recognize the contributions of Scottish Americans to our nation, the state of Florida, and the great city of Dunedin. and recognize the contributions of Scottish Americans to our nation, the state of Florida, and the great city of Dunedin. Who's going to accept? There we go. Put the pretty one up here for it. Who's going to accept? There we go. Put the pretty one up here for it. Who's going to accept? There we go. Put the pretty one up here for it. Who's going to accept? There we go. Put the pretty one up here for it. Who's going to accept? There we go. Put the pretty one up here for it.
Hi, everybody. I'm Joan McHale. I'm the president of the Scottish American Society of Dunedin. Hi, everybody. I'm Joan McHale. I'm the president of the Scottish American Society of Dunedin. Hi, everybody. I'm Joan McHale. I'm the president of the Scottish American Society of Dunedin. Hi, everybody. I'm Joan McHale. I'm the president of the Scottish American Society of Dunedin. Hi, everybody. I'm Joan McHale. I'm the president of the Scottish American Society of Dunedin. And I'm up here with my board of directors, Dave, Alan, Jerry, and our newest member, Ian Craig. And I'm up here with my board of directors, Dave, Alan, Jerry, and our newest member, Ian Craig. And I'm up here with my board of directors, Dave, Alan, Jerry, and our newest member, Ian Craig. And I'm up here with my board of directors, Dave, Alan, Jerry, and our newest member, Ian Craig. And I'm up here with my board of directors, Dave, Alan, Jerry, and our newest member, Ian Craig. Where's Debbie? Where's Debbie? Where's Debbie? Where's Debbie? Where's Debbie? She's back there. She's back there. She's back there. She's back there. She's back there. Oh, Debbie didn't come up. Debbie's a member. Come on, Debbie. Oh, Debbie didn't come up. Debbie's a member. Come on, Debbie. Oh, Debbie didn't come up. Debbie's a member. Come on, Debbie. Oh, Debbie didn't come up. Debbie's a member. Come on, Debbie. Oh, Debbie didn't come up. Debbie's a member. Come on, Debbie. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. I'm happy to accept this proclamation on behalf of the SAS and our members. I'm happy to accept this proclamation on behalf of the SAS and our members. I'm happy to accept this proclamation on behalf of the SAS and our members. I'm happy to accept this proclamation on behalf of the SAS and our members. I'm happy to accept this proclamation on behalf of the SAS and our members. And as that proclamation states, Tartan Day recognizes the contributions of the Scottish Americans and the Foundation of America. And as that proclamation states, Tartan Day recognizes the contributions of the Scottish Americans and the Foundation of America. And as that proclamation states, Tartan Day recognizes the contributions of the Scottish Americans and the Foundation of America. And as that proclamation states, Tartan Day recognizes the contributions of the Scottish Americans and the Foundation of America. And as that proclamation states, Tartan Day recognizes the contributions of the Scottish Americans and the Foundation of America. Here in America, here in Dunedin, we celebrate Scottishness quite a bit, and I love seeing you all in your kilts tonight. Here in America, here in Dunedin, we celebrate Scottishness quite a bit, and I love seeing you all in your kilts tonight. Here in America, here in Dunedin, we celebrate Scottishness quite a bit, and I love seeing you all in your kilts tonight. Here in America, here in Dunedin, we celebrate Scottishness quite a bit, and I love seeing you all in your kilts tonight. Here in America, here in Dunedin, we celebrate Scottishness quite a bit, and I love seeing you all in your kilts tonight. We have a week of events kicking off tonight with this formal proclamation. We have a week of events kicking off tonight with this formal proclamation. We have a week of events kicking off tonight with this formal proclamation. We have a week of events kicking off tonight with this formal proclamation. We have a week of events kicking off tonight with this formal proclamation. On Saturday, we are having a Scottish event. It's a Scottish heritage event. It's free to attend. On Saturday, we are having a Scottish event. It's a Scottish heritage event. It's free to attend. On Saturday, we are having a Scottish event. It's a Scottish heritage event. It's free to attend. On Saturday, we are having a Scottish event. It's a Scottish heritage event. It's free to attend. On Saturday, we are having a Scottish event. It's a Scottish heritage event. It's free to attend. We've got plenty of topics to talk about. We've got free samples of Scottish foods and music and drink. We've got plenty of topics to talk about. We've got free samples of Scottish foods and music and drink. We've got plenty of topics to talk about. We've got free samples of Scottish foods and music and drink. We've got plenty of topics to talk about. We've got free samples of Scottish foods and music and drink. We've got plenty of topics to talk about. We've got free samples of Scottish foods and music and drink. We often get asked, what's Scottish about Dunedin? So we're going to tell you on Saturday. We often get asked, what's Scottish about Dunedin? So we're going to tell you on Saturday. We often get asked, what's Scottish about Dunedin? So we're going to tell you on Saturday. We often get asked, what's Scottish about Dunedin? So we're going to tell you on Saturday. We often get asked, what's Scottish about Dunedin? So we're going to tell you on Saturday. Tuesday, we've got a concert with a band coming from Scotland. Tuesday, we've got a concert with a band coming from Scotland. Tuesday, we've got a concert with a band coming from Scotland. Tuesday, we've got a concert with a band coming from Scotland. Tuesday, we've got a concert with a band coming from Scotland. They're one of the most famous traditional music bands in Scotland. They're one of the most famous traditional music bands in Scotland. They're one of the most famous traditional music bands in Scotland. They're one of the most famous traditional music bands in Scotland. They're one of the most famous traditional music bands in Scotland. They're called Brebach. And that leads up to next Friday and Saturday. They're called Brebach. And that leads up to next Friday and Saturday. They're called Brebach. And that leads up to next Friday and Saturday. They're called Brebach. And that leads up to next Friday and Saturday. They're called Brebach. And that leads up to next Friday and Saturday. We are participating in the parade on Friday night and also in the games on Saturday. We are participating in the parade on Friday night and also in the games on Saturday. We are participating in the parade on Friday night and also in the games on Saturday. We are participating in the parade on Friday night and also in the games on Saturday. We are participating in the parade on Friday night and also in the games on Saturday. We have a couple of tents for our members to come and enjoy and watch. We have a couple of tents for our members to come and enjoy and watch. We have a couple of tents for our members to come and enjoy and watch. We have a couple of tents for our members to come and enjoy and watch. We have a couple of tents for our members to come and enjoy and watch. So the note about the... So the note about the... So the note about the... So the note about the... So the note about the... I want to tie into the VFW where they just had their... I want to tie into the VFW where they just had their... I want to tie into the VFW where they just had their... I want to tie into the VFW where they just had their... I want to tie into the VFW where they just had their... They accepted that proclamation. They accepted that proclamation. They accepted that proclamation. They accepted that proclamation. They accepted that proclamation. Over the past year, we've had several members of the VFW join us. Over the past year, we've had several members of the VFW join us. Over the past year, we've had several members of the VFW join us. Over the past year, we've had several members of the VFW join us. Over the past year, we've had several members of the VFW join us. They're a lot of fun. They're enthusiastic. They're a lot of fun. They're enthusiastic. They're a lot of fun. They're enthusiastic. They're a lot of fun. They're enthusiastic. They're a lot of fun. They're enthusiastic. They come to all our happy hours. They come to all our happy hours. They come to all our happy hours. They come to all our happy hours. They come to all our happy hours. Well, what they've done is they've designed their own tartan and they've purchased kilts Well, what they've done is they've designed their own tartan and they've purchased kilts Well, what they've done is they've designed their own tartan and they've purchased kilts Well, what they've done is they've designed their own tartan and they've purchased kilts Well, what they've done is they've designed their own tartan and they've purchased kilts and they're going to march with us in the parade. and they're going to march with us in the parade. and they're going to march with us in the parade. and they're going to march with us in the parade. and they're going to march with us in the parade. So it's a great bunch of people and it was quite timely that you mentioned that. So it's a great bunch of people and it was quite timely that you mentioned that. So it's a great bunch of people and it was quite timely that you mentioned that. So it's a great bunch of people and it was quite timely that you mentioned that. So it's a great bunch of people and it was quite timely that you mentioned that. Last year, Alan and I went to New York City and we marched in the tartan day parade there. Last year, Alan and I went to New York City and we marched in the tartan day parade there. Last year, Alan and I went to New York City and we marched in the tartan day parade there. Last year, Alan and I went to New York City and we marched in the tartan day parade there. Last year, Alan and I went to New York City and we marched in the tartan day parade there. And next month, we're going to Scotland and we're going to march in the tartan day parade in Edinburgh. And next month, we're going to Scotland and we're going to march in the tartan day parade in Edinburgh. And next month, we're going to Scotland and we're going to march in the tartan day parade in Edinburgh. And next month, we're going to Scotland and we're going to march in the tartan day parade in Edinburgh. And next month, we're going to Scotland and we're going to march in the tartan day parade in Edinburgh. All representing the city of Dunedin and the Scottish American Society. All representing the city of Dunedin and the Scottish American Society. All representing the city of Dunedin and the Scottish American Society. All representing the city of Dunedin and the Scottish American Society. All representing the city of Dunedin and the Scottish American Society. So that's it. So that's it. So that's it. So that's it. So that's it. I just want to thank you for your recognition of the Scottish arts and support. I just want to thank you for your recognition of the Scottish arts and support. I just want to thank you for your recognition of the Scottish arts and support. I just want to thank you for your recognition of the Scottish arts and support. I just want to thank you for your recognition of the Scottish arts and support. Let's get a picture. Let's get a picture. Let's get a picture. Let's get a picture. Let's get a picture. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I do want to recognize in the audience tonight is Colin and Elsbeth are here. I do want to recognize in the audience tonight is Colin and Elsbeth are here. I do want to recognize in the audience tonight is Colin and Elsbeth are here. I do want to recognize in the audience tonight is Colin and Elsbeth are here. I do want to recognize in the audience tonight is Colin and Elsbeth are here. They're former provost of Sterling. They're former provost of Sterling. They're former provost of Sterling. They're former provost of Sterling. They're former provost of Sterling. You guys want to stand and be recognized? You guys want to stand and be recognized? You guys want to stand and be recognized? You guys want to stand and be recognized? You guys want to stand and be recognized? They're Dunedin part-time visitors, but they're back now from Scotland. They're Dunedin part-time visitors, but they're back now from Scotland. They're Dunedin part-time visitors, but they're back now from Scotland. They're Dunedin part-time visitors, but they're back now from Scotland. They're Dunedin part-time visitors, but they're back now from Scotland. So, okay, we're going to actually try to get into some real meeting stuff here. So, okay, we're going to actually try to get into some real meeting stuff here. So, okay, we're going to actually try to get into some real meeting stuff here. So, okay, we're going to actually try to get into some real meeting stuff here. So, okay, we're going to actually try to get into some real meeting stuff here. We got, that was important stuff though. We got, that was important stuff though. We got, that was important stuff though. We got, that was important stuff though. We got, that was important stuff though. It's hard to keep it down to, try to keep it down to three, but it was hard to do tonight. It's hard to keep it down to, try to keep it down to three, but it was hard to do tonight. It's hard to keep it down to, try to keep it down to three, but it was hard to do tonight. It's hard to keep it down to, try to keep it down to three, but it was hard to do tonight. It's hard to keep it down to, try to keep it down to three, but it was hard to do tonight. Next couple of weeks, we've got a lot, but they're important. Next couple of weeks, we've got a lot, but they're important. Next couple of weeks, we've got a lot, but they're important. Next couple of weeks, we've got a lot, but they're important. Next couple of weeks, we've got a lot, but they're important. So, citizen input, does anyone in the audience wish to speak on a topic that is not on the agenda? So, citizen input, does anyone in the audience wish to speak on a topic that is not on the agenda? So, citizen input, does anyone in the audience wish to speak on a topic that is not on the agenda? So, citizen input, does anyone in the audience wish to speak on a topic that is not on the agenda? So, citizen input, does anyone in the audience wish to speak on a topic that is not on the agenda? This would be the time to come forward. This would be the time to come forward. This would be the time to come forward. This would be the time to come forward. This would be the time to come forward. Okay, seeing no one, I will close citizen input. Okay, seeing no one, I will close citizen input. Okay, seeing no one, I will close citizen input. Okay, seeing no one, I will close citizen input. Okay, seeing no one, I will close citizen input. We'll go to consent agenda and I'll read through these. We'll go to consent agenda and I'll read through these. We'll go to consent agenda and I'll read through these. We'll go to consent agenda and I'll read through these. We'll go to consent agenda and I'll read through these. We've got approval of the minutes for the February 5th, 2026 regular meeting, February 19th, 2026 regular meeting. We've got approval of the minutes for the February 5th, 2026 regular meeting, February 19th, 2026 regular meeting. We've got approval of the minutes for the February 5th, 2026 regular meeting, February 19th, 2026 regular meeting. We've got approval of the minutes for the February 5th, 2026 regular meeting, February 19th, 2026 regular meeting. We've got approval of the minutes for the February 5th, 2026 regular meeting, February 19th, 2026 regular meeting. We have board and committee appointments for Committee on Environmental Quality and Sustainability, Historic Preservation Advisory Committee, Library Advisory Committee. We have board and committee appointments for Committee on Environmental Quality and Sustainability, Historic Preservation Advisory Committee, Library Advisory Committee. We have board and committee appointments for Committee on Environmental Quality and Sustainability, Historic Preservation Advisory Committee, Library Advisory Committee. We have board and committee appointments for Committee on Environmental Quality and Sustainability, Historic Preservation Advisory Committee, Library Advisory Committee. We have board and committee appointments for Committee on Environmental Quality and Sustainability, Historic Preservation Advisory Committee, Library Advisory Committee. We also have 2C, which is RFP number 25-2535, Loan Grant Administration and Compliance Services. We also have 2C, which is RFP number 25-2535, Loan Grant Administration and Compliance Services. We also have 2C, which is RFP number 25-2535, Loan Grant Administration and Compliance Services. We also have 2C, which is RFP number 25-2535, Loan Grant Administration and Compliance Services. We also have 2C, which is RFP number 25-2535, Loan Grant Administration and Compliance Services. Does anyone wish to pull any of those items? Does anyone wish to pull any of those items? Does anyone wish to pull any of those items? Does anyone wish to pull any of those items? Does anyone wish to pull any of those items? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Then I would need a motion to approve. Then I would need a motion to approve. Then I would need a motion to approve. Then I would need a motion to approve. Then I would need a motion to approve.
So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. Second that. Second that. Second that. Second that. Second that.
And does anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak to any of the items on the consent agenda? And does anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak to any of the items on the consent agenda? And does anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak to any of the items on the consent agenda? And does anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak to any of the items on the consent agenda? And does anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak to any of the items on the consent agenda? Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. And all in favor? And all in favor? And all in favor? And all in favor? And all in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. And any opposed? And any opposed? And any opposed? And any opposed? And any opposed? Motion passed unanimously. Motion passed unanimously. Motion passed unanimously. Motion passed unanimously. Motion passed unanimously. Okay, we'll go to action items. Okay, we'll go to action items. Okay, we'll go to action items. Okay, we'll go to action items. Okay, we'll go to action items. Our first action item, consideration and approval of Resolution 26-04 of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Our first action item, consideration and approval of Resolution 26-04 of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Our first action item, consideration and approval of Resolution 26-04 of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Our first action item, consideration and approval of Resolution 26-04 of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Our first action item, consideration and approval of Resolution 26-04 of the City of Dunedin, Florida, approving a Skinner Boulevard Landscaping and Irrigation Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation. approving a Skinner Boulevard Landscaping and Irrigation Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation. approving a Skinner Boulevard Landscaping and Irrigation Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation. approving a Skinner Boulevard Landscaping and Irrigation Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation. approving a Skinner Boulevard Landscaping and Irrigation Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation. Jen, could you please read Resolution 26-04 by title only? Jen, could you please read Resolution 26-04 by title only? Jen, could you please read Resolution 26-04 by title only? Jen, could you please read Resolution 26-04 by title only? Jen, could you please read Resolution 26-04 by title only?
Resolution 26-04, Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Resolution 26-04, Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Resolution 26-04, Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Resolution 26-04, Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Dunedin, Florida, Resolution 26-04, Resolution of the City Commission of the City of Dunedin, Florida, authorizing the execution of the Highway Landscape Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement authorizing the execution of the Highway Landscape Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement authorizing the execution of the Highway Landscape Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement authorizing the execution of the Highway Landscape Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement authorizing the execution of the Highway Landscape Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement between the State of Florida Department of Transportation and the City for Landscaping and Irrigation System Operation, between the State of Florida Department of Transportation and the City for Landscaping and Irrigation System Operation, between the State of Florida Department of Transportation and the City for Landscaping and Irrigation System Operation, between the State of Florida Department of Transportation and the City for Landscaping and Irrigation System Operation, between the State of Florida Department of Transportation and the City for Landscaping and Irrigation System Operation, Maintenance, and Cost of Water within the Right-of-Way on Skinner Boulevard, State Road 580, Maintenance, and Cost of Water within the Right-of-Way on Skinner Boulevard, State Road 580, Maintenance, and Cost of Water within the Right-of-Way on Skinner Boulevard, State Road 580, Maintenance, and Cost of Water within the Right-of-Way on Skinner Boulevard, State Road 580, Maintenance, and Cost of Water within the Right-of-Way on Skinner Boulevard, State Road 580, between Bass Boulevard, Main Street, and Broadway Alternate US-19, and providing for an effective date. between Bass Boulevard, Main Street, and Broadway Alternate US-19, and providing for an effective date. between Bass Boulevard, Main Street, and Broadway Alternate US-19, and providing for an effective date. between Bass Boulevard, Main Street, and Broadway Alternate US-19, and providing for an effective date. between Bass Boulevard, Main Street, and Broadway Alternate US-19, and providing for an effective date. That was Resolution 260-04, read by title only. That was Resolution 260-04, read by title only. That was Resolution 260-04, read by title only. That was Resolution 260-04, read by title only. That was Resolution 260-04, read by title only.
Okay, could I have a motion? Okay, could I have a motion? Okay, could I have a motion? Okay, could I have a motion? Okay, could I have a motion?
So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second.
And staff presentation, Bob and Matt, I'll turn to you. And staff presentation, Bob and Matt, I'll turn to you. And staff presentation, Bob and Matt, I'll turn to you. And staff presentation, Bob and Matt, I'll turn to you. And staff presentation, Bob and Matt, I'll turn to you.
Yep, good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. Yep, good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. Yep, good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. Yep, good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. Yep, good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. It's Bob Ironsmith and Matt Jackson from Economic Development. It's Bob Ironsmith and Matt Jackson from Economic Development. It's Bob Ironsmith and Matt Jackson from Economic Development. It's Bob Ironsmith and Matt Jackson from Economic Development. It's Bob Ironsmith and Matt Jackson from Economic Development. This is continuing with the process for the Skinner Complete Streets Project. This is continuing with the process for the Skinner Complete Streets Project. This is continuing with the process for the Skinner Complete Streets Project. This is continuing with the process for the Skinner Complete Streets Project. This is continuing with the process for the Skinner Complete Streets Project. Obviously, that's four lanes, the two lanes, the two roundabouts. Obviously, that's four lanes, the two lanes, the two roundabouts. Obviously, that's four lanes, the two lanes, the two roundabouts. Obviously, that's four lanes, the two lanes, the two roundabouts. Obviously, that's four lanes, the two lanes, the two roundabouts. We have the bike lanes and the sidewalk. We have the bike lanes and the sidewalk. We have the bike lanes and the sidewalk. We have the bike lanes and the sidewalk. We have the bike lanes and the sidewalk. Everything looks pretty good. Everything looks pretty good. Everything looks pretty good. Everything looks pretty good. Everything looks pretty good. But the next step is really going forward with landscaping and underground utilities. But the next step is really going forward with landscaping and underground utilities. But the next step is really going forward with landscaping and underground utilities. But the next step is really going forward with landscaping and underground utilities. But the next step is really going forward with landscaping and underground utilities. And Matt Jackson is going to go through a little bit of PowerPoint on the landscaping. And Matt Jackson is going to go through a little bit of PowerPoint on the landscaping. And Matt Jackson is going to go through a little bit of PowerPoint on the landscaping. And Matt Jackson is going to go through a little bit of PowerPoint on the landscaping. And Matt Jackson is going to go through a little bit of PowerPoint on the landscaping. He's been dealing with DOT. He's been dealing with DOT. He's been dealing with DOT. He's been dealing with DOT. He's been dealing with DOT. This is an important element. This is an important element. This is an important element. This is an important element. This is an important element. This is the maintenance agreement that will continue forward after DOT gets it in. This is the maintenance agreement that will continue forward after DOT gets it in. This is the maintenance agreement that will continue forward after DOT gets it in. This is the maintenance agreement that will continue forward after DOT gets it in. This is the maintenance agreement that will continue forward after DOT gets it in. So at this point in time, I'd really like to turn it over to Matt. So at this point in time, I'd really like to turn it over to Matt. So at this point in time, I'd really like to turn it over to Matt. So at this point in time, I'd really like to turn it over to Matt. So at this point in time, I'd really like to turn it over to Matt. He's going to go ahead and run through it. He's going to go ahead and run through it. He's going to go ahead and run through it. He's going to go ahead and run through it. He's going to go ahead and run through it. He's got some graphics. He's got some graphics. He's got some graphics. He's got some graphics. He's got some graphics. He'll show what's going to happen in the roundtable. He'll show what's going to happen in the roundtable. He'll show what's going to happen in the roundtable. He'll show what's going to happen in the roundtable. He'll show what's going to happen in the roundtable. And, of course, we also have DOT representative here, too. And, of course, we also have DOT representative here, too. And, of course, we also have DOT representative here, too. And, of course, we also have DOT representative here, too. And, of course, we also have DOT representative here, too. So, Matt. So, Matt. So, Matt. So, Matt. So, Matt.
Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Bob. Good evening, Commission. Good evening, Commission. Good evening, Commission. Good evening, Commission. Good evening, Commission. Matt Jackson, Economic Development Manager. Matt Jackson, Economic Development Manager. Matt Jackson, Economic Development Manager. Matt Jackson, Economic Development Manager. Matt Jackson, Economic Development Manager. Glad to be here tonight. Glad to be here tonight. Glad to be here tonight. Glad to be here tonight. Glad to be here tonight. Yes, as Bob talked about, we're speaking tonight on the next phase of the Skinner Boulevard improvements. Yes, as Bob talked about, we're speaking tonight on the next phase of the Skinner Boulevard improvements. Yes, as Bob talked about, we're speaking tonight on the next phase of the Skinner Boulevard improvements. Yes, as Bob talked about, we're speaking tonight on the next phase of the Skinner Boulevard improvements. Yes, as Bob talked about, we're speaking tonight on the next phase of the Skinner Boulevard improvements. It is the landscape and irrigation. It is the landscape and irrigation. It is the landscape and irrigation. It is the landscape and irrigation. It is the landscape and irrigation. This is a Florida Department of Transportation project. This is a Florida Department of Transportation project. This is a Florida Department of Transportation project. This is a Florida Department of Transportation project. This is a Florida Department of Transportation project. As part of that project, there will be a memorandum of agreement for maintenance of the landscape and irrigation improvements, As part of that project, there will be a memorandum of agreement for maintenance of the landscape and irrigation improvements, As part of that project, there will be a memorandum of agreement for maintenance of the landscape and irrigation improvements, As part of that project, there will be a memorandum of agreement for maintenance of the landscape and irrigation improvements, As part of that project, there will be a memorandum of agreement for maintenance of the landscape and irrigation improvements, maintenance that the city of Dunedin will take on. maintenance that the city of Dunedin will take on. maintenance that the city of Dunedin will take on. maintenance that the city of Dunedin will take on. maintenance that the city of Dunedin will take on. As part of the agreement, we'll be responsible for things such as very typical things, mowing, watering, fertilizing, irrigation maintenance, and weed control. As part of the agreement, we'll be responsible for things such as very typical things, mowing, watering, fertilizing, irrigation maintenance, and weed control. As part of the agreement, we'll be responsible for things such as very typical things, mowing, watering, fertilizing, irrigation maintenance, and weed control. As part of the agreement, we'll be responsible for things such as very typical things, mowing, watering, fertilizing, irrigation maintenance, and weed control. As part of the agreement, we'll be responsible for things such as very typical things, mowing, watering, fertilizing, irrigation maintenance, and weed control. We did contact Parks and Recreation regarding the annual cost for that maintenance. We did contact Parks and Recreation regarding the annual cost for that maintenance. We did contact Parks and Recreation regarding the annual cost for that maintenance. We did contact Parks and Recreation regarding the annual cost for that maintenance. We did contact Parks and Recreation regarding the annual cost for that maintenance. That's going to be approximately $15,000. That's going to be approximately $15,000. That's going to be approximately $15,000. That's going to be approximately $15,000. That's going to be approximately $15,000. Regarding the timeline of the project, the bid letting will happen next week, April 8th, by DOT, with an expected bid award May to June of this year. Regarding the timeline of the project, the bid letting will happen next week, April 8th, by DOT, with an expected bid award May to June of this year. Regarding the timeline of the project, the bid letting will happen next week, April 8th, by DOT, with an expected bid award May to June of this year. Regarding the timeline of the project, the bid letting will happen next week, April 8th, by DOT, with an expected bid award May to June of this year. Regarding the timeline of the project, the bid letting will happen next week, April 8th, by DOT, with an expected bid award May to June of this year. After that, the installation should start in fall of this year, wrapping up with the latest spring of 27. After that, the installation should start in fall of this year, wrapping up with the latest spring of 27. After that, the installation should start in fall of this year, wrapping up with the latest spring of 27. After that, the installation should start in fall of this year, wrapping up with the latest spring of 27. After that, the installation should start in fall of this year, wrapping up with the latest spring of 27. This is important as part of this project, there will be a two-year establishment period for the landscaping. This is important as part of this project, there will be a two-year establishment period for the landscaping. This is important as part of this project, there will be a two-year establishment period for the landscaping. This is important as part of this project, there will be a two-year establishment period for the landscaping. This is important as part of this project, there will be a two-year establishment period for the landscaping. During that time, DOT and their contractor will be responsible for the maintenance. During that time, DOT and their contractor will be responsible for the maintenance. During that time, DOT and their contractor will be responsible for the maintenance. During that time, DOT and their contractor will be responsible for the maintenance. During that time, DOT and their contractor will be responsible for the maintenance. It's not until after the project is finally accepted by DOT that the transfer of the maintenance would come to the city of Dunedin. It's not until after the project is finally accepted by DOT that the transfer of the maintenance would come to the city of Dunedin. It's not until after the project is finally accepted by DOT that the transfer of the maintenance would come to the city of Dunedin. It's not until after the project is finally accepted by DOT that the transfer of the maintenance would come to the city of Dunedin. It's not until after the project is finally accepted by DOT that the transfer of the maintenance would come to the city of Dunedin. We contacted DOT, and the approximate cost for these improvements is $1.1 million contributed by DOT. We contacted DOT, and the approximate cost for these improvements is $1.1 million contributed by DOT. We contacted DOT, and the approximate cost for these improvements is $1.1 million contributed by DOT. We contacted DOT, and the approximate cost for these improvements is $1.1 million contributed by DOT. We contacted DOT, and the approximate cost for these improvements is $1.1 million contributed by DOT. Very thankful for this partnership. Very thankful for this partnership. Very thankful for this partnership. Very thankful for this partnership. Very thankful for this partnership. And on this slide, what staff wanted to do is provide a visual representation of some of the landscaping that you would see in the area on Skinner Boulevard, And on this slide, what staff wanted to do is provide a visual representation of some of the landscaping that you would see in the area on Skinner Boulevard, And on this slide, what staff wanted to do is provide a visual representation of some of the landscaping that you would see in the area on Skinner Boulevard, And on this slide, what staff wanted to do is provide a visual representation of some of the landscaping that you would see in the area on Skinner Boulevard, And on this slide, what staff wanted to do is provide a visual representation of some of the landscaping that you would see in the area on Skinner Boulevard, but specific to the roundabouts, which are probably going to be the focal points, and there's going to be a variety of palm trees, bushes, and ground covers. but specific to the roundabouts, which are probably going to be the focal points, and there's going to be a variety of palm trees, bushes, and ground covers. but specific to the roundabouts, which are probably going to be the focal points, and there's going to be a variety of palm trees, bushes, and ground covers. but specific to the roundabouts, which are probably going to be the focal points, and there's going to be a variety of palm trees, bushes, and ground covers. but specific to the roundabouts, which are probably going to be the focal points, and there's going to be a variety of palm trees, bushes, and ground covers. This landscaping is going to be part of a Florida-friendly plant palette, well-suited to the local climate, This landscaping is going to be part of a Florida-friendly plant palette, well-suited to the local climate, This landscaping is going to be part of a Florida-friendly plant palette, well-suited to the local climate, This landscaping is going to be part of a Florida-friendly plant palette, well-suited to the local climate, This landscaping is going to be part of a Florida-friendly plant palette, well-suited to the local climate, offering drought tolerance and low-maintenance characteristics, which would result in reducing long-term irrigation and upkeep costs. offering drought tolerance and low-maintenance characteristics, which would result in reducing long-term irrigation and upkeep costs. offering drought tolerance and low-maintenance characteristics, which would result in reducing long-term irrigation and upkeep costs. offering drought tolerance and low-maintenance characteristics, which would result in reducing long-term irrigation and upkeep costs. offering drought tolerance and low-maintenance characteristics, which would result in reducing long-term irrigation and upkeep costs. The design is going to create an aesthetically pleasing, vibrant environment that enhances the visual appeal of the area The design is going to create an aesthetically pleasing, vibrant environment that enhances the visual appeal of the area The design is going to create an aesthetically pleasing, vibrant environment that enhances the visual appeal of the area The design is going to create an aesthetically pleasing, vibrant environment that enhances the visual appeal of the area The design is going to create an aesthetically pleasing, vibrant environment that enhances the visual appeal of the area while maintaining clear sight lines and non-distracting driver environment. while maintaining clear sight lines and non-distracting driver environment. while maintaining clear sight lines and non-distracting driver environment. while maintaining clear sight lines and non-distracting driver environment. while maintaining clear sight lines and non-distracting driver environment. Again, we're very excited about this project, and we do recommend approval and execution of the agreement and the associated resolution. Again, we're very excited about this project, and we do recommend approval and execution of the agreement and the associated resolution. Again, we're very excited about this project, and we do recommend approval and execution of the agreement and the associated resolution. Again, we're very excited about this project, and we do recommend approval and execution of the agreement and the associated resolution. Again, we're very excited about this project, and we do recommend approval and execution of the agreement and the associated resolution. We're happy to answer any questions. We're happy to answer any questions. We're happy to answer any questions. We're happy to answer any questions. We're happy to answer any questions. We do also have Emily here from DOT, the landscape architect and project manager, as well as Tony Mulkey, the Parks and Recreation Director. We do also have Emily here from DOT, the landscape architect and project manager, as well as Tony Mulkey, the Parks and Recreation Director. We do also have Emily here from DOT, the landscape architect and project manager, as well as Tony Mulkey, the Parks and Recreation Director. We do also have Emily here from DOT, the landscape architect and project manager, as well as Tony Mulkey, the Parks and Recreation Director. We do also have Emily here from DOT, the landscape architect and project manager, as well as Tony Mulkey, the Parks and Recreation Director.
Okay, questions for staff, starting with Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions for staff, starting with Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions for staff, starting with Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions for staff, starting with Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions for staff, starting with Commissioner Gao.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. With climate change and summer's getting hotter almost year-round now, why aren't there any shade trees on the list? With climate change and summer's getting hotter almost year-round now, why aren't there any shade trees on the list? With climate change and summer's getting hotter almost year-round now, why aren't there any shade trees on the list? With climate change and summer's getting hotter almost year-round now, why aren't there any shade trees on the list? With climate change and summer's getting hotter almost year-round now, why aren't there any shade trees on the list?
There are shade trees proposed, just not within the roundabouts. There are shade trees proposed, just not within the roundabouts. There are shade trees proposed, just not within the roundabouts. There are shade trees proposed, just not within the roundabouts. There are shade trees proposed, just not within the roundabouts. There's a variety of elm trees, oak trees, eagles and hollies proposed, just not right within the roundabouts, There's a variety of elm trees, oak trees, eagles and hollies proposed, just not right within the roundabouts, There's a variety of elm trees, oak trees, eagles and hollies proposed, just not right within the roundabouts, There's a variety of elm trees, oak trees, eagles and hollies proposed, just not right within the roundabouts, There's a variety of elm trees, oak trees, eagles and hollies proposed, just not right within the roundabouts, more in the medians and on the northern and southern landscaped areas on the right-of-way. more in the medians and on the northern and southern landscaped areas on the right-of-way. more in the medians and on the northern and southern landscaped areas on the right-of-way. more in the medians and on the northern and southern landscaped areas on the right-of-way. more in the medians and on the northern and southern landscaped areas on the right-of-way.
Okay, so this proposal before us tonight isn't for the entire Skinner Boulevard? Okay, so this proposal before us tonight isn't for the entire Skinner Boulevard? Okay, so this proposal before us tonight isn't for the entire Skinner Boulevard? Okay, so this proposal before us tonight isn't for the entire Skinner Boulevard? Okay, so this proposal before us tonight isn't for the entire Skinner Boulevard?
The proposal is, yes, for the entire Skinner Boulevard. The proposal is, yes, for the entire Skinner Boulevard. The proposal is, yes, for the entire Skinner Boulevard. The proposal is, yes, for the entire Skinner Boulevard. The proposal is, yes, for the entire Skinner Boulevard. We didn't have a 3-D or a colored visual for the entire area, so what we wanted to do is provide at least some representation visually of what will be planted, We didn't have a 3-D or a colored visual for the entire area, so what we wanted to do is provide at least some representation visually of what will be planted, We didn't have a 3-D or a colored visual for the entire area, so what we wanted to do is provide at least some representation visually of what will be planted, We didn't have a 3-D or a colored visual for the entire area, so what we wanted to do is provide at least some representation visually of what will be planted, We didn't have a 3-D or a colored visual for the entire area, so what we wanted to do is provide at least some representation visually of what will be planted, and we focused in on the roundabouts, which will kind of be the focal point that we expect. and we focused in on the roundabouts, which will kind of be the focal point that we expect. and we focused in on the roundabouts, which will kind of be the focal point that we expect. and we focused in on the roundabouts, which will kind of be the focal point that we expect. and we focused in on the roundabouts, which will kind of be the focal point that we expect.
Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Okay. Thank you, Mayor.
Okay. Commissioner DeGuard, questions? Okay. Commissioner DeGuard, questions? Okay. Commissioner DeGuard, questions? Okay. Commissioner DeGuard, questions? Okay. Commissioner DeGuard, questions?
So we're not seeing the complete landscaping of the project at this time. So we're not seeing the complete landscaping of the project at this time. So we're not seeing the complete landscaping of the project at this time. So we're not seeing the complete landscaping of the project at this time. So we're not seeing the complete landscaping of the project at this time. We're just seeing some representations. Is that correct? We're just seeing some representations. Is that correct? We're just seeing some representations. Is that correct? We're just seeing some representations. Is that correct? We're just seeing some representations. Is that correct?
The complete landscape plans are part of the agenda packet. The complete landscape plans are part of the agenda packet. The complete landscape plans are part of the agenda packet. The complete landscape plans are part of the agenda packet. The complete landscape plans are part of the agenda packet. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. But it's more just your 2-D black and white, showing where all the landscape plantings are with the symbols. But it's more just your 2-D black and white, showing where all the landscape plantings are with the symbols. But it's more just your 2-D black and white, showing where all the landscape plantings are with the symbols. But it's more just your 2-D black and white, showing where all the landscape plantings are with the symbols. But it's more just your 2-D black and white, showing where all the landscape plantings are with the symbols. We also just wanted to have a visual representation of what you would see out there. We also just wanted to have a visual representation of what you would see out there. We also just wanted to have a visual representation of what you would see out there. We also just wanted to have a visual representation of what you would see out there. We also just wanted to have a visual representation of what you would see out there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Are we going to see any of the larger palms in the center of the roundabouts? Are we going to see any of the larger palms in the center of the roundabouts? Are we going to see any of the larger palms in the center of the roundabouts? Are we going to see any of the larger palms in the center of the roundabouts? Are we going to see any of the larger palms in the center of the roundabouts? Is that what we're going to see? Is that what we're going to see? Is that what we're going to see? Is that what we're going to see? Is that what we're going to see?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So on the slide in front of you, the royal palm, there will be one large in the center roundabouts, So on the slide in front of you, the royal palm, there will be one large in the center roundabouts, So on the slide in front of you, the royal palm, there will be one large in the center roundabouts, So on the slide in front of you, the royal palm, there will be one large in the center roundabouts, So on the slide in front of you, the royal palm, there will be one large in the center roundabouts, and then with the other smaller palms also within the roundabouts. and then with the other smaller palms also within the roundabouts. and then with the other smaller palms also within the roundabouts. and then with the other smaller palms also within the roundabouts. and then with the other smaller palms also within the roundabouts.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. No further questions. No further questions. No further questions. No further questions. No further questions.
Mayor, thank you. Mayor, thank you. Mayor, thank you. Mayor, thank you. Mayor, thank you.
Vice Mayor, questions? Vice Mayor, questions? Vice Mayor, questions? Vice Mayor, questions? Vice Mayor, questions?
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. So in terms of the signage and everything, because this really is establishing a brand-new gateway for the great city of Dunedin, So in terms of the signage and everything, because this really is establishing a brand-new gateway for the great city of Dunedin, So in terms of the signage and everything, because this really is establishing a brand-new gateway for the great city of Dunedin, So in terms of the signage and everything, because this really is establishing a brand-new gateway for the great city of Dunedin, So in terms of the signage and everything, because this really is establishing a brand-new gateway for the great city of Dunedin, and I'm just curious, what's the plan for the signage? and I'm just curious, what's the plan for the signage? and I'm just curious, what's the plan for the signage? and I'm just curious, what's the plan for the signage? and I'm just curious, what's the plan for the signage? Because I don't know how you do the landscaping without kind of understanding what the signage is going to look like. Because I don't know how you do the landscaping without kind of understanding what the signage is going to look like. Because I don't know how you do the landscaping without kind of understanding what the signage is going to look like. Because I don't know how you do the landscaping without kind of understanding what the signage is going to look like. Because I don't know how you do the landscaping without kind of understanding what the signage is going to look like.
Are you asking about the existing signage now, how that's going to interact with the landscaping? Are you asking about the existing signage now, how that's going to interact with the landscaping? Are you asking about the existing signage now, how that's going to interact with the landscaping? Are you asking about the existing signage now, how that's going to interact with the landscaping? Are you asking about the existing signage now, how that's going to interact with the landscaping?
Yeah, I think that's my question, yeah. Yeah, I think that's my question, yeah. Yeah, I think that's my question, yeah. Yeah, I think that's my question, yeah. Yeah, I think that's my question, yeah.
I will let Emily better answer that with DOT, but it's our understanding they took that into account when designing the plantings. I will let Emily better answer that with DOT, but it's our understanding they took that into account when designing the plantings. I will let Emily better answer that with DOT, but it's our understanding they took that into account when designing the plantings. I will let Emily better answer that with DOT, but it's our understanding they took that into account when designing the plantings. I will let Emily better answer that with DOT, but it's our understanding they took that into account when designing the plantings. Yeah, you have to come up to the mic. Yeah, you have to come up to the mic. Yeah, you have to come up to the mic. Yeah, you have to come up to the mic. Yeah, you have to come up to the mic.
You'd probably rather not, I know, but if you could just give your name and position for the record, that'd be great. You'd probably rather not, I know, but if you could just give your name and position for the record, that'd be great. You'd probably rather not, I know, but if you could just give your name and position for the record, that'd be great. You'd probably rather not, I know, but if you could just give your name and position for the record, that'd be great. You'd probably rather not, I know, but if you could just give your name and position for the record, that'd be great.
Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening. I'm Lievette de Gaetano. I'm Lievette de Gaetano. I'm Lievette de Gaetano. I'm Lievette de Gaetano. I'm Lievette de Gaetano. I'm with Patel Green and Associates, but I am a consultant for FDOT District 7. I'm with Patel Green and Associates, but I am a consultant for FDOT District 7. I'm with Patel Green and Associates, but I am a consultant for FDOT District 7. I'm with Patel Green and Associates, but I am a consultant for FDOT District 7. I'm with Patel Green and Associates, but I am a consultant for FDOT District 7. I serve as their district landscape architect. I serve as their district landscape architect. I serve as their district landscape architect. I serve as their district landscape architect. I serve as their district landscape architect. And in terms of the design, the landscape architect of record coordinated extensively with the folks that designed the roadway improvements. And in terms of the design, the landscape architect of record coordinated extensively with the folks that designed the roadway improvements. And in terms of the design, the landscape architect of record coordinated extensively with the folks that designed the roadway improvements. And in terms of the design, the landscape architect of record coordinated extensively with the folks that designed the roadway improvements. And in terms of the design, the landscape architect of record coordinated extensively with the folks that designed the roadway improvements. So any of the elements that you see out there today, the signage, the lighting, everything, that was all coordinated very intimately with the project. So any of the elements that you see out there today, the signage, the lighting, everything, that was all coordinated very intimately with the project. So any of the elements that you see out there today, the signage, the lighting, everything, that was all coordinated very intimately with the project. So any of the elements that you see out there today, the signage, the lighting, everything, that was all coordinated very intimately with the project. So any of the elements that you see out there today, the signage, the lighting, everything, that was all coordinated very intimately with the project. We were also in coordination with the FDOT project manager slash the gentleman that was in charge of the construction administration during the, when they implemented the roadway project. We were also in coordination with the FDOT project manager slash the gentleman that was in charge of the construction administration during the, when they implemented the roadway project. We were also in coordination with the FDOT project manager slash the gentleman that was in charge of the construction administration during the, when they implemented the roadway project. We were also in coordination with the FDOT project manager slash the gentleman that was in charge of the construction administration during the, when they implemented the roadway project. We were also in coordination with the FDOT project manager slash the gentleman that was in charge of the construction administration during the, when they implemented the roadway project. So we, the design that was included in your packet, which is really the construction plans, because we're, we're kind of beyond conceptual, like we're, we're about to let this forbid next week. So we, the design that was included in your packet, which is really the construction plans, because we're, we're kind of beyond conceptual, like we're, we're about to let this forbid next week. So we, the design that was included in your packet, which is really the construction plans, because we're, we're kind of beyond conceptual, like we're, we're about to let this forbid next week. So we, the design that was included in your packet, which is really the construction plans, because we're, we're kind of beyond conceptual, like we're, we're about to let this forbid next week. So we, the design that was included in your packet, which is really the construction plans, because we're, we're kind of beyond conceptual, like we're, we're about to let this forbid next week. This is just kind of the final step is getting this maintenance agreements implemented. This is just kind of the final step is getting this maintenance agreements implemented. This is just kind of the final step is getting this maintenance agreements implemented. This is just kind of the final step is getting this maintenance agreements implemented. This is just kind of the final step is getting this maintenance agreements implemented. But all of those details were coordinated extensively. But all of those details were coordinated extensively. But all of those details were coordinated extensively. But all of those details were coordinated extensively. But all of those details were coordinated extensively. The plant material that you see here, along with all the other plant material for the entire corridor, was coordinated extensively with the, with the city. The plant material that you see here, along with all the other plant material for the entire corridor, was coordinated extensively with the, with the city. The plant material that you see here, along with all the other plant material for the entire corridor, was coordinated extensively with the, with the city. The plant material that you see here, along with all the other plant material for the entire corridor, was coordinated extensively with the, with the city. The plant material that you see here, along with all the other plant material for the entire corridor, was coordinated extensively with the, with the city. There was a lot of input. There was a lot of input. There was a lot of input. There was a lot of input. There was a lot of input. And really a lot of the plant, actually the whole plant palette was, was vetted and selected and, and, and thoroughly coordinated with, with, with the city of Dunedin. And really a lot of the plant, actually the whole plant palette was, was vetted and selected and, and, and thoroughly coordinated with, with, with the city of Dunedin. And really a lot of the plant, actually the whole plant palette was, was vetted and selected and, and, and thoroughly coordinated with, with, with the city of Dunedin. And really a lot of the plant, actually the whole plant palette was, was vetted and selected and, and, and thoroughly coordinated with, with, with the city of Dunedin. And really a lot of the plant, actually the whole plant palette was, was vetted and selected and, and, and thoroughly coordinated with, with, with the city of Dunedin.
Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's what I was looking for. That's, that's what I was looking for. That's, that's what I was looking for. That's, that's what I was looking for. That's, that's what I was looking for. Um, second thing, uh, just in terms of the irrigation, I'm, I'm assuming that this, this part of the, the, the improvement on Skinner and we, it's all irrigated with reclaimed water now. Um, second thing, uh, just in terms of the irrigation, I'm, I'm assuming that this, this part of the, the, the improvement on Skinner and we, it's all irrigated with reclaimed water now. Um, second thing, uh, just in terms of the irrigation, I'm, I'm assuming that this, this part of the, the, the improvement on Skinner and we, it's all irrigated with reclaimed water now. Um, second thing, uh, just in terms of the irrigation, I'm, I'm assuming that this, this part of the, the, the improvement on Skinner and we, it's all irrigated with reclaimed water now. Um, second thing, uh, just in terms of the irrigation, I'm, I'm assuming that this, this part of the, the, the improvement on Skinner and we, it's all irrigated with reclaimed water now.
Is that correct? Is that correct? Is that correct? Is that correct? Is that correct? Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Vice mayor. Vice mayor. Vice mayor. Vice mayor. Vice mayor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All reclaimed. All reclaimed. All reclaimed. All reclaimed. All reclaimed.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the other aspect to it, and we've kind of mentioned clear site, we're going to make sure we have clear site triangles too, with all the landscaping that's going in for, you know, molecular access, turning movements and things of that nature. And the other aspect to it, and we've kind of mentioned clear site, we're going to make sure we have clear site triangles too, with all the landscaping that's going in for, you know, molecular access, turning movements and things of that nature. And the other aspect to it, and we've kind of mentioned clear site, we're going to make sure we have clear site triangles too, with all the landscaping that's going in for, you know, molecular access, turning movements and things of that nature. And the other aspect to it, and we've kind of mentioned clear site, we're going to make sure we have clear site triangles too, with all the landscaping that's going in for, you know, molecular access, turning movements and things of that nature. And the other aspect to it, and we've kind of mentioned clear site, we're going to make sure we have clear site triangles too, with all the landscaping that's going in for, you know, molecular access, turning movements and things of that nature. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
So, uh, commissioner Sandbergen, will there be any type of, um, lighting around there to, uh, sort of show the diagram or to show the, the, the, the, what that the out, the, the, uh, roundabout is there. So, uh, commissioner Sandbergen, will there be any type of, um, lighting around there to, uh, sort of show the diagram or to show the, the, the, the, what that the out, the, the, uh, roundabout is there. So, uh, commissioner Sandbergen, will there be any type of, um, lighting around there to, uh, sort of show the diagram or to show the, the, the, the, what that the out, the, the, uh, roundabout is there. So, uh, commissioner Sandbergen, will there be any type of, um, lighting around there to, uh, sort of show the diagram or to show the, the, the, the, what that the out, the, the, uh, roundabout is there. So, uh, commissioner Sandbergen, will there be any type of, um, lighting around there to, uh, sort of show the diagram or to show the, the, the, the, what that the out, the, the, uh, roundabout is there. Will there be any lighting, any landscape lighting in there at all? Will there be any lighting, any landscape lighting in there at all? Will there be any lighting, any landscape lighting in there at all? Will there be any lighting, any landscape lighting in there at all? Will there be any lighting, any landscape lighting in there at all?
Uh, this project does not propose aesthetic lighting. Uh, this project does not propose aesthetic lighting. Uh, this project does not propose aesthetic lighting. Uh, this project does not propose aesthetic lighting. Uh, this project does not propose aesthetic lighting. You mean like up lights and all that? You mean like up lights and all that? You mean like up lights and all that? You mean like up lights and all that? You mean like up lights and all that? No, that it does not propose. No, that it does not propose. No, that it does not propose. No, that it does not propose. No, that it does not propose. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And I, I, I hope the answer is what I want to hear. And I, I, I hope the answer is what I want to hear. And I, I, I hope the answer is what I want to hear. And I, I, I hope the answer is what I want to hear. And I, I, I hope the answer is what I want to hear.
The, the water lines have already been run to the, so we're not going to cut the street. The, the water lines have already been run to the, so we're not going to cut the street. The, the water lines have already been run to the, so we're not going to cut the street. The, the water lines have already been run to the, so we're not going to cut the street. The, the water lines have already been run to the, so we're not going to cut the street.
Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. That was all coordinated during the roadway. That was all coordinated during the roadway. That was all coordinated during the roadway. That was all coordinated during the roadway. That was all coordinated during the roadway. That was one of the things that, so the irrigation sleeves, um, the, the, the, the actual soil that's within the medians, all of that was excavated. That was one of the things that, so the irrigation sleeves, um, the, the, the, the actual soil that's within the medians, all of that was excavated. That was one of the things that, so the irrigation sleeves, um, the, the, the, the actual soil that's within the medians, all of that was excavated. That was one of the things that, so the irrigation sleeves, um, the, the, the, the actual soil that's within the medians, all of that was excavated. That was one of the things that, so the irrigation sleeves, um, the, the, the, the actual soil that's within the medians, all of that was excavated. They put the copper soils because they knew we were following with this project. They put the copper soils because they knew we were following with this project. They put the copper soils because they knew we were following with this project. They put the copper soils because they knew we were following with this project. They put the copper soils because they knew we were following with this project.
So I think to jump on what was said to my left, uh, you did take into consideration the drought resistant, low maintenance because of the, it's going to be out in the direct sun. So I think to jump on what was said to my left, uh, you did take into consideration the drought resistant, low maintenance because of the, it's going to be out in the direct sun. So I think to jump on what was said to my left, uh, you did take into consideration the drought resistant, low maintenance because of the, it's going to be out in the direct sun. So I think to jump on what was said to my left, uh, you did take into consideration the drought resistant, low maintenance because of the, it's going to be out in the direct sun. So I think to jump on what was said to my left, uh, you did take into consideration the drought resistant, low maintenance because of the, it's going to be out in the direct sun. Um, okay. Um, okay. Um, okay. Um, okay. Um, okay.
Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. I mean, and again, that, that was, we, we, we chose, we, we used the plant material that was, that was actually selected by the city. I mean, and again, that, that was, we, we, we chose, we, we used the plant material that was, that was actually selected by the city. I mean, and again, that, that was, we, we, we chose, we, we used the plant material that was, that was actually selected by the city. I mean, and again, that, that was, we, we, we chose, we, we used the plant material that was, that was actually selected by the city. I mean, and again, that, that was, we, we, we chose, we, we used the plant material that was, that was actually selected by the city. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, it was, yeah, I think the other thing too, parks gave a lot input too on what has survived well in the downtown. Yeah, it was, yeah, I think the other thing too, parks gave a lot input too on what has survived well in the downtown. Yeah, it was, yeah, I think the other thing too, parks gave a lot input too on what has survived well in the downtown. Yeah, it was, yeah, I think the other thing too, parks gave a lot input too on what has survived well in the downtown. Yeah, it was, yeah, I think the other thing too, parks gave a lot input too on what has survived well in the downtown.
So it was very much just. So it was very much just. So it was very much just. So it was very much just. So it was very much just. And I was going to ask, was the city arborist brought in at all? And I was going to ask, was the city arborist brought in at all? And I was going to ask, was the city arborist brought in at all? And I was going to ask, was the city arborist brought in at all? And I was going to ask, was the city arborist brought in at all?
I'm sorry? I'm sorry? I'm sorry? I'm sorry? I'm sorry? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Rick was, Tony was, Joe here was, everybody was brought in. Rick was, Tony was, Joe here was, everybody was brought in. Rick was, Tony was, Joe here was, everybody was brought in. Rick was, Tony was, Joe here was, everybody was brought in. Rick was, Tony was, Joe here was, everybody was brought in.
Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. That's all I had. That's all I had. That's all I had. That's all I had. That's all I had. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I just have one question and I'll just ask all of you. I just have one question and I'll just ask all of you. I just have one question and I'll just ask all of you. I just have one question and I'll just ask all of you. I just have one question and I'll just ask all of you. Is it going to look amazing? Is it going to look amazing? Is it going to look amazing? Is it going to look amazing? Is it going to look amazing?
I think it's going to look fantastic. I think it's going to look fantastic. I think it's going to look fantastic. I think it's going to look fantastic. I think it's going to look fantastic. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. It looks so dead now. It looks so dead now. It looks so dead now. It looks so dead now. It looks so dead now. Like, so I can't wait to drive and see it. Like, so I can't wait to drive and see it. Like, so I can't wait to drive and see it. Like, so I can't wait to drive and see it. Like, so I can't wait to drive and see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it will, but I'm partially biased. I think it will, but I'm partially biased. I think it will, but I'm partially biased. I think it will, but I'm partially biased. I think it will, but I'm partially biased.
Bob, Joe, Tony. Bob, Joe, Tony. Bob, Joe, Tony. Bob, Joe, Tony. Bob, Joe, Tony.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think DOT put in 1.1 million. I think DOT put in 1.1 million. I think DOT put in 1.1 million. I think DOT put in 1.1 million. I think DOT put in 1.1 million. This is going to be of a higher level than typically DOT does. This is going to be of a higher level than typically DOT does. This is going to be of a higher level than typically DOT does. This is going to be of a higher level than typically DOT does. This is going to be of a higher level than typically DOT does. So, yeah, this is going to look pretty good. So, yeah, this is going to look pretty good. So, yeah, this is going to look pretty good. So, yeah, this is going to look pretty good. So, yeah, this is going to look pretty good. They understood this is a DOT project, but it's in our downtown. They understood this is a DOT project, but it's in our downtown. They understood this is a DOT project, but it's in our downtown. They understood this is a DOT project, but it's in our downtown. They understood this is a DOT project, but it's in our downtown. So it's going to be a high level. So it's going to be a high level. So it's going to be a high level. So it's going to be a high level. So it's going to be a high level.
You guys want to add anything over here? You guys want to add anything over here? You guys want to add anything over here? You guys want to add anything over here? You guys want to add anything over here? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, Commission and Public. Good evening, Commission and Public. Good evening, Commission and Public. Good evening, Commission and Public. Good evening, Commission and Public. Tony Mulkey, Parks and Recreation Director. Tony Mulkey, Parks and Recreation Director. Tony Mulkey, Parks and Recreation Director. Tony Mulkey, Parks and Recreation Director. Tony Mulkey, Parks and Recreation Director. I'd just like to add one little detail on here. I'd just like to add one little detail on here. I'd just like to add one little detail on here. I'd just like to add one little detail on here. I'd just like to add one little detail on here. In the site plans that you have, it does show the larger trees and the different layers and design rather than the slide here. In the site plans that you have, it does show the larger trees and the different layers and design rather than the slide here. In the site plans that you have, it does show the larger trees and the different layers and design rather than the slide here. In the site plans that you have, it does show the larger trees and the different layers and design rather than the slide here. In the site plans that you have, it does show the larger trees and the different layers and design rather than the slide here.
But, like, if you look at the lower left on the slide here, that picture number two of a Bismarck palm, that's not what's specked in here. But, like, if you look at the lower left on the slide here, that picture number two of a Bismarck palm, that's not what's specked in here. But, like, if you look at the lower left on the slide here, that picture number two of a Bismarck palm, that's not what's specked in here. But, like, if you look at the lower left on the slide here, that picture number two of a Bismarck palm, that's not what's specked in here. But, like, if you look at the lower left on the slide here, that picture number two of a Bismarck palm, that's not what's specked in here.
It's a 10-foot clear trunk. It's a 10-foot clear trunk. It's a 10-foot clear trunk. It's a 10-foot clear trunk. It's a 10-foot clear trunk.
So these are much more mature trees than what you're seeing here, too. So these are much more mature trees than what you're seeing here, too. So these are much more mature trees than what you're seeing here, too. So these are much more mature trees than what you're seeing here, too. So these are much more mature trees than what you're seeing here, too.
Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct.
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't have any other questions. I don't have any other questions. I don't have any other questions. I don't have any other questions. I don't have any other questions. I'm going to open to public input. I'm going to open to public input. I'm going to open to public input. I'm going to open to public input. I'm going to open to public input. Anyone in the audience wish to speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to speak on this issue? Come forward now. Come forward now. Come forward now. Come forward now. Come forward now. Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. Seeing no one, I will close public input. And we'll go to Commission comments, and so, Emily, you can probably sit down, but thank you very much for that. And we'll go to Commission comments, and so, Emily, you can probably sit down, but thank you very much for that. And we'll go to Commission comments, and so, Emily, you can probably sit down, but thank you very much for that. And we'll go to Commission comments, and so, Emily, you can probably sit down, but thank you very much for that. And we'll go to Commission comments, and so, Emily, you can probably sit down, but thank you very much for that.
Good job, Emily. Good job, Emily. Good job, Emily. Good job, Emily. Good job, Emily. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay, Commission comments. Okay, Commission comments. Okay, Commission comments. Okay, Commission comments. Okay, Commission comments. I'll start with the maker of the motion, Vice Mayor. I'll start with the maker of the motion, Vice Mayor. I'll start with the maker of the motion, Vice Mayor. I'll start with the maker of the motion, Vice Mayor. I'll start with the maker of the motion, Vice Mayor.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Really no comments. Really no comments. Really no comments. Really no comments. Really no comments. You know, obviously this is representing the gateway to the great city of Dunedin, and I've got to tell you, I think collectively we're all very excited about this. You know, obviously this is representing the gateway to the great city of Dunedin, and I've got to tell you, I think collectively we're all very excited about this. You know, obviously this is representing the gateway to the great city of Dunedin, and I've got to tell you, I think collectively we're all very excited about this. You know, obviously this is representing the gateway to the great city of Dunedin, and I've got to tell you, I think collectively we're all very excited about this. You know, obviously this is representing the gateway to the great city of Dunedin, and I've got to tell you, I think collectively we're all very excited about this. So, anyway, well done to getting us to this point. So, anyway, well done to getting us to this point. So, anyway, well done to getting us to this point. So, anyway, well done to getting us to this point. So, anyway, well done to getting us to this point. So, thank you. So, thank you. So, thank you. So, thank you. So, thank you.
Okay, and seconder of the motion was Commissioner Degard. Okay, and seconder of the motion was Commissioner Degard. Okay, and seconder of the motion was Commissioner Degard. Okay, and seconder of the motion was Commissioner Degard. Okay, and seconder of the motion was Commissioner Degard.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. I think we're all excited to get to the finish line on this project. I think we're all excited to get to the finish line on this project. I think we're all excited to get to the finish line on this project. I think we're all excited to get to the finish line on this project. I think we're all excited to get to the finish line on this project. It's been a long-term project. It's been a long-term project. It's been a long-term project. It's been a long-term project. It's been a long-term project. What's been fascinating for me as a new commissioner is to watch the cycle of how the community responds to this. What's been fascinating for me as a new commissioner is to watch the cycle of how the community responds to this. What's been fascinating for me as a new commissioner is to watch the cycle of how the community responds to this. What's been fascinating for me as a new commissioner is to watch the cycle of how the community responds to this. What's been fascinating for me as a new commissioner is to watch the cycle of how the community responds to this. Everybody was kind of going, really, roundabouts? Everybody was kind of going, really, roundabouts? Everybody was kind of going, really, roundabouts? Everybody was kind of going, really, roundabouts? Everybody was kind of going, really, roundabouts? And now, I think we've converted a lot of people to the concept of roundabouts, and when we finally get it spiffed up, well-planted, and pretty, I think this is going to be a signature project we can all be proud of. And now, I think we've converted a lot of people to the concept of roundabouts, and when we finally get it spiffed up, well-planted, and pretty, I think this is going to be a signature project we can all be proud of. And now, I think we've converted a lot of people to the concept of roundabouts, and when we finally get it spiffed up, well-planted, and pretty, I think this is going to be a signature project we can all be proud of. And now, I think we've converted a lot of people to the concept of roundabouts, and when we finally get it spiffed up, well-planted, and pretty, I think this is going to be a signature project we can all be proud of. And now, I think we've converted a lot of people to the concept of roundabouts, and when we finally get it spiffed up, well-planted, and pretty, I think this is going to be a signature project we can all be proud of. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor.
Commissioner Sandberg, final comments? Commissioner Sandberg, final comments? Commissioner Sandberg, final comments? Commissioner Sandberg, final comments? Commissioner Sandberg, final comments?
Oh, it's a gateway to that Highland and Douglas. Oh, it's a gateway to that Highland and Douglas. Oh, it's a gateway to that Highland and Douglas. Oh, it's a gateway to that Highland and Douglas. Oh, it's a gateway to that Highland and Douglas. It's a long time coming. It's a long time coming. It's a long time coming. It's a long time coming. It's a long time coming. I'm very excited about this. I'm very excited about this. I'm very excited about this. I'm very excited about this. I'm very excited about this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Commissioner Gall, final comments? Commissioner Gall, final comments? Commissioner Gall, final comments? Commissioner Gall, final comments? Commissioner Gall, final comments?
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. You know, I've championed this complete street since its inception. You know, I've championed this complete street since its inception. You know, I've championed this complete street since its inception. You know, I've championed this complete street since its inception. You know, I've championed this complete street since its inception. It's just what Dunning needs. It's just what Dunning needs. It's just what Dunning needs. It's just what Dunning needs. It's just what Dunning needs. It actually, the county needs and the region needs. It actually, the county needs and the region needs. It actually, the county needs and the region needs. It actually, the county needs and the region needs. It actually, the county needs and the region needs. So, it's nice that we get to be a leader in this. So, it's nice that we get to be a leader in this. So, it's nice that we get to be a leader in this. So, it's nice that we get to be a leader in this. So, it's nice that we get to be a leader in this. And here we are at the finish line, and certainly one of the drums that I beat is walkability. And here we are at the finish line, and certainly one of the drums that I beat is walkability. And here we are at the finish line, and certainly one of the drums that I beat is walkability. And here we are at the finish line, and certainly one of the drums that I beat is walkability. And here we are at the finish line, and certainly one of the drums that I beat is walkability. I talk about it all day, every day. I talk about it all day, every day. I talk about it all day, every day. I talk about it all day, every day. I talk about it all day, every day. And that is what this project brings, right? And that is what this project brings, right? And that is what this project brings, right? And that is what this project brings, right? And that is what this project brings, right? It brings walkability. It brings walkability. It brings walkability. It brings walkability. It brings walkability. And to me, I thought it was the first opportunity to really shed light on pedestrians and bicyclists and those smaller, slower forms of transportation. And to me, I thought it was the first opportunity to really shed light on pedestrians and bicyclists and those smaller, slower forms of transportation. And to me, I thought it was the first opportunity to really shed light on pedestrians and bicyclists and those smaller, slower forms of transportation. And to me, I thought it was the first opportunity to really shed light on pedestrians and bicyclists and those smaller, slower forms of transportation. And to me, I thought it was the first opportunity to really shed light on pedestrians and bicyclists and those smaller, slower forms of transportation. But in order for that to be a success, they need shade. But in order for that to be a success, they need shade. But in order for that to be a success, they need shade. But in order for that to be a success, they need shade. But in order for that to be a success, they need shade. And you had time to present this presentation and show us. And you had time to present this presentation and show us. And you had time to present this presentation and show us. And you had time to present this presentation and show us. And you had time to present this presentation and show us. So, you were showing us the best of what you thought was going to be there, and there isn't one shade tree that's there. So, you were showing us the best of what you thought was going to be there, and there isn't one shade tree that's there. So, you were showing us the best of what you thought was going to be there, and there isn't one shade tree that's there. So, you were showing us the best of what you thought was going to be there, and there isn't one shade tree that's there. So, you were showing us the best of what you thought was going to be there, and there isn't one shade tree that's there. Now, you're telling me on the back end, oh, they're in this other schedule, and we won't have them. Now, you're telling me on the back end, oh, they're in this other schedule, and we won't have them. Now, you're telling me on the back end, oh, they're in this other schedule, and we won't have them. Now, you're telling me on the back end, oh, they're in this other schedule, and we won't have them. Now, you're telling me on the back end, oh, they're in this other schedule, and we won't have them. But I have zero confidence that we'll have enough to make a difference. But I have zero confidence that we'll have enough to make a difference. But I have zero confidence that we'll have enough to make a difference. But I have zero confidence that we'll have enough to make a difference. But I have zero confidence that we'll have enough to make a difference. So, I cannot support this. So, I cannot support this. So, I cannot support this. So, I cannot support this. So, I cannot support this. And it's so disappointing personally to me because I want to support this so badly. And it's so disappointing personally to me because I want to support this so badly. And it's so disappointing personally to me because I want to support this so badly. And it's so disappointing personally to me because I want to support this so badly. And it's so disappointing personally to me because I want to support this so badly. But this, summers are getting hotter. But this, summers are getting hotter. But this, summers are getting hotter. But this, summers are getting hotter. But this, summers are getting hotter. Gas, we've seen gas prices now, and I know that short term because of where we are. Gas, we've seen gas prices now, and I know that short term because of where we are. Gas, we've seen gas prices now, and I know that short term because of where we are. Gas, we've seen gas prices now, and I know that short term because of where we are. Gas, we've seen gas prices now, and I know that short term because of where we are. But oil's an issue. But oil's an issue. But oil's an issue. But oil's an issue. But oil's an issue. Gas is an issue. Gas is an issue. Gas is an issue. Gas is an issue. Gas is an issue. People are going to be walking more. People are going to be walking more. People are going to be walking more. People are going to be walking more. People are going to be walking more. People are going to choose those smaller forms of transportation. People are going to choose those smaller forms of transportation. People are going to choose those smaller forms of transportation. People are going to choose those smaller forms of transportation. People are going to choose those smaller forms of transportation. We have to embrace them and give them the opportunity to walk. We have to embrace them and give them the opportunity to walk. We have to embrace them and give them the opportunity to walk. We have to embrace them and give them the opportunity to walk. We have to embrace them and give them the opportunity to walk. And it is so incredibly hot that it's going to make them hard to choose that. And it is so incredibly hot that it's going to make them hard to choose that. And it is so incredibly hot that it's going to make them hard to choose that. And it is so incredibly hot that it's going to make them hard to choose that. And it is so incredibly hot that it's going to make them hard to choose that. And we want that to be a true option. And we want that to be a true option. And we want that to be a true option. And we want that to be a true option. And we want that to be a true option. And I don't see it in the landscaping that I'm seeing tonight. And I don't see it in the landscaping that I'm seeing tonight. And I don't see it in the landscaping that I'm seeing tonight. And I don't see it in the landscaping that I'm seeing tonight. And I don't see it in the landscaping that I'm seeing tonight. So, my apologies, but I will be voting no on this. So, my apologies, but I will be voting no on this. So, my apologies, but I will be voting no on this. So, my apologies, but I will be voting no on this. So, my apologies, but I will be voting no on this.
So, Emily, can you help? So, Emily, can you help? So, Emily, can you help? So, Emily, can you help? So, Emily, can you help? Is there going to be a lot of shade in some of those other areas? Is there going to be a lot of shade in some of those other areas? Is there going to be a lot of shade in some of those other areas? Is there going to be a lot of shade in some of those other areas? Is there going to be a lot of shade in some of those other areas?
Yes, I may. Yes, I may. Yes, I may. Yes, I may. Yes, I may.
So, when the roadway was being designed, so the phase before mine, we did do an analysis So, when the roadway was being designed, so the phase before mine, we did do an analysis So, when the roadway was being designed, so the phase before mine, we did do an analysis So, when the roadway was being designed, so the phase before mine, we did do an analysis So, when the roadway was being designed, so the phase before mine, we did do an analysis along the corridor adjacent to the trails where they expanded the sidewalk. along the corridor adjacent to the trails where they expanded the sidewalk. along the corridor adjacent to the trails where they expanded the sidewalk. along the corridor adjacent to the trails where they expanded the sidewalk. along the corridor adjacent to the trails where they expanded the sidewalk. And the main, very first thing we looked at was how can we get shade trees along the trail. And the main, very first thing we looked at was how can we get shade trees along the trail. And the main, very first thing we looked at was how can we get shade trees along the trail. And the main, very first thing we looked at was how can we get shade trees along the trail. And the main, very first thing we looked at was how can we get shade trees along the trail. The challenge with this corridor is that it's very tight right away. The challenge with this corridor is that it's very tight right away. The challenge with this corridor is that it's very tight right away. The challenge with this corridor is that it's very tight right away. The challenge with this corridor is that it's very tight right away. And right adjacent to that sidewalk where we extended it, it's so many utilities. And right adjacent to that sidewalk where we extended it, it's so many utilities. And right adjacent to that sidewalk where we extended it, it's so many utilities. And right adjacent to that sidewalk where we extended it, it's so many utilities. And right adjacent to that sidewalk where we extended it, it's so many utilities. And so, we explored using soil vaults. And so, we explored using soil vaults. And so, we explored using soil vaults. And so, we explored using soil vaults. And so, we explored using soil vaults. We explored, you know, we tried to look at all the available options to try and incorporate We explored, you know, we tried to look at all the available options to try and incorporate We explored, you know, we tried to look at all the available options to try and incorporate We explored, you know, we tried to look at all the available options to try and incorporate We explored, you know, we tried to look at all the available options to try and incorporate shade trees along the trail with the trees. shade trees along the trail with the trees. shade trees along the trail with the trees. shade trees along the trail with the trees. shade trees along the trail with the trees. And they're just simply, we just couldn't, it was just too constrained. And they're just simply, we just couldn't, it was just too constrained. And they're just simply, we just couldn't, it was just too constrained. And they're just simply, we just couldn't, it was just too constrained. And they're just simply, we just couldn't, it was just too constrained. We didn't have the space laterally. We didn't have the space laterally. We didn't have the space laterally. We didn't have the space laterally. We didn't have the space laterally. And underground, it was just too many utilities. And underground, it was just too many utilities. And underground, it was just too many utilities. And underground, it was just too many utilities. And underground, it was just too many utilities. And had the utilities been laid out perfectly straight, we would have been able to work around And had the utilities been laid out perfectly straight, we would have been able to work around And had the utilities been laid out perfectly straight, we would have been able to work around And had the utilities been laid out perfectly straight, we would have been able to work around And had the utilities been laid out perfectly straight, we would have been able to work around them, but they were all over the place. them, but they were all over the place. them, but they were all over the place. them, but they were all over the place. them, but they were all over the place. And so, that was really and truly the main challenge. And so, that was really and truly the main challenge. And so, that was really and truly the main challenge. And so, that was really and truly the main challenge. And so, that was really and truly the main challenge. Now, they do have shade trees. Now, they do have shade trees. Now, they do have shade trees. Now, they do have shade trees. Now, they do have shade trees. I know you don't see it on the pictures, but the, sorry, the, oh my goodness, the contract I know you don't see it on the pictures, but the, sorry, the, oh my goodness, the contract I know you don't see it on the pictures, but the, sorry, the, oh my goodness, the contract I know you don't see it on the pictures, but the, sorry, the, oh my goodness, the contract I know you don't see it on the pictures, but the, sorry, the, oh my goodness, the contract plans that are going to be lighting next week, they do incorporate them. plans that are going to be lighting next week, they do incorporate them. plans that are going to be lighting next week, they do incorporate them. plans that are going to be lighting next week, they do incorporate them. plans that are going to be lighting next week, they do incorporate them. They're just not going to be in a perfect row along the trail because we simply didn't They're just not going to be in a perfect row along the trail because we simply didn't They're just not going to be in a perfect row along the trail because we simply didn't They're just not going to be in a perfect row along the trail because we simply didn't They're just not going to be in a perfect row along the trail because we simply didn't have the room to install these types of trees. have the room to install these types of trees. have the room to install these types of trees. have the room to install these types of trees. have the room to install these types of trees. And you also have to consider long-term maintenance. And you also have to consider long-term maintenance. And you also have to consider long-term maintenance. And you also have to consider long-term maintenance. And you also have to consider long-term maintenance. If we had been able to squeeze one end between the right-of-way and the walk, now you have If we had been able to squeeze one end between the right-of-way and the walk, now you have If we had been able to squeeze one end between the right-of-way and the walk, now you have If we had been able to squeeze one end between the right-of-way and the walk, now you have If we had been able to squeeze one end between the right-of-way and the walk, now you have to start thinking, okay, root systems, you know, bringing up the trail, it's a concrete to start thinking, okay, root systems, you know, bringing up the trail, it's a concrete to start thinking, okay, root systems, you know, bringing up the trail, it's a concrete to start thinking, okay, root systems, you know, bringing up the trail, it's a concrete to start thinking, okay, root systems, you know, bringing up the trail, it's a concrete wide walk. wide walk. wide walk. wide walk. wide walk. So, there's a lot of things that you have to consider when you put a large tree adjacent So, there's a lot of things that you have to consider when you put a large tree adjacent So, there's a lot of things that you have to consider when you put a large tree adjacent So, there's a lot of things that you have to consider when you put a large tree adjacent So, there's a lot of things that you have to consider when you put a large tree adjacent to the trail. to the trail. to the trail. to the trail. to the trail. And, you know, and there's also structures and all that, but we just didn't have the And, you know, and there's also structures and all that, but we just didn't have the And, you know, and there's also structures and all that, but we just didn't have the And, you know, and there's also structures and all that, but we just didn't have the And, you know, and there's also structures and all that, but we just didn't have the space along the trail, at least on that side. space along the trail, at least on that side. space along the trail, at least on that side. space along the trail, at least on that side. space along the trail, at least on that side. And on the other side, we also have the businesses. And on the other side, we also have the businesses. And on the other side, we also have the businesses. And on the other side, we also have the businesses. And on the other side, we also have the businesses. It's just a very, very tight corridor. It's just a very, very tight corridor. It's just a very, very tight corridor. It's just a very, very tight corridor. It's just a very, very tight corridor. So, where we could fit them, we did. So, where we could fit them, we did. So, where we could fit them, we did. So, where we could fit them, we did. So, where we could fit them, we did. Like, especially in the wider medians, like the very first median as you're coming in Like, especially in the wider medians, like the very first median as you're coming in Like, especially in the wider medians, like the very first median as you're coming in Like, especially in the wider medians, like the very first median as you're coming in Like, especially in the wider medians, like the very first median as you're coming in from, I guess, I'm trying to, yeah, the wider median that's kind of closer to the actual from, I guess, I'm trying to, yeah, the wider median that's kind of closer to the actual from, I guess, I'm trying to, yeah, the wider median that's kind of closer to the actual from, I guess, I'm trying to, yeah, the wider median that's kind of closer to the actual from, I guess, I'm trying to, yeah, the wider median that's kind of closer to the actual Pinellas Trail. Pinellas Trail. Pinellas Trail. Pinellas Trail. Pinellas Trail. There's some trees in there. There's some trees in there. There's some trees in there. There's some trees in there. There's some trees in there. There's some trees on the sides where we have a little bit, like a little wider right There's some trees on the sides where we have a little bit, like a little wider right There's some trees on the sides where we have a little bit, like a little wider right There's some trees on the sides where we have a little bit, like a little wider right There's some trees on the sides where we have a little bit, like a little wider right away. away. away. away. away. They're just not lining the entire corridor, unfortunately, because we just didn't have They're just not lining the entire corridor, unfortunately, because we just didn't have They're just not lining the entire corridor, unfortunately, because we just didn't have They're just not lining the entire corridor, unfortunately, because we just didn't have They're just not lining the entire corridor, unfortunately, because we just didn't have the room to plant them. the room to plant them. the room to plant them. the room to plant them. the room to plant them.
There's four or five, too, by the gateway. There's four or five, too, by the gateway. There's four or five, too, by the gateway. There's four or five, too, by the gateway. There's four or five, too, by the gateway.
Yes, and by the gateway, as well. Yes, and by the gateway, as well. Yes, and by the gateway, as well. Yes, and by the gateway, as well. Yes, and by the gateway, as well.
There's four or five trees right there, shade trees. There's four or five trees right there, shade trees. There's four or five trees right there, shade trees. There's four or five trees right there, shade trees. There's four or five trees right there, shade trees. No, thanks. No, thanks. No, thanks. No, thanks. No, thanks. And then on the very, very narrow median, you know, originally it was going to be just And then on the very, very narrow median, you know, originally it was going to be just And then on the very, very narrow median, you know, originally it was going to be just And then on the very, very narrow median, you know, originally it was going to be just And then on the very, very narrow median, you know, originally it was going to be just
shrubs, like when, because we prepared a concept plan as a part of the roadway that shrubs, like when, because we prepared a concept plan as a part of the roadway that shrubs, like when, because we prepared a concept plan as a part of the roadway that shrubs, like when, because we prepared a concept plan as a part of the roadway that shrubs, like when, because we prepared a concept plan as a part of the roadway that
our landscape architect of record took and basically converted into these plans. our landscape architect of record took and basically converted into these plans. our landscape architect of record took and basically converted into these plans. our landscape architect of record took and basically converted into these plans. our landscape architect of record took and basically converted into these plans. He refined them and added more to them. He refined them and added more to them. He refined them and added more to them. He refined them and added more to them. He refined them and added more to them. And so we tried to squeeze trees wherever we could, you know, but it's a tight right And so we tried to squeeze trees wherever we could, you know, but it's a tight right And so we tried to squeeze trees wherever we could, you know, but it's a tight right And so we tried to squeeze trees wherever we could, you know, but it's a tight right And so we tried to squeeze trees wherever we could, you know, but it's a tight right of way. of way. of way. of way. of way. So, you know, we did try, and I just wanted to kind of echo that, because believe me, So, you know, we did try, and I just wanted to kind of echo that, because believe me, So, you know, we did try, and I just wanted to kind of echo that, because believe me, So, you know, we did try, and I just wanted to kind of echo that, because believe me, So, you know, we did try, and I just wanted to kind of echo that, because believe me, I use your trail. I use your trail. I use your trail. I use your trail. I use your trail. I don't live that far from here. I don't live that far from here. I don't live that far from here. I don't live that far from here. I don't live that far from here. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love this area. I love this area. I love this area. I love this area. I love this area. And I completely wholeheartedly agree, but we just, we did our best to try and get shade And I completely wholeheartedly agree, but we just, we did our best to try and get shade And I completely wholeheartedly agree, but we just, we did our best to try and get shade And I completely wholeheartedly agree, but we just, we did our best to try and get shade And I completely wholeheartedly agree, but we just, we did our best to try and get shade where we could. where we could. where we could. where we could. where we could. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. So for what it's worth, there was an effort, and we did work that through. So for what it's worth, there was an effort, and we did work that through. So for what it's worth, there was an effort, and we did work that through. So for what it's worth, there was an effort, and we did work that through. So for what it's worth, there was an effort, and we did work that through.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
We did the best we could. We did the best we could. We did the best we could. We did the best we could. We did the best we could.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Emily. Thanks, Emily. Thanks, Emily. Thanks, Emily. Thanks, Emily. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. My final comments is just, you know, I want to thank the staff for all the hard work in My final comments is just, you know, I want to thank the staff for all the hard work in My final comments is just, you know, I want to thank the staff for all the hard work in My final comments is just, you know, I want to thank the staff for all the hard work in My final comments is just, you know, I want to thank the staff for all the hard work in this, everyone. this, everyone. this, everyone. this, everyone. this, everyone. And a big thanks to Florida Department of Transportation. And a big thanks to Florida Department of Transportation. And a big thanks to Florida Department of Transportation. And a big thanks to Florida Department of Transportation. And a big thanks to Florida Department of Transportation. This has been a great partnership. This has been a great partnership. This has been a great partnership. This has been a great partnership. This has been a great partnership. You know, I wanted the roundabouts from the beginning. You know, I wanted the roundabouts from the beginning. You know, I wanted the roundabouts from the beginning. You know, I wanted the roundabouts from the beginning. You know, I wanted the roundabouts from the beginning. There was mixed views on it. There was mixed views on it. There was mixed views on it. There was mixed views on it. There was mixed views on it. But I'll tell you what, I haven't, I get compliments all the time. But I'll tell you what, I haven't, I get compliments all the time. But I'll tell you what, I haven't, I get compliments all the time. But I'll tell you what, I haven't, I get compliments all the time. But I'll tell you what, I haven't, I get compliments all the time. People love those roundabouts, and I think the landscaping will just add to it. People love those roundabouts, and I think the landscaping will just add to it. People love those roundabouts, and I think the landscaping will just add to it. People love those roundabouts, and I think the landscaping will just add to it. People love those roundabouts, and I think the landscaping will just add to it. So, appreciate all that. So, appreciate all that. So, appreciate all that. So, appreciate all that. So, appreciate all that.
Mayor, if I may, excuse me, if I may add, too. Mayor, if I may, excuse me, if I may add, too. Mayor, if I may, excuse me, if I may add, too. Mayor, if I may, excuse me, if I may add, too. Mayor, if I may, excuse me, if I may add, too. This all started with a $100,000 grant from Ford Pinellas in 2017. This all started with a $100,000 grant from Ford Pinellas in 2017. This all started with a $100,000 grant from Ford Pinellas in 2017. This all started with a $100,000 grant from Ford Pinellas in 2017. This all started with a $100,000 grant from Ford Pinellas in 2017. And then several years later, we got a million-dollar grant from Ford Pinellas. And then several years later, we got a million-dollar grant from Ford Pinellas. And then several years later, we got a million-dollar grant from Ford Pinellas. And then several years later, we got a million-dollar grant from Ford Pinellas. And then several years later, we got a million-dollar grant from Ford Pinellas. And, of course, DOT has contributed tremendous. And, of course, DOT has contributed tremendous. And, of course, DOT has contributed tremendous. And, of course, DOT has contributed tremendous. And, of course, DOT has contributed tremendous. And PSTA is also doing a partnership with us. And PSTA is also doing a partnership with us. And PSTA is also doing a partnership with us. And PSTA is also doing a partnership with us. And PSTA is also doing a partnership with us. So there's going to be a lot of partnerships along the way to get to where we are. So there's going to be a lot of partnerships along the way to get to where we are. So there's going to be a lot of partnerships along the way to get to where we are. So there's going to be a lot of partnerships along the way to get to where we are. So there's going to be a lot of partnerships along the way to get to where we are. So the total cost of the project was what? So the total cost of the project was what? So the total cost of the project was what? So the total cost of the project was what? So the total cost of the project was what? We're around $14 million. We're around $14 million. We're around $14 million. We're around $14 million. We're around $14 million. And how much did the city of Dunedin pay? And how much did the city of Dunedin pay? And how much did the city of Dunedin pay? And how much did the city of Dunedin pay? And how much did the city of Dunedin pay? Oh, jeez, I have to get the exact numbers for you. Oh, jeez, I have to get the exact numbers for you. Oh, jeez, I have to get the exact numbers for you. Oh, jeez, I have to get the exact numbers for you. Oh, jeez, I have to get the exact numbers for you. But DOT is the heavy hitter on this by far. But DOT is the heavy hitter on this by far. But DOT is the heavy hitter on this by far. But DOT is the heavy hitter on this by far. But DOT is the heavy hitter on this by far. So I think we've got $2.5 million in there. So I think we've got $2.5 million in there. So I think we've got $2.5 million in there. So I think we've got $2.5 million in there. So I think we've got $2.5 million in there. I'd have to ask less. I'd have to ask less. I'd have to ask less. I'd have to ask less. I'd have to ask less.
$2.5 million out of $14 million is what we spent? $2.5 million out of $14 million is what we spent? $2.5 million out of $14 million is what we spent? $2.5 million out of $14 million is what we spent? $2.5 million out of $14 million is what we spent?
Yeah, but I want to check on that. Yeah, but I want to check on that. Yeah, but I want to check on that. Yeah, but I want to check on that. Yeah, but I want to check on that.
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. But I just think it's good for the citizens to understand the value of those partnerships. But I just think it's good for the citizens to understand the value of those partnerships. But I just think it's good for the citizens to understand the value of those partnerships. But I just think it's good for the citizens to understand the value of those partnerships. But I just think it's good for the citizens to understand the value of those partnerships.
It's heavily leveraged. It's heavily leveraged. It's heavily leveraged. It's heavily leveraged. It's heavily leveraged.
Right, it is. Right, it is. Right, it is. Right, it is. Right, it is. So, thank you. So, thank you. So, thank you. So, thank you. So, thank you. Okay, we're going to go to roll call vote. Okay, we're going to go to roll call vote. Okay, we're going to go to roll call vote. Okay, we're going to go to roll call vote. Okay, we're going to go to roll call vote. And go ahead. And go ahead. And go ahead. And go ahead. And go ahead.
Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg.
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao.
No. No. No. No. No.
Commissioner Dugard. Commissioner Dugard. Commissioner Dugard. Commissioner Dugard. Commissioner Dugard.
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
Vice Mayor Walker. Vice Mayor Walker. Vice Mayor Walker. Vice Mayor Walker. Vice Mayor Walker.
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
And Mayor Franey. And Mayor Franey. And Mayor Franey. And Mayor Franey. And Mayor Franey.
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. And that motion passes four to one. And that motion passes four to one. And that motion passes four to one. And that motion passes four to one. And that motion passes four to one. Okay, we're going to go to, and thank you very much. Okay, we're going to go to, and thank you very much. Okay, we're going to go to, and thank you very much. Okay, we're going to go to, and thank you very much. Okay, we're going to go to, and thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, we'll go to the next item, 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. Okay, we'll go to the next item, 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. Okay, we'll go to the next item, 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. Okay, we'll go to the next item, 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. Okay, we'll go to the next item, 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. Staff presentation. Staff presentation. Staff presentation. Staff presentation. Staff presentation. You've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. We've got Isaac up here doing a presentation with Clay. We've got Isaac up here doing a presentation with Clay. We've got Isaac up here doing a presentation with Clay. We've got Isaac up here doing a presentation with Clay. We've got Isaac up here doing a presentation with Clay. Well, Isaac, is this the first time you've presented? Well, Isaac, is this the first time you've presented? Well, Isaac, is this the first time you've presented? Well, Isaac, is this the first time you've presented? Well, Isaac, is this the first time you've presented?
This is. This is. This is. This is. This is.
As a city staffer. As a city staffer. As a city staffer. As a city staffer. As a city staffer. Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Now she's here to support you, which is nice. Now she's here to support you, which is nice. Now she's here to support you, which is nice. Now she's here to support you, which is nice. Now she's here to support you, which is nice. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So go ahead. So go ahead. So go ahead. So go ahead. So go ahead.
Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. Isaac Wasilewski, engineer. Isaac Wasilewski, engineer. Isaac Wasilewski, engineer. Isaac Wasilewski, engineer. Isaac Wasilewski, engineer. And I'm joined this evening with Clay Watkins, Director of Utilities Engineering for item 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. And I'm joined this evening with Clay Watkins, Director of Utilities Engineering for item 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. And I'm joined this evening with Clay Watkins, Director of Utilities Engineering for item 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. And I'm joined this evening with Clay Watkins, Director of Utilities Engineering for item 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. And I'm joined this evening with Clay Watkins, Director of Utilities Engineering for item 3B, authorized task order number 2026-01 for sanitary sewer cured in place pipe lining to Vortex Services LLC in the amount of $899,834. Pipelining is a yearly capital improvement project. Pipelining is a yearly capital improvement project. Pipelining is a yearly capital improvement project. Pipelining is a yearly capital improvement project. Pipelining is a yearly capital improvement project. In order to quickly address issues as they arise or are discovered, the task order process allows us to line as necessary. In order to quickly address issues as they arise or are discovered, the task order process allows us to line as necessary. In order to quickly address issues as they arise or are discovered, the task order process allows us to line as necessary. In order to quickly address issues as they arise or are discovered, the task order process allows us to line as necessary. In order to quickly address issues as they arise or are discovered, the task order process allows us to line as necessary. Whether that is 20 feet or 2,000 feet, the price per foot is fixed. Whether that is 20 feet or 2,000 feet, the price per foot is fixed. Whether that is 20 feet or 2,000 feet, the price per foot is fixed. Whether that is 20 feet or 2,000 feet, the price per foot is fixed. Whether that is 20 feet or 2,000 feet, the price per foot is fixed. This contract process was competitively bid as a continuing services contract, which was subsequently awarded to Vortex Services LLC at the January 22, 2026 commission meeting. This contract process was competitively bid as a continuing services contract, which was subsequently awarded to Vortex Services LLC at the January 22, 2026 commission meeting. This contract process was competitively bid as a continuing services contract, which was subsequently awarded to Vortex Services LLC at the January 22, 2026 commission meeting. This contract process was competitively bid as a continuing services contract, which was subsequently awarded to Vortex Services LLC at the January 22, 2026 commission meeting. This contract process was competitively bid as a continuing services contract, which was subsequently awarded to Vortex Services LLC at the January 22, 2026 commission meeting. Vortex has performed this type of work in the city before and to our satisfaction. Vortex has performed this type of work in the city before and to our satisfaction. Vortex has performed this type of work in the city before and to our satisfaction. Vortex has performed this type of work in the city before and to our satisfaction. Vortex has performed this type of work in the city before and to our satisfaction. CIPP lining extends the service life of existing gravity sewer and stormwater pipes up to an additional 50 years. CIPP lining extends the service life of existing gravity sewer and stormwater pipes up to an additional 50 years. CIPP lining extends the service life of existing gravity sewer and stormwater pipes up to an additional 50 years. CIPP lining extends the service life of existing gravity sewer and stormwater pipes up to an additional 50 years. CIPP lining extends the service life of existing gravity sewer and stormwater pipes up to an additional 50 years. It does not require excavation of streets and right-of-ways. It does not require excavation of streets and right-of-ways. It does not require excavation of streets and right-of-ways. It does not require excavation of streets and right-of-ways. It does not require excavation of streets and right-of-ways. Pipes are accessed and lined through manholes. Pipes are accessed and lined through manholes. Pipes are accessed and lined through manholes. Pipes are accessed and lined through manholes. Pipes are accessed and lined through manholes. Lined pipes reduce groundwater from making its way into the sewer system, which consumes treatment capacity at the wastewater treatment plant and increases treatment expenses. Lined pipes reduce groundwater from making its way into the sewer system, which consumes treatment capacity at the wastewater treatment plant and increases treatment expenses. Lined pipes reduce groundwater from making its way into the sewer system, which consumes treatment capacity at the wastewater treatment plant and increases treatment expenses. Lined pipes reduce groundwater from making its way into the sewer system, which consumes treatment capacity at the wastewater treatment plant and increases treatment expenses. Lined pipes reduce groundwater from making its way into the sewer system, which consumes treatment capacity at the wastewater treatment plant and increases treatment expenses. This task order is for approximately 11,500 linear feet of 8-inch sewer mains and 33 6-inch sewer laterals in the Fairway Estate neighborhood, as shown on the map included in the packet in Exhibit A. This task order is for approximately 11,500 linear feet of 8-inch sewer mains and 33 6-inch sewer laterals in the Fairway Estate neighborhood, as shown on the map included in the packet in Exhibit A. This task order is for approximately 11,500 linear feet of 8-inch sewer mains and 33 6-inch sewer laterals in the Fairway Estate neighborhood, as shown on the map included in the packet in Exhibit A. This task order is for approximately 11,500 linear feet of 8-inch sewer mains and 33 6-inch sewer laterals in the Fairway Estate neighborhood, as shown on the map included in the packet in Exhibit A. This task order is for approximately 11,500 linear feet of 8-inch sewer mains and 33 6-inch sewer laterals in the Fairway Estate neighborhood, as shown on the map included in the packet in Exhibit A. This area was selected due to the amount of infiltration and inflows, as well as based on inspection and evaluation by the wastewater team. This area was selected due to the amount of infiltration and inflows, as well as based on inspection and evaluation by the wastewater team. This area was selected due to the amount of infiltration and inflows, as well as based on inspection and evaluation by the wastewater team. This area was selected due to the amount of infiltration and inflows, as well as based on inspection and evaluation by the wastewater team. This area was selected due to the amount of infiltration and inflows, as well as based on inspection and evaluation by the wastewater team. As such, staff hereby recommends issuance of task order number 2026-01 in the amount of $899,834 for sanitary sewer CIPP lining to Vortex Services LLC of Riverview, Florida, as detailed herein. As such, staff hereby recommends issuance of task order number 2026-01 in the amount of $899,834 for sanitary sewer CIPP lining to Vortex Services LLC of Riverview, Florida, as detailed herein. As such, staff hereby recommends issuance of task order number 2026-01 in the amount of $899,834 for sanitary sewer CIPP lining to Vortex Services LLC of Riverview, Florida, as detailed herein. As such, staff hereby recommends issuance of task order number 2026-01 in the amount of $899,834 for sanitary sewer CIPP lining to Vortex Services LLC of Riverview, Florida, as detailed herein. As such, staff hereby recommends issuance of task order number 2026-01 in the amount of $899,834 for sanitary sewer CIPP lining to Vortex Services LLC of Riverview, Florida, as detailed herein. We are here to answer any questions. We are here to answer any questions. We are here to answer any questions. We are here to answer any questions. We are here to answer any questions.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Questions for Isaac or Clay? Questions for Isaac or Clay? Questions for Isaac or Clay? Questions for Isaac or Clay? Questions for Isaac or Clay? Vice Mayor. Vice Mayor. Vice Mayor. Vice Mayor. Vice Mayor.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. I don't have a heck of a lot of questions. I don't have a heck of a lot of questions. I don't have a heck of a lot of questions. I don't have a heck of a lot of questions. I don't have a heck of a lot of questions. We go through this one every year. We go through this one every year. We go through this one every year. We go through this one every year. We go through this one every year. I'm absolutely fascinated by the engineering process of this. I'm absolutely fascinated by the engineering process of this. I'm absolutely fascinated by the engineering process of this. I'm absolutely fascinated by the engineering process of this. I'm absolutely fascinated by the engineering process of this. But I guess there is one question. But I guess there is one question. But I guess there is one question. But I guess there is one question. But I guess there is one question. So, you know, once we award this, how does particular properties and sites get prioritized in terms of getting the work done? So, you know, once we award this, how does particular properties and sites get prioritized in terms of getting the work done? So, you know, once we award this, how does particular properties and sites get prioritized in terms of getting the work done? So, you know, once we award this, how does particular properties and sites get prioritized in terms of getting the work done? So, you know, once we award this, how does particular properties and sites get prioritized in terms of getting the work done?
So, referring to lining in general or this specific task order in this neighborhood? So, referring to lining in general or this specific task order in this neighborhood? So, referring to lining in general or this specific task order in this neighborhood? So, referring to lining in general or this specific task order in this neighborhood? So, referring to lining in general or this specific task order in this neighborhood? Well, actually, so this is neighborhood specific? Well, actually, so this is neighborhood specific? Well, actually, so this is neighborhood specific? Well, actually, so this is neighborhood specific? Well, actually, so this is neighborhood specific? This one happens to be, but for example, I'm actually working on a second task order that our wastewater team found that there was some real bad deterioration off of the Causeway Boulevard. This one happens to be, but for example, I'm actually working on a second task order that our wastewater team found that there was some real bad deterioration off of the Causeway Boulevard. This one happens to be, but for example, I'm actually working on a second task order that our wastewater team found that there was some real bad deterioration off of the Causeway Boulevard. This one happens to be, but for example, I'm actually working on a second task order that our wastewater team found that there was some real bad deterioration off of the Causeway Boulevard. This one happens to be, but for example, I'm actually working on a second task order that our wastewater team found that there was some real bad deterioration off of the Causeway Boulevard. Prior years, if it wasn't kind of included in that whole bundle and all that expense for that year was spent, it would have to be either funds from another area shifted to cover that and rebid or be included in next year's. Prior years, if it wasn't kind of included in that whole bundle and all that expense for that year was spent, it would have to be either funds from another area shifted to cover that and rebid or be included in next year's. Prior years, if it wasn't kind of included in that whole bundle and all that expense for that year was spent, it would have to be either funds from another area shifted to cover that and rebid or be included in next year's. Prior years, if it wasn't kind of included in that whole bundle and all that expense for that year was spent, it would have to be either funds from another area shifted to cover that and rebid or be included in next year's. Prior years, if it wasn't kind of included in that whole bundle and all that expense for that year was spent, it would have to be either funds from another area shifted to cover that and rebid or be included in next year's. Given that this task order process allows us to take the funds that we have for pipelining and as needs arise during inspection or if someone calls or notices something, we can then prioritize as we go throughout the year. Given that this task order process allows us to take the funds that we have for pipelining and as needs arise during inspection or if someone calls or notices something, we can then prioritize as we go throughout the year. Given that this task order process allows us to take the funds that we have for pipelining and as needs arise during inspection or if someone calls or notices something, we can then prioritize as we go throughout the year. Given that this task order process allows us to take the funds that we have for pipelining and as needs arise during inspection or if someone calls or notices something, we can then prioritize as we go throughout the year. Given that this task order process allows us to take the funds that we have for pipelining and as needs arise during inspection or if someone calls or notices something, we can then prioritize as we go throughout the year.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. No further questions. No further questions. No further questions. No further questions. No further questions.
Commissioner Sandbergen, questions? Commissioner Sandbergen, questions? Commissioner Sandbergen, questions? Commissioner Sandbergen, questions? Commissioner Sandbergen, questions?
Isaac, I think you answered two of mine. Isaac, I think you answered two of mine. Isaac, I think you answered two of mine. Isaac, I think you answered two of mine. Isaac, I think you answered two of mine. You said no disruption to the residents? You said no disruption to the residents? You said no disruption to the residents? You said no disruption to the residents? You said no disruption to the residents?
Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And the job was bid. And the job was bid. And the job was bid. And the job was bid. And the job was bid. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. I remember. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. You know, looking at that specific map you have up, if you, you know, Fairway, and this appears around, you know, east-west, if you come down Harrison or Armour or Mangrum, it looks like that green line stops. You know, looking at that specific map you have up, if you, you know, Fairway, and this appears around, you know, east-west, if you come down Harrison or Armour or Mangrum, it looks like that green line stops. You know, looking at that specific map you have up, if you, you know, Fairway, and this appears around, you know, east-west, if you come down Harrison or Armour or Mangrum, it looks like that green line stops. You know, looking at that specific map you have up, if you, you know, Fairway, and this appears around, you know, east-west, if you come down Harrison or Armour or Mangrum, it looks like that green line stops. You know, looking at that specific map you have up, if you, you know, Fairway, and this appears around, you know, east-west, if you come down Harrison or Armour or Mangrum, it looks like that green line stops. What about, like, for example, those two houses on the end of Mangrum, why wouldn't that extend all the way past theirs? What about, like, for example, those two houses on the end of Mangrum, why wouldn't that extend all the way past theirs? What about, like, for example, those two houses on the end of Mangrum, why wouldn't that extend all the way past theirs? What about, like, for example, those two houses on the end of Mangrum, why wouldn't that extend all the way past theirs? What about, like, for example, those two houses on the end of Mangrum, why wouldn't that extend all the way past theirs?
So if you're, excuse me, Commissioner, if you're, excuse me, Clayton Watkins, Utilities and Engineering, sorry. So if you're, excuse me, Commissioner, if you're, excuse me, Clayton Watkins, Utilities and Engineering, sorry. So if you're, excuse me, Commissioner, if you're, excuse me, Clayton Watkins, Utilities and Engineering, sorry. So if you're, excuse me, Commissioner, if you're, excuse me, Clayton Watkins, Utilities and Engineering, sorry. So if you're, excuse me, Commissioner, if you're, excuse me, Clayton Watkins, Utilities and Engineering, sorry. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. So if you're looking at what's on the screen, whoops, and I moved it, it actually, because that's where the pipe, the sanitary sewer is laid, so some of the streets, due to the elevation, it might actually just go the other direction. So if you're looking at what's on the screen, whoops, and I moved it, it actually, because that's where the pipe, the sanitary sewer is laid, so some of the streets, due to the elevation, it might actually just go the other direction. So if you're looking at what's on the screen, whoops, and I moved it, it actually, because that's where the pipe, the sanitary sewer is laid, so some of the streets, due to the elevation, it might actually just go the other direction. So if you're looking at what's on the screen, whoops, and I moved it, it actually, because that's where the pipe, the sanitary sewer is laid, so some of the streets, due to the elevation, it might actually just go the other direction. So if you're looking at what's on the screen, whoops, and I moved it, it actually, because that's where the pipe, the sanitary sewer is laid, so some of the streets, due to the elevation, it might actually just go the other direction. So there's just not sewer in that location. So there's just not sewer in that location. So there's just not sewer in that location. So there's just not sewer in that location. So there's just not sewer in that location.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. And I noticed in the 8-inch pipe and the 6-inch, it's a different amount of material that's installed. And I noticed in the 8-inch pipe and the 6-inch, it's a different amount of material that's installed. And I noticed in the 8-inch pipe and the 6-inch, it's a different amount of material that's installed. And I noticed in the 8-inch pipe and the 6-inch, it's a different amount of material that's installed. And I noticed in the 8-inch pipe and the 6-inch, it's a different amount of material that's installed. 6-millimeter in the 8-inch, was it 4-millimeter in the 6-inch? 6-millimeter in the 8-inch, was it 4-millimeter in the 6-inch? 6-millimeter in the 8-inch, was it 4-millimeter in the 6-inch? 6-millimeter in the 8-inch, was it 4-millimeter in the 6-inch? 6-millimeter in the 8-inch, was it 4-millimeter in the 6-inch? I know there was a difference. I know there was a difference. I know there was a difference. I know there was a difference. I know there was a difference. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Is that manufacturer standard, or is that, how did we arrive at that amount? Is that manufacturer standard, or is that, how did we arrive at that amount? Is that manufacturer standard, or is that, how did we arrive at that amount? Is that manufacturer standard, or is that, how did we arrive at that amount? Is that manufacturer standard, or is that, how did we arrive at that amount?
That is from the manufacturer, and it's also based on the use of the pipe. That is from the manufacturer, and it's also based on the use of the pipe. That is from the manufacturer, and it's also based on the use of the pipe. That is from the manufacturer, and it's also based on the use of the pipe. That is from the manufacturer, and it's also based on the use of the pipe. So the thicker material is on the mains itself, while the thinner material is what comes from the house to the main. So the thicker material is on the mains itself, while the thinner material is what comes from the house to the main. So the thicker material is on the mains itself, while the thinner material is what comes from the house to the main. So the thicker material is on the mains itself, while the thinner material is what comes from the house to the main. So the thicker material is on the mains itself, while the thinner material is what comes from the house to the main. So the amount of usage is quite different between the two. So the amount of usage is quite different between the two. So the amount of usage is quite different between the two. So the amount of usage is quite different between the two. So the amount of usage is quite different between the two.
Thanks, Isaac. Thanks, Isaac. Thanks, Isaac. Thanks, Isaac. Thanks, Isaac. That's good, Mayor. That's good, Mayor. That's good, Mayor. That's good, Mayor. That's good, Mayor.
Okay, questions, Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions, Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions, Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions, Commissioner Gao. Okay, questions, Commissioner Gao.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Well done, Isaac. Well done, Isaac. Well done, Isaac. Well done, Isaac. Well done, Isaac. You're doing good. You're doing good. You're doing good. You're doing good. You're doing good. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.
Halfway there? Halfway there? Halfway there? Halfway there? Halfway there?
Yeah, and as the Vice Mayor said, this is something we talk about every year. Yeah, and as the Vice Mayor said, this is something we talk about every year. Yeah, and as the Vice Mayor said, this is something we talk about every year. Yeah, and as the Vice Mayor said, this is something we talk about every year. Yeah, and as the Vice Mayor said, this is something we talk about every year. But for the residents, if you can give us a quick rundown on what is the lining? But for the residents, if you can give us a quick rundown on what is the lining? But for the residents, if you can give us a quick rundown on what is the lining? But for the residents, if you can give us a quick rundown on what is the lining? But for the residents, if you can give us a quick rundown on what is the lining? What's that process? What's that process? What's that process? What's that process? What's that process? What can they expect to see outside their front windows? What can they expect to see outside their front windows? What can they expect to see outside their front windows? What can they expect to see outside their front windows? What can they expect to see outside their front windows?
Certainly. Certainly. Certainly. Certainly. Certainly. So if they're looking at the pipelining process, they'll notice that there's going to be a utility truck at a manhole, So if they're looking at the pipelining process, they'll notice that there's going to be a utility truck at a manhole, So if they're looking at the pipelining process, they'll notice that there's going to be a utility truck at a manhole, So if they're looking at the pipelining process, they'll notice that there's going to be a utility truck at a manhole, So if they're looking at the pipelining process, they'll notice that there's going to be a utility truck at a manhole, and then there will be on the other end of the manhole, or under the end of that run, another manhole, a receiving crew. and then there will be on the other end of the manhole, or under the end of that run, another manhole, a receiving crew. and then there will be on the other end of the manhole, or under the end of that run, another manhole, a receiving crew. and then there will be on the other end of the manhole, or under the end of that run, another manhole, a receiving crew. and then there will be on the other end of the manhole, or under the end of that run, another manhole, a receiving crew. And so what the pipelining looks like is it's kind of like a sleeve that gets run into the sewer pipe. And so what the pipelining looks like is it's kind of like a sleeve that gets run into the sewer pipe. And so what the pipelining looks like is it's kind of like a sleeve that gets run into the sewer pipe. And so what the pipelining looks like is it's kind of like a sleeve that gets run into the sewer pipe. And so what the pipelining looks like is it's kind of like a sleeve that gets run into the sewer pipe. And once it's installed in the sewer pipe, it will then be blown up like a balloon to kind of seal the entire inside of the pipe. And once it's installed in the sewer pipe, it will then be blown up like a balloon to kind of seal the entire inside of the pipe. And once it's installed in the sewer pipe, it will then be blown up like a balloon to kind of seal the entire inside of the pipe. And once it's installed in the sewer pipe, it will then be blown up like a balloon to kind of seal the entire inside of the pipe. And once it's installed in the sewer pipe, it will then be blown up like a balloon to kind of seal the entire inside of the pipe. And then it's heat cured, so there's actually a resin in there that heat will then activate it and allow it to fill any voids and harden. And then it's heat cured, so there's actually a resin in there that heat will then activate it and allow it to fill any voids and harden. And then it's heat cured, so there's actually a resin in there that heat will then activate it and allow it to fill any voids and harden. And then it's heat cured, so there's actually a resin in there that heat will then activate it and allow it to fill any voids and harden. And then it's heat cured, so there's actually a resin in there that heat will then activate it and allow it to fill any voids and harden. And so other than potential traffic disruption of going around the trucks, they won't really notice any difference. And so other than potential traffic disruption of going around the trucks, they won't really notice any difference. And so other than potential traffic disruption of going around the trucks, they won't really notice any difference. And so other than potential traffic disruption of going around the trucks, they won't really notice any difference. And so other than potential traffic disruption of going around the trucks, they won't really notice any difference. Because after the resin is cured, the vortex will come back, and then they will actually cut out the openings for all the laterals that go into it. Because after the resin is cured, the vortex will come back, and then they will actually cut out the openings for all the laterals that go into it. Because after the resin is cured, the vortex will come back, and then they will actually cut out the openings for all the laterals that go into it. Because after the resin is cured, the vortex will come back, and then they will actually cut out the openings for all the laterals that go into it. Because after the resin is cured, the vortex will come back, and then they will actually cut out the openings for all the laterals that go into it. So definitely there's going to be like hang tags that goes, or door tags that goes on all the residents to let them know what's going on. So definitely there's going to be like hang tags that goes, or door tags that goes on all the residents to let them know what's going on. So definitely there's going to be like hang tags that goes, or door tags that goes on all the residents to let them know what's going on. So definitely there's going to be like hang tags that goes, or door tags that goes on all the residents to let them know what's going on. So definitely there's going to be like hang tags that goes, or door tags that goes on all the residents to let them know what's going on. And then also that just to make sure that if there's an issue, for example, perhaps a lateral was not cut, And then also that just to make sure that if there's an issue, for example, perhaps a lateral was not cut, And then also that just to make sure that if there's an issue, for example, perhaps a lateral was not cut, And then also that just to make sure that if there's an issue, for example, perhaps a lateral was not cut, And then also that just to make sure that if there's an issue, for example, perhaps a lateral was not cut, Vortex has done a pretty good job of making sure they do come back. Vortex has done a pretty good job of making sure they do come back. Vortex has done a pretty good job of making sure they do come back. Vortex has done a pretty good job of making sure they do come back. Vortex has done a pretty good job of making sure they do come back. And we do require that they have a CCTV go through the pipe, and they measure where it is at to make sure that they have cut anything. And we do require that they have a CCTV go through the pipe, and they measure where it is at to make sure that they have cut anything. And we do require that they have a CCTV go through the pipe, and they measure where it is at to make sure that they have cut anything. And we do require that they have a CCTV go through the pipe, and they measure where it is at to make sure that they have cut anything. And we do require that they have a CCTV go through the pipe, and they measure where it is at to make sure that they have cut anything. But should there be any issues, they would have that information to make sure that they can reach out to someone to get it addressed promptly. But should there be any issues, they would have that information to make sure that they can reach out to someone to get it addressed promptly. But should there be any issues, they would have that information to make sure that they can reach out to someone to get it addressed promptly. But should there be any issues, they would have that information to make sure that they can reach out to someone to get it addressed promptly. But should there be any issues, they would have that information to make sure that they can reach out to someone to get it addressed promptly.
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Questions? Questions? Questions? Questions? Questions? Commissioner Degard. Commissioner Degard. Commissioner Degard. Commissioner Degard. Commissioner Degard.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What kind of extended life are we going to get out of this? What kind of extended life are we going to get out of this? What kind of extended life are we going to get out of this? What kind of extended life are we going to get out of this? What kind of extended life are we going to get out of this?
So industry says 50 to 60 years. So industry says 50 to 60 years. So industry says 50 to 60 years. So industry says 50 to 60 years. So industry says 50 to 60 years. We peg it around 50 years. We peg it around 50 years. We peg it around 50 years. We peg it around 50 years. We peg it around 50 years. They can be relined if need be, but I don't believe we've had any that required relining. They can be relined if need be, but I don't believe we've had any that required relining. They can be relined if need be, but I don't believe we've had any that required relining. They can be relined if need be, but I don't believe we've had any that required relining. They can be relined if need be, but I don't believe we've had any that required relining.
Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. Not to my knowledge. I mean, it does slightly reduce the capacity of the pipe each time you do that. I mean, it does slightly reduce the capacity of the pipe each time you do that. I mean, it does slightly reduce the capacity of the pipe each time you do that. I mean, it does slightly reduce the capacity of the pipe each time you do that. I mean, it does slightly reduce the capacity of the pipe each time you do that. But on these 8-inch pipes, it's usually not a worry. But on these 8-inch pipes, it's usually not a worry. But on these 8-inch pipes, it's usually not a worry. But on these 8-inch pipes, it's usually not a worry. But on these 8-inch pipes, it's usually not a worry.
Well, I'm not going to be around 14, right? Well, I'm not going to be around 14, right? Well, I'm not going to be around 14, right? Well, I'm not going to be around 14, right? Well, I'm not going to be around 14, right? I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I'll tell you. That's incredible. That's incredible. That's incredible. That's incredible. That's incredible. 50 years. 50 years. 50 years. 50 years. 50 years. That was my only question that wasn't asked. That was my only question that wasn't asked. That was my only question that wasn't asked. That was my only question that wasn't asked. That was my only question that wasn't asked. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor.
I don't have any questions at all. I don't have any questions at all. I don't have any questions at all. I don't have any questions at all. I don't have any questions at all. I think you nailed it. I think you nailed it. I think you nailed it. I think you nailed it. I think you nailed it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So it's all good. So it's all good. So it's all good. So it's all good. So it's all good. So I will open up to the public. So I will open up to the public. So I will open up to the public. So I will open up to the public. So I will open up to the public. Is there anyone in the public that wishes to come forward on this issue? Is there anyone in the public that wishes to come forward on this issue? Is there anyone in the public that wishes to come forward on this issue? Is there anyone in the public that wishes to come forward on this issue? Is there anyone in the public that wishes to come forward on this issue? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Seeing no one coming forward, I'll close public input. Seeing no one coming forward, I'll close public input. Seeing no one coming forward, I'll close public input. Seeing no one coming forward, I'll close public input. Seeing no one coming forward, I'll close public input. I'll ask for a motion. I'll ask for a motion. I'll ask for a motion. I'll ask for a motion. I'll ask for a motion.
So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Vice Mayor and... Vice Mayor and... Vice Mayor and... Vice Mayor and... Vice Mayor and...
Give it to Steve. Give it to Steve. Give it to Steve. Give it to Steve. Give it to Steve.
Oh, Steve. Oh, Steve. Oh, Steve. Oh, Steve. Oh, Steve. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Then Commissioner Sandberg. Then Commissioner Sandberg. Then Commissioner Sandberg. Then Commissioner Sandberg. Then Commissioner Sandberg. Then I got Degard for second or you for second? Then I got Degard for second or you for second? Then I got Degard for second or you for second? Then I got Degard for second or you for second? Then I got Degard for second or you for second? Steve. Steve. Steve. Steve. Steve.
Tom. Tom. Tom. Tom. Tom.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Got this. Got this. Got this. Got this. Got this. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So final comments, starting with the maker of the motion, Commissioner Sandberg. So final comments, starting with the maker of the motion, Commissioner Sandberg. So final comments, starting with the maker of the motion, Commissioner Sandberg. So final comments, starting with the maker of the motion, Commissioner Sandberg. So final comments, starting with the maker of the motion, Commissioner Sandberg.
All I want to say is I appreciate maintaining and, you know, keeping that valuable infrastructure. All I want to say is I appreciate maintaining and, you know, keeping that valuable infrastructure. All I want to say is I appreciate maintaining and, you know, keeping that valuable infrastructure. All I want to say is I appreciate maintaining and, you know, keeping that valuable infrastructure. All I want to say is I appreciate maintaining and, you know, keeping that valuable infrastructure. It's nice to sit here tonight and be proactive instead of sit here some other night and being reactive. It's nice to sit here tonight and be proactive instead of sit here some other night and being reactive. It's nice to sit here tonight and be proactive instead of sit here some other night and being reactive. It's nice to sit here tonight and be proactive instead of sit here some other night and being reactive. It's nice to sit here tonight and be proactive instead of sit here some other night and being reactive. So thank you. So thank you. So thank you. So thank you. So thank you. It's good to see you again. It's good to see you again. It's good to see you again. It's good to see you again. It's good to see you again. I got to say, the first time I ran into Isaac, I saw him at the marina. I got to say, the first time I ran into Isaac, I saw him at the marina. I got to say, the first time I ran into Isaac, I saw him at the marina. I got to say, the first time I ran into Isaac, I saw him at the marina. I got to say, the first time I ran into Isaac, I saw him at the marina. You know, I spent time down there. You know, I spent time down there. You know, I spent time down there. You know, I spent time down there. You know, I spent time down there. Steve, I haven't seen you in a long time. Steve, I haven't seen you in a long time. Steve, I haven't seen you in a long time. Steve, I haven't seen you in a long time. Steve, I haven't seen you in a long time. What have you been doing? What have you been doing? What have you been doing? What have you been doing? What have you been doing? So thank you. So thank you. So thank you. So thank you. So thank you. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Seconder of the motion, final comments, Commissioner Degard. Seconder of the motion, final comments, Commissioner Degard. Seconder of the motion, final comments, Commissioner Degard. Seconder of the motion, final comments, Commissioner Degard. Seconder of the motion, final comments, Commissioner Degard.
How do you get marina into every one of your comments? How do you get marina into every one of your comments? How do you get marina into every one of your comments? How do you get marina into every one of your comments? How do you get marina into every one of your comments? He does. He does. He does. He does. He does. This has had nothing to do with the marina. This has had nothing to do with the marina. This has had nothing to do with the marina. This has had nothing to do with the marina. This has had nothing to do with the marina. This is a great investment. This is a great investment. This is a great investment. This is a great investment. This is a great investment. This is a great project. This is a great project. This is a great project. This is a great project. This is a great project. Fifty years. Fifty years. Fifty years. Fifty years. Fifty years. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? You might not even be here to think these things go bad. You might not even be here to think these things go bad. You might not even be here to think these things go bad. You might not even be here to think these things go bad. You might not even be here to think these things go bad. It's a good project. It's a good project. It's a good project. It's a good project. It's a good project. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments?
Yeah, just when you look at the price of this, even at a million dollars, what the cost would be to replace those pipes is just outstanding. Yeah, just when you look at the price of this, even at a million dollars, what the cost would be to replace those pipes is just outstanding. Yeah, just when you look at the price of this, even at a million dollars, what the cost would be to replace those pipes is just outstanding. Yeah, just when you look at the price of this, even at a million dollars, what the cost would be to replace those pipes is just outstanding. Yeah, just when you look at the price of this, even at a million dollars, what the cost would be to replace those pipes is just outstanding. So this is such, such a good project on showing residents our stewardship over our finances. So this is such, such a good project on showing residents our stewardship over our finances. So this is such, such a good project on showing residents our stewardship over our finances. So this is such, such a good project on showing residents our stewardship over our finances. So this is such, such a good project on showing residents our stewardship over our finances. So this is just wonderful. So this is just wonderful. So this is just wonderful. So this is just wonderful. So this is just wonderful. Thank you all very much. Thank you all very much. Thank you all very much. Thank you all very much. Thank you all very much.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Final comments, Vice Mayor. Final comments, Vice Mayor. Final comments, Vice Mayor. Final comments, Vice Mayor. Final comments, Vice Mayor.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. You know, I think you could probably bring the marina into every discussion that we have here. You know, I think you could probably bring the marina into every discussion that we have here. You know, I think you could probably bring the marina into every discussion that we have here. You know, I think you could probably bring the marina into every discussion that we have here. You know, I think you could probably bring the marina into every discussion that we have here. So, you know, great, great job, Isaac. So, you know, great, great job, Isaac. So, you know, great, great job, Isaac. So, you know, great, great job, Isaac. So, you know, great, great job, Isaac. And, yep, looking forward, let's get started. And, yep, looking forward, let's get started. And, yep, looking forward, let's get started. And, yep, looking forward, let's get started. And, yep, looking forward, let's get started. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Yeah, got nothing to add to that. Yeah, got nothing to add to that. Yeah, got nothing to add to that. Yeah, got nothing to add to that. Yeah, got nothing to add to that. I mean, great project, good use of money, and great job for presentation. I mean, great project, good use of money, and great job for presentation. I mean, great project, good use of money, and great job for presentation. I mean, great project, good use of money, and great job for presentation. I mean, great project, good use of money, and great job for presentation. So let us, I think this is a voice vote, right? So let us, I think this is a voice vote, right? So let us, I think this is a voice vote, right? So let us, I think this is a voice vote, right? So let us, I think this is a voice vote, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All in favor? All in favor? All in favor? All in favor? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Any opposed? Any opposed? Any opposed? Any opposed? Motion passes unanimously. Motion passes unanimously. Motion passes unanimously. Motion passes unanimously. Motion passes unanimously. Okay, so we have a decision. Okay, so we have a decision. Okay, so we have a decision. Okay, so we have a decision. Okay, so we have a decision. Do you want to take a break now or do the next one and take a break before the public hearing on the development project? Do you want to take a break now or do the next one and take a break before the public hearing on the development project? Do you want to take a break now or do the next one and take a break before the public hearing on the development project? Do you want to take a break now or do the next one and take a break before the public hearing on the development project? Do you want to take a break now or do the next one and take a break before the public hearing on the development project? I say, I say go. I say, I say go. I say, I say go. I say, I say go. I say, I say go. I say, yeah, okay, let's get the next one down and we'll leave the longer one. I say, yeah, okay, let's get the next one down and we'll leave the longer one. I say, yeah, okay, let's get the next one down and we'll leave the longer one. I say, yeah, okay, let's get the next one down and we'll leave the longer one. I say, yeah, okay, let's get the next one down and we'll leave the longer one. Okay, so 3C, consideration and approval of First Amendment to the interlocal agreement between City of Dunedin and Pinellas County for the commitment of tax increment revenues to the City of Dunedin Community Redevelopment District for the Midtown Parking Garage. Okay, so 3C, consideration and approval of First Amendment to the interlocal agreement between City of Dunedin and Pinellas County for the commitment of tax increment revenues to the City of Dunedin Community Redevelopment District for the Midtown Parking Garage. Okay, so 3C, consideration and approval of First Amendment to the interlocal agreement between City of Dunedin and Pinellas County for the commitment of tax increment revenues to the City of Dunedin Community Redevelopment District for the Midtown Parking Garage. Okay, so 3C, consideration and approval of First Amendment to the interlocal agreement between City of Dunedin and Pinellas County for the commitment of tax increment revenues to the City of Dunedin Community Redevelopment District for the Midtown Parking Garage. Okay, so 3C, consideration and approval of First Amendment to the interlocal agreement between City of Dunedin and Pinellas County for the commitment of tax increment revenues to the City of Dunedin Community Redevelopment District for the Midtown Parking Garage. I will go to staff presentation, Bob and Les and Matt. I will go to staff presentation, Bob and Les and Matt. I will go to staff presentation, Bob and Les and Matt. I will go to staff presentation, Bob and Les and Matt. I will go to staff presentation, Bob and Les and Matt.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Mayor and Commissioner, Bob Ironsmith, Economic Development Director. Mayor and Commissioner, Bob Ironsmith, Economic Development Director. Mayor and Commissioner, Bob Ironsmith, Economic Development Director. Mayor and Commissioner, Bob Ironsmith, Economic Development Director. Mayor and Commissioner, Bob Ironsmith, Economic Development Director. I've got Matt Jackson to my left, also Economic Development Manager, and Les Tyler, Finance Director. I've got Matt Jackson to my left, also Economic Development Manager, and Les Tyler, Finance Director. I've got Matt Jackson to my left, also Economic Development Manager, and Les Tyler, Finance Director. I've got Matt Jackson to my left, also Economic Development Manager, and Les Tyler, Finance Director. I've got Matt Jackson to my left, also Economic Development Manager, and Les Tyler, Finance Director. What I'd like to do first is just talk a little bit about the CRA, some of the aspects to it, and where we were with that property purchase. What I'd like to do first is just talk a little bit about the CRA, some of the aspects to it, and where we were with that property purchase. What I'd like to do first is just talk a little bit about the CRA, some of the aspects to it, and where we were with that property purchase. What I'd like to do first is just talk a little bit about the CRA, some of the aspects to it, and where we were with that property purchase. What I'd like to do first is just talk a little bit about the CRA, some of the aspects to it, and where we were with that property purchase. The first thing to know, it's a community redevelopment district, okay, we're 217 acres. The first thing to know, it's a community redevelopment district, okay, we're 217 acres. The first thing to know, it's a community redevelopment district, okay, we're 217 acres. The first thing to know, it's a community redevelopment district, okay, we're 217 acres. The first thing to know, it's a community redevelopment district, okay, we're 217 acres. Our focus is to revitalize the downtown. Our focus is to revitalize the downtown. Our focus is to revitalize the downtown. Our focus is to revitalize the downtown. Our focus is to revitalize the downtown. Our partner is Pinellas County and has been since 1988 when the CRA was initiated. Our partner is Pinellas County and has been since 1988 when the CRA was initiated. Our partner is Pinellas County and has been since 1988 when the CRA was initiated. Our partner is Pinellas County and has been since 1988 when the CRA was initiated. Our partner is Pinellas County and has been since 1988 when the CRA was initiated. The important part there is that Pinellas County provides funding as well as the redevelopment district to move forward with public improvements. The important part there is that Pinellas County provides funding as well as the redevelopment district to move forward with public improvements. The important part there is that Pinellas County provides funding as well as the redevelopment district to move forward with public improvements. The important part there is that Pinellas County provides funding as well as the redevelopment district to move forward with public improvements. The important part there is that Pinellas County provides funding as well as the redevelopment district to move forward with public improvements. What we have tonight is we want to go forward with the proposed parking garage. What we have tonight is we want to go forward with the proposed parking garage. What we have tonight is we want to go forward with the proposed parking garage. What we have tonight is we want to go forward with the proposed parking garage. What we have tonight is we want to go forward with the proposed parking garage. The property there was purchased at Douglas in Scotland for a garage. The property there was purchased at Douglas in Scotland for a garage. The property there was purchased at Douglas in Scotland for a garage. The property there was purchased at Douglas in Scotland for a garage. The property there was purchased at Douglas in Scotland for a garage. We feel a downtown garage is very necessary with the at-risk leased lots starting to move away. We feel a downtown garage is very necessary with the at-risk leased lots starting to move away. We feel a downtown garage is very necessary with the at-risk leased lots starting to move away. We feel a downtown garage is very necessary with the at-risk leased lots starting to move away. We feel a downtown garage is very necessary with the at-risk leased lots starting to move away. We also want to get a centralized parking garage. We also want to get a centralized parking garage. We also want to get a centralized parking garage. We also want to get a centralized parking garage. We also want to get a centralized parking garage. And, of course, the recent project with the Main Street Exchange, we're going to lose probably 55 to 60 spaces there. And, of course, the recent project with the Main Street Exchange, we're going to lose probably 55 to 60 spaces there. And, of course, the recent project with the Main Street Exchange, we're going to lose probably 55 to 60 spaces there. And, of course, the recent project with the Main Street Exchange, we're going to lose probably 55 to 60 spaces there. And, of course, the recent project with the Main Street Exchange, we're going to lose probably 55 to 60 spaces there. So I think it's very important for us to continue to move forward. So I think it's very important for us to continue to move forward. So I think it's very important for us to continue to move forward. So I think it's very important for us to continue to move forward. So I think it's very important for us to continue to move forward. What today is is to go ahead and deliberate on an interlocal agreement with Pinellas County. What today is is to go ahead and deliberate on an interlocal agreement with Pinellas County. What today is is to go ahead and deliberate on an interlocal agreement with Pinellas County. What today is is to go ahead and deliberate on an interlocal agreement with Pinellas County. What today is is to go ahead and deliberate on an interlocal agreement with Pinellas County. When you look to take on debt or assume debt, you also need to go to your partner, which is Pinellas County, asking for their approval. When you look to take on debt or assume debt, you also need to go to your partner, which is Pinellas County, asking for their approval. When you look to take on debt or assume debt, you also need to go to your partner, which is Pinellas County, asking for their approval. When you look to take on debt or assume debt, you also need to go to your partner, which is Pinellas County, asking for their approval. When you look to take on debt or assume debt, you also need to go to your partner, which is Pinellas County, asking for their approval. So today is really just step one for the City of Dunedin to look at the interlocal agreement and go ahead and recommend approval for it. So today is really just step one for the City of Dunedin to look at the interlocal agreement and go ahead and recommend approval for it. So today is really just step one for the City of Dunedin to look at the interlocal agreement and go ahead and recommend approval for it. So today is really just step one for the City of Dunedin to look at the interlocal agreement and go ahead and recommend approval for it. So today is really just step one for the City of Dunedin to look at the interlocal agreement and go ahead and recommend approval for it. But what I want to do is just share a couple items with you so you get an understanding. But what I want to do is just share a couple items with you so you get an understanding. But what I want to do is just share a couple items with you so you get an understanding. But what I want to do is just share a couple items with you so you get an understanding. But what I want to do is just share a couple items with you so you get an understanding. There is an existing agreement in place. There is an existing agreement in place. There is an existing agreement in place. There is an existing agreement in place. There is an existing agreement in place. Matt, you hit the next slide for me. Matt, you hit the next slide for me. Matt, you hit the next slide for me. Matt, you hit the next slide for me. Matt, you hit the next slide for me. This, obviously, is the rendering. This, obviously, is the rendering. This, obviously, is the rendering. This, obviously, is the rendering. This, obviously, is the rendering. You've seen this many times. You've seen this many times. You've seen this many times. You've seen this many times. You've seen this many times. And, of course, this is up there too in our project pages. And, of course, this is up there too in our project pages. And, of course, this is up there too in our project pages. And, of course, this is up there too in our project pages. And, of course, this is up there too in our project pages. This is the Midtown Parking Garage. This is the Midtown Parking Garage. This is the Midtown Parking Garage. This is the Midtown Parking Garage. This is the Midtown Parking Garage. The commissioner approved three shortlisted, qualified, designed contract firms. The commissioner approved three shortlisted, qualified, designed contract firms. The commissioner approved three shortlisted, qualified, designed contract firms. The commissioner approved three shortlisted, qualified, designed contract firms. The commissioner approved three shortlisted, qualified, designed contract firms. That's what you see on the left there. That's what you see on the left there. That's what you see on the left there. That's what you see on the left there. That's what you see on the left there. It's Finn Frock, Kokolak is contracting, and, of course, creative contractors. It's Finn Frock, Kokolak is contracting, and, of course, creative contractors. It's Finn Frock, Kokolak is contracting, and, of course, creative contractors. It's Finn Frock, Kokolak is contracting, and, of course, creative contractors. It's Finn Frock, Kokolak is contracting, and, of course, creative contractors. The cost for the total garage is $10.3, but to actually construct it is $9.1 million. The cost for the total garage is $10.3, but to actually construct it is $9.1 million. The cost for the total garage is $10.3, but to actually construct it is $9.1 million. The cost for the total garage is $10.3, but to actually construct it is $9.1 million. The cost for the total garage is $10.3, but to actually construct it is $9.1 million. So to construct is $9.1 million. So to construct is $9.1 million. So to construct is $9.1 million. So to construct is $9.1 million. So to construct is $9.1 million. This shows what we have in place today and where we're looking to get to. This shows what we have in place today and where we're looking to get to. This shows what we have in place today and where we're looking to get to. This shows what we have in place today and where we're looking to get to. This shows what we have in place today and where we're looking to get to. We originally had what's in place today for the interlocal agreement is around $6.594 million. We originally had what's in place today for the interlocal agreement is around $6.594 million. We originally had what's in place today for the interlocal agreement is around $6.594 million. We originally had what's in place today for the interlocal agreement is around $6.594 million. We originally had what's in place today for the interlocal agreement is around $6.594 million. This is what we received Pinellas County approval for. This is what we received Pinellas County approval for. This is what we received Pinellas County approval for. This is what we received Pinellas County approval for. This is what we received Pinellas County approval for. We used some of that ability for debt to purchase the property there at Douglas & Scotland at $4.114 million. We used some of that ability for debt to purchase the property there at Douglas & Scotland at $4.114 million. We used some of that ability for debt to purchase the property there at Douglas & Scotland at $4.114 million. We used some of that ability for debt to purchase the property there at Douglas & Scotland at $4.114 million. We used some of that ability for debt to purchase the property there at Douglas & Scotland at $4.114 million. So that already took place. So that already took place. So that already took place. So that already took place. So that already took place. In that existing interlocal agreement, we also had Skinner Boulevard, complete streets in there, In that existing interlocal agreement, we also had Skinner Boulevard, complete streets in there, In that existing interlocal agreement, we also had Skinner Boulevard, complete streets in there, In that existing interlocal agreement, we also had Skinner Boulevard, complete streets in there, In that existing interlocal agreement, we also had Skinner Boulevard, complete streets in there, somewhere around $2.48 million was going to be utilized for that. somewhere around $2.48 million was going to be utilized for that. somewhere around $2.48 million was going to be utilized for that. somewhere around $2.48 million was going to be utilized for that. somewhere around $2.48 million was going to be utilized for that. It was decided to go ahead and use ARPA funding for that so that $2.45 million is still available, It was decided to go ahead and use ARPA funding for that so that $2.45 million is still available, It was decided to go ahead and use ARPA funding for that so that $2.45 million is still available, It was decided to go ahead and use ARPA funding for that so that $2.45 million is still available, It was decided to go ahead and use ARPA funding for that so that $2.45 million is still available, but that was used for just existing ability. but that was used for just existing ability. but that was used for just existing ability. but that was used for just existing ability. but that was used for just existing ability. So what we're looking at is to use that $2.48 million plus an additional $756,000. So what we're looking at is to use that $2.48 million plus an additional $756,000. So what we're looking at is to use that $2.48 million plus an additional $756,000. So what we're looking at is to use that $2.48 million plus an additional $756,000. So what we're looking at is to use that $2.48 million plus an additional $756,000. That is just the additional debt that's looking to be assumed with the CRA, with Pinellas County. That is just the additional debt that's looking to be assumed with the CRA, with Pinellas County. That is just the additional debt that's looking to be assumed with the CRA, with Pinellas County. That is just the additional debt that's looking to be assumed with the CRA, with Pinellas County. That is just the additional debt that's looking to be assumed with the CRA, with Pinellas County. That's what's being provided to you today. That's what's being provided to you today. That's what's being provided to you today. That's what's being provided to you today. That's what's being provided to you today. You see the penny for Pinellas, that money was going to be used for some of the design aspects. You see the penny for Pinellas, that money was going to be used for some of the design aspects. You see the penny for Pinellas, that money was going to be used for some of the design aspects. You see the penny for Pinellas, that money was going to be used for some of the design aspects. You see the penny for Pinellas, that money was going to be used for some of the design aspects. So that kind of makes up where we are. So that kind of makes up where we are. So that kind of makes up where we are. So that kind of makes up where we are. So that kind of makes up where we are. I think it's important to note that the CRA sunsets in 2033. I think it's important to note that the CRA sunsets in 2033. I think it's important to note that the CRA sunsets in 2033. I think it's important to note that the CRA sunsets in 2033. I think it's important to note that the CRA sunsets in 2033. Okay, so we've got maybe five, six years left of the CRA in order to do our improvements. Okay, so we've got maybe five, six years left of the CRA in order to do our improvements. Okay, so we've got maybe five, six years left of the CRA in order to do our improvements. Okay, so we've got maybe five, six years left of the CRA in order to do our improvements. Okay, so we've got maybe five, six years left of the CRA in order to do our improvements. That means that some of this 15-year debt that we're looking to provide for the garage will need to be assumed by the general fund. That means that some of this 15-year debt that we're looking to provide for the garage will need to be assumed by the general fund. That means that some of this 15-year debt that we're looking to provide for the garage will need to be assumed by the general fund. That means that some of this 15-year debt that we're looking to provide for the garage will need to be assumed by the general fund. That means that some of this 15-year debt that we're looking to provide for the garage will need to be assumed by the general fund. Initially, that would be a very big concern and be alarming. Initially, that would be a very big concern and be alarming. Initially, that would be a very big concern and be alarming. Initially, that would be a very big concern and be alarming. Initially, that would be a very big concern and be alarming. But you have to understand that when the CRA sunsets, that very first year, $1.5 million will come to the general fund. But you have to understand that when the CRA sunsets, that very first year, $1.5 million will come to the general fund. But you have to understand that when the CRA sunsets, that very first year, $1.5 million will come to the general fund. But you have to understand that when the CRA sunsets, that very first year, $1.5 million will come to the general fund. But you have to understand that when the CRA sunsets, that very first year, $1.5 million will come to the general fund. It will go up to about $2.2 million in several years. It will go up to about $2.2 million in several years. It will go up to about $2.2 million in several years. It will go up to about $2.2 million in several years. It will go up to about $2.2 million in several years. How is that? It's the assessed property values that have been created from 1988. How is that? It's the assessed property values that have been created from 1988. How is that? It's the assessed property values that have been created from 1988. How is that? It's the assessed property values that have been created from 1988. How is that? It's the assessed property values that have been created from 1988. Instead of going to the county and going to the city, this will just go to the city to $1.5 million. Instead of going to the county and going to the city, this will just go to the city to $1.5 million. Instead of going to the county and going to the city, this will just go to the city to $1.5 million. Instead of going to the county and going to the city, this will just go to the city to $1.5 million. Instead of going to the county and going to the city, this will just go to the city to $1.5 million. The county, though, will also get their share. They'll get $1.5 million. The county, though, will also get their share. They'll get $1.5 million. The county, though, will also get their share. They'll get $1.5 million. The county, though, will also get their share. They'll get $1.5 million. The county, though, will also get their share. They'll get $1.5 million. Again, that's the accumulation of assessed property values that have taken place. Again, that's the accumulation of assessed property values that have taken place. Again, that's the accumulation of assessed property values that have taken place. Again, that's the accumulation of assessed property values that have taken place. Again, that's the accumulation of assessed property values that have taken place. So I think it's important to note that although the general fund will be assuming some of the debt in the future, So I think it's important to note that although the general fund will be assuming some of the debt in the future, So I think it's important to note that although the general fund will be assuming some of the debt in the future, So I think it's important to note that although the general fund will be assuming some of the debt in the future, So I think it's important to note that although the general fund will be assuming some of the debt in the future, the CRA will be bringing $1.5 million. the CRA will be bringing $1.5 million. the CRA will be bringing $1.5 million. the CRA will be bringing $1.5 million. the CRA will be bringing $1.5 million. The debt service on the garage, of course, less is here, somewhere in the $850,000 range. The debt service on the garage, of course, less is here, somewhere in the $850,000 range. The debt service on the garage, of course, less is here, somewhere in the $850,000 range. The debt service on the garage, of course, less is here, somewhere in the $850,000 range. The debt service on the garage, of course, less is here, somewhere in the $850,000 range. This is just kind of a nice flow aspect of where we are. This is just kind of a nice flow aspect of where we are. This is just kind of a nice flow aspect of where we are. This is just kind of a nice flow aspect of where we are. This is just kind of a nice flow aspect of where we are. You see that existing, okay? You see that existing, okay? You see that existing, okay? You see that existing, okay? You see that existing, okay? You see that we used $4.114 million for the property. You see that we used $4.114 million for the property. You see that we used $4.114 million for the property. You see that we used $4.114 million for the property. You see that we used $4.114 million for the property. And you see the Skinner, the $2.48, that instead was reallocated because ARPA paid for Skinner. And you see the Skinner, the $2.48, that instead was reallocated because ARPA paid for Skinner. And you see the Skinner, the $2.48, that instead was reallocated because ARPA paid for Skinner. And you see the Skinner, the $2.48, that instead was reallocated because ARPA paid for Skinner. And you see the Skinner, the $2.48, that instead was reallocated because ARPA paid for Skinner. And you can see that what we need to get to is we need another $756,000 in order to cover a future 15-year loan. And you can see that what we need to get to is we need another $756,000 in order to cover a future 15-year loan. And you can see that what we need to get to is we need another $756,000 in order to cover a future 15-year loan. And you can see that what we need to get to is we need another $756,000 in order to cover a future 15-year loan. And you can see that what we need to get to is we need another $756,000 in order to cover a future 15-year loan. And that's kind of the last one you see, the amended interlocal agreement. And that's kind of the last one you see, the amended interlocal agreement. And that's kind of the last one you see, the amended interlocal agreement. And that's kind of the last one you see, the amended interlocal agreement. And that's kind of the last one you see, the amended interlocal agreement. So to translate, what's being asked for today is to amend the initial interlocal agreement with an additional $756,000. So to translate, what's being asked for today is to amend the initial interlocal agreement with an additional $756,000. So to translate, what's being asked for today is to amend the initial interlocal agreement with an additional $756,000. So to translate, what's being asked for today is to amend the initial interlocal agreement with an additional $756,000. So to translate, what's being asked for today is to amend the initial interlocal agreement with an additional $756,000. This would have to be approved by the City Commission and approved by the county. This would have to be approved by the City Commission and approved by the county. This would have to be approved by the City Commission and approved by the county. This would have to be approved by the City Commission and approved by the county. This would have to be approved by the City Commission and approved by the county. From that point on, there's still many critical steps that need to go forward with this parking garage. From that point on, there's still many critical steps that need to go forward with this parking garage. From that point on, there's still many critical steps that need to go forward with this parking garage. From that point on, there's still many critical steps that need to go forward with this parking garage. From that point on, there's still many critical steps that need to go forward with this parking garage. This is probably only the second step in a, geez, I know it was part of staffing, a 15-step type process. This is probably only the second step in a, geez, I know it was part of staffing, a 15-step type process. This is probably only the second step in a, geez, I know it was part of staffing, a 15-step type process. This is probably only the second step in a, geez, I know it was part of staffing, a 15-step type process. This is probably only the second step in a, geez, I know it was part of staffing, a 15-step type process. So there's a long time to go on this. So there's a long time to go on this. So there's a long time to go on this. So there's a long time to go on this. So there's a long time to go on this. But this is an important one in order for us to continue. But this is an important one in order for us to continue. But this is an important one in order for us to continue. But this is an important one in order for us to continue. But this is an important one in order for us to continue. So I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, and, of course, I have less title here with finance for anything in particular. So I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, and, of course, I have less title here with finance for anything in particular. So I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, and, of course, I have less title here with finance for anything in particular. So I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, and, of course, I have less title here with finance for anything in particular. So I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have, and, of course, I have less title here with finance for anything in particular.
Bob, before I open it up for questions, so all we're doing here is approving the agreement that we would make with the county Bob, before I open it up for questions, so all we're doing here is approving the agreement that we would make with the county Bob, before I open it up for questions, so all we're doing here is approving the agreement that we would make with the county Bob, before I open it up for questions, so all we're doing here is approving the agreement that we would make with the county Bob, before I open it up for questions, so all we're doing here is approving the agreement that we would make with the county to add another $760,000-some-thousand to the limit of what we could pull out of this tax increment financing. to add another $760,000-some-thousand to the limit of what we could pull out of this tax increment financing. to add another $760,000-some-thousand to the limit of what we could pull out of this tax increment financing. to add another $760,000-some-thousand to the limit of what we could pull out of this tax increment financing. to add another $760,000-some-thousand to the limit of what we could pull out of this tax increment financing. Well said. Well said. Well said. Well said. Well said. Yes, that's it. Yes, that's it. Yes, that's it. Yes, that's it. Yes, that's it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. I mean, it's not a go or no go to anything. I mean, it's not a go or no go to anything. I mean, it's not a go or no go to anything. I mean, it's not a go or no go to anything. I mean, it's not a go or no go to anything. It's just changing that agreement to give maximum potential. It's just changing that agreement to give maximum potential. It's just changing that agreement to give maximum potential. It's just changing that agreement to give maximum potential. It's just changing that agreement to give maximum potential.
Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I will go with questions. So I will go with questions. So I will go with questions. So I will go with questions. So I will go with questions. Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao. Commissioner Gao.
Oh, thank you, Mayor. Oh, thank you, Mayor. Oh, thank you, Mayor. Oh, thank you, Mayor. Oh, thank you, Mayor. Bob, if this all goes through and it gets built, what do you anticipate the annual maintenance costs of the garage to be? Bob, if this all goes through and it gets built, what do you anticipate the annual maintenance costs of the garage to be? Bob, if this all goes through and it gets built, what do you anticipate the annual maintenance costs of the garage to be? Bob, if this all goes through and it gets built, what do you anticipate the annual maintenance costs of the garage to be? Bob, if this all goes through and it gets built, what do you anticipate the annual maintenance costs of the garage to be? $43,000. $43,000. $43,000. $43,000. $43,000. Annually? Annually? Annually? Annually? Annually? Annually. Annually. Annually. Annually. Annually. What is the annual maintenance cost of the Monroe garage? What is the annual maintenance cost of the Monroe garage? What is the annual maintenance cost of the Monroe garage? What is the annual maintenance cost of the Monroe garage? What is the annual maintenance cost of the Monroe garage?
It's much higher, but we're self-insured. It's much higher, but we're self-insured. It's much higher, but we're self-insured. It's much higher, but we're self-insured. It's much higher, but we're self-insured. We're self-insured, so our cost level for maintenance is much less than what the private garage is because we're self-insured. We're self-insured, so our cost level for maintenance is much less than what the private garage is because we're self-insured. We're self-insured, so our cost level for maintenance is much less than what the private garage is because we're self-insured. We're self-insured, so our cost level for maintenance is much less than what the private garage is because we're self-insured. We're self-insured, so our cost level for maintenance is much less than what the private garage is because we're self-insured. So we get economies of scale. So we get economies of scale. So we get economies of scale. So we get economies of scale. So we get economies of scale.
Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good.
Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. Very good.
And it might have been in the staffing and I didn't see it, but what are we anticipating the monthly payments on that debt to be? And it might have been in the staffing and I didn't see it, but what are we anticipating the monthly payments on that debt to be? And it might have been in the staffing and I didn't see it, but what are we anticipating the monthly payments on that debt to be? And it might have been in the staffing and I didn't see it, but what are we anticipating the monthly payments on that debt to be? And it might have been in the staffing and I didn't see it, but what are we anticipating the monthly payments on that debt to be? I'm thinking about that $1.5 million that we'll get when it sunsets. I'm thinking about that $1.5 million that we'll get when it sunsets. I'm thinking about that $1.5 million that we'll get when it sunsets. I'm thinking about that $1.5 million that we'll get when it sunsets. I'm thinking about that $1.5 million that we'll get when it sunsets. Will that be enough to cover the maintenance? Will that be enough to cover the maintenance? Will that be enough to cover the maintenance? Will that be enough to cover the maintenance? Will that be enough to cover the maintenance? Will it be enough to cover debt? Will it be enough to cover debt? Will it be enough to cover debt? Will it be enough to cover debt? Will it be enough to cover debt? Will it be enough to cover? Will it be enough to cover? Will it be enough to cover? Will it be enough to cover? Will it be enough to cover?
Certainly, Commissioner. Certainly, Commissioner. Certainly, Commissioner. Certainly, Commissioner. Certainly, Commissioner. The debt, and I have less here, but somewhere around $850,000 would be the debt service for it. The debt, and I have less here, but somewhere around $850,000 would be the debt service for it. The debt, and I have less here, but somewhere around $850,000 would be the debt service for it. The debt, and I have less here, but somewhere around $850,000 would be the debt service for it. The debt, and I have less here, but somewhere around $850,000 would be the debt service for it. And, of course, $1.5 million is just the first year. And, of course, $1.5 million is just the first year. And, of course, $1.5 million is just the first year. And, of course, $1.5 million is just the first year. And, of course, $1.5 million is just the first year. It will go probably up to about $2.2 million in five or six years. It will go probably up to about $2.2 million in five or six years. It will go probably up to about $2.2 million in five or six years. It will go probably up to about $2.2 million in five or six years. It will go probably up to about $2.2 million in five or six years. So it's a very strong revenue stream. So it's a very strong revenue stream. So it's a very strong revenue stream. So it's a very strong revenue stream. So it's a very strong revenue stream.
And just to make sure I understand it as well as the residents, what that $1.5 million is, is that's money that you're currently getting now with the CRA. And just to make sure I understand it as well as the residents, what that $1.5 million is, is that's money that you're currently getting now with the CRA. And just to make sure I understand it as well as the residents, what that $1.5 million is, is that's money that you're currently getting now with the CRA. And just to make sure I understand it as well as the residents, what that $1.5 million is, is that's money that you're currently getting now with the CRA. And just to make sure I understand it as well as the residents, what that $1.5 million is, is that's money that you're currently getting now with the CRA. And once it sunsets, that will be moved to the general fund. And once it sunsets, that will be moved to the general fund. And once it sunsets, that will be moved to the general fund. And once it sunsets, that will be moved to the general fund. And once it sunsets, that will be moved to the general fund. That's correct. That's correct. That's correct. That's correct. That's correct. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. That is correct. That is correct. That is correct. That is correct. That is correct. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got.
Mayor, if I may. Mayor, if I may. Mayor, if I may. Mayor, if I may. Mayor, if I may. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. So the plan moving forward, then, is to put it in a special revenue account in the general fund so that it's, it's always, it's very clear. So the plan moving forward, then, is to put it in a special revenue account in the general fund so that it's, it's always, it's very clear. So the plan moving forward, then, is to put it in a special revenue account in the general fund so that it's, it's always, it's very clear. So the plan moving forward, then, is to put it in a special revenue account in the general fund so that it's, it's always, it's very clear. So the plan moving forward, then, is to put it in a special revenue account in the general fund so that it's, it's always, it's very clear. It's very earmarked in the general fund where it's going to go to pay the debt on the, for the CRA that would have paid. It's very earmarked in the general fund where it's going to go to pay the debt on the, for the CRA that would have paid. It's very earmarked in the general fund where it's going to go to pay the debt on the, for the CRA that would have paid. It's very earmarked in the general fund where it's going to go to pay the debt on the, for the CRA that would have paid. It's very earmarked in the general fund where it's going to go to pay the debt on the, for the CRA that would have paid. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Questions? Questions? Questions? Questions? Questions? Commissioner DeGuard. Commissioner DeGuard. Commissioner DeGuard. Commissioner DeGuard. Commissioner DeGuard.
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mayor.
I noticed that we have Penny for Pinellas funds in this. I noticed that we have Penny for Pinellas funds in this. I noticed that we have Penny for Pinellas funds in this. I noticed that we have Penny for Pinellas funds in this. I noticed that we have Penny for Pinellas funds in this. Uh, that has to come up for a vote again in the near future is, what are the assumptions around that, those dollars? Uh, that has to come up for a vote again in the near future is, what are the assumptions around that, those dollars? Uh, that has to come up for a vote again in the near future is, what are the assumptions around that, those dollars? Uh, that has to come up for a vote again in the near future is, what are the assumptions around that, those dollars? Uh, that has to come up for a vote again in the near future is, what are the assumptions around that, those dollars? Are those already committed or are we looking at, or is there any speculation in the Penny? Are those already committed or are we looking at, or is there any speculation in the Penny? Are those already committed or are we looking at, or is there any speculation in the Penny? Are those already committed or are we looking at, or is there any speculation in the Penny? Are those already committed or are we looking at, or is there any speculation in the Penny?
Uh, Commissioner already committed, already approved. Uh, Commissioner already committed, already approved. Uh, Commissioner already committed, already approved. Uh, Commissioner already committed, already approved. Uh, Commissioner already committed, already approved. It's been there for several years. It's been there for several years. It's been there for several years. It's been there for several years. It's been there for several years. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. It actually was a higher amount than, of course, some of the dollars were used for other, other aspects. It actually was a higher amount than, of course, some of the dollars were used for other, other aspects. It actually was a higher amount than, of course, some of the dollars were used for other, other aspects. It actually was a higher amount than, of course, some of the dollars were used for other, other aspects. It actually was a higher amount than, of course, some of the dollars were used for other, other aspects.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's all I have, Mayor. That's all I have, Mayor. That's all I have, Mayor. That's all I have, Mayor. That's all I have, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Uh, questions, Vice Mayor? Uh, questions, Vice Mayor? Uh, questions, Vice Mayor? Uh, questions, Vice Mayor? Uh, questions, Vice Mayor?
Uh, no questions, Mayor. Uh, no questions, Mayor. Uh, no questions, Mayor. Uh, no questions, Mayor. Uh, no questions, Mayor.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Questions, Commissioner Sandbergen. Questions, Commissioner Sandbergen. Questions, Commissioner Sandbergen. Questions, Commissioner Sandbergen. Questions, Commissioner Sandbergen.
The last thing would be, you know, every time we talk about parking garages, there's two words that come up, at risk. The last thing would be, you know, every time we talk about parking garages, there's two words that come up, at risk. The last thing would be, you know, every time we talk about parking garages, there's two words that come up, at risk. The last thing would be, you know, every time we talk about parking garages, there's two words that come up, at risk. The last thing would be, you know, every time we talk about parking garages, there's two words that come up, at risk. If and when this goes through, can we get out of, and walk away from some of those leases so we don't have to have that held over our heads? If and when this goes through, can we get out of, and walk away from some of those leases so we don't have to have that held over our heads? If and when this goes through, can we get out of, and walk away from some of those leases so we don't have to have that held over our heads? If and when this goes through, can we get out of, and walk away from some of those leases so we don't have to have that held over our heads? If and when this goes through, can we get out of, and walk away from some of those leases so we don't have to have that held over our heads?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is the plan. That is the plan. That is the plan. That is the plan. That is the plan.
You know, there's maybe one or two lots that are, make sense, and the rest do not make sense. You know, there's maybe one or two lots that are, make sense, and the rest do not make sense. You know, there's maybe one or two lots that are, make sense, and the rest do not make sense. You know, there's maybe one or two lots that are, make sense, and the rest do not make sense. You know, there's maybe one or two lots that are, make sense, and the rest do not make sense. So, yes, this would be a step in that process for sure. So, yes, this would be a step in that process for sure. So, yes, this would be a step in that process for sure. So, yes, this would be a step in that process for sure. So, yes, this would be a step in that process for sure.
That's all I had, Mayor. That's all I had, Mayor. That's all I had, Mayor. That's all I had, Mayor. That's all I had, Mayor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, I just had one question, Les, I think, for you. Um, I just had one question, Les, I think, for you. Um, I just had one question, Les, I think, for you. Um, I just had one question, Les, I think, for you. Um, I just had one question, Les, I think, for you. So, um, if, um, we go forward with this, the next level of, level of penny for Pinellas gets voted in, would it make sense that we would just pay it off, and would there be a penalty for paying it off, the loan? So, um, if, um, we go forward with this, the next level of, level of penny for Pinellas gets voted in, would it make sense that we would just pay it off, and would there be a penalty for paying it off, the loan? So, um, if, um, we go forward with this, the next level of, level of penny for Pinellas gets voted in, would it make sense that we would just pay it off, and would there be a penalty for paying it off, the loan? So, um, if, um, we go forward with this, the next level of, level of penny for Pinellas gets voted in, would it make sense that we would just pay it off, and would there be a penalty for paying it off, the loan? So, um, if, um, we go forward with this, the next level of, level of penny for Pinellas gets voted in, would it make sense that we would just pay it off, and would there be a penalty for paying it off, the loan?
Uh, we, we could pay it off early, and, and also, when we, assuming this moves forward and the commission approves the loan, a formal loan in the future, we would definitely make sure that future loan has no prepayment penalties. Uh, we, we could pay it off early, and, and also, when we, assuming this moves forward and the commission approves the loan, a formal loan in the future, we would definitely make sure that future loan has no prepayment penalties. Uh, we, we could pay it off early, and, and also, when we, assuming this moves forward and the commission approves the loan, a formal loan in the future, we would definitely make sure that future loan has no prepayment penalties. Uh, we, we could pay it off early, and, and also, when we, assuming this moves forward and the commission approves the loan, a formal loan in the future, we would definitely make sure that future loan has no prepayment penalties. Uh, we, we could pay it off early, and, and also, when we, assuming this moves forward and the commission approves the loan, a formal loan in the future, we would definitely make sure that future loan has no prepayment penalties. We make sure of that, and we would, uh, either, we could pay it off, or we could also just, uh, you know, watch, watch the market and refinance at some point, you know, because I would estimate in the next, you know, eight years or less, the rates will go down, and, and that, that gives an opportunity to get that rate below. We make sure of that, and we would, uh, either, we could pay it off, or we could also just, uh, you know, watch, watch the market and refinance at some point, you know, because I would estimate in the next, you know, eight years or less, the rates will go down, and, and that, that gives an opportunity to get that rate below. We make sure of that, and we would, uh, either, we could pay it off, or we could also just, uh, you know, watch, watch the market and refinance at some point, you know, because I would estimate in the next, you know, eight years or less, the rates will go down, and, and that, that gives an opportunity to get that rate below. We make sure of that, and we would, uh, either, we could pay it off, or we could also just, uh, you know, watch, watch the market and refinance at some point, you know, because I would estimate in the next, you know, eight years or less, the rates will go down, and, and that, that gives an opportunity to get that rate below. We make sure of that, and we would, uh, either, we could pay it off, or we could also just, uh, you know, watch, watch the market and refinance at some point, you know, because I would estimate in the next, you know, eight years or less, the rates will go down, and, and that, that gives an opportunity to get that rate below. So, we're estimating in these numbers, four and a half percent interest rate, that's the estimate now, that's, we think, reasonably conservative, but assuming it is four and a half, and, and we would make sure we had no prepayment penalties, and we could refile it, or we could pay it off early, like you said. So, we're estimating in these numbers, four and a half percent interest rate, that's the estimate now, that's, we think, reasonably conservative, but assuming it is four and a half, and, and we would make sure we had no prepayment penalties, and we could refile it, or we could pay it off early, like you said. So, we're estimating in these numbers, four and a half percent interest rate, that's the estimate now, that's, we think, reasonably conservative, but assuming it is four and a half, and, and we would make sure we had no prepayment penalties, and we could refile it, or we could pay it off early, like you said. So, we're estimating in these numbers, four and a half percent interest rate, that's the estimate now, that's, we think, reasonably conservative, but assuming it is four and a half, and, and we would make sure we had no prepayment penalties, and we could refile it, or we could pay it off early, like you said. So, we're estimating in these numbers, four and a half percent interest rate, that's the estimate now, that's, we think, reasonably conservative, but assuming it is four and a half, and, and we would make sure we had no prepayment penalties, and we could refile it, or we could pay it off early, like you said.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. Um, okay. Um, okay. Um, okay. Um, okay. I don't have any other questions, so, um, I'm going to open it for public input. I don't have any other questions, so, um, I'm going to open it for public input. I don't have any other questions, so, um, I'm going to open it for public input. I don't have any other questions, so, um, I'm going to open it for public input. I don't have any other questions, so, um, I'm going to open it for public input. Anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak on this issue? Anyone in the audience wish to come forward and speak on this issue? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Seeing no one, I will close public input, and I will ask for a motion. Seeing no one, I will close public input, and I will ask for a motion. Seeing no one, I will close public input, and I will ask for a motion. Seeing no one, I will close public input, and I will ask for a motion. Seeing no one, I will close public input, and I will ask for a motion.
So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. So moved. Second. Second. Second. Second. Second.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Final comments, starting with make our motion. Final comments, starting with make our motion. Final comments, starting with make our motion. Final comments, starting with make our motion. Final comments, starting with make our motion. Vice Mayor? Vice Mayor? Vice Mayor? Vice Mayor? Vice Mayor?
Uh, no additional comments, Mayor. Uh, no additional comments, Mayor. Uh, no additional comments, Mayor. Uh, no additional comments, Mayor. Uh, no additional comments, Mayor.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Seconder of the motion, Commissioner Dugard? Seconder of the motion, Commissioner Dugard? Seconder of the motion, Commissioner Dugard? Seconder of the motion, Commissioner Dugard? Seconder of the motion, Commissioner Dugard?
I just think this is a, uh, project that's been a lot of work. I just think this is a, uh, project that's been a lot of work. I just think this is a, uh, project that's been a lot of work. I just think this is a, uh, project that's been a lot of work. I just think this is a, uh, project that's been a lot of work. I think we're dependent on it for the future of our downtown. I think we're dependent on it for the future of our downtown. I think we're dependent on it for the future of our downtown. I think we're dependent on it for the future of our downtown. I think we're dependent on it for the future of our downtown. I support the project. I support the project. I support the project. I support the project. I support the project.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments? Commissioner Gow, final comments?
Thank you, Tom, uh, for, for supporting. Thank you, Tom, uh, for, for supporting. Thank you, Tom, uh, for, for supporting. Thank you, Tom, uh, for, for supporting. Thank you, Tom, uh, for, for supporting. Bob, you know, for a long time that I, I've never supported the garage. Bob, you know, for a long time that I, I've never supported the garage. Bob, you know, for a long time that I, I've never supported the garage. Bob, you know, for a long time that I, I've never supported the garage. Bob, you know, for a long time that I, I've never supported the garage. Uh, I'm just concerned about the traffic and encouraging people to drive into our downtown, which we're trying to make walkable. Uh, I'm just concerned about the traffic and encouraging people to drive into our downtown, which we're trying to make walkable. Uh, I'm just concerned about the traffic and encouraging people to drive into our downtown, which we're trying to make walkable. Uh, I'm just concerned about the traffic and encouraging people to drive into our downtown, which we're trying to make walkable. Uh, I'm just concerned about the traffic and encouraging people to drive into our downtown, which we're trying to make walkable. Um, and then all on one street. Um, and then all on one street. Um, and then all on one street. Um, and then all on one street. Um, and then all on one street. We, we, we just approved, uh, the main street exchange at the corner of main street and Douglas. We, we, we just approved, uh, the main street exchange at the corner of main street and Douglas. We, we, we just approved, uh, the main street exchange at the corner of main street and Douglas. We, we, we just approved, uh, the main street exchange at the corner of main street and Douglas. We, we, we just approved, uh, the main street exchange at the corner of main street and Douglas. So basically Douglas. So basically Douglas. So basically Douglas. So basically Douglas. So basically Douglas. Also with that project, we got another parking garage on Douglas. Also with that project, we got another parking garage on Douglas. Also with that project, we got another parking garage on Douglas. Also with that project, we got another parking garage on Douglas. Also with that project, we got another parking garage on Douglas. And that's within a block and a half. And that's within a block and a half. And that's within a block and a half. And that's within a block and a half. And that's within a block and a half. We've got two garages and probably the biggest project that, that is going to be in downtown Dunedin. We've got two garages and probably the biggest project that, that is going to be in downtown Dunedin. We've got two garages and probably the biggest project that, that is going to be in downtown Dunedin. We've got two garages and probably the biggest project that, that is going to be in downtown Dunedin. We've got two garages and probably the biggest project that, that is going to be in downtown Dunedin. And to me, it's just way, way too much. And to me, it's just way, way too much. And to me, it's just way, way too much. And to me, it's just way, way too much. And to me, it's just way, way too much. It is going to change, not for the better, our downtown and it's just traffic on Douglas. It is going to change, not for the better, our downtown and it's just traffic on Douglas. It is going to change, not for the better, our downtown and it's just traffic on Douglas. It is going to change, not for the better, our downtown and it's just traffic on Douglas. It is going to change, not for the better, our downtown and it's just traffic on Douglas. It's just going to be absolutely horrendous. It's just going to be absolutely horrendous. It's just going to be absolutely horrendous. It's just going to be absolutely horrendous. It's just going to be absolutely horrendous. And so I, I cannot support this. And so I, I cannot support this. And so I, I cannot support this. And so I, I cannot support this. And so I, I cannot support this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Final comments. Final comments. Final comments. Final comments. Final comments. Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg. Commissioner Sandberg.
I really, I have nothing to add, mayor. I really, I have nothing to add, mayor. I really, I have nothing to add, mayor. I really, I have nothing to add, mayor. I really, I have nothing to add, mayor.
Um, no, I mean, again, this is just making sure we have full opportunity for whatever we decide. Um, no, I mean, again, this is just making sure we have full opportunity for whatever we decide. Um, no, I mean, again, this is just making sure we have full opportunity for whatever we decide. Um, no, I mean, again, this is just making sure we have full opportunity for whatever we decide. Um, no, I mean, again, this is just making sure we have full opportunity for whatever we decide. It's not go or no go on anything. It's not go or no go on anything. It's not go or no go on anything. It's not go or no go on anything. It's not go or no go on anything. So I'm in favor of it. So I'm in favor of it. So I'm in favor of it. So I'm in favor of it. So I'm in favor of it. Um, so, uh, all in favor. Um, so, uh, all in favor. Um, so, uh, all in favor. Um, so, uh, all in favor. Um, so, uh, all in favor. I, I, I, uh, any opposed? I, I, I, uh, any opposed? I, I, I, uh, any opposed? I, I, I, uh, any opposed? I, I, I, uh, any opposed?
No. No. No. No. No.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Motion passes four to one. Motion passes four to one. Motion passes four to one. Motion passes four to one. Motion passes four to one. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Our next item is going to be a 3d, but we're going to take a quick break before we go into Our next item is going to be a 3d, but we're going to take a quick break before we go into Our next item is going to be a 3d, but we're going to take a quick break before we go into Our next item is going to be a 3d, but we're going to take a quick break before we go into Our next item is going to be a 3d, but we're going to take a quick break before we go into that. that. that. that. that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. We'll bring the meeting back to order. We'll bring the meeting back to order. We'll bring the meeting back to order. We'll bring the meeting back to order. We'll bring the meeting back to order. This is the first hearing of application. This is the first hearing of application. This is the first hearing of application. This is the first hearing of application. This is the first hearing of application. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dash 20, 25 dash zero zero zero three request for design review approval for the development Dash 20, 25 dash zero zero zero three request for design review approval for the development Dash 20, 25 dash zero zero zero three request for design review approval for the development Dash 20, 25 dash zero zero zero three request for design review approval for the development Dash 20, 25 dash zero zero zero three request for design review approval for the development of a new four story, three stories over ground floor parking, multifamily residential of a new four story, three stories over ground floor parking, multifamily residential of a new four story, three stories over ground floor parking, multifamily residential of a new four story, three stories over ground floor parking, multifamily residential of a new four story, three stories over ground floor parking, multifamily residential building with five dwelling units total on a 0.21 acre vacant parcel located on Skinner building with five dwelling units total on a 0.21 acre vacant parcel located on Skinner building with five dwelling units total on a 0.21 acre vacant parcel located on Skinner building with five dwelling units total on a 0.21 acre vacant parcel located on Skinner building with five dwelling units total on a 0.21 acre vacant parcel located on Skinner Boulevard. Boulevard. Boulevard. Boulevard. Boulevard. Uh, this item is quasi judicial. Uh, this item is quasi judicial. Uh, this item is quasi judicial. Uh, this item is quasi judicial. Uh, this item is quasi judicial. Uh, so, um, do we need to swear in first here? Uh, so, um, do we need to swear in first here? Uh, so, um, do we need to swear in first here? Uh, so, um, do we need to swear in first here? Uh, so, um, do we need to swear in first here? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I say, okay. I say, okay. I say, okay. I say, okay. I say, okay. We need to swear people in. We need to swear people in. We need to swear people in. We need to swear people in. We need to swear people in. So if you're going to be getting, uh, speaking on this, please rest. So if you're going to be getting, uh, speaking on this, please rest. So if you're going to be getting, uh, speaking on this, please rest. So if you're going to be getting, uh, speaking on this, please rest. So if you're going to be getting, uh, speaking on this, please rest. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I think what this said, I was formally supposed to say that public hearing is open. I think what this said, I was formally supposed to say that public hearing is open. I think what this said, I was formally supposed to say that public hearing is open. I think what this said, I was formally supposed to say that public hearing is open. I think what this said, I was formally supposed to say that public hearing is open. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Then you're sworn in, but you're sworn in. Then you're sworn in, but you're sworn in. Then you're sworn in, but you're sworn in. Then you're sworn in, but you're sworn in. Then you're sworn in, but you're sworn in. And so does anyone have any ex parte communication to disclose for the record up here? And so does anyone have any ex parte communication to disclose for the record up here? And so does anyone have any ex parte communication to disclose for the record up here? And so does anyone have any ex parte communication to disclose for the record up here? And so does anyone have any ex parte communication to disclose for the record up here? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Seeing no one, um, I'm going to go to the staff presentation, which is George and Bob. Seeing no one, um, I'm going to go to the staff presentation, which is George and Bob. Seeing no one, um, I'm going to go to the staff presentation, which is George and Bob. Seeing no one, um, I'm going to go to the staff presentation, which is George and Bob. Seeing no one, um, I'm going to go to the staff presentation, which is George and Bob.
Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, George Kinney on behalf of community development department and seated to my right is, as you Uh, George Kinney on behalf of community development department and seated to my right is, as you Uh, George Kinney on behalf of community development department and seated to my right is, as you Uh, George Kinney on behalf of community development department and seated to my right is, as you Uh, George Kinney on behalf of community development department and seated to my right is, as you know, Robert Ironsmith with the economic development division. know, Robert Ironsmith with the economic development division. know, Robert Ironsmith with the economic development division. know, Robert Ironsmith with the economic development division. know, Robert Ironsmith with the economic development division. And he typically accompanies, accompanies me with, uh, these types of requests when they're And he typically accompanies, accompanies me with, uh, these types of requests when they're And he typically accompanies, accompanies me with, uh, these types of requests when they're And he typically accompanies, accompanies me with, uh, these types of requests when they're And he typically accompanies, accompanies me with, uh, these types of requests when they're located in the CRA, which this project is. located in the CRA, which this project is. located in the CRA, which this project is. located in the CRA, which this project is. located in the CRA, which this project is. Uh, so very quickly, Mayor, just to orient everybody to the property. Uh, so very quickly, Mayor, just to orient everybody to the property. Uh, so very quickly, Mayor, just to orient everybody to the property. Uh, so very quickly, Mayor, just to orient everybody to the property. Uh, so very quickly, Mayor, just to orient everybody to the property. George, would you pull the microphone closer to you? George, would you pull the microphone closer to you? George, would you pull the microphone closer to you? George, would you pull the microphone closer to you? George, would you pull the microphone closer to you? They don't seem to be very loud tonight, do they? They don't seem to be very loud tonight, do they? They don't seem to be very loud tonight, do they? They don't seem to be very loud tonight, do they? They don't seem to be very loud tonight, do they?
They're not very loud. They're not very loud. They're not very loud. They're not very loud. They're not very loud. The people in the back need to hear you. The people in the back need to hear you. The people in the back need to hear you. The people in the back need to hear you. The people in the back need to hear you. It's definitely all. It's definitely all. It's definitely all. It's definitely all. It's definitely all.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So very quickly, just to orient you to the subject property. So very quickly, just to orient you to the subject property. So very quickly, just to orient you to the subject property. So very quickly, just to orient you to the subject property. So very quickly, just to orient you to the subject property. Uh, this is located on the north side of Skinner and it's actually right in between the Uh, this is located on the north side of Skinner and it's actually right in between the Uh, this is located on the north side of Skinner and it's actually right in between the Uh, this is located on the north side of Skinner and it's actually right in between the Uh, this is located on the north side of Skinner and it's actually right in between the two roundabouts, uh, at Douglas and Highland. two roundabouts, uh, at Douglas and Highland. two roundabouts, uh, at Douglas and Highland. two roundabouts, uh, at Douglas and Highland. two roundabouts, uh, at Douglas and Highland. So it is on the north side of Skinner. So it is on the north side of Skinner. So it is on the north side of Skinner. So it is on the north side of Skinner. So it is on the north side of Skinner. It's the upper portion of the CRA, the northern portion of the CRA. It's the upper portion of the CRA, the northern portion of the CRA. It's the upper portion of the CRA, the northern portion of the CRA. It's the upper portion of the CRA, the northern portion of the CRA. It's the upper portion of the CRA, the northern portion of the CRA. Uh, and you can see the, uh, request is for design review approval for 444 Skinner Boulevard. Uh, and you can see the, uh, request is for design review approval for 444 Skinner Boulevard. Uh, and you can see the, uh, request is for design review approval for 444 Skinner Boulevard. Uh, and you can see the, uh, request is for design review approval for 444 Skinner Boulevard. Uh, and you can see the, uh, request is for design review approval for 444 Skinner Boulevard. Uh, the owner is Land Development LLC. Uh, the owner is Land Development LLC. Uh, the owner is Land Development LLC. Uh, the owner is Land Development LLC. Uh, the owner is Land Development LLC. Uh, applicant is Ashley Reinhold. Uh, applicant is Ashley Reinhold. Uh, applicant is Ashley Reinhold. Uh, applicant is Ashley Reinhold. Uh, applicant is Ashley Reinhold. Representative is Brian Angst, uh, who they're all represented behind me here. Representative is Brian Angst, uh, who they're all represented behind me here. Representative is Brian Angst, uh, who they're all represented behind me here. Representative is Brian Angst, uh, who they're all represented behind me here. Representative is Brian Angst, uh, who they're all represented behind me here. Street address is Skinner Boulevard. Street address is Skinner Boulevard. Street address is Skinner Boulevard. Street address is Skinner Boulevard. Street address is Skinner Boulevard. It's a 0.21 acre site. It's a 0.21 acre site. It's a 0.21 acre site. It's a 0.21 acre site. It's a 0.21 acre site. And I'll go through the land use and zoning categories in, in the next couple of slides. And I'll go through the land use and zoning categories in, in the next couple of slides. And I'll go through the land use and zoning categories in, in the next couple of slides. And I'll go through the land use and zoning categories in, in the next couple of slides. And I'll go through the land use and zoning categories in, in the next couple of slides. Uh, one thing I do want to point out before I leave this slide very quickly to the commission Uh, one thing I do want to point out before I leave this slide very quickly to the commission Uh, one thing I do want to point out before I leave this slide very quickly to the commission Uh, one thing I do want to point out before I leave this slide very quickly to the commission Uh, one thing I do want to point out before I leave this slide very quickly to the commission is that you'll notice that that property seems to be cut out of a larger property. is that you'll notice that that property seems to be cut out of a larger property. is that you'll notice that that property seems to be cut out of a larger property. is that you'll notice that that property seems to be cut out of a larger property. is that you'll notice that that property seems to be cut out of a larger property. And that is the case. And that is the case. And that is the case. And that is the case. And that is the case. And I'll, I'll hit on that in a little bit, but this is a piece that was carved out of And I'll, I'll hit on that in a little bit, but this is a piece that was carved out of And I'll, I'll hit on that in a little bit, but this is a piece that was carved out of And I'll, I'll hit on that in a little bit, but this is a piece that was carved out of And I'll, I'll hit on that in a little bit, but this is a piece that was carved out of the parent parcel back in May of 2024. the parent parcel back in May of 2024. the parent parcel back in May of 2024. the parent parcel back in May of 2024. the parent parcel back in May of 2024. A little bit on the project description. A little bit on the project description. A little bit on the project description. A little bit on the project description. A little bit on the project description. Uh, this is a rendering of the, of the site in question is a four story product, three stories Uh, this is a rendering of the, of the site in question is a four story product, three stories Uh, this is a rendering of the, of the site in question is a four story product, three stories Uh, this is a rendering of the, of the site in question is a four story product, three stories Uh, this is a rendering of the, of the site in question is a four story product, three stories over ground floor parking. over ground floor parking. over ground floor parking. over ground floor parking. over ground floor parking. Uh, it's multi-family residential product with five dwelling units proposed. Uh, it's multi-family residential product with five dwelling units proposed. Uh, it's multi-family residential product with five dwelling units proposed. Uh, it's multi-family residential product with five dwelling units proposed. Uh, it's multi-family residential product with five dwelling units proposed. Uh, if you look to the left of the screen, uh, there is the site plan, uh, as you can Uh, if you look to the left of the screen, uh, there is the site plan, uh, as you can Uh, if you look to the left of the screen, uh, there is the site plan, uh, as you can Uh, if you look to the left of the screen, uh, there is the site plan, uh, as you can Uh, if you look to the left of the screen, uh, there is the site plan, uh, as you can see, all entry is from, from Skinner Boulevard in and underneath the project into the apartments. see, all entry is from, from Skinner Boulevard in and underneath the project into the apartments. see, all entry is from, from Skinner Boulevard in and underneath the project into the apartments. see, all entry is from, from Skinner Boulevard in and underneath the project into the apartments. see, all entry is from, from Skinner Boulevard in and underneath the project into the apartments. Uh, and then the lower left-hand screen is just a street view of that particular parcel. Uh, and then the lower left-hand screen is just a street view of that particular parcel. Uh, and then the lower left-hand screen is just a street view of that particular parcel. Uh, and then the lower left-hand screen is just a street view of that particular parcel. Uh, and then the lower left-hand screen is just a street view of that particular parcel. From a land use perspective, uh, as is the case with all of our downtown core properties, From a land use perspective, uh, as is the case with all of our downtown core properties, From a land use perspective, uh, as is the case with all of our downtown core properties, From a land use perspective, uh, as is the case with all of our downtown core properties, From a land use perspective, uh, as is the case with all of our downtown core properties, it is, uh, underpinned by activity center land use. it is, uh, underpinned by activity center land use. it is, uh, underpinned by activity center land use. it is, uh, underpinned by activity center land use. it is, uh, underpinned by activity center land use. Activity center does permit up to 30 dwelling units per acre. Activity center does permit up to 30 dwelling units per acre. Activity center does permit up to 30 dwelling units per acre. Activity center does permit up to 30 dwelling units per acre. Activity center does permit up to 30 dwelling units per acre. Uh, table one does represent that, uh, accounting of that acreage. Uh, table one does represent that, uh, accounting of that acreage. Uh, table one does represent that, uh, accounting of that acreage. Uh, table one does represent that, uh, accounting of that acreage. Uh, table one does represent that, uh, accounting of that acreage. It is 30 dwelling units per acre times the 0.21 acres. It is 30 dwelling units per acre times the 0.21 acres. It is 30 dwelling units per acre times the 0.21 acres. It is 30 dwelling units per acre times the 0.21 acres. It is 30 dwelling units per acre times the 0.21 acres. It allows for six units in total and five are proposed. It allows for six units in total and five are proposed. It allows for six units in total and five are proposed. It allows for six units in total and five are proposed. It allows for six units in total and five are proposed. So the project is consistent with the land use that underpins, uh, this particular project. So the project is consistent with the land use that underpins, uh, this particular project. So the project is consistent with the land use that underpins, uh, this particular project. So the project is consistent with the land use that underpins, uh, this particular project. So the project is consistent with the land use that underpins, uh, this particular project. From a zoning perspective, um, the subject property again is located in the downtown core. From a zoning perspective, um, the subject property again is located in the downtown core. From a zoning perspective, um, the subject property again is located in the downtown core. From a zoning perspective, um, the subject property again is located in the downtown core. From a zoning perspective, um, the subject property again is located in the downtown core. Uh, it is within the CRA as mentioned, and as the commission knows, there are three distinct Uh, it is within the CRA as mentioned, and as the commission knows, there are three distinct Uh, it is within the CRA as mentioned, and as the commission knows, there are three distinct Uh, it is within the CRA as mentioned, and as the commission knows, there are three distinct Uh, it is within the CRA as mentioned, and as the commission knows, there are three distinct street types in the downtown to help perpetuate consistent height to width relationships. street types in the downtown to help perpetuate consistent height to width relationships. street types in the downtown to help perpetuate consistent height to width relationships. street types in the downtown to help perpetuate consistent height to width relationships. street types in the downtown to help perpetuate consistent height to width relationships. Uh, this is a type C street. Uh, this is a type C street. Uh, this is a type C street. Uh, this is a type C street. Uh, this is a type C street. So what's interesting about a type C street, as the commission knows, the applicant has the So what's interesting about a type C street, as the commission knows, the applicant has the So what's interesting about a type C street, as the commission knows, the applicant has the So what's interesting about a type C street, as the commission knows, the applicant has the So what's interesting about a type C street, as the commission knows, the applicant has the ability within the code to request something beyond, uh, the 36 feet that is normally, that ability within the code to request something beyond, uh, the 36 feet that is normally, that ability within the code to request something beyond, uh, the 36 feet that is normally, that ability within the code to request something beyond, uh, the 36 feet that is normally, that ability within the code to request something beyond, uh, the 36 feet that is normally, that is normally applied to this particular category. is normally applied to this particular category. is normally applied to this particular category. is normally applied to this particular category. is normally applied to this particular category. And in this case, the applicant is doing just that they are asking for, uh, 42 feet versus And in this case, the applicant is doing just that they are asking for, uh, 42 feet versus And in this case, the applicant is doing just that they are asking for, uh, 42 feet versus And in this case, the applicant is doing just that they are asking for, uh, 42 feet versus And in this case, the applicant is doing just that they are asking for, uh, 42 feet versus the 36 feet, uh, a max is a 46, what can be requested. the 36 feet, uh, a max is a 46, what can be requested. the 36 feet, uh, a max is a 46, what can be requested. the 36 feet, uh, a max is a 46, what can be requested. the 36 feet, uh, a max is a 46, what can be requested. Uh, all for, um, multiple story buildings, a 10 foot minimum step back behind the primary Uh, all for, um, multiple story buildings, a 10 foot minimum step back behind the primary Uh, all for, um, multiple story buildings, a 10 foot minimum step back behind the primary Uh, all for, um, multiple story buildings, a 10 foot minimum step back behind the primary Uh, all for, um, multiple story buildings, a 10 foot minimum step back behind the primary facade of the building is required. facade of the building is required. facade of the building is required. facade of the building is required. facade of the building is required. Um, the city commission is also authorized within land development code to waive that provision. Um, the city commission is also authorized within land development code to waive that provision. Um, the city commission is also authorized within land development code to waive that provision. Um, the city commission is also authorized within land development code to waive that provision. Um, the city commission is also authorized within land development code to waive that provision. And the applicant is also requesting that that provision be waived. And the applicant is also requesting that that provision be waived. And the applicant is also requesting that that provision be waived. And the applicant is also requesting that that provision be waived. And the applicant is also requesting that that provision be waived. Uh, the table to the right obviously shows all of those, uh, dimensional requirements Uh, the table to the right obviously shows all of those, uh, dimensional requirements Uh, the table to the right obviously shows all of those, uh, dimensional requirements Uh, the table to the right obviously shows all of those, uh, dimensional requirements Uh, the table to the right obviously shows all of those, uh, dimensional requirements in the downtown core. in the downtown core. in the downtown core. in the downtown core. in the downtown core. And they do meet each of those requirements as indicated by the table. And they do meet each of those requirements as indicated by the table. And they do meet each of those requirements as indicated by the table. And they do meet each of those requirements as indicated by the table. And they do meet each of those requirements as indicated by the table. Uh, a little, uh, and as you know, from the, as the commission knows, and we do this for all Uh, a little, uh, and as you know, from the, as the commission knows, and we do this for all Uh, a little, uh, and as you know, from the, as the commission knows, and we do this for all Uh, a little, uh, and as you know, from the, as the commission knows, and we do this for all Uh, a little, uh, and as you know, from the, as the commission knows, and we do this for all design reviews and not just design reviews, we do this for all development projects that design reviews and not just design reviews, we do this for all development projects that design reviews and not just design reviews, we do this for all development projects that design reviews and not just design reviews, we do this for all development projects that design reviews and not just design reviews, we do this for all development projects that come into our office, but we analyze those requirements against our compatibility provisions. come into our office, but we analyze those requirements against our compatibility provisions. come into our office, but we analyze those requirements against our compatibility provisions. come into our office, but we analyze those requirements against our compatibility provisions. come into our office, but we analyze those requirements against our compatibility provisions. Um, I want to take a minute, uh, to remind the commission of how the compatibility Um, I want to take a minute, uh, to remind the commission of how the compatibility Um, I want to take a minute, uh, to remind the commission of how the compatibility Um, I want to take a minute, uh, to remind the commission of how the compatibility Um, I want to take a minute, uh, to remind the commission of how the compatibility is analyzed as we work through development review projects and development projects just in general. is analyzed as we work through development review projects and development projects just in general. is analyzed as we work through development review projects and development projects just in general. is analyzed as we work through development review projects and development projects just in general. is analyzed as we work through development review projects and development projects just in general. In this slide, there is a screenshot capture of objective 2.9 of the city comprehensive plan. In this slide, there is a screenshot capture of objective 2.9 of the city comprehensive plan. In this slide, there is a screenshot capture of objective 2.9 of the city comprehensive plan. In this slide, there is a screenshot capture of objective 2.9 of the city comprehensive plan. In this slide, there is a screenshot capture of objective 2.9 of the city comprehensive plan. And I just very quickly want to read some of that highlighted language into the record. And I just very quickly want to read some of that highlighted language into the record. And I just very quickly want to read some of that highlighted language into the record. And I just very quickly want to read some of that highlighted language into the record. And I just very quickly want to read some of that highlighted language into the record. Um, when we are looking at proposals for development, we are required by objective 2.9 to Um, when we are looking at proposals for development, we are required by objective 2.9 to Um, when we are looking at proposals for development, we are required by objective 2.9 to Um, when we are looking at proposals for development, we are required by objective 2.9 to Um, when we are looking at proposals for development, we are required by objective 2.9 to evaluate development and redevelopment for compatibility with the surrounding land and its uses. evaluate development and redevelopment for compatibility with the surrounding land and its uses. evaluate development and redevelopment for compatibility with the surrounding land and its uses. evaluate development and redevelopment for compatibility with the surrounding land and its uses. evaluate development and redevelopment for compatibility with the surrounding land and its uses. Development and redevelopment deemed not compatible will be denied. Development and redevelopment deemed not compatible will be denied. Development and redevelopment deemed not compatible will be denied. Development and redevelopment deemed not compatible will be denied. Development and redevelopment deemed not compatible will be denied. That is a will. That is a will. That is a will. That is a will. That is a will. So that means if we deem it not compatible, the project should be denied. So that means if we deem it not compatible, the project should be denied. So that means if we deem it not compatible, the project should be denied. So that means if we deem it not compatible, the project should be denied. So that means if we deem it not compatible, the project should be denied. And going down, there are several subpart, uh, sub policies underneath that section. And going down, there are several subpart, uh, sub policies underneath that section. And going down, there are several subpart, uh, sub policies underneath that section. And going down, there are several subpart, uh, sub policies underneath that section. And going down, there are several subpart, uh, sub policies underneath that section. And I just want to draw your attention to the first one, which really talks about height and mass. And I just want to draw your attention to the first one, which really talks about height and mass. And I just want to draw your attention to the first one, which really talks about height and mass. And I just want to draw your attention to the first one, which really talks about height and mass. And I just want to draw your attention to the first one, which really talks about height and mass. And in particular, that, that paragraph that's highlighted land development code provisions And in particular, that, that paragraph that's highlighted land development code provisions And in particular, that, that paragraph that's highlighted land development code provisions And in particular, that, that paragraph that's highlighted land development code provisions And in particular, that, that paragraph that's highlighted land development code provisions concerning heights in individual district areas establish only the maximum allowed and the actual concerning heights in individual district areas establish only the maximum allowed and the actual concerning heights in individual district areas establish only the maximum allowed and the actual concerning heights in individual district areas establish only the maximum allowed and the actual concerning heights in individual district areas establish only the maximum allowed and the actual permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis during design review permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis during design review permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis during design review permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis during design review permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis during design review and other development approvals. and other development approvals. and other development approvals. and other development approvals. and other development approvals. And that's where I'm saying it's not just apply to design review, but it's any other development And that's where I'm saying it's not just apply to design review, but it's any other development And that's where I'm saying it's not just apply to design review, but it's any other development And that's where I'm saying it's not just apply to design review, but it's any other development And that's where I'm saying it's not just apply to design review, but it's any other development approval that we see and that we review on a day-to-day basis. approval that we see and that we review on a day-to-day basis. approval that we see and that we review on a day-to-day basis. approval that we see and that we review on a day-to-day basis. approval that we see and that we review on a day-to-day basis. Approved heights may be substantially less based on that compatibility analysis. Approved heights may be substantially less based on that compatibility analysis. Approved heights may be substantially less based on that compatibility analysis. Approved heights may be substantially less based on that compatibility analysis. Approved heights may be substantially less based on that compatibility analysis. So as part of design review, this provision carries as much or even more weight than any So as part of design review, this provision carries as much or even more weight than any So as part of design review, this provision carries as much or even more weight than any So as part of design review, this provision carries as much or even more weight than any So as part of design review, this provision carries as much or even more weight than any other design standard and has been consistently and historically applied to all development review other design standard and has been consistently and historically applied to all development review other design standard and has been consistently and historically applied to all development review other design standard and has been consistently and historically applied to all development review other design standard and has been consistently and historically applied to all development review requests that come through our office and that ultimately go on to the commission for consideration. requests that come through our office and that ultimately go on to the commission for consideration. requests that come through our office and that ultimately go on to the commission for consideration. requests that come through our office and that ultimately go on to the commission for consideration. requests that come through our office and that ultimately go on to the commission for consideration. This is a longstanding provision, uh, dating back to objective P 1997. This is a longstanding provision, uh, dating back to objective P 1997. This is a longstanding provision, uh, dating back to objective P 1997. This is a longstanding provision, uh, dating back to objective P 1997. This is a longstanding provision, uh, dating back to objective P 1997. So this standard has been in our comprehensive plan for a long time. So this standard has been in our comprehensive plan for a long time. So this standard has been in our comprehensive plan for a long time. So this standard has been in our comprehensive plan for a long time. So this standard has been in our comprehensive plan for a long time. Objective P was then evolved into objective O, if you recall, which predated this objective 2.9. Objective P was then evolved into objective O, if you recall, which predated this objective 2.9. Objective P was then evolved into objective O, if you recall, which predated this objective 2.9. Objective P was then evolved into objective O, if you recall, which predated this objective 2.9. Objective P was then evolved into objective O, if you recall, which predated this objective 2.9. So this provision has been around for a long time. So this provision has been around for a long time. So this provision has been around for a long time. So this provision has been around for a long time. So this provision has been around for a long time. Now it's evolved over time. Now it's evolved over time. Now it's evolved over time. Now it's evolved over time. Now it's evolved over time. It wasn't as strong as it is now, but it's been there and it's been consistently used It wasn't as strong as it is now, but it's been there and it's been consistently used It wasn't as strong as it is now, but it's been there and it's been consistently used It wasn't as strong as it is now, but it's been there and it's been consistently used It wasn't as strong as it is now, but it's been there and it's been consistently used as we evaluate development projects in the city. as we evaluate development projects in the city. as we evaluate development projects in the city. as we evaluate development projects in the city. as we evaluate development projects in the city. More than any other provision, this is the one to me that drives the physical built environment More than any other provision, this is the one to me that drives the physical built environment More than any other provision, this is the one to me that drives the physical built environment More than any other provision, this is the one to me that drives the physical built environment More than any other provision, this is the one to me that drives the physical built environment and what has made Dunedin special by comparison. and what has made Dunedin special by comparison. and what has made Dunedin special by comparison. and what has made Dunedin special by comparison. and what has made Dunedin special by comparison. And I would argue that Dunedin's charm is largely built on this provision And I would argue that Dunedin's charm is largely built on this provision And I would argue that Dunedin's charm is largely built on this provision And I would argue that Dunedin's charm is largely built on this provision And I would argue that Dunedin's charm is largely built on this provision and creating this physical environment through that analysis. and creating this physical environment through that analysis. and creating this physical environment through that analysis. and creating this physical environment through that analysis. and creating this physical environment through that analysis. So I just wanted to kind of make those statements as I work through the compatibility piece of this So I just wanted to kind of make those statements as I work through the compatibility piece of this So I just wanted to kind of make those statements as I work through the compatibility piece of this So I just wanted to kind of make those statements as I work through the compatibility piece of this So I just wanted to kind of make those statements as I work through the compatibility piece of this so that everybody understands how we apply that particular piece of the, of the, uh, of the, so that everybody understands how we apply that particular piece of the, of the, uh, of the, so that everybody understands how we apply that particular piece of the, of the, uh, of the, so that everybody understands how we apply that particular piece of the, of the, uh, of the, so that everybody understands how we apply that particular piece of the, of the, uh, of the, of the master plan and all provisions related to the, to development. of the master plan and all provisions related to the, to development. of the master plan and all provisions related to the, to development. of the master plan and all provisions related to the, to development. of the master plan and all provisions related to the, to development. This is, um, as the commission knows with every design review, we do a staff compatibility analysis. This is, um, as the commission knows with every design review, we do a staff compatibility analysis. This is, um, as the commission knows with every design review, we do a staff compatibility analysis. This is, um, as the commission knows with every design review, we do a staff compatibility analysis. This is, um, as the commission knows with every design review, we do a staff compatibility analysis. This is, this is that analysis. This is, this is that analysis. This is, this is that analysis. This is, this is that analysis. This is, this is that analysis. It analyzes all properties within typically 500 feet of the subject property area. It analyzes all properties within typically 500 feet of the subject property area. It analyzes all properties within typically 500 feet of the subject property area. It analyzes all properties within typically 500 feet of the subject property area. It analyzes all properties within typically 500 feet of the subject property area. And I, you know, another piece that I want to emphasize is as we're looking through that compatibility And I, you know, another piece that I want to emphasize is as we're looking through that compatibility And I, you know, another piece that I want to emphasize is as we're looking through that compatibility And I, you know, another piece that I want to emphasize is as we're looking through that compatibility And I, you know, another piece that I want to emphasize is as we're looking through that compatibility piece, context is a huge piece of that evaluation. piece, context is a huge piece of that evaluation. piece, context is a huge piece of that evaluation. piece, context is a huge piece of that evaluation. piece, context is a huge piece of that evaluation. You know, we are looking at nearby development types. You know, we are looking at nearby development types. You know, we are looking at nearby development types. You know, we are looking at nearby development types. You know, we are looking at nearby development types. We are looking at future plans that may wish to promote something different. We are looking at future plans that may wish to promote something different. We are looking at future plans that may wish to promote something different. We are looking at future plans that may wish to promote something different. We are looking at future plans that may wish to promote something different. We are looking at street types. We are looking at street types. We are looking at street types. We are looking at street types. We are looking at street types. We're looking at transitional zoning. We're looking at transitional zoning. We're looking at transitional zoning. We're looking at transitional zoning. We're looking at transitional zoning. So we're looking at all of those things in the context of where this project is located So we're looking at all of those things in the context of where this project is located So we're looking at all of those things in the context of where this project is located So we're looking at all of those things in the context of where this project is located So we're looking at all of those things in the context of where this project is located and how it's going to fit with that overall development pattern in that particular area. and how it's going to fit with that overall development pattern in that particular area. and how it's going to fit with that overall development pattern in that particular area. and how it's going to fit with that overall development pattern in that particular area. and how it's going to fit with that overall development pattern in that particular area. You can see some of the bullet points to the right. You can see some of the bullet points to the right. You can see some of the bullet points to the right. You can see some of the bullet points to the right. You can see some of the bullet points to the right. So based on that analysis that staff has prepared, So based on that analysis that staff has prepared, So based on that analysis that staff has prepared, So based on that analysis that staff has prepared, So based on that analysis that staff has prepared, there are 25 properties immediately surrounding the subject property. there are 25 properties immediately surrounding the subject property. there are 25 properties immediately surrounding the subject property. there are 25 properties immediately surrounding the subject property. there are 25 properties immediately surrounding the subject property. One existing structure exceeds two stories in that analysis area. One existing structure exceeds two stories in that analysis area. One existing structure exceeds two stories in that analysis area. One existing structure exceeds two stories in that analysis area. One existing structure exceeds two stories in that analysis area. The average number of stories. The average number of stories. The average number of stories. The average number of stories. The average number of stories. So if you take those 25 and do the median or do the average, So if you take those 25 and do the median or do the average, So if you take those 25 and do the median or do the average, So if you take those 25 and do the median or do the average, So if you take those 25 and do the median or do the average, average is 1.4 stories with a building height of 17.96 feet. average is 1.4 stories with a building height of 17.96 feet. average is 1.4 stories with a building height of 17.96 feet. average is 1.4 stories with a building height of 17.96 feet. average is 1.4 stories with a building height of 17.96 feet. And that includes the three-story product that's immediately behind the property. And that includes the three-story product that's immediately behind the property. And that includes the three-story product that's immediately behind the property. And that includes the three-story product that's immediately behind the property. And that includes the three-story product that's immediately behind the property. The applicant is requesting, in this case, four stories and 42 feet. The applicant is requesting, in this case, four stories and 42 feet. The applicant is requesting, in this case, four stories and 42 feet. The applicant is requesting, in this case, four stories and 42 feet. The applicant is requesting, in this case, four stories and 42 feet. And I will say, you know, we've kind of advised the applicant through this entire process And I will say, you know, we've kind of advised the applicant through this entire process And I will say, you know, we've kind of advised the applicant through this entire process And I will say, you know, we've kind of advised the applicant through this entire process And I will say, you know, we've kind of advised the applicant through this entire process that we would certainly support a one- to two-story product and possibly a three-story product that we would certainly support a one- to two-story product and possibly a three-story product that we would certainly support a one- to two-story product and possibly a three-story product that we would certainly support a one- to two-story product and possibly a three-story product that we would certainly support a one- to two-story product and possibly a three-story product with a compelling compatibility analysis. with a compelling compatibility analysis. with a compelling compatibility analysis. with a compelling compatibility analysis. with a compelling compatibility analysis. But in no instance did we assure the applicant that we were going to support a four-story product. But in no instance did we assure the applicant that we were going to support a four-story product. But in no instance did we assure the applicant that we were going to support a four-story product. But in no instance did we assure the applicant that we were going to support a four-story product. But in no instance did we assure the applicant that we were going to support a four-story product. Staff also related, again, so those are the bullet points that kind of feed into the analysis. Staff also related, again, so those are the bullet points that kind of feed into the analysis. Staff also related, again, so those are the bullet points that kind of feed into the analysis. Staff also related, again, so those are the bullet points that kind of feed into the analysis. Staff also related, again, so those are the bullet points that kind of feed into the analysis. Continuing on the compatibility piece of it, just a few more distinctions. Continuing on the compatibility piece of it, just a few more distinctions. Continuing on the compatibility piece of it, just a few more distinctions. Continuing on the compatibility piece of it, just a few more distinctions. Continuing on the compatibility piece of it, just a few more distinctions. And this kind of gets again to the context that I referenced. And this kind of gets again to the context that I referenced. And this kind of gets again to the context that I referenced. And this kind of gets again to the context that I referenced. And this kind of gets again to the context that I referenced. The surrounding area is predominantly built out and includes a mix of uses ranging from low to medium The surrounding area is predominantly built out and includes a mix of uses ranging from low to medium The surrounding area is predominantly built out and includes a mix of uses ranging from low to medium The surrounding area is predominantly built out and includes a mix of uses ranging from low to medium The surrounding area is predominantly built out and includes a mix of uses ranging from low to medium density single-family residential and multi-family residential to commercial and retail. density single-family residential and multi-family residential to commercial and retail. density single-family residential and multi-family residential to commercial and retail. density single-family residential and multi-family residential to commercial and retail. density single-family residential and multi-family residential to commercial and retail. One other thing I want to point out is immediately behind this piece, since this is the northern portion One other thing I want to point out is immediately behind this piece, since this is the northern portion One other thing I want to point out is immediately behind this piece, since this is the northern portion One other thing I want to point out is immediately behind this piece, since this is the northern portion One other thing I want to point out is immediately behind this piece, since this is the northern portion of the downtown core and the CRA, there is a transitional zoning district of downtown residential, of the downtown core and the CRA, there is a transitional zoning district of downtown residential, of the downtown core and the CRA, there is a transitional zoning district of downtown residential, of the downtown core and the CRA, there is a transitional zoning district of downtown residential, of the downtown core and the CRA, there is a transitional zoning district of downtown residential, which then transitions into our residential zoning categories of R60 immediately behind. which then transitions into our residential zoning categories of R60 immediately behind. which then transitions into our residential zoning categories of R60 immediately behind. which then transitions into our residential zoning categories of R60 immediately behind. which then transitions into our residential zoning categories of R60 immediately behind. And that's those areas in and around Palmetto Drive behind the subject property. And that's those areas in and around Palmetto Drive behind the subject property. And that's those areas in and around Palmetto Drive behind the subject property. And that's those areas in and around Palmetto Drive behind the subject property. And that's those areas in and around Palmetto Drive behind the subject property. I would point out that the urban context has recently been modified. I would point out that the urban context has recently been modified. I would point out that the urban context has recently been modified. I would point out that the urban context has recently been modified. I would point out that the urban context has recently been modified. I think you just heard a pretty good discussion on the Skinner Boulevard complete street project. I think you just heard a pretty good discussion on the Skinner Boulevard complete street project. I think you just heard a pretty good discussion on the Skinner Boulevard complete street project. I think you just heard a pretty good discussion on the Skinner Boulevard complete street project. I think you just heard a pretty good discussion on the Skinner Boulevard complete street project. The completion of that complete street project, you know, we certainly know that there's a difference The completion of that complete street project, you know, we certainly know that there's a difference The completion of that complete street project, you know, we certainly know that there's a difference The completion of that complete street project, you know, we certainly know that there's a difference The completion of that complete street project, you know, we certainly know that there's a difference in the public realm out there as a result of that project. in the public realm out there as a result of that project. in the public realm out there as a result of that project. in the public realm out there as a result of that project. in the public realm out there as a result of that project. It has created a consistent framework for the modest mass and the height of the structures It has created a consistent framework for the modest mass and the height of the structures It has created a consistent framework for the modest mass and the height of the structures It has created a consistent framework for the modest mass and the height of the structures It has created a consistent framework for the modest mass and the height of the structures that are fronting the multimodal corridor. So a four-story product and in staff's opinion that are fronting the multimodal corridor. So a four-story product and in staff's opinion that are fronting the multimodal corridor. So a four-story product and in staff's opinion that are fronting the multimodal corridor. So a four-story product and in staff's opinion that are fronting the multimodal corridor. So a four-story product and in staff's opinion would be disruptive to the consistency of that public realm. would be disruptive to the consistency of that public realm. would be disruptive to the consistency of that public realm. would be disruptive to the consistency of that public realm. would be disruptive to the consistency of that public realm. There are no additional planning efforts or conceptual development programs for future There are no additional planning efforts or conceptual development programs for future There are no additional planning efforts or conceptual development programs for future There are no additional planning efforts or conceptual development programs for future There are no additional planning efforts or conceptual development programs for future development to take a greater form than already existing. And I know Bob will speak a little bit development to take a greater form than already existing. And I know Bob will speak a little bit development to take a greater form than already existing. And I know Bob will speak a little bit development to take a greater form than already existing. And I know Bob will speak a little bit development to take a greater form than already existing. And I know Bob will speak a little bit as to with respect to the CRA and the master plan and the vision there for whatever that development might entail. as to with respect to the CRA and the master plan and the vision there for whatever that development might entail. as to with respect to the CRA and the master plan and the vision there for whatever that development might entail. as to with respect to the CRA and the master plan and the vision there for whatever that development might entail. as to with respect to the CRA and the master plan and the vision there for whatever that development might entail. There are no four-story buildings that exist or are otherwise planned in the area immediately There are no four-story buildings that exist or are otherwise planned in the area immediately There are no four-story buildings that exist or are otherwise planned in the area immediately There are no four-story buildings that exist or are otherwise planned in the area immediately There are no four-story buildings that exist or are otherwise planned in the area immediately surrounding the project site and the more recent development in the area is limited to two stories surrounding the project site and the more recent development in the area is limited to two stories surrounding the project site and the more recent development in the area is limited to two stories surrounding the project site and the more recent development in the area is limited to two stories surrounding the project site and the more recent development in the area is limited to two stories or less. So if you go back to that slide that the compatibility slide you'll see that the town or less. So if you go back to that slide that the compatibility slide you'll see that the town or less. So if you go back to that slide that the compatibility slide you'll see that the town or less. So if you go back to that slide that the compatibility slide you'll see that the town or less. So if you go back to that slide that the compatibility slide you'll see that the town homes at Highland Crossing and Wellington Place are both two-story products immediately across the street. homes at Highland Crossing and Wellington Place are both two-story products immediately across the street. homes at Highland Crossing and Wellington Place are both two-story products immediately across the street. homes at Highland Crossing and Wellington Place are both two-story products immediately across the street. homes at Highland Crossing and Wellington Place are both two-story products immediately across the street. This is more of just a kind of a historical aspect to the to the property as well. So I mentioned This is more of just a kind of a historical aspect to the to the property as well. So I mentioned This is more of just a kind of a historical aspect to the to the property as well. So I mentioned This is more of just a kind of a historical aspect to the to the property as well. So I mentioned This is more of just a kind of a historical aspect to the to the property as well. So I mentioned that the property was carved out of a larger parent parcel. So that three structure parcel immediately to the that the property was carved out of a larger parent parcel. So that three structure parcel immediately to the that the property was carved out of a larger parent parcel. So that three structure parcel immediately to the that the property was carved out of a larger parent parcel. So that three structure parcel immediately to the that the property was carved out of a larger parent parcel. So that three structure parcel immediately to the north of this particular property was on the same parcel at one time and was split in May of 2024 and north of this particular property was on the same parcel at one time and was split in May of 2024 and north of this particular property was on the same parcel at one time and was split in May of 2024 and north of this particular property was on the same parcel at one time and was split in May of 2024 and north of this particular property was on the same parcel at one time and was split in May of 2024 and sold to the current applicant. There is a Vista condominium plat still on file and there was an sold to the current applicant. There is a Vista condominium plat still on file and there was an sold to the current applicant. There is a Vista condominium plat still on file and there was an sold to the current applicant. There is a Vista condominium plat still on file and there was an sold to the current applicant. There is a Vista condominium plat still on file and there was an original building permit for construction and that you can kind of see on the left-hand side that showed original building permit for construction and that you can kind of see on the left-hand side that showed original building permit for construction and that you can kind of see on the left-hand side that showed original building permit for construction and that you can kind of see on the left-hand side that showed original building permit for construction and that you can kind of see on the left-hand side that showed the possibility of a future building very consistent in kind of scale and mass to that existing three-story the possibility of a future building very consistent in kind of scale and mass to that existing three-story the possibility of a future building very consistent in kind of scale and mass to that existing three-story the possibility of a future building very consistent in kind of scale and mass to that existing three-story the possibility of a future building very consistent in kind of scale and mass to that existing three-story building. And in staff's opinion that would be a more compatible proposal but of course that's just building. And in staff's opinion that would be a more compatible proposal but of course that's just building. And in staff's opinion that would be a more compatible proposal but of course that's just building. And in staff's opinion that would be a more compatible proposal but of course that's just building. And in staff's opinion that would be a more compatible proposal but of course that's just more from a historical perspective but wanted to show that there was a thought at one point of continuing more from a historical perspective but wanted to show that there was a thought at one point of continuing more from a historical perspective but wanted to show that there was a thought at one point of continuing more from a historical perspective but wanted to show that there was a thought at one point of continuing more from a historical perspective but wanted to show that there was a thought at one point of continuing that existing mass and scale forward towards the street in the past. And just to very quickly kind of that existing mass and scale forward towards the street in the past. And just to very quickly kind of that existing mass and scale forward towards the street in the past. And just to very quickly kind of that existing mass and scale forward towards the street in the past. And just to very quickly kind of that existing mass and scale forward towards the street in the past. And just to very quickly kind of visually show you what that might look like under that plat if constructed at the time it would look visually show you what that might look like under that plat if constructed at the time it would look visually show you what that might look like under that plat if constructed at the time it would look visually show you what that might look like under that plat if constructed at the time it would look visually show you what that might look like under that plat if constructed at the time it would look something like that and what we have today is more like that. So it just kind of gives you an idea something like that and what we have today is more like that. So it just kind of gives you an idea something like that and what we have today is more like that. So it just kind of gives you an idea something like that and what we have today is more like that. So it just kind of gives you an idea something like that and what we have today is more like that. So it just kind of gives you an idea of the mass that is created by a little bit of a larger structure. And the other thing I would point of the mass that is created by a little bit of a larger structure. And the other thing I would point of the mass that is created by a little bit of a larger structure. And the other thing I would point of the mass that is created by a little bit of a larger structure. And the other thing I would point of the mass that is created by a little bit of a larger structure. And the other thing I would point out is going back to deducted 2.9 one of the pieces is air light and ventilation and certainly by creating out is going back to deducted 2.9 one of the pieces is air light and ventilation and certainly by creating out is going back to deducted 2.9 one of the pieces is air light and ventilation and certainly by creating out is going back to deducted 2.9 one of the pieces is air light and ventilation and certainly by creating out is going back to deducted 2.9 one of the pieces is air light and ventilation and certainly by creating more mass you're decreasing those opportunity that opportunity for light and ventilation to adjacent more mass you're decreasing those opportunity that opportunity for light and ventilation to adjacent more mass you're decreasing those opportunity that opportunity for light and ventilation to adjacent more mass you're decreasing those opportunity that opportunity for light and ventilation to adjacent more mass you're decreasing those opportunity that opportunity for light and ventilation to adjacent property owners. One other piece this is the final piece to the compatibility piece. property owners. One other piece this is the final piece to the compatibility piece. property owners. One other piece this is the final piece to the compatibility piece. property owners. One other piece this is the final piece to the compatibility piece. property owners. One other piece this is the final piece to the compatibility piece. um we did engage forward pinellas uh the arc urban gis and we did an arc urban gis exercise and a quick um we did engage forward pinellas uh the arc urban gis and we did an arc urban gis exercise and a quick um we did engage forward pinellas uh the arc urban gis and we did an arc urban gis exercise and a quick um we did engage forward pinellas uh the arc urban gis and we did an arc urban gis exercise and a quick um we did engage forward pinellas uh the arc urban gis and we did an arc urban gis exercise and a quick shout out to forward pinellas they're they're incredible as this was the product of uh nicole i shout out to forward pinellas they're they're incredible as this was the product of uh nicole i shout out to forward pinellas they're they're incredible as this was the product of uh nicole i shout out to forward pinellas they're they're incredible as this was the product of uh nicole i shout out to forward pinellas they're they're incredible as this was the product of uh nicole i know nicole might be watching tonight from home she said she would uh but nicole galasso and rodney know nicole might be watching tonight from home she said she would uh but nicole galasso and rodney know nicole might be watching tonight from home she said she would uh but nicole galasso and rodney know nicole might be watching tonight from home she said she would uh but nicole galasso and rodney know nicole might be watching tonight from home she said she would uh but nicole galasso and rodney chapman have been incredible uh to work with and they they popped this out for us and this is chapman have been incredible uh to work with and they they popped this out for us and this is chapman have been incredible uh to work with and they they popped this out for us and this is chapman have been incredible uh to work with and they they popped this out for us and this is chapman have been incredible uh to work with and they they popped this out for us and this is this is this is a visual and it it it's under it's underlain by pinellas county property appraiser data this is this is a visual and it it it's under it's underlain by pinellas county property appraiser data this is this is a visual and it it it's under it's underlain by pinellas county property appraiser data this is this is a visual and it it it's under it's underlain by pinellas county property appraiser data this is this is a visual and it it it's under it's underlain by pinellas county property appraiser data which underpins the analysis and then what for pinellas does is they overlay the site plan to which underpins the analysis and then what for pinellas does is they overlay the site plan to which underpins the analysis and then what for pinellas does is they overlay the site plan to which underpins the analysis and then what for pinellas does is they overlay the site plan to which underpins the analysis and then what for pinellas does is they overlay the site plan to generate post development view perspectives so you have more than this in one of your exhibits d2 generate post development view perspectives so you have more than this in one of your exhibits d2 generate post development view perspectives so you have more than this in one of your exhibits d2 generate post development view perspectives so you have more than this in one of your exhibits d2 generate post development view perspectives so you have more than this in one of your exhibits d2 but i have just a couple to show you what this would look like visually so this is basically a view but i have just a couple to show you what this would look like visually so this is basically a view but i have just a couple to show you what this would look like visually so this is basically a view but i have just a couple to show you what this would look like visually so this is basically a view but i have just a couple to show you what this would look like visually so this is basically a view looking west west and you can see and all of those existing structures that you see on the ground looking west west and you can see and all of those existing structures that you see on the ground looking west west and you can see and all of those existing structures that you see on the ground looking west west and you can see and all of those existing structures that you see on the ground looking west west and you can see and all of those existing structures that you see on the ground there are structures that are generated by that data put together by by forward pinellas so you again there are structures that are generated by that data put together by by forward pinellas so you again there are structures that are generated by that data put together by by forward pinellas so you again there are structures that are generated by that data put together by by forward pinellas so you again there are structures that are generated by that data put together by by forward pinellas so you again there's a couple of runnings this is a this is a west view perspective and this is a perspective there's a couple of runnings this is a this is a west view perspective and this is a perspective there's a couple of runnings this is a this is a west view perspective and this is a perspective there's a couple of runnings this is a this is a west view perspective and this is a perspective there's a couple of runnings this is a this is a west view perspective and this is a perspective looking north and west of what that structure will look like post development so in addition to looking north and west of what that structure will look like post development so in addition to looking north and west of what that structure will look like post development so in addition to looking north and west of what that structure will look like post development so in addition to looking north and west of what that structure will look like post development so in addition to compatibility there are also other provisions in the code that are required for design review compatibility there are also other provisions in the code that are required for design review compatibility there are also other provisions in the code that are required for design review compatibility there are also other provisions in the code that are required for design review compatibility there are also other provisions in the code that are required for design review approval and those have been sat and those have been satisfied this is a chart showing the approval and those have been sat and those have been satisfied this is a chart showing the approval and those have been sat and those have been satisfied this is a chart showing the approval and those have been sat and those have been satisfied this is a chart showing the approval and those have been sat and those have been satisfied this is a chart showing the the the actual standard on the left hand side the requirement and then whether or not it conforms so the the actual standard on the left hand side the requirement and then whether or not it conforms so the the actual standard on the left hand side the requirement and then whether or not it conforms so the the actual standard on the left hand side the requirement and then whether or not it conforms so the the actual standard on the left hand side the requirement and then whether or not it conforms so i won't spend a lot of time on those staff has reviewed the application against these design review i won't spend a lot of time on those staff has reviewed the application against these design review i won't spend a lot of time on those staff has reviewed the application against these design review i won't spend a lot of time on those staff has reviewed the application against these design review i won't spend a lot of time on those staff has reviewed the application against these design review criteria in the following areas and have determined it have determined for it to be compliant this has criteria in the following areas and have determined it have determined for it to be compliant this has criteria in the following areas and have determined it have determined for it to be compliant this has criteria in the following areas and have determined it have determined for it to be compliant this has criteria in the following areas and have determined it have determined for it to be compliant this has had several committee actions the development review committee considered it in july of 2024 the had several committee actions the development review committee considered it in july of 2024 the had several committee actions the development review committee considered it in july of 2024 the had several committee actions the development review committee considered it in july of 2024 the had several committee actions the development review committee considered it in july of 2024 the architectural review committee considered the application in june 3 of 2025 and recommended architectural review committee considered the application in june 3 of 2025 and recommended architectural review committee considered the application in june 3 of 2025 and recommended architectural review committee considered the application in june 3 of 2025 and recommended architectural review committee considered the application in june 3 of 2025 and recommended the project to the lpa subject to four conditions those conditions have not been reviewed by the the project to the lpa subject to four conditions those conditions have not been reviewed by the the project to the lpa subject to four conditions those conditions have not been reviewed by the the project to the lpa subject to four conditions those conditions have not been reviewed by the the project to the lpa subject to four conditions those conditions have not been reviewed by the architecture review committee as the applicant pressed forward to the lpa but they but the arc did architecture review committee as the applicant pressed forward to the lpa but they but the arc did architecture review committee as the applicant pressed forward to the lpa but they but the arc did architecture review committee as the applicant pressed forward to the lpa but they but the arc did architecture review committee as the applicant pressed forward to the lpa but they but the arc did recommend that approval with those four conditions on january 14 the lpa considered the project and recommend that approval with those four conditions on january 14 the lpa considered the project and recommend that approval with those four conditions on january 14 the lpa considered the project and recommend that approval with those four conditions on january 14 the lpa considered the project and recommend that approval with those four conditions on january 14 the lpa considered the project and recommended 5-1 the application to the city commission subject to the condition that the stormwater recommended 5-1 the application to the city commission subject to the condition that the stormwater recommended 5-1 the application to the city commission subject to the condition that the stormwater recommended 5-1 the application to the city commission subject to the condition that the stormwater recommended 5-1 the application to the city commission subject to the condition that the stormwater system be expanded to the maximum extent possible finally from a staff recommend state recommendation system be expanded to the maximum extent possible finally from a staff recommend state recommendation system be expanded to the maximum extent possible finally from a staff recommend state recommendation system be expanded to the maximum extent possible finally from a staff recommend state recommendation system be expanded to the maximum extent possible finally from a staff recommend state recommendation standpoint the applicant is requesting the city commission approval of the four story with a standpoint the applicant is requesting the city commission approval of the four story with a standpoint the applicant is requesting the city commission approval of the four story with a standpoint the applicant is requesting the city commission approval of the four story with a standpoint the applicant is requesting the city commission approval of the four story with a maximum height of 42 feet in addition the applicant is requesting the city commission wave the 10-foot maximum height of 42 feet in addition the applicant is requesting the city commission wave the 10-foot maximum height of 42 feet in addition the applicant is requesting the city commission wave the 10-foot maximum height of 42 feet in addition the applicant is requesting the city commission wave the 10-foot maximum height of 42 feet in addition the applicant is requesting the city commission wave the 10-foot step back above the second story long skinner boulevard and approve the proposed design step back above the second story long skinner boulevard and approve the proposed design step back above the second story long skinner boulevard and approve the proposed design step back above the second story long skinner boulevard and approve the proposed design step back above the second story long skinner boulevard and approve the proposed design staff remains consistent in that the four story 42 foot high multi-family residential building staff remains consistent in that the four story 42 foot high multi-family residential building staff remains consistent in that the four story 42 foot high multi-family residential building staff remains consistent in that the four story 42 foot high multi-family residential building staff remains consistent in that the four story 42 foot high multi-family residential building that's proposed on the property together with potential development patterns of the very limited that's proposed on the property together with potential development patterns of the very limited that's proposed on the property together with potential development patterns of the very limited that's proposed on the property together with potential development patterns of the very limited that's proposed on the property together with potential development patterns of the very limited vacant lands in the area would be considered incompatible with the existing building heights densities vacant lands in the area would be considered incompatible with the existing building heights densities vacant lands in the area would be considered incompatible with the existing building heights densities vacant lands in the area would be considered incompatible with the existing building heights densities vacant lands in the area would be considered incompatible with the existing building heights densities and intensities and any anticipated future redevelopment in the surrounding areas and neighborhoods and intensities and any anticipated future redevelopment in the surrounding areas and neighborhoods and intensities and any anticipated future redevelopment in the surrounding areas and neighborhoods and intensities and any anticipated future redevelopment in the surrounding areas and neighborhoods and intensities and any anticipated future redevelopment in the surrounding areas and neighborhoods and therefore find it inconsistent with objective 2.9 of the future land use element of the comprehensive plan and therefore find it inconsistent with objective 2.9 of the future land use element of the comprehensive plan and therefore find it inconsistent with objective 2.9 of the future land use element of the comprehensive plan and therefore find it inconsistent with objective 2.9 of the future land use element of the comprehensive plan and therefore find it inconsistent with objective 2.9 of the future land use element of the comprehensive plan staff i'm sorry staff respect respectfully does not concur with the lpa recommendation and continues to staff i'm sorry staff respect respectfully does not concur with the lpa recommendation and continues to staff i'm sorry staff respect respectfully does not concur with the lpa recommendation and continues to staff i'm sorry staff respect respectfully does not concur with the lpa recommendation and continues to staff i'm sorry staff respect respectfully does not concur with the lpa recommendation and continues to find that application dr 2025-003 is inconsistent with the criteria for physical compatibility find that application dr 2025-003 is inconsistent with the criteria for physical compatibility find that application dr 2025-003 is inconsistent with the criteria for physical compatibility find that application dr 2025-003 is inconsistent with the criteria for physical compatibility find that application dr 2025-003 is inconsistent with the criteria for physical compatibility and accordingly staff is recommending to the city commission not approve the design review project and accordingly staff is recommending to the city commission not approve the design review project and accordingly staff is recommending to the city commission not approve the design review project and accordingly staff is recommending to the city commission not approve the design review project and accordingly staff is recommending to the city commission not approve the design review project and with that i'm going to just ask bob to provide a little bit of uh perspective from a cra and with that i'm going to just ask bob to provide a little bit of uh perspective from a cra and with that i'm going to just ask bob to provide a little bit of uh perspective from a cra and with that i'm going to just ask bob to provide a little bit of uh perspective from a cra and with that i'm going to just ask bob to provide a little bit of uh perspective from a cra
standpoint and then we're happy to answer any questions uh certainly uh thanks george just a little bit standpoint and then we're happy to answer any questions uh certainly uh thanks george just a little bit standpoint and then we're happy to answer any questions uh certainly uh thanks george just a little bit standpoint and then we're happy to answer any questions uh certainly uh thanks george just a little bit standpoint and then we're happy to answer any questions uh certainly uh thanks george just a little bit of context obviously uh we went with complete streets to reduce the right of way in there from four to two we of context obviously uh we went with complete streets to reduce the right of way in there from four to two we of context obviously uh we went with complete streets to reduce the right of way in there from four to two we of context obviously uh we went with complete streets to reduce the right of way in there from four to two we of context obviously uh we went with complete streets to reduce the right of way in there from four to two we were always looking for something that was more in keeping with urban context footprint of the one were always looking for something that was more in keeping with urban context footprint of the one were always looking for something that was more in keeping with urban context footprint of the one were always looking for something that was more in keeping with urban context footprint of the one were always looking for something that was more in keeping with urban context footprint of the one two and maybe a three-story with a type of mixed-use type product so as george has mentioned several times two and maybe a three-story with a type of mixed-use type product so as george has mentioned several times two and maybe a three-story with a type of mixed-use type product so as george has mentioned several times two and maybe a three-story with a type of mixed-use type product so as george has mentioned several times two and maybe a three-story with a type of mixed-use type product so as george has mentioned several times compatibility the surrounding area i think those slides by forward pinellas really show graphically compatibility the surrounding area i think those slides by forward pinellas really show graphically compatibility the surrounding area i think those slides by forward pinellas really show graphically compatibility the surrounding area i think those slides by forward pinellas really show graphically compatibility the surrounding area i think those slides by forward pinellas really show graphically that this is just not within uh the context that we would see especially with skinner boulevard coming down that this is just not within uh the context that we would see especially with skinner boulevard coming down that this is just not within uh the context that we would see especially with skinner boulevard coming down that this is just not within uh the context that we would see especially with skinner boulevard coming down that this is just not within uh the context that we would see especially with skinner boulevard coming down to two lanes so uh it's kind of incongruent in our opinion and uh we would see that over time some to two lanes so uh it's kind of incongruent in our opinion and uh we would see that over time some to two lanes so uh it's kind of incongruent in our opinion and uh we would see that over time some to two lanes so uh it's kind of incongruent in our opinion and uh we would see that over time some to two lanes so uh it's kind of incongruent in our opinion and uh we would see that over time some redevelopment will take place but not at this level of a four-story type type product so be happy to redevelopment will take place but not at this level of a four-story type type product so be happy to redevelopment will take place but not at this level of a four-story type type product so be happy to redevelopment will take place but not at this level of a four-story type type product so be happy to redevelopment will take place but not at this level of a four-story type type product so be happy to
answer any questions that you might have and uh okay questions for staff and remembering we'll have answer any questions that you might have and uh okay questions for staff and remembering we'll have answer any questions that you might have and uh okay questions for staff and remembering we'll have answer any questions that you might have and uh okay questions for staff and remembering we'll have answer any questions that you might have and uh okay questions for staff and remembering we'll have an applicant presentation too but questions for staff uh starting with vice mayor thank you mayor um an applicant presentation too but questions for staff uh starting with vice mayor thank you mayor um an applicant presentation too but questions for staff uh starting with vice mayor thank you mayor um an applicant presentation too but questions for staff uh starting with vice mayor thank you mayor um an applicant presentation too but questions for staff uh starting with vice mayor thank you mayor um
can you uh repeat the the arc recommendations that um basically have not been fulfilled as part of can you uh repeat the the arc recommendations that um basically have not been fulfilled as part of can you uh repeat the the arc recommendations that um basically have not been fulfilled as part of can you uh repeat the the arc recommendations that um basically have not been fulfilled as part of can you uh repeat the the arc recommendations that um basically have not been fulfilled as part of
passing it on to the lpa so i don't want to say not fulfilled i so what happened was the arc had passing it on to the lpa so i don't want to say not fulfilled i so what happened was the arc had passing it on to the lpa so i don't want to say not fulfilled i so what happened was the arc had passing it on to the lpa so i don't want to say not fulfilled i so what happened was the arc had passing it on to the lpa so i don't want to say not fulfilled i so what happened was the arc had recommended the project subject to four conditions the the four conditions were not addressed until we recommended the project subject to four conditions the the four conditions were not addressed until we recommended the project subject to four conditions the the four conditions were not addressed until we recommended the project subject to four conditions the the four conditions were not addressed until we recommended the project subject to four conditions the the four conditions were not addressed until we received information on those four conditions a day is either two days or one day prior to the lpa meeting received information on those four conditions a day is either two days or one day prior to the lpa meeting received information on those four conditions a day is either two days or one day prior to the lpa meeting received information on those four conditions a day is either two days or one day prior to the lpa meeting received information on those four conditions a day is either two days or one day prior to the lpa meeting so there was no opportunity to review no opportunity to send them back to the out to the arc for any further so there was no opportunity to review no opportunity to send them back to the out to the arc for any further so there was no opportunity to review no opportunity to send them back to the out to the arc for any further so there was no opportunity to review no opportunity to send them back to the out to the arc for any further so there was no opportunity to review no opportunity to send them back to the out to the arc for any further consideration and that still has not occurred so there there has not been a review of those four consideration and that still has not occurred so there there has not been a review of those four consideration and that still has not occurred so there there has not been a review of those four consideration and that still has not occurred so there there has not been a review of those four consideration and that still has not occurred so there there has not been a review of those four
conditions by the arc but yet that still got passed to the lpa and i got passed to the lpa conditions by the arc but yet that still got passed to the lpa and i got passed to the lpa conditions by the arc but yet that still got passed to the lpa and i got passed to the lpa conditions by the arc but yet that still got passed to the lpa and i got passed to the lpa conditions by the arc but yet that still got passed to the lpa and i got passed to the lpa
at the applicant's request to continue to move forward with through the process okay um and uh i hate at the applicant's request to continue to move forward with through the process okay um and uh i hate at the applicant's request to continue to move forward with through the process okay um and uh i hate at the applicant's request to continue to move forward with through the process okay um and uh i hate at the applicant's request to continue to move forward with through the process okay um and uh i hate
to do this to you but can you summarize the the compatibility i think objective 2.9 again just yeah to do this to you but can you summarize the the compatibility i think objective 2.9 again just yeah to do this to you but can you summarize the the compatibility i think objective 2.9 again just yeah to do this to you but can you summarize the the compatibility i think objective 2.9 again just yeah to do this to you but can you summarize the the compatibility i think objective 2.9 again just yeah
sure so you know just very quickly vice mayor so um you know again we have provision for a project sure so you know just very quickly vice mayor so um you know again we have provision for a project sure so you know just very quickly vice mayor so um you know again we have provision for a project sure so you know just very quickly vice mayor so um you know again we have provision for a project sure so you know just very quickly vice mayor so um you know again we have provision for a project to be consistent and garner approval it needs to meet all the criteria of both the land development to be consistent and garner approval it needs to meet all the criteria of both the land development to be consistent and garner approval it needs to meet all the criteria of both the land development to be consistent and garner approval it needs to meet all the criteria of both the land development to be consistent and garner approval it needs to meet all the criteria of both the land development code and it needs to be consistent with our master plan so this this is objective 2.9 we we apply this code and it needs to be consistent with our master plan so this this is objective 2.9 we we apply this code and it needs to be consistent with our master plan so this this is objective 2.9 we we apply this code and it needs to be consistent with our master plan so this this is objective 2.9 we we apply this code and it needs to be consistent with our master plan so this this is objective 2.9 we we apply this provision to every development review that we do in our office uh and i think that the germane points provision to every development review that we do in our office uh and i think that the germane points provision to every development review that we do in our office uh and i think that the germane points provision to every development review that we do in our office uh and i think that the germane points provision to every development review that we do in our office uh and i think that the germane points are really there are several pieces to it as you can see there are um pieces of it that that discuss the are really there are several pieces to it as you can see there are um pieces of it that that discuss the are really there are several pieces to it as you can see there are um pieces of it that that discuss the are really there are several pieces to it as you can see there are um pieces of it that that discuss the are really there are several pieces to it as you can see there are um pieces of it that that discuss the you know environmental aspect of things the economic aspect of things in this particular case we're more you know environmental aspect of things the economic aspect of things in this particular case we're more you know environmental aspect of things the economic aspect of things in this particular case we're more you know environmental aspect of things the economic aspect of things in this particular case we're more you know environmental aspect of things the economic aspect of things in this particular case we're more focused on 2.9.11 and what that says is with regards to height height of existing structures focused on 2.9.11 and what that says is with regards to height height of existing structures focused on 2.9.11 and what that says is with regards to height height of existing structures focused on 2.9.11 and what that says is with regards to height height of existing structures focused on 2.9.11 and what that says is with regards to height height of existing structures height compatibility will take into account the impacts on abutting property as to light air and height compatibility will take into account the impacts on abutting property as to light air and height compatibility will take into account the impacts on abutting property as to light air and height compatibility will take into account the impacts on abutting property as to light air and height compatibility will take into account the impacts on abutting property as to light air and view and other possible negative effects on abutting property from from the proposed project land view and other possible negative effects on abutting property from from the proposed project land view and other possible negative effects on abutting property from from the proposed project land view and other possible negative effects on abutting property from from the proposed project land view and other possible negative effects on abutting property from from the proposed project land development code provisions concerning height so it's going back to the land development code those development code provisions concerning height so it's going back to the land development code those development code provisions concerning height so it's going back to the land development code those development code provisions concerning height so it's going back to the land development code those development code provisions concerning height so it's going back to the land development code those provisions concerning height in individual districts or areas establish only the maximum height allowed provisions concerning height in individual districts or areas establish only the maximum height allowed provisions concerning height in individual districts or areas establish only the maximum height allowed provisions concerning height in individual districts or areas establish only the maximum height allowed provisions concerning height in individual districts or areas establish only the maximum height allowed and the actual permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis which is and the actual permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis which is and the actual permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis which is and the actual permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis which is and the actual permissible height is a decision to be determined by a compatibility analysis which is what we're we're working through here with you and during the design review or other development approvals what we're we're working through here with you and during the design review or other development approvals what we're we're working through here with you and during the design review or other development approvals what we're we're working through here with you and during the design review or other development approvals what we're we're working through here with you and during the design review or other development approvals approved heights may be substantially less based on the compatibility analysis and i think you've seen approved heights may be substantially less based on the compatibility analysis and i think you've seen approved heights may be substantially less based on the compatibility analysis and i think you've seen approved heights may be substantially less based on the compatibility analysis and i think you've seen approved heights may be substantially less based on the compatibility analysis and i think you've seen that in almost every project we've brought to you there there are very few projects that you have that in almost every project we've brought to you there there are very few projects that you have that in almost every project we've brought to you there there are very few projects that you have that in almost every project we've brought to you there there are very few projects that you have that in almost every project we've brought to you there there are very few projects that you have approved as a commission that have utilized the full dimensional standard abilities because they've been approved as a commission that have utilized the full dimensional standard abilities because they've been approved as a commission that have utilized the full dimensional standard abilities because they've been approved as a commission that have utilized the full dimensional standard abilities because they've been approved as a commission that have utilized the full dimensional standard abilities because they've been evaluated against compatibility uh you know case in point is um flats on maine that's an mf15 category that evaluated against compatibility uh you know case in point is um flats on maine that's an mf15 category that evaluated against compatibility uh you know case in point is um flats on maine that's an mf15 category that evaluated against compatibility uh you know case in point is um flats on maine that's an mf15 category that evaluated against compatibility uh you know case in point is um flats on maine that's an mf15 category that allows up to 50 feet in height they were we capped them at 36 feet because we were looking at those that allows up to 50 feet in height they were we capped them at 36 feet because we were looking at those that allows up to 50 feet in height they were we capped them at 36 feet because we were looking at those that allows up to 50 feet in height they were we capped them at 36 feet because we were looking at those that allows up to 50 feet in height they were we capped them at 36 feet because we were looking at those that transition into the adjacent neighborhoods uh you know there are other very few projects do we do that actually transition into the adjacent neighborhoods uh you know there are other very few projects do we do that actually transition into the adjacent neighborhoods uh you know there are other very few projects do we do that actually transition into the adjacent neighborhoods uh you know there are other very few projects do we do that actually transition into the adjacent neighborhoods uh you know there are other very few projects do we do that actually reach that full piece because we're applying this provision as aggressively as we apply any other reach that full piece because we're applying this provision as aggressively as we apply any other reach that full piece because we're applying this provision as aggressively as we apply any other reach that full piece because we're applying this provision as aggressively as we apply any other reach that full piece because we're applying this provision as aggressively as we apply any other provision uh to evaluate that project so that compatibility provision has been in there like i said for provision uh to evaluate that project so that compatibility provision has been in there like i said for provision uh to evaluate that project so that compatibility provision has been in there like i said for provision uh to evaluate that project so that compatibility provision has been in there like i said for provision uh to evaluate that project so that compatibility provision has been in there like i said for nearly 30 years at this point and and i i i truly believe that is what is creating the built environment nearly 30 years at this point and and i i i truly believe that is what is creating the built environment nearly 30 years at this point and and i i i truly believe that is what is creating the built environment nearly 30 years at this point and and i i i truly believe that is what is creating the built environment nearly 30 years at this point and and i i i truly believe that is what is creating the built environment that is keeping dundee it's keeping more of that quaint charm aspect that that everybody desires here so that is keeping dundee it's keeping more of that quaint charm aspect that that everybody desires here so that is keeping dundee it's keeping more of that quaint charm aspect that that everybody desires here so that is keeping dundee it's keeping more of that quaint charm aspect that that everybody desires here so that is keeping dundee it's keeping more of that quaint charm aspect that that everybody desires here so i think it's i think it's an important provision and i i would i would deem it to be one of the most i think it's i think it's an important provision and i i would i would deem it to be one of the most i think it's i think it's an important provision and i i would i would deem it to be one of the most i think it's i think it's an important provision and i i would i would deem it to be one of the most i think it's i think it's an important provision and i i would i would deem it to be one of the most important provisions that we apply against any evaluation of any development project yeah and i i don't important provisions that we apply against any evaluation of any development project yeah and i i don't important provisions that we apply against any evaluation of any development project yeah and i i don't important provisions that we apply against any evaluation of any development project yeah and i i don't important provisions that we apply against any evaluation of any development project yeah and i i don't
know is it uh our intention that the developer is going to give an opportunity to present of course okay well know is it uh our intention that the developer is going to give an opportunity to present of course okay well know is it uh our intention that the developer is going to give an opportunity to present of course okay well know is it uh our intention that the developer is going to give an opportunity to present of course okay well know is it uh our intention that the developer is going to give an opportunity to present of course okay well uh another question i have will be for the developer then so that's all i have great thank you uh so uh another question i have will be for the developer then so that's all i have great thank you uh so uh another question i have will be for the developer then so that's all i have great thank you uh so uh another question i have will be for the developer then so that's all i have great thank you uh so uh another question i have will be for the developer then so that's all i have great thank you uh so
questions for staff commissioner sandbergen you know george uh you mentioned that there was an existing questions for staff commissioner sandbergen you know george uh you mentioned that there was an existing questions for staff commissioner sandbergen you know george uh you mentioned that there was an existing questions for staff commissioner sandbergen you know george uh you mentioned that there was an existing questions for staff commissioner sandbergen you know george uh you mentioned that there was an existing
building permit does that have any bearing on what we're talking about tonight it really meant to just building permit does that have any bearing on what we're talking about tonight it really meant to just building permit does that have any bearing on what we're talking about tonight it really meant to just building permit does that have any bearing on what we're talking about tonight it really meant to just building permit does that have any bearing on what we're talking about tonight it really meant to just
to show you that there was a historical intent to do something that was more consistent with what's on to show you that there was a historical intent to do something that was more consistent with what's on to show you that there was a historical intent to do something that was more consistent with what's on to show you that there was a historical intent to do something that was more consistent with what's on to show you that there was a historical intent to do something that was more consistent with what's on the ground out there versus what we're seeing today okay hey bob can you move or one of you guys the ground out there versus what we're seeing today okay hey bob can you move or one of you guys the ground out there versus what we're seeing today okay hey bob can you move or one of you guys the ground out there versus what we're seeing today okay hey bob can you move or one of you guys the ground out there versus what we're seeing today okay hey bob can you move or one of you guys
where we're looking down on the property i just had some questions about the surrounding one yeah where we're looking down on the property i just had some questions about the surrounding one yeah where we're looking down on the property i just had some questions about the surrounding one yeah where we're looking down on the property i just had some questions about the surrounding one yeah where we're looking down on the property i just had some questions about the surrounding one yeah yeah you know that maybe go back for what it was a vacant piece one more one more yeah that that's yeah you know that maybe go back for what it was a vacant piece one more one more yeah that that's yeah you know that maybe go back for what it was a vacant piece one more one more yeah that that's yeah you know that maybe go back for what it was a vacant piece one more one more yeah that that's yeah you know that maybe go back for what it was a vacant piece one more one more yeah that that's fine that'll work all right on the north end is that residential or is that commercial condos fine that'll work all right on the north end is that residential or is that commercial condos fine that'll work all right on the north end is that residential or is that commercial condos fine that'll work all right on the north end is that residential or is that commercial condos fine that'll work all right on the north end is that residential or is that commercial condos
which adjoin the property oh this condo condos right behind it resident are they offices or are they which adjoin the property oh this condo condos right behind it resident are they offices or are they which adjoin the property oh this condo condos right behind it resident are they offices or are they which adjoin the property oh this condo condos right behind it resident are they offices or are they which adjoin the property oh this condo condos right behind it resident are they offices or are they
residential apartments okay okay and what is uh and to the west does that that's offices yes okay and residential apartments okay okay and what is uh and to the west does that that's offices yes okay and residential apartments okay okay and what is uh and to the west does that that's offices yes okay and residential apartments okay okay and what is uh and to the west does that that's offices yes okay and residential apartments okay okay and what is uh and to the west does that that's offices yes okay and
how about to the east is that a single family home no it's a uh gosh i forget what it is i don't it's how about to the east is that a single family home no it's a uh gosh i forget what it is i don't it's how about to the east is that a single family home no it's a uh gosh i forget what it is i don't it's how about to the east is that a single family home no it's a uh gosh i forget what it is i don't it's how about to the east is that a single family home no it's a uh gosh i forget what it is i don't it's
not single family okay but it is residential all right i guess immediately to the right it's got that not single family okay but it is residential all right i guess immediately to the right it's got that not single family okay but it is residential all right i guess immediately to the right it's got that not single family okay but it is residential all right i guess immediately to the right it's got that not single family okay but it is residential all right i guess immediately to the right it's got that uh you know i i guess it won't make it won't make any difference as i go from okay um i was back uh you know i i guess it won't make it won't make any difference as i go from okay um i was back uh you know i i guess it won't make it won't make any difference as i go from okay um i was back uh you know i i guess it won't make it won't make any difference as i go from okay um i was back uh you know i i guess it won't make it won't make any difference as i go from okay um i was back there today i spent some time on palmetto and this is a big building what are their plans are they storing there today i spent some time on palmetto and this is a big building what are their plans are they storing there today i spent some time on palmetto and this is a big building what are their plans are they storing there today i spent some time on palmetto and this is a big building what are their plans are they storing there today i spent some time on palmetto and this is a big building what are their plans are they storing the runoff water on site is there a vault or will it all be dumped onto uh city streets yeah i think the runoff water on site is there a vault or will it all be dumped onto uh city streets yeah i think the runoff water on site is there a vault or will it all be dumped onto uh city streets yeah i think the runoff water on site is there a vault or will it all be dumped onto uh city streets yeah i think the runoff water on site is there a vault or will it all be dumped onto uh city streets yeah i think
they'll speak to that because i know they've done some work between uh the lpa and this meeting tonight they'll speak to that because i know they've done some work between uh the lpa and this meeting tonight they'll speak to that because i know they've done some work between uh the lpa and this meeting tonight they'll speak to that because i know they've done some work between uh the lpa and this meeting tonight they'll speak to that because i know they've done some work between uh the lpa and this meeting tonight
on that okay uh yeah it was one of the concerns the residents had too was the and i was back there on that okay uh yeah it was one of the concerns the residents had too was the and i was back there on that okay uh yeah it was one of the concerns the residents had too was the and i was back there on that okay uh yeah it was one of the concerns the residents had too was the and i was back there on that okay uh yeah it was one of the concerns the residents had too was the and i was back there
today looking at it okay you know that's that's all i have for right now mayor thank you okay uh today looking at it okay you know that's that's all i have for right now mayor thank you okay uh today looking at it okay you know that's that's all i have for right now mayor thank you okay uh today looking at it okay you know that's that's all i have for right now mayor thank you okay uh today looking at it okay you know that's that's all i have for right now mayor thank you okay uh
commissioner gau questions for staff right now uh yeah you talked about that the previous permit that commissioner gau questions for staff right now uh yeah you talked about that the previous permit that commissioner gau questions for staff right now uh yeah you talked about that the previous permit that commissioner gau questions for staff right now uh yeah you talked about that the previous permit that commissioner gau questions for staff right now uh yeah you talked about that the previous permit that
was there well what was the size and scale of that so it's that's what created the building that is was there well what was the size and scale of that so it's that's what created the building that is was there well what was the size and scale of that so it's that's what created the building that is was there well what was the size and scale of that so it's that's what created the building that is was there well what was the size and scale of that so it's that's what created the building that is exists on the on the north side of the proposal so that is the three-story product that exists that you exists on the on the north side of the proposal so that is the three-story product that exists that you exists on the on the north side of the proposal so that is the three-story product that exists that you exists on the on the north side of the proposal so that is the three-story product that exists that you exists on the on the north side of the proposal so that is the three-story product that exists that you see in the that you see right above the right above what would do what would be behind it well yeah see in the that you see right above the right above what would do what would be behind it well yeah see in the that you see right above the right above what would do what would be behind it well yeah see in the that you see right above the right above what would do what would be behind it well yeah see in the that you see right above the right above what would do what would be behind it well yeah so the permit approved that building that was that is right above the square right so but it anticipated so the permit approved that building that was that is right above the square right so but it anticipated so the permit approved that building that was that is right above the square right so but it anticipated so the permit approved that building that was that is right above the square right so but it anticipated so the permit approved that building that was that is right above the square right so but it anticipated a future building coming forward towards uh main street and then that building was to the same scale a future building coming forward towards uh main street and then that building was to the same scale a future building coming forward towards uh main street and then that building was to the same scale a future building coming forward towards uh main street and then that building was to the same scale a future building coming forward towards uh main street and then that building was to the same scale
yes so that it is it's on the left hand side there commissioner so you can see the top building is yes so that it is it's on the left hand side there commissioner so you can see the top building is yes so that it is it's on the left hand side there commissioner so you can see the top building is yes so that it is it's on the left hand side there commissioner so you can see the top building is yes so that it is it's on the left hand side there commissioner so you can see the top building is the one that was constructed on the left hand side the top that top square was constructed the one that was constructed on the left hand side the top that top square was constructed the one that was constructed on the left hand side the top that top square was constructed the one that was constructed on the left hand side the top that top square was constructed the one that was constructed on the left hand side the top that top square was constructed and that's the that's the roof structure and then it anticipated you can see how the parking lot and that's the that's the roof structure and then it anticipated you can see how the parking lot and that's the that's the roof structure and then it anticipated you can see how the parking lot and that's the that's the roof structure and then it anticipated you can see how the parking lot and that's the that's the roof structure and then it anticipated you can see how the parking lot see how the parking area was extended and it stayed east of the parking area so it was intended where it see how the parking area was extended and it stayed east of the parking area so it was intended where it see how the parking area was extended and it stayed east of the parking area so it was intended where it see how the parking area was extended and it stayed east of the parking area so it was intended where it see how the parking area was extended and it stayed east of the parking area so it was intended where it says lot eight it was intended to kind of come at that point at that time come down and follow that same says lot eight it was intended to kind of come at that point at that time come down and follow that same says lot eight it was intended to kind of come at that point at that time come down and follow that same says lot eight it was intended to kind of come at that point at that time come down and follow that same says lot eight it was intended to kind of come at that point at that time come down and follow that same
pattern okay just an extension of of what's there exactly okay and that is two stories no i was that was pattern okay just an extension of of what's there exactly okay and that is two stories no i was that was pattern okay just an extension of of what's there exactly okay and that is two stories no i was that was pattern okay just an extension of of what's there exactly okay and that is two stories no i was that was pattern okay just an extension of of what's there exactly okay and that is two stories no i was that was
proposed then at three stories as well it was intended to complement that existing building and so yeah the proposed then at three stories as well it was intended to complement that existing building and so yeah the proposed then at three stories as well it was intended to complement that existing building and so yeah the proposed then at three stories as well it was intended to complement that existing building and so yeah the proposed then at three stories as well it was intended to complement that existing building and so yeah the
building that is there at right there at 100.1 exactly that is three stories that's correct that's building that is there at right there at 100.1 exactly that is three stories that's correct that's building that is there at right there at 100.1 exactly that is three stories that's correct that's building that is there at right there at 100.1 exactly that is three stories that's correct that's building that is there at right there at 100.1 exactly that is three stories that's correct that's
the only three-story building if you look at that compatibility analysis that is the only three-story the only three-story building if you look at that compatibility analysis that is the only three-story the only three-story building if you look at that compatibility analysis that is the only three-story the only three-story building if you look at that compatibility analysis that is the only three-story the only three-story building if you look at that compatibility analysis that is the only three-story
building three-story building in that area okay all right i know i also have questions about yes ma'am building three-story building in that area okay all right i know i also have questions about yes ma'am building three-story building in that area okay all right i know i also have questions about yes ma'am building three-story building in that area okay all right i know i also have questions about yes ma'am building three-story building in that area okay all right i know i also have questions about yes ma'am okay yeah i just want to make sure i know yeah uh i have questions about solid waste recycling should i okay yeah i just want to make sure i know yeah uh i have questions about solid waste recycling should i okay yeah i just want to make sure i know yeah uh i have questions about solid waste recycling should i okay yeah i just want to make sure i know yeah uh i have questions about solid waste recycling should i okay yeah i just want to make sure i know yeah uh i have questions about solid waste recycling should i
wait for the applicant uh you can i mean the the uh and solid waste has looked at it as part of as wait for the applicant uh you can i mean the the uh and solid waste has looked at it as part of as wait for the applicant uh you can i mean the the uh and solid waste has looked at it as part of as wait for the applicant uh you can i mean the the uh and solid waste has looked at it as part of as wait for the applicant uh you can i mean the the uh and solid waste has looked at it as part of as part of their drc review and has has commented that they can make that work but well yeah i don't know part of their drc review and has has commented that they can make that work but well yeah i don't know part of their drc review and has has commented that they can make that work but well yeah i don't know part of their drc review and has has commented that they can make that work but well yeah i don't know part of their drc review and has has commented that they can make that work but well yeah i don't know what make it work means so roll out so i think they were talking about rollout but yes the applicants what make it work means so roll out so i think they were talking about rollout but yes the applicants what make it work means so roll out so i think they were talking about rollout but yes the applicants what make it work means so roll out so i think they were talking about rollout but yes the applicants what make it work means so roll out so i think they were talking about rollout but yes the applicants can speak to that much better than i can okay all right i'm gonna wait um that's it okay uh commissioner can speak to that much better than i can okay all right i'm gonna wait um that's it okay uh commissioner can speak to that much better than i can okay all right i'm gonna wait um that's it okay uh commissioner can speak to that much better than i can okay all right i'm gonna wait um that's it okay uh commissioner can speak to that much better than i can okay all right i'm gonna wait um that's it okay uh commissioner degard questions for staff thank you mayor um i want to understand the timeline better here um degard questions for staff thank you mayor um i want to understand the timeline better here um degard questions for staff thank you mayor um i want to understand the timeline better here um degard questions for staff thank you mayor um i want to understand the timeline better here um degard questions for staff thank you mayor um i want to understand the timeline better here um because i want to understand when uh we began to uh communicate to the developer that this project had because i want to understand when uh we began to uh communicate to the developer that this project had because i want to understand when uh we began to uh communicate to the developer that this project had because i want to understand when uh we began to uh communicate to the developer that this project had because i want to understand when uh we began to uh communicate to the developer that this project had some challenges with height so can you kind of go back over that process again for me yeah so commissioner some challenges with height so can you kind of go back over that process again for me yeah so commissioner some challenges with height so can you kind of go back over that process again for me yeah so commissioner some challenges with height so can you kind of go back over that process again for me yeah so commissioner some challenges with height so can you kind of go back over that process again for me yeah so commissioner so we we typically get involved with the applicant well before it gets to a drc meeting so you can see so we we typically get involved with the applicant well before it gets to a drc meeting so you can see so we we typically get involved with the applicant well before it gets to a drc meeting so you can see so we we typically get involved with the applicant well before it gets to a drc meeting so you can see so we we typically get involved with the applicant well before it gets to a drc meeting so you can see that the drc meeting took place on july 17 of 2024 they were informed at the very first staff meeting that the drc meeting took place on july 17 of 2024 they were informed at the very first staff meeting that the drc meeting took place on july 17 of 2024 they were informed at the very first staff meeting that the drc meeting took place on july 17 of 2024 they were informed at the very first staff meeting that the drc meeting took place on july 17 of 2024 they were informed at the very first staff meeting that uh that height and mass the way it was presented would be a challenge um they asked for that uh that height and mass the way it was presented would be a challenge um they asked for that uh that height and mass the way it was presented would be a challenge um they asked for that uh that height and mass the way it was presented would be a challenge um they asked for that uh that height and mass the way it was presented would be a challenge um they asked for more specificity on what that meant so we actually had a meeting with the city manager at the request of more specificity on what that meant so we actually had a meeting with the city manager at the request of more specificity on what that meant so we actually had a meeting with the city manager at the request of more specificity on what that meant so we actually had a meeting with the city manager at the request of more specificity on what that meant so we actually had a meeting with the city manager at the request of the applicant to talk about what that means um and that's where we conveyed to them that we would the applicant to talk about what that means um and that's where we conveyed to them that we would the applicant to talk about what that means um and that's where we conveyed to them that we would the applicant to talk about what that means um and that's where we conveyed to them that we would the applicant to talk about what that means um and that's where we conveyed to them that we would support a one to two-story product possibly a three-story product with a compelling support a one to two-story product possibly a three-story product with a compelling support a one to two-story product possibly a three-story product with a compelling support a one to two-story product possibly a three-story product with a compelling support a one to two-story product possibly a three-story product with a compelling compatibility analysis and then we followed that up with an email articulating that very point so compatibility analysis and then we followed that up with an email articulating that very point so compatibility analysis and then we followed that up with an email articulating that very point so compatibility analysis and then we followed that up with an email articulating that very point so compatibility analysis and then we followed that up with an email articulating that very point so they've had that literally from the beginning so from 2024 18 months ago through today yeah we have they've had that literally from the beginning so from 2024 18 months ago through today yeah we have they've had that literally from the beginning so from 2024 18 months ago through today yeah we have they've had that literally from the beginning so from 2024 18 months ago through today yeah we have they've had that literally from the beginning so from 2024 18 months ago through today yeah we have continually suggested that the project as proposed is would be a challenge um but certainly that continually suggested that the project as proposed is would be a challenge um but certainly that continually suggested that the project as proposed is would be a challenge um but certainly that continually suggested that the project as proposed is would be a challenge um but certainly that continually suggested that the project as proposed is would be a challenge um but certainly that you know the right to request that additional height and the step back waiver is within the land you know the right to request that additional height and the step back waiver is within the land you know the right to request that additional height and the step back waiver is within the land you know the right to request that additional height and the step back waiver is within the land you know the right to request that additional height and the step back waiver is within the land development code and is something that they can ask for and something that they are asking for development code and is something that they can ask for and something that they are asking for development code and is something that they can ask for and something that they are asking for development code and is something that they can ask for and something that they are asking for development code and is something that they can ask for and something that they are asking for
that's all i have mayor thank you um well a couple questions um one is so why would we allow it to go that's all i have mayor thank you um well a couple questions um one is so why would we allow it to go that's all i have mayor thank you um well a couple questions um one is so why would we allow it to go that's all i have mayor thank you um well a couple questions um one is so why would we allow it to go that's all i have mayor thank you um well a couple questions um one is so why would we allow it to go to lpa if things weren't complete at the lower level so we don't we don't tell a developer they can't take to lpa if things weren't complete at the lower level so we don't we don't tell a developer they can't take to lpa if things weren't complete at the lower level so we don't we don't tell a developer they can't take to lpa if things weren't complete at the lower level so we don't we don't tell a developer they can't take to lpa if things weren't complete at the lower level so we don't we don't tell a developer they can't take
the next step it's their choice we what we try to do is work with them and get the product to something the next step it's their choice we what we try to do is work with them and get the product to something the next step it's their choice we what we try to do is work with them and get the product to something the next step it's their choice we what we try to do is work with them and get the product to something the next step it's their choice we what we try to do is work with them and get the product to something that we can recommend approval on um we we actually sent a few emails that were responded to um where that we can recommend approval on um we we actually sent a few emails that were responded to um where that we can recommend approval on um we we actually sent a few emails that were responded to um where that we can recommend approval on um we we actually sent a few emails that were responded to um where that we can recommend approval on um we we actually sent a few emails that were responded to um where we suggested that you know is is are you sure you want to continue to move forward without staff we suggested that you know is is are you sure you want to continue to move forward without staff we suggested that you know is is are you sure you want to continue to move forward without staff we suggested that you know is is are you sure you want to continue to move forward without staff we suggested that you know is is are you sure you want to continue to move forward without staff consideration or without staff recommendation and they they they asked us to continue to move it forward consideration or without staff recommendation and they they they asked us to continue to move it forward consideration or without staff recommendation and they they they asked us to continue to move it forward consideration or without staff recommendation and they they they asked us to continue to move it forward consideration or without staff recommendation and they they they asked us to continue to move it forward and i don't know legally if we if we can not accommodate that kind of request okay i mean okay i guess that's and i don't know legally if we if we can not accommodate that kind of request okay i mean okay i guess that's and i don't know legally if we if we can not accommodate that kind of request okay i mean okay i guess that's and i don't know legally if we if we can not accommodate that kind of request okay i mean okay i guess that's and i don't know legally if we if we can not accommodate that kind of request okay i mean okay i guess that's
that's at one's own risk um so even if i thought there was compatibility a four story in the code that's at one's own risk um so even if i thought there was compatibility a four story in the code that's at one's own risk um so even if i thought there was compatibility a four story in the code that's at one's own risk um so even if i thought there was compatibility a four story in the code that's at one's own risk um so even if i thought there was compatibility a four story in the code my recollection is is only if the rest of the project is architecturally so great my recollection is is only if the rest of the project is architecturally so great my recollection is is only if the rest of the project is architecturally so great my recollection is is only if the rest of the project is architecturally so great my recollection is is only if the rest of the project is architecturally so great
that it kind of offsets the four story is that what the code says yeah and i you know i i think that that it kind of offsets the four story is that what the code says yeah and i you know i i think that that it kind of offsets the four story is that what the code says yeah and i you know i i think that that it kind of offsets the four story is that what the code says yeah and i you know i i think that that it kind of offsets the four story is that what the code says yeah and i you know i i think that applies to both the height that you would be considering and the step back so and you know that's another applies to both the height that you would be considering and the step back so and you know that's another applies to both the height that you would be considering and the step back so and you know that's another applies to both the height that you would be considering and the step back so and you know that's another applies to both the height that you would be considering and the step back so and you know that's another piece to this that we haven't talked about because um it since i've been here and since i presented piece to this that we haven't talked about because um it since i've been here and since i presented piece to this that we haven't talked about because um it since i've been here and since i presented piece to this that we haven't talked about because um it since i've been here and since i presented piece to this that we haven't talked about because um it since i've been here and since i presented projects to you i don't remember you ever waving a 10 foot step back you've you've you've waived projects to you i don't remember you ever waving a 10 foot step back you've you've you've waived projects to you i don't remember you ever waving a 10 foot step back you've you've you've waived projects to you i don't remember you ever waving a 10 foot step back you've you've you've waived projects to you i don't remember you ever waving a 10 foot step back you've you've you've waived modifications where you've said we'll do a 10 foot step back here and it's so architecturally well done modifications where you've said we'll do a 10 foot step back here and it's so architecturally well done modifications where you've said we'll do a 10 foot step back here and it's so architecturally well done modifications where you've said we'll do a 10 foot step back here and it's so architecturally well done modifications where you've said we'll do a 10 foot step back here and it's so architecturally well done here you're not creating that canyon effect and we'll you know we'll forgive a portion of the building here you're not creating that canyon effect and we'll you know we'll forgive a portion of the building here you're not creating that canyon effect and we'll you know we'll forgive a portion of the building here you're not creating that canyon effect and we'll you know we'll forgive a portion of the building here you're not creating that canyon effect and we'll you know we'll forgive a portion of the building but you've never outright waived a 10 foot step back requirement and you're right it is it absolutely but you've never outright waived a 10 foot step back requirement and you're right it is it absolutely but you've never outright waived a 10 foot step back requirement and you're right it is it absolutely but you've never outright waived a 10 foot step back requirement and you're right it is it absolutely but you've never outright waived a 10 foot step back requirement and you're right it is it absolutely embedded into the architectural character if you think that there is some compelling architecture embedded into the architectural character if you think that there is some compelling architecture embedded into the architectural character if you think that there is some compelling architecture embedded into the architectural character if you think that there is some compelling architecture embedded into the architectural character if you think that there is some compelling architecture here that would suggest waving that 10 foot step back and and supporting that fourth floor then here that would suggest waving that 10 foot step back and and supporting that fourth floor then here that would suggest waving that 10 foot step back and and supporting that fourth floor then here that would suggest waving that 10 foot step back and and supporting that fourth floor then here that would suggest waving that 10 foot step back and and supporting that fourth floor then
that's where i think you go with it probably going to ask you bob because i think you were here that's where i think you go with it probably going to ask you bob because i think you were here that's where i think you go with it probably going to ask you bob because i think you were here that's where i think you go with it probably going to ask you bob because i think you were here that's where i think you go with it probably going to ask you bob because i think you were here i'm not sure you were here um how far back does the step back go so it was being part of our code i'm not sure you were here um how far back does the step back go so it was being part of our code i'm not sure you were here um how far back does the step back go so it was being part of our code i'm not sure you were here um how far back does the step back go so it was being part of our code i'm not sure you were here um how far back does the step back go so it was being part of our code
oh geez probably uh i'll say 2016 it's been there quite some time yeah it was part of 2005 visioning oh geez probably uh i'll say 2016 it's been there quite some time yeah it was part of 2005 visioning oh geez probably uh i'll say 2016 it's been there quite some time yeah it was part of 2005 visioning oh geez probably uh i'll say 2016 it's been there quite some time yeah it was part of 2005 visioning oh geez probably uh i'll say 2016 it's been there quite some time yeah it was part of 2005 visioning
yeah and it happened somewhere in a couple years after that it got into the code the step back was yeah and it happened somewhere in a couple years after that it got into the code the step back was yeah and it happened somewhere in a couple years after that it got into the code the step back was yeah and it happened somewhere in a couple years after that it got into the code the step back was yeah and it happened somewhere in a couple years after that it got into the code the step back was an important part in order to create um so you've gone a lot with the compatibility and um used to be an important part in order to create um so you've gone a lot with the compatibility and um used to be an important part in order to create um so you've gone a lot with the compatibility and um used to be an important part in order to create um so you've gone a lot with the compatibility and um used to be an important part in order to create um so you've gone a lot with the compatibility and um used to be a word in our comp plan and then it was made a memo by our city attorney not the city attorney that a word in our comp plan and then it was made a memo by our city attorney not the city attorney that a word in our comp plan and then it was made a memo by our city attorney not the city attorney that a word in our comp plan and then it was made a memo by our city attorney not the city attorney that a word in our comp plan and then it was made a memo by our city attorney not the city attorney that was relied on and then the comp plan got deeper and more detailed about the importance of compatibility was relied on and then the comp plan got deeper and more detailed about the importance of compatibility was relied on and then the comp plan got deeper and more detailed about the importance of compatibility was relied on and then the comp plan got deeper and more detailed about the importance of compatibility was relied on and then the comp plan got deeper and more detailed about the importance of compatibility i guess my question is why did the lpa not give it as much weight yeah i think there's so because it i guess my question is why did the lpa not give it as much weight yeah i think there's so because it i guess my question is why did the lpa not give it as much weight yeah i think there's so because it i guess my question is why did the lpa not give it as much weight yeah i think there's so because it i guess my question is why did the lpa not give it as much weight yeah i think there's so because it is part of what keeps our balance and our charm that's a great question mary so you know part of it is is part of what keeps our balance and our charm that's a great question mary so you know part of it is is part of what keeps our balance and our charm that's a great question mary so you know part of it is is part of what keeps our balance and our charm that's a great question mary so you know part of it is is part of what keeps our balance and our charm that's a great question mary so you know part of it is
they're residents number one they're they're not trained aggressively on compatibility we do the best they're residents number one they're they're not trained aggressively on compatibility we do the best they're residents number one they're they're not trained aggressively on compatibility we do the best they're residents number one they're they're not trained aggressively on compatibility we do the best they're residents number one they're they're not trained aggressively on compatibility we do the best we can when we orient our planning commission members to understand it i think the lpa and and i don't we can when we orient our planning commission members to understand it i think the lpa and and i don't we can when we orient our planning commission members to understand it i think the lpa and and i don't we can when we orient our planning commission members to understand it i think the lpa and and i don't we can when we orient our planning commission members to understand it i think the lpa and and i don't i don't want to speak for them it's a great group and they are really good people with good hearts and i don't want to speak for them it's a great group and they are really good people with good hearts and i don't want to speak for them it's a great group and they are really good people with good hearts and i don't want to speak for them it's a great group and they are really good people with good hearts and i don't want to speak for them it's a great group and they are really good people with good hearts and good intentions i just think they got a little confused um there were some terms thrown around good intentions i just think they got a little confused um there were some terms thrown around good intentions i just think they got a little confused um there were some terms thrown around good intentions i just think they got a little confused um there were some terms thrown around good intentions i just think they got a little confused um there were some terms thrown around including entitlement and catalyst projects and some other things that were tossed around and you including entitlement and catalyst projects and some other things that were tossed around and you including entitlement and catalyst projects and some other things that were tossed around and you including entitlement and catalyst projects and some other things that were tossed around and you including entitlement and catalyst projects and some other things that were tossed around and you know i think in this case there there just wasn't the understanding that the the the not only do the know i think in this case there there just wasn't the understanding that the the the not only do the know i think in this case there there just wasn't the understanding that the the the not only do the know i think in this case there there just wasn't the understanding that the the the not only do the know i think in this case there there just wasn't the understanding that the the the not only do the land development code provisions apply but also the master plan provisions apply and that there should be land development code provisions apply but also the master plan provisions apply and that there should be land development code provisions apply but also the master plan provisions apply and that there should be land development code provisions apply but also the master plan provisions apply and that there should be land development code provisions apply but also the master plan provisions apply and that there should be just as much weight placed on compatibility as there is for any other provision that's used when just as much weight placed on compatibility as there is for any other provision that's used when just as much weight placed on compatibility as there is for any other provision that's used when just as much weight placed on compatibility as there is for any other provision that's used when just as much weight placed on compatibility as there is for any other provision that's used when we're evaluating those plans um you know they just um you know i i just think they they just we're evaluating those plans um you know they just um you know i i just think they they just we're evaluating those plans um you know they just um you know i i just think they they just we're evaluating those plans um you know they just um you know i i just think they they just we're evaluating those plans um you know they just um you know i i just think they they just struggled with um you know how that applies in what context and you know that part of that's me that struggled with um you know how that applies in what context and you know that part of that's me that struggled with um you know how that applies in what context and you know that part of that's me that struggled with um you know how that applies in what context and you know that part of that's me that struggled with um you know how that applies in what context and you know that part of that's me that maybe not having explained it very well at the lpa meeting or maybe not having done enough in the maybe not having explained it very well at the lpa meeting or maybe not having done enough in the maybe not having explained it very well at the lpa meeting or maybe not having done enough in the maybe not having explained it very well at the lpa meeting or maybe not having done enough in the maybe not having explained it very well at the lpa meeting or maybe not having done enough in the orientation meetings to get them you know accustomed to what that really means for the city but orientation meetings to get them you know accustomed to what that really means for the city but orientation meetings to get them you know accustomed to what that really means for the city but orientation meetings to get them you know accustomed to what that really means for the city but orientation meetings to get them you know accustomed to what that really means for the city but you know i don't have a i don't have a great explanation because you know the the initial you know i don't have a i don't have a great explanation because you know the the initial you know i don't have a i don't have a great explanation because you know the the initial you know i don't have a i don't have a great explanation because you know the the initial you know i don't have a i don't have a great explanation because you know the the initial recommendation was to was to deny the application you know that that that motion died for failure for recommendation was to was to deny the application you know that that that motion died for failure for recommendation was to was to deny the application you know that that that motion died for failure for recommendation was to was to deny the application you know that that that motion died for failure for recommendation was to was to deny the application you know that that that motion died for failure for a second and then the second came up and and that was approved five to one so okay i can offer a great a second and then the second came up and and that was approved five to one so okay i can offer a great a second and then the second came up and and that was approved five to one so okay i can offer a great a second and then the second came up and and that was approved five to one so okay i can offer a great a second and then the second came up and and that was approved five to one so okay i can offer a great
no no i i appreciate that um so um and i guess that's all my questions right now so uh we'll go to no no i i appreciate that um so um and i guess that's all my questions right now so uh we'll go to no no i i appreciate that um so um and i guess that's all my questions right now so uh we'll go to no no i i appreciate that um so um and i guess that's all my questions right now so uh we'll go to no no i i appreciate that um so um and i guess that's all my questions right now so uh we'll go to
applicant presentation right thank you madam mayor uh we do have a powerpoint george i don't know if applicant presentation right thank you madam mayor uh we do have a powerpoint george i don't know if applicant presentation right thank you madam mayor uh we do have a powerpoint george i don't know if applicant presentation right thank you madam mayor uh we do have a powerpoint george i don't know if applicant presentation right thank you madam mayor uh we do have a powerpoint george i don't know if you'll be clicking those slides i did just want to pass out a printout of your cra map which george uh you'll be clicking those slides i did just want to pass out a printout of your cra map which george uh you'll be clicking those slides i did just want to pass out a printout of your cra map which george uh you'll be clicking those slides i did just want to pass out a printout of your cra map which george uh you'll be clicking those slides i did just want to pass out a printout of your cra map which george uh mayor commissioners while you're passing that out uh in the uh interest of time i'll introduce myself mayor commissioners while you're passing that out uh in the uh interest of time i'll introduce myself mayor commissioners while you're passing that out uh in the uh interest of time i'll introduce myself mayor commissioners while you're passing that out uh in the uh interest of time i'll introduce myself mayor commissioners while you're passing that out uh in the uh interest of time i'll introduce myself brian angst 625 court street uh here on behalf of the applicant land devs development uh and ashley brian angst 625 court street uh here on behalf of the applicant land devs development uh and ashley brian angst 625 court street uh here on behalf of the applicant land devs development uh and ashley brian angst 625 court street uh here on behalf of the applicant land devs development uh and ashley brian angst 625 court street uh here on behalf of the applicant land devs development uh and ashley reinhold and chris reinhold uh who are local developers they are proud property owners in the city of reinhold and chris reinhold uh who are local developers they are proud property owners in the city of reinhold and chris reinhold uh who are local developers they are proud property owners in the city of reinhold and chris reinhold uh who are local developers they are proud property owners in the city of reinhold and chris reinhold uh who are local developers they are proud property owners in the city of dunedin proud members and supporters of the chamber of commerce uh and they've been residents in north dunedin proud members and supporters of the chamber of commerce uh and they've been residents in north dunedin proud members and supporters of the chamber of commerce uh and they've been residents in north dunedin proud members and supporters of the chamber of commerce uh and they've been residents in north dunedin proud members and supporters of the chamber of commerce uh and they've been residents in north panels county for over 24 years we're also joined by our architect tulio zalaga who testified at the panels county for over 24 years we're also joined by our architect tulio zalaga who testified at the panels county for over 24 years we're also joined by our architect tulio zalaga who testified at the panels county for over 24 years we're also joined by our architect tulio zalaga who testified at the panels county for over 24 years we're also joined by our architect tulio zalaga who testified at the arc and also at the lpa if you had a chance to watch the lpa hearing you heard him speak at that meeting arc and also at the lpa if you had a chance to watch the lpa hearing you heard him speak at that meeting arc and also at the lpa if you had a chance to watch the lpa hearing you heard him speak at that meeting arc and also at the lpa if you had a chance to watch the lpa hearing you heard him speak at that meeting arc and also at the lpa if you had a chance to watch the lpa hearing you heard him speak at that meeting and also from north side engineering who's gavahi who's here now who wasn't present at lpa but can and also from north side engineering who's gavahi who's here now who wasn't present at lpa but can and also from north side engineering who's gavahi who's here now who wasn't present at lpa but can and also from north side engineering who's gavahi who's here now who wasn't present at lpa but can and also from north side engineering who's gavahi who's here now who wasn't present at lpa but can answer any questions as it relates to the stormwater and the drainage and the improvements on the site answer any questions as it relates to the stormwater and the drainage and the improvements on the site answer any questions as it relates to the stormwater and the drainage and the improvements on the site answer any questions as it relates to the stormwater and the drainage and the improvements on the site answer any questions as it relates to the stormwater and the drainage and the improvements on the site so mayor and commissioner as you know this property is a vacant property on skinner road so mayor and commissioner as you know this property is a vacant property on skinner road so mayor and commissioner as you know this property is a vacant property on skinner road so mayor and commissioner as you know this property is a vacant property on skinner road so mayor and commissioner as you know this property is a vacant property on skinner road that is skinner boulevard that is in the activity center land use and it has the downtown core that is skinner boulevard that is in the activity center land use and it has the downtown core that is skinner boulevard that is in the activity center land use and it has the downtown core that is skinner boulevard that is in the activity center land use and it has the downtown core that is skinner boulevard that is in the activity center land use and it has the downtown core zoning it is in the cra the community redevelopment area this is an underutilized vacant site that has zoning it is in the cra the community redevelopment area this is an underutilized vacant site that has zoning it is in the cra the community redevelopment area this is an underutilized vacant site that has zoning it is in the cra the community redevelopment area this is an underutilized vacant site that has zoning it is in the cra the community redevelopment area this is an underutilized vacant site that has been underutilized and non-conforming for decades that building that was permitted back in the 80s is been underutilized and non-conforming for decades that building that was permitted back in the 80s is been underutilized and non-conforming for decades that building that was permitted back in the 80s is been underutilized and non-conforming for decades that building that was permitted back in the 80s is been underutilized and non-conforming for decades that building that was permitted back in the 80s is would not be allowed to be built today it's not conforming for parking it's not conforming for would not be allowed to be built today it's not conforming for parking it's not conforming for would not be allowed to be built today it's not conforming for parking it's not conforming for would not be allowed to be built today it's not conforming for parking it's not conforming for would not be allowed to be built today it's not conforming for parking it's not conforming for impervious surface ratio it's not conforming for sustainability it's not conforming for stormwater impervious surface ratio it's not conforming for sustainability it's not conforming for stormwater impervious surface ratio it's not conforming for sustainability it's not conforming for stormwater impervious surface ratio it's not conforming for sustainability it's not conforming for stormwater impervious surface ratio it's not conforming for sustainability it's not conforming for stormwater and drainage this project is this project is conforming and it activates the vacant parcel that and drainage this project is this project is conforming and it activates the vacant parcel that and drainage this project is this project is conforming and it activates the vacant parcel that and drainage this project is this project is conforming and it activates the vacant parcel that and drainage this project is this project is conforming and it activates the vacant parcel that is what the lpa was intrigued by that is what they bought into the lpa said that the city in the downtown is what the lpa was intrigued by that is what they bought into the lpa said that the city in the downtown is what the lpa was intrigued by that is what they bought into the lpa said that the city in the downtown is what the lpa was intrigued by that is what they bought into the lpa said that the city in the downtown is what the lpa was intrigued by that is what they bought into the lpa said that the city in the downtown core has been tremendously successful as you know and has been able to retain the charm and the unique core has been tremendously successful as you know and has been able to retain the charm and the unique core has been tremendously successful as you know and has been able to retain the charm and the unique core has been tremendously successful as you know and has been able to retain the charm and the unique core has been tremendously successful as you know and has been able to retain the charm and the unique uniqueness of dunedin but when you come to skinner boulevard the city has somewhat struggled to uniqueness of dunedin but when you come to skinner boulevard the city has somewhat struggled to uniqueness of dunedin but when you come to skinner boulevard the city has somewhat struggled to uniqueness of dunedin but when you come to skinner boulevard the city has somewhat struggled to uniqueness of dunedin but when you come to skinner boulevard the city has somewhat struggled to replicate the success of the rest of the downtown core mr benjamin who's now the chair of the lpa said replicate the success of the rest of the downtown core mr benjamin who's now the chair of the lpa said replicate the success of the rest of the downtown core mr benjamin who's now the chair of the lpa said replicate the success of the rest of the downtown core mr benjamin who's now the chair of the lpa said replicate the success of the rest of the downtown core mr benjamin who's now the chair of the lpa said he believed this project would be a catalyst for redevelopment and our point is when you look at he believed this project would be a catalyst for redevelopment and our point is when you look at he believed this project would be a catalyst for redevelopment and our point is when you look at he believed this project would be a catalyst for redevelopment and our point is when you look at he believed this project would be a catalyst for redevelopment and our point is when you look at compatibility under objective 2.9 you have to look at the permitted land uses okay so what are the compatibility under objective 2.9 you have to look at the permitted land uses okay so what are the compatibility under objective 2.9 you have to look at the permitted land uses okay so what are the compatibility under objective 2.9 you have to look at the permitted land uses okay so what are the compatibility under objective 2.9 you have to look at the permitted land uses okay so what are the permitted land uses all of the surrounding abutting properties are downtown core all of them the abutting permitted land uses all of the surrounding abutting properties are downtown core all of them the abutting permitted land uses all of the surrounding abutting properties are downtown core all of them the abutting permitted land uses all of the surrounding abutting properties are downtown core all of them the abutting permitted land uses all of the surrounding abutting properties are downtown core all of them the abutting property to the rear is 36 feet and was approved in the 80s and has surface parking we could be 36 feet if property to the rear is 36 feet and was approved in the 80s and has surface parking we could be 36 feet if property to the rear is 36 feet and was approved in the 80s and has surface parking we could be 36 feet if property to the rear is 36 feet and was approved in the 80s and has surface parking we could be 36 feet if property to the rear is 36 feet and was approved in the 80s and has surface parking we could be 36 feet if we were allowed to do surface parking but you don't want back out surface parking on skinner in between the we were allowed to do surface parking but you don't want back out surface parking on skinner in between the we were allowed to do surface parking but you don't want back out surface parking on skinner in between the we were allowed to do surface parking but you don't want back out surface parking on skinner in between the we were allowed to do surface parking but you don't want back out surface parking on skinner in between the two roundabouts that's not a transportation or multimodal or pedestrian or cyclist oriented design two roundabouts that's not a transportation or multimodal or pedestrian or cyclist oriented design two roundabouts that's not a transportation or multimodal or pedestrian or cyclist oriented design two roundabouts that's not a transportation or multimodal or pedestrian or cyclist oriented design two roundabouts that's not a transportation or multimodal or pedestrian or cyclist oriented design this project incorporates structured parking which is where the extra six feet come in this project this project incorporates structured parking which is where the extra six feet come in this project this project incorporates structured parking which is where the extra six feet come in this project this project incorporates structured parking which is where the extra six feet come in this project this project incorporates structured parking which is where the extra six feet come in this project asks for everything that's allowed pursuant to the code the code allows type c frontages which this is asks for everything that's allowed pursuant to the code the code allows type c frontages which this is asks for everything that's allowed pursuant to the code the code allows type c frontages which this is asks for everything that's allowed pursuant to the code the code allows type c frontages which this is asks for everything that's allowed pursuant to the code the code allows type c frontages which this is to go to 46 feet with commission approval it's it's your decision it's your decision to make based on to go to 46 feet with commission approval it's it's your decision it's your decision to make based on to go to 46 feet with commission approval it's it's your decision it's your decision to make based on to go to 46 feet with commission approval it's it's your decision it's your decision to make based on to go to 46 feet with commission approval it's it's your decision it's your decision to make based on the evidence that's presented the arc unanimously recommended approval to the lpa with those four the evidence that's presented the arc unanimously recommended approval to the lpa with those four the evidence that's presented the arc unanimously recommended approval to the lpa with those four the evidence that's presented the arc unanimously recommended approval to the lpa with those four the evidence that's presented the arc unanimously recommended approval to the lpa with those four conditions which were met and the lpa determined were met and mr zalago will testify about those conditions which were met and the lpa determined were met and mr zalago will testify about those conditions which were met and the lpa determined were met and mr zalago will testify about those conditions which were met and the lpa determined were met and mr zalago will testify about those conditions which were met and the lpa determined were met and mr zalago will testify about those four conditions and i'll get into the specifics on why we unfortunately we're not able to go back to four conditions and i'll get into the specifics on why we unfortunately we're not able to go back to four conditions and i'll get into the specifics on why we unfortunately we're not able to go back to four conditions and i'll get into the specifics on why we unfortunately we're not able to go back to four conditions and i'll get into the specifics on why we unfortunately we're not able to go back to the arc i don't want to belabor that at this point so the the none of the abutting properties and this is the arc i don't want to belabor that at this point so the the none of the abutting properties and this is the arc i don't want to belabor that at this point so the the none of the abutting properties and this is the arc i don't want to belabor that at this point so the the none of the abutting properties and this is the arc i don't want to belabor that at this point so the the none of the abutting properties and this is outlined in the staff report none of the abutting properties are permitted to have a single outlined in the staff report none of the abutting properties are permitted to have a single outlined in the staff report none of the abutting properties are permitted to have a single outlined in the staff report none of the abutting properties are permitted to have a single outlined in the staff report none of the abutting properties are permitted to have a single family home built today you could not permit a single family home on any of the abutting properties family home built today you could not permit a single family home on any of the abutting properties family home built today you could not permit a single family home on any of the abutting properties family home built today you could not permit a single family home on any of the abutting properties family home built today you could not permit a single family home on any of the abutting properties today so one of the things we're saying is in objective 2.9 it talks about the existing permissible today so one of the things we're saying is in objective 2.9 it talks about the existing permissible today so one of the things we're saying is in objective 2.9 it talks about the existing permissible today so one of the things we're saying is in objective 2.9 it talks about the existing permissible today so one of the things we're saying is in objective 2.9 it talks about the existing permissible land uses not one existing permissible land use abutting this property a single family home land uses not one existing permissible land use abutting this property a single family home land uses not one existing permissible land use abutting this property a single family home land uses not one existing permissible land use abutting this property a single family home land uses not one existing permissible land use abutting this property a single family home because it's an activity center and the legislative intent of the commission and of the staff and because it's an activity center and the legislative intent of the commission and of the staff and because it's an activity center and the legislative intent of the commission and of the staff and because it's an activity center and the legislative intent of the commission and of the staff and because it's an activity center and the legislative intent of the commission and of the staff and in adopting the activity center land use for this property and the downtown core zoning for this in adopting the activity center land use for this property and the downtown core zoning for this in adopting the activity center land use for this property and the downtown core zoning for this in adopting the activity center land use for this property and the downtown core zoning for this in adopting the activity center land use for this property and the downtown core zoning for this property and the type c frontage for this property was to enable it to be activated with appropriate property and the type c frontage for this property was to enable it to be activated with appropriate property and the type c frontage for this property was to enable it to be activated with appropriate property and the type c frontage for this property was to enable it to be activated with appropriate property and the type c frontage for this property was to enable it to be activated with appropriate sustainable resilient development which respectfully we believe we've submitted for your consideration sustainable resilient development which respectfully we believe we've submitted for your consideration sustainable resilient development which respectfully we believe we've submitted for your consideration sustainable resilient development which respectfully we believe we've submitted for your consideration sustainable resilient development which respectfully we believe we've submitted for your consideration today the the adjacent properties are residential condo 36 feet to the rear rare warehouse restaurant today the the adjacent properties are residential condo 36 feet to the rear rare warehouse restaurant today the the adjacent properties are residential condo 36 feet to the rear rare warehouse restaurant today the the adjacent properties are residential condo 36 feet to the rear rare warehouse restaurant today the the adjacent properties are residential condo 36 feet to the rear rare warehouse restaurant and then there's the office condo the well well spa all of that to the west next slide please and then there's the office condo the well well spa all of that to the west next slide please and then there's the office condo the well well spa all of that to the west next slide please and then there's the office condo the well well spa all of that to the west next slide please and then there's the office condo the well well spa all of that to the west next slide please i do want to point out again as you know the activity center land use plan category uh is designed i do want to point out again as you know the activity center land use plan category uh is designed i do want to point out again as you know the activity center land use plan category uh is designed i do want to point out again as you know the activity center land use plan category uh is designed i do want to point out again as you know the activity center land use plan category uh is designed to uh permits up to 30 dwelling units per acre uh and is designed to activate uh and bring activity to uh permits up to 30 dwelling units per acre uh and is designed to activate uh and bring activity to uh permits up to 30 dwelling units per acre uh and is designed to activate uh and bring activity to uh permits up to 30 dwelling units per acre uh and is designed to activate uh and bring activity to uh permits up to 30 dwelling units per acre uh and is designed to activate uh and bring activity including pedestrian and residential activity to your downtown core we want high quality residential including pedestrian and residential activity to your downtown core we want high quality residential including pedestrian and residential activity to your downtown core we want high quality residential including pedestrian and residential activity to your downtown core we want high quality residential including pedestrian and residential activity to your downtown core we want high quality residential projects in the downtown core we want them to be uh walkable we want them to be compatible with the projects in the downtown core we want them to be uh walkable we want them to be compatible with the projects in the downtown core we want them to be uh walkable we want them to be compatible with the projects in the downtown core we want them to be uh walkable we want them to be compatible with the projects in the downtown core we want them to be uh walkable we want them to be compatible with the complete streets that's why we set the building back 10 feet per code uh and it says here uh the table complete streets that's why we set the building back 10 feet per code uh and it says here uh the table complete streets that's why we set the building back 10 feet per code uh and it says here uh the table complete streets that's why we set the building back 10 feet per code uh and it says here uh the table complete streets that's why we set the building back 10 feet per code uh and it says here uh the table the code allows a zero foot front setback zero feet to the property line what the lpa recognized was we the code allows a zero foot front setback zero feet to the property line what the lpa recognized was we the code allows a zero foot front setback zero feet to the property line what the lpa recognized was we the code allows a zero foot front setback zero feet to the property line what the lpa recognized was we the code allows a zero foot front setback zero feet to the property line what the lpa recognized was we didn't do that we set the whole building back 10 feet to avoid the canyon effect that is why the lpa didn't do that we set the whole building back 10 feet to avoid the canyon effect that is why the lpa didn't do that we set the whole building back 10 feet to avoid the canyon effect that is why the lpa didn't do that we set the whole building back 10 feet to avoid the canyon effect that is why the lpa didn't do that we set the whole building back 10 feet to avoid the canyon effect that is why the lpa recognized that that step step back waiver was unnecessary because there is no canyon effect it's entirely set recognized that that step step back waiver was unnecessary because there is no canyon effect it's entirely set recognized that that step step back waiver was unnecessary because there is no canyon effect it's entirely set recognized that that step step back waiver was unnecessary because there is no canyon effect it's entirely set recognized that that step step back waiver was unnecessary because there is no canyon effect it's entirely set back from the front property line which will vastly increase the pedestrian oriented nature of the back from the front property line which will vastly increase the pedestrian oriented nature of the back from the front property line which will vastly increase the pedestrian oriented nature of the back from the front property line which will vastly increase the pedestrian oriented nature of the back from the front property line which will vastly increase the pedestrian oriented nature of the project i'll show you a mass in comparison of what what what if we did a three-story building project i'll show you a mass in comparison of what what what if we did a three-story building project i'll show you a mass in comparison of what what what if we did a three-story building project i'll show you a mass in comparison of what what what if we did a three-story building project i'll show you a mass in comparison of what what what if we did a three-story building with a zero front setback and it in my opinion looks atrocious which would be you know kind of with a zero front setback and it in my opinion looks atrocious which would be you know kind of with a zero front setback and it in my opinion looks atrocious which would be you know kind of with a zero front setback and it in my opinion looks atrocious which would be you know kind of with a zero front setback and it in my opinion looks atrocious which would be you know kind of i don't know what other alternative there is so you'll hear from the architect that this was very i don't know what other alternative there is so you'll hear from the architect that this was very i don't know what other alternative there is so you'll hear from the architect that this was very i don't know what other alternative there is so you'll hear from the architect that this was very i don't know what other alternative there is so you'll hear from the architect that this was very thoughtfully and deliberately designed within code we are not asking for the maximum density the density is thoughtfully and deliberately designed within code we are not asking for the maximum density the density is thoughtfully and deliberately designed within code we are not asking for the maximum density the density is thoughtfully and deliberately designed within code we are not asking for the maximum density the density is thoughtfully and deliberately designed within code we are not asking for the maximum density the density is allowed by right it's 30 units per acre on a 0.21 acre site it's very challenging to fit six units allowed by right it's 30 units per acre on a 0.21 acre site it's very challenging to fit six units allowed by right it's 30 units per acre on a 0.21 acre site it's very challenging to fit six units allowed by right it's 30 units per acre on a 0.21 acre site it's very challenging to fit six units allowed by right it's 30 units per acre on a 0.21 acre site it's very challenging to fit six units on a 0.21 acre site without structured parking and you couldn't possibly do it without going to on a 0.21 acre site without structured parking and you couldn't possibly do it without going to on a 0.21 acre site without structured parking and you couldn't possibly do it without going to on a 0.21 acre site without structured parking and you couldn't possibly do it without going to on a 0.21 acre site without structured parking and you couldn't possibly do it without going to the max height what we've done is we've eliminated a unit we're asking for five units so we are not the max height what we've done is we've eliminated a unit we're asking for five units so we are not the max height what we've done is we've eliminated a unit we're asking for five units so we are not the max height what we've done is we've eliminated a unit we're asking for five units so we are not the max height what we've done is we've eliminated a unit we're asking for five units so we are not asking for the maximum density allowed by right we are also not allowing for the maximum height that you asking for the maximum density allowed by right we are also not allowing for the maximum height that you asking for the maximum density allowed by right we are also not allowing for the maximum height that you asking for the maximum density allowed by right we are also not allowing for the maximum height that you asking for the maximum density allowed by right we are also not allowing for the maximum height that you could approve we could have asked for up to 46 feet we're asking for 42 feet we could get 36 feet could approve we could have asked for up to 46 feet we're asking for 42 feet we could get 36 feet could approve we could have asked for up to 46 feet we're asking for 42 feet we could get 36 feet could approve we could have asked for up to 46 feet we're asking for 42 feet we could get 36 feet could approve we could have asked for up to 46 feet we're asking for 42 feet we could get 36 feet in height without city commission approval so we're asking for six extra feet to accommodate for the in height without city commission approval so we're asking for six extra feet to accommodate for the in height without city commission approval so we're asking for six extra feet to accommodate for the in height without city commission approval so we're asking for six extra feet to accommodate for the in height without city commission approval so we're asking for six extra feet to accommodate for the surface parking essentially that's where it is the the ceiling heights are 10 feet on average so these are surface parking essentially that's where it is the the ceiling heights are 10 feet on average so these are surface parking essentially that's where it is the the ceiling heights are 10 feet on average so these are surface parking essentially that's where it is the the ceiling heights are 10 feet on average so these are surface parking essentially that's where it is the the ceiling heights are 10 feet on average so these are not some insane you know maximize the density maximize the intensity it's make this small constrained site work not some insane you know maximize the density maximize the intensity it's make this small constrained site work not some insane you know maximize the density maximize the intensity it's make this small constrained site work not some insane you know maximize the density maximize the intensity it's make this small constrained site work not some insane you know maximize the density maximize the intensity it's make this small constrained site work within the plan and work within the goals policies and objectives of the city of dunedin and i believe within the plan and work within the goals policies and objectives of the city of dunedin and i believe within the plan and work within the goals policies and objectives of the city of dunedin and i believe within the plan and work within the goals policies and objectives of the city of dunedin and i believe within the plan and work within the goals policies and objectives of the city of dunedin and i believe again respectfully that that is what the lpa and the arc saw and that is why they supported the application again respectfully that that is what the lpa and the arc saw and that is why they supported the application again respectfully that that is what the lpa and the arc saw and that is why they supported the application again respectfully that that is what the lpa and the arc saw and that is why they supported the application again respectfully that that is what the lpa and the arc saw and that is why they supported the application next slide please okay these are the members of the arc you know all of them well because you appoint them next slide please okay these are the members of the arc you know all of them well because you appoint them next slide please okay these are the members of the arc you know all of them well because you appoint them next slide please okay these are the members of the arc you know all of them well because you appoint them next slide please okay these are the members of the arc you know all of them well because you appoint them they are all design professionals they are all either architects some of them are dual architects and they are all design professionals they are all either architects some of them are dual architects and they are all design professionals they are all either architects some of them are dual architects and they are all design professionals they are all either architects some of them are dual architects and they are all design professionals they are all either architects some of them are dual architects and landscape architects and some of them are landscape architects they gave us four recommended landscape architects and some of them are landscape architects they gave us four recommended landscape architects and some of them are landscape architects they gave us four recommended landscape architects and some of them are landscape architects they gave us four recommended landscape architects and some of them are landscape architects they gave us four recommended recommended include things to include in the proper in the project recommended include things to include in the proper in the project recommended include things to include in the proper in the project recommended include things to include in the proper in the project recommended include things to include in the proper in the project but the arc minutes clearly state from june 3rd based on the applicant's compatibility analysis the proposed project but the arc minutes clearly state from june 3rd based on the applicant's compatibility analysis the proposed project but the arc minutes clearly state from june 3rd based on the applicant's compatibility analysis the proposed project but the arc minutes clearly state from june 3rd based on the applicant's compatibility analysis the proposed project but the arc minutes clearly state from june 3rd based on the applicant's compatibility analysis the proposed project is compatible with the surrounding area and recommended approval to the lpa is compatible with the surrounding area and recommended approval to the lpa is compatible with the surrounding area and recommended approval to the lpa is compatible with the surrounding area and recommended approval to the lpa is compatible with the surrounding area and recommended approval to the lpa with these four additional elements additional illustration and architectural expression on the east elevation that's adjacent to the non-conforming with these four additional elements additional illustration and architectural expression on the east elevation that's adjacent to the non-conforming with these four additional elements additional illustration and architectural expression on the east elevation that's adjacent to the non-conforming with these four additional elements additional illustration and architectural expression on the east elevation that's adjacent to the non-conforming with these four additional elements additional illustration and architectural expression on the east elevation that's adjacent to the non-conforming residential home roofing elements to have variable material instead of fiberglass shingle residential home roofing elements to have variable material instead of fiberglass shingle residential home roofing elements to have variable material instead of fiberglass shingle residential home roofing elements to have variable material instead of fiberglass shingle residential home roofing elements to have variable material instead of fiberglass shingle provide additional screening for the parking area and provide an arborist report of the existing trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect provide additional screening for the parking area and provide an arborist report of the existing trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect provide additional screening for the parking area and provide an arborist report of the existing trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect provide additional screening for the parking area and provide an arborist report of the existing trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect provide additional screening for the parking area and provide an arborist report of the existing trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect all of these things were done and completed in august of 2025 unfortunately due to a mix-up on our side all of these things were done and completed in august of 2025 unfortunately due to a mix-up on our side all of these things were done and completed in august of 2025 unfortunately due to a mix-up on our side all of these things were done and completed in august of 2025 unfortunately due to a mix-up on our side all of these things were done and completed in august of 2025 unfortunately due to a mix-up on our side they were not uploaded to the e-permitting system i was not involved with this case in june of 2025 i became involved with it they were not uploaded to the e-permitting system i was not involved with this case in june of 2025 i became involved with it they were not uploaded to the e-permitting system i was not involved with this case in june of 2025 i became involved with it they were not uploaded to the e-permitting system i was not involved with this case in june of 2025 i became involved with it they were not uploaded to the e-permitting system i was not involved with this case in june of 2025 i became involved with it around august and i was unaware that the the newest updated plans had not been uploaded additionally scheduling around august and i was unaware that the the newest updated plans had not been uploaded additionally scheduling around august and i was unaware that the the newest updated plans had not been uploaded additionally scheduling around august and i was unaware that the the newest updated plans had not been uploaded additionally scheduling around august and i was unaware that the the newest updated plans had not been uploaded additionally scheduling the lpa hearing was delayed based on quorum issues i think we were supposed to go to lpa in october we didn't the lpa hearing was delayed based on quorum issues i think we were supposed to go to lpa in october we didn't the lpa hearing was delayed based on quorum issues i think we were supposed to go to lpa in october we didn't the lpa hearing was delayed based on quorum issues i think we were supposed to go to lpa in october we didn't the lpa hearing was delayed based on quorum issues i think we were supposed to go to lpa in october we didn't end up going to lpa until january i didn't realize that those arc compliant plans hadn't been uploaded until i received end up going to lpa until january i didn't realize that those arc compliant plans hadn't been uploaded until i received end up going to lpa until january i didn't realize that those arc compliant plans hadn't been uploaded until i received end up going to lpa until january i didn't realize that those arc compliant plans hadn't been uploaded until i received end up going to lpa until january i didn't realize that those arc compliant plans hadn't been uploaded until i received the staff report for the lpa which was like a day or two before if i had known that we would have gone back to the arc the staff report for the lpa which was like a day or two before if i had known that we would have gone back to the arc the staff report for the lpa which was like a day or two before if i had known that we would have gone back to the arc the staff report for the lpa which was like a day or two before if i had known that we would have gone back to the arc the staff report for the lpa which was like a day or two before if i had known that we would have gone back to the arc if i knew it was important for the city commission after the lpa recommended approval six to one we if i knew it was important for the city commission after the lpa recommended approval six to one we if i knew it was important for the city commission after the lpa recommended approval six to one we if i knew it was important for the city commission after the lpa recommended approval six to one we if i knew it was important for the city commission after the lpa recommended approval six to one we could have gone back to the arc in the two months that we delayed the project but we we voluntarily could have gone back to the arc in the two months that we delayed the project but we we voluntarily could have gone back to the arc in the two months that we delayed the project but we we voluntarily could have gone back to the arc in the two months that we delayed the project but we we voluntarily could have gone back to the arc in the two months that we delayed the project but we we voluntarily delayed the project the request of the city staff because we knew you had other projects that were delayed the project the request of the city staff because we knew you had other projects that were delayed the project the request of the city staff because we knew you had other projects that were delayed the project the request of the city staff because we knew you had other projects that were delayed the project the request of the city staff because we knew you had other projects that were taking precedence that were going to be a long time so we voluntarily did not proceed to the city commission taking precedence that were going to be a long time so we voluntarily did not proceed to the city commission taking precedence that were going to be a long time so we voluntarily did not proceed to the city commission taking precedence that were going to be a long time so we voluntarily did not proceed to the city commission taking precedence that were going to be a long time so we voluntarily did not proceed to the city commission and so this part of the delay is just scheduling and also part of it in terms of scheduling this hearing and so this part of the delay is just scheduling and also part of it in terms of scheduling this hearing and so this part of the delay is just scheduling and also part of it in terms of scheduling this hearing and so this part of the delay is just scheduling and also part of it in terms of scheduling this hearing and so this part of the delay is just scheduling and also part of it in terms of scheduling this hearing was at the request of the city which we were happy to accommodate but again we did meet and comply was at the request of the city which we were happy to accommodate but again we did meet and comply was at the request of the city which we were happy to accommodate but again we did meet and comply was at the request of the city which we were happy to accommodate but again we did meet and comply was at the request of the city which we were happy to accommodate but again we did meet and comply with these conditions next slide please i'll ask our architect tulio zalaga to take you through the next with these conditions next slide please i'll ask our architect tulio zalaga to take you through the next with these conditions next slide please i'll ask our architect tulio zalaga to take you through the next with these conditions next slide please i'll ask our architect tulio zalaga to take you through the next with these conditions next slide please i'll ask our architect tulio zalaga to take you through the next slides showing compliance with the arcs uh recommended conditions good evening my name is tulio zalaga slides showing compliance with the arcs uh recommended conditions good evening my name is tulio zalaga slides showing compliance with the arcs uh recommended conditions good evening my name is tulio zalaga slides showing compliance with the arcs uh recommended conditions good evening my name is tulio zalaga slides showing compliance with the arcs uh recommended conditions good evening my name is tulio zalaga
2953 robinwood lane in palm harbor i just want to make sure you can be heard yeah thank you 2953 robinwood lane in palm harbor i just want to make sure you can be heard yeah thank you 2953 robinwood lane in palm harbor i just want to make sure you can be heard yeah thank you 2953 robinwood lane in palm harbor i just want to make sure you can be heard yeah thank you 2953 robinwood lane in palm harbor i just want to make sure you can be heard yeah thank you um one of the items that the arc commented on was on the fenestration and level of details for um one of the items that the arc commented on was on the fenestration and level of details for um one of the items that the arc commented on was on the fenestration and level of details for um one of the items that the arc commented on was on the fenestration and level of details for um one of the items that the arc commented on was on the fenestration and level of details for the east elevation and we did those revisions and as brian mentioned those got uh got not uploaded on time the east elevation and we did those revisions and as brian mentioned those got uh got not uploaded on time the east elevation and we did those revisions and as brian mentioned those got uh got not uploaded on time the east elevation and we did those revisions and as brian mentioned those got uh got not uploaded on time the east elevation and we did those revisions and as brian mentioned those got uh got not uploaded on time so but those were taken care of and also there was a an error mistype on the type of roofing which we so but those were taken care of and also there was a an error mistype on the type of roofing which we so but those were taken care of and also there was a an error mistype on the type of roofing which we so but those were taken care of and also there was a an error mistype on the type of roofing which we so but those were taken care of and also there was a an error mistype on the type of roofing which we correct the two and um yeah that's a highlight of the correction of the label of the roof material correct the two and um yeah that's a highlight of the correction of the label of the roof material correct the two and um yeah that's a highlight of the correction of the label of the roof material correct the two and um yeah that's a highlight of the correction of the label of the roof material correct the two and um yeah that's a highlight of the correction of the label of the roof material and then also we added the screening of the parking lot which um uh was the the other request uh that's and then also we added the screening of the parking lot which um uh was the the other request uh that's and then also we added the screening of the parking lot which um uh was the the other request uh that's and then also we added the screening of the parking lot which um uh was the the other request uh that's and then also we added the screening of the parking lot which um uh was the the other request uh that's a very tight side and there's a lot of vegetation now shown on the rendering uh but regardless we added a very tight side and there's a lot of vegetation now shown on the rendering uh but regardless we added a very tight side and there's a lot of vegetation now shown on the rendering uh but regardless we added a very tight side and there's a lot of vegetation now shown on the rendering uh but regardless we added a very tight side and there's a lot of vegetation now shown on the rendering uh but regardless we added those screening um so um it is um it is a fact that we corrected those four and um and the graphics and those screening um so um it is um it is a fact that we corrected those four and um and the graphics and those screening um so um it is um it is a fact that we corrected those four and um and the graphics and those screening um so um it is um it is a fact that we corrected those four and um and the graphics and those screening um so um it is um it is a fact that we corrected those four and um and the graphics and the rendering shows those thank you julio i'm gonna ask julio to come back in a couple minutes to talk the rendering shows those thank you julio i'm gonna ask julio to come back in a couple minutes to talk the rendering shows those thank you julio i'm gonna ask julio to come back in a couple minutes to talk the rendering shows those thank you julio i'm gonna ask julio to come back in a couple minutes to talk the rendering shows those thank you julio i'm gonna ask julio to come back in a couple minutes to talk
about the massing um and he'll definitely be here to answer any questions that you have next slide please about the massing um and he'll definitely be here to answer any questions that you have next slide please about the massing um and he'll definitely be here to answer any questions that you have next slide please about the massing um and he'll definitely be here to answer any questions that you have next slide please about the massing um and he'll definitely be here to answer any questions that you have next slide please this is the arborist report that was provided um at the request of the arc to provide the existing this is the arborist report that was provided um at the request of the arc to provide the existing this is the arborist report that was provided um at the request of the arc to provide the existing this is the arborist report that was provided um at the request of the arc to provide the existing this is the arborist report that was provided um at the request of the arc to provide the existing trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect as you know the arc is very they are trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect as you know the arc is very they are trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect as you know the arc is very they are trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect as you know the arc is very they are trees and a full landscape plan drawn by a landscape architect as you know the arc is very they are very cognizant of landscaping and they felt like these were the things that needed to be done to very cognizant of landscaping and they felt like these were the things that needed to be done to very cognizant of landscaping and they felt like these were the things that needed to be done to very cognizant of landscaping and they felt like these were the things that needed to be done to very cognizant of landscaping and they felt like these were the things that needed to be done to recommend approval to the lpa and when this evidence was was presented to the lpa the lpa determined that recommend approval to the lpa and when this evidence was was presented to the lpa the lpa determined that recommend approval to the lpa and when this evidence was was presented to the lpa the lpa determined that recommend approval to the lpa and when this evidence was was presented to the lpa the lpa determined that recommend approval to the lpa and when this evidence was was presented to the lpa the lpa determined that these conditions had been met and was sufficient to move forward to the commission which is why these conditions had been met and was sufficient to move forward to the commission which is why these conditions had been met and was sufficient to move forward to the commission which is why these conditions had been met and was sufficient to move forward to the commission which is why these conditions had been met and was sufficient to move forward to the commission which is why we didn't think it would be necessary to go back to the arc especially after we didn't think it would be necessary to go back to the arc especially after we didn't think it would be necessary to go back to the arc especially after we didn't think it would be necessary to go back to the arc especially after we didn't think it would be necessary to go back to the arc especially after uh not a full year but nine months since the last since the last arc uh hearing uh next slide please uh not a full year but nine months since the last since the last arc uh hearing uh next slide please uh not a full year but nine months since the last since the last arc uh hearing uh next slide please uh not a full year but nine months since the last since the last arc uh hearing uh next slide please uh not a full year but nine months since the last since the last arc uh hearing uh next slide please um so the local planning agency again you are very familiar with the lpa uh you you uh appoint them as um so the local planning agency again you are very familiar with the lpa uh you you uh appoint them as um so the local planning agency again you are very familiar with the lpa uh you you uh appoint them as um so the local planning agency again you are very familiar with the lpa uh you you uh appoint them as um so the local planning agency again you are very familiar with the lpa uh you you uh appoint them as well um they found overwhelmingly and the january 14th hearing that uh the the application does meet the well um they found overwhelmingly and the january 14th hearing that uh the the application does meet the well um they found overwhelmingly and the january 14th hearing that uh the the application does meet the well um they found overwhelmingly and the january 14th hearing that uh the the application does meet the well um they found overwhelmingly and the january 14th hearing that uh the the application does meet the conditions noted at arc and recommended approval of the design review of the project with the below conditions noted at arc and recommended approval of the design review of the project with the below conditions noted at arc and recommended approval of the design review of the project with the below conditions noted at arc and recommended approval of the design review of the project with the below conditions noted at arc and recommended approval of the design review of the project with the below conditions expand capacity of stormwater holding system to maximum capacity that is because the conditions expand capacity of stormwater holding system to maximum capacity that is because the conditions expand capacity of stormwater holding system to maximum capacity that is because the conditions expand capacity of stormwater holding system to maximum capacity that is because the conditions expand capacity of stormwater holding system to maximum capacity that is because the majority of the complaints that were made or the concerns i want to say concerns the majority of the majority of the complaints that were made or the concerns i want to say concerns the majority of the majority of the complaints that were made or the concerns i want to say concerns the majority of the majority of the complaints that were made or the concerns i want to say concerns the majority of the majority of the complaints that were made or the concerns i want to say concerns the majority of the concerns that were made by especially the residents on palmetto were regarding the existing conditions concerns that were made by especially the residents on palmetto were regarding the existing conditions concerns that were made by especially the residents on palmetto were regarding the existing conditions concerns that were made by especially the residents on palmetto were regarding the existing conditions concerns that were made by especially the residents on palmetto were regarding the existing conditions on the site and the 36 foot tall building to the rear which flood their properties vice chair stanick on the site and the 36 foot tall building to the rear which flood their properties vice chair stanick on the site and the 36 foot tall building to the rear which flood their properties vice chair stanick on the site and the 36 foot tall building to the rear which flood their properties vice chair stanick on the site and the 36 foot tall building to the rear which flood their properties vice chair stanick said he referred to it instead of a drainage ditch out on site right now he referred to it as a drainage said he referred to it instead of a drainage ditch out on site right now he referred to it as a drainage said he referred to it instead of a drainage ditch out on site right now he referred to it as a drainage said he referred to it instead of a drainage ditch out on site right now he referred to it as a drainage said he referred to it instead of a drainage ditch out on site right now he referred to it as a drainage hole it doesn't drain anything it does it is completely non-conforming with stormwater and drainage hole it doesn't drain anything it does it is completely non-conforming with stormwater and drainage hole it doesn't drain anything it does it is completely non-conforming with stormwater and drainage hole it doesn't drain anything it does it is completely non-conforming with stormwater and drainage hole it doesn't drain anything it does it is completely non-conforming with stormwater and drainage and it is definitely injurious to the neighboring properties next slide please we have designed a stormwater and it is definitely injurious to the neighboring properties next slide please we have designed a stormwater and it is definitely injurious to the neighboring properties next slide please we have designed a stormwater and it is definitely injurious to the neighboring properties next slide please we have designed a stormwater and it is definitely injurious to the neighboring properties next slide please we have designed a stormwater vault and increased and maximized the size of that underground vault to completely retain all stormwater vault and increased and maximized the size of that underground vault to completely retain all stormwater vault and increased and maximized the size of that underground vault to completely retain all stormwater vault and increased and maximized the size of that underground vault to completely retain all stormwater vault and increased and maximized the size of that underground vault to completely retain all stormwater water runoff not just from this property but also from the three-story residential condo in the rear which water runoff not just from this property but also from the three-story residential condo in the rear which water runoff not just from this property but also from the three-story residential condo in the rear which water runoff not just from this property but also from the three-story residential condo in the rear which water runoff not just from this property but also from the three-story residential condo in the rear which is currently flooding the property behind it we will completely uh treat and retain that water on site is currently flooding the property behind it we will completely uh treat and retain that water on site is currently flooding the property behind it we will completely uh treat and retain that water on site is currently flooding the property behind it we will completely uh treat and retain that water on site is currently flooding the property behind it we will completely uh treat and retain that water on site and that was done at the request and the recommendation of the lpa and that was done you know in a really and that was done at the request and the recommendation of the lpa and that was done you know in a really and that was done at the request and the recommendation of the lpa and that was done you know in a really and that was done at the request and the recommendation of the lpa and that was done you know in a really and that was done at the request and the recommendation of the lpa and that was done you know in a really neighborly good faith effort to try to address the valid concerns of the single family neighbors neighborly good faith effort to try to address the valid concerns of the single family neighbors neighborly good faith effort to try to address the valid concerns of the single family neighbors neighborly good faith effort to try to address the valid concerns of the single family neighbors neighborly good faith effort to try to address the valid concerns of the single family neighbors to the north about that property that was permitted in the 80s that's no longer conforming that has to the north about that property that was permitted in the 80s that's no longer conforming that has to the north about that property that was permitted in the 80s that's no longer conforming that has to the north about that property that was permitted in the 80s that's no longer conforming that has to the north about that property that was permitted in the 80s that's no longer conforming that has surface parking that you know you could never design a property like that under under your current code surface parking that you know you could never design a property like that under under your current code surface parking that you know you could never design a property like that under under your current code surface parking that you know you could never design a property like that under under your current code surface parking that you know you could never design a property like that under under your current code nor should you be able to nor would it get swift mud approval or fd fdot approval and so what we're nor should you be able to nor would it get swift mud approval or fd fdot approval and so what we're nor should you be able to nor would it get swift mud approval or fd fdot approval and so what we're nor should you be able to nor would it get swift mud approval or fd fdot approval and so what we're nor should you be able to nor would it get swift mud approval or fd fdot approval and so what we're doing is we're correcting that non-conforming problem to the property to the rear for the benefit of all of the doing is we're correcting that non-conforming problem to the property to the rear for the benefit of all of the doing is we're correcting that non-conforming problem to the property to the rear for the benefit of all of the doing is we're correcting that non-conforming problem to the property to the rear for the benefit of all of the doing is we're correcting that non-conforming problem to the property to the rear for the benefit of all of the abutting properties so in our view this project is exceptional because it treats that problem it abutting properties so in our view this project is exceptional because it treats that problem it abutting properties so in our view this project is exceptional because it treats that problem it abutting properties so in our view this project is exceptional because it treats that problem it abutting properties so in our view this project is exceptional because it treats that problem it solves that problem and so all we're doing is asking you to instead of stepping it back above two floors solves that problem and so all we're doing is asking you to instead of stepping it back above two floors solves that problem and so all we're doing is asking you to instead of stepping it back above two floors solves that problem and so all we're doing is asking you to instead of stepping it back above two floors solves that problem and so all we're doing is asking you to instead of stepping it back above two floors and putting it a zero setback to skinner allow us to set the whole building back 10 feet and get six and putting it a zero setback to skinner allow us to set the whole building back 10 feet and get six and putting it a zero setback to skinner allow us to set the whole building back 10 feet and get six and putting it a zero setback to skinner allow us to set the whole building back 10 feet and get six and putting it a zero setback to skinner allow us to set the whole building back 10 feet and get six additional feet of height so we can get that parking in there so we get that parking in there next slide additional feet of height so we can get that parking in there so we get that parking in there next slide additional feet of height so we can get that parking in there so we get that parking in there next slide additional feet of height so we can get that parking in there so we get that parking in there next slide additional feet of height so we can get that parking in there so we get that parking in there next slide please okay this is the massing study this shows what's proposed of course these are not the actual please okay this is the massing study this shows what's proposed of course these are not the actual please okay this is the massing study this shows what's proposed of course these are not the actual please okay this is the massing study this shows what's proposed of course these are not the actual please okay this is the massing study this shows what's proposed of course these are not the actual colors okay this is like this is like a gray scale i want to make sure we were we were aware of that colors okay this is like this is like a gray scale i want to make sure we were we were aware of that colors okay this is like this is like a gray scale i want to make sure we were we were aware of that colors okay this is like this is like a gray scale i want to make sure we were we were aware of that colors okay this is like this is like a gray scale i want to make sure we were we were aware of that or maybe halloween decorations i don't know but uh tulia if you'd want to come back up uh and walk or maybe halloween decorations i don't know but uh tulia if you'd want to come back up uh and walk or maybe halloween decorations i don't know but uh tulia if you'd want to come back up uh and walk or maybe halloween decorations i don't know but uh tulia if you'd want to come back up uh and walk or maybe halloween decorations i don't know but uh tulia if you'd want to come back up uh and walk through this part again there's also public a public art element to this project so because we've asked through this part again there's also public a public art element to this project so because we've asked through this part again there's also public a public art element to this project so because we've asked through this part again there's also public a public art element to this project so because we've asked through this part again there's also public a public art element to this project so because we've asked for this commission's approval we are subject to the park uh the park impact fee which is 39 almost for this commission's approval we are subject to the park uh the park impact fee which is 39 almost for this commission's approval we are subject to the park uh the park impact fee which is 39 almost for this commission's approval we are subject to the park uh the park impact fee which is 39 almost for this commission's approval we are subject to the park uh the park impact fee which is 39 almost forty thousand dollars thirty nine thousand eight hundred dollars and we're also subject to the public art forty thousand dollars thirty nine thousand eight hundred dollars and we're also subject to the public art forty thousand dollars thirty nine thousand eight hundred dollars and we're also subject to the public art forty thousand dollars thirty nine thousand eight hundred dollars and we're also subject to the public art forty thousand dollars thirty nine thousand eight hundred dollars and we're also subject to the public art uh requirement we've already retained a local artist for the design and installation of that uh requirement we've already retained a local artist for the design and installation of that uh requirement we've already retained a local artist for the design and installation of that uh requirement we've already retained a local artist for the design and installation of that uh requirement we've already retained a local artist for the design and installation of that public art and that was at a cost of eighteen thousand five hundred dollars so a total impact public art and that was at a cost of eighteen thousand five hundred dollars so a total impact public art and that was at a cost of eighteen thousand five hundred dollars so a total impact public art and that was at a cost of eighteen thousand five hundred dollars so a total impact public art and that was at a cost of eighteen thousand five hundred dollars so a total impact fee of around fifty seven thousand dollars uh for the consideration of the approval of these requests fee of around fifty seven thousand dollars uh for the consideration of the approval of these requests fee of around fifty seven thousand dollars uh for the consideration of the approval of these requests fee of around fifty seven thousand dollars uh for the consideration of the approval of these requests fee of around fifty seven thousand dollars uh for the consideration of the approval of these requests julio you want to address this please and when you're ready to show the massing just ask mr kenny to julio you want to address this please and when you're ready to show the massing just ask mr kenny to julio you want to address this please and when you're ready to show the massing just ask mr kenny to julio you want to address this please and when you're ready to show the massing just ask mr kenny to julio you want to address this please and when you're ready to show the massing just ask mr kenny to
move to the next slide please okay all right so this is uh as brian mentioned this is just a move to the next slide please okay all right so this is uh as brian mentioned this is just a move to the next slide please okay all right so this is uh as brian mentioned this is just a move to the next slide please okay all right so this is uh as brian mentioned this is just a move to the next slide please okay all right so this is uh as brian mentioned this is just a uh rendering regenerated by our software which doesn't show the proper colors uh but um and here um uh rendering regenerated by our software which doesn't show the proper colors uh but um and here um uh rendering regenerated by our software which doesn't show the proper colors uh but um and here um uh rendering regenerated by our software which doesn't show the proper colors uh but um and here um uh rendering regenerated by our software which doesn't show the proper colors uh but um and here um uh we're showing the the the ten foot setback to allow for the uh art piece uh but also to maximize the uh we're showing the the the ten foot setback to allow for the uh art piece uh but also to maximize the uh we're showing the the the ten foot setback to allow for the uh art piece uh but also to maximize the uh we're showing the the the ten foot setback to allow for the uh art piece uh but also to maximize the uh we're showing the the the ten foot setback to allow for the uh art piece uh but also to maximize the step back that it is required on the um on the regulations uh in the next slide uh we show what we could have done step back that it is required on the um on the regulations uh in the next slide uh we show what we could have done step back that it is required on the um on the regulations uh in the next slide uh we show what we could have done step back that it is required on the um on the regulations uh in the next slide uh we show what we could have done step back that it is required on the um on the regulations uh in the next slide uh we show what we could have done within the regulations which is a zero setback and then a ten foot setback for the um uh the next two within the regulations which is a zero setback and then a ten foot setback for the um uh the next two within the regulations which is a zero setback and then a ten foot setback for the um uh the next two within the regulations which is a zero setback and then a ten foot setback for the um uh the next two within the regulations which is a zero setback and then a ten foot setback for the um uh the next two
floors yeah and tulio could you describe to the commission i mean obviously as a as an architect floors yeah and tulio could you describe to the commission i mean obviously as a as an architect floors yeah and tulio could you describe to the commission i mean obviously as a as an architect floors yeah and tulio could you describe to the commission i mean obviously as a as an architect floors yeah and tulio could you describe to the commission i mean obviously as a as an architect professional you you are interpreting and reading the code and the design requirements faithfully in professional you you are interpreting and reading the code and the design requirements faithfully in professional you you are interpreting and reading the code and the design requirements faithfully in professional you you are interpreting and reading the code and the design requirements faithfully in professional you you are interpreting and reading the code and the design requirements faithfully in order to get the reasonable use of the site if you had to comply with the zero front setback and then do the order to get the reasonable use of the site if you had to comply with the zero front setback and then do the order to get the reasonable use of the site if you had to comply with the zero front setback and then do the order to get the reasonable use of the site if you had to comply with the zero front setback and then do the order to get the reasonable use of the site if you had to comply with the zero front setback and then do the step backs to above the second floor what impact would that have on the project on the parking on step backs to above the second floor what impact would that have on the project on the parking on step backs to above the second floor what impact would that have on the project on the parking on step backs to above the second floor what impact would that have on the project on the parking on step backs to above the second floor what impact would that have on the project on the parking on the storm water on the impervious surface is that a feasible design is that even doable in your opinion the storm water on the impervious surface is that a feasible design is that even doable in your opinion the storm water on the impervious surface is that a feasible design is that even doable in your opinion the storm water on the impervious surface is that a feasible design is that even doable in your opinion the storm water on the impervious surface is that a feasible design is that even doable in your opinion
no uh i think there were other considerations um um aside from the need of this green space no uh i think there were other considerations um um aside from the need of this green space no uh i think there were other considerations um um aside from the need of this green space no uh i think there were other considerations um um aside from the need of this green space no uh i think there were other considerations um um aside from the need of this green space because it's a very tight site uh for landscaping and for the art piece but also uh to respect the because it's a very tight site uh for landscaping and for the art piece but also uh to respect the because it's a very tight site uh for landscaping and for the art piece but also uh to respect the because it's a very tight site uh for landscaping and for the art piece but also uh to respect the because it's a very tight site uh for landscaping and for the art piece but also uh to respect the the request from the city about uh their concern on the uh vehicles um accessing the building and having the request from the city about uh their concern on the uh vehicles um accessing the building and having the request from the city about uh their concern on the uh vehicles um accessing the building and having the request from the city about uh their concern on the uh vehicles um accessing the building and having the request from the city about uh their concern on the uh vehicles um accessing the building and having to um to to be encroaching into this uh the sidewalk obviously here to answer any questions he's not going to um to to be encroaching into this uh the sidewalk obviously here to answer any questions he's not going to um to to be encroaching into this uh the sidewalk obviously here to answer any questions he's not going to um to to be encroaching into this uh the sidewalk obviously here to answer any questions he's not going to um to to be encroaching into this uh the sidewalk obviously here to answer any questions he's not going
anywhere uh next slide please i'll try to get through the rest of this very quickly mayor uh so now we're anywhere uh next slide please i'll try to get through the rest of this very quickly mayor uh so now we're anywhere uh next slide please i'll try to get through the rest of this very quickly mayor uh so now we're anywhere uh next slide please i'll try to get through the rest of this very quickly mayor uh so now we're anywhere uh next slide please i'll try to get through the rest of this very quickly mayor uh so now we're going to talk about the compatibility and and our compatibility analysis and one of the things i want to going to talk about the compatibility and and our compatibility analysis and one of the things i want to going to talk about the compatibility and and our compatibility analysis and one of the things i want to going to talk about the compatibility and and our compatibility analysis and one of the things i want to going to talk about the compatibility and and our compatibility analysis and one of the things i want to point out is you can't only judge compatibility based on non-conforming parcels or else you'll never point out is you can't only judge compatibility based on non-conforming parcels or else you'll never point out is you can't only judge compatibility based on non-conforming parcels or else you'll never point out is you can't only judge compatibility based on non-conforming parcels or else you'll never point out is you can't only judge compatibility based on non-conforming parcels or else you'll never get redevelopment you have to judge redevelopment based on the quality of the redevelopment whether get redevelopment you have to judge redevelopment based on the quality of the redevelopment whether get redevelopment you have to judge redevelopment based on the quality of the redevelopment whether get redevelopment you have to judge redevelopment based on the quality of the redevelopment whether get redevelopment you have to judge redevelopment based on the quality of the redevelopment whether it's sustainable whether it's resilient this project has a 105 score on the sustainability matrix it provides it's sustainable whether it's resilient this project has a 105 score on the sustainability matrix it provides it's sustainable whether it's resilient this project has a 105 score on the sustainability matrix it provides it's sustainable whether it's resilient this project has a 105 score on the sustainability matrix it provides it's sustainable whether it's resilient this project has a 105 score on the sustainability matrix it provides solar panel roofing it is again a very thoughtfully designed project this wasn't just some developer who solar panel roofing it is again a very thoughtfully designed project this wasn't just some developer who solar panel roofing it is again a very thoughtfully designed project this wasn't just some developer who solar panel roofing it is again a very thoughtfully designed project this wasn't just some developer who solar panel roofing it is again a very thoughtfully designed project this wasn't just some developer who came in for the max and maximize value um this was thoughtfully designed uh next slide please uh okay came in for the max and maximize value um this was thoughtfully designed uh next slide please uh okay came in for the max and maximize value um this was thoughtfully designed uh next slide please uh okay came in for the max and maximize value um this was thoughtfully designed uh next slide please uh okay came in for the max and maximize value um this was thoughtfully designed uh next slide please uh okay you're familiar with this slide mr kinney showed it several multi-family buildings that are you know 36 you're familiar with this slide mr kinney showed it several multi-family buildings that are you know 36 you're familiar with this slide mr kinney showed it several multi-family buildings that are you know 36 you're familiar with this slide mr kinney showed it several multi-family buildings that are you know 36 you're familiar with this slide mr kinney showed it several multi-family buildings that are you know 36 feet etc next slide please within 500 feet which is the standard of uh of objective 2.9 so the compatibility feet etc next slide please within 500 feet which is the standard of uh of objective 2.9 so the compatibility feet etc next slide please within 500 feet which is the standard of uh of objective 2.9 so the compatibility feet etc next slide please within 500 feet which is the standard of uh of objective 2.9 so the compatibility feet etc next slide please within 500 feet which is the standard of uh of objective 2.9 so the compatibility is within 500 feet well within 270 yards you have the artisan you have the new douglas parking garage that is within 500 feet well within 270 yards you have the artisan you have the new douglas parking garage that is within 500 feet well within 270 yards you have the artisan you have the new douglas parking garage that is within 500 feet well within 270 yards you have the artisan you have the new douglas parking garage that is within 500 feet well within 270 yards you have the artisan you have the new douglas parking garage that was approved that is being constructed you have several uh larger multi-family buildings now if was approved that is being constructed you have several uh larger multi-family buildings now if was approved that is being constructed you have several uh larger multi-family buildings now if was approved that is being constructed you have several uh larger multi-family buildings now if was approved that is being constructed you have several uh larger multi-family buildings now if this site was 0.9 acres or one acre or two acres like some of these other sites were we probably could this site was 0.9 acres or one acre or two acres like some of these other sites were we probably could this site was 0.9 acres or one acre or two acres like some of these other sites were we probably could this site was 0.9 acres or one acre or two acres like some of these other sites were we probably could this site was 0.9 acres or one acre or two acres like some of these other sites were we probably could go to 36 stories because we could fit the units in in a way that makes sense and we could also fit the go to 36 stories because we could fit the units in in a way that makes sense and we could also fit the go to 36 stories because we could fit the units in in a way that makes sense and we could also fit the go to 36 stories because we could fit the units in in a way that makes sense and we could also fit the go to 36 stories because we could fit the units in in a way that makes sense and we could also fit the structured parking in but because it's 2.18.21 acres we cannot fit those units in uh even with 10 foot structured parking in but because it's 2.18.21 acres we cannot fit those units in uh even with 10 foot structured parking in but because it's 2.18.21 acres we cannot fit those units in uh even with 10 foot structured parking in but because it's 2.18.21 acres we cannot fit those units in uh even with 10 foot structured parking in but because it's 2.18.21 acres we cannot fit those units in uh even with 10 foot ceilings and we cannot fit that parking in without going that extra six feet in height next slide please ceilings and we cannot fit that parking in without going that extra six feet in height next slide please ceilings and we cannot fit that parking in without going that extra six feet in height next slide please ceilings and we cannot fit that parking in without going that extra six feet in height next slide please ceilings and we cannot fit that parking in without going that extra six feet in height next slide please as you know uh recently approved the main street exchange project that is a max of 46 feet in as you know uh recently approved the main street exchange project that is a max of 46 feet in as you know uh recently approved the main street exchange project that is a max of 46 feet in as you know uh recently approved the main street exchange project that is a max of 46 feet in as you know uh recently approved the main street exchange project that is a max of 46 feet in height and that was subject to the same compatibility uh analysis uh contained in objective 2.9 and that height and that was subject to the same compatibility uh analysis uh contained in objective 2.9 and that height and that was subject to the same compatibility uh analysis uh contained in objective 2.9 and that height and that was subject to the same compatibility uh analysis uh contained in objective 2.9 and that height and that was subject to the same compatibility uh analysis uh contained in objective 2.9 and that was also recommended for approval by the lpa and by the arc after several meetings next slide please and was also recommended for approval by the lpa and by the arc after several meetings next slide please and was also recommended for approval by the lpa and by the arc after several meetings next slide please and was also recommended for approval by the lpa and by the arc after several meetings next slide please and was also recommended for approval by the lpa and by the arc after several meetings next slide please and again the uh the douglas parking garage that is at 46 feet in height and that is literally just across again the uh the douglas parking garage that is at 46 feet in height and that is literally just across again the uh the douglas parking garage that is at 46 feet in height and that is literally just across again the uh the douglas parking garage that is at 46 feet in height and that is literally just across again the uh the douglas parking garage that is at 46 feet in height and that is literally just across the street catty corner from this site so we have to include that in our compatibility because it's the street catty corner from this site so we have to include that in our compatibility because it's the street catty corner from this site so we have to include that in our compatibility because it's the street catty corner from this site so we have to include that in our compatibility because it's the street catty corner from this site so we have to include that in our compatibility because it's something that's happening we know that there's going to be a 46 foot tall parking garage there something that's happening we know that there's going to be a 46 foot tall parking garage there something that's happening we know that there's going to be a 46 foot tall parking garage there something that's happening we know that there's going to be a 46 foot tall parking garage there something that's happening we know that there's going to be a 46 foot tall parking garage there and we know it's directly adjacent to cafe racer which is a very small low intense property so again and we know it's directly adjacent to cafe racer which is a very small low intense property so again and we know it's directly adjacent to cafe racer which is a very small low intense property so again and we know it's directly adjacent to cafe racer which is a very small low intense property so again and we know it's directly adjacent to cafe racer which is a very small low intense property so again the compatibility analysis in our view should be applied uniformly and we think it's only fair to the compatibility analysis in our view should be applied uniformly and we think it's only fair to the compatibility analysis in our view should be applied uniformly and we think it's only fair to the compatibility analysis in our view should be applied uniformly and we think it's only fair to the compatibility analysis in our view should be applied uniformly and we think it's only fair to comply to apply those examples in the compatibility analysis next slide please and again this project comply to apply those examples in the compatibility analysis next slide please and again this project comply to apply those examples in the compatibility analysis next slide please and again this project comply to apply those examples in the compatibility analysis next slide please and again this project comply to apply those examples in the compatibility analysis next slide please and again this project was something we were all for i'm an attorney for the pinellas county housing authority so we were very was something we were all for i'm an attorney for the pinellas county housing authority so we were very was something we were all for i'm an attorney for the pinellas county housing authority so we were very was something we were all for i'm an attorney for the pinellas county housing authority so we were very was something we were all for i'm an attorney for the pinellas county housing authority so we were very excited to partner with uh with bob in this project um but again this is a project that was approved at excited to partner with uh with bob in this project um but again this is a project that was approved at excited to partner with uh with bob in this project um but again this is a project that was approved at excited to partner with uh with bob in this project um but again this is a project that was approved at excited to partner with uh with bob in this project um but again this is a project that was approved at 43 feet in height despite being a large parcel and directly adjacent to the e to the west with single 43 feet in height despite being a large parcel and directly adjacent to the e to the west with single 43 feet in height despite being a large parcel and directly adjacent to the e to the west with single 43 feet in height despite being a large parcel and directly adjacent to the e to the west with single 43 feet in height despite being a large parcel and directly adjacent to the e to the west with single family homes and no other buildings that are really 43 feet in height uh nearby so again again the cat family homes and no other buildings that are really 43 feet in height uh nearby so again again the cat family homes and no other buildings that are really 43 feet in height uh nearby so again again the cat family homes and no other buildings that are really 43 feet in height uh nearby so again again the cat family homes and no other buildings that are really 43 feet in height uh nearby so again again the cat compatibility requirement of objective 2.9 we think should be applied consistently and we believe we are compatibility requirement of objective 2.9 we think should be applied consistently and we believe we are compatibility requirement of objective 2.9 we think should be applied consistently and we believe we are compatibility requirement of objective 2.9 we think should be applied consistently and we believe we are compatibility requirement of objective 2.9 we think should be applied consistently and we believe we are applying it consistently we believe the lpa and the arc also applied it consistently next slide please these are just applying it consistently we believe the lpa and the arc also applied it consistently next slide please these are just applying it consistently we believe the lpa and the arc also applied it consistently next slide please these are just applying it consistently we believe the lpa and the arc also applied it consistently next slide please these are just applying it consistently we believe the lpa and the arc also applied it consistently next slide please these are just the floor plans i'm just going to go through that's the garage next slide that's the first floor the the floor plans i'm just going to go through that's the garage next slide that's the first floor the the floor plans i'm just going to go through that's the garage next slide that's the first floor the the floor plans i'm just going to go through that's the garage next slide that's the first floor the the floor plans i'm just going to go through that's the garage next slide that's the first floor the first occupiable floor that's the second floor and that's the third floor so this is to demonstrate first occupiable floor that's the second floor and that's the third floor so this is to demonstrate first occupiable floor that's the second floor and that's the third floor so this is to demonstrate first occupiable floor that's the second floor and that's the third floor so this is to demonstrate first occupiable floor that's the second floor and that's the third floor so this is to demonstrate this is a three-story building over parking next slide please all right so uh this is what mayor this is a three-story building over parking next slide please all right so uh this is what mayor this is a three-story building over parking next slide please all right so uh this is what mayor this is a three-story building over parking next slide please all right so uh this is what mayor this is a three-story building over parking next slide please all right so uh this is what mayor freeney was asking about or discussing regarding what is it in the code that allows you to go freeney was asking about or discussing regarding what is it in the code that allows you to go freeney was asking about or discussing regarding what is it in the code that allows you to go freeney was asking about or discussing regarding what is it in the code that allows you to go freeney was asking about or discussing regarding what is it in the code that allows you to go up to 46 feet with commission approval and these are the elements the architectural articulation which up to 46 feet with commission approval and these are the elements the architectural articulation which up to 46 feet with commission approval and these are the elements the architectural articulation which up to 46 feet with commission approval and these are the elements the architectural articulation which up to 46 feet with commission approval and these are the elements the architectural articulation which mr zalago explained and addressed and why we chose to step the entire building back 10 feet as opposed mr zalago explained and addressed and why we chose to step the entire building back 10 feet as opposed mr zalago explained and addressed and why we chose to step the entire building back 10 feet as opposed mr zalago explained and addressed and why we chose to step the entire building back 10 feet as opposed mr zalago explained and addressed and why we chose to step the entire building back 10 feet as opposed to sorry set it back 10 feet as opposed to step it back over the second floor with a zero foot setback to sorry set it back 10 feet as opposed to step it back over the second floor with a zero foot setback to sorry set it back 10 feet as opposed to step it back over the second floor with a zero foot setback to sorry set it back 10 feet as opposed to step it back over the second floor with a zero foot setback to sorry set it back 10 feet as opposed to step it back over the second floor with a zero foot setback integrated public benefits green building initiatives which we've included the solar integrated public benefits green building initiatives which we've included the solar integrated public benefits green building initiatives which we've included the solar integrated public benefits green building initiatives which we've included the solar integrated public benefits green building initiatives which we've included the solar the public art enhanced street streetscaping treatments and we also provided bicycle parking and the public art enhanced street streetscaping treatments and we also provided bicycle parking and the public art enhanced street streetscaping treatments and we also provided bicycle parking and the public art enhanced street streetscaping treatments and we also provided bicycle parking and the public art enhanced street streetscaping treatments and we also provided bicycle parking and bicycle accommodations existing setbacks we have exceeded all of the required setbacks bicycle accommodations existing setbacks we have exceeded all of the required setbacks bicycle accommodations existing setbacks we have exceeded all of the required setbacks bicycle accommodations existing setbacks we have exceeded all of the required setbacks bicycle accommodations existing setbacks we have exceeded all of the required setbacks uh and then the uh imposing setback may detract yeah so again we believe the architectural features uh and then the uh imposing setback may detract yeah so again we believe the architectural features uh and then the uh imposing setback may detract yeah so again we believe the architectural features uh and then the uh imposing setback may detract yeah so again we believe the architectural features uh and then the uh imposing setback may detract yeah so again we believe the architectural features
here and the entire 10 foot setback meets that requirement for the 10 foot step back waiver next here and the entire 10 foot setback meets that requirement for the 10 foot step back waiver next here and the entire 10 foot setback meets that requirement for the 10 foot step back waiver next here and the entire 10 foot setback meets that requirement for the 10 foot step back waiver next here and the entire 10 foot setback meets that requirement for the 10 foot step back waiver next
slide please all right and so the approval of this request will allow the applicant to move forward with slide please all right and so the approval of this request will allow the applicant to move forward with slide please all right and so the approval of this request will allow the applicant to move forward with slide please all right and so the approval of this request will allow the applicant to move forward with slide please all right and so the approval of this request will allow the applicant to move forward with the development of five new townhomes which will benefit the area by introducing new residents right next the development of five new townhomes which will benefit the area by introducing new residents right next the development of five new townhomes which will benefit the area by introducing new residents right next the development of five new townhomes which will benefit the area by introducing new residents right next the development of five new townhomes which will benefit the area by introducing new residents right next to downtown dunedin it will also be a generator of revenue for the cra with a high quality residential to downtown dunedin it will also be a generator of revenue for the cra with a high quality residential to downtown dunedin it will also be a generator of revenue for the cra with a high quality residential to downtown dunedin it will also be a generator of revenue for the cra with a high quality residential to downtown dunedin it will also be a generator of revenue for the cra with a high quality residential product that again the lpa hoped would be a catalyst for redevelopment of skinner consistent with product that again the lpa hoped would be a catalyst for redevelopment of skinner consistent with product that again the lpa hoped would be a catalyst for redevelopment of skinner consistent with product that again the lpa hoped would be a catalyst for redevelopment of skinner consistent with product that again the lpa hoped would be a catalyst for redevelopment of skinner consistent with all these red properties on skinner that are type c street frontages uh with the um with the downtown core all these red properties on skinner that are type c street frontages uh with the um with the downtown core all these red properties on skinner that are type c street frontages uh with the um with the downtown core all these red properties on skinner that are type c street frontages uh with the um with the downtown core all these red properties on skinner that are type c street frontages uh with the um with the downtown core and activity center land use um and the height waiver again we believe is justified uh based on the increased and activity center land use um and the height waiver again we believe is justified uh based on the increased and activity center land use um and the height waiver again we believe is justified uh based on the increased and activity center land use um and the height waiver again we believe is justified uh based on the increased and activity center land use um and the height waiver again we believe is justified uh based on the increased setback uh and uh the 42 feet in height is only a six foot difference from what would be allowed without setback uh and uh the 42 feet in height is only a six foot difference from what would be allowed without setback uh and uh the 42 feet in height is only a six foot difference from what would be allowed without setback uh and uh the 42 feet in height is only a six foot difference from what would be allowed without setback uh and uh the 42 feet in height is only a six foot difference from what would be allowed without commission approval so again we did attempt to make this project the minimum intensity which is the 42 commission approval so again we did attempt to make this project the minimum intensity which is the 42 commission approval so again we did attempt to make this project the minimum intensity which is the 42 commission approval so again we did attempt to make this project the minimum intensity which is the 42 commission approval so again we did attempt to make this project the minimum intensity which is the 42 feet instead of 46 and the minimum density that would also get you a high quality product that would feet instead of 46 and the minimum density that would also get you a high quality product that would feet instead of 46 and the minimum density that would also get you a high quality product that would feet instead of 46 and the minimum density that would also get you a high quality product that would feet instead of 46 and the minimum density that would also get you a high quality product that would be beneficial to the downtown core which is five units as opposed to six we are happy to answer your be beneficial to the downtown core which is five units as opposed to six we are happy to answer your be beneficial to the downtown core which is five units as opposed to six we are happy to answer your be beneficial to the downtown core which is five units as opposed to six we are happy to answer your be beneficial to the downtown core which is five units as opposed to six we are happy to answer your
questions thank you okay questions for the applicant i'll start on this side this time thank you questions thank you okay questions for the applicant i'll start on this side this time thank you questions thank you okay questions for the applicant i'll start on this side this time thank you questions thank you okay questions for the applicant i'll start on this side this time thank you questions thank you okay questions for the applicant i'll start on this side this time thank you
and these five new townhomes they're private residences or they rentals they will be fee simple uh they and these five new townhomes they're private residences or they rentals they will be fee simple uh they and these five new townhomes they're private residences or they rentals they will be fee simple uh they and these five new townhomes they're private residences or they rentals they will be fee simple uh they and these five new townhomes they're private residences or they rentals they will be fee simple uh they will be for uh for sale they're for sale so it's gonna be private residences so tell me a little bit will be for uh for sale they're for sale so it's gonna be private residences so tell me a little bit will be for uh for sale they're for sale so it's gonna be private residences so tell me a little bit will be for uh for sale they're for sale so it's gonna be private residences so tell me a little bit will be for uh for sale they're for sale so it's gonna be private residences so tell me a little bit
about the accommodations you made for bicycles who's well the bicycle accommodations or or who's about the accommodations you made for bicycles who's well the bicycle accommodations or or who's about the accommodations you made for bicycles who's well the bicycle accommodations or or who's about the accommodations you made for bicycles who's well the bicycle accommodations or or who's about the accommodations you made for bicycles who's well the bicycle accommodations or or who's
tulio yeah yeah go ahead tulio tulio talk on that i make accommodations for my bicycle at home it's a tulio yeah yeah go ahead tulio tulio talk on that i make accommodations for my bicycle at home it's a tulio yeah yeah go ahead tulio tulio talk on that i make accommodations for my bicycle at home it's a tulio yeah yeah go ahead tulio tulio talk on that i make accommodations for my bicycle at home it's a tulio yeah yeah go ahead tulio tulio talk on that i make accommodations for my bicycle at home it's a private home i just put it in the garage the the builder didn't have to do anything special so good private home i just put it in the garage the the builder didn't have to do anything special so good private home i just put it in the garage the the builder didn't have to do anything special so good private home i just put it in the garage the the builder didn't have to do anything special so good private home i just put it in the garage the the builder didn't have to do anything special so good
evening my name is hushkovahi i'm with north side engineering clearwater 300 south belcher road evening my name is hushkovahi i'm with north side engineering clearwater 300 south belcher road evening my name is hushkovahi i'm with north side engineering clearwater 300 south belcher road evening my name is hushkovahi i'm with north side engineering clearwater 300 south belcher road evening my name is hushkovahi i'm with north side engineering clearwater 300 south belcher road um typically in in residential units the ownership of of the units can take the bicycles and put them um typically in in residential units the ownership of of the units can take the bicycles and put them um typically in in residential units the ownership of of the units can take the bicycles and put them um typically in in residential units the ownership of of the units can take the bicycles and put them um typically in in residential units the ownership of of the units can take the bicycles and put them upstairs take them in their units in this particular case though the we have provided a a platform for upstairs take them in their units in this particular case though the we have provided a a platform for upstairs take them in their units in this particular case though the we have provided a a platform for upstairs take them in their units in this particular case though the we have provided a a platform for upstairs take them in their units in this particular case though the we have provided a a platform for the park for the parking to park the uh bicycles so it's right in the garage it's right in the garage the park for the parking to park the uh bicycles so it's right in the garage it's right in the garage the park for the parking to park the uh bicycles so it's right in the garage it's right in the garage the park for the parking to park the uh bicycles so it's right in the garage it's right in the garage the park for the parking to park the uh bicycles so it's right in the garage it's right in the garage it's very accessible to the sidewalk that brian's alluding to as far as pedestrian traffic okay thank it's very accessible to the sidewalk that brian's alluding to as far as pedestrian traffic okay thank it's very accessible to the sidewalk that brian's alluding to as far as pedestrian traffic okay thank it's very accessible to the sidewalk that brian's alluding to as far as pedestrian traffic okay thank it's very accessible to the sidewalk that brian's alluding to as far as pedestrian traffic okay thank
you and the the parking garage is that an open garage it is screened tulio yeah it is a screen on the east you and the the parking garage is that an open garage it is screened tulio yeah it is a screen on the east you and the the parking garage is that an open garage it is screened tulio yeah it is a screen on the east you and the the parking garage is that an open garage it is screened tulio yeah it is a screen on the east you and the the parking garage is that an open garage it is screened tulio yeah it is a screen on the east
side uh but it's open to the street um so the street side is open yes and that is just is that what side uh but it's open to the street um so the street side is open yes and that is just is that what side uh but it's open to the street um so the street side is open yes and that is just is that what side uh but it's open to the street um so the street side is open yes and that is just is that what side uh but it's open to the street um so the street side is open yes and that is just is that what what was that material on the east side bamboo screen what it's a wooden fence okay okay um tell me what was that material on the east side bamboo screen what it's a wooden fence okay okay um tell me what was that material on the east side bamboo screen what it's a wooden fence okay okay um tell me what was that material on the east side bamboo screen what it's a wooden fence okay okay um tell me what was that material on the east side bamboo screen what it's a wooden fence okay okay um tell me
about the solid waste and recycling how is that going to work yeah there's a there's a page with the site about the solid waste and recycling how is that going to work yeah there's a there's a page with the site about the solid waste and recycling how is that going to work yeah there's a there's a page with the site about the solid waste and recycling how is that going to work yeah there's a there's a page with the site about the solid waste and recycling how is that going to work yeah there's a there's a page with the site
plan okay so which which slide are we looking for it's a site plan from from north side engineering plan okay so which which slide are we looking for it's a site plan from from north side engineering plan okay so which which slide are we looking for it's a site plan from from north side engineering plan okay so which which slide are we looking for it's a site plan from from north side engineering plan okay so which which slide are we looking for it's a site plan from from north side engineering
that one yeah the floor plan yeah the floor i'm sorry um right there yeah so the bottom right hand that one yeah the floor plan yeah the floor i'm sorry um right there yeah so the bottom right hand that one yeah the floor plan yeah the floor i'm sorry um right there yeah so the bottom right hand that one yeah the floor plan yeah the floor i'm sorry um right there yeah so the bottom right hand that one yeah the floor plan yeah the floor i'm sorry um right there yeah so the bottom right hand
side of the screen commissioner is where the staging is for the sanitation and then that'll be rolled side of the screen commissioner is where the staging is for the sanitation and then that'll be rolled side of the screen commissioner is where the staging is for the sanitation and then that'll be rolled side of the screen commissioner is where the staging is for the sanitation and then that'll be rolled side of the screen commissioner is where the staging is for the sanitation and then that'll be rolled right out uh from that that's the entrance right there to the garage and you'll have right it's residential right out uh from that that's the entrance right there to the garage and you'll have right it's residential right out uh from that that's the entrance right there to the garage and you'll have right it's residential right out uh from that that's the entrance right there to the garage and you'll have right it's residential right out uh from that that's the entrance right there to the garage and you'll have right it's residential
so the homeowner will have access to solid waste and recycling yes sir and with five units so we're so the homeowner will have access to solid waste and recycling yes sir and with five units so we're so the homeowner will have access to solid waste and recycling yes sir and with five units so we're so the homeowner will have access to solid waste and recycling yes sir and with five units so we're so the homeowner will have access to solid waste and recycling yes sir and with five units so we're going to see 10 different cans five units out at the curb the applicant has met with sanitation and going to see 10 different cans five units out at the curb the applicant has met with sanitation and going to see 10 different cans five units out at the curb the applicant has met with sanitation and going to see 10 different cans five units out at the curb the applicant has met with sanitation and going to see 10 different cans five units out at the curb the applicant has met with sanitation and
that was part of the development review process and sanity all the sanitation comments have been complied that was part of the development review process and sanity all the sanitation comments have been complied that was part of the development review process and sanity all the sanitation comments have been complied that was part of the development review process and sanity all the sanitation comments have been complied that was part of the development review process and sanity all the sanitation comments have been complied with um so i don't know if anybody else wants to add anything on that i went to sanitation and we worked with um so i don't know if anybody else wants to add anything on that i went to sanitation and we worked with um so i don't know if anybody else wants to add anything on that i went to sanitation and we worked with um so i don't know if anybody else wants to add anything on that i went to sanitation and we worked with um so i don't know if anybody else wants to add anything on that i went to sanitation and we worked
out the whole plan and it's approved by i forget the gentleman's name i apologize paul so i sat down with paul out the whole plan and it's approved by i forget the gentleman's name i apologize paul so i sat down with paul out the whole plan and it's approved by i forget the gentleman's name i apologize paul so i sat down with paul out the whole plan and it's approved by i forget the gentleman's name i apologize paul so i sat down with paul out the whole plan and it's approved by i forget the gentleman's name i apologize paul so i sat down with paul for about an hour and a half and he came up with this plan and then if you go to the front he he's for about an hour and a half and he came up with this plan and then if you go to the front he he's for about an hour and a half and he came up with this plan and then if you go to the front he he's for about an hour and a half and he came up with this plan and then if you go to the front he he's for about an hour and a half and he came up with this plan and then if you go to the front he he's myself and him placed the cans where he wanted them because he's going to have the garbage can to you myself and him placed the cans where he wanted them because he's going to have the garbage can to you myself and him placed the cans where he wanted them because he's going to have the garbage can to you myself and him placed the cans where he wanted them because he's going to have the garbage can to you myself and him placed the cans where he wanted them because he's going to have the garbage can to you know with the arm and i believe the uh they're on two different days right the recycling and the um know with the arm and i believe the uh they're on two different days right the recycling and the um know with the arm and i believe the uh they're on two different days right the recycling and the um know with the arm and i believe the uh they're on two different days right the recycling and the um know with the arm and i believe the uh they're on two different days right the recycling and the um no no they're on the same same day same day okay yeah so but he he told us exactly where to place them no no they're on the same same day same day okay yeah so but he he told us exactly where to place them no no they're on the same same day same day okay yeah so but he he told us exactly where to place them no no they're on the same same day same day okay yeah so but he he told us exactly where to place them no no they're on the same same day same day okay yeah so but he he told us exactly where to place them and he agreed with the plan and then the other trash cans that we're referring to they're all the way in and he agreed with the plan and then the other trash cans that we're referring to they're all the way in and he agreed with the plan and then the other trash cans that we're referring to they're all the way in and he agreed with the plan and then the other trash cans that we're referring to they're all the way in and he agreed with the plan and then the other trash cans that we're referring to they're all the way in the back by the other unit they're no they're nowhere out front they're put on the left curb the back by the other unit they're no they're nowhere out front they're put on the left curb the back by the other unit they're no they're nowhere out front they're put on the left curb the back by the other unit they're no they're nowhere out front they're put on the left curb the back by the other unit they're no they're nowhere out front they're put on the left curb
two different okay and so yeah so for your this property yes sir the cans are going to be curbside two different okay and so yeah so for your this property yes sir the cans are going to be curbside two different okay and so yeah so for your this property yes sir the cans are going to be curbside two different okay and so yeah so for your this property yes sir the cans are going to be curbside two different okay and so yeah so for your this property yes sir the cans are going to be curbside solid waste is not going to pull into the garage and use the arm right so we're going to have right solid waste is not going to pull into the garage and use the arm right so we're going to have right solid waste is not going to pull into the garage and use the arm right so we're going to have right solid waste is not going to pull into the garage and use the arm right so we're going to have right solid waste is not going to pull into the garage and use the arm right so we're going to have right on the street okay and i you can't speak for the i understand if you can't speak for the units that are on the street okay and i you can't speak for the i understand if you can't speak for the units that are on the street okay and i you can't speak for the i understand if you can't speak for the units that are on the street okay and i you can't speak for the i understand if you can't speak for the units that are on the street okay and i you can't speak for the i understand if you can't speak for the units that are behind you but from what you know are those cans brought all the way out to the curb yeah but they behind you but from what you know are those cans brought all the way out to the curb yeah but they behind you but from what you know are those cans brought all the way out to the curb yeah but they behind you but from what you know are those cans brought all the way out to the curb yeah but they behind you but from what you know are those cans brought all the way out to the curb yeah but they
have their own curb there's two curbs so they have their but but both of those curbs are on skinner have their own curb there's two curbs so they have their but but both of those curbs are on skinner have their own curb there's two curbs so they have their but but both of those curbs are on skinner have their own curb there's two curbs so they have their but but both of those curbs are on skinner have their own curb there's two curbs so they have their but but both of those curbs are on skinner yes sir okay so okay so so we do have the but two of those units are offices on the bottom so it's yes sir okay so okay so so we do have the but two of those units are offices on the bottom so it's yes sir okay so okay so so we do have the but two of those units are offices on the bottom so it's yes sir okay so okay so so we do have the but two of those units are offices on the bottom so it's yes sir okay so okay so so we do have the but two of those units are offices on the bottom so it's actually technically only two residential units so and then one of the units is is not being used actually technically only two residential units so and then one of the units is is not being used actually technically only two residential units so and then one of the units is is not being used actually technically only two residential units so and then one of the units is is not being used actually technically only two residential units so and then one of the units is is not being used so yeah but just so you guys know that it's not residential trash it's just just um i think a so yeah but just so you guys know that it's not residential trash it's just just um i think a so yeah but just so you guys know that it's not residential trash it's just just um i think a so yeah but just so you guys know that it's not residential trash it's just just um i think a so yeah but just so you guys know that it's not residential trash it's just just um i think a real estate office and then the other one um belongs to it yep okay um that's all that i have right now real estate office and then the other one um belongs to it yep okay um that's all that i have right now real estate office and then the other one um belongs to it yep okay um that's all that i have right now real estate office and then the other one um belongs to it yep okay um that's all that i have right now real estate office and then the other one um belongs to it yep okay um that's all that i have right now
mayor i'll leave room all right uh questions for the applicant commissioner to guard thank you mayor um mayor i'll leave room all right uh questions for the applicant commissioner to guard thank you mayor um mayor i'll leave room all right uh questions for the applicant commissioner to guard thank you mayor um mayor i'll leave room all right uh questions for the applicant commissioner to guard thank you mayor um mayor i'll leave room all right uh questions for the applicant commissioner to guard thank you mayor um
as i'm looking at this project and i'm looking at the challenges that well actually the question we're as i'm looking at this project and i'm looking at the challenges that well actually the question we're as i'm looking at this project and i'm looking at the challenges that well actually the question we're as i'm looking at this project and i'm looking at the challenges that well actually the question we're as i'm looking at this project and i'm looking at the challenges that well actually the question we're facing which is do we approve this because at this fourth floor we have the approval it's rest right facing which is do we approve this because at this fourth floor we have the approval it's rest right facing which is do we approve this because at this fourth floor we have the approval it's rest right facing which is do we approve this because at this fourth floor we have the approval it's rest right facing which is do we approve this because at this fourth floor we have the approval it's rest right here we've got a recommendation from lpa to proceed but i'm i'm really going to have to kind of ignore here we've got a recommendation from lpa to proceed but i'm i'm really going to have to kind of ignore here we've got a recommendation from lpa to proceed but i'm i'm really going to have to kind of ignore here we've got a recommendation from lpa to proceed but i'm i'm really going to have to kind of ignore here we've got a recommendation from lpa to proceed but i'm i'm really going to have to kind of ignore that because they they had made their decision we have to make ours now the question as i'm looking at that because they they had made their decision we have to make ours now the question as i'm looking at that because they they had made their decision we have to make ours now the question as i'm looking at that because they they had made their decision we have to make ours now the question as i'm looking at that because they they had made their decision we have to make ours now the question as i'm looking at this we've known for 18 months that there was a question about height on this project tell me about this we've known for 18 months that there was a question about height on this project tell me about this we've known for 18 months that there was a question about height on this project tell me about this we've known for 18 months that there was a question about height on this project tell me about this we've known for 18 months that there was a question about height on this project tell me about your decision to go forward with the application knowing that that existed all right right and your decision to go forward with the application knowing that that existed all right right and your decision to go forward with the application knowing that that existed all right right and your decision to go forward with the application knowing that that existed all right right and your decision to go forward with the application knowing that that existed all right right and
commissioner as i said i got involved uh back in august of 2025 so i was not a part of that decision commissioner as i said i got involved uh back in august of 2025 so i was not a part of that decision commissioner as i said i got involved uh back in august of 2025 so i was not a part of that decision commissioner as i said i got involved uh back in august of 2025 so i was not a part of that decision commissioner as i said i got involved uh back in august of 2025 so i was not a part of that decision but what i think i can tell you is that the applicant has improved the design including reducing the height but what i think i can tell you is that the applicant has improved the design including reducing the height but what i think i can tell you is that the applicant has improved the design including reducing the height but what i think i can tell you is that the applicant has improved the design including reducing the height but what i think i can tell you is that the applicant has improved the design including reducing the height and the density of the project in response to working with the staff understanding that there was going and the density of the project in response to working with the staff understanding that there was going and the density of the project in response to working with the staff understanding that there was going and the density of the project in response to working with the staff understanding that there was going and the density of the project in response to working with the staff understanding that there was going to still be a respectful disagreement or difference of opinion when you talk about compatibility it is to still be a respectful disagreement or difference of opinion when you talk about compatibility it is to still be a respectful disagreement or difference of opinion when you talk about compatibility it is to still be a respectful disagreement or difference of opinion when you talk about compatibility it is to still be a respectful disagreement or difference of opinion when you talk about compatibility it is subjective in many ways and when you talk about redevelopment of an activity center compared to subjective in many ways and when you talk about redevelopment of an activity center compared to subjective in many ways and when you talk about redevelopment of an activity center compared to subjective in many ways and when you talk about redevelopment of an activity center compared to subjective in many ways and when you talk about redevelopment of an activity center compared to parcels that are adjacent that are non-conforming there's always friction with what's compatible parcels that are adjacent that are non-conforming there's always friction with what's compatible parcels that are adjacent that are non-conforming there's always friction with what's compatible parcels that are adjacent that are non-conforming there's always friction with what's compatible parcels that are adjacent that are non-conforming there's always friction with what's compatible and what's not if you only approve things that were compatible with the adjacent property you would and what's not if you only approve things that were compatible with the adjacent property you would and what's not if you only approve things that were compatible with the adjacent property you would and what's not if you only approve things that were compatible with the adjacent property you would and what's not if you only approve things that were compatible with the adjacent property you would not approve anything that's consistent with the new standards and what is being legislatively not approve anything that's consistent with the new standards and what is being legislatively not approve anything that's consistent with the new standards and what is being legislatively not approve anything that's consistent with the new standards and what is being legislatively not approve anything that's consistent with the new standards and what is being legislatively marketed to the to the development communities this is what we want we want multi-family marketed to the to the development communities this is what we want we want multi-family marketed to the to the development communities this is what we want we want multi-family marketed to the to the development communities this is what we want we want multi-family marketed to the to the development communities this is what we want we want multi-family that works on these sites um so i believe the developer was hopeful that by incorporating those that works on these sites um so i believe the developer was hopeful that by incorporating those that works on these sites um so i believe the developer was hopeful that by incorporating those that works on these sites um so i believe the developer was hopeful that by incorporating those that works on these sites um so i believe the developer was hopeful that by incorporating those improvements incorporating the improvements by the arc and now finally getting through the lpa and improvements incorporating the improvements by the arc and now finally getting through the lpa and improvements incorporating the improvements by the arc and now finally getting through the lpa and improvements incorporating the improvements by the arc and now finally getting through the lpa and improvements incorporating the improvements by the arc and now finally getting through the lpa and improving it even more by providing this vault that you all would be persuaded that this would be a improving it even more by providing this vault that you all would be persuaded that this would be a improving it even more by providing this vault that you all would be persuaded that this would be a improving it even more by providing this vault that you all would be persuaded that this would be a improving it even more by providing this vault that you all would be persuaded that this would be a reasonable and respectfully uh you know supportable request was there any encouragement along the way to reasonable and respectfully uh you know supportable request was there any encouragement along the way to reasonable and respectfully uh you know supportable request was there any encouragement along the way to reasonable and respectfully uh you know supportable request was there any encouragement along the way to reasonable and respectfully uh you know supportable request was there any encouragement along the way to make you believe that was the case in terms of from staff yeah i believe the staff was always pretty make you believe that was the case in terms of from staff yeah i believe the staff was always pretty make you believe that was the case in terms of from staff yeah i believe the staff was always pretty make you believe that was the case in terms of from staff yeah i believe the staff was always pretty make you believe that was the case in terms of from staff yeah i believe the staff was always pretty consistent and clear uh that they were going to be challenged to go to 42 feet on this site i believe consistent and clear uh that they were going to be challenged to go to 42 feet on this site i believe consistent and clear uh that they were going to be challenged to go to 42 feet on this site i believe consistent and clear uh that they were going to be challenged to go to 42 feet on this site i believe consistent and clear uh that they were going to be challenged to go to 42 feet on this site i believe
that was i believe that's the case okay thank you mayor that's all my questions uh you have to come that was i believe that's the case okay thank you mayor that's all my questions uh you have to come that was i believe that's the case okay thank you mayor that's all my questions uh you have to come that was i believe that's the case okay thank you mayor that's all my questions uh you have to come that was i believe that's the case okay thank you mayor that's all my questions uh you have to come
forward if you're going to say something and introduce yourself please i think what what mr reinholt forward if you're going to say something and introduce yourself please i think what what mr reinholt forward if you're going to say something and introduce yourself please i think what what mr reinholt forward if you're going to say something and introduce yourself please i think what what mr reinholt forward if you're going to say something and introduce yourself please i think what what mr reinholt
was was was wanting to point out the commissioner is the only disagreement we have is about that six was was was wanting to point out the commissioner is the only disagreement we have is about that six was was was wanting to point out the commissioner is the only disagreement we have is about that six was was was wanting to point out the commissioner is the only disagreement we have is about that six was was was wanting to point out the commissioner is the only disagreement we have is about that six feet in height the red the staff finds everything else about the project to be consistent and feet in height the red the staff finds everything else about the project to be consistent and feet in height the red the staff finds everything else about the project to be consistent and feet in height the red the staff finds everything else about the project to be consistent and feet in height the red the staff finds everything else about the project to be consistent and supportable um and so because the rest of it was consistent and supportable uh and he needs that supportable um and so because the rest of it was consistent and supportable uh and he needs that supportable um and so because the rest of it was consistent and supportable uh and he needs that supportable um and so because the rest of it was consistent and supportable uh and he needs that supportable um and so because the rest of it was consistent and supportable uh and he needs that extra footage to get the five units and the uh and the parking that we we were hopeful that this would extra footage to get the five units and the uh and the parking that we we were hopeful that this would extra footage to get the five units and the uh and the parking that we we were hopeful that this would extra footage to get the five units and the uh and the parking that we we were hopeful that this would extra footage to get the five units and the uh and the parking that we we were hopeful that this would be considered a reasonable and supportable request by the commission then i have one more question if i be considered a reasonable and supportable request by the commission then i have one more question if i be considered a reasonable and supportable request by the commission then i have one more question if i be considered a reasonable and supportable request by the commission then i have one more question if i be considered a reasonable and supportable request by the commission then i have one more question if i
may sure go ahead um was there any third place we've got yes or no at this hike is where we are today may sure go ahead um was there any third place we've got yes or no at this hike is where we are today may sure go ahead um was there any third place we've got yes or no at this hike is where we are today may sure go ahead um was there any third place we've got yes or no at this hike is where we are today may sure go ahead um was there any third place we've got yes or no at this hike is where we are today was there any third place where we say okay if you could go back this much further five feet separate was there any third place where we say okay if you could go back this much further five feet separate was there any third place where we say okay if you could go back this much further five feet separate was there any third place where we say okay if you could go back this much further five feet separate was there any third place where we say okay if you could go back this much further five feet separate
wait was there any negotiation like that that went on in terms of alternative designs i think this is wait was there any negotiation like that that went on in terms of alternative designs i think this is wait was there any negotiation like that that went on in terms of alternative designs i think this is wait was there any negotiation like that that went on in terms of alternative designs i think this is wait was there any negotiation like that that went on in terms of alternative designs i think this is the alternative design that the developer felt was the best most reasonable use of the pride the alternative design that the developer felt was the best most reasonable use of the pride the alternative design that the developer felt was the best most reasonable use of the pride the alternative design that the developer felt was the best most reasonable use of the pride the alternative design that the developer felt was the best most reasonable use of the pride property to provide a product that would be beneficial to the downtown core and to the cra property to provide a product that would be beneficial to the downtown core and to the cra property to provide a product that would be beneficial to the downtown core and to the cra property to provide a product that would be beneficial to the downtown core and to the cra property to provide a product that would be beneficial to the downtown core and to the cra
thank you mayor okay um vice mayor questions for the applicant uh no the one question i did have was thank you mayor okay um vice mayor questions for the applicant uh no the one question i did have was thank you mayor okay um vice mayor questions for the applicant uh no the one question i did have was thank you mayor okay um vice mayor questions for the applicant uh no the one question i did have was thank you mayor okay um vice mayor questions for the applicant uh no the one question i did have was answered so um commissioner sandbergen questions for the applicant yeah that picture that's up brian answered so um commissioner sandbergen questions for the applicant yeah that picture that's up brian answered so um commissioner sandbergen questions for the applicant yeah that picture that's up brian answered so um commissioner sandbergen questions for the applicant yeah that picture that's up brian answered so um commissioner sandbergen questions for the applicant yeah that picture that's up brian
looks like that unit four there's a car so you can enter from skinner as well as the the driveway looks like that unit four there's a car so you can enter from skinner as well as the the driveway looks like that unit four there's a car so you can enter from skinner as well as the the driveway looks like that unit four there's a car so you can enter from skinner as well as the the driveway looks like that unit four there's a car so you can enter from skinner as well as the the driveway
coming in i'm a little confused about that yes most of the cars are entering obviously from skinner coming in i'm a little confused about that yes most of the cars are entering obviously from skinner coming in i'm a little confused about that yes most of the cars are entering obviously from skinner coming in i'm a little confused about that yes most of the cars are entering obviously from skinner coming in i'm a little confused about that yes most of the cars are entering obviously from skinner to the parking garage but there are a few couple of parking spaces that uh will access from the to the parking garage but there are a few couple of parking spaces that uh will access from the to the parking garage but there are a few couple of parking spaces that uh will access from the to the parking garage but there are a few couple of parking spaces that uh will access from the to the parking garage but there are a few couple of parking spaces that uh will access from the
shared access the driveway driveway yes okay i'm still gonna i'm not gonna let you off that easy about shared access the driveway driveway yes okay i'm still gonna i'm not gonna let you off that easy about shared access the driveway driveway yes okay i'm still gonna i'm not gonna let you off that easy about shared access the driveway driveway yes okay i'm still gonna i'm not gonna let you off that easy about shared access the driveway driveway yes okay i'm still gonna i'm not gonna let you off that easy about that uh underground water storage and dumping water on those neighbors say they sure don't deserve that uh underground water storage and dumping water on those neighbors say they sure don't deserve that uh underground water storage and dumping water on those neighbors say they sure don't deserve that uh underground water storage and dumping water on those neighbors say they sure don't deserve that uh underground water storage and dumping water on those neighbors say they sure don't deserve that what a try to can you try to clarify where that storm water is going to go and how we're going that what a try to can you try to clarify where that storm water is going to go and how we're going that what a try to can you try to clarify where that storm water is going to go and how we're going that what a try to can you try to clarify where that storm water is going to go and how we're going that what a try to can you try to clarify where that storm water is going to go and how we're going
to be protected yes more than happy to currently if you look at the survey you have a very small retention to be protected yes more than happy to currently if you look at the survey you have a very small retention to be protected yes more than happy to currently if you look at the survey you have a very small retention to be protected yes more than happy to currently if you look at the survey you have a very small retention to be protected yes more than happy to currently if you look at the survey you have a very small retention area that's not even retention it's just like a really dilapidated like a hole in the ground that that area that's not even retention it's just like a really dilapidated like a hole in the ground that that area that's not even retention it's just like a really dilapidated like a hole in the ground that that area that's not even retention it's just like a really dilapidated like a hole in the ground that that area that's not even retention it's just like a really dilapidated like a hole in the ground that that holds some water uh if you also consider elevations um the the pond itself has about four feet of depth holds some water uh if you also consider elevations um the the pond itself has about four feet of depth holds some water uh if you also consider elevations um the the pond itself has about four feet of depth holds some water uh if you also consider elevations um the the pond itself has about four feet of depth holds some water uh if you also consider elevations um the the pond itself has about four feet of depth however the inlet in the parking lot is about a foot and a quarter below the top so any water that goes however the inlet in the parking lot is about a foot and a quarter below the top so any water that goes however the inlet in the parking lot is about a foot and a quarter below the top so any water that goes however the inlet in the parking lot is about a foot and a quarter below the top so any water that goes however the inlet in the parking lot is about a foot and a quarter below the top so any water that goes in that pond basically sheet flows back into that inlet if that makes any sense if i could stop you right in that pond basically sheet flows back into that inlet if that makes any sense if i could stop you right in that pond basically sheet flows back into that inlet if that makes any sense if i could stop you right in that pond basically sheet flows back into that inlet if that makes any sense if i could stop you right in that pond basically sheet flows back into that inlet if that makes any sense if i could stop you right
there on this picture where is that where is that is it represented on here um it's it's at the like there on this picture where is that where is that is it represented on here um it's it's at the like there on this picture where is that where is that is it represented on here um it's it's at the like there on this picture where is that where is that is it represented on here um it's it's at the like there on this picture where is that where is that is it represented on here um it's it's at the like
a northwest corner of of this site i wish we had a better representation of the civil plan like a sheet a northwest corner of of this site i wish we had a better representation of the civil plan like a sheet a northwest corner of of this site i wish we had a better representation of the civil plan like a sheet a northwest corner of of this site i wish we had a better representation of the civil plan like a sheet a northwest corner of of this site i wish we had a better representation of the civil plan like a sheet c4.1 uh but it's at the at the north so because the oh all right so um can you see the northwest corner of c4.1 uh but it's at the at the north so because the oh all right so um can you see the northwest corner of c4.1 uh but it's at the at the north so because the oh all right so um can you see the northwest corner of c4.1 uh but it's at the at the north so because the oh all right so um can you see the northwest corner of c4.1 uh but it's at the at the north so because the oh all right so um can you see the northwest corner of
the property line where it says lot three probably coming off of palmetto or proposed lot i'm looking the property line where it says lot three probably coming off of palmetto or proposed lot i'm looking the property line where it says lot three probably coming off of palmetto or proposed lot i'm looking the property line where it says lot three probably coming off of palmetto or proposed lot i'm looking the property line where it says lot three probably coming off of palmetto or proposed lot i'm looking at the same thing you are i i guess i'm just wondering where see see uh see the i um in the hexagon at the same thing you are i i guess i'm just wondering where see see uh see the i um in the hexagon at the same thing you are i i guess i'm just wondering where see see uh see the i um in the hexagon at the same thing you are i i guess i'm just wondering where see see uh see the i um in the hexagon at the same thing you are i i guess i'm just wondering where see see uh see the i um in the hexagon
it shows number one you see up there um at the top of the brown color um area all the way to the top it shows number one you see up there um at the top of the brown color um area all the way to the top it shows number one you see up there um at the top of the brown color um area all the way to the top it shows number one you see up there um at the top of the brown color um area all the way to the top it shows number one you see up there um at the top of the brown color um area all the way to the top you see in the hexagon it says number one yes i see that all right so that's the inlet so that inlet is you see in the hexagon it says number one yes i see that all right so that's the inlet so that inlet is you see in the hexagon it says number one yes i see that all right so that's the inlet so that inlet is you see in the hexagon it says number one yes i see that all right so that's the inlet so that inlet is you see in the hexagon it says number one yes i see that all right so that's the inlet so that inlet is about a foot and a half right now below the top of the bank in the pond so any water that goes into about a foot and a half right now below the top of the bank in the pond so any water that goes into about a foot and a half right now below the top of the bank in the pond so any water that goes into about a foot and a half right now below the top of the bank in the pond so any water that goes into about a foot and a half right now below the top of the bank in the pond so any water that goes into the pond basically stays in that inlet and and as you go towards skinner and as you go north the the the pond basically stays in that inlet and and as you go towards skinner and as you go north the the the pond basically stays in that inlet and and as you go towards skinner and as you go north the the the pond basically stays in that inlet and and as you go towards skinner and as you go north the the the pond basically stays in that inlet and and as you go towards skinner and as you go north the the pavement actually goes up so that inlet is really at the bottom of like a hill and there's no way for pavement actually goes up so that inlet is really at the bottom of like a hill and there's no way for pavement actually goes up so that inlet is really at the bottom of like a hill and there's no way for pavement actually goes up so that inlet is really at the bottom of like a hill and there's no way for pavement actually goes up so that inlet is really at the bottom of like a hill and there's no way for any water to get out so it's designed for the water to to flow towards basically flood and it has to any water to get out so it's designed for the water to to flow towards basically flood and it has to any water to get out so it's designed for the water to to flow towards basically flood and it has to any water to get out so it's designed for the water to to flow towards basically flood and it has to any water to get out so it's designed for the water to to flow towards basically flood and it has to build up about a foot and a quarter before it can escape and drain into uh skinner okay so what we are build up about a foot and a quarter before it can escape and drain into uh skinner okay so what we are build up about a foot and a quarter before it can escape and drain into uh skinner okay so what we are build up about a foot and a quarter before it can escape and drain into uh skinner okay so what we are build up about a foot and a quarter before it can escape and drain into uh skinner okay so what we are building here is a vault that's going to cost about 350 000 that's a lot of money and it would have to building here is a vault that's going to cost about 350 000 that's a lot of money and it would have to building here is a vault that's going to cost about 350 000 that's a lot of money and it would have to building here is a vault that's going to cost about 350 000 that's a lot of money and it would have to building here is a vault that's going to cost about 350 000 that's a lot of money and it would have to meet dot and swift mud requirements swift mud has changed the regulations right now with the bmp train meet dot and swift mud requirements swift mud has changed the regulations right now with the bmp train meet dot and swift mud requirements swift mud has changed the regulations right now with the bmp train meet dot and swift mud requirements swift mud has changed the regulations right now with the bmp train meet dot and swift mud requirements swift mud has changed the regulations right now with the bmp train it's it really requires a lot of volume so this design for sure exceeds the city requirements so it's it really requires a lot of volume so this design for sure exceeds the city requirements so it's it really requires a lot of volume so this design for sure exceeds the city requirements so it's it really requires a lot of volume so this design for sure exceeds the city requirements so it's it really requires a lot of volume so this design for sure exceeds the city requirements so we're looking at a hundred year storm um there's really no place for the water to go except it just we're looking at a hundred year storm um there's really no place for the water to go except it just we're looking at a hundred year storm um there's really no place for the water to go except it just we're looking at a hundred year storm um there's really no place for the water to go except it just we're looking at a hundred year storm um there's really no place for the water to go except it just
builds up and percolates into the ground you know we get so many inquiries post hurricane you know 2024 builds up and percolates into the ground you know we get so many inquiries post hurricane you know 2024 builds up and percolates into the ground you know we get so many inquiries post hurricane you know 2024 builds up and percolates into the ground you know we get so many inquiries post hurricane you know 2024 builds up and percolates into the ground you know we get so many inquiries post hurricane you know 2024 everything that comes before us that's one of the biggest questions so um that's all i have mayor everything that comes before us that's one of the biggest questions so um that's all i have mayor everything that comes before us that's one of the biggest questions so um that's all i have mayor everything that comes before us that's one of the biggest questions so um that's all i have mayor everything that comes before us that's one of the biggest questions so um that's all i have mayor
um so sorry this is just still in my head i have to ask it one more time so why didn't the applicant um so sorry this is just still in my head i have to ask it one more time so why didn't the applicant um so sorry this is just still in my head i have to ask it one more time so why didn't the applicant um so sorry this is just still in my head i have to ask it one more time so why didn't the applicant um so sorry this is just still in my head i have to ask it one more time so why didn't the applicant wait and just finish the process and go back to arc we didn't i'm still struggling with that we didn't wait and just finish the process and go back to arc we didn't i'm still struggling with that we didn't wait and just finish the process and go back to arc we didn't i'm still struggling with that we didn't wait and just finish the process and go back to arc we didn't i'm still struggling with that we didn't wait and just finish the process and go back to arc we didn't i'm still struggling with that we didn't
realize we were supposed to do that mayor so there was someone else another lawyer handling this case in realize we were supposed to do that mayor so there was someone else another lawyer handling this case in realize we were supposed to do that mayor so there was someone else another lawyer handling this case in realize we were supposed to do that mayor so there was someone else another lawyer handling this case in realize we were supposed to do that mayor so there was someone else another lawyer handling this case in june of 2025 in august of 2025 it was handed off to me and that contemporaneously with that these plans june of 2025 in august of 2025 it was handed off to me and that contemporaneously with that these plans june of 2025 in august of 2025 it was handed off to me and that contemporaneously with that these plans june of 2025 in august of 2025 it was handed off to me and that contemporaneously with that these plans june of 2025 in august of 2025 it was handed off to me and that contemporaneously with that these plans were done and i asked were were these uploaded did this get back to the city and the answer was were done and i asked were were these uploaded did this get back to the city and the answer was were done and i asked were were these uploaded did this get back to the city and the answer was were done and i asked were were these uploaded did this get back to the city and the answer was were done and i asked were were these uploaded did this get back to the city and the answer was yes and i didn't receive i let the city know that i was representing the applicant i believe we met we yes and i didn't receive i let the city know that i was representing the applicant i believe we met we yes and i didn't receive i let the city know that i was representing the applicant i believe we met we yes and i didn't receive i let the city know that i was representing the applicant i believe we met we yes and i didn't receive i let the city know that i was representing the applicant i believe we met we might have met or just had a phone call um to get me up to speed on the city's uh perspective and the might have met or just had a phone call um to get me up to speed on the city's uh perspective and the might have met or just had a phone call um to get me up to speed on the city's uh perspective and the might have met or just had a phone call um to get me up to speed on the city's uh perspective and the might have met or just had a phone call um to get me up to speed on the city's uh perspective and the history on that and um you know i was unaware that that was something that was requested i became again history on that and um you know i was unaware that that was something that was requested i became again history on that and um you know i was unaware that that was something that was requested i became again history on that and um you know i was unaware that that was something that was requested i became again history on that and um you know i was unaware that that was something that was requested i became again the lpa hearing got delayed at least once if not twice once was based on quorum issues the second the lpa hearing got delayed at least once if not twice once was based on quorum issues the second the lpa hearing got delayed at least once if not twice once was based on quorum issues the second the lpa hearing got delayed at least once if not twice once was based on quorum issues the second the lpa hearing got delayed at least once if not twice once was based on quorum issues the second time might have been my availability uh over the holidays i believe that's what it was thank you time might have been my availability uh over the holidays i believe that's what it was thank you time might have been my availability uh over the holidays i believe that's what it was thank you time might have been my availability uh over the holidays i believe that's what it was thank you time might have been my availability uh over the holidays i believe that's what it was thank you city manager so first time was a quorum problem for lpa second time was my availability that's why we got city manager so first time was a quorum problem for lpa second time was my availability that's why we got city manager so first time was a quorum problem for lpa second time was my availability that's why we got city manager so first time was a quorum problem for lpa second time was my availability that's why we got city manager so first time was a quorum problem for lpa second time was my availability that's why we got pushed all the way to january i didn't realize that the staff's position was that the arcs conditions pushed all the way to january i didn't realize that the staff's position was that the arcs conditions pushed all the way to january i didn't realize that the staff's position was that the arcs conditions pushed all the way to january i didn't realize that the staff's position was that the arcs conditions pushed all the way to january i didn't realize that the staff's position was that the arcs conditions were supposed to be re-reviewed by the arc when i read the arc minutes it said we recommend approval were supposed to be re-reviewed by the arc when i read the arc minutes it said we recommend approval were supposed to be re-reviewed by the arc when i read the arc minutes it said we recommend approval were supposed to be re-reviewed by the arc when i read the arc minutes it said we recommend approval were supposed to be re-reviewed by the arc when i read the arc minutes it said we recommend approval subject to these four conditions i didn't see where it said come back and so that was only a day before subject to these four conditions i didn't see where it said come back and so that was only a day before subject to these four conditions i didn't see where it said come back and so that was only a day before subject to these four conditions i didn't see where it said come back and so that was only a day before subject to these four conditions i didn't see where it said come back and so that was only a day before the lpa hearing which had already been delayed three or four months and at that time the city the lpa hearing which had already been delayed three or four months and at that time the city the lpa hearing which had already been delayed three or four months and at that time the city the lpa hearing which had already been delayed three or four months and at that time the city the lpa hearing which had already been delayed three or four months and at that time the city staff basically said you don't have to go back to arc you can go to lpa and the lpa recommended staff basically said you don't have to go back to arc you can go to lpa and the lpa recommended staff basically said you don't have to go back to arc you can go to lpa and the lpa recommended staff basically said you don't have to go back to arc you can go to lpa and the lpa recommended staff basically said you don't have to go back to arc you can go to lpa and the lpa recommended approval as you know and and they found that we met the arc requirements if we should have gone back approval as you know and and they found that we met the arc requirements if we should have gone back approval as you know and and they found that we met the arc requirements if we should have gone back approval as you know and and they found that we met the arc requirements if we should have gone back approval as you know and and they found that we met the arc requirements if we should have gone back to the arc i really wish i would have done it while we had the delay for main street exchange because to the arc i really wish i would have done it while we had the delay for main street exchange because to the arc i really wish i would have done it while we had the delay for main street exchange because to the arc i really wish i would have done it while we had the delay for main street exchange because to the arc i really wish i would have done it while we had the delay for main street exchange because there would have been time to do that um if it's really important for you to for us to go back to the there would have been time to do that um if it's really important for you to for us to go back to the there would have been time to do that um if it's really important for you to for us to go back to the there would have been time to do that um if it's really important for you to for us to go back to the there would have been time to do that um if it's really important for you to for us to go back to the arc and you think it'll make a difference in supporting it we would do we would be willing to do that arc and you think it'll make a difference in supporting it we would do we would be willing to do that arc and you think it'll make a difference in supporting it we would do we would be willing to do that arc and you think it'll make a difference in supporting it we would do we would be willing to do that arc and you think it'll make a difference in supporting it we would do we would be willing to do that if you'd like us to go back to them if that would help some of you get to a supportability on this if you'd like us to go back to them if that would help some of you get to a supportability on this if you'd like us to go back to them if that would help some of you get to a supportability on this if you'd like us to go back to them if that would help some of you get to a supportability on this if you'd like us to go back to them if that would help some of you get to a supportability on this that if that's going to make the difference we would absolutely do it no but i just it was just that if that's going to make the difference we would absolutely do it no but i just it was just that if that's going to make the difference we would absolutely do it no but i just it was just that if that's going to make the difference we would absolutely do it no but i just it was just that if that's going to make the difference we would absolutely do it no but i just it was just
lingering and that actually helps your answer helps um so and my only other question i guess is can you lingering and that actually helps your answer helps um so and my only other question i guess is can you lingering and that actually helps your answer helps um so and my only other question i guess is can you lingering and that actually helps your answer helps um so and my only other question i guess is can you lingering and that actually helps your answer helps um so and my only other question i guess is can you put up the mass uh thing that you just did okay so when i look at that picture and when i look at page put up the mass uh thing that you just did okay so when i look at that picture and when i look at page put up the mass uh thing that you just did okay so when i look at that picture and when i look at page put up the mass uh thing that you just did okay so when i look at that picture and when i look at page put up the mass uh thing that you just did okay so when i look at that picture and when i look at page 32 of your application which actually shows your own massing against other buildings i i see nothing 32 of your application which actually shows your own massing against other buildings i i see nothing 32 of your application which actually shows your own massing against other buildings i i see nothing 32 of your application which actually shows your own massing against other buildings i i see nothing 32 of your application which actually shows your own massing against other buildings i i see nothing compatible about that so help me with how you think that's compatible to the surrounding right compatible about that so help me with how you think that's compatible to the surrounding right compatible about that so help me with how you think that's compatible to the surrounding right compatible about that so help me with how you think that's compatible to the surrounding right compatible about that so help me with how you think that's compatible to the surrounding right that street corridor and how it can evolve this is showing what what the project would look like that street corridor and how it can evolve this is showing what what the project would look like that street corridor and how it can evolve this is showing what what the project would look like that street corridor and how it can evolve this is showing what what the project would look like that street corridor and how it can evolve this is showing what what the project would look like
if it had a zero foot setback yeah you can you can get rid of the okay the other part because it's if it had a zero foot setback yeah you can you can get rid of the okay the other part because it's if it had a zero foot setback yeah you can you can get rid of the okay the other part because it's if it had a zero foot setback yeah you can you can get rid of the okay the other part because it's if it had a zero foot setback yeah you can you can get rid of the okay the other part because it's
going to be the same thing well you well no go to the one that one again that and page 32 of your going to be the same thing well you well no go to the one that one again that and page 32 of your going to be the same thing well you well no go to the one that one again that and page 32 of your going to be the same thing well you well no go to the one that one again that and page 32 of your going to be the same thing well you well no go to the one that one again that and page 32 of your application show that whole line of the block and i it's not even close in my mind to being application show that whole line of the block and i it's not even close in my mind to being application show that whole line of the block and i it's not even close in my mind to being application show that whole line of the block and i it's not even close in my mind to being application show that whole line of the block and i it's not even close in my mind to being compatible so i'm just trying to get into your head and why you think that is compatible right compatible so i'm just trying to get into your head and why you think that is compatible right compatible so i'm just trying to get into your head and why you think that is compatible right compatible so i'm just trying to get into your head and why you think that is compatible right compatible so i'm just trying to get into your head and why you think that is compatible right
so in our view it's compatible because the compatibility objective 2.9 is a 500 foot radius so in our view it's compatible because the compatibility objective 2.9 is a 500 foot radius so in our view it's compatible because the compatibility objective 2.9 is a 500 foot radius so in our view it's compatible because the compatibility objective 2.9 is a 500 foot radius so in our view it's compatible because the compatibility objective 2.9 is a 500 foot radius this property is now activity center land use and a downtown core zoning it's entitled to 30 units per acre this property is now activity center land use and a downtown core zoning it's entitled to 30 units per acre this property is now activity center land use and a downtown core zoning it's entitled to 30 units per acre this property is now activity center land use and a downtown core zoning it's entitled to 30 units per acre this property is now activity center land use and a downtown core zoning it's entitled to 30 units per acre at 0.21 acres that is uh that is six units and so if the objective is to develop this property at 0.21 acres that is uh that is six units and so if the objective is to develop this property at 0.21 acres that is uh that is six units and so if the objective is to develop this property at 0.21 acres that is uh that is six units and so if the objective is to develop this property at 0.21 acres that is uh that is six units and so if the objective is to develop this property consistent with the land use and the zoning which is what the purpose of land use and zoning are consistent with the land use and the zoning which is what the purpose of land use and zoning are consistent with the land use and the zoning which is what the purpose of land use and zoning are consistent with the land use and the zoning which is what the purpose of land use and zoning are consistent with the land use and the zoning which is what the purpose of land use and zoning are then the height is supportable and compatibility under 2.9 isn't just what exists it's what can exist then the height is supportable and compatibility under 2.9 isn't just what exists it's what can exist then the height is supportable and compatibility under 2.9 isn't just what exists it's what can exist then the height is supportable and compatibility under 2.9 isn't just what exists it's what can exist then the height is supportable and compatibility under 2.9 isn't just what exists it's what can exist under the current uses that's what it says under the current uses you could never redevelop anything under the current uses that's what it says under the current uses you could never redevelop anything under the current uses that's what it says under the current uses you could never redevelop anything under the current uses that's what it says under the current uses you could never redevelop anything under the current uses that's what it says under the current uses you could never redevelop anything to a new code if it was judged on non-conforming properties that don't meet all of the things that to a new code if it was judged on non-conforming properties that don't meet all of the things that to a new code if it was judged on non-conforming properties that don't meet all of the things that to a new code if it was judged on non-conforming properties that don't meet all of the things that to a new code if it was judged on non-conforming properties that don't meet all of the things that we've already talked about and so that's why we didn't go to 46 feet we reduced it to 42 so it's a we've already talked about and so that's why we didn't go to 46 feet we reduced it to 42 so it's a we've already talked about and so that's why we didn't go to 46 feet we reduced it to 42 so it's a we've already talked about and so that's why we didn't go to 46 feet we reduced it to 42 so it's a we've already talked about and so that's why we didn't go to 46 feet we reduced it to 42 so it's a six foot essentially six foot within your discretion it's not a variance it's allowed by the code it's not six foot essentially six foot within your discretion it's not a variance it's allowed by the code it's not six foot essentially six foot within your discretion it's not a variance it's allowed by the code it's not six foot essentially six foot within your discretion it's not a variance it's allowed by the code it's not six foot essentially six foot within your discretion it's not a variance it's allowed by the code it's not a variance something that we're allowed to do with your approval if we prove it to you that that it is the a variance something that we're allowed to do with your approval if we prove it to you that that it is the a variance something that we're allowed to do with your approval if we prove it to you that that it is the a variance something that we're allowed to do with your approval if we prove it to you that that it is the a variance something that we're allowed to do with your approval if we prove it to you that that it is the right thing to do and again i understand it's subjective but if the standard for skinner is going to be right thing to do and again i understand it's subjective but if the standard for skinner is going to be right thing to do and again i understand it's subjective but if the standard for skinner is going to be right thing to do and again i understand it's subjective but if the standard for skinner is going to be right thing to do and again i understand it's subjective but if the standard for skinner is going to be single family homes that are no longer allowed to be developed it's not even a permitted use single family homes that are no longer allowed to be developed it's not even a permitted use single family homes that are no longer allowed to be developed it's not even a permitted use single family homes that are no longer allowed to be developed it's not even a permitted use single family homes that are no longer allowed to be developed it's not even a permitted use then i don't know how skinner is ever going to get redeveloped under a downtown core maybe the whole then i don't know how skinner is ever going to get redeveloped under a downtown core maybe the whole then i don't know how skinner is ever going to get redeveloped under a downtown core maybe the whole then i don't know how skinner is ever going to get redeveloped under a downtown core maybe the whole then i don't know how skinner is ever going to get redeveloped under a downtown core maybe the whole thing should be i'm not i'm not trying to be i'm not trying to be cute it might be something if the thing should be i'm not i'm not trying to be i'm not trying to be cute it might be something if the thing should be i'm not i'm not trying to be i'm not trying to be cute it might be something if the thing should be i'm not i'm not trying to be i'm not trying to be cute it might be something if the thing should be i'm not i'm not trying to be i'm not trying to be cute it might be something if the city's objective is to not have density and height on skinner maybe it should be rezoned to something city's objective is to not have density and height on skinner maybe it should be rezoned to something city's objective is to not have density and height on skinner maybe it should be rezoned to something city's objective is to not have density and height on skinner maybe it should be rezoned to something city's objective is to not have density and height on skinner maybe it should be rezoned to something else we wouldn't want that because we've invested in this property based on the activity center else we wouldn't want that because we've invested in this property based on the activity center else we wouldn't want that because we've invested in this property based on the activity center else we wouldn't want that because we've invested in this property based on the activity center else we wouldn't want that because we've invested in this property based on the activity center and the downtown core zoning that exists and that's what we invested in and that's what we developed to and the downtown core zoning that exists and that's what we invested in and that's what we developed to and the downtown core zoning that exists and that's what we invested in and that's what we developed to and the downtown core zoning that exists and that's what we invested in and that's what we developed to and the downtown core zoning that exists and that's what we invested in and that's what we developed to
thank you brian thank you um okay um okay i think this is time if we have anybody from the public thank you brian thank you um okay um okay i think this is time if we have anybody from the public thank you brian thank you um okay um okay i think this is time if we have anybody from the public thank you brian thank you um okay um okay i think this is time if we have anybody from the public thank you brian thank you um okay um okay i think this is time if we have anybody from the public i do have a question a follow-up question uh sure go ahead and ask it i'll get the public input and we i do have a question a follow-up question uh sure go ahead and ask it i'll get the public input and we i do have a question a follow-up question uh sure go ahead and ask it i'll get the public input and we i do have a question a follow-up question uh sure go ahead and ask it i'll get the public input and we i do have a question a follow-up question uh sure go ahead and ask it i'll get the public input and we
george we've heard um a lot tonight about non-conforming and right and this is a standalone lot george we've heard um a lot tonight about non-conforming and right and this is a standalone lot george we've heard um a lot tonight about non-conforming and right and this is a standalone lot george we've heard um a lot tonight about non-conforming and right and this is a standalone lot george we've heard um a lot tonight about non-conforming and right and this is a standalone lot so it's dirt how can it can dirt be non-conforming i don't want to speak for the applicant but i think so it's dirt how can it can dirt be non-conforming i don't want to speak for the applicant but i think so it's dirt how can it can dirt be non-conforming i don't want to speak for the applicant but i think so it's dirt how can it can dirt be non-conforming i don't want to speak for the applicant but i think so it's dirt how can it can dirt be non-conforming i don't want to speak for the applicant but i think
what they're referring to is non-conforming in the sense that the surrounding properties haven't what they're referring to is non-conforming in the sense that the surrounding properties haven't what they're referring to is non-conforming in the sense that the surrounding properties haven't what they're referring to is non-conforming in the sense that the surrounding properties haven't what they're referring to is non-conforming in the sense that the surrounding properties haven't used that full allotment of the dimensional standards that are permitted in that zoning used that full allotment of the dimensional standards that are permitted in that zoning used that full allotment of the dimensional standards that are permitted in that zoning used that full allotment of the dimensional standards that are permitted in that zoning used that full allotment of the dimensional standards that are permitted in that zoning category in other words they haven't maxed out their height they haven't maxed out their density category in other words they haven't maxed out their height they haven't maxed out their density category in other words they haven't maxed out their height they haven't maxed out their density category in other words they haven't maxed out their height they haven't maxed out their density category in other words they haven't maxed out their height they haven't maxed out their density so i think that's what he's referring to but i you know i um again i would defer to them oh yeah so i think that's what he's referring to but i you know i um again i would defer to them oh yeah so i think that's what he's referring to but i you know i um again i would defer to them oh yeah so i think that's what he's referring to but i you know i um again i would defer to them oh yeah so i think that's what he's referring to but i you know i um again i would defer to them oh yeah
please i'm sorry i thought it was more of a yeah right well i'm referring to and maybe we go to the please i'm sorry i thought it was more of a yeah right well i'm referring to and maybe we go to the please i'm sorry i thought it was more of a yeah right well i'm referring to and maybe we go to the please i'm sorry i thought it was more of a yeah right well i'm referring to and maybe we go to the please i'm sorry i thought it was more of a yeah right well i'm referring to and maybe we go to the
aerial the first aerial but you've seen it it's it's basically um uh you've got a pervious driveway aerial the first aerial but you've seen it it's it's basically um uh you've got a pervious driveway aerial the first aerial but you've seen it it's it's basically um uh you've got a pervious driveway aerial the first aerial but you've seen it it's it's basically um uh you've got a pervious driveway aerial the first aerial but you've seen it it's it's basically um uh you've got a pervious driveway and then you've got a vacant lot that isn't draining it's not it has no stormwater treatment and then you've got a vacant lot that isn't draining it's not it has no stormwater treatment and then you've got a vacant lot that isn't draining it's not it has no stormwater treatment and then you've got a vacant lot that isn't draining it's not it has no stormwater treatment and then you've got a vacant lot that isn't draining it's not it has no stormwater treatment it has uh nothing that is uh up to code in terms of what would be required for a development there and it has uh nothing that is uh up to code in terms of what would be required for a development there and it has uh nothing that is uh up to code in terms of what would be required for a development there and it has uh nothing that is uh up to code in terms of what would be required for a development there and it has uh nothing that is uh up to code in terms of what would be required for a development there and so my main point on that is what we're doing is improving the stormwater and bringing it up to code so my main point on that is what we're doing is improving the stormwater and bringing it up to code so my main point on that is what we're doing is improving the stormwater and bringing it up to code so my main point on that is what we're doing is improving the stormwater and bringing it up to code so my main point on that is what we're doing is improving the stormwater and bringing it up to code for both sites and right now that's non-conforming on either site that's what i'm mainly referring to for both sites and right now that's non-conforming on either site that's what i'm mainly referring to for both sites and right now that's non-conforming on either site that's what i'm mainly referring to for both sites and right now that's non-conforming on either site that's what i'm mainly referring to for both sites and right now that's non-conforming on either site that's what i'm mainly referring to
sir okay but you say it's not conforming on either site right on the site to the rear as well that's sir okay but you say it's not conforming on either site right on the site to the rear as well that's sir okay but you say it's not conforming on either site right on the site to the rear as well that's sir okay but you say it's not conforming on either site right on the site to the rear as well that's sir okay but you say it's not conforming on either site right on the site to the rear as well that's right and so but it goes to the property that you own currently today do you consider it conforming right and so but it goes to the property that you own currently today do you consider it conforming right and so but it goes to the property that you own currently today do you consider it conforming right and so but it goes to the property that you own currently today do you consider it conforming right and so but it goes to the property that you own currently today do you consider it conforming
it's just dirt it's just dirt right i mean i i guess the issue is that we're bringing it up to code it's just dirt it's just dirt right i mean i i guess the issue is that we're bringing it up to code it's just dirt it's just dirt right i mean i i guess the issue is that we're bringing it up to code it's just dirt it's just dirt right i mean i i guess the issue is that we're bringing it up to code it's just dirt it's just dirt right i mean i i guess the issue is that we're bringing it up to code whereas it's not up to code right now for the for that that site and the site to the rear and that's whereas it's not up to code right now for the for that that site and the site to the rear and that's whereas it's not up to code right now for the for that that site and the site to the rear and that's whereas it's not up to code right now for the for that that site and the site to the rear and that's whereas it's not up to code right now for the for that that site and the site to the rear and that's why it's a problem that folks are concerned about that one of that they want to address do codes why it's a problem that folks are concerned about that one of that they want to address do codes why it's a problem that folks are concerned about that one of that they want to address do codes why it's a problem that folks are concerned about that one of that they want to address do codes why it's a problem that folks are concerned about that one of that they want to address do codes
relate to empty lots or is it what is put on there right so perhaps i should have said better we're relate to empty lots or is it what is put on there right so perhaps i should have said better we're relate to empty lots or is it what is put on there right so perhaps i should have said better we're relate to empty lots or is it what is put on there right so perhaps i should have said better we're relate to empty lots or is it what is put on there right so perhaps i should have said better we're bringing it up to code or exceeding code is it it's dirt is it not up to code now i'm i'm i'm i'm bringing it up to code or exceeding code is it it's dirt is it not up to code now i'm i'm i'm i'm bringing it up to code or exceeding code is it it's dirt is it not up to code now i'm i'm i'm i'm bringing it up to code or exceeding code is it it's dirt is it not up to code now i'm i'm i'm i'm bringing it up to code or exceeding code is it it's dirt is it not up to code now i'm i'm i'm i'm
trying to understand yeah no no i i hear what you're saying i hear what you're saying i mean trying to understand yeah no no i i hear what you're saying i hear what you're saying i mean trying to understand yeah no no i i hear what you're saying i hear what you're saying i mean trying to understand yeah no no i i hear what you're saying i hear what you're saying i mean trying to understand yeah no no i i hear what you're saying i hear what you're saying i mean it's not draining more than just a regular piece of dirt would drain it's not necessarily retaining it's not draining more than just a regular piece of dirt would drain it's not necessarily retaining it's not draining more than just a regular piece of dirt would drain it's not necessarily retaining it's not draining more than just a regular piece of dirt would drain it's not necessarily retaining it's not draining more than just a regular piece of dirt would drain it's not necessarily retaining water in a in a big storm uh it's not necessarily draining in an efficient manner um but yes it is water in a in a big storm uh it's not necessarily draining in an efficient manner um but yes it is water in a in a big storm uh it's not necessarily draining in an efficient manner um but yes it is water in a in a big storm uh it's not necessarily draining in an efficient manner um but yes it is water in a in a big storm uh it's not necessarily draining in an efficient manner um but yes it is dirt and i mean if this again we are hoping that it will be eventually redeveloped in a way that is dirt and i mean if this again we are hoping that it will be eventually redeveloped in a way that is dirt and i mean if this again we are hoping that it will be eventually redeveloped in a way that is dirt and i mean if this again we are hoping that it will be eventually redeveloped in a way that is dirt and i mean if this again we are hoping that it will be eventually redeveloped in a way that is
is beneficial to the city thank you sir thank you okay anybody else before we get public input is beneficial to the city thank you sir thank you okay anybody else before we get public input is beneficial to the city thank you sir thank you okay anybody else before we get public input is beneficial to the city thank you sir thank you okay anybody else before we get public input is beneficial to the city thank you sir thank you okay anybody else before we get public input ready okay uh anyone in the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue ready okay uh anyone in the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue ready okay uh anyone in the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue ready okay uh anyone in the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue ready okay uh anyone in the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue and throw a name and address for the record in three minutes hi david david ramsey been a resident and throw a name and address for the record in three minutes hi david david ramsey been a resident and throw a name and address for the record in three minutes hi david david ramsey been a resident and throw a name and address for the record in three minutes hi david david ramsey been a resident and throw a name and address for the record in three minutes hi david david ramsey been a resident
dunedan for over 55 years previous owner of the same property in question the original site plan was dunedan for over 55 years previous owner of the same property in question the original site plan was dunedan for over 55 years previous owner of the same property in question the original site plan was dunedan for over 55 years previous owner of the same property in question the original site plan was dunedan for over 55 years previous owner of the same property in question the original site plan was developed in this proper for this property back in 2000 and approved by the commission for i think a developed in this proper for this property back in 2000 and approved by the commission for i think a developed in this proper for this property back in 2000 and approved by the commission for i think a developed in this proper for this property back in 2000 and approved by the commission for i think a developed in this proper for this property back in 2000 and approved by the commission for i think a total of 11 units i built four of them and then i put it on hold for a while and the gentleman came total of 11 units i built four of them and then i put it on hold for a while and the gentleman came total of 11 units i built four of them and then i put it on hold for a while and the gentleman came total of 11 units i built four of them and then i put it on hold for a while and the gentleman came total of 11 units i built four of them and then i put it on hold for a while and the gentleman came along wanted to purchase it and that's what he's trying to do at this point it's a very good project along wanted to purchase it and that's what he's trying to do at this point it's a very good project along wanted to purchase it and that's what he's trying to do at this point it's a very good project along wanted to purchase it and that's what he's trying to do at this point it's a very good project along wanted to purchase it and that's what he's trying to do at this point it's a very good project it will be very good to the community the compatibility i don't quite understand because it will be very good to the community the compatibility i don't quite understand because it will be very good to the community the compatibility i don't quite understand because it will be very good to the community the compatibility i don't quite understand because it will be very good to the community the compatibility i don't quite understand because the neighborhood is changing you know everything changes in this world the property to the east the neighborhood is changing you know everything changes in this world the property to the east the neighborhood is changing you know everything changes in this world the property to the east the neighborhood is changing you know everything changes in this world the property to the east the neighborhood is changing you know everything changes in this world the property to the east is an old house that was built in the 1920s when i purchased the property in 92 there was three old is an old house that was built in the 1920s when i purchased the property in 92 there was three old is an old house that was built in the 1920s when i purchased the property in 92 there was three old is an old house that was built in the 1920s when i purchased the property in 92 there was three old is an old house that was built in the 1920s when i purchased the property in 92 there was three old houses on the property and i used this my office for a period of time until my foot went through the houses on the property and i used this my office for a period of time until my foot went through the houses on the property and i used this my office for a period of time until my foot went through the houses on the property and i used this my office for a period of time until my foot went through the houses on the property and i used this my office for a period of time until my foot went through the floor and that's when i had to buy a new building and developed a project so i'm very much encouraged floor and that's when i had to buy a new building and developed a project so i'm very much encouraged floor and that's when i had to buy a new building and developed a project so i'm very much encouraged floor and that's when i had to buy a new building and developed a project so i'm very much encouraged floor and that's when i had to buy a new building and developed a project so i'm very much encouraged to see this being done it's better than what i did it's i wish i had thought of this to begin with to see this being done it's better than what i did it's i wish i had thought of this to begin with to see this being done it's better than what i did it's i wish i had thought of this to begin with to see this being done it's better than what i did it's i wish i had thought of this to begin with to see this being done it's better than what i did it's i wish i had thought of this to begin with and it would have been very similar to that any questions to me no but thank you dave appreciate your and it would have been very similar to that any questions to me no but thank you dave appreciate your and it would have been very similar to that any questions to me no but thank you dave appreciate your and it would have been very similar to that any questions to me no but thank you dave appreciate your and it would have been very similar to that any questions to me no but thank you dave appreciate your
input thank you okay anyone else from the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue input thank you okay anyone else from the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue input thank you okay anyone else from the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue input thank you okay anyone else from the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue input thank you okay anyone else from the public wish to come forward and speak on this issue
again name and address for the record and three minutes hi i'm william labree i live at 451 palmetto again name and address for the record and three minutes hi i'm william labree i live at 451 palmetto again name and address for the record and three minutes hi i'm william labree i live at 451 palmetto again name and address for the record and three minutes hi i'm william labree i live at 451 palmetto again name and address for the record and three minutes hi i'm william labree i live at 451 palmetto street i'm in one of the properties directly to the north of the three-story that's there and i just street i'm in one of the properties directly to the north of the three-story that's there and i just street i'm in one of the properties directly to the north of the three-story that's there and i just street i'm in one of the properties directly to the north of the three-story that's there and i just street i'm in one of the properties directly to the north of the three-story that's there and i just think this uh this these gentlemen are right it doesn't fit if you look in the area there's everything's think this uh this these gentlemen are right it doesn't fit if you look in the area there's everything's think this uh this these gentlemen are right it doesn't fit if you look in the area there's everything's think this uh this these gentlemen are right it doesn't fit if you look in the area there's everything's think this uh this these gentlemen are right it doesn't fit if you look in the area there's everything's one and two stories and it's all tastefully uh developed it's not crowded uh this i believe one and two stories and it's all tastefully uh developed it's not crowded uh this i believe one and two stories and it's all tastefully uh developed it's not crowded uh this i believe one and two stories and it's all tastefully uh developed it's not crowded uh this i believe one and two stories and it's all tastefully uh developed it's not crowded uh this i believe is going to be uh it just looks like a parking garage there's nothing tasteful about it and is going to be uh it just looks like a parking garage there's nothing tasteful about it and is going to be uh it just looks like a parking garage there's nothing tasteful about it and is going to be uh it just looks like a parking garage there's nothing tasteful about it and is going to be uh it just looks like a parking garage there's nothing tasteful about it and it's at the highest point on skinner boulevard it's just going to stick out like a sore thumb it's at the highest point on skinner boulevard it's just going to stick out like a sore thumb it's at the highest point on skinner boulevard it's just going to stick out like a sore thumb it's at the highest point on skinner boulevard it's just going to stick out like a sore thumb it's at the highest point on skinner boulevard it's just going to stick out like a sore thumb maybe down the road as things develop more in the area there might be a place for it to fit in but maybe down the road as things develop more in the area there might be a place for it to fit in but maybe down the road as things develop more in the area there might be a place for it to fit in but maybe down the road as things develop more in the area there might be a place for it to fit in but maybe down the road as things develop more in the area there might be a place for it to fit in but right now i would have to say that it just doesn't fit thank you did we get the name yeah good okay right now i would have to say that it just doesn't fit thank you did we get the name yeah good okay right now i would have to say that it just doesn't fit thank you did we get the name yeah good okay right now i would have to say that it just doesn't fit thank you did we get the name yeah good okay right now i would have to say that it just doesn't fit thank you did we get the name yeah good okay
thank you uh anyone else come on down name and address for the record in three minutes excuse me thank you uh anyone else come on down name and address for the record in three minutes excuse me thank you uh anyone else come on down name and address for the record in three minutes excuse me thank you uh anyone else come on down name and address for the record in three minutes excuse me thank you uh anyone else come on down name and address for the record in three minutes excuse me
my name is karen hartenbach i live at 2056 cove trace palm harbor florida we've moved here about 35 my name is karen hartenbach i live at 2056 cove trace palm harbor florida we've moved here about 35 my name is karen hartenbach i live at 2056 cove trace palm harbor florida we've moved here about 35 my name is karen hartenbach i live at 2056 cove trace palm harbor florida we've moved here about 35 my name is karen hartenbach i live at 2056 cove trace palm harbor florida we've moved here about 35 years ago fell in love with we live in palm harbor but have fallen in love with dunneeden ever since we years ago fell in love with we live in palm harbor but have fallen in love with dunneeden ever since we years ago fell in love with we live in palm harbor but have fallen in love with dunneeden ever since we years ago fell in love with we live in palm harbor but have fallen in love with dunneeden ever since we years ago fell in love with we live in palm harbor but have fallen in love with dunneeden ever since we moved here we started investing in dunneeden into single-family homes and everything i do i have pride in and moved here we started investing in dunneeden into single-family homes and everything i do i have pride in and moved here we started investing in dunneeden into single-family homes and everything i do i have pride in and moved here we started investing in dunneeden into single-family homes and everything i do i have pride in and moved here we started investing in dunneeden into single-family homes and everything i do i have pride in and i like the uniqueness and the just how quaint dunneeden is the first three properties i brought i like the uniqueness and the just how quaint dunneeden is the first three properties i brought i like the uniqueness and the just how quaint dunneeden is the first three properties i brought i like the uniqueness and the just how quaint dunneeden is the first three properties i brought i like the uniqueness and the just how quaint dunneeden is the first three properties i brought bought were on virginia street those three that were owned by the hospital you can see that i take pride bought were on virginia street those three that were owned by the hospital you can see that i take pride bought were on virginia street those three that were owned by the hospital you can see that i take pride bought were on virginia street those three that were owned by the hospital you can see that i take pride bought were on virginia street those three that were owned by the hospital you can see that i take pride of my properties there we bought them in 2012 we've invested a lot of money into them they're still top of my properties there we bought them in 2012 we've invested a lot of money into them they're still top of my properties there we bought them in 2012 we've invested a lot of money into them they're still top of my properties there we bought them in 2012 we've invested a lot of money into them they're still top of my properties there we bought them in 2012 we've invested a lot of money into them they're still top of the line by doing that i now own six properties in dunneeden so i feel like i'm well invested into the of the line by doing that i now own six properties in dunneeden so i feel like i'm well invested into the of the line by doing that i now own six properties in dunneeden so i feel like i'm well invested into the of the line by doing that i now own six properties in dunneeden so i feel like i'm well invested into the of the line by doing that i now own six properties in dunneeden so i feel like i'm well invested into the city um the great thing about it is because of the way i keep my properties and how i manage my city um the great thing about it is because of the way i keep my properties and how i manage my city um the great thing about it is because of the way i keep my properties and how i manage my city um the great thing about it is because of the way i keep my properties and how i manage my city um the great thing about it is because of the way i keep my properties and how i manage my properties a lot of the patient or a lot of the customers tenants that i have end up buying properties a lot of the patient or a lot of the customers tenants that i have end up buying properties a lot of the patient or a lot of the customers tenants that i have end up buying properties a lot of the patient or a lot of the customers tenants that i have end up buying properties a lot of the patient or a lot of the customers tenants that i have end up buying properties in dunneeden because they rent at first and then they fall in love with the area so i think properties in dunneeden because they rent at first and then they fall in love with the area so i think properties in dunneeden because they rent at first and then they fall in love with the area so i think properties in dunneeden because they rent at first and then they fall in love with the area so i think properties in dunneeden because they rent at first and then they fall in love with the area so i think i am a big um promoter for dunneeden i think this is unique i think it's well done it's tastefully done i am a big um promoter for dunneeden i think this is unique i think it's well done it's tastefully done i am a big um promoter for dunneeden i think this is unique i think it's well done it's tastefully done i am a big um promoter for dunneeden i think this is unique i think it's well done it's tastefully done i am a big um promoter for dunneeden i think this is unique i think it's well done it's tastefully done i was a little disappointed in some of the other properties that were were built on skinner because i was a little disappointed in some of the other properties that were were built on skinner because i was a little disappointed in some of the other properties that were were built on skinner because i was a little disappointed in some of the other properties that were were built on skinner because i was a little disappointed in some of the other properties that were were built on skinner because there were so many of them and they were cookie cutter and and this piece of property kind of takes us back there were so many of them and they were cookie cutter and and this piece of property kind of takes us back there were so many of them and they were cookie cutter and and this piece of property kind of takes us back there were so many of them and they were cookie cutter and and this piece of property kind of takes us back there were so many of them and they were cookie cutter and and this piece of property kind of takes us back to the uniqueness and how special dunneeden is as far as the compatibility i can't speak on that i'm to the uniqueness and how special dunneeden is as far as the compatibility i can't speak on that i'm to the uniqueness and how special dunneeden is as far as the compatibility i can't speak on that i'm to the uniqueness and how special dunneeden is as far as the compatibility i can't speak on that i'm to the uniqueness and how special dunneeden is as far as the compatibility i can't speak on that i'm nothing like that but i just think this is something that would really add to that area nothing like that but i just think this is something that would really add to that area nothing like that but i just think this is something that would really add to that area nothing like that but i just think this is something that would really add to that area nothing like that but i just think this is something that would really add to that area it's kind of an eyesore that spot right now with the empty lot and i just think this would be it's kind of an eyesore that spot right now with the empty lot and i just think this would be it's kind of an eyesore that spot right now with the empty lot and i just think this would be it's kind of an eyesore that spot right now with the empty lot and i just think this would be it's kind of an eyesore that spot right now with the empty lot and i just think this would be
a great advantage for that area thank you karen thank you anyone else in the audience wish to come a great advantage for that area thank you karen thank you anyone else in the audience wish to come a great advantage for that area thank you karen thank you anyone else in the audience wish to come a great advantage for that area thank you karen thank you anyone else in the audience wish to come a great advantage for that area thank you karen thank you anyone else in the audience wish to come
forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes christopher jallo uh 1410 forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes christopher jallo uh 1410 forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes christopher jallo uh 1410 forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes christopher jallo uh 1410 forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes christopher jallo uh 1410 main street 1420 main street 1428 main street and 1144 friendly lane i own all four of those main street 1420 main street 1428 main street and 1144 friendly lane i own all four of those main street 1420 main street 1428 main street and 1144 friendly lane i own all four of those main street 1420 main street 1428 main street and 1144 friendly lane i own all four of those main street 1420 main street 1428 main street and 1144 friendly lane i own all four of those properties currently um first mayor madam mayor vice mayor thank you for allowing me to speak uh members properties currently um first mayor madam mayor vice mayor thank you for allowing me to speak uh members properties currently um first mayor madam mayor vice mayor thank you for allowing me to speak uh members properties currently um first mayor madam mayor vice mayor thank you for allowing me to speak uh members properties currently um first mayor madam mayor vice mayor thank you for allowing me to speak uh members of the commission thank you for allowing me to be here um i as a developer i also happen to be a real of the commission thank you for allowing me to be here um i as a developer i also happen to be a real of the commission thank you for allowing me to be here um i as a developer i also happen to be a real of the commission thank you for allowing me to be here um i as a developer i also happen to be a real of the commission thank you for allowing me to be here um i as a developer i also happen to be a real estate construction and commercial attorney both transactionally and as a litigator in my experience estate construction and commercial attorney both transactionally and as a litigator in my experience estate construction and commercial attorney both transactionally and as a litigator in my experience estate construction and commercial attorney both transactionally and as a litigator in my experience estate construction and commercial attorney both transactionally and as a litigator in my experience i'm also a property owner and a real estate developer currently i also happen to own and i'm also a property owner and a real estate developer currently i also happen to own and i'm also a property owner and a real estate developer currently i also happen to own and i'm also a property owner and a real estate developer currently i also happen to own and i'm also a property owner and a real estate developer currently i also happen to own and operate lucan's wine and spirits that is at 1410 main street um i've been in florida since 1990 i uh dunedin operate lucan's wine and spirits that is at 1410 main street um i've been in florida since 1990 i uh dunedin operate lucan's wine and spirits that is at 1410 main street um i've been in florida since 1990 i uh dunedin operate lucan's wine and spirits that is at 1410 main street um i've been in florida since 1990 i uh dunedin operate lucan's wine and spirits that is at 1410 main street um i've been in florida since 1990 i uh dunedin has been my backyard since i moved here the marinas the causeway uh on boats and wayburners with my family has been my backyard since i moved here the marinas the causeway uh on boats and wayburners with my family has been my backyard since i moved here the marinas the causeway uh on boats and wayburners with my family has been my backyard since i moved here the marinas the causeway uh on boats and wayburners with my family has been my backyard since i moved here the marinas the causeway uh on boats and wayburners with my family i have a pride and passion for dunedin we only purchased lucan's wine and spirits in 2007. i have a pride and passion for dunedin we only purchased lucan's wine and spirits in 2007. i have a pride and passion for dunedin we only purchased lucan's wine and spirits in 2007. i have a pride and passion for dunedin we only purchased lucan's wine and spirits in 2007. i have a pride and passion for dunedin we only purchased lucan's wine and spirits in 2007. so i i mean i take pride in what you guys have done to better the community and i do think the city so i i mean i take pride in what you guys have done to better the community and i do think the city so i i mean i take pride in what you guys have done to better the community and i do think the city so i i mean i take pride in what you guys have done to better the community and i do think the city so i i mean i take pride in what you guys have done to better the community and i do think the city staff work tirelessly it's sometimes a thankful job even for you all but that doesn't mean the city staff work tirelessly it's sometimes a thankful job even for you all but that doesn't mean the city staff work tirelessly it's sometimes a thankful job even for you all but that doesn't mean the city staff work tirelessly it's sometimes a thankful job even for you all but that doesn't mean the city staff work tirelessly it's sometimes a thankful job even for you all but that doesn't mean the city staff is always right and it doesn't mean that their recommendations are always correct there's staff is always right and it doesn't mean that their recommendations are always correct there's staff is always right and it doesn't mean that their recommendations are always correct there's staff is always right and it doesn't mean that their recommendations are always correct there's staff is always right and it doesn't mean that their recommendations are always correct there's countless amount of projects that do get recommended over their recommendation for denial or even countless amount of projects that do get recommended over their recommendation for denial or even countless amount of projects that do get recommended over their recommendation for denial or even countless amount of projects that do get recommended over their recommendation for denial or even countless amount of projects that do get recommended over their recommendation for denial or even approval sometimes they get denied when they recommend approval um and i had some trouble as a approval sometimes they get denied when they recommend approval um and i had some trouble as a approval sometimes they get denied when they recommend approval um and i had some trouble as a approval sometimes they get denied when they recommend approval um and i had some trouble as a approval sometimes they get denied when they recommend approval um and i had some trouble as a developer in a property owner in a city you need and hearing some of the things i heard here today developer in a property owner in a city you need and hearing some of the things i heard here today developer in a property owner in a city you need and hearing some of the things i heard here today developer in a property owner in a city you need and hearing some of the things i heard here today developer in a property owner in a city you need and hearing some of the things i heard here today knowing the code as well as i do because i've developed in this city that just because they knowing the code as well as i do because i've developed in this city that just because they knowing the code as well as i do because i've developed in this city that just because they knowing the code as well as i do because i've developed in this city that just because they knowing the code as well as i do because i've developed in this city that just because they recommend denial how dare it pass through arc lpa the commission what's the purpose of arc lpa and this recommend denial how dare it pass through arc lpa the commission what's the purpose of arc lpa and this recommend denial how dare it pass through arc lpa the commission what's the purpose of arc lpa and this recommend denial how dare it pass through arc lpa the commission what's the purpose of arc lpa and this recommend denial how dare it pass through arc lpa the commission what's the purpose of arc lpa and this commission if we overlook what arc recommended for approval they recommend their charge if you look commission if we overlook what arc recommended for approval they recommend their charge if you look commission if we overlook what arc recommended for approval they recommend their charge if you look commission if we overlook what arc recommended for approval they recommend their charge if you look commission if we overlook what arc recommended for approval they recommend their charge if you look at their charter to review compatibility the compatibility analysis and study and determine at their charter to review compatibility the compatibility analysis and study and determine at their charter to review compatibility the compatibility analysis and study and determine at their charter to review compatibility the compatibility analysis and study and determine at their charter to review compatibility the compatibility analysis and study and determine if it's compatible they approved it they didn't approve it with conditions to come back to them if it's compatible they approved it they didn't approve it with conditions to come back to them if it's compatible they approved it they didn't approve it with conditions to come back to them if it's compatible they approved it they didn't approve it with conditions to come back to them if it's compatible they approved it they didn't approve it with conditions to come back to them they approved it with conditions to go to lpa over staff's recommendation for denial these are they approved it with conditions to go to lpa over staff's recommendation for denial these are they approved it with conditions to go to lpa over staff's recommendation for denial these are they approved it with conditions to go to lpa over staff's recommendation for denial these are they approved it with conditions to go to lpa over staff's recommendation for denial these are architects landscape architects went to the lpa they also reviewed it they reviewed all the efforts that architects landscape architects went to the lpa they also reviewed it they reviewed all the efforts that architects landscape architects went to the lpa they also reviewed it they reviewed all the efforts that architects landscape architects went to the lpa they also reviewed it they reviewed all the efforts that architects landscape architects went to the lpa they also reviewed it they reviewed all the efforts that the property owner went to meet that compatibility both height design undulations roofs efficiency solar the property owner went to meet that compatibility both height design undulations roofs efficiency solar the property owner went to meet that compatibility both height design undulations roofs efficiency solar the property owner went to meet that compatibility both height design undulations roofs efficiency solar the property owner went to meet that compatibility both height design undulations roofs efficiency solar panels parking i drove i drove on my way here through storms and rains every street an antiquated panels parking i drove i drove on my way here through storms and rains every street an antiquated panels parking i drove i drove on my way here through storms and rains every street an antiquated panels parking i drove i drove on my way here through storms and rains every street an antiquated panels parking i drove i drove on my way here through storms and rains every street an antiquated street in the city of dunedin with older homes was completely flooded i drive an suv i was able to street in the city of dunedin with older homes was completely flooded i drive an suv i was able to street in the city of dunedin with older homes was completely flooded i drive an suv i was able to street in the city of dunedin with older homes was completely flooded i drive an suv i was able to street in the city of dunedin with older homes was completely flooded i drive an suv i was able to drive over that flood they are they are putting in a storm water system we did that our property drive over that flood they are they are putting in a storm water system we did that our property drive over that flood they are they are putting in a storm water system we did that our property drive over that flood they are they are putting in a storm water system we did that our property drive over that flood they are they are putting in a storm water system we did that our property at 1410 main street that property was completely flooded when we purchased it it was vagrants it at 1410 main street that property was completely flooded when we purchased it it was vagrants it at 1410 main street that property was completely flooded when we purchased it it was vagrants it at 1410 main street that property was completely flooded when we purchased it it was vagrants it at 1410 main street that property was completely flooded when we purchased it it was vagrants it was homelessness and drug use there is not a stench of water that remains on that property after we was homelessness and drug use there is not a stench of water that remains on that property after we was homelessness and drug use there is not a stench of water that remains on that property after we was homelessness and drug use there is not a stench of water that remains on that property after we was homelessness and drug use there is not a stench of water that remains on that property after we storm watered it for the betterment of the entire community around us the homes around us the homes to storm watered it for the betterment of the entire community around us the homes around us the homes to storm watered it for the betterment of the entire community around us the homes around us the homes to storm watered it for the betterment of the entire community around us the homes around us the homes to storm watered it for the betterment of the entire community around us the homes around us the homes to our rear and and so when i when i see a developer taking that much effort to meet that compatibility to our rear and and so when i when i see a developer taking that much effort to meet that compatibility to our rear and and so when i when i see a developer taking that much effort to meet that compatibility to our rear and and so when i when i see a developer taking that much effort to meet that compatibility to our rear and and so when i when i see a developer taking that much effort to meet that compatibility to
try to better the community and it's just going to be overlooked or denied i hope that the commission try to better the community and it's just going to be overlooked or denied i hope that the commission try to better the community and it's just going to be overlooked or denied i hope that the commission try to better the community and it's just going to be overlooked or denied i hope that the commission try to better the community and it's just going to be overlooked or denied i hope that the commission can approve them i know my time is up i just think that most developers don't take their pride in what can approve them i know my time is up i just think that most developers don't take their pride in what can approve them i know my time is up i just think that most developers don't take their pride in what can approve them i know my time is up i just think that most developers don't take their pride in what can approve them i know my time is up i just think that most developers don't take their pride in what they do and i think they have so i would recommend thank you appreciate that anyone else wish to come they do and i think they have so i would recommend thank you appreciate that anyone else wish to come they do and i think they have so i would recommend thank you appreciate that anyone else wish to come they do and i think they have so i would recommend thank you appreciate that anyone else wish to come they do and i think they have so i would recommend thank you appreciate that anyone else wish to come
forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes sabra rosen and i live forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes sabra rosen and i live forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes sabra rosen and i live forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes sabra rosen and i live forward and speak on this issue name and address for the record in three minutes sabra rosen and i live at 445 palmetto street the one that's directly behind the current existing property i've lived in florida at 445 palmetto street the one that's directly behind the current existing property i've lived in florida at 445 palmetto street the one that's directly behind the current existing property i've lived in florida at 445 palmetto street the one that's directly behind the current existing property i've lived in florida at 445 palmetto street the one that's directly behind the current existing property i've lived in florida for 33 years of my 40 years of life and i moved back four years ago i've seen some wonderful changes and for 33 years of my 40 years of life and i moved back four years ago i've seen some wonderful changes and for 33 years of my 40 years of life and i moved back four years ago i've seen some wonderful changes and for 33 years of my 40 years of life and i moved back four years ago i've seen some wonderful changes and for 33 years of my 40 years of life and i moved back four years ago i've seen some wonderful changes and then some really awful ones like this um my home and other homes are already affected the flooding then some really awful ones like this um my home and other homes are already affected the flooding then some really awful ones like this um my home and other homes are already affected the flooding then some really awful ones like this um my home and other homes are already affected the flooding then some really awful ones like this um my home and other homes are already affected the flooding is not on the street it's in the backyard it's clearly coming from there um and all of us are is not on the street it's in the backyard it's clearly coming from there um and all of us are is not on the street it's in the backyard it's clearly coming from there um and all of us are is not on the street it's in the backyard it's clearly coming from there um and all of us are is not on the street it's in the backyard it's clearly coming from there um and all of us are affected by this um we um let's see the building is only 10 feet from my property line um it was constructed affected by this um we um let's see the building is only 10 feet from my property line um it was constructed affected by this um we um let's see the building is only 10 feet from my property line um it was constructed affected by this um we um let's see the building is only 10 feet from my property line um it was constructed affected by this um we um let's see the building is only 10 feet from my property line um it was constructed after the homes around it were built um and then what's going to happen during construction um i'm after the homes around it were built um and then what's going to happen during construction um i'm after the homes around it were built um and then what's going to happen during construction um i'm after the homes around it were built um and then what's going to happen during construction um i'm after the homes around it were built um and then what's going to happen during construction um i'm assuming there will be more flooding that you guys will hopefully pay for any damages um assuming there will be more flooding that you guys will hopefully pay for any damages um assuming there will be more flooding that you guys will hopefully pay for any damages um assuming there will be more flooding that you guys will hopefully pay for any damages um assuming there will be more flooding that you guys will hopefully pay for any damages um i heard that the land at 434 and 444 was artificially raised and currently it stands at two feet two i heard that the land at 434 and 444 was artificially raised and currently it stands at two feet two i heard that the land at 434 and 444 was artificially raised and currently it stands at two feet two i heard that the land at 434 and 444 was artificially raised and currently it stands at two feet two i heard that the land at 434 and 444 was artificially raised and currently it stands at two feet two inches above the height of my backyard um there's a retaining wall that's already starting to deteriorate inches above the height of my backyard um there's a retaining wall that's already starting to deteriorate inches above the height of my backyard um there's a retaining wall that's already starting to deteriorate inches above the height of my backyard um there's a retaining wall that's already starting to deteriorate inches above the height of my backyard um there's a retaining wall that's already starting to deteriorate i have concerns about the stability of the ground especially if we dig you know the foundation and i have concerns about the stability of the ground especially if we dig you know the foundation and i have concerns about the stability of the ground especially if we dig you know the foundation and i have concerns about the stability of the ground especially if we dig you know the foundation and i have concerns about the stability of the ground especially if we dig you know the foundation and the water reservoir um i can only imagine that it will exacerbate this problem i just received my final the water reservoir um i can only imagine that it will exacerbate this problem i just received my final the water reservoir um i can only imagine that it will exacerbate this problem i just received my final the water reservoir um i can only imagine that it will exacerbate this problem i just received my final the water reservoir um i can only imagine that it will exacerbate this problem i just received my final quote for extensive renovations on my house for 30 330 000 and now i wonder if it's worth putting money quote for extensive renovations on my house for 30 330 000 and now i wonder if it's worth putting money quote for extensive renovations on my house for 30 330 000 and now i wonder if it's worth putting money quote for extensive renovations on my house for 30 330 000 and now i wonder if it's worth putting money quote for extensive renovations on my house for 30 330 000 and now i wonder if it's worth putting money into my house i know my neighbor just did a huge project as well um these houses are not just dilapidated into my house i know my neighbor just did a huge project as well um these houses are not just dilapidated into my house i know my neighbor just did a huge project as well um these houses are not just dilapidated into my house i know my neighbor just did a huge project as well um these houses are not just dilapidated into my house i know my neighbor just did a huge project as well um these houses are not just dilapidated houses there's yes there's one or two on skinner that could be redone but there's lovely office houses there's yes there's one or two on skinner that could be redone but there's lovely office houses there's yes there's one or two on skinner that could be redone but there's lovely office houses there's yes there's one or two on skinner that could be redone but there's lovely office houses there's yes there's one or two on skinner that could be redone but there's lovely office buildings restaurants it's great um like everyone said or some people have said it looks like a giant buildings restaurants it's great um like everyone said or some people have said it looks like a giant buildings restaurants it's great um like everyone said or some people have said it looks like a giant buildings restaurants it's great um like everyone said or some people have said it looks like a giant buildings restaurants it's great um like everyone said or some people have said it looks like a giant parking garage someone on facebook commented that it looks like a prison um doesn't fit in with the parking garage someone on facebook commented that it looks like a prison um doesn't fit in with the parking garage someone on facebook commented that it looks like a prison um doesn't fit in with the parking garage someone on facebook commented that it looks like a prison um doesn't fit in with the parking garage someone on facebook commented that it looks like a prison um doesn't fit in with the charm of dunedin um and there's no reason to build something so huge during the last meeting the charm of dunedin um and there's no reason to build something so huge during the last meeting the charm of dunedin um and there's no reason to build something so huge during the last meeting the charm of dunedin um and there's no reason to build something so huge during the last meeting the charm of dunedin um and there's no reason to build something so huge during the last meeting the developer himself said he had to make this uh building four stories and eliminate the setbacks developer himself said he had to make this uh building four stories and eliminate the setbacks developer himself said he had to make this uh building four stories and eliminate the setbacks developer himself said he had to make this uh building four stories and eliminate the setbacks developer himself said he had to make this uh building four stories and eliminate the setbacks or whatever um so he can make more money um a two store and you can go back and listen to the uh the or whatever um so he can make more money um a two store and you can go back and listen to the uh the or whatever um so he can make more money um a two store and you can go back and listen to the uh the or whatever um so he can make more money um a two store and you can go back and listen to the uh the or whatever um so he can make more money um a two store and you can go back and listen to the uh the video a two-story building with an adequate setback would be much more appropriate but ultimately not as video a two-story building with an adequate setback would be much more appropriate but ultimately not as video a two-story building with an adequate setback would be much more appropriate but ultimately not as video a two-story building with an adequate setback would be much more appropriate but ultimately not as video a two-story building with an adequate setback would be much more appropriate but ultimately not as profitable um we all know that these units will be turned into unnecessary short-term rental properties profitable um we all know that these units will be turned into unnecessary short-term rental properties profitable um we all know that these units will be turned into unnecessary short-term rental properties profitable um we all know that these units will be turned into unnecessary short-term rental properties profitable um we all know that these units will be turned into unnecessary short-term rental properties instead of permanent housing which is badly needed and i'm definitely not looking forward to getting instead of permanent housing which is badly needed and i'm definitely not looking forward to getting instead of permanent housing which is badly needed and i'm definitely not looking forward to getting instead of permanent housing which is badly needed and i'm definitely not looking forward to getting instead of permanent housing which is badly needed and i'm definitely not looking forward to getting caught behind the garbage and recycling trucks while they pick up 14 bins it also seems that only caught behind the garbage and recycling trucks while they pick up 14 bins it also seems that only caught behind the garbage and recycling trucks while they pick up 14 bins it also seems that only caught behind the garbage and recycling trucks while they pick up 14 bins it also seems that only caught behind the garbage and recycling trucks while they pick up 14 bins it also seems that only developers are supporting this project no locals hopefully we can show these developers that dunedin is developers are supporting this project no locals hopefully we can show these developers that dunedin is developers are supporting this project no locals hopefully we can show these developers that dunedin is developers are supporting this project no locals hopefully we can show these developers that dunedin is developers are supporting this project no locals hopefully we can show these developers that dunedin is not for sale this is happening to a lot of people and we're just setting a precedent for skinner in the not for sale this is happening to a lot of people and we're just setting a precedent for skinner in the not for sale this is happening to a lot of people and we're just setting a precedent for skinner in the not for sale this is happening to a lot of people and we're just setting a precedent for skinner in the not for sale this is happening to a lot of people and we're just setting a precedent for skinner in the surrounding areas um i posted concerns on facebook lots of people said comments like the pictures surrounding areas um i posted concerns on facebook lots of people said comments like the pictures surrounding areas um i posted concerns on facebook lots of people said comments like the pictures surrounding areas um i posted concerns on facebook lots of people said comments like the pictures surrounding areas um i posted concerns on facebook lots of people said comments like the pictures don't fit the area this place is turning into one huge multi-family complex like tampa don't fit the area this place is turning into one huge multi-family complex like tampa don't fit the area this place is turning into one huge multi-family complex like tampa don't fit the area this place is turning into one huge multi-family complex like tampa don't fit the area this place is turning into one huge multi-family complex like tampa the priorities don't align with small town values it's just build build build i hate how dunedin is the priorities don't align with small town values it's just build build build i hate how dunedin is the priorities don't align with small town values it's just build build build i hate how dunedin is the priorities don't align with small town values it's just build build build i hate how dunedin is the priorities don't align with small town values it's just build build build i hate how dunedin is turning into madeira and so on thank you thank you very much thank you anyone else in the audience wish to turning into madeira and so on thank you thank you very much thank you anyone else in the audience wish to turning into madeira and so on thank you thank you very much thank you anyone else in the audience wish to turning into madeira and so on thank you thank you very much thank you anyone else in the audience wish to turning into madeira and so on thank you thank you very much thank you anyone else in the audience wish to
come forward and speak on this issue okay seeing no one i will close uh that public uh input and um come forward and speak on this issue okay seeing no one i will close uh that public uh input and um come forward and speak on this issue okay seeing no one i will close uh that public uh input and um come forward and speak on this issue okay seeing no one i will close uh that public uh input and um come forward and speak on this issue okay seeing no one i will close uh that public uh input and um i don't think there was anything that you all need to respond to was there if i might may there's just i don't think there was anything that you all need to respond to was there if i might may there's just i don't think there was anything that you all need to respond to was there if i might may there's just i don't think there was anything that you all need to respond to was there if i might may there's just i don't think there was anything that you all need to respond to was there if i might may there's just
a couple clarifications i want i would like to very quickly make okay number one uh you know i heard the a couple clarifications i want i would like to very quickly make okay number one uh you know i heard the a couple clarifications i want i would like to very quickly make okay number one uh you know i heard the a couple clarifications i want i would like to very quickly make okay number one uh you know i heard the a couple clarifications i want i would like to very quickly make okay number one uh you know i heard the term catalyst again so you know i would argue the catalyst already occurred when you look across the term catalyst again so you know i would argue the catalyst already occurred when you look across the term catalyst again so you know i would argue the catalyst already occurred when you look across the term catalyst again so you know i would argue the catalyst already occurred when you look across the term catalyst again so you know i would argue the catalyst already occurred when you look across the street of highlands crossing and you see a relatively new two-story development over there so to me that is street of highlands crossing and you see a relatively new two-story development over there so to me that is street of highlands crossing and you see a relatively new two-story development over there so to me that is street of highlands crossing and you see a relatively new two-story development over there so to me that is street of highlands crossing and you see a relatively new two-story development over there so to me that is the catalyst that's kind of spurring this particular area i heard reference to flats on maine if you'll the catalyst that's kind of spurring this particular area i heard reference to flats on maine if you'll the catalyst that's kind of spurring this particular area i heard reference to flats on maine if you'll the catalyst that's kind of spurring this particular area i heard reference to flats on maine if you'll the catalyst that's kind of spurring this particular area i heard reference to flats on maine if you'll recall flats on maine where it's adjacent to that residential area those were unincorporated properties recall flats on maine where it's adjacent to that residential area those were unincorporated properties recall flats on maine where it's adjacent to that residential area those were unincorporated properties recall flats on maine where it's adjacent to that residential area those were unincorporated properties recall flats on maine where it's adjacent to that residential area those were unincorporated properties which had which allowed the residential height to be much higher than what is normally permitted in which had which allowed the residential height to be much higher than what is normally permitted in which had which allowed the residential height to be much higher than what is normally permitted in which had which allowed the residential height to be much higher than what is normally permitted in which had which allowed the residential height to be much higher than what is normally permitted in the city of dunedin and again context that's along a four-lane divided highway with heavy commercial the city of dunedin and again context that's along a four-lane divided highway with heavy commercial the city of dunedin and again context that's along a four-lane divided highway with heavy commercial the city of dunedin and again context that's along a four-lane divided highway with heavy commercial the city of dunedin and again context that's along a four-lane divided highway with heavy commercial influence towards the front portion of that one i heard a comparison to the downtown industrial influence towards the front portion of that one i heard a comparison to the downtown industrial influence towards the front portion of that one i heard a comparison to the downtown industrial influence towards the front portion of that one i heard a comparison to the downtown industrial influence towards the front portion of that one i heard a comparison to the downtown industrial parking garage that they're doing on douglas you know downtown industrial allows 52 feet in height parking garage that they're doing on douglas you know downtown industrial allows 52 feet in height parking garage that they're doing on douglas you know downtown industrial allows 52 feet in height parking garage that they're doing on douglas you know downtown industrial allows 52 feet in height parking garage that they're doing on douglas you know downtown industrial allows 52 feet in height we landed at 43 feet on height because right next to it is the artisan and we said no higher than the we landed at 43 feet on height because right next to it is the artisan and we said no higher than the we landed at 43 feet on height because right next to it is the artisan and we said no higher than the we landed at 43 feet on height because right next to it is the artisan and we said no higher than the we landed at 43 feet on height because right next to it is the artisan and we said no higher than the artisan that's that compatibility tech test in in concert with the context of that particular area artisan that's that compatibility tech test in in concert with the context of that particular area artisan that's that compatibility tech test in in concert with the context of that particular area artisan that's that compatibility tech test in in concert with the context of that particular area artisan that's that compatibility tech test in in concert with the context of that particular area i also heard 36 foot in height is kind of automatic again it's not you know even if it was 36 feet that i also heard 36 foot in height is kind of automatic again it's not you know even if it was 36 feet that i also heard 36 foot in height is kind of automatic again it's not you know even if it was 36 feet that i also heard 36 foot in height is kind of automatic again it's not you know even if it was 36 feet that i also heard 36 foot in height is kind of automatic again it's not you know even if it was 36 feet that compatibility test must still be met it has to meet those provisions um i heard about the arc and their compatibility test must still be met it has to meet those provisions um i heard about the arc and their compatibility test must still be met it has to meet those provisions um i heard about the arc and their compatibility test must still be met it has to meet those provisions um i heard about the arc and their compatibility test must still be met it has to meet those provisions um i heard about the arc and their compatibility analysis their compatibility analysis is is related to architecture not land use that's compatibility analysis their compatibility analysis is is related to architecture not land use that's compatibility analysis their compatibility analysis is is related to architecture not land use that's compatibility analysis their compatibility analysis is is related to architecture not land use that's compatibility analysis their compatibility analysis is is related to architecture not land use that's our function so that's why you're getting our fun our our compatibility test is this arc is looking at our function so that's why you're getting our fun our our compatibility test is this arc is looking at our function so that's why you're getting our fun our our compatibility test is this arc is looking at our function so that's why you're getting our fun our our compatibility test is this arc is looking at our function so that's why you're getting our fun our our compatibility test is this arc is looking at to see if it's compatible architecturally within that environment um i i think that covers most of what i to see if it's compatible architecturally within that environment um i i think that covers most of what i to see if it's compatible architecturally within that environment um i i think that covers most of what i to see if it's compatible architecturally within that environment um i i think that covers most of what i to see if it's compatible architecturally within that environment um i i think that covers most of what i heard i just want to just might want to clarify those those particular points to make sure that heard i just want to just might want to clarify those those particular points to make sure that heard i just want to just might want to clarify those those particular points to make sure that heard i just want to just might want to clarify those those particular points to make sure that heard i just want to just might want to clarify those those particular points to make sure that
there's no confusion there okay um thank you thank you for that i was wondering about the 36 uh feet there's no confusion there okay um thank you thank you for that i was wondering about the 36 uh feet there's no confusion there okay um thank you thank you for that i was wondering about the 36 uh feet there's no confusion there okay um thank you thank you for that i was wondering about the 36 uh feet there's no confusion there okay um thank you thank you for that i was wondering about the 36 uh feet issue um brian any yes posing briefly just in rebuttal or to address comments um may i so madam mayor issue um brian any yes posing briefly just in rebuttal or to address comments um may i so madam mayor issue um brian any yes posing briefly just in rebuttal or to address comments um may i so madam mayor issue um brian any yes posing briefly just in rebuttal or to address comments um may i so madam mayor issue um brian any yes posing briefly just in rebuttal or to address comments um may i so madam mayor
um respectfully again there are many uh many dunedin residents who support this project they're on your arc um respectfully again there are many uh many dunedin residents who support this project they're on your arc um respectfully again there are many uh many dunedin residents who support this project they're on your arc um respectfully again there are many uh many dunedin residents who support this project they're on your arc um respectfully again there are many uh many dunedin residents who support this project they're on your arc and they're on your lpa and they're dunedin property owners that were here tonight that support the and they're on your lpa and they're dunedin property owners that were here tonight that support the and they're on your lpa and they're dunedin property owners that were here tonight that support the and they're on your lpa and they're dunedin property owners that were here tonight that support the and they're on your lpa and they're dunedin property owners that were here tonight that support the project and respectfully this is a quote directly from the arc minutes based on the applicant's project and respectfully this is a quote directly from the arc minutes based on the applicant's project and respectfully this is a quote directly from the arc minutes based on the applicant's project and respectfully this is a quote directly from the arc minutes based on the applicant's project and respectfully this is a quote directly from the arc minutes based on the applicant's compatibility analysis which was about height that was a compatibility analysis that analyzed the height compatibility analysis which was about height that was a compatibility analysis that analyzed the height compatibility analysis which was about height that was a compatibility analysis that analyzed the height compatibility analysis which was about height that was a compatibility analysis that analyzed the height compatibility analysis which was about height that was a compatibility analysis that analyzed the height in the area the proposed project is compatible with the surrounding area and i can tell you from in the area the proposed project is compatible with the surrounding area and i can tell you from in the area the proposed project is compatible with the surrounding area and i can tell you from in the area the proposed project is compatible with the surrounding area and i can tell you from in the area the proposed project is compatible with the surrounding area and i can tell you from going through main street exchange that height was a significant issue and the transition there is a going through main street exchange that height was a significant issue and the transition there is a going through main street exchange that height was a significant issue and the transition there is a going through main street exchange that height was a significant issue and the transition there is a going through main street exchange that height was a significant issue and the transition there is a transition to the residential neighborhood that exists which is that three-story building in the rear transition to the residential neighborhood that exists which is that three-story building in the rear transition to the residential neighborhood that exists which is that three-story building in the rear transition to the residential neighborhood that exists which is that three-story building in the rear transition to the residential neighborhood that exists which is that three-story building in the rear that seems to be the source of many complaints which is why the lpa very thoughtfully said you know what that seems to be the source of many complaints which is why the lpa very thoughtfully said you know what that seems to be the source of many complaints which is why the lpa very thoughtfully said you know what that seems to be the source of many complaints which is why the lpa very thoughtfully said you know what that seems to be the source of many complaints which is why the lpa very thoughtfully said you know what you can do to make this project better you can solve that problem you can spend an extra 300 000 and put in you can do to make this project better you can solve that problem you can spend an extra 300 000 and put in you can do to make this project better you can solve that problem you can spend an extra 300 000 and put in you can do to make this project better you can solve that problem you can spend an extra 300 000 and put in you can do to make this project better you can solve that problem you can spend an extra 300 000 and put in a storm resistant vault for that neighborhood that currently has a problem if this project doesn't move a storm resistant vault for that neighborhood that currently has a problem if this project doesn't move a storm resistant vault for that neighborhood that currently has a problem if this project doesn't move a storm resistant vault for that neighborhood that currently has a problem if this project doesn't move a storm resistant vault for that neighborhood that currently has a problem if this project doesn't move forward that problem is going to continue to exist and something hopefully will eventually be developed forward that problem is going to continue to exist and something hopefully will eventually be developed forward that problem is going to continue to exist and something hopefully will eventually be developed forward that problem is going to continue to exist and something hopefully will eventually be developed forward that problem is going to continue to exist and something hopefully will eventually be developed here but at a height of two stories there's no way that you're going to be able to put in a 300 000 here but at a height of two stories there's no way that you're going to be able to put in a 300 000 here but at a height of two stories there's no way that you're going to be able to put in a 300 000 here but at a height of two stories there's no way that you're going to be able to put in a 300 000 here but at a height of two stories there's no way that you're going to be able to put in a 300 000 storm vault i mean i don't know how i don't know how that stormwater issue or that structured parking storm vault i mean i don't know how i don't know how that stormwater issue or that structured parking storm vault i mean i don't know how i don't know how that stormwater issue or that structured parking storm vault i mean i don't know how i don't know how that stormwater issue or that structured parking storm vault i mean i don't know how i don't know how that stormwater issue or that structured parking issue can be code compliant without that extra six feet of height which again is the minimum that our issue can be code compliant without that extra six feet of height which again is the minimum that our issue can be code compliant without that extra six feet of height which again is the minimum that our issue can be code compliant without that extra six feet of height which again is the minimum that our issue can be code compliant without that extra six feet of height which again is the minimum that our architect who's a very good architect who again was able to address these issue with the arc and with architect who's a very good architect who again was able to address these issue with the arc and with architect who's a very good architect who again was able to address these issue with the arc and with architect who's a very good architect who again was able to address these issue with the arc and with architect who's a very good architect who again was able to address these issue with the arc and with the lpa to their satisfaction and uh just briefly again we believe and hope and we first off i very the lpa to their satisfaction and uh just briefly again we believe and hope and we first off i very the lpa to their satisfaction and uh just briefly again we believe and hope and we first off i very the lpa to their satisfaction and uh just briefly again we believe and hope and we first off i very the lpa to their satisfaction and uh just briefly again we believe and hope and we first off i very much appreciate you all keeping an open mind i very much appreciate that if i didn't believe in the much appreciate you all keeping an open mind i very much appreciate that if i didn't believe in the much appreciate you all keeping an open mind i very much appreciate that if i didn't believe in the much appreciate you all keeping an open mind i very much appreciate that if i didn't believe in the much appreciate you all keeping an open mind i very much appreciate that if i didn't believe in the project i would not be here if i didn't believe it was supportable i would not be here and i understand project i would not be here if i didn't believe it was supportable i would not be here and i understand project i would not be here if i didn't believe it was supportable i would not be here and i understand project i would not be here if i didn't believe it was supportable i would not be here and i understand project i would not be here if i didn't believe it was supportable i would not be here and i understand that we can have a respectful disagreement of opinion and uh and and and respect each other at the end of that we can have a respectful disagreement of opinion and uh and and and respect each other at the end of that we can have a respectful disagreement of opinion and uh and and and respect each other at the end of that we can have a respectful disagreement of opinion and uh and and and respect each other at the end of that we can have a respectful disagreement of opinion and uh and and and respect each other at the end of the day but we hope that we've done enough to show you that this project is a special project it's the day but we hope that we've done enough to show you that this project is a special project it's the day but we hope that we've done enough to show you that this project is a special project it's the day but we hope that we've done enough to show you that this project is a special project it's the day but we hope that we've done enough to show you that this project is a special project it's consistent with the ac or with the activity center the downtown core and the goals objectives of consistent with the ac or with the activity center the downtown core and the goals objectives of consistent with the ac or with the activity center the downtown core and the goals objectives of consistent with the ac or with the activity center the downtown core and the goals objectives of consistent with the ac or with the activity center the downtown core and the goals objectives of policies of the uh of the comprehensive plan and it is compatible with your recent approvals it's policies of the uh of the comprehensive plan and it is compatible with your recent approvals it's policies of the uh of the comprehensive plan and it is compatible with your recent approvals it's policies of the uh of the comprehensive plan and it is compatible with your recent approvals it's policies of the uh of the comprehensive plan and it is compatible with your recent approvals it's compatible with the new development approvals and it is thoughtfully designed to be a benefit and compatible with the new development approvals and it is thoughtfully designed to be a benefit and compatible with the new development approvals and it is thoughtfully designed to be a benefit and compatible with the new development approvals and it is thoughtfully designed to be a benefit and compatible with the new development approvals and it is thoughtfully designed to be a benefit and improvement to the entire community and also especially those adjacent and abutting property owners improvement to the entire community and also especially those adjacent and abutting property owners improvement to the entire community and also especially those adjacent and abutting property owners improvement to the entire community and also especially those adjacent and abutting property owners improvement to the entire community and also especially those adjacent and abutting property owners with the impact fees with the public art with the bicycle parking with the solar and the sustainability and with the impact fees with the public art with the bicycle parking with the solar and the sustainability and with the impact fees with the public art with the bicycle parking with the solar and the sustainability and with the impact fees with the public art with the bicycle parking with the solar and the sustainability and with the impact fees with the public art with the bicycle parking with the solar and the sustainability and the storm water um we would be very uh happy if you would uh vote to move this on to a second reading the storm water um we would be very uh happy if you would uh vote to move this on to a second reading the storm water um we would be very uh happy if you would uh vote to move this on to a second reading the storm water um we would be very uh happy if you would uh vote to move this on to a second reading the storm water um we would be very uh happy if you would uh vote to move this on to a second reading
on may 7th thank you thank you brian um jen are we able to just share our positions prior to making a on may 7th thank you thank you brian um jen are we able to just share our positions prior to making a on may 7th thank you thank you brian um jen are we able to just share our positions prior to making a on may 7th thank you thank you brian um jen are we able to just share our positions prior to making a on may 7th thank you thank you brian um jen are we able to just share our positions prior to making a motion in a second you can you can have commission discussion on that yeah i i'm just thinking that motion in a second you can you can have commission discussion on that yeah i i'm just thinking that motion in a second you can you can have commission discussion on that yeah i i'm just thinking that motion in a second you can you can have commission discussion on that yeah i i'm just thinking that motion in a second you can you can have commission discussion on that yeah i i'm just thinking that might be good to start by just sharing our positions and then make a motion to either approve or might be good to start by just sharing our positions and then make a motion to either approve or might be good to start by just sharing our positions and then make a motion to either approve or might be good to start by just sharing our positions and then make a motion to either approve or might be good to start by just sharing our positions and then make a motion to either approve or disapprove can i just add you're all in agreement with that yeah i just want to add you know scale disapprove can i just add you're all in agreement with that yeah i just want to add you know scale disapprove can i just add you're all in agreement with that yeah i just want to add you know scale disapprove can i just add you're all in agreement with that yeah i just want to add you know scale disapprove can i just add you're all in agreement with that yeah i just want to add you know scale
height mass compatibility downtown dunedin is extremely strong this is not a catalyst type project we're height mass compatibility downtown dunedin is extremely strong this is not a catalyst type project we're height mass compatibility downtown dunedin is extremely strong this is not a catalyst type project we're height mass compatibility downtown dunedin is extremely strong this is not a catalyst type project we're height mass compatibility downtown dunedin is extremely strong this is not a catalyst type project we're
good we're good i don't want to rebut yeah i don't want to back and forth yeah i don't want to go back good we're good i don't want to rebut yeah i don't want to back and forth yeah i don't want to go back good we're good i don't want to rebut yeah i don't want to back and forth yeah i don't want to go back good we're good i don't want to rebut yeah i don't want to back and forth yeah i don't want to go back good we're good i don't want to rebut yeah i don't want to back and forth yeah i don't want to go back and forth as far as a catalyst we're good okay um so um okay so i guess i will start with uh vice and forth as far as a catalyst we're good okay um so um okay so i guess i will start with uh vice and forth as far as a catalyst we're good okay um so um okay so i guess i will start with uh vice and forth as far as a catalyst we're good okay um so um okay so i guess i will start with uh vice and forth as far as a catalyst we're good okay um so um okay so i guess i will start with uh vice
mayor sorry thank you mayor i'll lead you somewhere um then i'll go to commissioner gal break the chain mayor sorry thank you mayor i'll lead you somewhere um then i'll go to commissioner gal break the chain mayor sorry thank you mayor i'll lead you somewhere um then i'll go to commissioner gal break the chain mayor sorry thank you mayor i'll lead you somewhere um then i'll go to commissioner gal break the chain mayor sorry thank you mayor i'll lead you somewhere um then i'll go to commissioner gal break the chain yeah so um you know i've listened uh we've all we've all listened to both sides of this and yeah so um you know i've listened uh we've all we've all listened to both sides of this and yeah so um you know i've listened uh we've all we've all listened to both sides of this and yeah so um you know i've listened uh we've all we've all listened to both sides of this and yeah so um you know i've listened uh we've all we've all listened to both sides of this and i will just cover the points in no particular order um first of all um i i don't disagree that i will just cover the points in no particular order um first of all um i i don't disagree that i will just cover the points in no particular order um first of all um i i don't disagree that i will just cover the points in no particular order um first of all um i i don't disagree that i will just cover the points in no particular order um first of all um i i don't disagree that this project could serve as a revitalization and a catalyst i i do see the potential there um and i this project could serve as a revitalization and a catalyst i i do see the potential there um and i this project could serve as a revitalization and a catalyst i i do see the potential there um and i this project could serve as a revitalization and a catalyst i i do see the potential there um and i this project could serve as a revitalization and a catalyst i i do see the potential there um and i am also intrigued by the fact that you are willing to invest money to improve the infrastructure on that am also intrigued by the fact that you are willing to invest money to improve the infrastructure on that am also intrigued by the fact that you are willing to invest money to improve the infrastructure on that am also intrigued by the fact that you are willing to invest money to improve the infrastructure on that am also intrigued by the fact that you are willing to invest money to improve the infrastructure on that lot um where i am stuck right now is is on the compatibility issue um and you know tied to that lot um where i am stuck right now is is on the compatibility issue um and you know tied to that lot um where i am stuck right now is is on the compatibility issue um and you know tied to that lot um where i am stuck right now is is on the compatibility issue um and you know tied to that lot um where i am stuck right now is is on the compatibility issue um and you know tied to that compatibility is that regardless of the set of circumstances in which the arc approved it and compatibility is that regardless of the set of circumstances in which the arc approved it and compatibility is that regardless of the set of circumstances in which the arc approved it and compatibility is that regardless of the set of circumstances in which the arc approved it and compatibility is that regardless of the set of circumstances in which the arc approved it and then it was passed to the lpa and now it's with commission there are several things in here that then it was passed to the lpa and now it's with commission there are several things in here that then it was passed to the lpa and now it's with commission there are several things in here that then it was passed to the lpa and now it's with commission there are several things in here that then it was passed to the lpa and now it's with commission there are several things in here that are somewhat um just i'll just say irregular only because of the fact that um it just appears to me are somewhat um just i'll just say irregular only because of the fact that um it just appears to me are somewhat um just i'll just say irregular only because of the fact that um it just appears to me are somewhat um just i'll just say irregular only because of the fact that um it just appears to me are somewhat um just i'll just say irregular only because of the fact that um it just appears to me and that the compatibility issue well first of all let me address one at a time here compatibility and that the compatibility issue well first of all let me address one at a time here compatibility and that the compatibility issue well first of all let me address one at a time here compatibility and that the compatibility issue well first of all let me address one at a time here compatibility and that the compatibility issue well first of all let me address one at a time here compatibility um you know i look at the renderings um it's you know it it is significantly different than the um you know i look at the renderings um it's you know it it is significantly different than the um you know i look at the renderings um it's you know it it is significantly different than the um you know i look at the renderings um it's you know it it is significantly different than the um you know i look at the renderings um it's you know it it is significantly different than the surrounding area the argument that i would make to you know to to oppose that well if you take a look surrounding area the argument that i would make to you know to to oppose that well if you take a look surrounding area the argument that i would make to you know to to oppose that well if you take a look surrounding area the argument that i would make to you know to to oppose that well if you take a look surrounding area the argument that i would make to you know to to oppose that well if you take a look at the surrounding area that the surrounding area and the structures and the development at the surrounding area that the surrounding area and the structures and the development at the surrounding area that the surrounding area and the structures and the development at the surrounding area that the surrounding area and the structures and the development at the surrounding area that the surrounding area and the structures and the development and other buildings and such you know those were built several years ago so you're you are looking and other buildings and such you know those were built several years ago so you're you are looking and other buildings and such you know those were built several years ago so you're you are looking and other buildings and such you know those were built several years ago so you're you are looking and other buildings and such you know those were built several years ago so you're you are looking again to to possibly revitalize this but the the size and the shape of it as it currently stands is is again to to possibly revitalize this but the the size and the shape of it as it currently stands is is again to to possibly revitalize this but the the size and the shape of it as it currently stands is is again to to possibly revitalize this but the the size and the shape of it as it currently stands is is again to to possibly revitalize this but the the size and the shape of it as it currently stands is is problematic and um but back to the approval process it it just seems to me regardless the set of problematic and um but back to the approval process it it just seems to me regardless the set of problematic and um but back to the approval process it it just seems to me regardless the set of problematic and um but back to the approval process it it just seems to me regardless the set of problematic and um but back to the approval process it it just seems to me regardless the set of circumstances that we are trying to ramrod this thing through and i'm just wondering if there is a circumstances that we are trying to ramrod this thing through and i'm just wondering if there is a circumstances that we are trying to ramrod this thing through and i'm just wondering if there is a circumstances that we are trying to ramrod this thing through and i'm just wondering if there is a circumstances that we are trying to ramrod this thing through and i'm just wondering if there is a possibility where we can go back on the major sticking points and bring this back um and the possibility where we can go back on the major sticking points and bring this back um and the possibility where we can go back on the major sticking points and bring this back um and the possibility where we can go back on the major sticking points and bring this back um and the possibility where we can go back on the major sticking points and bring this back um and the other thing that concerns me on this is is just that just the precedence um you know we've made a very other thing that concerns me on this is is just that just the precedence um you know we've made a very other thing that concerns me on this is is just that just the precedence um you know we've made a very other thing that concerns me on this is is just that just the precedence um you know we've made a very other thing that concerns me on this is is just that just the precedence um you know we've made a very well um you take a look at the downtown core um nothing above three stories i know that the main street well um you take a look at the downtown core um nothing above three stories i know that the main street well um you take a look at the downtown core um nothing above three stories i know that the main street well um you take a look at the downtown core um nothing above three stories i know that the main street well um you take a look at the downtown core um nothing above three stories i know that the main street exchange was an exception to this um but with that said uh you know at which point do we draw the line exchange was an exception to this um but with that said uh you know at which point do we draw the line exchange was an exception to this um but with that said uh you know at which point do we draw the line exchange was an exception to this um but with that said uh you know at which point do we draw the line exchange was an exception to this um but with that said uh you know at which point do we draw the line and say this is we're not going to go any further and so um you know i guess based on this i would i and say this is we're not going to go any further and so um you know i guess based on this i would i and say this is we're not going to go any further and so um you know i guess based on this i would i and say this is we're not going to go any further and so um you know i guess based on this i would i and say this is we're not going to go any further and so um you know i guess based on this i would i would personally like to see this revisited um and to characterize a position on it at this particular would personally like to see this revisited um and to characterize a position on it at this particular would personally like to see this revisited um and to characterize a position on it at this particular would personally like to see this revisited um and to characterize a position on it at this particular would personally like to see this revisited um and to characterize a position on it at this particular time this point in time i don't think i can support this so i'm going to go to commissioner gow thank you time this point in time i don't think i can support this so i'm going to go to commissioner gow thank you time this point in time i don't think i can support this so i'm going to go to commissioner gow thank you time this point in time i don't think i can support this so i'm going to go to commissioner gow thank you time this point in time i don't think i can support this so i'm going to go to commissioner gow thank you
you know we talked about the uniqueness of this project and and how it looks and it's actually you know we talked about the uniqueness of this project and and how it looks and it's actually you know we talked about the uniqueness of this project and and how it looks and it's actually you know we talked about the uniqueness of this project and and how it looks and it's actually you know we talked about the uniqueness of this project and and how it looks and it's actually it's beautiful rendering it's it's nice architecture is very good on it um and we also talked about it's beautiful rendering it's it's nice architecture is very good on it um and we also talked about it's beautiful rendering it's it's nice architecture is very good on it um and we also talked about it's beautiful rendering it's it's nice architecture is very good on it um and we also talked about it's beautiful rendering it's it's nice architecture is very good on it um and we also talked about uniqueness of voices or votes whether it's this commission or whether this commission versus lpa uniqueness of voices or votes whether it's this commission or whether this commission versus lpa uniqueness of voices or votes whether it's this commission or whether this commission versus lpa uniqueness of voices or votes whether it's this commission or whether this commission versus lpa uniqueness of voices or votes whether it's this commission or whether this commission versus lpa or the arc um never shy of differences you've heard me on two votes tonight where i stood alone or the arc um never shy of differences you've heard me on two votes tonight where i stood alone or the arc um never shy of differences you've heard me on two votes tonight where i stood alone or the arc um never shy of differences you've heard me on two votes tonight where i stood alone or the arc um never shy of differences you've heard me on two votes tonight where i stood alone uh and so it's it's that uniqueness that really is what dunedin has been built on uh it's not just uh and so it's it's that uniqueness that really is what dunedin has been built on uh it's not just uh and so it's it's that uniqueness that really is what dunedin has been built on uh it's not just uh and so it's it's that uniqueness that really is what dunedin has been built on uh it's not just uh and so it's it's that uniqueness that really is what dunedin has been built on uh it's not just open property where we built the same thing and it all looks the same that everything is built almost open property where we built the same thing and it all looks the same that everything is built almost open property where we built the same thing and it all looks the same that everything is built almost open property where we built the same thing and it all looks the same that everything is built almost open property where we built the same thing and it all looks the same that everything is built almost with surgical precision and and uniqueness on how it fits and what we want um we we've done a lot with surgical precision and and uniqueness on how it fits and what we want um we we've done a lot with surgical precision and and uniqueness on how it fits and what we want um we we've done a lot with surgical precision and and uniqueness on how it fits and what we want um we we've done a lot with surgical precision and and uniqueness on how it fits and what we want um we we've done a lot for skinner boulevard and it is truly a stunning roadway and so the time effort energy for skinner boulevard and it is truly a stunning roadway and so the time effort energy for skinner boulevard and it is truly a stunning roadway and so the time effort energy for skinner boulevard and it is truly a stunning roadway and so the time effort energy for skinner boulevard and it is truly a stunning roadway and so the time effort energy and passion that we put into that we have to make sure that carries to what comes after it um and passion that we put into that we have to make sure that carries to what comes after it um and passion that we put into that we have to make sure that carries to what comes after it um and passion that we put into that we have to make sure that carries to what comes after it um and passion that we put into that we have to make sure that carries to what comes after it um uh uh i i i like the architecture um i'm i'm concerned about the it it doesn't match as as the vice uh uh i i i like the architecture um i'm i'm concerned about the it it doesn't match as as the vice uh uh i i i like the architecture um i'm i'm concerned about the it it doesn't match as as the vice uh uh i i i like the architecture um i'm i'm concerned about the it it doesn't match as as the vice uh uh i i i like the architecture um i'm i'm concerned about the it it doesn't match as as the vice mayor mentioned what is truly around it and it's i don't want to say that it's easy but it it is easy mayor mentioned what is truly around it and it's i don't want to say that it's easy but it it is easy mayor mentioned what is truly around it and it's i don't want to say that it's easy but it it is easy mayor mentioned what is truly around it and it's i don't want to say that it's easy but it it is easy mayor mentioned what is truly around it and it's i don't want to say that it's easy but it it is easy to look down the street around the corner oh well here's property you know if you widen out the lens yeah to look down the street around the corner oh well here's property you know if you widen out the lens yeah to look down the street around the corner oh well here's property you know if you widen out the lens yeah to look down the street around the corner oh well here's property you know if you widen out the lens yeah to look down the street around the corner oh well here's property you know if you widen out the lens yeah we can look at me's life which is what 12 15 stories oh compatibility um nine stories is it that we can look at me's life which is what 12 15 stories oh compatibility um nine stories is it that we can look at me's life which is what 12 15 stories oh compatibility um nine stories is it that we can look at me's life which is what 12 15 stories oh compatibility um nine stories is it that we can look at me's life which is what 12 15 stories oh compatibility um nine stories is it that wow um and uh so and we talked about the difference between the garage that we voted on wow um and uh so and we talked about the difference between the garage that we voted on wow um and uh so and we talked about the difference between the garage that we voted on wow um and uh so and we talked about the difference between the garage that we voted on wow um and uh so and we talked about the difference between the garage that we voted on and uh the bicycle shop and there's actually there's quite a distance between the two and that's what and uh the bicycle shop and there's actually there's quite a distance between the two and that's what and uh the bicycle shop and there's actually there's quite a distance between the two and that's what and uh the bicycle shop and there's actually there's quite a distance between the two and that's what and uh the bicycle shop and there's actually there's quite a distance between the two and that's what tiering is is is for um it is i i i'm concerned about the solid waste and recycling for for the beauty of tiering is is is for um it is i i i'm concerned about the solid waste and recycling for for the beauty of tiering is is is for um it is i i i'm concerned about the solid waste and recycling for for the beauty of tiering is is is for um it is i i i'm concerned about the solid waste and recycling for for the beauty of tiering is is is for um it is i i i'm concerned about the solid waste and recycling for for the beauty of skinner boulevard to see all those trash cans out and and i know you guys that's not your realm that skinner boulevard to see all those trash cans out and and i know you guys that's not your realm that skinner boulevard to see all those trash cans out and and i know you guys that's not your realm that skinner boulevard to see all those trash cans out and and i know you guys that's not your realm that skinner boulevard to see all those trash cans out and and i know you guys that's not your realm that you look at but that is stuff that we look at those are the things we're going to hear about from our you look at but that is stuff that we look at those are the things we're going to hear about from our you look at but that is stuff that we look at those are the things we're going to hear about from our you look at but that is stuff that we look at those are the things we're going to hear about from our you look at but that is stuff that we look at those are the things we're going to hear about from our residents um the open concept of a garage and if we're trying to make skinner boulevard walkable residents um the open concept of a garage and if we're trying to make skinner boulevard walkable residents um the open concept of a garage and if we're trying to make skinner boulevard walkable residents um the open concept of a garage and if we're trying to make skinner boulevard walkable residents um the open concept of a garage and if we're trying to make skinner boulevard walkable that's inviting vandalism theft things of that nature and so it looks like we're trying to that's inviting vandalism theft things of that nature and so it looks like we're trying to that's inviting vandalism theft things of that nature and so it looks like we're trying to that's inviting vandalism theft things of that nature and so it looks like we're trying to that's inviting vandalism theft things of that nature and so it looks like we're trying to make it fit all kinds of of categories it an open concept kind of a condo looking thing but also make it fit all kinds of of categories it an open concept kind of a condo looking thing but also make it fit all kinds of of categories it an open concept kind of a condo looking thing but also make it fit all kinds of of categories it an open concept kind of a condo looking thing but also make it fit all kinds of of categories it an open concept kind of a condo looking thing but also treat it as a private home on an urban road in an urban uh center and and so i i i would be concerned treat it as a private home on an urban road in an urban uh center and and so i i i would be concerned treat it as a private home on an urban road in an urban uh center and and so i i i would be concerned treat it as a private home on an urban road in an urban uh center and and so i i i would be concerned treat it as a private home on an urban road in an urban uh center and and so i i i would be concerned if i were a buyer looking at it but that's not what this is about today but maybe it is i don't know if i were a buyer looking at it but that's not what this is about today but maybe it is i don't know if i were a buyer looking at it but that's not what this is about today but maybe it is i don't know if i were a buyer looking at it but that's not what this is about today but maybe it is i don't know if i were a buyer looking at it but that's not what this is about today but maybe it is i don't know um so i i i something does need to be built there and and the idea that uh skinner boulevard the way um so i i i something does need to be built there and and the idea that uh skinner boulevard the way um so i i i something does need to be built there and and the idea that uh skinner boulevard the way um so i i i something does need to be built there and and the idea that uh skinner boulevard the way um so i i i something does need to be built there and and the idea that uh skinner boulevard the way it looks today is going to look entirely different 20 years from now and we're hoping every one of it looks today is going to look entirely different 20 years from now and we're hoping every one of it looks today is going to look entirely different 20 years from now and we're hoping every one of it looks today is going to look entirely different 20 years from now and we're hoping every one of it looks today is going to look entirely different 20 years from now and we're hoping every one of those developments that come behind what we've done there is really something we're proud of uh and and those developments that come behind what we've done there is really something we're proud of uh and and those developments that come behind what we've done there is really something we're proud of uh and and those developments that come behind what we've done there is really something we're proud of uh and and those developments that come behind what we've done there is really something we're proud of uh and and it meets and it matches uh what what we want in in dunedin uh every every development that comes before it meets and it matches uh what what we want in in dunedin uh every every development that comes before it meets and it matches uh what what we want in in dunedin uh every every development that comes before it meets and it matches uh what what we want in in dunedin uh every every development that comes before it meets and it matches uh what what we want in in dunedin uh every every development that comes before us we pick it apart um and each one has been uh we're really proud on on what we've said yes to us we pick it apart um and each one has been uh we're really proud on on what we've said yes to us we pick it apart um and each one has been uh we're really proud on on what we've said yes to us we pick it apart um and each one has been uh we're really proud on on what we've said yes to us we pick it apart um and each one has been uh we're really proud on on what we've said yes to so unfortunately right right now that compatibility issue is is bothering me and as i have i'm proud of so unfortunately right right now that compatibility issue is is bothering me and as i have i'm proud of so unfortunately right right now that compatibility issue is is bothering me and as i have i'm proud of so unfortunately right right now that compatibility issue is is bothering me and as i have i'm proud of so unfortunately right right now that compatibility issue is is bothering me and as i have i'm proud of my votes i took earlier tonight standing alone i also feel proud standing alone from what the lpa said my votes i took earlier tonight standing alone i also feel proud standing alone from what the lpa said my votes i took earlier tonight standing alone i also feel proud standing alone from what the lpa said my votes i took earlier tonight standing alone i also feel proud standing alone from what the lpa said my votes i took earlier tonight standing alone i also feel proud standing alone from what the lpa said or arc said even though um no even though i lost my train of thought there um so but but i really do or arc said even though um no even though i lost my train of thought there um so but but i really do or arc said even though um no even though i lost my train of thought there um so but but i really do or arc said even though um no even though i lost my train of thought there um so but but i really do or arc said even though um no even though i lost my train of thought there um so but but i really do like the architecture that's that's there um i'm a big fan of the zero in on on skinner boulevard like the architecture that's that's there um i'm a big fan of the zero in on on skinner boulevard like the architecture that's that's there um i'm a big fan of the zero in on on skinner boulevard like the architecture that's that's there um i'm a big fan of the zero in on on skinner boulevard like the architecture that's that's there um i'm a big fan of the zero in on on skinner boulevard the zero setback that's what i want to see i want people walking down skinner boulevard the zero setback that's what i want to see i want people walking down skinner boulevard the zero setback that's what i want to see i want people walking down skinner boulevard the zero setback that's what i want to see i want people walking down skinner boulevard the zero setback that's what i want to see i want people walking down skinner boulevard and and being able to approach your residences there's a door right there or it's mixed use and and and being able to approach your residences there's a door right there or it's mixed use and and and being able to approach your residences there's a door right there or it's mixed use and and and being able to approach your residences there's a door right there or it's mixed use and and and being able to approach your residences there's a door right there or it's mixed use and there's residential or there's retail on the bottom and and residential on top and it's just that's there's residential or there's retail on the bottom and and residential on top and it's just that's there's residential or there's retail on the bottom and and residential on top and it's just that's there's residential or there's retail on the bottom and and residential on top and it's just that's there's residential or there's retail on the bottom and and residential on top and it's just that's that's inviting the walkability and the energy and the excitement that you get downtown i don't feel that that's inviting the walkability and the energy and the excitement that you get downtown i don't feel that that's inviting the walkability and the energy and the excitement that you get downtown i don't feel that that's inviting the walkability and the energy and the excitement that you get downtown i don't feel that that's inviting the walkability and the energy and the excitement that you get downtown i don't feel that energy that vibe you want in a downtown in this project it's it's five single family homes or it's energy that vibe you want in a downtown in this project it's it's five single family homes or it's energy that vibe you want in a downtown in this project it's it's five single family homes or it's energy that vibe you want in a downtown in this project it's it's five single family homes or it's energy that vibe you want in a downtown in this project it's it's five single family homes or it's town homes and and so we're going to walk by walk right by it when uh and and look at the heights town homes and and so we're going to walk by walk right by it when uh and and look at the heights town homes and and so we're going to walk by walk right by it when uh and and look at the heights town homes and and so we're going to walk by walk right by it when uh and and look at the heights town homes and and so we're going to walk by walk right by it when uh and and look at the heights on and because it's not conforming to the rest of the community that's surrounding it uh yet at this on and because it's not conforming to the rest of the community that's surrounding it uh yet at this on and because it's not conforming to the rest of the community that's surrounding it uh yet at this on and because it's not conforming to the rest of the community that's surrounding it uh yet at this on and because it's not conforming to the rest of the community that's surrounding it uh yet at this point i i i can't conform but i hope i hope you stick with this project and redesign or find something point i i i can't conform but i hope i hope you stick with this project and redesign or find something point i i i can't conform but i hope i hope you stick with this project and redesign or find something point i i i can't conform but i hope i hope you stick with this project and redesign or find something point i i i can't conform but i hope i hope you stick with this project and redesign or find something find that sweet spot that we can work together on i appreciate that thank you thank you mayor find that sweet spot that we can work together on i appreciate that thank you thank you mayor find that sweet spot that we can work together on i appreciate that thank you thank you mayor find that sweet spot that we can work together on i appreciate that thank you thank you mayor find that sweet spot that we can work together on i appreciate that thank you thank you mayor
mr degard thank you mayor um we're nine square miles of paradise and everybody wants a piece of mr degard thank you mayor um we're nine square miles of paradise and everybody wants a piece of mr degard thank you mayor um we're nine square miles of paradise and everybody wants a piece of mr degard thank you mayor um we're nine square miles of paradise and everybody wants a piece of mr degard thank you mayor um we're nine square miles of paradise and everybody wants a piece of paradise and we're jamming a lot of things into this nine square miles the way this comes to us paradise and we're jamming a lot of things into this nine square miles the way this comes to us paradise and we're jamming a lot of things into this nine square miles the way this comes to us paradise and we're jamming a lot of things into this nine square miles the way this comes to us paradise and we're jamming a lot of things into this nine square miles the way this comes to us is we have a decision to make and by the way counselor excellent presentation you could have is we have a decision to make and by the way counselor excellent presentation you could have is we have a decision to make and by the way counselor excellent presentation you could have is we have a decision to make and by the way counselor excellent presentation you could have is we have a decision to make and by the way counselor excellent presentation you could have probably sold me my own home back to me the way you did that it was beautifully done but we have to be probably sold me my own home back to me the way you did that it was beautifully done but we have to be probably sold me my own home back to me the way you did that it was beautifully done but we have to be probably sold me my own home back to me the way you did that it was beautifully done but we have to be probably sold me my own home back to me the way you did that it was beautifully done but we have to be the ones that talk about that six feet that six feet that we're making the decision on if you were the ones that talk about that six feet that six feet that we're making the decision on if you were the ones that talk about that six feet that six feet that we're making the decision on if you were the ones that talk about that six feet that six feet that we're making the decision on if you were the ones that talk about that six feet that six feet that we're making the decision on if you were six feet less it wouldn't be our decision but it sits with us because it's that six feet we have to six feet less it wouldn't be our decision but it sits with us because it's that six feet we have to six feet less it wouldn't be our decision but it sits with us because it's that six feet we have to six feet less it wouldn't be our decision but it sits with us because it's that six feet we have to six feet less it wouldn't be our decision but it sits with us because it's that six feet we have to make a decision about it our data tells us over and over again that our citizens are feeling crowded make a decision about it our data tells us over and over again that our citizens are feeling crowded make a decision about it our data tells us over and over again that our citizens are feeling crowded make a decision about it our data tells us over and over again that our citizens are feeling crowded make a decision about it our data tells us over and over again that our citizens are feeling crowded that we're jamming too much into our nine square miles surveys we do we're growing too fast over that we're jamming too much into our nine square miles surveys we do we're growing too fast over that we're jamming too much into our nine square miles surveys we do we're growing too fast over that we're jamming too much into our nine square miles surveys we do we're growing too fast over that we're jamming too much into our nine square miles surveys we do we're growing too fast over development we get it all the time on the other hand let me tell you this building if we put it up development we get it all the time on the other hand let me tell you this building if we put it up development we get it all the time on the other hand let me tell you this building if we put it up development we get it all the time on the other hand let me tell you this building if we put it up development we get it all the time on the other hand let me tell you this building if we put it up it's going to bring revenue to the community and flood control these are positives this one's a tough it's going to bring revenue to the community and flood control these are positives this one's a tough it's going to bring revenue to the community and flood control these are positives this one's a tough it's going to bring revenue to the community and flood control these are positives this one's a tough it's going to bring revenue to the community and flood control these are positives this one's a tough one i got two voices on each shoulder telling me which way to go and this one's going to be a tough one one i got two voices on each shoulder telling me which way to go and this one's going to be a tough one one i got two voices on each shoulder telling me which way to go and this one's going to be a tough one one i got two voices on each shoulder telling me which way to go and this one's going to be a tough one one i got two voices on each shoulder telling me which way to go and this one's going to be a tough one because i've got to listen to the residents who are feeling crowded i got to listen to the opportunities because i've got to listen to the residents who are feeling crowded i got to listen to the opportunities because i've got to listen to the residents who are feeling crowded i got to listen to the opportunities because i've got to listen to the residents who are feeling crowded i got to listen to the opportunities because i've got to listen to the residents who are feeling crowded i got to listen to the opportunities
you're presenting both are pluses thank you mayor uh commissioner sandberg you know i spent at least you're presenting both are pluses thank you mayor uh commissioner sandberg you know i spent at least you're presenting both are pluses thank you mayor uh commissioner sandberg you know i spent at least you're presenting both are pluses thank you mayor uh commissioner sandberg you know i spent at least you're presenting both are pluses thank you mayor uh commissioner sandberg you know i spent at least
12 years on the lpa so uh it's a tough spot i you know you all you can do is do the best you know 12 years on the lpa so uh it's a tough spot i you know you all you can do is do the best you know 12 years on the lpa so uh it's a tough spot i you know you all you can do is do the best you know 12 years on the lpa so uh it's a tough spot i you know you all you can do is do the best you know 12 years on the lpa so uh it's a tough spot i you know you all you can do is do the best you know there's been a lot of commissioners city managers building officials that have uh been involved in there's been a lot of commissioners city managers building officials that have uh been involved in there's been a lot of commissioners city managers building officials that have uh been involved in there's been a lot of commissioners city managers building officials that have uh been involved in there's been a lot of commissioners city managers building officials that have uh been involved in writing these regulations these uh you know the codes that we have to live by and they may not be writing these regulations these uh you know the codes that we have to live by and they may not be writing these regulations these uh you know the codes that we have to live by and they may not be writing these regulations these uh you know the codes that we have to live by and they may not be writing these regulations these uh you know the codes that we have to live by and they may not be perfect but there's been a lot of time and effort put into them you know we spent a lot of money on perfect but there's been a lot of time and effort put into them you know we spent a lot of money on perfect but there's been a lot of time and effort put into them you know we spent a lot of money on perfect but there's been a lot of time and effort put into them you know we spent a lot of money on perfect but there's been a lot of time and effort put into them you know we spent a lot of money on that skinner and i know there will be a catalyst that will be the first new project and from there that skinner and i know there will be a catalyst that will be the first new project and from there that skinner and i know there will be a catalyst that will be the first new project and from there that skinner and i know there will be a catalyst that will be the first new project and from there that skinner and i know there will be a catalyst that will be the first new project and from there we're going to build uh i have to completely agree with what's been set up here something needs to go on we're going to build uh i have to completely agree with what's been set up here something needs to go on we're going to build uh i have to completely agree with what's been set up here something needs to go on we're going to build uh i have to completely agree with what's been set up here something needs to go on we're going to build uh i have to completely agree with what's been set up here something needs to go on that lot but it's got to be compatible with the neighbors this particular project in my opinion is not that lot but it's got to be compatible with the neighbors this particular project in my opinion is not that lot but it's got to be compatible with the neighbors this particular project in my opinion is not that lot but it's got to be compatible with the neighbors this particular project in my opinion is not that lot but it's got to be compatible with the neighbors this particular project in my opinion is not and i like i said i've all my years on the lpa i've been down this road i've been down the road and i like i said i've all my years on the lpa i've been down this road i've been down the road and i like i said i've all my years on the lpa i've been down this road i've been down the road and i like i said i've all my years on the lpa i've been down this road i've been down the road and i like i said i've all my years on the lpa i've been down this road i've been down the road where we approved city commission denied and it's it's tough and i so i've seen this from from both where we approved city commission denied and it's it's tough and i so i've seen this from from both where we approved city commission denied and it's it's tough and i so i've seen this from from both where we approved city commission denied and it's it's tough and i so i've seen this from from both where we approved city commission denied and it's it's tough and i so i've seen this from from both ends uh i'm concerned about the neighborhood you know when it was pointed out to me about this flooding ends uh i'm concerned about the neighborhood you know when it was pointed out to me about this flooding ends uh i'm concerned about the neighborhood you know when it was pointed out to me about this flooding ends uh i'm concerned about the neighborhood you know when it was pointed out to me about this flooding ends uh i'm concerned about the neighborhood you know when it was pointed out to me about this flooding and so i heard about it again tonight uh i know we hear about that all the time but in this particular and so i heard about it again tonight uh i know we hear about that all the time but in this particular and so i heard about it again tonight uh i know we hear about that all the time but in this particular and so i heard about it again tonight uh i know we hear about that all the time but in this particular and so i heard about it again tonight uh i know we hear about that all the time but in this particular case i see something for that property it's and i hope it happens but this particular presentation case i see something for that property it's and i hope it happens but this particular presentation case i see something for that property it's and i hope it happens but this particular presentation case i see something for that property it's and i hope it happens but this particular presentation case i see something for that property it's and i hope it happens but this particular presentation is something that i i just i just can't get on board with so with that being said that's all i have is something that i i just i just can't get on board with so with that being said that's all i have is something that i i just i just can't get on board with so with that being said that's all i have is something that i i just i just can't get on board with so with that being said that's all i have is something that i i just i just can't get on board with so with that being said that's all i have
mayor thank you uh so uh well first of all i'm glad george you mentioned highland crossing i mean there mayor thank you uh so uh well first of all i'm glad george you mentioned highland crossing i mean there mayor thank you uh so uh well first of all i'm glad george you mentioned highland crossing i mean there mayor thank you uh so uh well first of all i'm glad george you mentioned highland crossing i mean there mayor thank you uh so uh well first of all i'm glad george you mentioned highland crossing i mean there are some new developments there that are very you know they're two stories and i'm not saying this has are some new developments there that are very you know they're two stories and i'm not saying this has are some new developments there that are very you know they're two stories and i'm not saying this has are some new developments there that are very you know they're two stories and i'm not saying this has are some new developments there that are very you know they're two stories and i'm not saying this has to be two stories but if it's going to be three even it needs to be it needs to fit um i'm not to be two stories but if it's going to be three even it needs to be it needs to fit um i'm not to be two stories but if it's going to be three even it needs to be it needs to fit um i'm not to be two stories but if it's going to be three even it needs to be it needs to fit um i'm not to be two stories but if it's going to be three even it needs to be it needs to fit um i'm not really sure that arc arc when i read everything about arc they weren't deaf they weren't clearly weighing in really sure that arc arc when i read everything about arc they weren't deaf they weren't clearly weighing in really sure that arc arc when i read everything about arc they weren't deaf they weren't clearly weighing in really sure that arc arc when i read everything about arc they weren't deaf they weren't clearly weighing in really sure that arc arc when i read everything about arc they weren't deaf they weren't clearly weighing in on compatibility um um you know honestly i watched lpa when you were up there for main street exchange on compatibility um um you know honestly i watched lpa when you were up there for main street exchange on compatibility um um you know honestly i watched lpa when you were up there for main street exchange on compatibility um um you know honestly i watched lpa when you were up there for main street exchange on compatibility um um you know honestly i watched lpa when you were up there for main street exchange and when it got unanimous approval i thought yep it's going to be a good project and when um it was time and when it got unanimous approval i thought yep it's going to be a good project and when um it was time and when it got unanimous approval i thought yep it's going to be a good project and when um it was time and when it got unanimous approval i thought yep it's going to be a good project and when um it was time and when it got unanimous approval i thought yep it's going to be a good project and when um it was time to vote on this project and with all due respect i was 100 percent with deborah kines and i couldn't to vote on this project and with all due respect i was 100 percent with deborah kines and i couldn't to vote on this project and with all due respect i was 100 percent with deborah kines and i couldn't to vote on this project and with all due respect i was 100 percent with deborah kines and i couldn't to vote on this project and with all due respect i was 100 percent with deborah kines and i couldn't believe it didn't get a second but deborah has a wealth of knowledge about compatibility in our believe it didn't get a second but deborah has a wealth of knowledge about compatibility in our believe it didn't get a second but deborah has a wealth of knowledge about compatibility in our believe it didn't get a second but deborah has a wealth of knowledge about compatibility in our believe it didn't get a second but deborah has a wealth of knowledge about compatibility in our community i mean she was she was there she was there when when it was a lot less detailed in our community i mean she was she was there she was there when when it was a lot less detailed in our community i mean she was she was there she was there when when it was a lot less detailed in our community i mean she was she was there she was there when when it was a lot less detailed in our community i mean she was she was there she was there when when it was a lot less detailed in our comprehensive plan um you know i was here for the history of compatibility and it's a legal principle comprehensive plan um you know i was here for the history of compatibility and it's a legal principle comprehensive plan um you know i was here for the history of compatibility and it's a legal principle comprehensive plan um you know i was here for the history of compatibility and it's a legal principle comprehensive plan um you know i was here for the history of compatibility and it's a legal principle that goes way back and step back goes way back to 2005. um to me compatibility is the life that goes way back and step back goes way back to 2005. um to me compatibility is the life that goes way back and step back goes way back to 2005. um to me compatibility is the life that goes way back and step back goes way back to 2005. um to me compatibility is the life that goes way back and step back goes way back to 2005. um to me compatibility is the life breadth of protecting the charm of the city does it fit and it's not a perfect science i agree it's breadth of protecting the charm of the city does it fit and it's not a perfect science i agree it's breadth of protecting the charm of the city does it fit and it's not a perfect science i agree it's breadth of protecting the charm of the city does it fit and it's not a perfect science i agree it's breadth of protecting the charm of the city does it fit and it's not a perfect science i agree it's not a perfect science um that's why it was trying to it was trying to give clarity to it um by putting not a perfect science um that's why it was trying to it was trying to give clarity to it um by putting not a perfect science um that's why it was trying to it was trying to give clarity to it um by putting not a perfect science um that's why it was trying to it was trying to give clarity to it um by putting not a perfect science um that's why it was trying to it was trying to give clarity to it um by putting it so more much more detailed into the code it's important in protecting our charm and it's got a long it so more much more detailed into the code it's important in protecting our charm and it's got a long it so more much more detailed into the code it's important in protecting our charm and it's got a long it so more much more detailed into the code it's important in protecting our charm and it's got a long it so more much more detailed into the code it's important in protecting our charm and it's got a long history of citizen input in what got us there in terms of compatibility um and i brian i totally history of citizen input in what got us there in terms of compatibility um and i brian i totally history of citizen input in what got us there in terms of compatibility um and i brian i totally history of citizen input in what got us there in terms of compatibility um and i brian i totally history of citizen input in what got us there in terms of compatibility um and i brian i totally understand your argument about what's there and what do you want to be there are you going to okay understand your argument about what's there and what do you want to be there are you going to okay understand your argument about what's there and what do you want to be there are you going to okay understand your argument about what's there and what do you want to be there are you going to okay understand your argument about what's there and what do you want to be there are you going to okay it's all going to be one stories i i get that but i but i would suggest to you that some of us up here it's all going to be one stories i i get that but i but i would suggest to you that some of us up here it's all going to be one stories i i get that but i but i would suggest to you that some of us up here it's all going to be one stories i i get that but i but i would suggest to you that some of us up here it's all going to be one stories i i get that but i but i would suggest to you that some of us up here um and on staff have been here a long time i've been here 42 years and i was a staffer for 22 of them um and on staff have been here a long time i've been here 42 years and i was a staffer for 22 of them um and on staff have been here a long time i've been here 42 years and i was a staffer for 22 of them um and on staff have been here a long time i've been here 42 years and i was a staffer for 22 of them um and on staff have been here a long time i've been here 42 years and i was a staffer for 22 of them and i saw incremental balanced smart compatible growth that built this town when it really didn't and i saw incremental balanced smart compatible growth that built this town when it really didn't and i saw incremental balanced smart compatible growth that built this town when it really didn't and i saw incremental balanced smart compatible growth that built this town when it really didn't and i saw incremental balanced smart compatible growth that built this town when it really didn't have a lot going on and so i have confidence that's exactly what we're going to do with skinner and to have a lot going on and so i have confidence that's exactly what we're going to do with skinner and to have a lot going on and so i have confidence that's exactly what we're going to do with skinner and to have a lot going on and so i have confidence that's exactly what we're going to do with skinner and to have a lot going on and so i have confidence that's exactly what we're going to do with skinner and to me this this is not hard for me this doesn't fit and truthfully i it feels like and i don't mean to draw me this this is not hard for me this doesn't fit and truthfully i it feels like and i don't mean to draw me this this is not hard for me this doesn't fit and truthfully i it feels like and i don't mean to draw me this this is not hard for me this doesn't fit and truthfully i it feels like and i don't mean to draw me this this is not hard for me this doesn't fit and truthfully i it feels like and i don't mean to draw a comparison but with main street exchange that developer did everything he could do to work with a comparison but with main street exchange that developer did everything he could do to work with a comparison but with main street exchange that developer did everything he could do to work with a comparison but with main street exchange that developer did everything he could do to work with a comparison but with main street exchange that developer did everything he could do to work with our staff and our staff's good i don't follow our staff randomly and every every recommendation but our staff and our staff's good i don't follow our staff randomly and every every recommendation but our staff and our staff's good i don't follow our staff randomly and every every recommendation but our staff and our staff's good i don't follow our staff randomly and every every recommendation but our staff and our staff's good i don't follow our staff randomly and every every recommendation but they're good and they know because they've been here and they know what our citizens feel you know they're good and they know because they've been here and they know what our citizens feel you know they're good and they know because they've been here and they know what our citizens feel you know they're good and they know because they've been here and they know what our citizens feel you know they're good and they know because they've been here and they know what our citizens feel you know what dunedinites feel about compatibility so yeah i do listen to them because they do they they keep a lot what dunedinites feel about compatibility so yeah i do listen to them because they do they they keep a lot what dunedinites feel about compatibility so yeah i do listen to them because they do they they keep a lot what dunedinites feel about compatibility so yeah i do listen to them because they do they they keep a lot what dunedinites feel about compatibility so yeah i do listen to them because they do they they keep a lot of stuff from getting to us so we don't waste a lot of money in people's time by saying no it's really of stuff from getting to us so we don't waste a lot of money in people's time by saying no it's really of stuff from getting to us so we don't waste a lot of money in people's time by saying no it's really of stuff from getting to us so we don't waste a lot of money in people's time by saying no it's really of stuff from getting to us so we don't waste a lot of money in people's time by saying no it's really not a fit so um incremental balanced growth and that's exactly what we need to do for um for uh skinner not a fit so um incremental balanced growth and that's exactly what we need to do for um for uh skinner not a fit so um incremental balanced growth and that's exactly what we need to do for um for uh skinner not a fit so um incremental balanced growth and that's exactly what we need to do for um for uh skinner not a fit so um incremental balanced growth and that's exactly what we need to do for um for uh skinner it's going to be a gem it's already started to become that gem and um we need the right kind of it's going to be a gem it's already started to become that gem and um we need the right kind of it's going to be a gem it's already started to become that gem and um we need the right kind of it's going to be a gem it's already started to become that gem and um we need the right kind of it's going to be a gem it's already started to become that gem and um we need the right kind of catalyst and i with all due respect to the project to me it's not the right kind of catalyst and i think catalyst and i with all due respect to the project to me it's not the right kind of catalyst and i think catalyst and i with all due respect to the project to me it's not the right kind of catalyst and i think catalyst and i with all due respect to the project to me it's not the right kind of catalyst and i think catalyst and i with all due respect to the project to me it's not the right kind of catalyst and i think there were warnings that it might not fit for what we believe would fit for the city so um i there were warnings that it might not fit for what we believe would fit for the city so um i there were warnings that it might not fit for what we believe would fit for the city so um i there were warnings that it might not fit for what we believe would fit for the city so um i there were warnings that it might not fit for what we believe would fit for the city so um i sir i can't support it but anyway um on that note uh i need a motion to it looks like well i'll just sir i can't support it but anyway um on that note uh i need a motion to it looks like well i'll just sir i can't support it but anyway um on that note uh i need a motion to it looks like well i'll just sir i can't support it but anyway um on that note uh i need a motion to it looks like well i'll just sir i can't support it but anyway um on that note uh i need a motion to it looks like well i'll just leave it a motion to approve sorry to interrupt we we would be willing to withdraw the application at leave it a motion to approve sorry to interrupt we we would be willing to withdraw the application at leave it a motion to approve sorry to interrupt we we would be willing to withdraw the application at leave it a motion to approve sorry to interrupt we we would be willing to withdraw the application at leave it a motion to approve sorry to interrupt we we would be willing to withdraw the application at
this time so we would like to withdraw the application and take the feedback that we received from this time so we would like to withdraw the application and take the feedback that we received from this time so we would like to withdraw the application and take the feedback that we received from this time so we would like to withdraw the application and take the feedback that we received from this time so we would like to withdraw the application and take the feedback that we received from the commission and go back with staff so at this time we'll be withdrawing the application but we very the commission and go back with staff so at this time we'll be withdrawing the application but we very the commission and go back with staff so at this time we'll be withdrawing the application but we very the commission and go back with staff so at this time we'll be withdrawing the application but we very the commission and go back with staff so at this time we'll be withdrawing the application but we very
much appreciate your feedback and uh look forward to working with staff going forward okay and uh much appreciate your feedback and uh look forward to working with staff going forward okay and uh much appreciate your feedback and uh look forward to working with staff going forward okay and uh much appreciate your feedback and uh look forward to working with staff going forward okay and uh much appreciate your feedback and uh look forward to working with staff going forward okay and uh
i assume that's fine absolutely the applicant is the master of their application they can withdraw it i assume that's fine absolutely the applicant is the master of their application they can withdraw it i assume that's fine absolutely the applicant is the master of their application they can withdraw it i assume that's fine absolutely the applicant is the master of their application they can withdraw it i assume that's fine absolutely the applicant is the master of their application they can withdraw it
if they so choose okay have any additional feedback please let us know but okay we appreciate the feedback if they so choose okay have any additional feedback please let us know but okay we appreciate the feedback if they so choose okay have any additional feedback please let us know but okay we appreciate the feedback if they so choose okay have any additional feedback please let us know but okay we appreciate the feedback if they so choose okay have any additional feedback please let us know but okay we appreciate the feedback
thank you okay and and again i just i do want to say we do appreciate you trying to invest in this thank you okay and and again i just i do want to say we do appreciate you trying to invest in this thank you okay and and again i just i do want to say we do appreciate you trying to invest in this thank you okay and and again i just i do want to say we do appreciate you trying to invest in this thank you okay and and again i just i do want to say we do appreciate you trying to invest in this city so i don't want to leave it with a bad note okay um so we so the withdrawal and we'll close the city so i don't want to leave it with a bad note okay um so we so the withdrawal and we'll close the city so i don't want to leave it with a bad note okay um so we so the withdrawal and we'll close the city so i don't want to leave it with a bad note okay um so we so the withdrawal and we'll close the city so i don't want to leave it with a bad note okay um so we so the withdrawal and we'll close the
we'll we'll close the uh that item sure i would have to try it actually it's a new one for me too so we'll we'll close the uh that item sure i would have to try it actually it's a new one for me too so we'll we'll close the uh that item sure i would have to try it actually it's a new one for me too so we'll we'll close the uh that item sure i would have to try it actually it's a new one for me too so we'll we'll close the uh that item sure i would have to try it actually it's a new one for me too so
um so with them they've withdrawn their application um so it hasn't been denied they would have to reapply um so with them they've withdrawn their application um so it hasn't been denied they would have to reapply um so with them they've withdrawn their application um so it hasn't been denied they would have to reapply um so with them they've withdrawn their application um so it hasn't been denied they would have to reapply um so with them they've withdrawn their application um so it hasn't been denied they would have to reapply to move on okay thank you very much okay um we're going to go to the proposed agenda hold on proposed to move on okay thank you very much okay um we're going to go to the proposed agenda hold on proposed to move on okay thank you very much okay um we're going to go to the proposed agenda hold on proposed to move on okay thank you very much okay um we're going to go to the proposed agenda hold on proposed to move on okay thank you very much okay um we're going to go to the proposed agenda hold on proposed agenda for april 16th um anything that needs to be added or mayor we have a consent item uh leland chase agenda for april 16th um anything that needs to be added or mayor we have a consent item uh leland chase agenda for april 16th um anything that needs to be added or mayor we have a consent item uh leland chase agenda for april 16th um anything that needs to be added or mayor we have a consent item uh leland chase agenda for april 16th um anything that needs to be added or mayor we have a consent item uh leland chase
outdoor gallery public art project and action item 3a should be first reading not second reading okay great outdoor gallery public art project and action item 3a should be first reading not second reading okay great outdoor gallery public art project and action item 3a should be first reading not second reading okay great outdoor gallery public art project and action item 3a should be first reading not second reading okay great outdoor gallery public art project and action item 3a should be first reading not second reading okay great
i was wondering about that i said yeah okay okay all right you're good city manager agenda okay we'll i was wondering about that i said yeah okay okay all right you're good city manager agenda okay we'll i was wondering about that i said yeah okay okay all right you're good city manager agenda okay we'll i was wondering about that i said yeah okay okay all right you're good city manager agenda okay we'll i was wondering about that i said yeah okay okay all right you're good city manager agenda okay we'll give you a sec because once you're good that should be the first reading not the second reading okay okay give you a sec because once you're good that should be the first reading not the second reading okay okay give you a sec because once you're good that should be the first reading not the second reading okay okay give you a sec because once you're good that should be the first reading not the second reading okay okay give you a sec because once you're good that should be the first reading not the second reading okay okay so uh uh all in favor of motion oh sorry move to approve second that okay all in favor aye aye that so uh uh all in favor of motion oh sorry move to approve second that okay all in favor aye aye that so uh uh all in favor of motion oh sorry move to approve second that okay all in favor aye aye that so uh uh all in favor of motion oh sorry move to approve second that okay all in favor aye aye that so uh uh all in favor of motion oh sorry move to approve second that okay all in favor aye aye that motion passes unanimously okay and now we're going to go to commission discussion and comments motion passes unanimously okay and now we're going to go to commission discussion and comments motion passes unanimously okay and now we're going to go to commission discussion and comments motion passes unanimously okay and now we're going to go to commission discussion and comments motion passes unanimously okay and now we're going to go to commission discussion and comments
so starting with commissioner gal island games are coming up no yeah they are surprise surprise so starting with commissioner gal island games are coming up no yeah they are surprise surprise so starting with commissioner gal island games are coming up no yeah they are surprise surprise so starting with commissioner gal island games are coming up no yeah they are surprise surprise so starting with commissioner gal island games are coming up no yeah they are surprise surprise um that that's all that i have right now i'll let rob talk about uh rotc all right uh commissioner um that that's all that i have right now i'll let rob talk about uh rotc all right uh commissioner um that that's all that i have right now i'll let rob talk about uh rotc all right uh commissioner um that that's all that i have right now i'll let rob talk about uh rotc all right uh commissioner um that that's all that i have right now i'll let rob talk about uh rotc all right uh commissioner
thank you mayor um i'm a little troubled tonight because we this is the second time that we've faced a thank you mayor um i'm a little troubled tonight because we this is the second time that we've faced a thank you mayor um i'm a little troubled tonight because we this is the second time that we've faced a thank you mayor um i'm a little troubled tonight because we this is the second time that we've faced a thank you mayor um i'm a little troubled tonight because we this is the second time that we've faced a
circumstance where we have a recommendation from a lower committee that conflicts with a staff circumstance where we have a recommendation from a lower committee that conflicts with a staff circumstance where we have a recommendation from a lower committee that conflicts with a staff circumstance where we have a recommendation from a lower committee that conflicts with a staff circumstance where we have a recommendation from a lower committee that conflicts with a staff recommendation that we are uh basically in ball toss time um if that occurs again i'd like to discuss recommendation that we are uh basically in ball toss time um if that occurs again i'd like to discuss recommendation that we are uh basically in ball toss time um if that occurs again i'd like to discuss recommendation that we are uh basically in ball toss time um if that occurs again i'd like to discuss recommendation that we are uh basically in ball toss time um if that occurs again i'd like to discuss and i don't know that even we need this occasion that it happens again uh representation from the and i don't know that even we need this occasion that it happens again uh representation from the and i don't know that even we need this occasion that it happens again uh representation from the and i don't know that even we need this occasion that it happens again uh representation from the and i don't know that even we need this occasion that it happens again uh representation from the lower committee so they can speak to their points their points were not defended by them in any way lower committee so they can speak to their points their points were not defended by them in any way lower committee so they can speak to their points their points were not defended by them in any way lower committee so they can speak to their points their points were not defended by them in any way lower committee so they can speak to their points their points were not defended by them in any way just the notes and we looked at the recordings so when we know that's the case i'd like to have just the notes and we looked at the recordings so when we know that's the case i'd like to have just the notes and we looked at the recordings so when we know that's the case i'd like to have just the notes and we looked at the recordings so when we know that's the case i'd like to have just the notes and we looked at the recordings so when we know that's the case i'd like to have the chair of that committee come forward tell us their thinking because that may tip me in a way in the the chair of that committee come forward tell us their thinking because that may tip me in a way in the the chair of that committee come forward tell us their thinking because that may tip me in a way in the the chair of that committee come forward tell us their thinking because that may tip me in a way in the the chair of that committee come forward tell us their thinking because that may tip me in a way in the
future um i mean i'm going to say one thing that i think is i think it's up to them to articulate in future um i mean i'm going to say one thing that i think is i think it's up to them to articulate in future um i mean i'm going to say one thing that i think is i think it's up to them to articulate in future um i mean i'm going to say one thing that i think is i think it's up to them to articulate in future um i mean i'm going to say one thing that i think is i think it's up to them to articulate in the lpa meeting and maybe we need to educate better to their articulation because i watched the whole lpa meeting the lpa meeting and maybe we need to educate better to their articulation because i watched the whole lpa meeting the lpa meeting and maybe we need to educate better to their articulation because i watched the whole lpa meeting the lpa meeting and maybe we need to educate better to their articulation because i watched the whole lpa meeting the lpa meeting and maybe we need to educate better to their articulation because i watched the whole lpa meeting and it it really didn't get a lot of clarity within it um um in terms of most of the members and it it really didn't get a lot of clarity within it um um in terms of most of the members and it it really didn't get a lot of clarity within it um um in terms of most of the members and it it really didn't get a lot of clarity within it um um in terms of most of the members and it it really didn't get a lot of clarity within it um um in terms of most of the members um but i think it's the word is we should educate them to be more clear on exactly you know as as their um but i think it's the word is we should educate them to be more clear on exactly you know as as their um but i think it's the word is we should educate them to be more clear on exactly you know as as their um but i think it's the word is we should educate them to be more clear on exactly you know as as their um but i think it's the word is we should educate them to be more clear on exactly you know as as their total membership not just one or two people about why they're they feel or don't feel there's merit to total membership not just one or two people about why they're they feel or don't feel there's merit to total membership not just one or two people about why they're they feel or don't feel there's merit to total membership not just one or two people about why they're they feel or don't feel there's merit to total membership not just one or two people about why they're they feel or don't feel there's merit to some issues because you so say what you think because yeah no i was gonna i was actually going some issues because you so say what you think because yeah no i was gonna i was actually going some issues because you so say what you think because yeah no i was gonna i was actually going some issues because you so say what you think because yeah no i was gonna i was actually going some issues because you so say what you think because yeah no i was gonna i was actually going
to say something similar with that is so if they're you know um if the applicant and staff to say something similar with that is so if they're you know um if the applicant and staff to say something similar with that is so if they're you know um if the applicant and staff to say something similar with that is so if they're you know um if the applicant and staff to say something similar with that is so if they're you know um if the applicant and staff i think are on the same page it's going forward and the lpa supports it that's um like the easiest i think are on the same page it's going forward and the lpa supports it that's um like the easiest i think are on the same page it's going forward and the lpa supports it that's um like the easiest i think are on the same page it's going forward and the lpa supports it that's um like the easiest i think are on the same page it's going forward and the lpa supports it that's um like the easiest situation um and you have all that information but i think to the extent that there is some disagreement situation um and you have all that information but i think to the extent that there is some disagreement situation um and you have all that information but i think to the extent that there is some disagreement situation um and you have all that information but i think to the extent that there is some disagreement situation um and you have all that information but i think to the extent that there is some disagreement from one of the boards on what's being presented they're not following staff or staff and the from one of the boards on what's being presented they're not following staff or staff and the from one of the boards on what's being presented they're not following staff or staff and the from one of the boards on what's being presented they're not following staff or staff and the from one of the boards on what's being presented they're not following staff or staff and the applicant are at odds then maybe in those situations we ask that they please provide some detail on the applicant are at odds then maybe in those situations we ask that they please provide some detail on the applicant are at odds then maybe in those situations we ask that they please provide some detail on the applicant are at odds then maybe in those situations we ask that they please provide some detail on the applicant are at odds then maybe in those situations we ask that they please provide some detail on the decision that they're making maybe what they do is they go similarly to what you did this evening is decision that they're making maybe what they do is they go similarly to what you did this evening is decision that they're making maybe what they do is they go similarly to what you did this evening is decision that they're making maybe what they do is they go similarly to what you did this evening is decision that they're making maybe what they do is they go similarly to what you did this evening is each one speaks about you know why they what they feel about the the decision that they're making and each one speaks about you know why they what they feel about the the decision that they're making and each one speaks about you know why they what they feel about the the decision that they're making and each one speaks about you know why they what they feel about the the decision that they're making and each one speaks about you know why they what they feel about the the decision that they're making and their rationale behind that and that's something that can be done um we can prompt them somewhat their rationale behind that and that's something that can be done um we can prompt them somewhat their rationale behind that and that's something that can be done um we can prompt them somewhat their rationale behind that and that's something that can be done um we can prompt them somewhat their rationale behind that and that's something that can be done um we can prompt them somewhat because you know we're we're sitting if it's not me it's it's one of the attorneys from my firm that because you know we're we're sitting if it's not me it's it's one of the attorneys from my firm that because you know we're we're sitting if it's not me it's it's one of the attorneys from my firm that because you know we're we're sitting if it's not me it's it's one of the attorneys from my firm that because you know we're we're sitting if it's not me it's it's one of the attorneys from my firm that are sitting at those boards and we can say you know one of the requests that's been from the commission is are sitting at those boards and we can say you know one of the requests that's been from the commission is are sitting at those boards and we can say you know one of the requests that's been from the commission is are sitting at those boards and we can say you know one of the requests that's been from the commission is are sitting at those boards and we can say you know one of the requests that's been from the commission is they really want to understand what was influential in your decision and so and ask them to please state they really want to understand what was influential in your decision and so and ask them to please state they really want to understand what was influential in your decision and so and ask them to please state they really want to understand what was influential in your decision and so and ask them to please state they really want to understand what was influential in your decision and so and ask them to please state
that so you have that information i i just find that our trying to interpret a lower committee that so you have that information i i just find that our trying to interpret a lower committee that so you have that information i i just find that our trying to interpret a lower committee that so you have that information i i just find that our trying to interpret a lower committee that so you have that information i i just find that our trying to interpret a lower committee to be a little like divining something and if they have a feeling about something and they wish to to be a little like divining something and if they have a feeling about something and they wish to to be a little like divining something and if they have a feeling about something and they wish to to be a little like divining something and if they have a feeling about something and they wish to to be a little like divining something and if they have a feeling about something and they wish to articulate it i think and there's a difference between staff and that committee's view i'd like articulate it i think and there's a difference between staff and that committee's view i'd like articulate it i think and there's a difference between staff and that committee's view i'd like articulate it i think and there's a difference between staff and that committee's view i'd like articulate it i think and there's a difference between staff and that committee's view i'd like to hear from the committee as well as staff tonight i got to hear from staff i would like to respect those to hear from the committee as well as staff tonight i got to hear from staff i would like to respect those to hear from the committee as well as staff tonight i got to hear from staff i would like to respect those to hear from the committee as well as staff tonight i got to hear from staff i would like to respect those to hear from the committee as well as staff tonight i got to hear from staff i would like to respect those committees to the extent that if they have a differing point of view they have the opportunity to present committees to the extent that if they have a differing point of view they have the opportunity to present committees to the extent that if they have a differing point of view they have the opportunity to present committees to the extent that if they have a differing point of view they have the opportunity to present committees to the extent that if they have a differing point of view they have the opportunity to present it to us that's my i'm just concerned about having them actually speak at a public hearing and become it to us that's my i'm just concerned about having them actually speak at a public hearing and become it to us that's my i'm just concerned about having them actually speak at a public hearing and become it to us that's my i'm just concerned about having them actually speak at a public hearing and become it to us that's my i'm just concerned about having them actually speak at a public hearing and become
part of our public hearing process i and and again it's not unusual at all for the commission to not part of our public hearing process i and and again it's not unusual at all for the commission to not part of our public hearing process i and and again it's not unusual at all for the commission to not part of our public hearing process i and and again it's not unusual at all for the commission to not part of our public hearing process i and and again it's not unusual at all for the commission to not agree all the time with lpa um and yeah you can speak to that commissioner um and sometimes it's agree all the time with lpa um and yeah you can speak to that commissioner um and sometimes it's agree all the time with lpa um and yeah you can speak to that commissioner um and sometimes it's agree all the time with lpa um and yeah you can speak to that commissioner um and sometimes it's agree all the time with lpa um and yeah you can speak to that commissioner um and sometimes it's you know in some of my memory it would be because you know you there's i mean some of these projects you know in some of my memory it would be because you know you there's i mean some of these projects you know in some of my memory it would be because you know you there's i mean some of these projects you know in some of my memory it would be because you know you there's i mean some of these projects you know in some of my memory it would be because you know you there's i mean some of these projects we've had less people we used to the place would be packed with people against certain projects and we've had less people we used to the place would be packed with people against certain projects and we've had less people we used to the place would be packed with people against certain projects and we've had less people we used to the place would be packed with people against certain projects and we've had less people we used to the place would be packed with people against certain projects and that would drive you know a lot of different feelings of you know sometimes on the lpa people that would drive you know a lot of different feelings of you know sometimes on the lpa people that would drive you know a lot of different feelings of you know sometimes on the lpa people that would drive you know a lot of different feelings of you know sometimes on the lpa people that would drive you know a lot of different feelings of you know sometimes on the lpa people would just i mean it was a little scary i don't know how else to say it but i do think actually would just i mean it was a little scary i don't know how else to say it but i do think actually would just i mean it was a little scary i don't know how else to say it but i do think actually would just i mean it was a little scary i don't know how else to say it but i do think actually would just i mean it was a little scary i don't know how else to say it but i do think actually making them part of our public hearing process and coming forward to speak i i'm i'd like to find making them part of our public hearing process and coming forward to speak i i'm i'd like to find making them part of our public hearing process and coming forward to speak i i'm i'd like to find making them part of our public hearing process and coming forward to speak i i'm i'd like to find making them part of our public hearing process and coming forward to speak i i'm i'd like to find a different solution because i just think and i'm getting head shakes you you have any thoughts on all a different solution because i just think and i'm getting head shakes you you have any thoughts on all a different solution because i just think and i'm getting head shakes you you have any thoughts on all a different solution because i just think and i'm getting head shakes you you have any thoughts on all a different solution because i just think and i'm getting head shakes you you have any thoughts on all
this too no but uh i know that the first time we voted in favor of something and the city commission this too no but uh i know that the first time we voted in favor of something and the city commission this too no but uh i know that the first time we voted in favor of something and the city commission this too no but uh i know that the first time we voted in favor of something and the city commission this too no but uh i know that the first time we voted in favor of something and the city commission denied it i kind of took it a little personal because i wondered what i did wrong but uh i i see where denied it i kind of took it a little personal because i wondered what i did wrong but uh i i see where denied it i kind of took it a little personal because i wondered what i did wrong but uh i i see where denied it i kind of took it a little personal because i wondered what i did wrong but uh i i see where denied it i kind of took it a little personal because i wondered what i did wrong but uh i i see where tom is going but i think that now i make it a point to go out and watch the video of it tom is going but i think that now i make it a point to go out and watch the video of it tom is going but i think that now i make it a point to go out and watch the video of it tom is going but i think that now i make it a point to go out and watch the video of it tom is going but i think that now i make it a point to go out and watch the video of it and kind of get a feel for what they're getting at i i don't know right i mean and to bring them up and kind of get a feel for what they're getting at i i don't know right i mean and to bring them up and kind of get a feel for what they're getting at i i don't know right i mean and to bring them up and kind of get a feel for what they're getting at i i don't know right i mean and to bring them up and kind of get a feel for what they're getting at i i don't know right i mean and to bring them up here but i don't know it could it could be a little awkward and it's it's not my decision i mean if they here but i don't know it could it could be a little awkward and it's it's not my decision i mean if they here but i don't know it could it could be a little awkward and it's it's not my decision i mean if they here but i don't know it could it could be a little awkward and it's it's not my decision i mean if they here but i don't know it could it could be a little awkward and it's it's not my decision i mean if they want to come forward even as a citizen but you know the lpa does a good job right right the city want to come forward even as a citizen but you know the lpa does a good job right right the city want to come forward even as a citizen but you know the lpa does a good job right right the city want to come forward even as a citizen but you know the lpa does a good job right right the city want to come forward even as a citizen but you know the lpa does a good job right right the city
manager's thoughts thank you mayor uh and commission i think actually um what we would have to have to be manager's thoughts thank you mayor uh and commission i think actually um what we would have to have to be manager's thoughts thank you mayor uh and commission i think actually um what we would have to have to be manager's thoughts thank you mayor uh and commission i think actually um what we would have to have to be manager's thoughts thank you mayor uh and commission i think actually um what we would have to have to be very careful as well about how we convey that to whatever border committee it is as far as staff very careful as well about how we convey that to whatever border committee it is as far as staff very careful as well about how we convey that to whatever border committee it is as far as staff very careful as well about how we convey that to whatever border committee it is as far as staff very careful as well about how we convey that to whatever border committee it is as far as staff goes it's conveyed the way jennifer had said that that the commission would probably like to have goes it's conveyed the way jennifer had said that that the commission would probably like to have goes it's conveyed the way jennifer had said that that the commission would probably like to have goes it's conveyed the way jennifer had said that that the commission would probably like to have goes it's conveyed the way jennifer had said that that the commission would probably like to have know more about why it is you're making this recommendation as opposed to staff saying well know more about why it is you're making this recommendation as opposed to staff saying well know more about why it is you're making this recommendation as opposed to staff saying well know more about why it is you're making this recommendation as opposed to staff saying well know more about why it is you're making this recommendation as opposed to staff saying well why did you make that recommendation it's not the recommendation we you know so i think that it why did you make that recommendation it's not the recommendation we you know so i think that it why did you make that recommendation it's not the recommendation we you know so i think that it why did you make that recommendation it's not the recommendation we you know so i think that it why did you make that recommendation it's not the recommendation we you know so i think that it actually puts staff in a in a bad position right um but i'll give you an example though of yeah actually puts staff in a in a bad position right um but i'll give you an example though of yeah actually puts staff in a in a bad position right um but i'll give you an example though of yeah actually puts staff in a in a bad position right um but i'll give you an example though of yeah actually puts staff in a in a bad position right um but i'll give you an example though of yeah that's right on i agree yeah but then there's an example board of finance reports out to you that's right on i agree yeah but then there's an example board of finance reports out to you that's right on i agree yeah but then there's an example board of finance reports out to you that's right on i agree yeah but then there's an example board of finance reports out to you that's right on i agree yeah but then there's an example board of finance reports out to you and we don't agree with a lot of what's in the board of finance report when we're doing the budget and we don't agree with a lot of what's in the board of finance report when we're doing the budget and we don't agree with a lot of what's in the board of finance report when we're doing the budget and we don't agree with a lot of what's in the board of finance report when we're doing the budget and we don't agree with a lot of what's in the board of finance report when we're doing the budget so it might be uh something in terms of of with a committee in particular as you may know it's usually so it might be uh something in terms of of with a committee in particular as you may know it's usually so it might be uh something in terms of of with a committee in particular as you may know it's usually so it might be uh something in terms of of with a committee in particular as you may know it's usually so it might be uh something in terms of of with a committee in particular as you may know it's usually well then write a letter to the city commission and the whole committee has to you know approve it and well then write a letter to the city commission and the whole committee has to you know approve it and well then write a letter to the city commission and the whole committee has to you know approve it and well then write a letter to the city commission and the whole committee has to you know approve it and well then write a letter to the city commission and the whole committee has to you know approve it and it goes to the city commission and there's one coming to you actually soon because the board of it goes to the city commission and there's one coming to you actually soon because the board of it goes to the city commission and there's one coming to you actually soon because the board of it goes to the city commission and there's one coming to you actually soon because the board of it goes to the city commission and there's one coming to you actually soon because the board of
finance just recently um don't you think a quasi-judicial board is different than yeah and finance just recently um don't you think a quasi-judicial board is different than yeah and finance just recently um don't you think a quasi-judicial board is different than yeah and finance just recently um don't you think a quasi-judicial board is different than yeah and finance just recently um don't you think a quasi-judicial board is different than yeah and
just in it i just i think this is getting a little so what i would say with that is um the evidence just in it i just i think this is getting a little so what i would say with that is um the evidence just in it i just i think this is getting a little so what i would say with that is um the evidence just in it i just i think this is getting a little so what i would say with that is um the evidence just in it i just i think this is getting a little so what i would say with that is um the evidence now it hopefully will be the same or similar when it comes to you but the evidence that's presented to now it hopefully will be the same or similar when it comes to you but the evidence that's presented to now it hopefully will be the same or similar when it comes to you but the evidence that's presented to now it hopefully will be the same or similar when it comes to you but the evidence that's presented to now it hopefully will be the same or similar when it comes to you but the evidence that's presented to them at the time is what they have so there may be something post lpa that gets submitted to staff that them at the time is what they have so there may be something post lpa that gets submitted to staff that them at the time is what they have so there may be something post lpa that gets submitted to staff that them at the time is what they have so there may be something post lpa that gets submitted to staff that them at the time is what they have so there may be something post lpa that gets submitted to staff that lpa didn't have that in their packet when they were considering it so they're making a decision on the lpa didn't have that in their packet when they were considering it so they're making a decision on the lpa didn't have that in their packet when they were considering it so they're making a decision on the lpa didn't have that in their packet when they were considering it so they're making a decision on the lpa didn't have that in their packet when they were considering it so they're making a decision on the evidence that's presented to them at the time i think what's beneficial is potentially to encourage evidence that's presented to them at the time i think what's beneficial is potentially to encourage evidence that's presented to them at the time i think what's beneficial is potentially to encourage evidence that's presented to them at the time i think what's beneficial is potentially to encourage evidence that's presented to them at the time i think what's beneficial is potentially to encourage them to explain what evidence was persuasive to them that led them to that decision and i think them to explain what evidence was persuasive to them that led them to that decision and i think them to explain what evidence was persuasive to them that led them to that decision and i think them to explain what evidence was persuasive to them that led them to that decision and i think them to explain what evidence was persuasive to them that led them to that decision and i think that could be beneficial as to why they're they're doing that here you're supposed to judge on the that could be beneficial as to why they're they're doing that here you're supposed to judge on the that could be beneficial as to why they're they're doing that here you're supposed to judge on the that could be beneficial as to why they're they're doing that here you're supposed to judge on the that could be beneficial as to why they're they're doing that here you're supposed to judge on the evidence that's presented to you and so um them explaining their decision isn't necessarily evidence that's presented to you and so um them explaining their decision isn't necessarily evidence that's presented to you and so um them explaining their decision isn't necessarily evidence that's presented to you and so um them explaining their decision isn't necessarily evidence that's presented to you and so um them explaining their decision isn't necessarily presenting you with evidence it's you have to rely on what the applicant is providing you presenting you with evidence it's you have to rely on what the applicant is providing you presenting you with evidence it's you have to rely on what the applicant is providing you presenting you with evidence it's you have to rely on what the applicant is providing you presenting you with evidence it's you have to rely on what the applicant is providing you and what the um substantial incompetent evidence that's provided from any member of the public and and what the um substantial incompetent evidence that's provided from any member of the public and and what the um substantial incompetent evidence that's provided from any member of the public and and what the um substantial incompetent evidence that's provided from any member of the public and and what the um substantial incompetent evidence that's provided from any member of the public and
then also what's provided to you by staff yeah so now i i agree but i think just the quasi-judicial then also what's provided to you by staff yeah so now i i agree but i think just the quasi-judicial then also what's provided to you by staff yeah so now i i agree but i think just the quasi-judicial then also what's provided to you by staff yeah so now i i agree but i think just the quasi-judicial then also what's provided to you by staff yeah so now i i agree but i think just the quasi-judicial piece of this really makes this about checks and balances and you know i i appreciate commissioner piece of this really makes this about checks and balances and you know i i appreciate commissioner piece of this really makes this about checks and balances and you know i i appreciate commissioner piece of this really makes this about checks and balances and you know i i appreciate commissioner piece of this really makes this about checks and balances and you know i i appreciate commissioner degard's point on this um but to that point you know i we we do our homework uh we we know where degard's point on this um but to that point you know i we we do our homework uh we we know where degard's point on this um but to that point you know i we we do our homework uh we we know where degard's point on this um but to that point you know i we we do our homework uh we we know where degard's point on this um but to that point you know i we we do our homework uh we we know where it it turned out but at the end of the day that's that's one data point in terms of how at least i view it it turned out but at the end of the day that's that's one data point in terms of how at least i view it it turned out but at the end of the day that's that's one data point in terms of how at least i view it it turned out but at the end of the day that's that's one data point in terms of how at least i view it it turned out but at the end of the day that's that's one data point in terms of how at least i view things and essentially um that data point is is weighed equally with everything else that gets things and essentially um that data point is is weighed equally with everything else that gets things and essentially um that data point is is weighed equally with everything else that gets things and essentially um that data point is is weighed equally with everything else that gets things and essentially um that data point is is weighed equally with everything else that gets presented to us at this point in time um because if we're we're trying to kind of sort through the presented to us at this point in time um because if we're we're trying to kind of sort through the presented to us at this point in time um because if we're we're trying to kind of sort through the presented to us at this point in time um because if we're we're trying to kind of sort through the presented to us at this point in time um because if we're we're trying to kind of sort through the rationale and everything else it's almost like we're trying to come to agreement and agreement is not rationale and everything else it's almost like we're trying to come to agreement and agreement is not rationale and everything else it's almost like we're trying to come to agreement and agreement is not rationale and everything else it's almost like we're trying to come to agreement and agreement is not rationale and everything else it's almost like we're trying to come to agreement and agreement is not necessarily required we we need to be able to view this as an independent body in my opinion um i think necessarily required we we need to be able to view this as an independent body in my opinion um i think necessarily required we we need to be able to view this as an independent body in my opinion um i think necessarily required we we need to be able to view this as an independent body in my opinion um i think necessarily required we we need to be able to view this as an independent body in my opinion um i think
we came to a good decision tonight i'm not this is not an impeachment of how we came to what we came we came to a good decision tonight i'm not this is not an impeachment of how we came to what we came we came to a good decision tonight i'm not this is not an impeachment of how we came to what we came we came to a good decision tonight i'm not this is not an impeachment of how we came to what we came we came to a good decision tonight i'm not this is not an impeachment of how we came to what we came to i guess it's more of a respect i wish to have for the efforts of our committees and what they're to i guess it's more of a respect i wish to have for the efforts of our committees and what they're to i guess it's more of a respect i wish to have for the efforts of our committees and what they're to i guess it's more of a respect i wish to have for the efforts of our committees and what they're to i guess it's more of a respect i wish to have for the efforts of our committees and what they're doing and that when we go contrary to what a lower committee whether it's quasi-judicial or just an doing and that when we go contrary to what a lower committee whether it's quasi-judicial or just an doing and that when we go contrary to what a lower committee whether it's quasi-judicial or just an doing and that when we go contrary to what a lower committee whether it's quasi-judicial or just an doing and that when we go contrary to what a lower committee whether it's quasi-judicial or just an advisory committee i want to hear what their thoughts were beyond what was on the recordings and advisory committee i want to hear what their thoughts were beyond what was on the recordings and advisory committee i want to hear what their thoughts were beyond what was on the recordings and advisory committee i want to hear what their thoughts were beyond what was on the recordings and advisory committee i want to hear what their thoughts were beyond what was on the recordings and the votes at the time because you and i both know that oftentimes a vote will be swung by the simplest the votes at the time because you and i both know that oftentimes a vote will be swung by the simplest the votes at the time because you and i both know that oftentimes a vote will be swung by the simplest the votes at the time because you and i both know that oftentimes a vote will be swung by the simplest the votes at the time because you and i both know that oftentimes a vote will be swung by the simplest of things in there and it's not based on factual it's based on something else a moment of time and of things in there and it's not based on factual it's based on something else a moment of time and of things in there and it's not based on factual it's based on something else a moment of time and of things in there and it's not based on factual it's based on something else a moment of time and of things in there and it's not based on factual it's based on something else a moment of time and there were two sides to this the first side was of course we want development but we don't want to there were two sides to this the first side was of course we want development but we don't want to there were two sides to this the first side was of course we want development but we don't want to there were two sides to this the first side was of course we want development but we don't want to there were two sides to this the first side was of course we want development but we don't want to crowd our community we don't want to overgrow it and so we were we were in that same place and they crowd our community we don't want to overgrow it and so we were we were in that same place and they crowd our community we don't want to overgrow it and so we were we were in that same place and they crowd our community we don't want to overgrow it and so we were we were in that same place and they crowd our community we don't want to overgrow it and so we were we were in that same place and they fell on the side of growth and we fell on the side of preservation both are good positions there's fell on the side of growth and we fell on the side of preservation both are good positions there's fell on the side of growth and we fell on the side of preservation both are good positions there's fell on the side of growth and we fell on the side of preservation both are good positions there's fell on the side of growth and we fell on the side of preservation both are good positions there's nothing wrong with either position it's just i want to make sure that the relationship between nothing wrong with either position it's just i want to make sure that the relationship between nothing wrong with either position it's just i want to make sure that the relationship between nothing wrong with either position it's just i want to make sure that the relationship between nothing wrong with either position it's just i want to make sure that the relationship between the city commission and our lower committees is one where it's open and they have the opportunity the city commission and our lower committees is one where it's open and they have the opportunity the city commission and our lower committees is one where it's open and they have the opportunity the city commission and our lower committees is one where it's open and they have the opportunity the city commission and our lower committees is one where it's open and they have the opportunity to express themselves when there is a conflict between the committee and the staff when the to express themselves when there is a conflict between the committee and the staff when the to express themselves when there is a conflict between the committee and the staff when the to express themselves when there is a conflict between the committee and the staff when the to express themselves when there is a conflict between the committee and the staff when the committee comes forward with a thought and it's it's complementary or consistent with staff i don't committee comes forward with a thought and it's it's complementary or consistent with staff i don't committee comes forward with a thought and it's it's complementary or consistent with staff i don't committee comes forward with a thought and it's it's complementary or consistent with staff i don't committee comes forward with a thought and it's it's complementary or consistent with staff i don't think we have a problem that's not the problem i'm not looking for input then i am looking for think we have a problem that's not the problem i'm not looking for input then i am looking for think we have a problem that's not the problem i'm not looking for input then i am looking for think we have a problem that's not the problem i'm not looking for input then i am looking for think we have a problem that's not the problem i'm not looking for input then i am looking for
understanding when that's not the case that's all can that understanding tom be met i with understanding when that's not the case that's all can that understanding tom be met i with understanding when that's not the case that's all can that understanding tom be met i with understanding when that's not the case that's all can that understanding tom be met i with understanding when that's not the case that's all can that understanding tom be met i with meeting with them instead of them coming to one of our meetings just saying hey kevin are we allowed meeting with them instead of them coming to one of our meetings just saying hey kevin are we allowed meeting with them instead of them coming to one of our meetings just saying hey kevin are we allowed meeting with them instead of them coming to one of our meetings just saying hey kevin are we allowed meeting with them instead of them coming to one of our meetings just saying hey kevin are we allowed
to do that oh i'm not going there because there's some people in the sunshine world that think that's to do that oh i'm not going there because there's some people in the sunshine world that think that's to do that oh i'm not going there because there's some people in the sunshine world that think that's to do that oh i'm not going there because there's some people in the sunshine world that think that's to do that oh i'm not going there because there's some people in the sunshine world that think that's
wrong just i'm not going to go there um okay so again what i would say is valuable that you have wrong just i'm not going to go there um okay so again what i would say is valuable that you have wrong just i'm not going to go there um okay so again what i would say is valuable that you have wrong just i'm not going to go there um okay so again what i would say is valuable that you have wrong just i'm not going to go there um okay so again what i would say is valuable that you have that discussion here for their benefit and that you also um you know explain why you decided the way that discussion here for their benefit and that you also um you know explain why you decided the way that discussion here for their benefit and that you also um you know explain why you decided the way that discussion here for their benefit and that you also um you know explain why you decided the way that discussion here for their benefit and that you also um you know explain why you decided the way that you did so they can understand what that distinction was um but if i'd like to try it with us that you did so they can understand what that distinction was um but if i'd like to try it with us that you did so they can understand what that distinction was um but if i'd like to try it with us that you did so they can understand what that distinction was um but if i'd like to try it with us that you did so they can understand what that distinction was um but if i'd like to try it with us with legal prompting them and reminding them that the commission would you know if they could please with legal prompting them and reminding them that the commission would you know if they could please with legal prompting them and reminding them that the commission would you know if they could please with legal prompting them and reminding them that the commission would you know if they could please with legal prompting them and reminding them that the commission would you know if they could please explain because the commission always wants to know if it's not all uniform um and see if they could explain because the commission always wants to know if it's not all uniform um and see if they could explain because the commission always wants to know if it's not all uniform um and see if they could explain because the commission always wants to know if it's not all uniform um and see if they could explain because the commission always wants to know if it's not all uniform um and see if they could
do that okay um i um i will say staff actually did a lot more work on compatibility for this presentation do that okay um i um i will say staff actually did a lot more work on compatibility for this presentation do that okay um i um i will say staff actually did a lot more work on compatibility for this presentation do that okay um i um i will say staff actually did a lot more work on compatibility for this presentation do that okay um i um i will say staff actually did a lot more work on compatibility for this presentation because i watched the other one so um that could be and i do think there's some term limits issue here because i watched the other one so um that could be and i do think there's some term limits issue here because i watched the other one so um that could be and i do think there's some term limits issue here because i watched the other one so um that could be and i do think there's some term limits issue here because i watched the other one so um that could be and i do think there's some term limits issue here i mean to be having back a term limit issue because i think you've lost a lot of the history on there i mean to be having back a term limit issue because i think you've lost a lot of the history on there i mean to be having back a term limit issue because i think you've lost a lot of the history on there i mean to be having back a term limit issue because i think you've lost a lot of the history on there i mean to be having back a term limit issue because i think you've lost a lot of the history on there you know and i think that i think they're all good people but but compatibility has a long history and you know and i think that i think they're all good people but but compatibility has a long history and you know and i think that i think they're all good people but but compatibility has a long history and you know and i think that i think they're all good people but but compatibility has a long history and you know and i think that i think they're all good people but but compatibility has a long history and if you don't have some of that i think that you you know maybe the nuances weren't weren't as strong to if you don't have some of that i think that you you know maybe the nuances weren't weren't as strong to if you don't have some of that i think that you you know maybe the nuances weren't weren't as strong to if you don't have some of that i think that you you know maybe the nuances weren't weren't as strong to if you don't have some of that i think that you you know maybe the nuances weren't weren't as strong to them um but i i guess i need to ask the the uh city attorney i was fully intending to meet with them um but i i guess i need to ask the the uh city attorney i was fully intending to meet with them um but i i guess i need to ask the the uh city attorney i was fully intending to meet with them um but i i guess i need to ask the the uh city attorney i was fully intending to meet with them um but i i guess i need to ask the the uh city attorney i was fully intending to meet with chair benjamin after this decision was done just in general about the lpa and i mean that's okay chair benjamin after this decision was done just in general about the lpa and i mean that's okay chair benjamin after this decision was done just in general about the lpa and i mean that's okay chair benjamin after this decision was done just in general about the lpa and i mean that's okay chair benjamin after this decision was done just in general about the lpa and i mean that's okay right yeah and so that you know and to me because again we want to respect what they do and um and so right yeah and so that you know and to me because again we want to respect what they do and um and so right yeah and so that you know and to me because again we want to respect what they do and um and so right yeah and so that you know and to me because again we want to respect what they do and um and so right yeah and so that you know and to me because again we want to respect what they do and um and so but i told him i i don't want to talk until after this is done because i don't want to roam into that but i told him i i don't want to talk until after this is done because i don't want to roam into that but i told him i i don't want to talk until after this is done because i don't want to roam into that but i told him i i don't want to talk until after this is done because i don't want to roam into that but i told him i i don't want to talk until after this is done because i don't want to roam into that and then you know because you know obviously he wants to do the best job as the new chair that he can and then you know because you know obviously he wants to do the best job as the new chair that he can and then you know because you know obviously he wants to do the best job as the new chair that he can and then you know because you know obviously he wants to do the best job as the new chair that he can and then you know because you know obviously he wants to do the best job as the new chair that he can possibly do so i just there was something you said there that made me a little uncomfortable so possibly do so i just there was something you said there that made me a little uncomfortable so possibly do so i just there was something you said there that made me a little uncomfortable so possibly do so i just there was something you said there that made me a little uncomfortable so possibly do so i just there was something you said there that made me a little uncomfortable so okay sounds good i think it's a good discussion um anything else tom okay sounds good i think it's a good discussion um anything else tom okay sounds good i think it's a good discussion um anything else tom okay sounds good i think it's a good discussion um anything else tom okay sounds good i think it's a good discussion um anything else tom commissioner by the way i think you won the over under on my own commissioner by the way i think you won the over under on my own commissioner by the way i think you won the over under on my own commissioner by the way i think you won the over under on my own commissioner by the way i think you won the over under on my own okay commission discussion comments uh vice mayor yes one second okay so a couple things um okay commission discussion comments uh vice mayor yes one second okay so a couple things um okay commission discussion comments uh vice mayor yes one second okay so a couple things um okay commission discussion comments uh vice mayor yes one second okay so a couple things um okay commission discussion comments uh vice mayor yes one second okay so a couple things um
so the uh the the check uh presentation by uh congresswoman luna and uh to psta i i think that so the uh the the check uh presentation by uh congresswoman luna and uh to psta i i think that so the uh the the check uh presentation by uh congresswoman luna and uh to psta i i think that so the uh the the check uh presentation by uh congresswoman luna and uh to psta i i think that so the uh the the check uh presentation by uh congresswoman luna and uh to psta i i think that was uh that was great it was it was nice to be able to and this is really more of a of a shout out to was uh that was great it was it was nice to be able to and this is really more of a of a shout out to was uh that was great it was it was nice to be able to and this is really more of a of a shout out to was uh that was great it was it was nice to be able to and this is really more of a of a shout out to was uh that was great it was it was nice to be able to and this is really more of a of a shout out to to the city and to the staff um you know it's kind of it's kind of nice when you get to that point to the city and to the staff um you know it's kind of it's kind of nice when you get to that point to the city and to the staff um you know it's kind of it's kind of nice when you get to that point to the city and to the staff um you know it's kind of it's kind of nice when you get to that point to the city and to the staff um you know it's kind of it's kind of nice when you get to that point where it's uh you're you're starting to realize that the end is in sight and i will say in my remarks where it's uh you're you're starting to realize that the end is in sight and i will say in my remarks where it's uh you're you're starting to realize that the end is in sight and i will say in my remarks where it's uh you're you're starting to realize that the end is in sight and i will say in my remarks where it's uh you're you're starting to realize that the end is in sight and i will say in my remarks this is what recovery looks like so well done city manager well done to the staff and it was it was this is what recovery looks like so well done city manager well done to the staff and it was it was this is what recovery looks like so well done city manager well done to the staff and it was it was this is what recovery looks like so well done city manager well done to the staff and it was it was this is what recovery looks like so well done city manager well done to the staff and it was it was definitely a feel-good moment for me um another feel-good moment um and you know i'm i'm going definitely a feel-good moment for me um another feel-good moment um and you know i'm i'm going definitely a feel-good moment for me um another feel-good moment um and you know i'm i'm going definitely a feel-good moment for me um another feel-good moment um and you know i'm i'm going definitely a feel-good moment for me um another feel-good moment um and you know i'm i'm going to share this i think jeff and i share this this this passion with the uh dunedin high school navy junior to share this i think jeff and i share this this this passion with the uh dunedin high school navy junior to share this i think jeff and i share this this this passion with the uh dunedin high school navy junior to share this i think jeff and i share this this this passion with the uh dunedin high school navy junior to share this i think jeff and i share this this this passion with the uh dunedin high school navy junior rotc but um so basically i'll i'll summarize falcon navy is one of the best jrotc units in the nation rotc but um so basically i'll i'll summarize falcon navy is one of the best jrotc units in the nation rotc but um so basically i'll i'll summarize falcon navy is one of the best jrotc units in the nation rotc but um so basically i'll i'll summarize falcon navy is one of the best jrotc units in the nation rotc but um so basically i'll i'll summarize falcon navy is one of the best jrotc units in the nation 15th overall out of 700 units they are competing in two different divisions first of all is all 15th overall out of 700 units they are competing in two different divisions first of all is all 15th overall out of 700 units they are competing in two different divisions first of all is all 15th overall out of 700 units they are competing in two different divisions first of all is all 15th overall out of 700 units they are competing in two different divisions first of all is all service and then navy they've had several cadets that have placed in individual drilling events in service and then navy they've had several cadets that have placed in individual drilling events in service and then navy they've had several cadets that have placed in individual drilling events in service and then navy they've had several cadets that have placed in individual drilling events in service and then navy they've had several cadets that have placed in individual drilling events in the in the top 10 and um they uh you know this is a you know and to think that okay we in here in the in the top 10 and um they uh you know this is a you know and to think that okay we in here in the in the top 10 and um they uh you know this is a you know and to think that okay we in here in the in the top 10 and um they uh you know this is a you know and to think that okay we in here in the in the top 10 and um they uh you know this is a you know and to think that okay we in here in dunedin 38 000 people we have a junior rotc unit that that performs at this level is just just amazing dunedin 38 000 people we have a junior rotc unit that that performs at this level is just just amazing dunedin 38 000 people we have a junior rotc unit that that performs at this level is just just amazing dunedin 38 000 people we have a junior rotc unit that that performs at this level is just just amazing dunedin 38 000 people we have a junior rotc unit that that performs at this level is just just amazing to me and i've i've i've been involved with rotc units forever and i will say i've never seen a group to me and i've i've i've been involved with rotc units forever and i will say i've never seen a group to me and i've i've i've been involved with rotc units forever and i will say i've never seen a group to me and i've i've i've been involved with rotc units forever and i will say i've never seen a group to me and i've i've i've been involved with rotc units forever and i will say i've never seen a group that this more passionate and more squared away than this group is and so i guess my point in this that this more passionate and more squared away than this group is and so i guess my point in this that this more passionate and more squared away than this group is and so i guess my point in this that this more passionate and more squared away than this group is and so i guess my point in this that this more passionate and more squared away than this group is and so i guess my point in this is is that you know i this is just kind of the question i have is this i i think is is that you know i this is just kind of the question i have is this i i think is is that you know i this is just kind of the question i have is this i i think is is that you know i this is just kind of the question i have is this i i think is is that you know i this is just kind of the question i have is this i i think is the city as the commission it would be great to provide recognition to them here in a public forum is the city as the commission it would be great to provide recognition to them here in a public forum is the city as the commission it would be great to provide recognition to them here in a public forum is the city as the commission it would be great to provide recognition to them here in a public forum is the city as the commission it would be great to provide recognition to them here in a public forum so that's my ask on that so uh other than that i know i'm missing something but i'm a little bit so that's my ask on that so uh other than that i know i'm missing something but i'm a little bit so that's my ask on that so uh other than that i know i'm missing something but i'm a little bit so that's my ask on that so uh other than that i know i'm missing something but i'm a little bit so that's my ask on that so uh other than that i know i'm missing something but i'm a little bit
of a haze right now so that's all i've got okay um yeah during that conversation i didn't mean to have of a haze right now so that's all i've got okay um yeah during that conversation i didn't mean to have of a haze right now so that's all i've got okay um yeah during that conversation i didn't mean to have of a haze right now so that's all i've got okay um yeah during that conversation i didn't mean to have of a haze right now so that's all i've got okay um yeah during that conversation i didn't mean to have my back to you guys so i apologize uh commissioner sanberg really nothing else to add to that mayor hey my back to you guys so i apologize uh commissioner sanberg really nothing else to add to that mayor hey my back to you guys so i apologize uh commissioner sanberg really nothing else to add to that mayor hey my back to you guys so i apologize uh commissioner sanberg really nothing else to add to that mayor hey my back to you guys so i apologize uh commissioner sanberg really nothing else to add to that mayor hey you you maybe you have a better memory um the the email that chris settle from the high school you you maybe you have a better memory um the the email that chris settle from the high school you you maybe you have a better memory um the the email that chris settle from the high school you you maybe you have a better memory um the the email that chris settle from the high school you you maybe you have a better memory um the the email that chris settle from the high school sent us about the donation yes did you want to mention that yeah the uh i thought that was kind of sent us about the donation yes did you want to mention that yeah the uh i thought that was kind of sent us about the donation yes did you want to mention that yeah the uh i thought that was kind of sent us about the donation yes did you want to mention that yeah the uh i thought that was kind of sent us about the donation yes did you want to mention that yeah the uh i thought that was kind of
cool i had heard that that was uh something that was being worked on um thank you to of course one of cool i had heard that that was uh something that was being worked on um thank you to of course one of cool i had heard that that was uh something that was being worked on um thank you to of course one of cool i had heard that that was uh something that was being worked on um thank you to of course one of cool i had heard that that was uh something that was being worked on um thank you to of course one of our best community partners and the the blue jays donated i'm not sure how the money was raised our best community partners and the the blue jays donated i'm not sure how the money was raised our best community partners and the the blue jays donated i'm not sure how the money was raised our best community partners and the the blue jays donated i'm not sure how the money was raised our best community partners and the the blue jays donated i'm not sure how the money was raised if it was right from the jays foundation twenty five hundred dollars to the dunedin girls softball team if it was right from the jays foundation twenty five hundred dollars to the dunedin girls softball team if it was right from the jays foundation twenty five hundred dollars to the dunedin girls softball team if it was right from the jays foundation twenty five hundred dollars to the dunedin girls softball team if it was right from the jays foundation twenty five hundred dollars to the dunedin girls softball team to purchase i believe it was cleats and maybe some other equipment and uh that was a you know i i to purchase i believe it was cleats and maybe some other equipment and uh that was a you know i i to purchase i believe it was cleats and maybe some other equipment and uh that was a you know i i to purchase i believe it was cleats and maybe some other equipment and uh that was a you know i i to purchase i believe it was cleats and maybe some other equipment and uh that was a you know i i knew that was in the in the making and that that's really that's really wonderful to to share and you knew that was in the in the making and that that's really that's really wonderful to to share and you knew that was in the in the making and that that's really that's really wonderful to to share and you knew that was in the in the making and that that's really that's really wonderful to to share and you knew that was in the in the making and that that's really that's really wonderful to to share and you know to spread it a lot of times it goes we hear about goes to the baseball and this time it went to know to spread it a lot of times it goes we hear about goes to the baseball and this time it went to know to spread it a lot of times it goes we hear about goes to the baseball and this time it went to know to spread it a lot of times it goes we hear about goes to the baseball and this time it went to know to spread it a lot of times it goes we hear about goes to the baseball and this time it went to specifically the girls softball and it's nice to see them get their uh their recognition also uh specifically the girls softball and it's nice to see them get their uh their recognition also uh specifically the girls softball and it's nice to see them get their uh their recognition also uh specifically the girls softball and it's nice to see them get their uh their recognition also uh specifically the girls softball and it's nice to see them get their uh their recognition also uh
yeah i just i think it's uh kudos to the blue jays they do a lot for the community and it was funny yeah i just i think it's uh kudos to the blue jays they do a lot for the community and it was funny yeah i just i think it's uh kudos to the blue jays they do a lot for the community and it was funny yeah i just i think it's uh kudos to the blue jays they do a lot for the community and it was funny yeah i just i think it's uh kudos to the blue jays they do a lot for the community and it was funny there was something on facebook i won't say exactly what it was but it wasn't very nice um there was something on facebook i won't say exactly what it was but it wasn't very nice um there was something on facebook i won't say exactly what it was but it wasn't very nice um there was something on facebook i won't say exactly what it was but it wasn't very nice um there was something on facebook i won't say exactly what it was but it wasn't very nice um about a couple of the blue jay banners still up because obviously they were thinking oh rays are about a couple of the blue jay banners still up because obviously they were thinking oh rays are about a couple of the blue jay banners still up because obviously they were thinking oh rays are about a couple of the blue jay banners still up because obviously they were thinking oh rays are about a couple of the blue jay banners still up because obviously they were thinking oh rays are our local local baseball and i'm so happy to say that there was about 200 comments that followed that our local local baseball and i'm so happy to say that there was about 200 comments that followed that our local local baseball and i'm so happy to say that there was about 200 comments that followed that our local local baseball and i'm so happy to say that there was about 200 comments that followed that our local local baseball and i'm so happy to say that there was about 200 comments that followed that post and they ate that guy's lunch for posting it because about how important the blue jays are to post and they ate that guy's lunch for posting it because about how important the blue jays are to post and they ate that guy's lunch for posting it because about how important the blue jays are to post and they ate that guy's lunch for posting it because about how important the blue jays are to post and they ate that guy's lunch for posting it because about how important the blue jays are to the city of dunedin and what's wrong with you right why would you post somebody even wanted the city of dunedin and what's wrong with you right why would you post somebody even wanted the city of dunedin and what's wrong with you right why would you post somebody even wanted the city of dunedin and what's wrong with you right why would you post somebody even wanted the city of dunedin and what's wrong with you right why would you post somebody even wanted remember somebody asked us if they could take them off the poles yeah exactly exactly they love remember somebody asked us if they could take them off the poles yeah exactly exactly they love remember somebody asked us if they could take them off the poles yeah exactly exactly they love remember somebody asked us if they could take them off the poles yeah exactly exactly they love remember somebody asked us if they could take them off the poles yeah exactly exactly they love them um anyway i just a couple things i was kind of excited today because my nephew just made a deal them um anyway i just a couple things i was kind of excited today because my nephew just made a deal them um anyway i just a couple things i was kind of excited today because my nephew just made a deal them um anyway i just a couple things i was kind of excited today because my nephew just made a deal them um anyway i just a couple things i was kind of excited today because my nephew just made a deal with the fenway to bring his 18 team members with his business here um they were going to go to st with the fenway to bring his 18 team members with his business here um they were going to go to st with the fenway to bring his 18 team members with his business here um they were going to go to st with the fenway to bring his 18 team members with his business here um they were going to go to st with the fenway to bring his 18 team members with his business here um they were going to go to st pete but somehow they ended up at the fenway and and they're gonna be at one of our local restaurants pete but somehow they ended up at the fenway and and they're gonna be at one of our local restaurants pete but somehow they ended up at the fenway and and they're gonna be at one of our local restaurants pete but somehow they ended up at the fenway and and they're gonna be at one of our local restaurants pete but somehow they ended up at the fenway and and they're gonna be at one of our local restaurants when they're here too so um so i was excited he loves dunedin everybody that comes here loves when they're here too so um so i was excited he loves dunedin everybody that comes here loves when they're here too so um so i was excited he loves dunedin everybody that comes here loves when they're here too so um so i was excited he loves dunedin everybody that comes here loves when they're here too so um so i was excited he loves dunedin everybody that comes here loves in eden but it's kind of cool um yeah jennifer i was just going to comment that um um i went with um in eden but it's kind of cool um yeah jennifer i was just going to comment that um um i went with um in eden but it's kind of cool um yeah jennifer i was just going to comment that um um i went with um in eden but it's kind of cool um yeah jennifer i was just going to comment that um um i went with um in eden but it's kind of cool um yeah jennifer i was just going to comment that um um i went with um bob iron smith to meet with um bill i can never say maz mazis is that close enough and he was super bob iron smith to meet with um bill i can never say maz mazis is that close enough and he was super bob iron smith to meet with um bill i can never say maz mazis is that close enough and he was super bob iron smith to meet with um bill i can never say maz mazis is that close enough and he was super bob iron smith to meet with um bill i can never say maz mazis is that close enough and he was super nice him and his wife they i mean they've got a lot of creative thinking going into that uh main street nice him and his wife they i mean they've got a lot of creative thinking going into that uh main street nice him and his wife they i mean they've got a lot of creative thinking going into that uh main street nice him and his wife they i mean they've got a lot of creative thinking going into that uh main street nice him and his wife they i mean they've got a lot of creative thinking going into that uh main street exchange including what they're going to name it and and just what's going to be in it and it was exchange including what they're going to name it and and just what's going to be in it and it was exchange including what they're going to name it and and just what's going to be in it and it was exchange including what they're going to name it and and just what's going to be in it and it was exchange including what they're going to name it and and just what's going to be in it and it was actually the main street exchange isn't the name uh i'm not saying anything um so that may be the actually the main street exchange isn't the name uh i'm not saying anything um so that may be the actually the main street exchange isn't the name uh i'm not saying anything um so that may be the actually the main street exchange isn't the name uh i'm not saying anything um so that may be the actually the main street exchange isn't the name uh i'm not saying anything um so that may be the bigger name but anyway so uh but it's got they've got some interesting creativity and and let me tell bigger name but anyway so uh but it's got they've got some interesting creativity and and let me tell bigger name but anyway so uh but it's got they've got some interesting creativity and and let me tell bigger name but anyway so uh but it's got they've got some interesting creativity and and let me tell bigger name but anyway so uh but it's got they've got some interesting creativity and and let me tell you they it's it's all with the heart of dunedin like the things that you'll you know we all care you they it's it's all with the heart of dunedin like the things that you'll you know we all care you they it's it's all with the heart of dunedin like the things that you'll you know we all care you they it's it's all with the heart of dunedin like the things that you'll you know we all care you they it's it's all with the heart of dunedin like the things that you'll you know we all care about so it's uh pretty cool the one thing he did do though was he did a big build out of the traffic about so it's uh pretty cool the one thing he did do though was he did a big build out of the traffic about so it's uh pretty cool the one thing he did do though was he did a big build out of the traffic about so it's uh pretty cool the one thing he did do though was he did a big build out of the traffic about so it's uh pretty cool the one thing he did do though was he did a big build out of the traffic control device the newer one that could potentially go in that on that corner and it it was insane i control device the newer one that could potentially go in that on that corner and it it was insane i control device the newer one that could potentially go in that on that corner and it it was insane i control device the newer one that could potentially go in that on that corner and it it was insane i control device the newer one that could potentially go in that on that corner and it it was insane i took a picture so um jorge um we need creative minds here because you know computers are getting smaller took a picture so um jorge um we need creative minds here because you know computers are getting smaller took a picture so um jorge um we need creative minds here because you know computers are getting smaller took a picture so um jorge um we need creative minds here because you know computers are getting smaller took a picture so um jorge um we need creative minds here because you know computers are getting smaller and traffic signals that are smart get bigger um yeah i mean it just uh we've got to work on and traffic signals that are smart get bigger um yeah i mean it just uh we've got to work on and traffic signals that are smart get bigger um yeah i mean it just uh we've got to work on and traffic signals that are smart get bigger um yeah i mean it just uh we've got to work on and traffic signals that are smart get bigger um yeah i mean it just uh we've got to work on some stuff with the county because that just isn't going to work there um it's a whole different some stuff with the county because that just isn't going to work there um it's a whole different some stuff with the county because that just isn't going to work there um it's a whole different some stuff with the county because that just isn't going to work there um it's a whole different some stuff with the county because that just isn't going to work there um it's a whole different intersection the one so i'm just saying you know yeah so um and i'll help i'll help i know some intersection the one so i'm just saying you know yeah so um and i'll help i'll help i know some intersection the one so i'm just saying you know yeah so um and i'll help i'll help i know some intersection the one so i'm just saying you know yeah so um and i'll help i'll help i know some intersection the one so i'm just saying you know yeah so um and i'll help i'll help i know some people i know some people i know a guy um yeah i know some people anyway and just just remember people i know some people i know a guy um yeah i know some people anyway and just just remember people i know some people i know a guy um yeah i know some people anyway and just just remember people i know some people i know a guy um yeah i know some people anyway and just just remember people i know some people i know a guy um yeah i know some people anyway and just just remember friday night um of course happy easter because this weekend's that easter but next friday night friday night um of course happy easter because this weekend's that easter but next friday night friday night um of course happy easter because this weekend's that easter but next friday night friday night um of course happy easter because this weekend's that easter but next friday night friday night um of course happy easter because this weekend's that easter but next friday night i won't be there because i will literally be officiating a wedding and be at a reception i won't be there because i will literally be officiating a wedding and be at a reception i won't be there because i will literally be officiating a wedding and be at a reception i won't be there because i will literally be officiating a wedding and be at a reception i won't be there because i will literally be officiating a wedding and be at a reception for the the golf cart thing and down main street for the night before the highland games but i will for the the golf cart thing and down main street for the night before the highland games but i will for the the golf cart thing and down main street for the night before the highland games but i will for the the golf cart thing and down main street for the night before the highland games but i will for the the golf cart thing and down main street for the night before the highland games but i will absolutely be there at the highland games so um that's it for me so city clerk update nothing new absolutely be there at the highland games so um that's it for me so city clerk update nothing new absolutely be there at the highland games so um that's it for me so city clerk update nothing new absolutely be there at the highland games so um that's it for me so city clerk update nothing new absolutely be there at the highland games so um that's it for me so city clerk update nothing new to report mayor okay city manager update just attach some grant applications for your information city to report mayor okay city manager update just attach some grant applications for your information city to report mayor okay city manager update just attach some grant applications for your information city to report mayor okay city manager update just attach some grant applications for your information city to report mayor okay city manager update just attach some grant applications for your information city attorney update nothing to report mayor okay so unless there's any you know anyone wants to argue attorney update nothing to report mayor okay so unless there's any you know anyone wants to argue attorney update nothing to report mayor okay so unless there's any you know anyone wants to argue attorney update nothing to report mayor okay so unless there's any you know anyone wants to argue attorney update nothing to report mayor okay so unless there's any you know anyone wants to argue shall we adjourn the meeting yes adjourned i wanted to wait 10 minutes shall we adjourn the meeting yes adjourned i wanted to wait 10 minutes shall we adjourn the meeting yes adjourned i wanted to wait 10 minutes shall we adjourn the meeting yes adjourned i wanted to wait 10 minutes shall we adjourn the meeting yes adjourned i wanted to wait 10 minutes
i can't see that on my body i can't see that on my body i can't see that on my body i can't see that on my body i can't see that on my body
have some fun i'm gonna run upstairs and get my briefcase have some fun i'm gonna run upstairs and get my briefcase have some fun i'm gonna run upstairs and get my briefcase have some fun i'm gonna run upstairs and get my briefcase have some fun i'm gonna run upstairs and get my briefcase
i'll see you later i'll see you later guys yep making sure they i'll see you later i'll see you later guys yep making sure they i'll see you later i'll see you later guys yep making sure they i'll see you later i'll see you later guys yep making sure they i'll see you later i'll see you later guys yep making sure they
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yeah but i could warm up these treadmills yeah but i could warm up these treadmills yeah but i could warm up these treadmills yeah but i could warm up these treadmills yeah but i could warm up these treadmills okay okay okay okay okay
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