Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to this joint meeting between the Delray Beach Community Redevelopment Agency and the Delray Beach City Commission. This May 26th, if I could have the clerk please call the City Commission roll. Deputy Vice Mayor Markert. Here. Commissioner Mollica. Here. Commissioner Casale. Here. Vice Mayor Burns. Here. Mayor Carney. Here. And if I could also ask you to please call the roll for the Community Redevelopment Agency. Chair Casale. Here. Vice Chair Mollica. Here. Deputy Vice Chair Markert. Here. CRA Commissioner Burns. Here. CRA Commissioner Carney. Here. Could I get a point of order for Mr. Moore to just explain to the public why this was a joint meeting. I was speaking to the City Attorney about this and it's at some point in very short time it's converted to a workshop which means we couldn't take a vote if we had decided to vote on something or advance something in addition to what this discussion is here today. Could you explain how that transpired? The purpose of this exercise is to experience an overview in terms of the Pompey Park Guarantee Maximum Price Construction Overview. Likewise an opportunity for guidance and direction to be offered by both the Commission and the Community Redevelopment Agency Board of Directors. And the next regular meeting of course of the City Commission will be one week from today in the event that there's an affirmative interest to proceed in that regard a action item will be forthcoming in that time frame. Right but I think typically if you see things on as meetings they should stay on as meetings and not be changed in the last moment to a workshop. Thank you. And I can I make another point of order one other thing? Sure. I'm just going to make this super brief as we sit up here as the you know overseers of the policies procedures in the city. The email exchange that happened Friday and Saturday very disappointing. We should be held to a very high standard. What are you referring to? I'm referring to you going outside council without consulting with us for a determination. Let's have that discussion later. Well I think we need to have that discussion. It's let's have that discussion later. We should at the end of the meeting. Thank you. I'd appreciate a discussion on that. I'm not going to be discussing that. Well you should. You're the one sending out the emails. Thank you. I would appreciate an explanation. You can appreciate what you like. Lovely. Who do we go first? So I would like to begin with Director of Public Works Missy Barletto as this is a joint engagement. Executive Director Rene Jada Singh is present and of course Director of Parks and Recreation Sam Mitot. However the presentation the principal will be Director of Public Works Missy Barletto. If you would please Miss Barletto. Good afternoon Mayor and Commissioner and C.R.A. Chair and C.R.A. Commissioners. Missy Barletto Director of Public Works. I have with me Sam Mitot who is the Parks and Recreation Director and Rene Jada Singh who is the Director of the C.R.A. All of us are working together to bring the Pompeii Park project to fruition. While the three of us have been sitting up here in the front also I would like to introduce the team from C.R.A. Construction. Ted if you would come up to the podium and introduce your team. Sure. Good afternoon. Ted Kava Senior Vice President of C.R.A. Construction. It's a pleasure seeing everyone again. It was a couple years since we presented here. With me today is Alvin Gunder Senior Project Manager and Akini Akini as project one of our project managers with our partners. Dwayne Randolph from the Randolph Construction Group. William Hatcher from Hatcher Construction and Ramanay Ray from the REACH Group. Thank you very much for the opportunity. And from city staff you don't often get an opportunity to meet the city employees behind the scenes but in the very back row sitting as far away from me as humanly possible is Engineering Division Manager Jason Kaufman and the project manager for this project Kevin Matthews. And there are quite a few Parks and Recreation staff back there as well. Do you want to introduce your crew? Good afternoon everybody. Again Sam Eta, Parks and Recreaker. In the back we have Parks Superintendent Senovian Stevens, Recreation Superintendent Prentice Mobley, as well as Assistant Director Amy Hanson, all of them who have been vital in the project so far. Okay so getting started I wanted to initially give an overview of the Pompeii Park project. The Pompeii Park Recreation Center is being is being renovated to provide more recreational opportunities. Some of those include a newly constructed recreation facility, new large multi-purpose community rooms, a new pavilion with shelter and restrooms, an indoor running track which is probably my favorite feature, not that I'll be running on it, an outdoor fitness and shade structure for after school after school care program that is completely separated as required by statute from all of the other facilities so those children are not exposed to other visitors at the at the recreation center. There's a new aquatics facility, a pool cabana with changing rooms, increased parking lot area, new playgrounds, new basketball courts, indoor and outdoor. There's quite a lot of amenities that are included in this project. So here's a project overview of what the finished project is going to look like. There are a couple of changes that we're going to present to you today from this initial from this initial view. The existing this is what this site looks like now with the parking areas in two in three major spots, the tennis courts, the existing swimming pool being a distance away from the recreation center, the three ball fields. There is not a large multi-purpose room. There's very little parking available in the parking lots and there's no on-street parking. I will add into this that the on-street parking that's being added for this project is actually going to be done in coordination with the northwest neighborhood project and not with the Pompeii Park Recreation Center project. So this is what the proposed new site looks like. The parking area it now extends all the way around the east and south perimeter of the of the site. There's a new you can see the outline of the new recreation center building. The the there are two swimming pools in this in this rendering, one on the on the north side is that's a family pool. It has a zero depth entry into the pool. So it's got a lot of nice shallow area for very young children and then it goes into the deeper area of the pool and the little square outline on the outside of that is actually a lap pool in an area that will be dedicated to the pool exercise classes that are very very popular. The other swimming pool that is shown in this in this particular drawing is a competition swimming pool and then to to the east of that are two full-size basketball courts and one half court. The tennis center remains the same and then there's a great lawn there with a new playground facility that has a shaded structure over it. So this starts to show what the interior of the recreation center is going to look like. This is the ground floor level that has two indoor basketball courts. It has the administration offices, activity rooms, storage restrooms, lockers for the swimming pool area. The after school care suite is on this first floor level along with a playroom and an area for lifeguard staff as well as the gym which in addition to the basketball courts provides space for fitness dance and aerobics. So the second floor second floor plan for the second floor includes more administration offices. It includes a an auditorium style for a big community meeting room as well as individual meeting spaces that are dedicated for the seniors program and and teen programs and and other items. This is what it's going to look like on the outside. These are the exterior elevations. The bottom picture is the front elevation as you come into the building. The top picture is what it will look like from the pool deck. This is the interior. You'll see what what looks like two sets of stairs. The one set of stairs is actually for walking up and down. The second set of stairs is something that's become quite popular for teens. It's a lounging area where they can sit and talk on on the stairs that will also get them up and down but there are actual chargers for their phones on the front side of those those stairs so they can sit and charge their phone and talk and visit in that area which I would be in the green chairs if it was me but I guess the kids like to sit in these more communal areas. You can see to the foot of the stairs there's also an indoor play play area for the smaller kids or the walking track for some of us. So these are some of the exterior amenities what they're going to look like the the basketball pavilion uh the dugouts for the baseball fields and um the swimming pool cabana area picnic pavilions at the bottom there you'll see um two different views of the pergola and we're going to have more conversation later on in this presentation about both the pergola and the competition swimming pool. So as we've we've talked about um many times here recently a construction manager at risk or CMAR contract is divided into two phases the first phase is the one that we're coming to a close right now where we have worked with the contractor as well as our owners representatives to um look in great detail at the plan set to identify potential conflicts to identify different ways that we can work together to revise those conflicts in advance of construction which is always a savings of time and money and um to identify alternatives that may or may not be remain in the project plans um as we get closer to establishing the um guaranteed maximum price or gmp um and also value engineering items value engineering is not where we look at it and we remove things that are important to the project it's where we look at at the materials that have been specified to construct the the project and substitute less expensive materials that provide the same quality and serve the same purpose that's where you get the value they may not be the high-end materials but they are still providing all of the structural integrity and everything else that's required to create the project many of the value engineering items you would never see they're inside the walls they're heard they're you know it's the ceiling tiles nobody ever walked into it well i'm not going to say that because somebody probably did but walked into a facility and said well this would be so much nicer with different ceiling tiles so it's that kind of things that we that we were looking at um once we went through all of that there were a number of things that were suggested by core by the contractor that um that could have been either gmp alternates or value engineering things that city staff did not accept so i will will say that that we we stuck very strongly to the integrity of the project and did not um accept all of the offerings that that were put forward so once we get through that process then we look at the conflicts we resolve those through improved engineering plan sets and provide those and the contractor takes those bid sets and then advertises for subcontractors to bid on all the elements of the project and they do that in accordance with the city's procurement process and procedures to ensure that we're providing a level playing field out there and when they come back after that all of those bids come in we we do what is called bid leveling where they take the bids and they make sure that that they are comparing apples and apples on each of the subcontractor types and not apples to oranges and lemons so that it's very difficult to see where the biggest value is so they do the the bid leveling and arrive at an initial cost estimate and then we begin to negotiate on that on that cost estimate and in this particular project i will tell you that it was a a long hard-fought negotiation on the cost for this project and and staff and our owners rep along with the contractor's team worked very hard on getting to this number so the contractor then submits the proposed guaranteed maximum price for the project and at that point which is kind of where we are now we're closing out this first phase of the contract the commission can either accept or reject the offered gmp and then phase two should you accept the offered gmp we start construction so um i've already alluded a little bit to to there has been a lot of negotiation that that went back and forth between the city team and the contractor team their starting position with us was at 65.8 million um following the the um reduction of the gmp alternates the value engineering and the bid leveling then the price came down to 63.3 million which is what they initially submitted to us and after after that we had a final negotiation meeting with upper level city staff and we agreed that should the commission approve it that we might be able to remove the competition swimming pool and ask them to make some some further adjustments on their side which they did and that brought the price down to 59.39 million as their current um best price offer and gmp so i know you're going to ask what some of those um reductions in fees and contingency actually were so the gmp alternates and value engineering reduced the total proposed gmp by um 1.27 million right off the bat and some of those things um although i have the elimination of the competition swimming pool in there that's not included in that 1.27 number and i shouldn't have left it on that line but that's my bad but um we removed one of the outdoor fitness um fitness areas um for equipment we only have one way finding monument signed for the for the project right at the entrance not a second one at the northwest area we reduced the number of bullpens at the adult field we removed the decorative pergola and we also removed the outdoor basketball half court and that got us down that's what got us to the 63.3 million number and then to get us the rest of the way we um we removed the competition pool for 2.4 million dollars and then um the core team reduced general conditions and requirements um at 100 just 160 000 dollars they reduced their management fee from 5 to 4.5 for a reduction of 412 266 they had originally calculated contingencies on the project on the full project amount at 63.3 million normally that is done just on the hard costs what it actually costs to build the project and and they recalculated those contingencies off just the direct hard costs which resulted in nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars in savings to the gmp proposal and then they they reduced some of the material escalation trade costs for 215 000 and then reduced the material escalation contingency from 0.5 percent to 0.25 percent and that was another um another 110 000 that was removed from the 63.3 million gmp proposal to bring it down to the 59.39 number so as far as as scheduling goes all of the changes to the to the costing and things did not alter the schedule because even removing the competition pool that was being done in in um in parallel with other activities that were going to be happening out there so it did not reduce the overall timeline the um the final completion for the community center is would be scheduled for may of 2028 and the final completion for all of the ball fields picnic pavilions paving curbs sidewalks all the exterior thing exterior items would be in january of 2029 so that is the end of my presentation today if you have any questions for us or for the core team we're here to just one thing i'd jump in there add just to give some clarity on that last slide with the timelines important note is that many of the items for example like the ball fields and picnics they're still online during the initial phase i don't want everyone to think that the whole park gets closed down all at once and this is only opened up in stage that it's phased in some of the new construction and the old facilities are still operational while and then we work on the fields at the end does that make sense right correct even the recreation center will still be able to be used by the general public while the new recreation center is being is being constructed so we've um the phasing of this project has paid as much attention as possible to keeping the facility operational for the period of time that it's undergoing the renovations thank you very much um this is a joint meeting so does the executive director of the cra want to um weigh in on anything um no that's well i will add actually we do have 45 million dollars budgeted for this so at some point we'll have to look at our budget and how to make adjustments to accommodate this if we go forward how what's your timeline on getting the increased uh 14 million dollars 15 million well we have some areas um that are in the similar um i guess location that we can change our shift funds over and we'll have to look at budgeting next year but we'd have to do this year through a budget amendment and then next year so i'd say within the next year or so we'd be able to do it i don't know what we're receiving yet from the city and the county so that is when you say other project you're talking about the improvement money that's set aside also for the northwest southwest neighborhoods there's improvement funds um we could look at our acquisition funds there's also some west atlantic projects on the i guess in the main atlantic avenue that we could look at as well um it's going to be a discussion we'll have to have how we want to make those adjustments but they're all coming from the west it's all in the same area because right now i think about 90 percent of our budget is in the west atlantic northwest southwest the set area so it'll be coming from some project in the area great thank you okay to the commission i guess uh who would like to who would like to be recognized to talk first mayor excuse me the agenda does have public comments on it i don't think we've done that yet oh no i have not um this meeting is uh open for now for public comments anybody wishing to comment on this uh proposal please come to the lectern give your name and zip code for the record and you will each have three minutes good afternoon um my name is cynthia ridley i live at 210 northwest south um northwest south um 210 northwest south avenue over here um i'm here standing because i grew up in this community we don't saw old pompey park we saw a new pompey park and now we hoping that you bring this to our children that's coming after us to this pompey park that we add technology and all the things that we need to happen at pompey park even for the older senior community as i am to visit pompey park and this community needs that we use pompey park we love pompey park you can't hear anything bad about pompey park because most of us grew up at pompey park when we said our teens when we used to have dances and um from this community so not to see this go forward i think it'll be a disappointment to all the people that we serve that look like me that we've been waiting for such a long time to see something that represent us in our community it ain't about to say it's about the whole community because you know it's changing so other folks using our park as well so they ain't it's pompey park but just to see the changes that's coming um i'm having my my grandson go out there to pompey park i use pompey park pretty much everybody when we need pompey park pretty much it's never a say no from this community and it'll be a disservice to this community if that doesn't happen y'all don't want us up in here closing your your comments down because you know we good at doing some things and we don't want that so please um i'm here as our community and been here over 50 years and i'm just um finished my 50th class reunion and to see pompey park miss liby wesley do roots out there we grew up in this community and not to see some changes that young folks need as well it'll be a disservice that we can't find the money i'll have sit at many of your commission meetings see y'all find money and guess what y'all say yes i will never hear a no maybe one or two people but other than that i don't see so many developers coming here there's no discussion it's a yes so i don't even understand why we're standing here and saying that we can't do pompey park i don't miss too many commission meetings that there's a no but i turn around i hear a lot of yeses from this commission so it's it'll be a disappointment to me to hear that is a no so listen to this community i am just one person but i'm telling you we don't want to shut a meeting down and we good at that and have a great day thank you very much are there any other members of the public wishing to speak seeing none public comment is closed now to the commission who would like to be recognized first that be you well sure i'll start okay yes thank you um i want to say that um you know i appreciate core and um city and all of cra for all the work that you you do you know it's everything is commendable however i'm seeing what i'm hearing is just not negotiation of price but a significant reduction in the project with removing the competition pool i was never in favor of the competition pool because we have won 1.8 miles according to um this google says it's 1.8 miles from pompey park however the community weighed in on that and i just don't think that to remove it without community input um and noticing this meeting ahead of time so community has a an opportunity to weigh in on that is doing a disturb a disservice to um to our community so you know it's like this as miss ritley said it's been a long awaited project that delivers so much to this community the whole city actually and so i would like to see us and i'm disappointed that we're not making any decisions on this today am i is that correct we're not voting on anything today um according to the agenda it's been noticed as a workshop so there's nothing you can provide consensus and direction but there's no formal action that can be taken today okay they will come if we agree they will be coming back to us at the next meeting with a contract to uh to vote on yeah well as as i was saying i i definitely am in favor of us moving forward finding these funds with whatever we have to do with the the CRA budget um however um i don't know the decision about the pool as i said i've never been in favor of it but i think that more than the commission and the board should be deciding on whether we remove that or not that's all i have to say at this time i may come back later sure i'd love to go next i would love to speak to that i don't know where the 1.8 mile um pool is okay but here's the reason why the competition pool ever became a subject of conversation miss burns is because i found out that the kids in our school public schools could not participate in the swim team because they didn't have transportation back and forth to boca which is where the kids are currently swimming it used to be aquacrest and even though at the time i spoke to the woman who was running the team she said she did a lot to match kids up that had resources and their moms were driving them with kids who didn't to get a ride but it just didn't pan out for any long term so the the end result is kids who may really benefit from being on the swimming team could not participate for lack of resources and that's how the competition pool started was just to have our swim team be able to have a place so our kids in our city could participate in a swim team because when you're talking about a community like this and you're building this community center looking out at the future you say to yourself not just what is like absolutely necessary but what would really benefit the community in doing it and that was the goal and i i share your concerns in the negotiations of taking out something substantial to get the price down and i'll say this to my colleagues um and not more i spoke to mr schiller and he said the second choice would come back at that 59 price with the competition pool i would like to see the competition pool and another thing i was thinking about we're talking about croquet we should put croquet at pompey park it's perfect we'll have a tremendous amount of parking we have all that green space why are you laughing it's a it's a good it's going to be our community center it's going to have um snack stand it's accessible to the downtown to the restaurants that are downtown it's a prime location with parking and tons of green space i think we should talk about incorporating croquet into this plan as well if we're going forward with croquet those are my positions well i'm disappointed that we had to negotiate things that we wanted like the pergola and the batting cages and the competition pool just to be able to afford it because it wasn't a little bit over it was 20 million over and then you just said something about a concession stand i don't think that's included in the scope of the work and it should be i'm sorry what indoor concession okay i know we have a outdated outdoors concession that i'd like to see addressed and um yeah i'm not i'm i just feel sad pretty much feel sad that we're not getting everything we wanted and then we're paying a lot more a lot more but miss ridley we all want to see pompey go forward and it's going to go forward terence will pay for it thank you um i i echo everything that i've heard i i'm disappointed that we've had to make some adjustments to um the scope um but at the end of the day i'm very much in favor of this project i think it's a good project for our community i i think um you know giving up the competition pool is is difficult but we will still have a pool there so um you know that that part is still good so i'm sorry we have to make some concessions but um if that's what we have to do to keep this project on track i'm i'm i'm good with it unless the community feels there are other concessions that would make more sense that was the one that as i went through with renee that seemed to resonate and make the most sense for me in my chair um but if if others have different opinions i'm certainly open to listening to that and you know we we have a budget like like we do for everything in the city and and but i don't i don't want to see this whole project eliminated or cut i i i'm good with a few small concessions like we're making here to keep it on track and i think it's the right thing for for delray and for the community great um let me just make a couple of quick comments um mr ridley when you talk about the developers come in here and do that those are private funds i look at people have permission to spend private funds a lot differently than i look at spending public funds um everybody wants to get you know we want this project obviously it's it's long overdue for the uh for pompey park i'm excited about a lot of the things that they're going to do i share uh the concern about the competition pool in that number one i don't think it's the city's place to put two million dollars worth of our taxpayer dollar to support public schools i mean that's what we're saying is the public school kids coming in and using it to pool for practice you certainly can't have any competitions there you know the whole thing oh we'll be able to do competition there there's no stands there's no diving platform most of these swim teams have diving things they your swim teams will not come they won't split the team up between the diving teams and and this will not come so i think considering the fact that there is another pool there uh family pool which is really the one that's going to get used um as opposed to just having something there that the public school kids can use once in a while um that doesn't work for me so i i i still think it's an expensive project um i didn't have that conversation regarding um whether we could get that in at that number i don't know i still think it's a i still think the competition pool is not going to get used um i don't think people understand what it costs you know how do you do competition pools you know it's got to be 10 feet each lane's got to be separately uh done it's a very very expensive process if we're 300 000 500 okay do it but it's close to two million dollars so um and by the way atlantic high school does have room in their own campus if they wanted to do a competition pool they could really do it right on their own campus so uh so that's my view so i i guess we we have to give you direction as to where we want to go whether we want this to come back to approve is it what we want to do or is it we want to look at the other contract right what i mean if we look i think we should maybe we look at both contracts at this point in time if we if we go to the a portal portal portal portal okay if we went to portal for example what is the delay um how what does it cost us in time what does it cost the community i'm sorry you have something say something so we do have a contract right now with core so the appropriate way to handle that would be to cancel reject or terminate that contract and then the the number two would be portal because if you recall we had a public hearing with both entities so that's the default um number two then you could direct staff to commence the process with portal it would be the same thing it would still be the cmar it would still be the first phase of the contract then followed by the gmp but the the the proper way to do it would be you would have to terminate the contract with core okay well that's i guess what i'm getting at is if we decided how long would i don't want to cancel the contract without knowing how long the the other one would take so if it's if it's going to drop drag us another year or two years then that my interest level changes and the gmp development should take between three and six months and six months is as longer than i think it should take because this one took a lot longer than i thought it was going to take right yes it did we talked about this like a year ago yes we did i remember my emails to you about the competition pool a year ago so um uh okay well i mean what do we what what's what's the sense of what we would like to do i am not interested in canceling the contract with the company that we've already been doing work with i'm just interested in seeing them give us a little more like a concession stand that's all i want out of life we can get rid of the parole i didn't see a concession no it wasn't in the scope they have agreed to us verbally that they will remove the concession stand at no cost and then the city can embark on designing a replacement and we can work with them later in the contract and and see what the price would would come back at if they were to build the new construct to build the new concession stand before they leave but they did not offer to do that for free there would be i would be coming back for an amendment to the to the commission to pay for that or we could wait for them to um get final close out on their part of the project and we can contract with a different contractor to come in and build the concession stand afterward okay so can i i would like for us to commit to that to to having the after after they ended to commit to coming back and building because this is like creating a brand new modern facility and leaving an outhouse in the middle of it like they're going to take the outhouse down okay and but we need it put back lord willing i will commit to you thank you and i am in favor of moving with core we've we've been on this long enough i really don't want to and i hear you saying six to eight months i don't believe that anyway i do think we have a little at this point um in your discussions with them whether or not they can without the city having to pay for it uh this is a big number you know 59 million i i remember when we did the when we built that uh that that structure it was 450 000 when we built it which give it to the one that the concession stand do any of what you call with the people upstairs there was all different kind of words we had but did we have we created it so they had an elevator and all that stuff hasn't worked in years okay not working in the garage since i've been in the outdoor elevators don't work as much as they do no i'm saying so i mean i think we should i would like to see them if they could include in this 59 million dollars doing this concession stand i mean they're going to have the equipment i'm going to have everything right on site they're going to have i mean they're going to have the demolition things on site because they're going to be demolishing so i don't see if we could possibly get it i think it's something we should try to see if we can get i can understand they can't commit to building something that they don't know what we want but maybe we could get a number an allowance number within that same price thing what is what is the portion on top called i can't ever guess what is it press box that's right that's right i can't remember that that's what we did was the press box because they wouldn't let us do a concession stand so we called up with the press box yes hi um so is it possible if the city goes out and actually gets plans for the concession stand because i think what missy was saying is that we don't have plans for it so it's hard for them you know the contractor just agree to do something without knowing what they're building because what if we build a major structure that's another exactly or another you know community center so what if we actually you know that's the commitment is that the city will go out and get the plans done for it present them to core maybe there's some savings in the project where they could build it or reduce the cost to build it but we'll know more once we actually have plans thank you um the other thing that that we could do is build an allowance into the the contract for the replacement concession stand and and then make sure that the design that we do fits within that allowance but that would um if that were something that you were would be interested in doing it would need to be without increasing the overall gmp and that would be something that i would think that mr kava would want to address okay would you like to address us and i think when it comes down to knowing what we're going to be able to formally introduce yourself mr i'm sorry ted kava core construction senior vice president when it comes down to knowing what we're going to actually build right now we just don't know that so as we talk to staff it's like guys we want to be supportive in this process we want to be part of support of the project but until we have a good understanding of what we're building it's very difficult to come up with the price to incorporate in this but you have course commitment what i'd be willing to do is making sure that there's no fee on top of it i'm just looking for my subcontracting cost to be reimbursed because i just don't know i don't know what i'm going to be pricing out at this stage i have recognized where we are from a budget perspective and we want at the end of the day is what the community wants it's a fantastic project that everyone can be sitting here today being you know really like excited that the project's going to happen so if once we have a design once i have an understanding you have my commitment is that we won't mark it up we'll make sure there's fair competitive pricing at that point in time and then we will work with staff to make that occur but we did recommend the idea of incorporating some type of allowance based on some initial programming that could be incorporated as part of the guaranteed maximum price okay what's the sense of the uh do we want to go forward with that with the idea that we try to build in for me i think that if you can still get the competition pool and be in the same price i don't know why we wouldn't be moving forward that way even if it's six more months we've waited years and years and years for this project i mean the individual who said that they will meet that price and include the competition pool is honorable and we can take that at its word so i don't know why we would forgo that for six months of time hasn't priced this project out yes but they're we're getting a guarantee from them the competition pool is a two million dollar item i understand totally but it was also part of the original agreed package and you know and then and then negotiations is taking something substantial out to get to a lower price i don't know why we wouldn't just give it the next six months and and get it done and i and i i understand totally what you're saying about the school system so maybe we could go to the county and ask them to um you know supplement a little because it is for the kids in the school um i i always feel like there's a way to get the things that we want done and if that's important enough to us um we should we should do that and especially if we can do it at the same price as not doing it that's to me is well the issue is we want to spend another six or eight or ten months it's not going to be six or eight or ten i think the staff said it'll be it would be like six and i think six months of waiting is worthwhile if we get something out of it that's substantial in my opinion and i would like to also talk about the croquet being over there and my vote is to move forward with the substantial allowance for the concession okay i'm sorry sorry can i comment forward with the concession stand another suggestion is we could actually keep the funds in the CRA budget so it's not being transferred into their contract if we want to do that instead of an allowance it could be just held with us so we can budget appropriately just a suggestion and also in the information world that we live in is there not another city that's built a a concession center like this that we could just kind of standard plans out there that we can that's what i'm thinking we can adapt that's what i'm thinking rather than reinventing the whole wheel and and while we're doing that and i agree with that but please uh inquire with those persons who use the concession and the and the press box because the last one i mean standing you couldn't see the the ballpark you couldn't see what you were supposed to see so whoever designed that one kind of missed the mark so please let those persons who are you know associated with that affiliated with that be a part of the plan to say which one of those ready-made plans you you pick out so that we can see that will definitely be a part of the process so we have no delay no delay no delay no delay no delay so we have consensus uh uh come back to us do you want to talk about the um the um croquet over there it's not part of the design it wasn't part of the original thing you can just throw down grass fake grass please please that's not the right location i mean you're just i know you really don't want to do it okay it has parking fine mr mayor yes to summarize given the consensus offered by three of us three or four so in any event given the consensus we are in position to offer a guaranteed maximum price contract in time for the june 2nd meeting there are a few um things that we still need to to sew up in the contract staff will be meeting to discuss that this week and i am hopeful that we will be completely done by june 2nd if not it will be the june 9th meeting so you have two next regular meetings june 2nd june 9th at which point we'll be bringing back a guarantee maximum price contract june 9th for certain it'll be on but we may have it on the earlier one yes okay is that satisfactory to everybody satisfactory okay you have direction thank you for all your hard work in these negotiations thank you for all the hard work you've done i know it's been it's been very very time consuming and i appreciate everybody in the back who was staying far away from missy all the work you did as well so because you good work you were the unsung heroes in getting this delivered so that we could just have a discussion today so we're going to thank you all very much staff for everything you did you did and core of course but staff so i appreciate it anything else that we are adjourned you