This time we'll call to order the March 2nd, 2026 meeting of the City of Clearwater Downtown Development Board. We'll now move to item 2.1 on the agenda, and that's the approval of minutes. So moved. All those in favor? Opposed? Unanimous. Before we go further in the agenda, I'd like to welcome Mr. Petrucci to the board, first meeting, and so welcome. Thank you. That moved to item 3 on the agenda, that's citizens to be heard regarding items not on the agenda. Are there any citizens here today who want to be heard on a downtown development board item that is not on today's agenda? Seeing none, we'll move to item 4.1, approve the January 2026 financial statement for filing. Good afternoon. Ann Lopez, CRA Assistant Director. This first item that I have for you is to approve the financial statement for filing for the month of January. The expenditures for the month of January are outlined in the agenda item. There was a total of $173,856, and from the beginning of the fiscal year through January, there was a total of $749,772 that was spent, and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Is there anyone here from the public today that desires to speak to Ms. J. No? Hearing none, is there any board discussion? Vice Mayor? Just for clarity. Yes, ma'am. Can you confirm whether the column that says available balance includes unencumbered or unallocated funds or restricted funds? So, what I would consider to be unallocated or unrestricted funds would be towards the bottom where it says downtown future initiatives. That has a balance of $500,000, $92,915. That would be funding that you have available that has not been allocated to any type of special event, any program, any initiative within the DDB budget for this fiscal year, correct? There's also a line that says Cleveland Street Activation. That has an available balance of $245,000, just a little over $245,000. That's funding that has been allocated for that initiative, but there's still available balance for projects that could come out of that. So, that would be the $300,000 that we, in March of 2025, approved for the mobile vendors? So, part of that would be? Correct, yes. We've used some of that funding. There will be at the April 20th meeting. We will bring forward a full presentation on all of the initiatives that we've done under Cleveland Street. But we have allocated and spent some of that original $300,000, and then at the February meeting, we did add an additional, I want to say it was around $150,000. So, we brought that back up to $300,000. But under downtown future initiatives, there still is $592,000 that has not been encumbered to any program or initiative. Just a quick question. Can you just, again, I missed it. I didn't have it up on my screen. Tell me where I can find the unallocated, what I call unallocated balance. It is towards the bottom. It says future downtown initiatives. So, it's under the column. I see. Yep, for business assistance. Okay. Yep. So, that's kind of your catch-all of what's remaining. Thank you. We can allocate as the board sees. Okay, Council Member Albritton. That $300,000, was that for mobile vendors such as Parklet's, that kind of situation? Yes. And we've spent some of that? We have. On that type of initiative or just other mobile vendors elsewhere? We've done different initiatives. So, Cleveland Street Activation was more of a broader initiative. And under that came just different programming. So, the DDB has allocated some funding and the CRA has allocated some funding. Under that has come, we've done new banners on Cleveland Street. We have done the Lunchtime Market, which is actually this Friday. So, we've done the Lunchtime Market. The events series with St. Pete College came out of that. So, we have had some programming that we've done out of that initiative. Okay. Neither? Not. Is there a motion? Motion to approve agenda item 4.2. Excuse me. 4.1. Or 4.1. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Unanimous. Yet, item 4.2, approve the high-impact event funding request for the second annual Taste of Clearwater hosted by Rurory Club of Clearwater Charities, Inc., to be held on Saturday, April 18, 2026 from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. on the 600 block of Cleveland Street and Station Square Park. Good afternoon, Vicki Shire, CRI Division Manager. Staff is presenting a high-impact event request for the second annual Taste of Clearwater hosted by the Rurory of Clearwater. This one-day event is scheduled for Saturday, April 18, 2026 from 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. at Station Square Park and the corner block of Cleveland Street. The mission is free and the estimated attendance is $3,000 plus. The applicant previously received $30,000 in funding in 2025 for the Taste of Clearwater. The applicant is requesting $30,000 in funding to include portable restrooms, however, the other eligible direct production costs that they want to, that's under the guidelines. Staff recommends funding an amount not to exceed $20,625, which excludes portable restrooms unless otherwise approved by the board. The applicants are here to provide any information you guys have at this time, so I'd like to invite them up to the podium. I'm Jim Clark, we want to thank you for your support for our event last year. We did have less than expected last year, but we did have a good turnout of at least 2,000 event goers. They were there a majority of the day. They did take in the activities and the music throughout the whole event. So thank you. I want to introduce Britt next. Hello. This year, we made a strategic decision to relocate our event from Coachman Park to the 600 block in Station Square. As we evaluated our growth and community engagement goals, it became clear that this new location offers a footprint that better aligns with the scale and character of the event. This shift also creates a more immersive experience by bringing attendees directly into the heart of downtown Clearwater, increasing visibility and meaningful foot traffic for our local merchants and brick-and-mortar businesses. This is an important step in strengthening the connection between the event and the downtown redevelopment area, ensuring the event serves as a true driver of community vitality. In support of that mission, we are also waiving the entry fee for brick-and-mortar businesses within the redevelopment district, making participation more accessible and encouraging broader local involvement. Overall, this move allows us to deepen our impact, support our businesses' community, and better position the event as a catalyst for downtown engagement. Stephanie? Hi, everybody. So we recognize and want to say how much we appreciate staff's support and recommendation of our event. We did have one thing we wanted to talk to you about as a request. So the current guidelines don't allow for the rental of restroom, trailers, and hand-washing stations. So as previously discussed, we've moved our event this year to Station Square Park and the street, where there are no public restrooms. And so without renting portable restrooms, attendees would need to rely on nearby business facilities. We believe this would place an undue burden on our local businesses and is neither practical nor fair to them during this high-traffic community event. Because of the food, excuse me, because we're going to have food and food vendors and food service, hand-washing stations, we feel, are a mandatory health and safety requirement. So they're not just, they're tied to public health, to public safety, and responsible event management. For these reasons, we would respectfully request that these costs be considered allowable and eligible for payment under the DVB grant. And we would request an additional $5,000 to the recommended allocation to our grant to cover these costs, making the total grant request $25,625. So we're happy to answer any questions. Did my, did I, did I make some? Okay. Well, when you said that you were moving it to Station Square, which I think is great because it's underused and I think it's a nice place to have, have that event. I agree. I think we need to make it allowable to have restrooms because anytime you're not using Coachman Park that has all the restrooms in there, I think that that, we should discuss it and maybe make that allowable. So I'll let everybody else talk first and then before I make a motion. Thank you. Yes, this weekend was pretty busy downtown. And when I went and visited the brick and mortar businesses, they were also expressing their concern on the burden of having all those people from outside coming to use the restrooms. So I do want to open up that dialogue. I think it should be one of the covered expenses. The question is how much. I kind of did a preliminary research, anywhere between $300 to $500, a port-a-potty, depending how big they are. So I do want to open up that dialogue and I think it should be covered. Ms. Maroukai. Thank you all. I appreciate you, what you guys do. I'm also, for having this discussion, I think that we need to be smart because we're starting a set of precedents, right? So once you open it, that's just going to go trickle down. We have salsa at the district. I would assume that they will ask for port-a-potties as well. You know, they've been doing their event for how long and how many people do they bring in and where are their people using restrooms. It's just one of those expenses that once you put it in there, you're never given it back. So when we're dealing with tax dollars and those types of revenue sources, we need to think, what are other places doing? How are they overcoming those concerns? And what does that look like? That's just one of my hesitations with starting this new precedence. And it's nothing against you all. I'm sorry. But that's just where I kind of go. And if it's $5,000, is that what we're going to set it to? Or do we do our own research and have staff come back to us with the appropriate case and cost? I just don't know. I don't know. I'm not sold that we should necessarily put our foot in that when other events are happening and have happened in Station Square and have not had this request yet. So I look forward to talking through this with you guys. Mr. Wilbert. I know I used to have events downtown as well and required, especially in the street downtown, that I had to supply restrooms. And I know we always put them was on Garden Avenue, kind of off south of Fort Harrison. That's where we lined them up. And I just covered the cost with people that were giving money to help. I can't remember back. It's been a while. But I don't know if the city actually paid for that. They required it, but I don't think they paid for it. I know that you asked at originally $30,000 for this event, and we're giving you $20,000. The recommendation is $20,000. What's that? The recommendation is $20,000. Well, that's the recommendation. That's right. Are there any other sponsors that could help you on this particular thing? So we have a variety of sponsors. We've listed them in the application. And this is a fundraiser event. So if the money that you're giving is – if everything holds true in the budget, this event will make $0. Right. I understand. And that was kind of the way that I did it, too. At the time, I was on the DDB, and I was doing these events to bring people downtown and to help the businesses. But I know you're going to need restrooms, and it's going to be – even though you have a zero thing, I think I would be more apt to saying I'd like to give you the money for it, but I don't know what the cost. Now, you're not talking about just like port-a-potty restrooms. You're talking about restroom trailers. Right. And to be fair, the – there's two things. There's how much you allocate and how much we submit for reimbursement. I mean, so if it comes in – if you allocate $5,000 to it, but it only comes in at $3,000, $3,000, then we're only going to get reimbursed for $3,000. We're not – we only get reimbursed for receipts that we submit. Yeah. Okay, well, I'd be more apt to doing this because I want this to be a successful event, and we don't want to do something that's structurally going to entice people downtown and then have them know where to go to the bathroom. So I think I would be more apt to giving that to you. That's move. Menino. Thank you, Mayor. Thanks for coming in, and thanks for everything that Rotary does for our community. Thank you, Mayor. I think when we get ourselves in these discussions talking about events, we always have to keep in mind that, you know, one event isn't the same as another event. They are different, and this is a nonprofit and a charity in our community. Again, the only money that is ever made is going directly back into the community in some form, and we know how our Rotary Club operates. I'm supportive of this. Whatever the council decides as far as allocating for those restrooms, whether it's $25,000, $6,000, $25,000, or a different figure, I am supportive of it, and I appreciate you. I do also support the move up to 600 block. Our park is absolutely beautiful, and we know that, but if it's not the right size event for that footprint, it gets dwarfed sometimes. If you have 600 people in Raymond James Stadium, it looks like a complete failure. But if you have 600 people at Station Square, it looks completely different. So that footprint makes a difference. And so I think that was a wise decision to move up there. So I look forward to being there again as I was last year. Thank you. Vice Mayor. So allowing the coverage of the port-a-potties to me, I look at it as flexibility. Not all events will need it, right? But I don't think it's adding to the cost specifically because we still have control of how much we allocate. We're just trying to give, or I would like, to give as much flexibility to each person that comes up here. For you, port-a-potties is going to be important. For others, it's not. But I do want to give everybody an opportunity to be successful. And I don't think it's fair to the brick-and-mortar restaurants to have a line out the door for people who are not their customers. And so I would like to include it, but not specifically give it a money amount and just we, on each case by case, can allocate the amount that we feel comfortable. Yeah. Well, I haven't weighed in yet, but I agree with Council Member Cotton to some extent that it's more about the overall number than it is, you know, really for you all to figure out your budget. And when I look here, and, I mean, part of the reason, you know, a number of us attended, the reason that you're moving to a smaller location is last year it dwarfed the attendance that you had. So, I mean, it was lighter than expected. You all would anticipate that. So some of these other expenses in light of that attendance last year, I know what was paid for the Sea Blues Festival for performers. And I understand that the entertainment's not only a performer. There are other things that go into this. But that's a pretty heavy expense compared to what was just paid to, I think, I mean, that was $10,000 was about as much as they, except for one performer. That's more than anybody else got for performing. And these were national performers. One of them was a headliner. They got about that amount. So I understand you need to have music and entertainment there that adds to that. But I would just ask you to look at some of these other budget expenses and see if maybe there's some way to work the restrooms in without, you know, asking or getting more from DDB. Certainly, downtown development wants to support the community. But really the purpose of this board is to support the businesses downtown. So although, you know, you are going to, and we're happy that you're making some money off this that goes back in the community, it really is money that we're directed to use just for the downtown businesses. So that's my only question. Do you think there's some other room in the budget? I weigh in on the musical act part of this. A lot of the draw that we're hoping for for this event, not only with the supporters that we already have for the Rotary Club of Clearwater, but also for people that are music enthusiasts, restaurant enthusiasts, and the fact that the music that we had this last year, it was lovely. It was fun. But they weren't noticeable, recognizable acts. So it really was more of an ambient music. And with that, we paid for the stage, the AV system, and those things that were supportive of the budget, or by the budget, I'm sorry. So with this, because we don't need the stage, being at beautiful Station Square, but we still would need the AV, we still would need the bands, and hoping for at least two established bands to be participating, along with the involvement of the Clearwater Jazz Holiday, Young Lions Jazz, as like the opener, which is supported by their program already. So to have two bands that are recognizable, bringing more foot traffic in, other than just the Rotary supporters. That's more of a copy. Yeah, thank you. And listen, you guys, the Rotary Club is of max importance, right? I mean, the motto is self above service. So I feel terrible with hawkish comments in regards to your event, and I don't mean that. But what I do mean is that, I mean, even though this is an event in which we are going to set a standard, and yes, we evaluate all events based on their merit, but we all attest to that bathrooms are rather important. So how are you ever going to go back on saying a bathroom is not important in the future event? And that's just going to be a line item cost that staff is now going to have to evaluate. And again, I hate saying this about you in particular. I know many of you. So it's even tougher, but it's the truth, right? So that's where it's very hard for me to start to add money when the majority of our time up here on this board has been where can we reduce your cost so that your event starts taking off and is self-sustainable. Now, I also know that this is a fundraising event and that it will also be reinvested within our community and that you guys are doing great things for our brick and mortar and able to be a part of that. But maybe this will help if you're able to answer this question then to maybe justify that. You're shooting for 3,000 to 5,000 attendees. That would be awesome. I hope you get 6,000. According to our new technology data, you guys roughly got 1,300 verified in last year's event. So where are we making up that difference seeing as how we didn't even get to half of what our minimum estimated attendance is currently? Does it come with the axe? So we were anticipating a much higher attendance, obviously. Our first announcement of the event brought in 11,000 followers on Facebook, which, you know, they could be inflated. Who knows? However, it was instant that they wanted to go to this event. It rained the morning of the event. The grass was soggy. There was no way for that to become dry, which is another reason why we are moving to a street in Station Square because that dries much more quickly and doesn't ruin tennis shoes. We actually had to delay the beginning of the event. And if you are like most of us, if it's raining that day, you have changed your plans from an outdoor event to now an indoor event somewhere else. Okay. And lastly, so just so I'm making sure we're clear here, staff has recommended the $20,625. That does not include the $5,000 for restrooms. So you're essentially asking us to up this to $25,625. Okay. Thank you all very much. Vice Mayor. I have a different view on this. My number one mission is to bring people downtown. It's not to hold anyone accountable to being more economical, have better ROI, or be self-sustainable. I don't care if a successful business or entity comes before me with a successful event and asks me for the same amount for the next 10 years, I'm okay with that. Because to me, my number one priority is to bring people downtown. So let me start off with that. Second, I do want to make a motion to include the port-a-potties or restrooms as something that we can fund with no set amount, just like every other category, and then we evaluate each case by case. But I do want to include it, so I made the motion. Okay. What's your total amount? What's the total amount? No, we determine case by case. Just like we don't determine entertainment, and that's a category. I think the case here, though, is $5,000. So it would be $25,625. But we have given less than what we want. So are you asking them to go back and reevaluate what they need and then? Oh, so you want me? I don't know. I thought what I was going to do was make a motion to accept it as a line item that will be reimbursed and then make another motion as to how much we would like to give more. Can we do two motions or do you want one? Motions. I wanted to separate allowing restrooms to be a reimbursable item, line item, and then the second one would be an actual amount for this specific case. You can make it in one motion. Just say $20,625 plus a reimbursable amount up to? I would say I think $2,000 is enough for the port-a-potties. I did a few phone calls early this morning. But they're not doing port-a-potties. They're doing, but I think with $180,000 is it $500,000? Yeah. Please consider, it has to be emergency placement and removal if it's a Saturday event and the event space has not been reserved for both Friday or all, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. So it has to be an emergency per unit or altogether, depends on the facilitator, if the restrooms are port-a-potties delivered that morning, taken away as soon as the event is over, as opposed to hauled away as a trailer. Yeah. If there's an additional cost, I think is the point, then just a rental of a port-a-potty. And there are hand-washing stations. I don't want to miss, I don't want to, that's vital to this too. I do think $5,000 is a hefty ask. We could assist you with that with $2,000, $2,000, $2,500, but I think $5,000 is a bit much, at least for my comfort zone. So you made a motion? Yes, with $2,500. Add it. And again, just for the motion, it's just sort of restrooms for this event, as opposed to for all future events. I would like it to be reimbursable for all events. And then for this specific case, add $2,500. You guys don't want to second it. So you've got two motions going. It's exactly what I was saying before. I'm sorry. Let's just consider the agenda item today. So the agenda item today, don't we need to make a motion to actually approve something that was not being able to? For this event. Okay. Make a motion to approve the line item for restrooms up to $2,500 added to staff's recommendation. Clear. Second. Okay. Staff's recommendation. Is there anyone in the public that desires to speak to this agenda? Just for clarity, so we're approving an amount of $22,500. No. It's $20,625 plus $2,500. $2,500 for the restrooms. $23,125, I think, is the number you're looking for. So it would be the staff recommendation of $20,625 plus up to $2,500 for the restrooms for a maximum grant of $23,125. Thank you. Okay. Any further board discussion? If none, all those in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Nay. That would be all in favor except for board member Cotton. Thank you. We'll see you guys in a couple of weeks, months. Okay. The next item is agenda item 4.3. Approve high impact funding request for the Florida Orchestra to present a free symphony by the sea concert on May 8, 2026 from 730 to 930 p.m. at the Baycare Center. Thank you. This item is a high impact funding request for the Florida Orchestra to present a free symphony by the sea concert. This outdoor concert is scheduled for May 8, 2026 from 730 p.m. to 930 p.m. at the Baycare Sound. The applicant previously received $50,000 in funding in 2024. The DDB grant policy allows a maximum award of $30,000 for high impact funding. However, the applicant is requesting $50,000. Staff recommends funding the amount not to exceed $30,000 to support eligible direct production costs. The applicant meets all funding criteria. At this time, I'd like to provide the applicant to answer any questions you may have. Hi. Good afternoon. My name is Lori Osborne, and I thank you all for partnering with us the first season for the Symphony by the Sea, and I'm excited for us to do a second annual Symphony by the Sea together. I'm here today to tell you a little about it, along with my colleague, Anita Samaru. I'm also going to use my readers. The second annual Symphony by the Sea will be held Friday, May 8, as we said, starting at 730 at Clearwater Sound. It will be a free concert for the Clearwater residents and will attract visitors from other areas as well as our tourists. This will, again, once again be a gift for the city of Clearwater as well as TFO. We think that we are going to be building on the momentum from the last season and want to make this event something that the community looks forward to. We will be highlighting patriotic music this time because it is going to be our country's 250th anniversary, as well as those Broadway tunes and movie classics. Our conductor, again, will be the wonderful Chelsea Gallo, who is also very charismatic. This time we are going to include more community presence and have asked our partners, community partners as well as Clearwater Fundamental Middle School, to perform a pre-concert program before our musicians take the stage. We are asking community partners to set up information booths and have already confirmed some to include the Clearwater Library Youth Services, Clearwater Marine Aquarium, our club's Edible Peace Patch, Keep Pinellas Beautiful, the Arc of Tampa Bay, Community Dental Clinic, and Lift Academy. Again, we're trying to incorporate our community and enhance community presence there. We are, again, requesting the $50,000, although we understand that the limit is $30,000. The cost of its performance is approximately $115,000, and TFO will be contributing the remaining $65,000. The $50,000 will significantly help offset the cost to include production such as the venue rental. That's actually the majority of the cost. It's approximately $38,000. Our entertainment is included in our request of the $50,000, and that's the TFO conductor and some of our musicians. The music rental and music purchase, and then finally our marketing budget incorporates all the $50,000 that we are requesting. Last season, Symphony by the Sea drew approximately 2,100 attendees and was held on a Sunday afternoon. This season, we expect approximately 3,000 attendees, and we understand that you all used Placer AI to assess that number and got a total of 1,700 attendees. We used a clicker process, and that's how we determined the 2,100. And, again, we do plan on using our clicker to track our data, again, this year, for hopes of that 3,000. The guests that will be attending will impact downtown because this is a free event, and it's a Friday evening. It will be a family-friendly event, but we also see it as a great date night opportunity. So we can see folks coming and eating at the restaurants, grabbing a drink, shopping some of those local downtown boutiques. Last season, we estimated the economic impact for the first-ever Symphony by the Sea to be approximately $64,000. And with this new season, we expect approximately $90,000 of an economic impact. Marketing for this will include listing in our season brochure, which you all have. So just so you know, we have included it, and this is – we've printed 60,000 copies of our season brochure, and it is distributed throughout the Tampa Bay region. This season, we will also be putting it on our social media platforms, including our website, which garners approximately a million views. Then our Instagram, which has 12,000 followers, Facebook, TikTok, and LinkedIn. We're also going to be collaborating with our friends over at Amplify Clearwater to bring this event to their newsletter, as well as their calendar of events, and our Visit St. Pete Clearwater friends to also highlight this event. We want to say that we think Symphony by the Sea is – we want it to become a tradition that people in our community look forward to attending. Much like we have in our other Pops concerts in St. Pete and Clearwater – in Tampa. Those have been in existence for more than 20 years. We see this growing and becoming a staple to downtown Clearwater as well, and they garner about $10,000 to $15,000 at this point. We're hoping to fill that $8,500 at the Sound, and we know that we can do it. We know the momentum is already going down in downtown Clearwater with the onset of the new hotel announcement and all the great things that are happening. And we see Symphony by the Sea becoming a landmark event for the downtown Clearwater area as well. Thank you. Does anyone here from the – before we go any further, anyone here from the public's desire to speak this day? We're seeing none. Any more discussion? From Menino? Yeah, Mayor, thank you. Thank you for coming in today and presenting to us. I'm supportive of this event. I think there's a couple reasons why. When we talked about this last year, we talked about high-impact funding for our downtown events. We wanted some – to have the ability to draw diversity, diversity of attendees and not just, you know, a rock and roll concert or a Christmas event in the park, but obviously the orchestra is something diverse in its attendance. We wanted something that necessarily wasn't charging a gate fee that we're supportive of. That way you're offering our community and our families something affordable that they can go do. And the other thing that was important to us was really making sure that it was not just free, but there wasn't food and vending kind of thing so that they do support our local brick-and-mortar stores. And, you know, when it's a food, vending, beer, drinking event, so often, unfortunately, they do not walk up Cleveland Street and support our vendors. Something like this I think we found, and we found in the history of the sound, is that people do come down early and have dinner and have drinks and then maybe afterwards go home and have dinner. So I do appreciate it. I get stuck on two things, a $38,000 fee to rent that place. I know that's not your fault. I'm not blaming you for that. That one's a struggle, but it is absolutely beautiful, and that calendar is booked, so there is a value, a supply and demand. I do get that. The attendance, I wish that with you that that was, you know, double. I can see where a software program that monitors cell phones on a Wi-Fi basis, you know, not everyone carries a phone into the show, or you might be kids that don't have cell phones, right? So it's not getting, and when you're clicking it, you know, you might be getting a more accurate number. I wish that number was a little bit higher for $50,000, but I am supportive of this event. I wish you the best, regardless of what denomination this board approves. Thank you. Dr. Robert? Okay. I'm very supportive of this event. In fact, I was here when we talked about building the sound, and I wanted to make sure the stage is going to be big enough for the Florida Orchestra. Thank you. And we did. We had lots of discussion on expanding it to the size it is now for you guys. What I'm sorry about is, again, as Councilman Menino says, the cost of performing in the sound now. I mean, we weren't thinking about that back then. We thought, oh, the Florida Orchestra will come in. They could use it, too, and it's just too bad it worked out like that because it's more expensive. It's too expensive for a lot of things we'd like to have, would have done there, but I can tell you that stage was built for the Florida Orchestra, and so I'm going to support you 100% on this because that wasn't just me. Everybody was very supportive of it back then when we talked about it, and I know they're supportive now, so I'm going to support you all the way on it. Thank you. That's where we're going. Yeah, hey, guys, real quick question for you because you said $38,000 was the rental. It looks like it's $40,022. Is that correct? That's right, but part of it is not covered under the item details for the budget, so stage and other costs are not covered under it. So we'll incur that cost. Gotcha. So was it just $38,000 even then? $37,000. It's actually $37,000 something. We did provide a budget for you, and under there this is $37,000, $790. Yeah. Through your budget. I'll take your word for it. Listen, I think that as Council Member Menino and Council Member Albritton have expressed that, I think the Florida Orchestra is a key service provided to our residents, and I think that it has a value that you really can't put a number on. With that being said, I would be willing to make a motion to cover the entire expense of that for them for this event, and then now that we do have the new AI, you know, Placer AI, I know you guys are doing clickers and all those fun things, but at least we'll start to be able to track data. And then, you know, it's less than the $50,000 we gave last year. Next year we'll get some more numbers from that database to see whether or not we're getting more people in, especially with the different time change and date, and then continue to help make better decisions going forward with funds and what we can do. So I would be good with matching the amount of the cost for the venue for them. So your motion is to prove the requested amount. $50,000. No, I'm sorry. The amount for the venue for Bay Care Center. $37,790. $37,790. So it's above what staff recommended, but it's at least take off that expense. So what will be the total amount then? $37,790. Would that work? I hear a bunch of flipping. Yeah, what was the recommendation, too? The recommendation was just $30,000. $38,000. That's probably easier. Yeah. Could you just round it up to $38,000? Council Member Albrighton, you said 100% support. What does that 100% mean? $50,000. $50,000, okay. I didn't realize that's what that meant. Hey, this is better than mine. I can say that's 50%. That's what I thought. This event is a break-even for us, so we're not making any. Before I weigh in, we'll just see if there's a second. Okay, no second. So the motion dies, but I can be a second. That's fine. Yeah, that's okay here. Okay. I think they were doing some costs. I thought we were going to say, yeah. So somebody else want to weigh in before I weigh in? Any other thoughts? I'll just say I've had, I don't know, one of them, Vice Mayor, was with me, I think, for the Pinellas County Schools Program over at Ruth Hecker Hall, seeing Ruth Hecker Hall fill with 2,000 kids, the first experience ever with classical music and orchestras. And then I also attended the Steinbrenner Concert. The Steinbrenner family has one in Tampa and one at Ruth Hecker Hall. And I'm glad to see you incorporating younger performers because I think that's what this is all about. It's our way to educate, bring families into the sound to see a different kind of music and to enjoy that as a family and to learn together. So I really think it's great in that regard. And then you did mention America 250, which I'd like to see more of the community doing as a whole, not just this but other events, really putting that stamp on it as we approach the 4th of July to celebrate America 250. So I think that's another important aspect that maybe sets it apart a little bit. And hopefully we can bring those families, as we've been doing with, I keep talking about the world-famous rubber duck, but, I mean, so many families, not as usual as that, you know, different events, they've just experienced our park and discovered it. And hopefully through this event, they'll come back and experience it again. And so I support the request as well. Thank you. Okay. Any other board member on the way? I agree. It looks like a great event. And I think it's definitely going to be very valuable for downtown. And I agree with Council Member Menino. You know, looking at the local food trucks, concessions, and bars with the 3,000 people attendees. And I understand the cost, obviously, renting out the sound is not the, you know, comes with the cost. So it's, I just wish I would see more support to the businesses that are in downtown. There are a lot of ideas that, you know, pretty sure all the merchants over there will be open to it or open to hear it. But overall, I think, I think it's a great event. Yeah. Like I said before, I see this as becoming a tradition so that we can continue to grow. And it will, we aspire for this to become something that all the community, visitors, tourists, more than to the downtown. I mean, obviously, we want the downtown folks to get it. But as this continues to grow, you're absolutely right. Everyone throughout Clearwater and Penelis, those brick and mortars, could participate and enjoy something like this. And to Mayor's point, thank you so much for highlighting that. Because our mission is to educate, inspire, and unite through the community, through the power of music. And so we absolutely want this to be a family-friendly event. We included the fact that we, you know, leave your picnics, picnic baskets at home. Because we have all the things you need and want here, right here in downtown, to eat, drink, and enjoy. So, yeah, thank you so much. Well, the other thing I would say, though, I do agree with you. I mean, it has been our goal. And you talked about long range, you know, traditional and that. We would like to see it grow to the point where sponsors are really eager. You know, they see the families there. They see the attendance. That as we go along, we've made it our request to try to find those corporate partners and sponsors who will, you know, allow us to scale down our contribution to it. Because we hope that it's so successful that many are willing to participate and want their name on as a proud sponsor. I think Vicki has some numbers. Just real quick for me. Correctly. We did calculate just the venue cost. It is $37,790,000 for the venue rental. But am I hearing this correctly? You guys are going to make a motion for the 50? Is that what's happening? I believe it sounds like it's gone that direction. Okay. Okay. But you haven't made your motion, have you? Is it my turn? He did, but it's not. Okay. All right. So I'll make a motion to give them $50,000 for this event. Second. Okay. Any further discussion? If none, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Opposed? Nay. All in favor, except for a board member of Cotton. Thank you all so very much. And we look forward to seeing you all on May 8th. Thank you. That will move to item 4.4. And then recap for Fall Y'all, Jingle Bell, Family Fun Fest, and Tasty Tampa Bay. Biggie Shire, CR Division Manager. At this time, I'd like to play a video that was produced by Intensity County to show their highlights of their past recaps. We're going to get it. All Festival in downtown Clearwater. Coachwood Park in downtown Clearwater. Yeah. Thank you so much, Council, for supporting our past events. We've had three beautiful, family-friendly events. We try to have our events very upbeat, very exciting, always focusing on family. We don't have alcohol. We just have a lot of fun. We do tons of contests that include the kiddos and lots of fun things on stage. We also really like to support our downtown restaurants and shops. We always offer them a free booth at our events, and we always offer to distribute flyers or anything to give away as well. So I also wanted to... We just made a quick video so you could see all three events, but I did have a little clip of a song that Vice Mayor had asked for me to play. So I'm going to play it real quick. It's one of the five songs that we made that included downtown Clearwater. So let's see if we can hear it. Sunrise on the causeway. Wind down. Walking on the calendar. Circle. So that was just a clip of it. If anyone wants to have a full song, we can email it. We'll also have it on our social medias under Saucy Queen on Instagram and Facebook. So we feel that we have really had a great time in downtown Clearwater highlighting all the fun that there is to do. We do a lot of TV media. Thank you, Mayor, for being a part of that. And we try to get on every TV station. We've been on Dennis Phillips and Fox and ABC and Bay News 9. And we feel that all of that impact is even more than just the event. Before, during, and after. So we hope to continue to do events with you guys. Our social media, we've had tons of, like, attendance with that. So for Follow Y'all, we had about 14,000 on our page. Jingle Bell, about 12,000. Tasty Tampa Bay, about 17,000. And it was posted in over 400 community groups. Something that's really different and cool about my company is that I have a group of influencers that I work with. And they blast it everywhere. One of my influencers has 181 million views on Google alone. And he was our main influencer that was doing Facebook Lives all throughout the events that we do. And then a lot of our vendors did all three events that we did. And they absolutely loved it. They said, we have no idea. Oh, my gosh. This is just amazing. And then as far as impact, I have the very, very great pleasure of introducing the grand champion of the Tasty Tampa Bay Festival of Deli. And they can tell you the impact. They've had the best bites in all Tampa Bay. No, it's 39. 39? 39 different dishes they won. Wow. Wow. Congratulations. Yep. Congratulations. Hello, everyone. My name is Nola. And here's Som Sai. All right. Well. We're in Laodeli. Yes. I'm Som Sai with Laodeli. And partnered up with Sony and Nola. And we operate inside of Chiang Mai Thai Sushi in downtown Clearwater. Thank you again, council members, for all that you do. Thank you to the Clearwater downtown DDB and, of course, Michelle, Saucy Queen, because this opportunity provided us a platform to really, really represent underrepresented Asian food. And the Asian food, of course, we're Lao American. And this is a food that's not relatively known. And we want to be a feature and a highlight here in downtown Clearwater to pull those folks in that want to try something new, fresh. And it comes locally sourced from our farming with chula, most of the ingredients. So it's another local tie. So thank you again for, you know, support and, you know, providing a platform for us. Thank you again. Yeah. Thank you. And my influencers are still have, they still have footage that they're tagging them on and Coachman Park and Clearwater. So we just wanted to thank you guys so much. And we hope to do some events in 2026 as well. Thank you. Thank you for coming back in right after the event. I'm sharing with you the results. That's so meaningful to us. It is. You know, we have some events where, you know, folks are, you know, a little hesitant to come back in and talk about who actually attended. But you always do. Thank you. Whatever numbers you give us are pretty close to whatever are. Yet, we just love your transparency. Thank you. And I can say, you bring attention. I don't know we've had any other event from an operator that's come in that gets more media attention. You have a great relationship, as you said, with all the media. It's so great that before the Tasty Tampa Bay, I think you've done, I don't know, all the media you can possibly do. And at 4 o'clock on a Friday, I tune in to Fox 13. And there's one of your food truck vendors in studio cooking. Yes. And she gave you the highest compliment. She said, yes, I'm doing this event for Michelle. She said, Saucy Queen, all of her events are always fantastic. She's, we can trust her as vendors to come in. And she gave you the highest compliment, which is the respect from those vendors that are paying to participate. We keep our vendors like family. And the number of times Coachman Park was mentioned in Clearwood, downtown Clearwater, just thank you. Thank you so much. And thank you for coming. Absolutely. Thank you. With that, we'll move back. Yeah. Liam? Can I add some comments? Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. You know I'm very excited about this. I am so genuinely impressed with your events. I went on Saturday, and like usual, right, there's all the sounds and the smells. What I didn't expect was that song to come up. That song was so loud. And I was walking slightly in front of my husband. I just stopped, and he bumped into me. And I was so excited, and I came and see you right away. But truly, so well executed. Clever marketing strategy, using all those influencers as judges, brilliant. TV, the radio personality as your emcee, keeping that energy really high, fabulous. Of course, the tune was great. And of course, I'm so thrilled. NOLA, Chiang Mai, I mean, congratulations again. Thank you. So thank you so much. I really enjoyed it. Wonderfully executed. Thank you. And the vice mayor is, like some of us can say, she is very good at karaoke. So next time, when you need a vocalist for the stage, I'm sorry. There we go. We will, I'm just saying, I'd reach out to her. Thank you for coming. I'm going to get back to you. Put a pin on that. Stand up. Move to agenda item 4.5, event recap for St. Petersburg College, Fresh Scarlet. The applicant is not able to attend the meeting today, so this item will be pushed back to a later date, dating meeting, if that's okay. Move to item 4.6, approved community event funding request in the amount not to exceed $6,760 for Sharkapalooza 2026, a free, family-friendly, art-driven ocean conservation festival at Coachman Park on May 16, 2020. Vicki Shires, our division manager. Before I go on the agenda item, I know there's been a lot of requests and stuff today, and you've had a lot of pamphlets, so I just want you guys to know the blue folder is from these lovely ladies, so if you guys like to open them up, you're more than welcome to use them. Staff is presenting a community event funding request for Sharkapalooza that will be held on May 16, 2026. It's a free event from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at Coachman Park. Estimated attendance is 1,000 plus. The applicant is requesting $15,000 in DDB funding. Staff recommends funding an amount not to exceed $6,760 to cover eligible direct production costs in accordance with the DDB grant policy and procedures. The applicant is here to provide any additional information you may have at this time. Good afternoon. My name is Jessica Adnich, and I am the founder and executive director of Sharkapalooza. Sharkapalooza is officially a nonprofit as of the first of the year, which we are very, very excited about. Sharkapalooza is a vendored art-juried show along with ocean conservation. I started it in 2022 because I felt like there was a gap and a bridge that could be made between art, science, and education. The youth of our country and our world, the best way for them to get involved and care about our ocean and our environment is to start them small and inspire them. Art is a great vehicle to do that. As of right now, the Florida Aquarium, the Clearwater Marine Aquarium, Moat, are all on board. They're going to be there along with other nonprofit ocean conservation organizations to have interactive exhibits. And also OCEARCH, which is our conservation benefactor partner, which if you know anything about sharks, they are nationally and internationally known for their shark research and conservation. They're going to be on site and help us with marketing. Hi, and I'm Michelle. I'm the president of our board of Sharkapalooza, and I own a home in Clearwater. I work at a business here in downtown Clearwater. It's called Direct Mail 2.0. We were actually the February business spotlight. Thanks again, Tasha. And I also am a yoga instructor on Clearwater Beach at Clearwater Beach Yoga. I do the beach cleanups. I've seen the mayor out there. We've partnered already with Keep Pinellas Beautiful. They're going to have a booth at Sharkapalooza. We're cross-promoting with their May beach cleanup on May 8th so that we can be there talking to people about Sharkapalooza. They're going to be talking about our event. And I'm head of marketing at a Direct Mail 2.0, so I just have some marketing expertise as well. So we're just really trying to get this out there in the world. I'm always walking around downtown Clearwater on my lunch break. And last Tuesday, I went to all the downtown merchants, and I went to all of them and gave them our flyers and our posters and talked to them about ways that they could get involved with Sharkapalooza for May 16th, but then other ways that they can get involved throughout the year. This is our main flagship event, but we want to maybe do things all throughout the year, maybe smaller events in downtown, maybe on the 400 block, the 600 block. The possibilities are endless. This is kind of just a starting point for us. And in terms of marketing, as Michelle said, she's the vice president of marketing for her company. I also have a design and marketing agency that's been in existence for over seven years. Prior to that, I ran the marketing and design division for Mace Brand Pepper Spray. It's a very large brand. So I bring that up because all the materials in front of you and the website I actually designed, Michelle helped create. So in terms of the budget, that's not going to be a line item. Any marketing dollars that come in from funding through you guys and also our sponsors are going to go to actual paid advertisements, radio, commercials, social media. And I just want to say that this is not going to be just a one-off event. My goal, our goal, as crazy as it sounds, is to make this the next biggest art and ocean conservation festival nationally. The fact that Osearch is our partner is massive. Our goal is to do national advertising. Clearwater is known as one of the best beaches in the world, so why not be known as one of the cities that actually cares about its health and its existence? Thank you. Does anyone here for the public that desire to speak for this, Jen? If not, is there any more discussion? Just a quick question, and I'm sorry if I missed it. Have you thought of having a partnership with Ocean Allies? We did reach out to them. And we actually, for all of the nonprofits in the art and ocean conservation world, we are offering them a complimentary 10 by 10 booth. So based on our mission and our core values, we felt like it was important to have all of the community, you know, our pillars, our art, education, conservation, and community. So to offer to nonprofits a free space for them to come, you know, everybody's going to play well in the sandbox. So, yes, we did reach out to them. Perfect. Thank you. Councilman Rekaten. Yeah, I think this is a great idea, guys. I know that my kid is going to love it. Real quick, with your goal and sponsorship donations down here, these are secured sponsors, right? No, and that's why I made this, because I wanted to make it clear that, you know, this is our first time doing it. We don't know what we don't know, and we're not going to recreate the wheel where it's not necessary, but there are areas that we're learning, and one of it was submitting this application to you. That area is our goal, but if you actually look at the page previous to that, that's our bank account. Talk about transparency. I screenshotted it. It's our bank account and our savings account. I, and with Michelle, you know, nonprofits can be started and run very poorly, and there's a lot of things done wrong, but we want to do things correctly. So I wanted to be transparent, so this is currently the money that we have. We are doing everything that we can, very guerrilla marketing, boots on the ground. We have these wonderful shirts that I cricketed, because I also, you know, being an RC designer, craft stuff, we're out in the community every single weekend, going to events, meeting people, making those connections, because we want to use our money wisely. The fact that I hit on that we're both in marketing is that those dollars are going to be strategically used, not willy-nilly. So if you get the $6,700 versus the $15,000, what gets cut from that top budget? I'm going to be really honest, because I'm honest to a fault. In my own business, I often talk myself out of clients, but what we can't pay for will be going on a credit card in my personal name. Not that I'm here to give you a sob story, but I believe in this work. I've been doing it since 2008. I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio. I moved to the area to do this work. I feel very passionate that you don't have to be a marine biologist to make a difference. And the health of our oceans is incredibly important. You know, sharks are like the bees of the ocean in the sense that if all the sharks die, we are ultimately screwed, to be blunt. So the things in the budget, obviously, we need to pay for the park. We need to pay for barricades, for security and safety, police, insurance, because I want to make sure that it is a safe event and that we do have our butts covered. But anything that we can cut will be cut. That answers your question. No, it does. Thank you. Yes. And we are also, in addition, working with Cheryl Munday, who is the executive director of Right Whale Festival, which has been going on for 17 years in Jacksonville. They have grown massively over the years, so we have been shadowing her. I personally have a business coach from Action Business Coaching that is donating their time because we're a non-profit, so I'm going through coaching to build. I've never built a non-profit. This will be my third company, but never a non-profit one. So we're getting all the expertise and help that we can from anyone that is willing to help. And this is the fifth year that Jess has done Sharkapalooza, but it's always been at like a small venue, like a brewery or a winery or a private business. And when she said to me that this year she wanted to make it a city festival, I just immediately thought of Clearwater. She lives in South Tampa. I've always lived in Clearwater. We could do it in Tampa. We could do it in St. Pete, Dunedin, Safety Harbor. We thought about some of the other options, but I said we have to do this in Clearwater. Like, I think it would be perfect. So, but we just need the support. Chris Maral. Yeah, you can go on. Thank you. Thank you. Chris Maral. Appreciate you. Thanks for coming in. I think you're in the right place. I hope you don't move to Tampa with it. We know how important our beaches and waterways are here. We depend on our tourism industry so vitally. Having an event, like I talked to you about earlier, free to the public is important to this board. Family friendly is important to this board. Environmentally, ocean conservative and educationally is very important to this board and to the region. I'm supportive of it. I like your marketing material. I love your transparency. Geez, you gave us a snapshot of your personal bank account. I don't think anybody does that. In fact, they come in by Mayfib and tell us lies all the time about numbers and expectations. I hope you truly are undervaluing your turnout, 1,000 people. I know how many kids in the schools love sharks and shark shirts and hope you find a way to really get the kiddos and the families. I know Council Member Cotton said his boy would absolutely love it. So I'm supportive. I look forward to it and look forward to being down there. I wish you the best. Thank you very much. And to that number, you know, I feel and we feel that we'd rather under promise on numbers than come in here and say we were expecting 10,000 and only five showed up. That's obviously not going to be the case. I was just on Tampa Bay 10 this past week and this month, because it's March, I will be on OCEARCH, their after hours program, which is televised nationally, internationally. I'll be on there with Chris Fisher, who's the actual founder of OCEARCH. So we're doing marketing initiatives with our partners that don't cost. Actually, on my way here, I was on the phone with Cheryl from Right Will Festival, and she did a survey of 500 people, and they spent a lot of money on a print ad. And that one person responded that they heard that the print ad was how they heard about the festival. So we really are trying to do best practices and knowing that we know marketing, you know, radio commercials, but boots on the ground. And so I'm really hoping that it probably will be more than 1,000. I feel good about it. But, again, I'm just going to be honest. Yeah, another thing. You know, just looking down here again at your food trucks and those types of things, I think it's great. But I think you've heard the tone that we all actually want to make sure that our brick-and-mortar downtown restaurants are being recognized and people are utilizing those things. Would you guys be willing to offer them one of these 10-by-10 booths or whatever the setup would be down there and no charge to them to give them exposure? Yes, we could definitely do that. And this year it's going to be a one-day event because, no pun intended, we didn't want to bite off more than we could chew. Last year we had 15 vendors, and it was at a community center. So now to be taking over the entire – at first it was just going to be the upper or the lower part of the park, and now we're like, we're just going to go big and take the whole thing over. Sure. So next year it will be a two-way-day event, which means more heads in beds with the national marketing. We'll have a full year of marketing done. But, yes, we do want to work with local businesses and merchants, and we definitely want to plan other fundraising events, art events, conservation events, working with those businesses. The reason that we are going to have beer, wine, and the food trucks on site is, let's be real, it's a beach, it's a Saturday, and it's also an art fest. That's going to help our vendors by allowing people to get a beer, a glass of wine, or a slushie, or whatnot, walk the event. They stay a little bit longer, they might buy more artwork, because then that means that we're going to have more vendors if the show is also successful for the artists. And I just know from my personal experience, I mean, I go to Market Marie every month, and we go to Clear Sky before we go to Market Marie, and we have breakfast. And then we go to Market Marie, and we'll get some snacks. And then we go to Tequila's after Market Marie, and we get tacos. So the downtown businesses, I mean, they still get my business, even though I go and frequent food trucks at the Coachman Park also. But the food truck that we do have for Sharkapalooza is Giggle Waters, and so they're already down there for the sound at all the concerts. So I'm happy that we just have them, because they're like a known local fan favorite. So I think that's a cool tip. Okay, that's Mayor Albright. So looking at this, I love the whole concept of it. I feel like it's kind of like the show Shark Tank, you know, up here. We were literally going to say, my name is Jess, and I'm Michelle, and of course, Sharkapalooza. There you go. We're seeking $15,000 of your grandmother to support our nonprofit. No, I love the concept. And, you know, years ago, thinking of and hearing for years all the different concepts that come up here, wanting money for things, I really like what you're doing. But I tell you honestly, as a DDB member, this is your first go-round. And, you know, we're a little hesitant on giving full amounts of money on first time. You know, if you have a history and you could show us, yeah, look at what we brought. We thought 1,000 people came like next year. 1,500 came or 3,000 or 1,200 or whatever. Then we think about it a little bit better, and is that going to be a success? Are we just giving? Because basically we're giving taxpayer money here. I think it's a great thing, but we've got to be careful about that. So, you know, on this one, I think I would go probably what the staff recommends on it. That's kind of where I'm heading right now. So I'll let everybody else finish. Yeah, I like this idea. I like the fact that, you know, they've got some conservation initiative going. I don't know if anybody realized, but this weekend off Honeymoon Island was a juvenile of gray white. That's kind of unheard of. So that was interesting, a little fun fact. I could see this as being a big draw for families with, you know, young little kids, boys and girls, that just love animals, aquatics. You already have some big names that you are saying are coming down in the aquatic area, you know, being Clearwater Marine Aquarium. Did you say the word Marine Aquarium? We have all three. All three. Perfect. Clearwater and Moat. So, you know, I know that I've been Mr. Wonderful today, but I think with this one, I would be more apt to give the whole 15. It is a first-time event. I know that. But I think that this one has promise. So you can see where we're going. If we're giving out $2,500 for toilets, then I'm good with giving 15 for this first-time event and seeing how it goes. And you know what? She's giving us her bank account. I think that she's going to be honest when she sees the event either did well or it didn't do well and realize that if she's going to come back again and we say no, well, the numbers don't lie, and she'll probably be more understanding of that. But for, you know, $15,000 versus some of the money that we've already spent, I would be okay with going with this one for that event. So I will not make a motion yet. I will continue this discussion, but that's where I'm at. I'm with you, Mr. Wonderful. I agree. I think you might be kind of being punished on that because of what you're saving yourselves as professionals in an industry. So often we see these budgets come in, and the marketing, advertised, print, and media side is really easy to fluff and pad that. And I think you girls came in, and because you can save yourself so much money in that, it's not reflective in this budget. And what's reflecting it is what you're saving. And I think that's – if we took 20% of what you're actually probably putting into it and spending, that number wouldn't be $6,000. It would probably be closer to that. Full transparency, I charge clients $125 an hour for my work. I have eight national and international design awards. I'm very modest about that, but you are correct. The budget line for professional quality design and our website, it's top of the line. I'm not saying I'm the best. I'm not, but I'm damn good. I agree with you. I think you're kind of being punished on the dollar amount for it. I believe in the event. I believe in what you girls are going to do. I look forward to being a part of it. I'll support you at the full 15. And I think next year we'll have a better idea on how successful it was, and we'll go from there. Oh, it's going to be two days next year. It's going to be bigger. I agree. I think by not having your expertise as a line item, I think your budget is really low. And I will be continuing to be Ms. Fabulous and recommend $15,000 as well. Thank you. I'm consistent. Okay. Before we vote, I just want to make it clear for the millions of visitors that come to Clearwater Beach next year, every year, that the juvenile white shark was spotted, great white shark was spotted in Honeymoon Island, which is very far away from our third water beach. Just for those who don't know the geography. Very far away. Very far away. Okay. So is there a motion? I'll make a motion to approve $15,000 for shark employees. Second. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. I can count. You don't want to throw an A over? I've been doing it all day. Okay. I'd be with me on this. Thank you. Thank you very much. Look forward to that. Yeah. Look forward to that. Thank you. Sorry. I kind of knew if you were like Shark Tank. I don't want to really. Okay. With that, we move to item 5.1, the DDB Director's Report to March. Good afternoon. Hey, Susan Nino, CRA Executive Director, for the record. Just because it's so late, your reports have been submitted for, and your agenda items. I'm just going to go ahead and forego any type of report, but I'm here for any questions. Okay. Any questions? I will say, you know, we really, like the recap that Michelle gave, those continue to be very helpful to me, and I think I saw some head nods when she was presenting. So thank you for helping pull those together. Those are helpful. Yeah, great. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Nothing else to come before the DDB. We'll adjourn the March 2, 2026 meeting. And take a short recess while we switch some name plates. Thank you.