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North Greenwood Citizens Advisory Committee on 2026-03-04 5:30 PM - Mar 09, 2026

Clearwater, FL City Council March 9, 2026 71 minutes
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Today is March 4th, 2026. This is the North Greenwood Citizens Advisory Meeting. I will first and foremost like to welcome all of you for being here. So we have agendas are available on the back table. Please be sure to silence all electronic devices. And just a quick reminder, if you wish to speak during the citizens to be heard segment of our meeting, for items not on the agenda, please submit a citizens to be heard card. Those could also be found on the back table there. Next, we are going to have all of the committee members introduce themselves, starting at my far right. Hi, I'm Pam with a municipal thing on the line. I'm Jace Boardman with Landis GoCardis. Marilyn Turman with the Clearwater Urban Leadership Coalition. I'm Kenara Robinson, your committee chair. I'm Hannah Menard with Clearwater Brinkley. Awesome. Thank you very much. So the first item on our agenda is the approval of our minutes from the December 3rd meeting. Are there any corrections that need to be made? Good. Put my good eye on in a second. Yes, there is. Yes. Um, so I have the corrections that I saw here and it would be on page one, under number four, 4.1, excuse me, 4.1. And it was the second paragraph where Chair Robinson, um, let's see, this would be the second paragraph. So after the, uh, recommended increase, uh, the request for the increase for the project at 11-05 Carleton, um, that, uh, I questioned whether or not there needed to be educated to be educated to go back out for the, for that. And, um, Gita Lenny said no, which I just wanted to make sure that was sent there. And then the other from the, um, board members to be heard, just for clarity, we're for Vice Chair. And it says, uh, uh, that I asked about the downtown CRA funds being if they, um, if we could use those for the other CRA. Um, it was clarified. The answer was no. Um, and in addition, uh, the other part of the comment where it said expressed excitement for the project and future business networking that was totally separate. We were talking about the upcoming business showcase that we were doing at the museum for the sea, uh, for the container village. All right. Thank you very much. Are there any other corrections that might need to be made? Okay. Um, so moving on to the motion, um, can I have a motion to, uh, approve the minutes with, uh, stated corrections? I make a motion to approve them with the said corrections. All right. So a motion has been made, uh, by Marilyn Terman. Can I please have a second? Who second? Our second has been made. All in favor? I, okay. Any opposed? Seeing none. Motion passes. All right. So moving on to, uh, the next item on our agenda, which is the citizens to be heard regarding items not on the agenda. Do we have any sentiment, citizens that are interested in stepping forward? All right. Seeing none. Thank you very much. We're moving on to, uh, the next item on our, on our agenda, which is new business. Uh, so we are going to have an introduction of Kyrie Selman, uh, of the new neighborhood, new neighborhoods coordinator, public communications. You can please speak on the APs. All right. I was saying, would I be, or something? Yeah, did I, too? Okay. How are you doing? How are you doing? How are you doing? All right. I have lyrics now, so you'll talk back. All right. My name is Kyrie Selman, and I'm the new neighborhood coordinator at the public communications department. Uh, let's give you a little bit of background on me. I have been with the city for four years. Uh, I had a different floor, all red, had two, you can guess what I was, cross the dark. Uh-uh. Oh, my God. Um, been there, so kind of worked my way up into, uh, up to the city off a little bit, so now I deal with a lot of the neighborhoods. My area is everything west of King to the beach, and then my counterpart, Monica, she's got my piece of things to the beach. If you don't know what I really do, I like to say that I go community with HM. There are a lot of neighborhoods out here that are very active. You know, they call me 24 hours of the day. Sometimes I've got to turn my phone off because they just call it fun, but they really are interested in building the communities that live community. There's a lot of things that they see in the everyday that I said, you know, just for two days to see. So, I am really sure here to make sure that they've heard that it's getting to the right person, and that any projects that they might have, you know, in mind, or they might have ideas for, that again, they're getting it to the right person is actually getting down to some follow-up, this one here as well. Um, I want to run some more background about me. I used to be actually the parking director of the history museum at downtown St. Petersburg. So, I know a lot of, like, right in the street back to St. Petersburg, I know it doesn't, you know, happy and clear water for me to know stuff, but the more you tell me, I bet you I'm proud of them. All right? So, if you ever need me, I have some of my cards. If you know any neighborhoods that you're like, hey, a neighborhood association would be a great thing for them, let them, let me know that. And let them know that also, a neighborhood association is not an HOA, okay? With neighborhood associations, they're volunteer banks, and they're for the people that sit in the neighborhood, and there are new views that we make with that. So, one of the biggest events that we have coming up is called Dangerous Day in the Street on the Revival Bank. Your neighborhood is probably doing it, or doing something around it, or has participated before, but those are the things that we like to do. We like to get the residents of, get the residents with the people of the city, and you're able to talk to them and actually have that bond and that national thought. All right? If you watch this there, they're like, no, get that. All right. Let me ask my part back here, and thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. So, moving on to the next item under New Business 4.2, we have a new board member joining us. So, I would like to take a moment to allow her to introduce herself. So, tonight, um, like me and our campus, they just, uh, I am your founder, and that rest of them are gone. I look at these right here on Northern Fort Harrison Avenue, um, but I am also a licensed people of the North Eastwood area. I've been up to been for six years, born and raised, um, before this in here, I have a lot of people that are part of my organization, um, people I've used to partner with businesses, things like that. I've been trying to bring here and serve me, because I'm always been trying to be an advocate. You're right, me. I am just up. I'll see you guys. Thank you very much. It's a, it's a pleasure to have you on our committee. Thank you. All right. Uh, next item on the agenda 4.3, uh, we will have a presentation from the North Greenwood Overlay District. I'm going to be on to the stakes, but that, that's still acceptable, right? Absolutely. So, um, hi, I'm Lauren Maskey. I'm with the City of Clermarm and Development Department. Um, I just, I'm going to keep asking to be on your agenda as we keep progressing through some of our work, um, briefly for new people that were here at the last meeting. Um, we've been working with the community joining zoning district standards for the North Greenwood area to better, um, support or to be able to achieve the vision that any of public indicated in if you were working on the CRA plan. So, um, there's numerous pieces that have to all come together at the end, and I got the first two pieces wounding along their way, because those take the longest that they require state review, and the Board of County Commissioners approval, and other things. So, I sent them as informational for you. It's the, um, uh, amendments to the City's Concordentive Plan. So, um, the Concordentive Plan is, it's state-required document, but it decides growth and development in the city, um, and sets that policy direction for everything. So, it takes out your existing conditions, it kind of what you want to teach, uh, future growth, and making sure that our communities are changing in a sustainable way. So, we're setting that policy direction through these amendments to our comprehensive plan, and then the approach that we're going to be taking is doing an overlay district for a different freeway for the CRA area that's outside of what's already governed by downtown. So, this, uh, the future land use map amendment, the second piece that was provided as part of the adjustment, is actually putting what, you know, first kind of overlay layer on the map. Um, what that will do is kind of grants for those entitlements for future growth. The pieces that are still to come will be the, the actual zoning code for business. So, I think what will be allowed and what won't be, and as I mentioned last time, there's outreach will be out in the community before anything that is finalized and presented to city council and others for approval, and then we have to change the zoning on our zoning back. So, those are two pieces that are following along. Uh, I, with that, it's actually, we've got help. That's okay. I know a few of y'all heard me say over the year we were a little bit short-staffed to that, in addition to storms and other things, I've delayed this project a little bit. So, Marcy Stenmark, I'd like to interview Marcy because she is our newest addition to our planning division, and she's our long-range planning manager. I'll never say a bit about herself really quickly, just so you know, we're, for a tremendous background, and we're going to very much benefit more, but one of the first problems she's doing is picking up on everything that I haven't gotten most, and finishing up this zoning code. So, we're going to really, really benefit for having her on Sackville Slatter or Aries, because you'll be seeing more for her also. Thank you so much, Lauren. My name is Marcy Stenmark, the law-range planning manager. She's got some advocacy for spying. The reason to change that, I'm very sure to move on all of these shirts on building business, and you know what your goals are, helping you achieve those goals. I've been working in the city now for one month, so I'm still getting to know by later now, but before that, I go for the city of SUNY Carbos for kind of five years. So, I was just next to the work, and I threw water a lot, and I love to watch, and I'm very happy to work with you all. Thanks so bad if you start sign. Thank you. Thank you. I have to say to your friend, she's already done and she died reaching the CRE plan, reading every report that went along with that, asking a lot of questions, like how did we get to catching up on what, you know, the game of zones, games that we played and things like that last year leading into all of this. So, she's done that deep dive, so she'll be ready to be back out and working with you all on those back steps. So, when it comes to these two pieces that I mentioned, the comprehensive planning, policy changes, and the future land use path, those have gone, there's multiple steps in the public, in the public hearing process. So, those have been presented to our community development board already. So, hearing number one is complete, and they ask that you may have recommended approval unanimously. And since they don't approve, they recommend to city council. And so, this will be presented to city council on Monday, March 30th. So, that's a council only week. And the meeting is on Monday, not 3rd of state. So, Monday night, I will be doing a presentation and talking through this with how, with, you know, if I've detailed, they'll allow you already answer any questions that they have. And briefly, again, after it goes to city council for first reading, they approve it, that's when we go on to the county and the state agencies and then circle back to the council. So, you can do your front day again, they were as close through this process. So, I'll continue to keep y'all in the loop and and, like, come back and correct at these that we needed as well. So, thank you. Awesome. Thank you. Or if there's any questions. Are there any questions from the committee? No, anyone? The podium presents. Can we move the podium? Suzanne, we're standing over here. Thank you for that. Thank you for that. Absolutely. We still need to fill out a card. So, just for clarity, because this question is coming up, presentations don't generally allow public comment. It's up to the chair. Should he allowed to allow public comment? If you do, that's up to you and the board. But I do ask because it is public record that they do fill out a comment card. Absolutely. Okay. All right. Thank you for the clarification. So, yes, I am comfortable with opening the floor as long as you fill out a comment card. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Just curious, what does that next stakeholder in Daystack book like? I've also taken a look at some of those prior efforts and I'm just curious what the next format, I guess, for public engaged type looks like. We will be coming out after we have more of what the details of the Cohen school look like because as Marcy and the Ice Car team are crafting that writing all the work rules, right? There are things that are coming up that, you know, it could be this or it could be that, right? And we want to make sure that we heard the community correctly. We want to check a few things with you. So, we haven't really structured it yet, but it would be interactive in some capacity as opposed to a few years. So, we need to get a little bit more feedback on that. And so, structuring in some sort of exercise to make sure we're getting that. Thanks. Awesome. Just get in the top. In the years. No, that was just out of my question. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what you usually do. I mean, I'm assuming it's not my, it's not my thing, but we'll use distribution lists and everything like that. And we usually try to take because we need many different approaches to get them ordered out when we have, when we have to have the meeting scheduled. So, we usually just try to hold them here. We put the police signs out. So, you could just, you know, create a meeting on this site, you know, other signs out where we can, and, you know, as many ways as we end, obviously, but for stationism, then historic from the, from the day of which we want to keep that going. Awesome. Thank you very much for the time. Absolutely. All right. So, we will move on to item 4.4, uh, community redevelopment agency, North Greenwood grant updates from Vicki Shire. Thank you, Vicki Shire, our strategy manager. I'm happy to announce these updates with our grants. However, we do have, um, since the direct update, we do have some that have requested to make a comment. Just want to make sure no chairs are allowed to survive. These are just updates. So, this can allow us to have some new leads to launch your comments on this slide 2.5 board. Yes, as long as they complete the comment card. So, I'm not going to go through every piece of the grant. I'm just going to provide the updates of that. It's okay. And then once I do this, I'm going to try to answer that. So, we're going to start with the North Greenwood residential grant. That's okay. First of all, it was 25,000. It was 20, so now it's 25,000. The next change we made, um, so as long as the applicant stays within the 0 to 120 percent in their area mean income percentage, their match is just 5 percent across the board. There's no longer 5, 10, 15 percent. It is just 5 percent. Your advantage is 5 percent as long as you fall within the 0 to 120 percent for that area in the income. Um, and then also they can still volunteer for every one hour. That did not change, but for every one hour, $150 should we take it off of the average. That didn't change. It's always been there, but I just wanted to remind you. The other change we made was, um, it's for every three years now. So, it's not every 12 months that someone's been applied with this grant. It's every three years effective take of the grant agreement, phone forward. Um, and if you're asking why I'm making those changes, it's we want to make sure that we're spreading the loan throughout the community and stuff like that. This is in the new series that dollars are smaller right now. We want to make sure that's regional to everyone in the community to provide that kind of service. And then, last but not least, we only allow me, uh, only ask them not to provide one to add. And those are the major changes. Does anybody have any questions regarding what for a resident grant? I love the new change. I hope you guys do too. Those put in effect and were approved on, uh, January 12th, 2025, but as the Biden CRN trustees. Ken. Questions. Come in. I don't have any questions. All right, go for it. You should tie up. Come on, Dan. You can go first. So, so it sounds like that's the whole 25,000 is based on income requirements, all that. Okay. Um, we all know from COVID to now, it's like, they asked, you know, like everyone's incomes might have been adjusted since they, and cost upon the roof, all that. So, how does that, how, how quick does that adapt to some caging incomes and all that? And is that, is that big of an account, like, since total billions, since everything's kind of gone through the roof? I would like to say we did with, uh, providing that, you know, zero to 125%, as long as you fall to that, we're only going to five percent matchdown versus it was if you fall to this percent, this percent, this percent, you're about to see this, this, and this. And we just made it across the board with the five percent match now, which is a lot easier for the app. So, and that's what we want. All right, great. So, I would make more from, like, income threshold. It's like, you can make set that on top, where, you know, it allows more people to kind of... We don't take that chart. It's something that is, that, uh, I believe my friend, who does it each year, and we go off what they provide, it does not nurse. And that's what we use on a new part. Oh. If I could... Yeah. So, I know we have a question. Um, on the website, where we talk about what those dollars can be utilized for, I think, um, someone said to me, and I haven't looked at it in a while, so I'm not exactly sure, where it is for exterior improvements only. Has, has, is that what we're doing only exterior? No, it's not only exterior, but it is sub-interior. I think the way it works is if your exterior scope of work caused issues within your interior part of the house, we'll help fix that as well, too. So, if I see, say your roof was leaking, it would cause a stucco where the foundation, or your foundation underneath was messed up, and then it would mess up your flooring. That exterior, interior work, we will help with. And if there are any exceptions, too, we also talked to the recipient, and we asked them, please provide us more information so that we didn't see him. That's something we can't ever catch him. Yeah. You know, something like safe. Gotcha. Someone asked me the question, and I told them if it did include other things. It does. I don't know if that needs to be clarified on why or not, or just take it one by God and whatever. We'll look at that with you. We're all excited to, right? So, so as a follow-up to that, I mean, I guess as you're looking into it, is it fair to say it's on a case-by-case scenario based off of the damage that's seen, or are there just certain things interior that are automatic? Yes, this is something that we could do. It's based on the applicant. Okay. I can't answer that. That's fair. Okay. Thank you. I actually gave some of our applicants. Awesome. Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please fill out a comment card. I still have the commercial, but that's short. Oh, I'm sorry. No, you're fine. The commercial one is short. Okay. I love it. We opted in the $75,000, and the Sierra trustees on January 12th, 2025 approved up that notch to $100,000. And that's the only change to be made to the fourth day, which was 26. 26. Oh, sorry. 26. Yeah. I don't want to go back. You don't. No. For the record, 2026. I don't want to go back. No. Okay. Not at this time, but who should you brand number of commercial bands? Okay. Question. Uh, my only question is, is, uh, if that's the only change, commercial grant still needs three quotes. Yes. Correct. Yes. It does a much larger grant, so like, yeah. Yeah. We got pieces, stewards of the non-unitual care pieces, and it's, you know, it's just that. Wow. And? And then, like I said, we do have, uh, the chair edits, and we have, uh, for those who thought of the comic card, you've already tried to book 1.4. If you allow, I'm going to ask you something for you. Yep. Good evening. Good evening. Good evening, Tony. Listen. It's all gentlemen. And I'm going to say that I am really sitting in the grant, and I want to thank you for it, and she helped me out a lot, um, with the different changes of people that, and I learned, and it was work that I could have done was, and I had my staff, and we should have taken out and shouted. Just helping. The only thing I have is, I did not know that the tax issue would come up there. It was then the application, so the only name I was there, so maybe I missed it, but I've never heard, and I didn't go until I got to find the tax that I've been taxed from the market that I can see to a town to begin. They had six hours, and I've got my tax, but I am appreciative to be so that there's a way to a bond, but that ends, so people know the time, they think that you might have this tax on the grant, and I think that's dope. Thank you. So, I'm going to jump in here, because I did receive that, that inquiry about that, on the tax implications, anybody receiving grants. Um, did we get comfort, did we get clarity on fact fiction, residing that? I know that, um, Ms. Miller, um, and I talked about that as well, and so on what it's done. I, so, um, what I'm doing with me, which, uh, probably something like that, but with, uh, legal, it used to where we had to pay directly to the contractor, but unfortunately, when we spoke to legal, we are now not into that. We have to pay directly to the applicant, so when that change was made, it was kind of during the whole switch around and, you know, letting the applicants know, sometimes the active act of fortunes, but going forward now, what we do is, we do have the initial meeting, letting them know that it will be taxed. They felt that don't be behind with us, but legally, we cannot pay the contractors anymore. We have to pay directly to the applicant, because the morantists didn't be applicant. They're the ones receiving the funds. They will receive 1099 at the end of the year that they will act, my actual very hacks, but it is, it is grant, whether they received it from the state or any other organization, it is grant funds that they would have to file, um, kind of as part of their annual tasks, but they do receive that, um, and lessons learned, right? We, we realized that those were things that our applicants didn't know up front, so we add it now as part of our initial conversation, so they are aware of that going into it. So as, as soon as that change was made, that was a part of the initial re-eventing that we ask, and that's the first thing that we tell them on the right now, that is on our checklist. Gotcha. And I know you all are not CPAs or accountants, but, um, so I know some grants are taxable and some are not. We don't know if these grants fall under taxable. I know you're getting it tonight. If you don't know, don't, you either, don't worry about it. You're just, so I just heard, and I urge you to share that with the applicants, that they may likely be taxed on this and just get with their accountant to confirm. And that, that was the issue, um, originally when the grant was created, we wanted to make it easier for the applicant, so we were making the payments directly to their contractor, their roofer, their plumber, but what we ended up finding out was at the end of the year, the person who was receiving the 1099 was the roofer for the plumber, but they weren't actually the awardee of the grant. So that's why we needed to make this change. Um, yes. So not saying that anyone would do this, but considering the fact that the person is getting the money directly, what's stopping them from taking the money and going to buy some other stuff and not actually having the work done? This is a reimbursement grant. Okay. So they have to pay for it out of their pocket first. Okay. Okay. The grant is a reimbursement grant. We do work with the applicants to, you know, they received the invoice from the contractor. We tried to make the payments as quickly to the applicant so that way they could turn around. That is a possibility. And at that point it would be an issue between the applicant and their contractor. Okay. So I haven't come across that. Right, right, right, right. So if it's a reimbursement grant and I'm stepping out on a limb here and saying that I'm sure there are people that are interested in attaining this grant because they may not necessarily have the money themselves to pay for it. So therefore, how are they supposed to pay for it to get reimbursed? So it is reimbursed. The grant is mainly reimbursed, but our exception is made by the executive director to provide, allow 50% deposit up front, but it's total work. So we pay that to the applicant, the applicant, the contractor, and then they would have to provide to approve with payant before and receive input. So they do have to provide us that they did make a contractor before able to give any woman out. And if you're asking me what happens if they don't, knock on wood, we haven't had that issue yet. So we are probably in the community as much possible providing that initial deposit up front to the applicant, they say the contractor, the contractor then provides us or the applicant provides us to bank the one you proceed. And we don't, we don't provide enough money to the school who work as a week and you present us with a pass inspection permit if permits are required. And like they said, proof payment. And then once they do do the file payment, they still have to provide the payment. Prove the payment of the first 50% in order to get the remaining. And the last, they have to provide me that they gave the contact on full. So when they pay that? Well, just, I'm going to ask that question for you. So, so, so, so, so. I'm definitely not going to have 49. Well, yeah. So, I mean, I was going to ask that question anyway, but ultimately, um, if it's a 50% up front on that case by case scenario to get the work started and, but they're still required to pay the remaining 50% before they can get the remaining 50%. If it was absent of 50%, it's been proof, being proof of payment. Uh-huh. If the scope of work is done, if that's an assumption, we will provide them with the remaining amount of money that is allotted for the grant. Okay. Okay. And then they will get the contractor, they will provide to the payment that they can be contacted. So, once again. Okay. So, Barbara Miller. Love you. Okay. She gave me an invoice from her contractor saying they needed 50% up front deposit to start the work. She provided me with that invoice. We provide her for the check for that amount. She then provided the proof of payment that she paid said contractor that amount. Scope of work gets completely done. Once that scope of work is completely done, Ms. Barbara Miller will provide me then with an invoice saying the school work was done and any other required documentation that we may need. Half section, 20 minutes, all that stuff. Then I will then provide her with a file payment to provide it to the contractor. So, is it, yes, a reimbursement grant? But, yes. But if it shows you anything, staff are really working in the community because a lot of the community can't do the reimbursement grant. So, you're providing this upfront funding. Gotcha. No, that does make sense and that does help. Now, on the, again, hopefully this doesn't happen, but what if an issue arises with the contractor, right? So, maybe the 50% is issued, the resident is able to make that payment, work starts, and for whatever reason, the contractor disappears, they do shoddy work, whatever the case may be. Like, what, what is the recourse for them through this process? Unfortunately, I have not had that faith. Okay. You can hear just reason, say, but none of that. I don't have to ask that. Hey, Sue. This is Nebo, as the CRA Executive Director. Can you give me... So, I'll go back a little bit. So, we understand access to capital is extremely extremely extremely important in our Greenwood area, and other communities, similar distressed communities, low-income areas. So, we try to tailor the grant to be as flexible as possible. Because we are a CRA, we can take bigger risks. So, there is always a risk on certain things happening, but that's not going to stop us from moving forward. So, otherwise, that doesn't ever get done. We just become very risk adverse. So, we have to make risks. We have to take chances. But, as far as the reimbursement part, there's some three-way communication between CRA, the contractor, and what does that, to make sure everyone communicates. And the contractor says, hey, give me a pass. We're going to talk to the contractor and say, hey, I was in that grant here in place. We'll be show proofs that the grant. So, that contractor also takes the risk, too, as far as don't do work. Everybody is in three-way communication. So, you know, they're going to get paid. So, that's, you know, things do happen, but it hasn't happened here just yet. We've only had one issue. It was a contractor slot event in Tusser, downtown, Park Greenwood, and as they must be guilty about that. It's commercial, but their Swiss will continue to take the risk. We'll have the lessons learned and we'll tie up those food science and still have that access to capital as much as possible. Okay. All right. Thank you. That helps. It's important to me to be sure that the process is as smooth and as efficient as possible, right? And people don't have a headache of an issue on their hands because of potential holes in the process. So, thank you. Any other questions? Well, Mr. Campbell, I've been filled out a comment card. Awesome. Thank you. My comment centers around the grant money being income. That is a tremendous exposure for individuals who are on Medicaid, Medicare. If that gets counted as pure income, they are going to lose their ability to be able to be, and in some cases that includes medication and then those doctors, hospitalization. So, that is a huge issue that needs to be figured out and addressed. Number one, how is that $25,000 counted? If it is purely income, then there are people we need to get back with like yesterday and let them know that because it's going to affect them. So, that is, uh, you know, I don't know what, I don't know. I'm not an accountant, but I'm, I am in the insurance business, but I do know if somebody gets who is a Medicare Medicaid client and they get $25,000 of income, they get nothing. Paying the board. I appreciate the comment. I will pay the board. I will trust our staff to you, like the concerns that are required on today and provide you some feedback at the later date. Is that okay? No, that, that, that works perfectly. And, and maybe right now, if possible, can you inform us the advice that was received from legal at the point that the decision was made to no longer pay the contractors? Like, what was that? What was that initial feedback? I'd have to invite for a jamming in your day or that. Okay. Okay. If I may just, we'll get with our legal division and we'll get with our finance and, um, budgeting department as well, because it's not new. You know, the CDBG funds have been around the city for decades now, as far as the investing and, uh, helping individuals fix up their home low income. So, they deal with the same process. So, we'll get, all get together and see how it works as far as implications for people's taxes and stuff. And get you an answer. I'd fairly appreciate it. We can email the entire group before the next meeting. One copy each. Let me get you the answer. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? So, let's say we get ahead of this thing and, you know, we understand the Sam can, the recipient allocate portion of these funds to pay Uncle Sam or whatever, right? That's part of the essentially reimbursement. So, they don't get price as the end of it. They have to have to go through these exterior scoval works. That's better than an outline state. Got it. So, strictly for that. Okay. So, here's another question. Thank you. Um, if, let's just say it's a, it's a grandma or grandpa and son, daughter, grandson, granddaughter, could it be possible for the grant to go to them? So, that way, grandma or grandpa don't lose. I know, I know we're getting into the lease here. Okay. Okay. But, but it's something to think about, right? But it has to be, I think the property number is. Okay. So, wherever the property number is, the property number has to be under. Okay. And it has, and it has to come set up too. So, these are all great ideas. Okay. So, we, we take a note of all these and if it's okay, I've left him about it with the service staff team and talk about work through this and talk through so many things and see what we can do. Sure. Sounds good. You know, we have a housing division in the city that's been dealing with this for decades now. So, we just have to step pretty quickly too. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. All right. All right. So, what? Okay. Showcase, uh, so, uh, uh, uh, uh, agenda item 4.5, showcase Leron Roberts, uh, North Greenwood residential awardee. Did I say your name correctly, sir? Yeah, it has to be good. Awesome. Thank you. So, I'm not H-D-U-L-E. Oh, yeah. Spelled by. And why, every time I see him, I start to be crap, it's bacteria. Um, I just want to say thanks to Leron Roberts for coming to do listening to like that, but really appreciate it. Um, it's a pleasure, was it with them? I know I perfectly can start like with the Julian in the background at the end of it. So, just thank you for taking that time towards that entire week's day and just tell him how, how much fun it was. That's how it was fun it was. Thank you so you have a video too. Yes. You are a fan. You're a speaker number of the show. It's called. Okay, Adam. Okay, um, um, I don't know if she was telling you what to say. Nope. Hello, uh, hi, Dr. Grant. Uh, uh, it's Mike here. I applied back in, uh, what, 23? You did get the agreement to like 24th of November. So, like 11 months. Uh, a lot of paperwork. Check it out. You're going to apply. You do. Keep your hands, right? A lot of paperwork, a lot of documents. Uh, they're actually your taxes, they're actually your mortgage, this, that, that. But, you know, once you get through the process, it's a very good program. Uh, I got my windows, doors, and the house data. Uh, I ended up getting like, what, $50,000. So, I think the whole brain, but I get $50,000. Um, I ended up positive extensively. Then I love Biggie. Then I got an issue I had. I just called Biggie and she solved it. Uh, you were talking about what happened. Uh, you got an issue with the contractor. I had an issue with my contractor and I called Biggie and they feared her. And then, uh, they ordered windows. One of me got broke and he was shipping and they called and said it'd be three weeks where they could put them in. Cause I didn't order one new window. I called Biggie. I don't know if he called me so we'll be able to put it in. So, he's like, no, I'm going to come in. We'll come back and put it in. So, uh, any issues, my advice is called Biggie. Uh, yeah, it's a good program. Uh, you know, uh, Billy helped me out for a year. We talked about improving our house and we just never had the money and now I didn't want those doors and a nice painted house to their bike. Things looks really good. My wife, we got covered. I didn't keep the covered. So, uh, I guess that's all I did. So, you're right here. And so, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And then there is our video. I'm always willing to support. What's the hot way? Oh, you can put this, right? Yeah, Lerani can support. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'll wait to you, sir. Hi, my name's Ron Roberts. I have been, been Dr. Ewood. Uh, we got our windows. I have five windows replaced, uh, back doors. Three doors. Because then I have to go out of my house again. Four feet? Mount. And then, uh, uh, here a bike. And then, uh, I wasn't moved for hours. I went to the library for years. Same as I'm tax-making. Get new windows, doors. And, uh, uh, house again. And then, uh, kind of, uh, talking about a team that helped me. You know? I did have to do the neighborhood. Yeah, that's part of, uh, the program was the volunteer. I think it did back then. How come we get back to the community? And then it's satisfying going in there and helping people see the whole person. You know? I tell you, don't get the neighborhood out. That's what I'm doing. And you need to do it. Okay. I do have one question for you, Vicki. Um, so if the resident chooses to do the volunteer, do they have the choice of where they do the volunteering? Or do you provide recommendations? How does that process work? I'm glad you asked that. They actually have to volunteer within the North Greenwood Sierra area. Okay. And we do have a list of some of the different volunteer organizations and, and so forth. Um, but we keep on compiling lists. So we do send it out. So anybody who knows any more of non-for-profit they'd like to add to the list, feel free to. But we do have others that we give out to the applicants. Awesome. Okay. Thank you. Okay, cute. All right. Uh, moving on to our next agenda item, 4.6. Uh, so it will be an update on the North Greenwood mural festival. Amber Bryce. Hi, everybody. Amber Bryce, the arts and quality of bears and in your city of groundwater. Just a brief update. Um, if you went into the agenda, there's an attachment for the businesses that were selected or, uh, chosen that applied for a mural. For the, uh, at least you know, festival that we're having. Um, there weren't as many applicants hoping for businesses. Um, so the businesses that were selected for Bington's Barbecue, safe haven or safe house and natural. With the proper city of house. Same house. Uh, near the belly, uh, 10 stars only. And then the, uh, African Art Historical Museum. That's awesome. It's practice interest. And then there's a couple of city of buildings that we, uh, identified as good and location for a mural. So one of them is actually the storage building right up here. Um, another one, it is the restaurant, the restaurant, like storm, um, heptagon building within Cherry Park Park. And then there is the, the pump speedification building, which technically is a fault within the CRA, but we're able to survive the pain that had more junky upstairs. Um, so this has been a business that we went down the time. Our open call for artists had closed. Um, we had a jury process for that. So about 12 Joes, Arts Alliance, Public Art Design, Missouri, uh, Kyrie, with more of others to be bad earlier, uh, with a couple of CRA methods, myself, or all Joes, so that, um, so we've identified basically a short list of candidates. We gave preference to, like, take a local, like, Fairwater right back and like, what else challenge, you know, we kind of went up in the area. Um, so the next step is our consulting is going to approach the businesses, make this short list. They're going to print artists that they want. The artist is going to create a design for that specific building. And then with the city buildings, we have, uh, kind of an opportunity where we could do a publish. So I'm look like an artist. We make one two or three designs and then we do a public for neighborhoods, but we carry sticker or box on that. But that is where we are right now. So the, so the artist will make the recommendation on what the artwork would be? Is that, do you understand that? So the, the business owner will kind of give the, the direction of what they're looking for. Okay. And they just kind of going up with the artist's style based on what they've done in the past and then they'll create a design based on what the business are, the feedback they give them. Okay. Any other questions? Yeah. You mentioned the, the list of artists. How many artists are on the list that, that are going to be doing the various projects? So we sure listed 16. Right now we have done it by an, um, I think there's eight all sudden on something. Uh, God, can I ask a particular name? Do you mind me asking? Yeah, I know a name on one of the artists just to cream in because I did, I suggest to be reached out to you. I don't know if he applies. It's 3,000. Not sure. Does that ring a bell? I don't know if I can't really name. Oh yeah, for granted it is, it can't go to what, you know, we don't, but it's not sure. I mean, I'm 27 applicants, so I don't know what I call them, but that would be. Yes. Okay. Um, yes, ma'am. My name is Barbara Soria and I have a question about the application that we put in for, for those high innovation bureau. Yes. We've reached out to principal multiple times and we have a per talk. So it's more about getting a touch with the French wall. So I should pay off the principal call you? Yes. Oh my God, it's a great wall. We just have a communication skull there. All right. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. So if you did speak to the principal, you still had my note today to get it. Yeah. Yeah. We have the funds and we have less walls than the orange lands. Yeah. So we want to paint that well then. How much funding, how many walls did you do based on the funding and happy then? So unlike the last time, the last time we did this, we gave everybody the same amount. We're not doing that this time because the walls are so vastly different in size. Um, so obviously if you're painting the storage building, you're not going to get as much as if you're painting the arts vacation builder or even the museum is this one pretty big walls. So, uh, I think they died by maybe nine to 10 to that building. Cool. Any other questions? Are you taking more, see if you have students brushing all those or? If something wants to apply, we're not, I mean, I mean, we want to start painting April 6th to the 22nd. That's the goal. So it's about can the business owner be ready and that all of the artists have said that they're available. So I can totally help you, but reach out to me for a second. Thank you. Awesome. Thanks. I kind of pleased to be surprised you became from the slides. Okay. All right. Thank you. Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you. Uh, for our last agenda item under new business, we will have a growth update from the score of Kim. Thank you. Thank you. And I brought my old banner with me. Hi, everyone. How are you doing? I'm going to get things up to the point papers. And, uh, since my 30 minutes will start like this, I've got to go again until shopping. My name is Lori Campbell. I am the executive director of the Coldwater Animal Leadership Coalition. And I'm here today to talk to you about our container village. How many of you have heard of the container village? Raise your hand. Hands. Now, you know, we're like one of these overnight successes. Have you ever heard somebody who, they've been playing all over the country for 20 years, and then they get a hit song, and they say your overnight wonder. Well, that's what people are saying about us. We've been working on this for six years. So we are frankly at the end of beginning to see this and to be rich. Uh, what Mr. Muhammad has now, it's kind of a synopsis for those who may be familiar or not with the project. Uh, we're talking, uh, revitalizing the historic North Greenwood business, Florida. For those of you who have grown up here or been here for a while, uh, you know that MLK, which used to be Greenwood, what used to be the area. Yes. We had everything along there from chicken sandwiches with buster teas to ice cream on the tail to the blue chip to United. Yes. So we had lots of businesses. Uh, we've seen those disappear, and our goal is, while we can't recreate all those businesses, we can recreate the community. Uh, we're supporting small business and entrepreneurship. We want to create a vibrant community marketplace, and we want us to restore economic opportunity within the neighborhood. Uh, the next page, we'll see a rendering. You've probably seen this a number of times, uh, what it's going to look like, or what we anticipate it will look similar to. So, with words of project, for those of you who may not know, it is on the corner of MLK and Tangerine Street. It will be a container-based retail village. We will have 10 small business spaces. The investment, uh, the city has given them about $500,000 to initially start this project. Uh, this project will probably be more completely over a million dollars. So, uh, but we thank the city for their investment. The targeted date is December the 26th, fourth quarter of this year. Can you give an amen and amen? Amen. Amen. Amen. We cannot wait. So, what is the community impact? It is to create opportunities for local entrepreneurs, restore the historic life business corporate, increase neighborhood economic activity, and support workforce and small business development. One of the other things that we will be doing is looking for opportunities to employ young people. Uh, most of us, some of us will own that from the senior program. Yes. Uh, and got our start. Uh, we learned about work ethic, we learned about showing up on time, we got a paycheck. Uh, and so we want to involve the young people. Part of this will be engaging them. We're working with the small business entrepreneurs to be able to help get young people engaged and employed. And that will help them with their staffing as well. The entrepreneur. The entrepreneur engagement event. Uh, we started back in October. We had our first Genesis networking event. Uh, and I'd like to say one of the things when we went before, uh, city council. The, the $100,000 question was, how are you going to get businesses that want to meet, uh, in this container village? Well, I'm here to tell you that problem we've been solved. We have more people who want to meet in the container village than we have, uh, locations or spots. So in October, we did a networking event. We had 16 businesses show up. Uh, February 16th, we had a business showcase where we actually invited those businesses back to do a pitch. Uh, they had three minutes. And what I tell you, it was amazing. The businesses, they came, the opportunity, how they shared their stories with us. It was so uplifting and inspiring. And so we are really, really excited. Our final business installation will be this month. And then we will be, again, the entrepreneurial training and mentorship programs. So we will, these businesses, uh, some of them are existing businesses. Most of them are new entrepreneurs. They have a business idea, uh, and they have put some work in, but we need some additional work. And so we're going to help them. Our goal is that 90% of these businesses will be successful. Our next objective is 50%. Well, when their three-year lease is up, they will be moving to larger, bigger facilities. And so that takes time, and that takes some training, and that takes intention. So that's really our goal. So this is an incubator. Some businesses will stay there, but the majority will be trained, developed, and move on to bigger and better things. So we are, our final selection, as I said, will be on 2026. We'll begin our entrepreneurial training in April of 2026, along with Knox County Economic Development and several other banks and businesses that are engaging. We also are looking for mentors for these businesses. So, uh, so if you are a business owner or you know a business owner that would be, uh, interested in mentoring some of our businesses, uh, we have the wind down, we have the juice up, uh, we have our tea bar, we have, um, uh, our, um, a couple of other businesses that have, uh, that have already been pre-selected. And so we are looking for mentors for those businesses. Again, everything we do now is to make those businesses successful. So I look forward to engaging with us and our community to become a part. If it's one thing, you know, we are good at getting people to come to our events. Thank you to this, uh, being on the tournament. And so this is another opportunity for us to make sure that we make this a success and that your community is enriched and better for it. Thank you. Um, any questions for what committee? It's an important thing. You have 16. So, Steph, what do you want to narrow it down? Yes. Yeah, some of the businesses we are going to, we'll begin to work with them. Uh, some businesses will maybe pop-ups and maybe they will be able to move into spaces as, uh, other entrepreneurs move on. Uh, but we are working with all of those businesses that whether they get a slide or not, we have opportunities for them to help to make sure their businesses are viable and we don't want anyone to feel that they want selected. We're going to provide services for them no matter what. Is this part of the 500,000 that is not all just developments of the container? Well, a good portion of it, yes. Uh, the majority of it is going to land development right now. Uh, the great thing though about the containers is that they are all self-contained. So, the beauty of this is that, uh, as we're doing the land development, uh, we, we'll be building out the containers as well. And then I guess my second part of that is the businesses take a lot of them part of it for Nubu is the incubator. Um, great ideas. I'm sure they're going to take the ground running, but then working capital becomes an issue. Are they going to be facilitated? It's like other programs for them to kind of keep this alive for the first years, you know, while, you know, we, you know, they're going to incubate the business that are there. Absolutely. Uh, yeah, part of what we're doing in terms of working with those kind of economic development, uh, the blank business investment corporation, some of the things, they will be providing working capital. Also, we will be starting a capital campaign, uh, where our program is $50,000 and that will be used for working capital for the, the growing itself. So, absolutely. Uh, most, while most of them may not have been business owners, they have been in business. And so now we just want to make them successful, uh, profitable businesses. Most of it's amazing. Most of the people who did their pitch, they are either at markets or they're doing things on Saturday and Sunday where they're marketing their products. The problem is they don't really know if they're profitable or how much money you're making. And so that's really the key to take it to a retail level. We gotta make, do some other things. Have you all, uh, selected, uh, a final deadline date to, to make the selection on the, on the companies? And, uh, if there, is there still an opportunity for anyone that might be interested to submit their, their bid for us? Uh, you know, I would, I would say, I think someone said, oh, there's always an opportunity. Uh, I definitely think that if somebody has an idea and they would like to present it at the, uh, that's, it's not too late, but of course the people who've been at the table for a while who are really kind of further along, uh, having advantage. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, part of what we want to do is we want a good mix. Uh, and so we are looking for some specific types of businesses, uh, as most of you may not know, but, uh, St. Petersburg College, uh, did a consulting agreement or, uh, management development, uh, agreement or program, proposal for us. And one of the things that they talked about were the types of businesses that would, that we should, uh, we should include. The other thing that the, uh, proposal, the consulting proposal said was that we absolutely had a great idea with the great concept and we have a lot, most of the elements that we need for this to be successful right out the gate. Awesome. Thank you. Any other questions? Uh, just one question. If someone wanted to help with mentorship, would they reach out to you? They can. Okay. And they'll want them in the right direction. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. I know him has already been reached out to. So, you know, how are the, what did they say were already pre-selected? Well, it really wasn't a pre-selection. When we really, when we started this, uh, almost three years ago, uh, we said, uh, and again, the question had been, how are you going to get business that want to come? And so we talked to different individuals. We told us what we were doing. And there were some people that said, Hey, yeah, we want a slot. We're going to put our business plan. Yeah. We're going to do a presentation. And so they weren't really pre-selected. They just happened to be the businesses that saw the vision, took the time and was willing to jump in before we even knew if this was going to be a reality. Awesome. Any other questions? Nope. No. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Sambo. Um, all right. Uh, so moving on to the next item, uh, we are going to have CRA updates by Brian Olber. We're good. Good. Good evening. I'm Brian Olber, CRA specialist. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. CRA updates for everyone. Start off with the North Ford Elementary Rebellion Initiative that the CRA in the city are partaking in. Um, just for reference, the North Ford Elementary is a historic elementary school. It's in the North Greenwood community. It is a nationally registered historic site. Uh, just recently it was featured on Fox 13 news. Um, a member of our economic development and housing team, uh, was featured in that, uh, part in Fox 13. And then, uh, a keynote of the site right now is it, uh, we're just being covered, uh, for protection and then we're going to be proceeding with, uh, seeking redevelopment proposals for that site. And then moving into the North Greenwood CRA grant funding summary metrics as reported in the CRA director's report, uh, North Greenwood CRA residential grants, uh, total funds approved, $511,390.18 cents, uh, funds day to day, all residential grants, $324,488.19 cents. And then for North Greenwood CRA commercial grants, we have $439,516.91 cents. That's funds approved. And then for funds reimbursed to $200,000, correction, $279,505.05 cents. Then just going over some metrics, uh, for North Greenwood residential grants, we have 13 staff meetings, uh, six grants that are under review, 15 that are, have been approved and are under construction, and then 18 that have been completed for commercial grants. We have four approved projects and two projects with what's completed. And then also with, um, um, the North Greenwood CRA grants, um, we're currently in the process of creating signage to be featured in, uh, North Greenwood residential brand awards properties. And, uh, I would like to thank vice chair, to determine where this wonderful IP. And I know staff would be very appreciative of that input. And then I'll also take a moment to allow any of the other city staff, if they wanted to provide CRA updates, and then, um, but the CAC would like, like to call it. Any questions from anyone? Questions? Hi. I don't have a question, but I do have a comment for something that I would like to see. Okay. Um, so as you're going over the updates and the numbers, the facts, the figures, it would be good to have something concrete. In front of you? Yes. Okay. Um, so if we can have a summary of those numbers as you're providing the update, that would be awesome. And in addition to that, um, I think it would also be valuable to have, uh, uh, an updated PNL every meeting, just so that we can see, like, as the money's coming out, we're, we're seeing the numbers. So that way we're, we're, we're keeping up in real time and we're not only looking at PNLs at the beginning and the end of the year. Does that make sense? Yeah. Awesome. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, any other thoughts, questions? Seeing none. Awesome. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you. All right. Uh, moving on to, uh, the final item on our agenda for this evening is, uh, board members to be heard. Uh, so I would like to take a moment to allow anyone that might have anything to bring up. It's just open. So, I mean, seeing, I mean, I know that you have something. Okay. Um, so I want to start off by saying, um, with the container project, I'm really excited that, um, we have had a lot of interest from a lot of the media outlets and it really helped us to get the information out about the upcoming project. And, uh, I will tell you, we made no phone calls to those media outlets. They've called us and they've expressed interest and knowing more about it. Um, and the great thing about that is it has helped other people in the community to realize a lot of times community members don't always know what's happening in their backyard. And so I'm excited about that. And more people are sharing, oh, I've heard about that container project and so on and so on. So I want to thank all of the media outlets who have found interest in, uh, in what, in what we're doing, uh, in the community. Uh, I want to also talk about, uh, we were discussing the tax, uh, liability implications for those grant recipients. And I did send something, if you don't mind, I know you're going to still do your inquiry with inside. Uh, but my captain here is shared as I asked the question about the liability for rents, home improvement grades. Um, I just want to read this if I could, and then I have one more thing, and then I'm done. And it just says, so my question was, and many need an answer about a tax application on grant recipients for home improvements. The answer was, um, he's in the middle of a pick of an event need to get this done. Okay. Uh, no, no, no question. Uh, okay. Grants are considered taxable income because they are financial gain. However, specific grants for energy efficiency or disaster relief may be exempt. So that might help for some of the folks who may have received it. Um, but anyway, we'll wait to hear back on that. So, yeah. And so, and then the last thing I want to talk about is very exciting event. That's going to be happening this week. Uh, if you've not tuned into this, I noticed they put a big sign out there because they got tired of the seniors call here asking about it. So they put a big sign out there about the event, but it is our, uh, two day elder event, senior dance. And I want to just quickly talk about, uh, why we're doing this because, um, we all know, I know that recently as I was on a commit, a panel for the Colorado Neighborhoods Coalition, Mayor Rector, um, spoke during that session. And one of the things that he said is that he, Mayor Welch and Mayor Jane Castor were having a discussion about some of, there was a report that was done and it stated that one of the biggest crises that we're facing in our country today, amongst other things, uh, is, uh, loneliness, loneliness. And so, um, for him to say that we do know that there is a, um, a, a, that, that is something that plagues a lot of our people in the community, especially our elders. And so, um, it was a segue into this event. We did this back in, um, 2023 and it was called the Vintaged Affair. Uh, and by the way, this event was something that was inspired by the, um, um, African American Leadership Council over at the Martin Luther King Center. Um, they did this several years. They did the elder banquet and they honored our elders and seniors and it was a beautiful thing. And those are the kind of things that never need to go away. Uh, we do a lot of things for our children in this community and I think that's great, but we also have to remember our elders and our seniors. So what we have done is we have worked diligently to come together to create this event, uh, is a two day event on that. On this Friday, we will do the lunch, learn and play the lunch, learn and play. Of course, we'll include lunch. We'll also go into the session where we're going to learn and we'll have a number of our sponsors and other partners who will discuss a number of things. Um, the police department will talk about avoiding scam artists because we know the scammers are always out there targeting seniors. And, uh, we're also going to have, um, uh, Perry law firm is going to be talking about state planning. These are abbreviated versions. They're not going to be long presentations. We're going to be talking about, uh, different elderly, uh, Medicaid, Medicare, um, neighborly, talking about meals on wheels and all the other services that are necessary and important to seniors. Uh, Duke Energy is going to share some information about their energy consumption program, reducing our energy consumption, uh, in ways, uh, which I, by the way, was a recipient of your services, free services that are valued up to about $5,000. If you haven't done it, I urge you to look into that. But anyway, nonetheless, uh, Saturday, Saturday is the, uh, okay. So Friday lunch, learn and, um, and then we're going to go into the fun part, the play, which is going to be the bingo. So if you've never been to a senior bingo event, it is intense. Um, and there are going to be some great prizes that are given out also during that event. And so Saturday, the next day, so they're going to go home, get some rest. And then on Saturday, they're going to come back here. All of these events are going to be held here. Saturday, when they come back, we're going to have the senior dance. Uh, we were looking to accommodate about two to 250 seniors. I want you to know, we now have to open up the entire gym because now we have over 300 seniors registered here. So, um, when I tell you for this event, it is to honor our elders, um, not only honoring our elders, um, but to create an experience that they will, um, be able to hold on to. Many times our elders, their peers have transitioned, uh, their spouses may have transitioned, their children have grown up and gone on. And this is an opportunity for us to do some great things for our seniors. So I think I said enough, but so if you haven't registered, we might be able to squeeze you in. Oh, 55 and up. I didn't say that 55 and up. I'm sorry. Yes. 55 and up. So remember that 55 and up. Um, and we will have our youth escorts who are going to be helping to serve our elders as well. Um, and bring your dance shoes. Cause we are going to be dancing. We got a live band. We have a DJ. Um, all the food is free. It's going to be a great event. We put a lot into making sure that we make this a special event for our seniors. And so, I think I got it doing the Senate thing. Okay. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you very much. Uh, definitely appreciate all the hard work that you all put in on final call. Anything else from or awesome. Well, seeing none move to adjournment, uh, 6 4 to 1 p.m.