Good evening, everyone. It's 531. We're going to call this meeting to order. Welcome to our December 3rd North Greenwood Citizens Advisory Committee meeting. My name is Bernard Robinson. I am the committee chair. I will ask that you all silence your phones, please. We're going to start with introductions to my left. Hi, my name is Anna Bernard, and I am the owner of Mr. Waterford. Awesome. Thank you. I'm Marilyn Terman. I'm vice chair. I'm also with the Clearwater Urban Leadership Coalition. Awesome. Thank you very much. So going to our first order of business is the approval of the minutes from last meeting. Can I please have a motion to accept? Yes. I just want to make one notation about it, though. regarding the getting just involved. Let me point to it so you don't know. I do this with pages and on and on, so I can make mention of that. It's under 4.3, but there are the details. Okay, got it. I see it. Yeah, it was regarding the budget that was submitted, and there were some concerns about how much advance notice we got on that. Yes. And I just wanted to say that after, with further clarification with our chair, that we were okay with that. We know that it was since approved by the trustees. Just wanted to make that notation. Okay. Thank you. So with that being said, I will make a motion to approve. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. So the motion to accept came from Maryland Terman. Can I second? The motion's been properly moved and seconded by Anna Menard. Is there any discussion? That we need? Nope. Seeing none. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Awesome. Thank you. Aye. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Aye. So let's go back to our agenda. So the third item on the agenda is citizens to be heard regarding items not on the agenda. So this is an opportunity for anyone here to speak up and say something. I may ask that you properly introduce yourself as you let us know what's on your mind. Good evening, May God. Yes, my name is Barbara, and I am the president of the Clifford African-American Foundation. This is my first meeting, and I've got, this is my first meeting, and I have questions about the historic preservation of landmarks and spaces here in the North River area, and I want to know if those have been addressed. That's my question. Awesome. Thank you very much for your question. And so to date, they have not been discussed, but that is something that we can definitely be sure to add to our agenda. So if there are particular points that you would like for us to discuss, Ann, would she submit that to you for the agenda? Yes, you can send that to me, and then we can talk with the chair, getting it on the next meeting. Do I submit it to you tonight or in an email? In an email. Yes, I will need a comment card from you for tonight. Okay. Yes, thank you. Awesome. Thank you very much. Does that answer your question? You good? Yes, I'm good. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. Any other items to be brought forward? Okay. Thank you very much. Seeing none, we will move on to the next item of our agenda. So under the new business, we are going to appoint new officers for the committee for this year. So the first one we are going to go for is... Chair. For the chair. Boom. So we're going to go up here. Board members and local members, just for the record. So what you have before you are ballots to select members for the chair, for the position of chair. I would like to just briefly read the description. It is in the CFC policies, but just for the record to describe the position of chair for the committee. The chair shall have the authority to decide points of order and will run all agenda items. Any ruling by the chair may be reserved by a majority vote of the CAC. The chair shall preserve order and may call to order any member who violates any of the rules. They shall decide all questions of order subject to a majority vote on a motion to appeal. The chair shall recognize all members who speak before under the procedure, and they shall not make or second a motion. The chair shall maintain an effective working relationship with the CRA director designated liaison or representation. The chair shall guide the CAC in its advisement of the community needs consistent with the North Greenwood CRA plan and state law to the CRA director designate the CRA trustees and the city. From time to time, the chair or the CAC approved designee shall be required to report updates to the CRA trustees and or city council. Are there any questions? No. No. Okay. So, if you could please make, on your ballot, just one ballot for your vote for position of chair for the North Greenwood Citizens Advisory Committee, this will be for the 2026 year. And then we will have staff. Okay. We have a vote. So, the position for chair for the 2026 year will be to Kennard Roberts. Thank you very much. Congratulations. All right. So, moving on to the vice chair position. Correct. This one's a lot shorter. Okay. So, the vice chair will serve in the absence of the chair. Should the chair be unable to attend any meeting or need to refuse themselves from any vote that comes before the CAC, the vice chair will serve in that position. So, there are ballots in front of you. Again, if you could please make one vote and then staff will collect votes. Thank you. Okay. Position of vice chair has been appointed to, for the 2026 year, to Ms. Marilyn Terman. Congratulations. Congratulations. Awesome. Thank you. Congratulations. Awesome. Well, thank you all very much. Definitely looking forward to a phenomenal year, helping in the work to get you forward. So, moving on to the next point on our agenda is provide recommendation for negotiation of funding respects for 1105 caucus fee. So, do we add? Yes. We have Dylan Mayne here. He is the city's housing manager. We'll provide an update on this item. Of course. Yes, I'm Dylan Mayne here. I'm the housing manager. I'll give a brief update on the negotiations. But first, I'll kind of give a little bit of history. In October of 2023, the Community Redevelopment Agency purchased 1105 Carleton, that's the parcels on the southeast quarter of MLK and Carleton Street, for $350,000. While the purchase price exceeded the independent appraised value, the acquisition was made as a proactive strategic investment to support redevelopment within the MLK corridor and encourage catalytic private investment in the area. Following the acquisition, the CRA released a request for letters of interest to solicit proposals for the redevelopment of the existing mixed-use building located at 1105 Carleton Street. This structure is approximately 2,440 square feet. It is in need of substantial rehabilitation. The CRA's preference in the solicitation included proposals that would preserve the existing building, incorporate mixed-use elements, and then also provide income-restricted units. The CRA received one response, those submitted by Tampa Bay Neighborhood Housing Services. The CRA previously budgeted $500,000 for this project and council-authorized staff to enter into negotiations with TBNHS. After a period of review, TBNHS has now provided an updated development package, that's what you have there, and that amount does exceed the originally-budgeted level. Given these revisions and this revised financial projection and the potential for this project to serve as a transformational investment, staff is requesting guidance from you all on how to proceed. Specifically, we are seeking direction on whether the board would prefer to do one of the following. Support the project at the revised funding level, or recommend a different level of CRA participation if the current funding request is not acceptable. In summary, staff believes the proposed project has strong potential to create positive neighborhood change, aligned with CRA's vision for the corridor. However, because the project now requires higher investment than originally anticipated, staff is requesting a period. But with that, I do have a follow-up for Craig Cornier with Tampa Bay Neighborhood Housing Services. I'd be happy to address that. So just to be sure that we're all understanding, so you said that the original approval was total of $500,000. Sorry. And now we're looking at $1.345. The original amount from the CRA was budgeted at $500,000. The CRA's contribution would be $701,852. That's not what I want to hear, right? It's not. It's an agenda item. Their original proposal had the city bringing more funds. However, because we're using federal funds, we have to abide by HUD's guidelines. And so the max for us at the city is $468,348. It's for the two units upstairs. If you subtract that off the city side and add to the CRA side, that puts the CRA side in $701,852. So essentially, to progress with what they've proposed, we'd be looking at an additional $200,000 from CRA. Thank you. We're doing the presentation today. Frank, did you want to say any words? Sure. Frank, 48, Tampa Bay Neighborhood Housing Services. Frank, 48, Tampa Bay Neighborhood Housing Services. Just thank you for the opportunity to be here for you today. We've been in this area serving up Greenwood to South Greenwood since 1979. We are part of a national affiliation to the organization by the name of NeighborWorks of America, which are the best of communities in Greenwood, South Greenwood. We're involved with community economic development, affordable housing, and helping families get out of poverty and increase their wealth, their family wealth. We had the opportunity to prepare a poll for this property. We're not unfamiliar with this type of work, we've been doing this work for many years. We decently rehabbed our office at 608, North Greenwood. It's a full draft rehab. This project is a lot more extensive, it's two stories. It's also filled with structural issues that we have at our office. It would have been less costly to demolish this building and build something new, but we understand that the residents of the Saver Red wanted to keep that building because of its historic value and nature and time. And because we don't want North Greenwood or North Mountain to look like a war zone with a bunch of vacant lots where properties once stood. So we put a proposal together. The original report on this fact in 2023 was that it was going to cost a little over a million dollars. We know that the cost of everything just shot up since then, spent a couple of years. And by the time we actually get to do this, it may go up a little bit as well. Our numbers are based on estimates from our design professionals, but we feel that we can keep the numbers where they are and get the numbers to work with some value to engineering. But we think we can make the project work. We are proposing to keep Frick's Floor as roofing space. We have a potential tenant that has expressed interest in the regiment space for office space. And then the upstairs would house two one-bedroom Perkins. We know that there's a shortage of smaller units in North Greenwood. Actually, Canelo Stallion's whole smaller units are hard to come by. So we build quite a bit of three-bedroom colleges together to be able to cast the rise. We've probably built most of them in this state a bit recently. But there's a shortage of smaller units. So they're proposing to build two one-bedroom units. Ms. Shannon, our design concept would incorporate, what we would like to do is incorporate a balcony on the front. Those units going down to North Park, Windsor King. It wouldn't be a huge balcony, but it would be big enough so that it gives it a design element and gives it some trajectory on the front, so it's how it does go. So you don't have any questions for me? Well, Frank, could you maybe speak to just your vision, or I guess a little bit more in depth of how the redevelopment does just fit a bit with the community from a visual perspective, right? But maybe more of an investment. Yeah, this project would, in my eyes, in our eyes, would be a cabinet, would be a shot in the yard. I don't know that there's been any new commercial space, and you can say you will probably correct me on this, as well as the residents. There probably hasn't been anything new that's been built commercially in that area for quite a long time. We know that it is a large amount of money to put into a building, but we also know that the private market doesn't pay a lot. Sometimes it takes a project like this to catalyze, to get things started in the neighborhood. So this investment would help start that, would help jump start to redevelop the process in this neighborhood. We have other land that we own, we know that the CULP has some space that wouldn't be developed. Tater products as well, so this would add to that, and it would just complement everything else. We looked at the charrette that was done a few years ago and incorporated some of the concepts of that. And again, this will be a catalyst in this neighborhood, and it needs, we know, for many, many years, residents have been hearing, we got your back, we got your money, let's do this, but nothing's been done at all. So I think that this will be a shot in the yard and say, we're committed to doing this, and it has sparked their best opinion that we'll be here. I have a question. Mr. Goodfair, is that my address, simply? Just a moment. Mr. Well, we can open it up to the floor for questions, Brenda, first, does anyone on the committee have any questions? You said you had somebody interested in the commercial space already? Yes. What kind of business is interested? It's a non-profit. Or is it? Non-profit. Okay. That was fine. Okay. I do have a particular question, just to, and this isn't necessarily directly towards Frank. What I see here, we have the rental property analysis and operating budget. So how does this play a role in this body's decision making? Right? Is it, are you just showing us this is the potential for it when it's finished? Well- Are some of these dollars coming back to this? Yes, this is the, so typically there's a development budget and then there's an operating budget. So when you're evaluating whether something is going to be feasible, you definitely look at the development budget and see if the sources and uses offset each other if they're covered. But you also want to make sure that you're putting money into a building that is not going to come back and say we need more money because we can't operate. We're operating in the red. So this is to show that after collecting a breadth of red is enough to support the first mortgage that will be on there and still have, I think, a positive cash flow of about $300. But we also take into consideration that this is going to be one of the first commercial spaces and it's a small property, it's only three units. So one vacancy and one of the units can disrupt the budget, so there's a little pay for that in the budget. Okay, so to put it simply, once we work to approve this, if we do approve this, they're saying that development starts, project is finished. The way that the numbers have worked out on the rental property side will be enough to continue to fund the building and make sure everything is going the way it needs to go. So therefore, technically speaking, if everything goes well, you wouldn't need any more money from the CRA because the building is funding itself. That's the reception. That's great. Okay, I just wanted to be sure that everyone was aware of. Okay. Any other thoughts, questions? Sorry to dive deeper on the nonprofit question, but like, you know, that could mean various things. Like, is it to help the community? Is it like a food shelter? What kind of nonprofit is this business? It's community development. Okay. Yeah, it's a nonprofit that's already serving the community. Okay, gotcha. They're already serving the community they want to move closer to. That's great. And be in here. Okay, perfect. I do have one question. How many square feet is the capital space? Neither in the square feet. The building is a total of 1,800 square feet, nine square feet, each full. I'm sure I left you down the question. I did. Just wanted to put it on. It was the 1,75. That was, I wasn't just seeing this one. We just received this tonight. That's a good spill here. The 1,75 additional is what we're adding to it? No. That would be the first. The 500. That would be what's making me bigger. So, your regional line is 500,000 to the CRA. That is. That's now seven. It'll be at seven. The budget from the CRA as proposed would be 701,852. Okay. Yeah. What page are you looking at? Right here. Okay. Okay. Thank you. That's what I need to know when you're looking. That number is on the agenda item. It's not in that package. Okay. That's his submission. Okay. So, he submitted with the city, the housing card to put more money. We're restricted by a per unit maximum subsidy. And so, that subsidy is 468,348. So, if you adjust the housing, the city side and the CRA side accordingly, then that brings the CRA side up to 200,000, 200,000. Okay. So, we don't have to put this out for rebid or anything like that because of the change that we're asking. Okay. Let's face it. Director, if I may. Yes. So, right now what we're doing is we brought it before you because what you mentioned, as you know, we have $500,000 budget already for improvements with building, plus the land of the building, lots of other wonderful stuff. But, because that $200,000 increase that we're coming to you, it's going to be dated. It's a wide investment approach to invest $200,000 more. So, we can take it to the trustees for them to either approve or not. Okay. Awesome. Thank you. Are there any other questions from the committee? All right. So, we're going to take a moment to open up to the committee for questions. Just a reminder, please be sure to fill out a comment card. Yeah. So, are there any other- You need to request a motion first and then you can open it up to the committee. All right. Thank you very much. So, where we are right now, we need a motion to approve. So, just for clarity, this would be a motion to recommend the increase for what is being proposed, which would be for the additional $201,852 over the CRA amount that we have budgeted. By recommending approval, then staff will work to take this item forward to the CRA trustees to enter into negotiations. Just for clarity of what the motion is being asked for for today's agenda item. Thank you. Do we have a motion? Since I'm, you know, I'd like to defer to you guys. Okay. You know, because you guys sound like you've had a little bit more history on this. Yeah. Yeah. If I could. Yes. I'll make a motion. Move forward the recommendation. Move forward the recommendation. Move forward the recommendation, but I wouldn't let the other questions you'd send them. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We'll definitely have time for more discussion. Yeah. Do we have a second? Can I? Okay. The motion's been properly moved and seconded. So now that we have that, we can open up the floor for any community questions or comments. Do you have to give me the card first? I have the question. No. No, but you don't have to give the card first. We can get. Okay. The property that he's speaking of, Level 5, Carlton. I think you mentioned something about the historic value of that area. Did you confirm that that is the old Robert Nichols, Greenwood, Suddrichs? It is. You were going to ask a question earlier. Think about the address. The address is not 1105. I think at one point it twisted a little vibe of it's on the record as an allocation. Okay, so once the property is built, what will be there to notate or indicate that it is a historical landmark? Was that an address? Yeah, that's a great question. One of the things I've asked for is to see this old photos of the building. So I've reached out to the city's real estate part of it. I've reached out to the historical society. I've looked at myself. I find photos down the street, but I don't find any specific photos of this building. I would love to find a photo of Estonia. I would love to showcase that building. And I would love to see if there's elements of that old building that we can incorporate into the relation. I haven't come across. Is anyone ought to reach out to the family, the surviving family members? Not yet. That hasn't been a recommendation, but I would love whatever recommendation or whatever context between it has. Because it can't be the well to be at the appropriate photos or see if they're signing all of this to be this part right into the run. This isn't the design. I did not collect a lot of coming car, but I can certainly speak to that. Because for two years we worked with the family to get the property purchased by the city. So that it did not, we did not have to compete with the developer for it for the project we're planning on that same space. So I did reach out to the family contact to see if they in fact had any memorabilia photos or whatever. And they're in the process of trying to update that. And after a lot of coming. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Yes, ma'am. I have a question. You said that the downstairs is a business that's already in the community that wants to relocate. So are you going to say how that business helps the community? Partial. And you're not at your liberty. It's a name in the city already. Any community. So I guess my question is. Okay. They're already in this meeting and they're in this meeting as well. It's Clearwater Urban League. I didn't want to say that, but they gave me permission to go ahead. Yeah, I just wanted to go down. Yeah. As far as with them, the benefit. Yes. How can the community benefit? Are you familiar with the work that Clearwater Urban League is publishing does? Yeah. Okay. So they deal with you with that. Anyone else? Yes. Okay. Seeing none. So yes, there might be a point of order. So you might have to recuse yourself. I'm sure there's a conflict there because of the entity that's going into 10 people to the first floor. You will still have three individuals here to vote. No, I wouldn't. No? No. Because Kennard would have to recuse himself. That's right. Part of the Tampa Bay Neighborhood Coalition for Tampa Bay Neighborhood Housing Services. And Ms. Turman would have to recuse herself as well for being a member of the coalition, which means that I wouldn't have enough to make a vote for this item. Yeah. It seems like we most likely have a census. Yeah. So we have consensus. We can take it forward to the CRA trustees, but we wouldn't have enough members to make a vote for this. Okay. So at this point, does that end our conversation? Yes. Okay. All right. Well, thank you, Frank. Thank you. All right. So our next agenda item, the presentation of North Greenwood Overland District update. This is Lauren Maskey. She's the city's planning and development director. She'll be providing updates on the North Greenwood Overland District. She didn't end our maps to look better, but just got it done real quick. Thank you, Mary and Sam. Thank you. Taken from the CRA. Underbellable. That doesn't mean. Begin. Super. TPL. Let me talk to the experts. Thank you. I have to give extra as a key phone. Hats are out there, but I know it's a bun. Thank you, Terry. That's right. Okay. I'm going to say what I probably know. Cool. So, hi. Good evening. Lauren Maskey. I'm director for Planning and Development. When we started this project, I was not director for Planning and Development Department. I was assistant director, and we had several other people involved at the time. So, it's been a little while since I've been able to catch up with everyone. And, unfortunately, due to storms last year and some other things going on in our department, the work that we were doing was based on hold for a little while. And so, I guess I should start with, what is the work? Not everyone in this room or even on the board has been involved with that. So, our department worked on the CRA plan, which was adopted, and everything got established. And one of the next implementation pieces of that was to develop new zoning standards for the properties in the North Greenwood CRA that are not part of, already, the downtown zoning district. So, that's what's loosely shown on this map. This area down here is in the CRA. This corner down here, it's in the CRA, but it's already governed by our downtown zoning district. So, it would not be part of this. We had worked through some of that with the community. And, for those who participated, it was just after Labor Day last year that we had a really great meeting where we got to play with the model houses and buildings and map out sample blocks and really kind of make sure that we were aware of the vision and we were really working towards achieving that vision of, you know, any new developments in the North Greenwood area. So, what's unique is you have great lot structure, you know, some bones still here. And most of what, you know, the community voice to us that we've heard was, you know, really some pieces that, you know, really some infill pieces, some residential within the residential. The term gets used sometimes missing middle housing. It's the, you know, single family homes, duplexes, triplexes, townhouses that still have smaller in scale to really match and fit in with the existing fabric of the community. Along Martin Luther King, it was, you know, it's better enabling the mixes of uses, more of a historic main street. And then we have kind of some of the other areas that, you know, are part of the CRA, but, and part of work for you, but kind of broader or further out from the core of it, I would say. And it's got a slightly different character, but overall is primarily residential with some opportunity for some commercial or infill there. So, that is unfortunately where we left off at the time because, you know, fast forward a couple of weeks later, we had a few hurricanes. So, and we, we've regrouped as a team, we've been working on the, what the regulations are, right? So, what do we need to put in our community development code so that when new development happens, it actually matches what, what we've heard from the residents that they want. It's kind of a bureaucratic process once it gets to this part. This is where it sausage ships made because we're writing all sorts of things like buildings must be set back only this, or they can only be this tall, or they have to have porches or things like that. I'll speak to it at a higher level. The goal is to not make it too complicated. We want it to be understandable by people. We would like, you know, the possibility of property owners being able to just add on to their, their places. The goal is, you know, to, again, to have that infill, not wholesale redevelopment like we may want in other areas of the city, but we don't want that here. We want, you know, more people coming in and, and, and investing in the area, but, you know, trying to make sure that the property owners, that people who are already here have the ability to do what we want. Um, so there's multiple pieces that have to come together from the regulatory standpoint. And we're at the beginning of that. There's, this is a little tutorial in planning. There's a few different designations that a property has, what is called your future land use. And that's the designation that says how much you can do on your property. How many dwelling units can you have? Or if you're a non-residential property, how much floor area can you have based on the size of your property? The, the next piece is the zoning and that's the nitty-gritty. That's what, you know, people are familiar with. Like I said, setbacks. How much parking do you have to require? You know, how, how tall can your building be? Other, you know, do you need buffers between commercial uses and non-commercial uses? Things like that. There's also just even bigger picture policy direction. So that's done through the city's comprehensive plan. So what we've done is start the policy side because that takes the longest to get through all of the public hearings and process. What we will be doing is creating what's called an overlay district. So if you are already, you know, have a residential zone, you'll stay in that same residential zone. If you have commercial zone, you'll stay in that commercial zone. But there will be kind of this, well, overlay, but an additional opportunity for the property owners. And that's what don't get shown in much nicer form than these red lines. But it shows up on maps. It's like hash logs, right? It just says, hey, there's something different here, but everything below is what's already there. We have to work within constraints of, you know, Florida statutes. And we can't make things more restrictive. We wouldn't necessarily have wanted to, but this helps us abide by those statutes, too, because it's not that you have to do something different. It's if you want to do something different and utilize these new tools that we have, this is what you would follow. And so those new tools would be some additional development potential, like a density bonus. So I don't remember all the numbers exactly, but a little bit more density will help you get that second unit on a smaller lot, right? If your property is too small, you may only right now be able to build one unit where you want two. We've heard that two is considered compatible with certain design parameters. So we want to enable things like that. From a commercial standpoint, you know, sometimes it just takes a little bit more floor area to make things mapped out. Mixed use. We're going to tweak some of the uses because it's much more difficult to do a mixed use project right now because you have to do all the math and make it work because you have to fit both the residential fees and the non-residential fees on that safe piece of land. So it's usually very difficult and constrained mathematically, but it's what we want. So we're going to try to, we're removing those hurdles. From the public hearings, you're going to start seeing things on city council's agenda. Actually, the next step will be the community development board, which is a board that makes a recommendation to city council in a similar way that this group does. And we'll be presenting to them some of the policies that'll be changed in the city's comprehensive plan to create this overlay. And it'll be called a planned redevelopment district overlay. So it'll have that structure and it'll show what those density bonuses would be, but it's still, again, at that higher level policy side. We'll also be taking forward the map amendment to the future land use map to apply this overlay, which is like this map here. You can't do anything with it until the other pieces come along. But procedurally, we have to take it to the community development board. We have to go to city council for a first reading. Then at this level, state agencies review it. It has to go to the board of county commissioners' approval. Then it has to come back to city council for a second reading. So it is a many month process. And we did not want to lose any more time than we already have. So we were feeling pretty comfortable about the policy side, knowing that we're still working on the details of the zoning. And that's what we'll see. I mean, we've been working on it. But that's what you'll hear from us about next. But if you see a public meeting notice and it talks about North Greenwood, a planned redevelopment overlay, that's what this piece is. Won't be any changes until everything's contingent upon everything else. So outreach, since we haven't seen y'all since September of last year, we're going to beef up what we had intended, right? We had planned on just, you know, get the code written and we come back out with the community, make sure at that time that, you know, it would have followed just a few months behind so everyone would have been fresh. We're going to add a few more meetings, either virtually or maybe a couple in person. We're still hatching that out with our consultants, but we'll be getting those on calendars like early next year. There's no way to squeeze it. No one wants one more thing on their calendars, I bet, this month. And that wouldn't be fair to anyone. It's not appropriate to do meetings during the holidays anyway. So January, February, we'll be getting the word out. We'll be getting those on calendars. We typically use a wide variety of methods, providing handouts. We can work with the coalition to provide handouts like we've done in the past. We put the changeable message board signs out for meetings. We, in the past, we've sent postcards. I think that's worked well. And since it's been a while, I think we would like to do that. Send them out both to the property owner and to the address. Sometimes those are different people who own it versus to living there. We want to include everyone as possible and invite them to come to that meeting. So we would be doing an overview of where we were and then what we've got. Because we're not ready to take it to the council. We need to validate it. You know, this is the group that needs to validate it. So we'll be coming through doing that, going back, making final changes to make sure that our language reflects what everyone wants. And then we'd be starting the public hearing process on that. And that would be, it's more consolidated. Everything still goes to multiple hearings. It goes to the community development board and then the city council. And the goal is that they all finish at the same time. So policy piece goes to the state, comes back to council. Oh, I just said stuff. Goes to the state, comes back to council, goes back to the state. Then it's done. The code and everything like that, all this is going on and all the bureaucrats are reviewing things. We'll be getting through everything with the community and they're taking back straight to city council because they have the authority to approve that. And like I said, in the end, people will have options. Not, it won't be mandatory. You can't make it mandatory to say that. Like I said, because we want to have things like some, some design standards, nothing to make it too expensive to build, nothing to make it too crazy. But, you know, sometimes it's, you know, porches a little bit more of that type of development where appropriate. And we said that mixing of uses, things like that, for giving people more options. And if you want the additional density, then you'd have to follow the new standards. If you want to build with what you're allowed to do now, you can fix it. You have to do that. So that is a lot. A little bit of a planning primer while also going over where we're at. I'm really excited to finally be getting momentum again on this. We had such great community outreach. We actually, in the interim, used your pictures and presented at a conference this summer about the outreach that we did here. And got to break out all the pictures and things like that because it's just, it was such a fun, fun time for me. I hope it was for the two right to the perfect pace. So I can answer questions or whatever is appropriate. Any questions for me? I do. Yes, Sam. So, once you go through this process, I'm just wondering sometimes, and I understand it goes from here, back there, back here, back there, over there, and all of that other stuff. And then we part. Right. Okay, gotcha. Right. But have you, are there ever times when you have to, maybe you missed something that can, is there a way to revise some of those things after all of that? Probably not. Well. I just wanted to know if there's, has that ever happened? Oh. In Canada. I think like, well, at a very high level, I think, you know, you're writing code, you're writing policy and everything like that. And you put it out there, and the first few projects are your test cases, and you hope that you got it right. If you get feedback from the community, which you usually do, the developers are going to tell you what they think pretty honestly. You know, we can always revisit and make an amendment. The more difficult thing would be to amend the future land use case. The piece that has to go to the stage and still have to go to the state. But as long as, as long as those numbers are correct, we can tweak the other stuff. One thing I miss in all of that, what our consultants have been doing, is where we left off with the code, they're now doing some test cases. So they're, they're doing sample developments on certain parcels that we've kicked. We actually use, you know, some of the projects that have come through and double checked. And we're like, if these are projects being proposed, we want to make sure that we're not writing a code that can't support these products. Which would be horrible. So they're really trying to test like a parcel here and there kind of scattered throughout. So we get all different parcel sizes, residential mixed use development, things like that also. But yeah, amendments are just part of it. So, you know, you, or if things were to change, we're like, you know what, no one wants a porch anymore. But as a really weird example, we could just make that optional, so to speak. Sure. Thank you. So I do have a question. It's, if this, this is semi-related. Shepard out there. So, so the, I, I don't know all there's on the topic, but I know there's been conversation around like the Live Local Act. Yes. And how that impacts zoning and usage and potential work grounds or whatever that looks like. Sure. Right. Can you speak to some of that and how that might impact this or maybe it might not have impacted at all? Well, so the Live Local Act allows for certain affordable housing projects to be built in certain zoning districts where it might not already be allowed. Um, I'm going to say primarily, primarily the commercial zoning district, but there's a few others that qualify in the city. I just can't remember them off the top of my head. So commercial would be anything that's red on this map just so, so that makes it a little easier to see geographically. And, and it allows you to build to the highest density otherwise allowed in the city. So that happens to be our downtown residential density of 75 dwelling units per acre. So someone could hypothetically purchase some of these commercial properties and build at that. There's other provisions in there regarding the height. It's, it's typically, at least as of the last, I don't, I don't, there were a couple of changes made this legislative session, but I can't recall. But it was previously the maximum height within a one mile radius of the parcel. So we would map that and see where that is. If you're within one mile of downtown, you know, you get some pretty substantial heights there. Um, but you still have to fit everything. It just because you, it says you can do it doesn't mean you can do it physically on a site. So, um, we've only had two Live Local projects come through anything at this point. Um, but you know, our efforts are hopefully to make things a little easier for people to do more with their property. So that's not the only option. Gotcha. Awesome. Thank you. We have a, we have a memo online that explains how the Live Local Act gets applied in the city of Clearwater, but it does not capture this most recent legislative session. We're still tweaking it for those changes. Okay. But if you were to go to MikeClearwater.com and search Live Local Act, it would pull it up. Okay. Awesome. Um, any other? 14. Okay. Um, so this item requires no motion. So thank you very much. You're welcome. I'll continue to provide information slash ask to be invited back to the meetings going forward now that we're getting back to it. Just soon. Awesome. Thank you. All right. We're going to the next item on our agenda. CRA update. The 10 will dance. Yes. The 10 will dance. Yes. So we do have a couple of updates toward the committee. Um, Monday we had a CRA meeting. There were a couple items that came forward at that meeting. One of them was for approval for the North Greenwood CRA Art Oasis mural. That was an item that came for you at your last meeting. Um, Amber Bryce, the city's cultural affairs manager presented that. And on Monday, she and I presented that to the CRA trustees for financial approval. They did approve the funding for that program. So very happy about that. We can start working with, um, Janae Creeby, who's the consultant that Amber is working with. Um, so, um, what I am just doing is getting the information out to both the board and the public that's here attending. If there are any commercial buildings within the North Greenwood CRA that, um, would like a mural or the board knows of any of that could be great potential locations for a mural that would be came by the CRA. If you could please give them my information or Amber's information, we would love to get the consultant out there with serious stuff to talk with them about this program. Um, the next item that I have for you again, is just to let you know about our North Greenwood residential and commercial grants that we offer. Those are still going strong. We have received, uh, over 40 applications that have gone through CRA stuff for the North Greenwood residential grant. So grant that program has been, um, in for a little over a year. So the fact that staff has reviewed over 40 residential grants, um, and those have all are either have received funding are approved or going through the process. Um, for us, I think is a really great thing for the community. One of the other things that I'm very excited about is to introduce the new face to the CRA. Ms. Marilyn Brown started with us two weeks ago. So she's been, uh, very fortunate. She's been her very first day. She got to attend a CRA trustee meeting. So I think that's a really great way to start and a great way for us to welcome her to the CRA. Um, so I would like to just hit her on the floor for a couple of minutes to introduce herself and her background and, um, just share that with her. Well, thank you to the team that, um, has been so gracious and welcomed me in the past two weeks. Um, the past two weeks has been filled with, uh, learning and, um, absorbing a new topic to me. I am a resident of this community for over 40 years. Um, for the past 10 years, I've worked for St. Petersburg College as a business relationship manager, building relationship with business and, um, ultimately trying to get our students to work, um, better lives, better jobs, as some of them may not waste a lot, though. Um, but I look forward to serving our community in a totally different capacity. I look forward to helping. So we are very excited to have her on board. Uh, she brings, it feels that, that, um, both Jesus and myself are very excited and we can't wait to get around to the community to, to bring all those to life. Um, the only other thing that I have for you, um, and I don't want to take away from Miss Marilyn's thunder, if she was going to bring it up, um, was to talk about, um, the amazing presentation that was brought forward between the, uh, St. Petersburg College and the Colorado Urban Leadership Coalition. So that was a really great, uh, partnership, um, that Audra Ahar, our economic development manager, brought forward. And so we're very grateful for what she was able to bring forward. So if your plans were to talk about that, then I will let you do that. I think the other, I'm just, I'll just, I'll just add two. Um, so St. Petersburg College, they, uh, we were able to partner them with a nonprofit. Uh, they came to us, Dr. Andy Rojas, who is the, uh, college, with the College of Business at St. Petersburg College. Um, he wanted to find a nonprofit within the community that maybe we knew that could use some resources. And so he put together a team of students that were going through and, you know, were able to really utilize their skills, um, to help the coalitions come together and create a action plan, so to speak, for, uh, the shipping container, the Grove at 1105. Um, so that was presented on Monday. So if anybody is interested in taking a look at that, that was presented at Monday's, uh, CRA meeting. So we can take a look at the presentation. And then with that, I do not have any other updates, unless the board has questions for me. Do you want to have questions, Karim? Well, I can say one thing, like, if I make, he wanted to go after his business without time. We directed it from Pierre. He's in the operating way. And we're very appreciative. Um, that can jump over here. Absolutely. Go for it. Chair's meeting. And we're appreciative because the fact that what we're looking at doing would be, um, getting your groove on at the road. Oh, sorry. Um, is the fact that we're going to be, uh, it's going to be a place where we're going to have all of these businesses who are running the house there. So though this may not have been one individual business, business downtown, you know, we've got 10, uh, future businesses that are going to really benefit from the amazing information. They did some deep diving, uh, in this, uh, research that they did. It was just, um, and it was, it was great. And I'm excited. And let me tell you, I always say it's important that business owners get a good start. Uh, because many times they have grand openings and grand closes within close proximity because they didn't get a good start. And so I think the information that they provided us, not only just showed us that we were, we were many of those things, we were already there. So it was good as a confirmation, but areas where we, where we, uh, may not have considered a couple of things, uh, left the guerrilla marketing was phenomenal. Y'all will hear more about that. Check it out on the website. Um, and, uh, but it was phenomenal and, um, just, um, just honored you were being able to receive that. And so just thank you. And, uh, the CRA, thank you to, uh, to our trip. Yes. And for you all allowing us that, that privilege to receive that amazing service. And, and, and those students were awesome to find a way. And you just wanted to give them the next blood for a boy that done. Yes. Good deal. Great. Awesome. Um, thank you, man. Appreciate the updates. Um, so moving on to our, our last item, uh, board members to be heard. Is there anything that we want to watch it bring forward? Okay. How did you go first? Uh, I apologize for being tardy. Um, but I don't know if you guys had entered opportunities, but I'm brand new here, um, and, uh, excited to be part of the community. Um, I own a local business, uh, in the area, so, uh, uh, happy to be part of the development. I love what's going on with the Grove. I checked it out. Um, I, my business is all about fun. So, um, I love that, uh, this looks really fun and want to help the community. Um, and, uh, really looking forward to be a part of this, part of this, uh, this team. Welcome. Can you tell us your name? Oh, my name is Jason Corbin. That's right. I don't have a fancy one yet. And my business is a golf cart dealership. So we do sales service and rentals, a lot of fun stuff. And, uh, you've probably seen them around town. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. I believe that's divine orchestration. We need some golf carts in this community. I love it. So, um, yeah, basically I just want to, um, you know, I'm just curious. Uh, I'm downtown Sierra. I know it's different than ours. Um, those dollars, are we able to utilize? We are not. I do are not, ma'am. I'm very sorry. I knew the answer. I just want to make sure you remember. Oh, I know the answer. So, uh, just curious. Just some of the things that we're looking at doing in the future. Just looking at maybe some other classes. We know they have more money than they can spend. So we just started. Okay. All right then. So, um, other than that, um, just, uh, excited about where we are with this project. Um, you can see the, uh, we're, we're getting closer. Um, summer's right around the corner. Lots of, there's some upcoming dates that we're going to have with some of the, um, the business network. And we had our first session. Um, and, uh, we were able to, uh, some of those potential tenants who are going to be in the, in the container, uh, village. We're there, but we have some ideas coming up. But also to, you know, about San P college. We know that for the first one, we got some great publication. Uh, but it was not came into the story. Ms. Corey did a great historical, uh, background on, you know, how we got here, what's going on. And so people can see where we're going and all of the good stuff. But, uh, yeah. So I guess that's real. Is there a list of proposed businesses or anything out there? I didn't, I didn't see that yet. No, it's, it's not out there. Okay. It's not out there yet. However, um, after the presentation by the college students, uh, we're really looking at, uh, some things that we may do differently, um, because that composition of businesses needs to be something that will, uh, benefit the container that will be sustainable. Um, and so those things that will complement the effort of the whole. I keep, you know, economic. Awesome. Yeah, absolutely. Show me. Sure. I'm done. Yeah. Anything? Nothing? Okay. So one thing I do want to bring forward is actually there was that headline that I saw, maybe an hour before, right near this morning, the clocked northward. And that the city is, I guess, opening up proposals for the redevelopment of that property. Sorry, knowing that the property is within the CRA. Um, I would like to know how can you be sure to the best of our ability that we are called a, um, as they say, when developers can't select, they're from, or wherever. They're in action. Can check the box. It'll be done. Hi. How's that? It's just the same. Matt here. I made the presentation yesterday about this along with law and match. So we talked about what the next steps would be in terms of making the property available. for redevelopment, um, positive reception from the council about a process involved in planning. It'll be several months. Officially say, hey, this is a period of time we're going to accept proposals. So we, we love to use, um, this forum as a way to generate interesting property and also use it as a way for you to know why projects or freedom of interest into, uh, the equation. So we're at almost all ideas at this point. It's a big piece of property. It's going to make it right since we acquired in 2019. So we're not trying to advance. We probably do want to do well. We didn't want to know what some deliberate guests and we didn't want to help. Uh, we want to market it in a way that gets the best proposal. So, um, or come that, but this is hot off the prices. I'm like, yeah, like I said, I saw, but, but, but to your point, that's the type of top of mind is that we want to create the development opportunities. So we'll talk more about it along with a number of other projects that we're trying to do on the downtown area and work great. Well, it's a large presentation. It's time. Like it's just, you can't do the types of projects that you want to do without this on it. And I put it this way. You can do them, but they'll be different. They'll make the process easier. So you kind of need all of those things toward the government. So we'll talk more about the government specific projects, but those then would be very important to North Florida and have a project. Then that's the phone. And with the new things into the Gary. It's hard to make any new cereal. Yes. Okay. Awesome. Thank you, sir. Okay. Well, absolutely. If you feel like you want to watch the meeting, get this online, so we can watch the meetings Monday. Okay. Here. If you would share the presentation, I would do that with the, with the committee members. That'd be great. Yes. I'll get the presentation. I'll send you a copy of the presentation as well as a link to the agenda. I demand the video for Monday evening. Awesome. Thank you. Well, that is all that I had. And the one of those has a day to bring forward. Sounds good to me. So you have to move to a tournament. Oh, I'm sorry. When is next to me? I'm actually in the process of putting together the calendar. Okay. So is it, if that's something that we need to discuss now or regarding to work? No. So the policy states that it's on, it's the first, the first Wednesday of each quarter month. So we just had a meeting. The next meeting, if we went quarterly, could be in March, unless the board feels that they want a meeting prior to that. We can always, as items come forward, specifically maybe North Green, Greenwood, North Ward, or even if more has any more updates, you know, we can always schedule a special meeting between now and then. The next meeting would be scheduled right now tentatively for March 4th. Okay. All right. I'm good with March 4th. Does anyone have any objectives? Don't. No. So we'll move forward with that March 4th date. Unless, as you say, if something comes up, that's not discussing if we can make sure that you have it. Yes. Awesome. Cool. Anything up? Am I missing anything? All right. Awesome. Thank you very much. Meeting adjourned. See you later. See you later.