Mayor Villa. Here. All right. At this time, we're going to go ahead and do the invocation and the pledge. Let's give them like five minutes so they can settle in. Can they pull down chairs or there's really enough chairs if people, okay. By any chance, this is John Dell with the Deltona High School Blue Brigade here. All right. We're going to go ahead and get started then. We're going to start with the invocation and the pledge. In this case, we're going to do the pledge first just because the gentleman that does the invocation is not here just yet. So please, if you can come up to the podium microphone, we're going to stand. I'll do the pledge of allegiance and then he'll lead into the Star Spangled Banner. If you can just push the button on the podium, please, and I'll turn on that microphone. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. This is your Deltona High School Blue Brigade right there. So thank you so much. Is Pastor Maldonado here now? No. Lauren, would you do us the honor of doing the invocation for us, please? Uncover. Let's pray. Father God, we come before you this evening. We ask your blessing upon this meeting. We ask that you would guide the thoughts and the words that are said tonight. We ask that we will work together as a commission and as a city that we might do the things that one, bring honor and glory to you and that are good and profitable for our city. We thank you for all that you do for us. We ask that you would watch over us, guide us, and direct us in all that we do. And Father, we ask that you would be with our military around the world and at home, be with our POWs and our MIAs, wherever they might be. And we ask that you would be with their families who continue to wait at home for those to return. Father, we ask all of this in the name of your only begotten Son, my Savior and my Lord, Jesus. Amen. Thank you, Mr. King. All right. At this time, we have additions and deletions. I have a commissioner Santiago. Yeah. I would like to add a discussion of removal of a P and Z board member. City Attorney, that's action items. Yes, sir. So in order to add that to agenda, we would just need a motion for the second. I just want to make sure I know where to put it depending on how the way. Yes, sir. Okay. Can you please do a quick roll call, City Clerk? Sorry. Is there a second? Second. So there's a motion by Commissioner Santiago, second by Commissioner Harriet. Commissioner Caldwell. Commissioner Harriet. For discussion on the agenda, yes. Commissioner Howington. For discussion only, yes. Commissioner Novick. Yes. Commissioner Santiago. Vice Mayor Villa-Vasquez. For discussion. And Mayor Villa. Yes. Okay. 6-1. Okay. Where is it going? It is going under action item 9A. Okay. Which does not exist, so it's being added. Yeah. All right. Presentations and rewards. We're going to start with the Superstar Students Awards for the first grade period of the school year. If the city commission can meet me on the floor, we'll get started with this. Ready? Carranza-Figueroa, third grade, Galtona Lakes Elementary. Tristan Navarro, fifth grade, Forest Lake Elementary. Adelina Nelson, third grade, Friendship Elementary. Jameer Frias-Diaz, fifth grade, Pride Elementary. Elena Jimenez-Torres, kindergarten, Sunrise Elementary. Caitlin Goncalves, fourth grade, Spirit Elementary. Brandon Vaughn, third grade, Timbercrest Elementary. Alexander Monselsi, seventh grade, Daltona Middle. Arizeri, sixth grade, Galaxy Middle. Jaden Pierre, just, eighth grade, Heritage Middle. Isabel Lugo, twelfth grade, Pine Ridge. Isabel. That's it, Mayor. All right. We're going to give the parents and the students just a couple of minutes as they head out. And while we're doing that, if I can please have Chief Stephen Cousins start making his way up, please. We'll just give him a couple more minutes for them to head out. All right. The city welcomes seven new fire personnel who are to be sworn in and pinned by Fire Chief Stephen Cousins and promoted for existing personnel. So, Fire Chief Cousins, please, you may proceed. Thank you. First of all, thank you, Mayor, Commission, Doc, for allowing this to occur in a public setting. This is probably one of the biggest milestones in somebody's career. First milestone is getting hired with your forever department. And the second is working through the ranks, right? Significant achievements come with each rank that you go up. Significant education, competition, ranking. These are some of the biggest milestones these folks will face in their career. So, we're extremely appreciative to be able to do this in a public setting in front of you and celebrate these milestones as an entire community. So, we'll start off with our new hires. First, I'd like to bring up Deputy Chief Dan Ruth. First, we're proud to welcome Deputy Chief Dan Ruth to our department. He comes to our department with over 33 years of service, including his last position at the rank of Division Chief. He also served as a lead instructor for Daytona State College Fire Program for many, many years. He's a registered nurse who also has earned his master's degree and executive fire officer, just to name a few of his accomplishments as we move forward. So, I want to start off with welcoming Chief Ruth. Next, I'd like to bring up Firefighter Ethan Gresham, Firefighter Kale Zinginger, Firefighter Nathan Cordier, Firefighter John Mulholland, Firefighter Nathan Galloway, and Firefighter Skylar Karn. Yeah, they're all lined up. So, the both firefighters that are lining up in front of you now have all chosen the Deltona Fire Department as they enter their fire service career. We're extremely proud that they've chosen us. Before ever making it to the department, each member spent almost a year of formal education focused on firefighting and emergency medical services. They spent their first six weeks in Deltona Fire Department, an orientation program that included city and department history, medical protocols, equipment operations, policies, procedures, strategies, and tactics. They also earned certification in fire service hydraulics, apparatus operation, and aerial apparatus operation. Please welcome all of our new firefighters. So, next, I'll move up, and we're going to swear in all of our new firefighters. All right, everybody hear me? We'll start off with, raise your right hand, please. I, state your name, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and the state of Florida against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. And I will faithfully and impartially discharge my duties as a firefighter of the city of Deltona Fire Department. Under the appointment of the department, according to the laws of the state of Florida and the ordinances of the city of Deltona, to the best of my skills and abilities, so help me God. Congratulations. So, at this time, we're going to do our traditional pinning the badges on everybody. So, we'd like to invite those folks that are close to them, so their crew members, their family, their spouses, their friends, their mentors, and all that to come up and join us in pinning our new hires. Everybody can come up that would like family, friends, mentors, come on up. Again, Mayor, Commission, we appreciate it. As kind of the first half of our new hires come to an end, they take a few pictures. We're going to move on to our recently promoted. So, these are some of our existing folks that have worked through the process, and you guys can sit down. We'll bring everybody up at the end for one picture with the entire commission. Thank you. But these are folks that have worked their way through the career, right, and these are significant milestones within it. So, I'd like to move on to the next piece real quick. I want to start off bringing up Deputy Chief Adam Clatterbuck. He was hired June 3, 2019. We're proud to announce the promotion of Adam Clatterbuck to Deputy Chief. Since joining us in 2019, Adam has been a big part of our department. He developed new policies, procedures, and reworked our quality assurance program to make sure patient care comes first. He has also assisted in moving our emergency medical services forward, including significant improvements to our transport program. We look forward to all the great things he will do in the future, and please join me in congratulating Chief Clatterbuck on his new promotion. Next, I'd like to bring up Lieutenant Alexander Griffith. He was hired December 2, 2016. We're proud to announce his promotion to lieutenant. Since joining us in 2016, he's become a paramedic. He's earned his Fire Officer 1, Fire Instructor 1, and Car Seat Technician certifications. Along with being an approved field training officer for our new paramedics, he's been a great mentor to our newest folks and a real asset to the department as a whole. So, we'd like to congratulate him as well. Next, I'd like to bring up Engineer Joseph Flores. We're proud to announce the promotion of Engineer Flores. Since joining us in 2018, he has become a paramedic and earned his Fire Officer 1, Fire Instructor 1, Car Seat Tech certification as well. So, along with being an approved field training officer, again, for our newest paramedics, he's been a solid leader and a big help training others within the organization. Again, we would like to congratulate him as well. I don't think she was able to make it tonight, but I at least would like to acknowledge Engineer Brittany Lapicola Hawkins. I always miss that first part up. Her hire date was March 20, 2020. We're proud to announce her promotion as well. Since joining us in 2020, she has become a paramedic, again, an approved field training officer, and she's done a great job helping on our EMS Advisory Committee as well as taking new firefighters under her wing. So, even though she's not here tonight, correct, if you're here to come in yet, we'd like to acknowledge her as well. So, in the same fashion, we'd like the three of you to bring up whoever you'd like, friends, mentors, spouse, family. Everybody's welcome to come up and pin you guys. All right. Thank you for taking the time. I know it's a lot. It's a lot to celebrate within our organization, a lot to celebrate within the city. So, to wrap it up, if the commission wouldn't mind, if you'd come down, we'd like to take a group picture with our newly promoted and bring up our new hires as well. Thank you. Again, thank you again for allowing us to come in. Thank you for your time. Thank you so much, brother. Thank you. Thank you. Congrats. I'm sorry. All right. At this time, I'm going to ask – commission, stay here. We're staying down. I'm going to ask U.S. Coast Guard retired telephone technician chief Thomas A. Snyder to please come to the front. So, Thomas Snyder served from August 13, 1973 through August 31, 1993. He was a telephone technician chief. He did data systems, telecom systems, public address systems, and cabling, including fiber optic. Duty stations were Coast Guard, Lawrence Station, Port Clarence, Alaska, Atlantic City, New Jersey, radio station Miami, Florida, Group Rockaway, New York, Base San Francisco, Training Center, New York as an instructor. Electronic shop. I'm going to mess this one up. Manusquan, New Jersey, Florida guy. What can I tell you? Base, New Orleans. And we want to thank you so much for your service and the time you have given this country. Thank you so much. And I hope the certificate honors you as much as we want to honor you. Okay. This time we have a presentation from Volusia County Elected Officials Roundtable for Stormwater, and I would invite Stormwater Mitigation and Flooding Subcommittee, Mayor Nancy Miller from Daytona Beach Shores, or maybe soon to be the Shores. Good evening, Mayor, Commissioners, staff, and residents. I'm Nancy Miller. I'm the co-chair of the Volusia County Elected Officials Stormwater Mitigation and Flooding Subcommittee, and I'm also the current mayor of Daytona Beach Shores. Thank you for allowing me this evening a few minutes to speak. I want to give you a little bit of background of where this subcommittee came from. When it comes to flooding in Volusia County, the problem goes back. I'll give you a little background on where this came from. So your mayor, Avila, is the co-chair of the Roundtable of Elected Officials. Out of that roundtable, we have several committees that have come along. This has been the most influential, the longest running. So we understood after Milton that we had a need to work on flooding. So that's how that commission came about. It is a collaborative, county-wide initiative to address flooding that includes the county and all of our municipalities. So, again, we understood that there were 16 different cities and municipalities doing 16 different things, and we got everyone to come together in one room. Your mayor played a very integral part on that, and your city manager, bringing across the ideas and the best practices and lessons learned. And that's what it was about. We actually sat around and asked everyone for their ideas, what were the best practices that they used. So I want to take this opportunity to highlight some of the projects we've been working on right here in Deltona. There's many times I hear people say nothing is being done about the flooding, and that is not true. There is a lot being done. Is it enough? Absolutely not. We've secured, I'll tell you how much funds we've gotten, but we still need a lot more funding for us to say we're not going to have any more flooding. So here in Deltona, the El Cam Boulevard at Lake Helen Osteen Road project is designed to address severe roadway flooding right at that intersection. While the Lake Sweetgum Stormwater Dropdown Project will allow the city to proactively lower water levels in Sweetgum and Basswood Lakes ahead of major storms. So we're trying to be more proactive in our approach. It's going to reduce the need to rely on temporary pumping during severe weather. We're also conducting flood studies within the Gleason, McGarrity, and Providence basins to better understand draining conditions and flood risk and evaluate potential mitigation alternatives. Together, these projects and studies are addressing the known flooding concerns while also helping to identify and prioritize long-term solutions that can improve drainage, public safety, and resiliency throughout all of Deltona. Throughout the Transform 386 project. So 386 is money that was obtained from HUD and that our county commissioners accepted. They approved that money. Altogether, right now, we have gotten over $400 million through Transform 386. Sounds like an awful lot of money. It's not near enough. But I'm happy to say that every one of the 16 cities in Volusia County received some funding for their particular projects. And then there were some homes that received this, too. Either they were unfortunately torn down or these were for lifting up some of the homes. So that's where some of the money went. But right here in Deltona, you received $2 million. And that's been allocated towards efforts in addition to funding provided through other sources. So these projects represent the careful planning and engineering work that's helping identify long-term solutions to flooding challenges throughout all communities. These are just a sample of some of the 28 infrastructure projects and 28 basin studies that are currently underway across our county. I also want to take this opportunity to highlight an exciting new resource that was launched in July through the collaborative efforts of Volusia County, our subcommittee, and all 16 municipalities. Mayor Vila was very instrumental in this. What we wanted to do was to make sure transparency that our residents knew what was happening. So this is an interactive GIS tool that I'll give you the website. You can go to it, and you can hover right over your particular address. You will know of any maintenance projects that have been completed or slated to complete, any major products. So you'll be able to see what is exactly happening in this area. And this new stormwater resilience dashboard gives residents a single place to explore the work taking place across our region that we're trying to reduce flood risk, improve drainage, and strengthen our stormwater infrastructure. Whether it's a capital improvement project, a watershed study, or the routine maintenance that helps keep our drainage systems functioning properly, this dashboard is going to give you a new level of transparency into the work happening throughout Volusia County. So I do encourage everyone to explore the dashboard, which can be found at volusia.gov, and you go to the stormwater section of volusia.gov. From the very beginning, the first day, and we have been working on, it's hard to believe, Mayor, we've been working on this almost two years, and January was when we had our first meeting. But from the first beginning, our subcommittee has recognized that flooding does not stop at city limits, and neither should our efforts to address it. The dashboards, the studies, and ultimately, these projects that are coming through are examples of what can be accomplished when our local government work together towards a common goal. I also want to state, too, it was just not our municipalities. We had St. John's there. We had DOT, American Flood Association. So we all came together with all the knowledge that we had to try to work on these. By working together, sharing information, and coordinating our planning, we're helping build a stronger and more resilient Volusia County. To give you a better look at how that partnership is making a difference, I'd like to close by sharing a very short video. It's going to highlight the subcommittee's work and the collaborative approach we're taking to strengthen stormwater resiliency through Volusia County. And I think we're ready for that now. Elected officials' roundtable flooding. When it comes to flooding in Volusia County, the problem goes beyond a single jurisdiction, and the challenge isn't just water. It's coordination. Stormwater systems cross city boundaries, funding programs overlap, and decisions made in one place often affect communities downstream. That's why Volusia County and all 16 of our cities participate in the elected officials' roundtable flooding subcommittee. This group exists to ensure elected officials and key staff are talking to each other, sharing information, and making informed decisions with regional perspective, not in isolation. It's all about aligning priorities, understanding constraints, and recognizing how individual actions fit into a larger system. The subcommittee focuses on shared standards, coordinated planning, and consistent approaches to stormwater management. Members review funding hotspots, discuss regulatory framework, coordinate stormwater studies, and identify opportunities to pursue grants together. That collaboration helps avoid duplication, improves competition for funding, and ensures resources are used where they can have the greatest impact. That collaboration and coordinated approach is already producing results. Through the federally funded Transform 386 initiative, global governments across Volusia County have secured funding for more than 25 stormwater infrastructure and mitigation projects, as well as 30 stormwater studies, totaling over $110 million. These investments reflect shared planning, data-driven decision-making, and regional cooperation. While long-term planning is essential, day-to-day operations still matter, and the Flooding Subcommittee also focuses on maintenance. We work with our cities and Volusia County to continually maintain stormwater infrastructure, clearing drains, managing ponds, and improving the flow, all to reduce flooding impacts whenever possible. This work is transparent, happens in the open, and is making a difference. Subcommittee meetings are open to the public, and updates are shared through news releases, social media, a dedicated web page, and the Flood and Stormwater Mitigation Newsletter. On behalf of Mayor Miller, I would like to thank the leadership and elected officials from each city for supporting and participating in the subcommittee. No single local government can solve flooding alone. But when we work together, share responsibility, and stay engaged, we're all better positioned to manage risk, build long-term resilience, and serve the collective community. Thank you, Mayor, for your work on that committee, and we will be continuing that. Thank you for having me this evening. Thank you, Mayor Miller. Does anybody have any questions for Mayor Miller before we move on? No? All right. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Mayor Miller, for coming. All right. Any Teletonic community events? No? All right. This time, we're going to move to the consent agenda item. Commissioner Santiago? Thank you, Mayor. I move to approve consent agenda items A through I. Vice Mayor Avila Vasquez? Yes. I'd like to pull C, G, and H, please. There's a motion. Do we pull them anyways? There is a motion and a second to approve all. At this point, you would need to retract. To retract. All right. Do you want to amend it? All right. I need everyone to calm down. I'm the one that's running the meeting, please. Go ahead. Can you please retract your second? And then, Commissioner Santiago, go back on the dial. Go ahead. I move to approve consent agenda A through I, pulling C, G, and H. Please click on the button. I will get to you, Commissioner Caldwell. These are not new rules. I don't know why everybody's trying to talk out of line. Commissioner Santiago, you pulled C, G? No, I pulled it. Okay, C, G, and H. Correct. All right. Commissioner Howington, please. I'd like to pull aye. Okay. I'll get there. Commissioner Caldwell. I was going to pull aye also. Commissioner Santiago, at this point, do you want to do now your, go ahead. Did you want to do your motion now with the removed items? Vice Mayor Avila? Yes, ma'am. Sorry, I have to make a correction. I did get an answer for H, so I'm going to, I'm just going to pull C and G. Got it. Okay. I'll get to you in just one minute, Commissioner Santiago. I got it. All right. So the ones that are not pulled, so you have, it's B as in boy, D as in David, E as in Edward, F as in Frank, and that's it. So if you'd like to make a motion for B, D, E, and F. Yes. A. A was pulled. No, it wasn't. A was pulled. No? Okay. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to approve consent agenda items A, B, D, E, and F. Commissioner Harriet? We have a motion by Commissioner Santiago, second by Commissioner Harriet. Is there any public comment for the items that were approved? Kathy, Kathy Bryan, please. Okay. Good evening, Kathy Bryan. Thank you for resetting. G, Dairy Queen. Back when, when they first presented Catalina Point and the cottages for rent and the nice restaurant up front, and we ended up with a Dairy Queen, I think they can eat. I don't think we need to share in the responsibility. I think that can be all beyond the developer. They didn't keep their word about what they were doing there. Why should we help? Sorry, Dairy Queen is just another junk food restaurant. I, I was not in the agenda. I mean, it was there, but the document was not there. My understanding is you guys got it Friday. I don't think you guys ought to be voting on it with that much time and without the public having had a chance to look through it. So I think you should wait on that. I know you guys are running out of time. That's not my fault. So follow, follow, follow the rules for getting information out. Give some consideration. Thank you. Thank you. Help me, Brian, please. I just want y'all pulled everything I asked for, but I'll go ahead and speak. But I'd also like to be able to speak during the time that y'all have for each one, too. Mr. Bryan, we're doing everything together. We've always done it that way. Okay. On C, because it's a commercial property and a fine is at $54,000, I would like to know how we got down to $8,000 and why it got up so high to $54,000. Before we decide that we need to take and lower that, let's see whose fault that actually is. Is that the investment company that didn't do their duty, or is that because we didn't do our due diligence and contact them? On G, you have a fair share agreement with the county, where they have a fair share agreement with the county and the city. The county, it states that they get paid within 30 days within construction time. I would like to see that timetable with the city as well, not just whenever. Due to the CBA not being into the agenda tonight, I think we need to take and put a delay in it for 30 days. Because if the residents can't read what's in it, we can't advise you, our representatives, on what we think should or shouldn't be in it or should or shouldn't be voted on. I think you need to take a pause for 30 days. Because if it's not in the agenda where I can read it prior to this meeting, I can't make a judgment to advise my representative on how to represent me. Transparency goes a long way for credibility. If there's no transparency, there's no credibility in this at all, none whatsoever. I've talked to the Red Union representative. I understand this was a very hard-fought CBA, and I think that's a good thing. He said that neither side was happy completely, and that normally says that it's a good collective bargaining agreement. But if I can't read it, I can't talk to y'all on how to actually vote the way I personally see it. Y'all represent me as a whole. We put y'all up there. If y'all aren't willing to be transparent about something this big, I only get one shot. Mr. Bowles, are you representing the client? Yes. Okay, just come back up when we call that specific item. All right. That's it, Mayor. All right, at this time, we're going to go ahead and take a vote on the items that we had a motion and a seconded on, which was A as in Alpha, B as in Boyd, D as in David, E as in Edward, F as in Frank. Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Harriot? Yes. Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? Yes. Commissioner Santiago? Vice Mayor Villavasquez? Yes. Mayor Villavasquez? Yes. 7-0. All right, motion passes 7-0. All right, we're going to bring up first C, request for approval reduction in fines request by the respondent. Mr. Bowles, at this time, you could come up, and if the resident wants to come up. Vice Mayor Villavasquez, did you want to? I saw your name. Okay. That's fine. Good evening, Jason Bowles, property manager for 271 Fort Smith Boulevard. I do have the tenants and the owners here for any questions that I might not be able to answer. I want to first thank the commission for allowing this foreclosure involving this property to go back to a special magistrate. Under normal circumstances, there would be no appeal from that decision, and I want to make it clear that we're not challenging the decision by the magistrate. In fact, I believe the magistrate decision was fair based on the information presented during the hearing. However, there's a significant part of that decision that was based on information that was not available to the magistrate at the time. Specifically, I have documents showing the lease agreement between the owner and the tenants, management agreements, and along with a management agreement that establishes my authority involvement in the property. I have these documents at the time of the hearing, but I was not aware it was going to be a Zoom hearing, so I didn't provide those, and it was never really even asked for. Again, we're not appealing the magistrate decision. Instead, we're appealing to the commission to correct a problem that has caused substantial financial harm to multiple parties. The property has been tied up for approximately five months. During this time, new tenants took possession and began pursuing financing through an SBA loan. Their lender would not proceed while an active foreclosure was active, remained on file. As a result, the owners were now required to maintain the property without collecting rent and revenue. The practical effect is the business prepared to invest significant private capital into our community was delayed for months. The tenants have suffered substantial losses due to the delay, and I know that they can provide a business plan showing projections for revenue each and every month that they plan to open. It's around $30,000 to $40,000 a month for five months. Mr. Bowles, I don't mean to interrupt you. What is your request? What are you asking for? We can skip to the end. My request, I would like a commissioner to make a motion to reduce all fines associated with the foreclosure matter to zero. Direct the foreclosure action to be dismissed no later than October 28th. Ensure all documents related to the dismissal is provided to all affected parties no later than October 29th, 2026. I didn't get to finish my public address. It has to do with investing in this community. This is real. This is a black eye to this city. You will not get businesses in here with this behavior. You guys voted on something with omitted information. This crap has to stop. It happened twice. And the whole thing about the foreclosure, that was not needed. Normally, we would pay the fine and be out the door. They have suffered substantially. And the reason for fines are to gain compliance. You have compliant owners. I promise you that. They have done everything they possibly could to get into compliance and do what's right. The only real person that really is suffering is these tenants. And you have a proclamation for small businesses. Do the right thing. Take all factors out. Do the right thing for them. I'm not affected on this. Thank you, Mr. Vols. Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez. Danny, can you just... Good evening, Mayor and Community Commission. Danny, can you just give us a refresher of how it came up to $54,000 and for how long it lasted? Ma'am, the case started back in 2019. We took it to the special management January 22nd of 2020. It did take 978 days to come to compliance, which accumulated the fine. We did have to correct the update, the actual total fine, because I think on the paper, we could have $54,000 and change. It was actually $49,400. But it was in violation for a pretty long time, and that's why it occurred so much on the fine. Thank you, Danny. Anybody else have any questions? Did you want to go ahead and make a motion before I go to anybody else? Yes, Mayor. I'd like to make a motion to approve item C on the consent agenda. Okay. Is there a second? Commissioner Howington, did you want to do a second or do you want to speak? Okay. I'll do the second so we can continue to move on. Okay. So there's a motion by – Who's doing the second? Who's doing the second? Caldwell, you did the second. Okay. So for the record, Vice Mayor Avila Vasquez did the motion, and it was seconded by Commissioner Caldwell. Commissioner Howington, you're next. Thank you. Thank you. If I remember correctly, was there an issue with the tenant receiving notifications versus the owner receiving notifications? Because I understand this has been going on for a long time, and obviously the city has incurred costs. I just want to make sure that we understand what took place. Yes, ma'am. First, for the statute 162, which we follow, notices sent to the property listed on the Volusia County property appraisal record. I have copies of all the notices that were sent certified mail. The majority of them were not unclaimed, or if they were claimed, they were signed for. But I do have the copies of those available if you need them. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner Howington? I'd like to know if either the business owner or the owners would like to speak. Good evening. My name is Mohamed Mullah, the owner of the property 271 for Smith Boulevard. This fine, way back in 2019, after that, that tenant is gone. He handed to me the key and gone, and he didn't tell me the fact, that fine. Since then, we did not wear this fine, and we didn't receive any letter or notice, that kind of violation. After that tenant is gone, we had two more tenants we rent out, and the city gave you all kinds of permission to do the business. After that, still we didn't know that violation exists on the file. Just my current tenant, and try to get the permit, all this stuff, get together, we just discovered that kind of violation, the fine is $54,000. We are just astonished. We are surprised this happened to me. If I know as a landlord, ongoing, I'm going to take a right of the action, we didn't know until we appealed this fine. This is the fact. So we are in that situation. We financially and emotionally all can ruin our life, this situation. So we appeal. Please consider the situation. We are in hope, both the landlord and the new tenant. Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez. Danny. My folder, just in case I need it. Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Where were the notifications sent to, whether the tenant or the landlord? According to proper appraises, it's listed at the address of the location, which is 271 Fort Smith. So it went to the tenant? It went to the tenant, correct. On two different locations, it was signed for, and the two other notices were in claim. So I have four different notifications that I have in the folder that we've sent notice to the property owner. To this address? To this address, correct. That's what's on property appraises. So the address of the owner was not on the property appraises information? It's on there, but it's listed as the same address at the location of 271 Fort Smith. And how long did this go on? This is 2020. And the filing came into compliance in 23. So it's three years? Three years, yes, ma'am. Okay. So in three years, the owner never followed up with the tenants? No. And actually, I was the one that received a phone call, I believe it was one of the property owners, that, hey, there's a fine. I'm in compliance. And it was in March of 2023, I actually sent an officer to the location to confirm compliance, which they did. That's when we stopped the fine. Okay. I mean, I think that the magistrate did an awesome job reducing the fine to this amount. There's people who own homes that have never gotten this chance to get a fine reduced this much from the magistrate. I think, unfortunately, I understand, you know, the tenant's situation. But I think the magistrate is being fair with the amount that it's being put on this notice. So I'm okay with my motion. Thank you, Vice Mayor Villavasquez. There's nobody up on the dial, so if we can please do a verbal vote. Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Harriot? Yes. Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? Yes. Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Villavasquez? Mayor Villavasquez? Yes. 7-0. All right, motion passes for the reduction of fines to 8,500, 7-0. All right, at this time we're going to G, request for approval of the proportionate fair share agreement for Dairy Queen, Daltona, located at 2953 Holland Boulevard. Do pull up. Go ahead. Thank you, Mayor. So I have to say that my questions were the same questions as one of the residents that came up. If we're, I mean, I know this is for the county, but this business is in the city, so why are we pushing to pay the county but not the city? You know, there is money that's due to the city for $37,000. I'm just, I don't know if this is a legal question, but I would like to get paid, too. Yes, Vice Mayor, I'll be happy to explain, in general, proportionate fair share and this agreement, and if there's any factual questions, I'll defer to Ms. Entwistle. So a development is entitled to pay the portion of impact that it has on an existing infrastructure with deficiencies. So in this case, the infrastructure is Howland Boulevard, which is a county-maintained roadway. The only reason that the city is a party to this agreement is because it is within the city of Deltona, but the city does not have impacted infrastructure that requires proportionate fair share. The city does have impacts for which the city charges impact fees, and those impact fees are referenced in this agreement that there is an outstanding balance due that must be paid by the applicant as well. But essentially, the infrastructure being impacted that is subject to the proportionate fair share is county infrastructure, so the city is not entitled to additional payment above the impact fees. So the impact fee is $37,544. When does that get paid? When they get their permit? So impact fees are generally paid at the time of building permit. Is my understanding that this, that there may already be permits issued, and these would have to be paid before the issuance of a certificate of occupancy. Okay, so the payments will be made more or less at the same time. All right, thank you. All right, this time I'll entertain a motion. Make a motion to approve item G. Commissioner Howington. Do you consent agenda? Second. Motion by Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez. There is a second by Commissioner Howington. Please do a verbal vote. Commissioner Caldwell. Commissioner Harriot. Yes. Commissioner Howington. Yes. Commissioner Novick. Yes. Commissioner Santiago. Yes. Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez. Yes. Mayor Avila. Yes. 7-0. Next, we have H, request for approval of award for employee benefits. Oh, you canceled that one. Mr. Mayor, it was not approved with a consent agenda, so we would still have to take a vote. Yeah, that's what I thought. I didn't see it in the consent agenda. So, at this time, we'll entertain a motion for H. It was not approved. What was approved, I wrote down, was A-B-D-E-F. Commissioner Howington. I move to authorize the city manager to bind the health insurance carriers as presented by Gearing Group. I just made the motion. Okay. Is there a second? Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez? Second. We have a motion by Commissioner Howington, second by Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez. Can we please vote? Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Harriot? Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? I'm sorry. Yes. Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez? Yes. Mayor Avila? Yes. 7-0. All right. Now we move on. I request to approve, request for approval resolution number 2026-102 representing the October 1st, 2026 through September 30th, CBA collective bargaining. Commissioner Caldwell? I would like to make a motion to table this item. There's a motion by Commissioner Caldwell. Commissioner, is there a second? Commissioner Howington? I'll second, but can we get a date certain for what you would like to table it for? So would that be within a- Point of order. I assume a special date. Point of order. We have 10 days, right? Which is November, November 2nd. So if we're going to table it, it'll be a special commission meeting for November 2nd. I personally, this is just me, I'm one person up here. They spent over 1,000 man hours negotiating this, okay? Both parties are not happy with it. I get all that. Does this fall within the budget that we voted for? City manager, deputy city manager, does somebody want to answer that question with the microphone so I can hear it? Does this fall within the budget? It does, correct. Yes, Mayor. Thank you. What was the amount of the union vote that voted for it? Just out of curiosity. 48 to 4? 48 to 5? Hold on. Click on the thing. Say it again. No, you turned it off. Hold on. There. I'm not that old. 48 to 9. 48 to 9. All right. We're going to go through the motion. We're going to go ahead and vote. But if we're going to do this, it'll be either November 2nd or we voted on it today. It falls within the budget. I don't understand why we're doing this. But Commissioner Novick, you're up first. You want to say something. You turned off your microphone. You'll come right back. Mayor, I'd like to have legal read a ethics committee interpretation into the record before we go any further, please. Yes, Commissioner. Commissioner, so at a previous commission meeting, we had requested the Commission on Ethics provide a formal opinion regarding Commissioner Novick's ability to vote on items related to union matters and pension matters, as he has a son that is currently a firefighter and he is a member of the pension plan, the analysis and opinion issued was that because his son and he are members of a class that their impact is not considered to be a special economic benefit under the ethics statute, that Commissioner Novick is permitted and required to vote on these matters. And if you'd like, Commissioner, we can provide a copy of that to the clerk to be entered into the record as well. Yes, I'd like it added into the record for the minutes, please. Thank you. All right. Commissioner Howington. So for the 10 days, can you clarify? Was that just to be brought forth to the commission or for us to actually vote on it? So there is 10 days that it has to be presented to the governing body for a decision. We have met that by bringing it to you all and a decision would be to table it to a date certain. So, yeah, it has been brought to the commission. We have met that 10 days. So we've met that obligation. So technically a motion could be made to table it until the first meeting in November? That is correct. Okay. Thank you. I'd like to know, would you like to amend your motion? First meeting of the month of November? All right. We're going to go ahead. And I'll second that. Gotcha. Can we please go for a vote? The motion is to table it to the first commission meeting of November. Thank you. Which is November 9th. Okay. Commissioner Caldwell? Yes. Commissioner Harriot? No. Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? No. Commissioner Santiago? No. Vice Mayor Villavasquez? Mayor Villa? No. Two-five. All right. This time, someone from the other, Commissioner Santiago? I just want to make a motion. Make a motion to approve. Hold on. Consent item, agenda aye. Resolution number 2026-102. There's a motion by Commissioner Santiago. Is there a second? Second. Second by Commissioner Harriot. Commissioner Caldwell? I want to be clear to your point. You know, they have over 1,000 man hours in this. We've had three days to review this. That's not enough time. We are given the final draft 50 minutes before the meeting started. Your point is taken, Commissioner Caldwell. Commissioner Howington. Thank you. I'm extremely concerned about the fact that this was not delivered to the public at the time that the agenda was sent out. I do believe that that is a concern that I have with the city. I don't believe that that fell on the fire department or the union. I think that we've done a disservice to our residents, and I feel that it is unfair to punish our firemen who are out there working diligently every day for our community. Our residents have not had the opportunity to speak on this, and that's a problem because we're up here to represent the people. But at the end of the day, we also need to make sure our firefighters are taken care of. And so with that, the fire department has my support on this, especially because they've also made it very clear that if Amendment 3 passes, they are willing to come back to the table. And that is a concern for me because if Amendment 3 passes, we're going to have to look at what we're doing across the board for all of Deltona. So I appreciate you making that agreement, and I understand that this was a very difficult, challenging bargaining agreement negotiation. I appreciate that, and I am not going to hold this against the fire department for the fact that our residents were not notified by the city in a timely fashion. before this meeting took place. Thank you. Vice Mayor Avila Vasquez. Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to, or I made my decision or my motion based on what the union voted for. I'm not a fireman. I have no idea what these guys go through, or I do have ideas. My family are, you know, a part of that in New York. And I can't think of anybody more qualified to approve or disapprove this contract. And as far as Amendment 3, it was very clear and made to us that if Amendment 3 passes, we can always go back to the negotiation table. Am I correct, legal? Yes, that's correct. If Amendment 3 passes and there's a significant change in the city's finances, which it's projected that there would be, the city could avail itself of a statutory process where it would declare a financial urgency and would end up back at the negotiating table. Correct. And so I don't think that the union would agree or sign off a contract that will not benefit their staff or, you know, their firemen. So I stand by my decision to vote in favor of our fire union's decision. Thank you. All right. I'm going to say one quick thing, and then we're going to go straight to a vote. And I get everybody's controversy on Amendment 3. There is wording in there that says that our first responders are going to be taken care of. There could be some missing information, whatever it is. We need to stop the whole, if this doesn't or this doesn't do it. So let's go to the vote. Everybody's going to get taken care of. We need to stop scaring people about Amendment 3. So go ahead, please. Let's go for a vote. Mr. Mayor, we do need public comment on this item. We did public comment when we did the consent agenda. Yes. We did it all together. We did it all at one time. Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Harriot? Yes. Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Villavasquez? Yes. Mayor Villavasquez? Yes. 6-1. All right. Motion passes 6-1. If I can please get the city attorney to read 8A. Yes, Mr. Mayor. This is, first, I would like to announce that this is a public hearing resolution number 2026-86, a resolution of the city of Deltona, Florida, vacating and abandoning certain platted alley rights of way, including a 25-foot wide and 15-foot wide alleyway situated within block 20, beauty spot, Orange City, according to the plot thereof, recorded in Map Book 6, page 199 of the public records of Volusia County, providing for conditions of approval, providing for recording in the public records, providing for conflicts, severability, scrivener's errors, and an effective date. And I'll also, at this time, swear in any witnesses who wish to provide testimony in this matter. So please be advised, the following item on the agenda is quasi-judicial in nature, and all testimony will be given under oath or affirmation. Please raise your right hand. Do you hereby swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth, so help you God? Thank you. All right. Good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. No, we're doing the swearing in. Did you do it? Did you finish it? Yes, Mr. Mayor. All right. Go ahead, Jessica. Good evening, Mayor and Commissioners. Tonight, I'm going to be presenting resolution number 2026-86, which requests the vacation of two platted alleyways adjacent to 468 Sullivan Street. I'll briefly go over the request, utility coordination, and staff's recommendation. And while you're doing that, can you also do the ex-parte communication, please? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So at this time, all members of the Commission must disclose any ex-parte communication related to this item. Mr. Commissioner Santiago, we're doing ex-parte communication. None? Commissioner Herriot? No. Commissioner Howington? No. Commissioner Colwell? No. Commissioner Knobbick? No, sir. Vice Mayor of Ila Vasquez? Non-Mayor. The only conversation I had was today with Jessica. That's about it. Please continue. All right. The applicant is requesting to vacate a platted 25-foot and 15-foot alleyway associated with the 1924 Beauty Spot Orange City Platt. The purpose is to allow the affected area to be consolidated with the adjoining property. This would help facilitate potential future single-family residential development. As part of the review, staff coordinated with utility providers, three utility non-objection letters have been received indicating that the providers do not object to the requested vacation. Any existing easements or other necessary right-of-ways will be maintained. The property is designated R1 under the city's zoning regulations with a low-density residential future land use designation. The requested vacation would support the potential consolidation of the property for residential use. Any future development would still need to comply with zoning, land development code, and permitting requirements. This slide shows the original platted recorded in 1924. The alleyways show on the platt that are areas involved in the current request. The vacation would address these platted areas so the applicant can combine the adjoining properties. Staff reviewed the request, including the property zoning and future land use designations, the original platt, and utility coordination. Based on the review, the request would facilitate property consolidation while allowing the development standards and utility requirements to remain in fact. And based on the review and information presented, staff recommends approval of the Resolution 2026-86 authorizing the requested vacation of the platted right-of-ways adjacent to 468 Sylvan Street. And I'm happy to answer any questions. All right. At this time, we're going to ask, is there any questions from the commissioners specifically to Jessica? Vice Mayor? Jessica, this is for one single-family home? Yes, it's for one single-family home. In this area, you have to have one acre to build one home. All right. Thank you. All right. Is the applicant or applicant's attorney here? Okay. If they want to come up, do you have a presentation or a rebuttal that you want? No? No. All right. Is there any questions from the commissioners to the applicants? None? All right. Public comment, please. With those withstanding, and then we'll do public comment afterwards for those without standing. And Albert Bryan, please, do you want to speak on this item? All right. Here we are, once again, giving away property. I brought this up when we gave away property up by the theater. We didn't get anything out of that. We could have gotten some property for that, for Rhode Island, and yet y'all chose to ignore it. We gave away property over by the hospital. Should have gotten something for it. Y'all chose to ignore it. If you vacate this, it's just lunacy. You don't ever give away property, period. Instead, y'all seem to give things away to everything but the citizens that actually need it. That vote y'all just had tells me everything I need to know about who to vote for. Please stick to the subject. This is a semi-quasi-judicial. Please stick to the subject. We have an issue here with trying to do things the right way that absolutely just seems to be lost on y'all. I'm really dumbfounded about this. Enough said. Thank you. Mayor, that was the only one. Is there any rebuttal from the landowners or the, sorry, from the petitioner? No? All right. At this time, I'll entertain a motion. Commissioner Novick? Make a motion to approve resolution number 2026-86. Commissioner Santiago? Second. City Attorney? I have nothing further at this time, Mr. Mayor. Mr. Quasi-judicial, you want to do the whole reading of it again before we vote? Certainly. I'll be happy to read the title in again before you vote. So this is a resolution of the City of Deltona, Florida, vacating and abandoning certain platted alley rights-of-way, consisting of 25-foot-wide and 15-foot-wide alleyways situated within Block 20, Beauty Spot, Orange City, according to the plot thereof, recorded in Map Book 6, page 199 of the public records of Volusia County, providing for conditions of approval, providing for recording in the public records, providing for conflicts, severability, scrivener's errors, and an effective date. Thank you, City Attorney. And can we please do a verbal vote? Commissioner Caldwell? Commissioner Harriot? Commissioner Caldwell, can you please use your microphone? I apologize. No. Commissioner Harriot? Yes. Commissioner Howington? Yes. Commissioner Novick? Yes. Commissioner Santiago? Yes. Vice Mayor Villa-Vasquez? I'm going to vote no on this, because I had a resident who also had the same request for land in the Twin Lakes area, and they had to pay for it. The city would not give it to them for free. So I'm going to vote no on this one. And Mayor Villa? Yes. 5-2. Motion passes 5-2. All right. At this time, we're going to go into action. Items A, 9A, sorry. Commissioner Santiago? Thank you, Mayor. This is a discussion of removal of a PNC board member. I want to start by saying that we have freedom of speech. We have the right to express our opinions, disagree with others, and post our thoughts on social media. But freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences. I had a concern recently that was raised regarding being disrespectful and inappropriate comments, reportedly made by Mr. Blodgett, a member of the Planning and Zoning Board, towards a female resident. Let me be clear. This is not about silencing anyone or taking away their freedom of speech. This is about respect, professionalism, and accountability. Serving on a city board is a privilege. And with that privilege comes responsibility. Our residents deserve representatives who demonstrate respect, integrity, and good judgment. Therefore, I move that we remove Mr. Blodgett from the Planning and Zoning Board. That's a motion. Is that your motion? Yes. All right. There's a motion by Commissioner Santiago for removal, or is there a second? Commissioner Novick? I'll second it. Is there any public comment? Matt Borkins, please? Sorry. Touching now. There we go. Thank you. Good evening. I oppose removing Tim from the Planning and Zoning without a fairly review of the full exchange. There's been an issue between both of them, not just one. The sexual comment followed earlier comments of the AI meme and targeting him from a resident. This does not excuse what was said, but it belongs in a fair review. Has this dispute affected his ability to serve? Has there been any prejudices of an application? Used his position to intimidate someone denying a fair hearing or a fair failure to perform his duties? This hasn't affected him on the board. He hasn't made any decisions on this. This is his personal takeout side. We've had commissioners laugh at the backpack issue. That was you, Emma. We've had allegations of sexual harassment from you, Novick, earlier, even though it was found unfair. We're not going to start attacking the commission up here, Mr. Borks, please. There's been issues from the commission that's been taken differently. This is examples of what's going on. So you're taking different actions against a resident who's volunteering. It's not making his decision any differently. But yet there's other people that are doing the same thing, and they're not taken the same way. So you have to judge everybody fairly. He hasn't been investigated. There hasn't been checked on the other party that was involved, and yet you're talking about removing him. And it hasn't affected any of his ability to serve. Just because you have a personal issue with it doesn't affect his ability to serve. There's not any ethical form that you've filled out to be on the form, on the committees. So to take this up because you have a personal issue, I think there's an issue. It's not affecting his ability to serve. It's because you have an issue with him. There's other things that come up that's never been brought up here. So investigate what's going on. Check it fairly. But there's nothing that says that he needs to be removed. You know, they had David Santiago sitting there calling people not normal. So, you know, it's not being taken fairly because you're going after him. Like I said, look at the things and see what's actually there, not because of a dispute between him and a resident. This is a personal thing between him and a resident. It's freedom of speech. It doesn't affect his ability to serve on the board. Thank you. Thank you. Kathy Bryan, please. Kathy Bryan, Deltona. I'm pretty much going to mimic a lot of what Matthew said. There's two sides to every story. We've had a former commissioner up here who a resident told her to suck of something. But you never heard the other side of it and what was said to him by her or otherwise. There was two commissioners in an office that was being probably illegally videoed with another worker walking in front of it arguing over issues. There was, again, allegations of sexual conduct. You know, you have to look at both sides. I don't agree with calling somebody out like that. Not a bit. Do people have freedom of speech? Yes. I agree it cannot be used irresponsibly. But until you have both sides of the story and both people sitting here, don't make judgment calls because there's tons of people. I heard people up here in public forums saying stuff that are some of the worst out there calling people out and saying stuff. So, don't judge lest ye be judged. You know what I mean? Thank you. Thank you. Tim Blodgett, please. The picture here, this lady posted if any of you want to see it. Now, is this government at the speed of light or is this a conglomeration of sunshine violations? Because this happened over the weekend. All of a sudden, we've got a kangaroo jury here from a third world country where you don't get any notice, where you don't get to defend yourself, and where you skip over all of the procedures. And Carolyn over there laid out a whole bunch of state procedures that you're supposed to be following. Ms. Santiago here just wants to take a vote. That's it. Don't want to hear what I have to say. Don't want to hear nothing. Just want to vote and do what your husband tells you to do. Mr. Blodgett, keep the personal attacks down. I get your emotion, but you have to stop with the... Which brings us to another point, Mayor. Four of you up there are benefiting financially from the people who are behind this. That's you, Santiago, Herrick, and Nabich. I demand that you recuse yourself from anything to do with this. Because you're all tainted. Every one of you. This isn't about free speech. I'm a psych nurse. I used to evaluate people coming into hospitals to figure out, are they a danger to themselves or anybody else? This lady stalked me for two years. I asked her a clinical question. Are you sexually frustrated? You all go get your little iPads and look up, what is the treatment for sexual frustration? You'll find that it says something about getting out of your environment. I said, find yourself a safe space. Do you need one? And then I tried to put it as lightly as possible. Do you need a toy? Well, if you take a look at that same article for Psych, it tells you that masturbation is the treatment. So, stop acting like children. Grow the hell up. And stop trying to do all this crap for Jason Jacobson or whatever his name is. In a few days, we'll all be gone. I can't wait. Thank you. Courtney Crossburgos, please. Mr. Blodgett. Mr. Blodgett. One more outburst and you're gone. Mr. Blodgett. Can you please escort Mr. Blodgett out for interrupting the meeting? Courtney Crossburgos. This is a reason that we need a code of conduct so we don't get here. This is absolutely ridiculous. I've been called worse by Dory's husband. But, you know. Ms. Crossburgos, please. Let's leave the personal attacks out. Well, it wasn't an attack against her. And he's apologized, so it wasn't an attack against him either. I was just stating a fact. But, anyway, just for him to come up here and do it again is like pouring salt in the wound. I don't know whether he should be removed or not, but something should happen where people can't just say anything they want, whenever they want, however they want, when it's derogatory like that. There's a time and a place, and I don't think our meetings are that. It's just something. There has to be some kind of consequence for the things you say and the things you do. I mean, that's the world we grew up with, most of us. Like I said, I don't know whether he should be removed or not, but he definitely should be censured in some way. And it should be made clear to everyone that that's not acceptable. That's my feeling. Thank you. Virgil Ford, please. I'd just like to bring up a couple of things. The first thing I want to bring up is people that live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. That's the first thing. All right, next, this person that's involved in this problem. Y'all had her up here in a private ceremony for her son. Not taking anything away from that, but it seems like that she's getting preferential treatment and is politically motivated. Mr. Harriet, I think you can answer that one pretty much because you guys seem to be on point with each other. It's all it is. You're making this political. You shouldn't. He's done a lot for this community. Y'all know he's knowledgeable about certain things. All right? Let's give it a break, everybody. Don't be so hasty in trying to cast judgment on something that's on a person that she's not even saying her real name. Do you know anything about her? Do you know about her history? Why don't you look it up? You can look it up. You guys are all intelligent people, look it up and find out what her history is, what she does. You might be surprised. Just take a look at it. Take the time, Google it, and go and dig a little bit deeper. Maybe you'll just find something about what her motivation is. Thank you. Thank you. Pat Blodgett, please. I can't believe that you're crucifying my husband and his reputation. He has done a lot for this city. He has done a lot for these people. Emma, you of all people, your husband sends out mailers with other... We're not doing personal attacks, Ms. Blodgett. Please. Okay. Mr. Santiago has sent out mailers with other people's addresses on them so that they can't feel safe to stay at home. But that's okay? My husband was defending himself and his family. This lady badgered us multiple times a day, every day, on Messenger and Facebook, but yet she can get away with it? She's never showed up at a meeting. Mr. Jessup, I haven't seen him at a meeting either, but yet he goes against us too. What's wrong with you guys? My husband is knowledgeable. He knows what he's doing. He's an asset to the planning board, and you'd be crazy if you kicked him off. Thank you. Mayor, that ends public comments. Commissioner Herriot. Thank you, Mayor. One thing that I've heard that's consistent from both people that want us to take one action or the other is that the action that we're here because of is inexcusable. I can't think of any time when saying those things is acceptable. I understand that there is another side to it, but the other person isn't a public figure. They're not appointed to a public board to represent the city. As we had somebody get up earlier to say that there are certain things that the city has a black eye for, and I don't want this to be one of them. Commissioner Caldwell. Did you hold on? Well, I didn't see it up. So, Commissioner Howington, go ahead. Sorry. If everybody wants to take this vote, that's fine. But as Ms. Hickerson stated, Florida statutes do talk about due process, and we owe it to Mr. Blodgett to have due process. We've seen it done here before, and he needs to have an opportunity to represent himself. I have spoken to both parties. I am aware that there are two sides to this, and I'm not condoning the actions. He himself has admitted what happened, but that there are extenuating circumstances. So, I'm asking for this commission to offer him the due process that he has allowed per Florida state statute, and before we remove him, we need to follow those rules. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, I do want to provide some clarity. So, under the Deltona City Code, the Planning and Zoning Board members all serve at the pleasure of the city commission. Full stop. The Florida statute mentioned earlier, Section 112.501, which is entitled Municipal Board Members' Suspension Removal, states that for the purposes of this section, the term Municipal Board Member is defined as any person who is appointed or confirmed by the governing body of a municipality to be a member of a board, commission, authority, or council, which is created or authorized by general law, special act, or municipal charter. The Planning and Zoning Board is authorized pursuant to your code of ordinances. It is not contained within your charter, and the statute later goes on to state that this section applies in the absence of a local provision, of a charter provision. So, the members of your Planning and Zoning Board serve at your pleasure, and certainly Section 112.501 is informative and could be a valid process if you all would like to follow that process. That provides for a resolution that states the basis, and then there's a notice and opportunity to be heard. However, because your local board is not authorized by general law or special act, which are acts of the legislature, or contained in your municipal charter, 112.501 is not a mandatory process for this specific case. Thank you. Vice Mayor Avila-Vasquez. Thank you, Mayor. I echo Commissioner Dorey Harenting's comment. You know, it's very sad that the city, the commission here, has to judge a person because of Facebook. If I have to talk and mention everything that has been said about me on Facebook, disgusting words that I've been called, I just don't know where we're coming from when we have to make a decision because of Facebook. It's like it was said, it's like it was said, are we becoming a Facebook court. I don't agree with what was going on. I have not seen any of this information that everyone is talking about. I have not witnessed it. I have not witnessed it. I have not seen it. I believe that everyone deserves a chance to defend themselves. And I think this is where we should take it. You know, people volunteer to become part of our board. And this could put a dent on things going forward, asking for people to volunteer. And I hate to think that because this is an election year or an election month, that this is happening. I hate to think that. I know that there are people out there who are assisting me, helping me. And my decision can go either way, but I'm okay with it. I'm okay with whatever decision I make. Because I think it's not right for us to judge somebody by what's happening on Facebook. Look, it's just sad that this is coming to this. I mean, I've been called a lot of mean things from the podium. And nobody has been thrown out of this building when I was being attacked because of the names that I was called. The offense about my husband being 100% disabled veteran. I didn't see nobody being thrown out. I didn't see anybody being thrown out when I was called a cheap streetwalker. Nobody here. Not one resident stood up to defend me. And this happened here in our chamber. So I'm just saying it's very sad that this is where the city of Deltona is going with judging people with what's going on on Facebook. But we'll see what happens. Thank you, Mayor. Commissioner Caldwell. I'm going to echo everything that's been said up here for Ms. Hollington and Ms. Maritza. You know, if we're going to hold people accountable on personal accounts from things that were put on a Facebook page and make our decision based on that, are we going to make our decision for everything we vote on based on what we see on Facebook? I don't think that's a reasonable decision to make. Commissioner Novick. And then. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we extend the meeting to 845, please. So motion by Commissioner Novick, second by Commissioner Caldwell. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. All those opposed? All right. Meetings extended for 15 minutes. All right. Nobody else is on the board. Let's go ahead and do a verbal vote, please. Commissioner Caldwell. Commissioner Harriet. Yes. Commissioner Howington. No. Commissioner Novick. Yes. Commissioner Santiago. Yes. Vice Mayor Villa-Vasquez? No. Mayor Villa. Yes. 4-3. Motion passes, 4-3. City Attorney Comments? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So we have before you tonight a discussion regarding revisions to ordinance number 19-2026, which is the temporary moratorium on data centers. So, as you'll recall, the City Commission approved this ordinance on first reading on September 21st, 2026. Due to changes in the ordinance text, which reflect recent adoptions by Volusia County, we wanted to bring back this ordinance with the red line version for your all feedback before it is moved forward to a final adoption on second reading. Thank you. At this time, I want to attend a motion before we go to public comment. Commissioner Harriet. So moved. Can we please stop with the distractions in the back? There's a motion by Commissioner Harriet. Is there a second? Commissioner Santiago. Second. Okay. Commissioner Novick, did you want to add something before we go to public comment? Yeah. So the county passed a moratorium on data centers, and I'd just like us to take a look at mirroring the wording and bring that back to the commission for consideration to make sure that we're in lockstep and not have something different than what is in the unincorporated Volusia County area, and just for coordination purposes and consistency. Yeah. Okay. Is there any public comment? Thank you, Commissioner. All right. Yes. Mayor, I apologize. What was the motion? To approve. To approve. Yes. So I believe it was to approve the red line ordinance as attached to be moved forward to second reading. Thank you. Matthew Borges. Yes, it's you, Mr. Borges. First, the last one was supposed to be a discussion only, but for this year, I support creating a reasonable path for data centers in Deltona. They offer an opportunity for diversity on our tax base. They attract technology investment, and they create skilled careers for residents. Amazon has announced the third building coming up here. That is a logistics facility and not a data center, but that connection matters. Amazon is also AWS, and they do a lot of AI and data centers. They've also put out there that it's not going to create an issue with water. It's not going to create an issue with the electricity, the zero emissions on everything. They've also put out there that they're doing non-disclosure agreements with the government when they do these. So that was announced on October 2nd that they're not going to have anything. They're going to be transparent on all their stuff, but they are pushing for data centers, and they're a big thing here in Deltona. So if we're putting a moratorium on this, that's going to stop a lot of things for Deltona. It's going to halt a lot of things for everything. A lot of companies are coming out, speaking against the moratoriums that the governments are putting on the data centers. You're allowed to put one on the side of your house, and they're paying residents to put it on the side of their house. So I look for a path forward on this. If we're going to do a moratorium, then be very temporary on it, because it's like SB 180 where everybody talks about it's going to halt a lot of things that we're doing here in Deltona. We have no technology in our careers, and if we stop something like this, it's going to halt a lot of growth for Deltona, and all these AI and data centers and all these big careers, they're going to Daytona, they're going to Lake Mary, they're going elsewhere. They're not staying here. And so we've got to be very cautious on that, and if we're going to do this moratorium, then it's going to halt a lot of things that we can do for growth. We keep talking about growth, and we keep talking about diversity of our taxes, and this is stopping it. Amazon has put out there that they're doing a lot of support for the community for adding these data centers, with adding stuff for technology for the community centers. They're adding infrastructure. They're doing a lot of good things. If they bring these data centers into the area, it doesn't mean that they're going to do anything wrong. We do landfills and everything. There's ways to do it that doesn't hurt the city. So I think we should look at that and not just put a straight no on anything. Thank you. Thank you. Mayor, that was the only one. Okay. Nobody else is. Hold on. Commissioner Caldwell. No, I thought we were going to vote. I'm sorry. Let's go ahead and vote. Commissioner Caldwell. Yes. Commissioner Harriot. Yes. Commissioner Howington. Yes. Commissioner Novick. Yes. Commissioner Santiago. Yes. Vice Mayor Villa-Vasquez. Yes. Mayor Villa. Yes. 7-0. All right. City manager comments. Thank you, Mayor. Just two quick items. I just want to mention what a great video by the city commissioners at the State of the City address. I missed it in person. I was driving cross-country. My daughter just got out of the Army, and she had me drive a truck from Seattle to Deltona the other day. But I did watch it while I was driving. Hopefully all the residents get a chance to watch the video. It was a great job by the commission and the communications staff working together. Tomorrow night's Deltona University, as of earlier today, we had 37 residents signed up, so we have an opening for three more people if it hasn't been filled up yet. That's tomorrow night, Deltona University. Thank you, Mayor. Yes. City attorney. Thank you, Mayor. We had one more that wasn't on yours. We do need to request an executive session in the matter of Denise Magliotti versus the City of Deltona. So we'll work with your clerk to schedule that before the next commission meeting. Obviously, I won't be here for that, but can I give them a little help? Can you guys please give them more time than three minutes to come from there to down here? Schedule it a little bit sooner. 4.30 would be great. Just sometimes there's not enough time. Certainly. We'll work with the manager. Residents, unfortunately, don't know that until the shade meetings are public. Okay. Is that it? That was it. Thank you, Mayor. All right. We got seven minutes left, so I'm going to try to go through all of you. District 6, we'll start with you this time. I'll make it easy. Nothing tonight, sir. District 5, Commissioner Caldwell. This whole table with nothing here. Commissioner Howington. I have a couple resident questions that came through. Do we have a list of the cable companies that are installing cable within the city? Because the complaint that I received was that they've had three different companies come through, and they're wondering if there will be any more. I don't know if we have more coming, but we do know that the company is working in the city. No, I don't have anything additional as far as the number or identities, but there were some changes in the last legislative session that seriously limit the city's ability to limit these activities. So, the notice provided to the city and to residents is very much hamstrung by the legislature. Is there any way that we could possibly ask them to notify our residents when this is happening so it doesn't cause issues with people being able to enter and exit their homes? Yeah, we can work with staff to see what's feasible. Thank you, because in some situations that could become safety. Let's see, and then the same person was asking, is there any discussion of underground utilities specifically for electricity or natural gas? Because, obviously, their yards keep getting torn up. They'd like to have them all torn up at the same time if it's going to happen. That's a costly item that we'll have to talk about at some other time. Okay. And then, do we still own the house that's over, I think, by the RIP site? Is that, or the one that we purchased? Mayor, Eastern Plant? Possibly. There's a home next to the Eastern Plant. Yeah. It's owned by the city. Is it inhabitable, or does it need to be condemned? We talked about using it for training, and it's an emergency center for the staff working Eastern during hurricanes. I was wondering if we might be able to use it for potential, like, cold weather housing or something, maybe partnering with either First Step Shelter. Obviously, they've been in here a few times. We could take a look at that, Commissioner. It's not the Ritz-Carlton by any means. Right. No, I understood. And then, I just wanted to say thank you for holding the students out in the lobby. It's much appreciated during public comment. That's all I have. Thank you. Commissioner Santiago, District 2. Quick, Mayor. Just wanted to say thank you very much, Mayor, for your last four years. Appreciate your hard work. I know you love this city. I just want to say thank you for everything, and God bless. Thank you. Commissioner, District 1, Harriet. Thank you, Mayor. I'd like to second Emma's thank you from the residents. It is very obvious that you put a lot into the city, and it's not going to end after this meeting. On another note, I would also like to get consensus for staff to work on a code of conduct for all appointees, board representatives. Any time we ask citizens to represent the city, I'd like to see them sign an acknowledgment of some sort of code of conduct that just says that they have to uphold a certain standard while they're representing the city as representatives of the city. And that's all I've got. All those in favor? Aye. All those opposed? All right. You have consensus. Vice Mayor Avila Vasquez? Thank you, Mayor. First, I'd like to thank the Sons and Daughters of Italy for their invitation celebrating Italian Heritage Month. I also want to thank Hope, the Hope event. Thank you for inviting me. It was an awesome event. Met so many different people from so many different churches. It was really awesome. Thank you, Commissioner Davidson, for bringing up, because this is the reason why I voted the way I did for the PNZ vote. We have nothing to fall back on, the reason why we should have even considered that. But this will help us going forward. This will make things really smooth because they'll have to sign a form just like we signed. So thank you for bringing that up. Mayor, thank you so much for your service. I appreciate working with you all these four years. And that's it for me. All right. I just have one comment before we go, and that's for the Ordinance Committee. When we – I was the one that requested the Ordinance Committee, full disclosure. I could only get consensus if we let it sunset for a year. Just because it would fall right before an election, it would only be fair for the new commission coming in to just reestablish it. It only takes one vote. It doesn't take a long time, and they should be able to do that. November 9th is the exchange of the gavel, and the new commission gets put in. Remember to go out and vote. And I respect our constitutional republic. I will be here to give my support to whoever the incoming mayor is and the commission. I will not be a shadow mayor. I will say that. And I do have a small little speech at that point, but it's all positive. So everyone have a good night. Meetings adjourned. Thank you.