Yes. This morning, I'm going to recognize a moment of silence for somebody that passed away in our community. And I will tell you that Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who could not be here today, was very close with this young woman and had asked me if I would do this. And I'm very proud to do it for her and in recognition of her relationship with a wonderful young woman by the name of Lainey Jones. Lainey died on October 14th at the age of 41 while at home at her home in Fault Lauderdale. Two of her family members are here today. Her husband, Joseph J.J. Jones, and her father, Jeff Schultz, are here in the chambers. Lainey suffered from Lee-Frau-Meany syndrome, a rare genetic condition that made her prone to multiple cancers, leading to her first battle with cancer at only 18 months old. She credited her early detection as the reason she survived six different types of cancers, and it became the driving force behind her lifelong advocacy for early research and support for others facing cancer. While she was eventually declared cancer-free at the age of 24, she was diagnosed again, this time with breast cancer. Over the years, she faced breast cancer, thyroid cancer, melanoma, sarcoma, adrenal carcinoma, nonsmokers, lung cancer, and finally, geoblastoma, a highly malignant brain tumor. Lainey's radiant positivity led to her befriending Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and they worked together to raise awareness, funds, and legislation for cancer and early education. After Lainey's passing, the Congresswoman said she was all gas, no quit. She had every reason to really only think about herself, but instead thought about everybody else but herself. Even after enduring brutal treatments for brain cancer, Lainey insisted on speaking at Debbie's annual Cancer Survivor Summit last month. She was determined to be at that summit and deliver her message. She chose to live every day like it's your first, in her words, and her optimism never dimmed. Those who knew and loved Lainey Jones knew she would want to be remembered as a warrior, with her husband describing her as a rainbow, always colorful and bright. Her last message to her Instagram followers around the world showed her commitment to funding research for cancer treatment. She said, I've faced seven primary cancers, gone through multiple treatments, and I'm still thriving. And research doesn't just matter, it saves lives. Lainey Jones is survived by her husband, JJ, her father, Jeff, mother, Kathy Schultz, and her brothers, Brian and Joey Schultz. May her memory be for a blessing. Mr. Davis. Thank you. Thank you very much. to bring hurricane relief to Jamaica when their plane crashed, so we can keep that family in our prayers as well. Thank you. Thank you. I was also going to mention County Commissioner Scott Cohen, because he had an enormous amount of accomplishments. Among them were the, he included the construction of the convention center back then, both waste-to-energy plants, the expanded airport, and the Broward County Performing Arts Center. That's a lot of things. And so I know he was sometimes controversial, but he did a lot for this county, and we should remember that. I also want to comment or remind about Jeff Barrett. He was a really well-known activist in Hollywood. He passed away last week. He was active on a lot of local issues. I always appreciated his sharp and incisive mind and always went to him for ideas and suggestions. He was a good friend and always appreciated his input. He served on Broward County Substance Abuse Advisory Board and was active on housing and homelessness. I know that his wife Rini and his wonderful daughter, Sophia and Alexis, will be in our thoughts. And then lastly, I just wanted to acknowledge also Kim, who's part of our family here. Her mom, 98th birthday would have been yesterday. And so our hearts are with you. With that, let's have a moment of silence. Oh, sorry. Commissioner Rodgers. I want to share something with me. Okay, yeah, go ahead. City of Plantation, that's one of our cities, right? Yeah. Boss Owen Duke, who developed much of Plantation, as was previously stated. Okay, I would like to also take a moment to acknowledge the tragic loss of Alexander Worm and his daughter. I know my colleagues said it, but we are feeling the love. We're going to be having a visual, one of those light up my world, light up Broward County on next Wednesday at 7 p.m. We're going to ask everyone, you don't have to go to a location. We're just asking you to step outside your door so your neighbors know that you're standing out here for that family. Okay? The land of the living, we want to make sure that family know how grateful we are. Thank you, Mr. Thank you. And I want to, at this time, also remember all the brave men and women who have served and continue to serve in our armed forces, both here and abroad. And thank them for the service, particularly thinking about this last Veterans Day. We should be especially thankful for all they've done. So if we could take a moment of silence, please. Thank you. Please take your seats. Okay, I want to welcome everybody to the meeting today. This is my final meeting as mayor, so I don't want to have to use this big gavel, you know. So you guys be on your best behavior today. We'll get through it. The music today was selected by Commissioner Rogers. She selected Footprints by TOK, Understand by Omale, and One Drop by Bob Marley and the Whalers. And thank you for the breakfast. Eggs and grits are great. That's perfect for me. We've got four proclamations today. And the first is for National Family Caregivers Month. And this presentation will be presented by Commissioner Fisher to a large collection of recipients. You need all those here? Yes. You want me to read them all? Okay, I will. Dr. Deborah Anzalone from the Florida Veteran Caregivers and Elizabeth Dole Foundation. Lawrence Militello, Administrator of Florida Department of Veterans Affairs, Alexander Sandy Nininger, State Veterans Nursing Home. Betty Chen-Sue is the Social Services Manager with the Florida Department of Veterans Affairs at the Nininger State Veterans Nursing Home. Stacey Lovelace, Human Services Counselor, also at the Veterans Nursing Home. Judy Weaver, Co-Founder, Education Director with Connected Warriors. Commander Kenneth Bingham, U.S. Navy Connected Warriors. Tino Negri, CEO of the ComforCare Home Health Agency. Dr. Lennison Cornero, Executive Director with Dr. Physiotherapy and Wellness. Diane Lamarca, Family Member. Reverend John Mariconti III, Family Member. Michelle Udilei, I hope I get that right, Family Member. Andrea Busada, Director of Broward County Elderly and Veteran Services. And Owen Walker, Manager of Broward County Veteran Services. Did I leave anybody out? Mayor, you did absolutely wonderful. I tried. Thank you so much. I tried. Thank you. It's an honor to provide this population today. It's special to know that our former County Commissioner and our State Representative Chip Lamarca's family is helping evolve. We, of course, have aunts and uncles and, of course, mamas here today to be with us. And so we're honored to be part, and caregivers themselves have actually come to participate in this. And I want to thank you, obviously, from the bottom of our hearts, what you do every day. And, of course, our staff, et cetera. So the proclamation reads as follows. It says, whereas the series of wars and conflicts in which our nation has been engaged over time since World War II has resulted in 14.3 million military and veteran caregivers who are parents, spouses, siblings, friends, and loved ones caring for those wounded, ill, or injured who have served our nation. Whereas there are more than 1.6 million veterans living in Florida and approximately 72,480 veterans and 29,464 military and veteran caregivers who call Broward County their home. Whereas the daily tasks of these military and veteran caregivers can include bathing, feeding, dressing, and caring for the grievous injuries of wounded warriors, administrating medications, providing emotional support, and caring for the family and, of course, in the home, and working outside the home to earn essential income. And whereas most military and veteran caregivers consider the challenging work they do as simply carrying out their civic and patriotic duty without realizing they are, in fact, caregivers and do not identify themselves as such. Thank you. Whereas alarming number of military and veteran caregivers, according to research, are suffering numerous debilitating mental, physical, and emotional effects as a result of their caregiving duties. Whereas those who are serving in these vital roles in our community should be recognized and supported. That's what we're doing here today. Whereas the Elizabeth Dole Foundation, founded by Senator Elizabeth Dole in 2012, adopted a comprehensive approach in its supported advocacy, working with leaders in the public, private, nonprofit, and faith communities to recognize military and veteran caregivers' service and promote their well-being. Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the Board of County Commissioners that the Board hereby designates the month of November 2025 as National Family Caregivers Month here in Broward County, Florida, in support of recognition of our family members, known as our hidden heroes, who care our nation's wounded, ill, and injured services, signed by our wonderful Mayor, Meefer. I'm so honored to provide this, Debra, to you and to all your family and to just to be honored to do this. And I want you to give us some words of encouragement, if you would. Thank you. Good morning. My name is Dr. Debra Anzalone, and I am honored to serve as a Veteran Caregiver Fellow with the Elizabeth Dole Foundation, representing more than 14.3 million military and veteran caregivers nationwide, including nearly one million right here in our beautiful sunshine state of Florida. These are the family members and loved ones who care for our nation's wounded, ill, and injured service members and veterans at home. They are the quiet heroes, often unseen, whose strength sustains the lives of those who once served us. As a proud Lighthouse Point resident and member of the Broward County District 4 community, it is an incredible privilege to accept this Hidden Heroes County proclamation on behalf of the Elizabeth Dole Foundation in recognition of National Family Caregiver Month. Today, Broward County joins more than 200 cities, counties, and states, including the state of Florida itself, in pledging to honor, recognize, and support our nation's hidden heroes, military, and veteran caregivers. My own caregiver journey began over 22 years ago, when our daughter Tracy, while studying abroad in Florence, Italy, was struck by a car, suffering multiple injuries and a severe anoxic brain injury that left her unable to speak, move, or eat. Her sister Tiffany, who had joined her for the trip, survived physically, but carries the invisible wounds of PTSD and survivor's guilt. I lost both of my girls that day, one to injury and one to trauma. That tragedy occurred while my husband, Navy Flight Surgeon Captain Financienne Loney, was serving as commanding officer of the U.S. Naval Hospital in Naples, Italy. The same hospital where our daughter was rushed for surgery. And it was in that very hospital, under his command, that I heard the sound no mother ever forgets. The crash cart racing toward my daughter Tracy's room as code blue echoed through the hallways. By the grace of God, Tracy survived. She spent months in a coma, breathing with a trach on a ventilator and being fed through a tube. We never left her side or gave up hope. Months later, on Easter Sunday, after Mother Teresa's nuns placed her relic over her heart, she miraculously opened her eyes. I believe that was one of those God winks that our foundation's founder, Senator Elizabeth Dole, often speaks of. Moments that remind us of hope and purpose. Although Tracy cannot speak or move and is still fed through a tube, 22 long years later, she continues to teach me the meaning of perseverance and unconditional love every single day. Years later, life would test me again. My husband, my rock, my hero, was diagnosed with the aggressive form of Alzheimer's disease. I found myself caring for two family members, both completely dependent on me. Nights became sleepless, days blurred together. There were moments I feared for our safety, as my husband's condition changed his personality, turning a gentle, brilliant physician into someone I could no longer recognize. I had to lock Tracy in her room at night and monitor her with cameras to keep her safe. There were nights I prayed for strength, just to make it through until morning. The exhaustion, the fear, the isolation. It was crushing. But like so many caregivers, I didn't stop. Because love doesn't stop. I struggled for years to find safe memory care for my husband after multiple failed attempts and even reporting one facility for suspected abuse. I finally found a home that understood what care with dignity truly means. The Alexander Sandy Nininger Veterans State Nursing Home. There, my husband is surrounded by his peers, honored veterans who understand service and sacrifice. Now relieved of the day-to-day nursing care I performed for years for my husband, I can now focus on being his loving wife again and use my experience to advocate for others as a Dole caregiver fellow and member of the VA State Nursing Home Advisory Council. Even with my background as a nurse and a doctorate of public health and health systems management from Tulane University, navigating the VA claims process was one of the hardest battles I've ever fought. It took three years to secure my husband's 100% total and permanent service-connected disability. Benefits he had earned through a lifetime of service. If it was that hard for me, with medical expertise, education, and support, imagine how impossible it feels to the average caregiver. However, exhausted, working multiple jobs, or struggling in silence at home. It is because of these experiences and the lessons learned alongside my husband during his 29 years of Navy service that I am now able to carry on his legacy, advocating for military and veteran caregivers throughout Florida. This is why proclamations like today's matter so deeply. They bring visibility to caregivers who have gone unseen for far too long. They tell every hidden hero in Broward County, you are not alone. We see you, we honor you, and we stand with you. To me, this proclamation is more than recognition. It is a promise that Broward County values the families behind every uniform and that no caregiver's sacrifice will ever go unnoticed. This is why today, with the continued support of my nephew, State Representative Chip Lamacca, and the Elizabeth Dole Foundation, I am committed to advancing statewide initiatives that strengthen awareness of the overwhelming challenges veteran caregivers face daily and improve the resources, services, and support networks available to them all across Florida. And as we celebrate National Family Caregiver Month, I leave you with the words of Mother Teresa, now St. Teresa. The fruit of prayer is faith. The fruit of faith is love. The fruit of love is service. And the fruit of service is peace. Thank you. We're going to all do a picture now. Follow me. We'll do a picture. That way. I'm right here. Right here. When you're in there, I'm going to get in front of you. There you are. Stand tall. Are you ready? I don't know. We have one right there. Commissioner Davis. Thank you very much for that. There are millions of caregivers throughout not only this county, but this country that you've just kind of given some hope with. Our next proclamation is for Native American Heritage Month. Commissioner Davis, we will be presenting it to Cypress Billy from the Seminole Tribe of Florida. And if you'd please make your way to the podium. It's indeed my honor to be presenting this proclamation. Part of the Seminole Tribe is in District 7, and this proclamation was requested by myself. Whereas Native American Heritage Month, also called American Indian, Alaska Native Heritage Month was established in 1990 to honor the first people of the United States. Whereas the goal was to raise awareness about the tribal nations and recognize their history and ongoing impact on the country. And whereas, according to the 2020 census data, 1,426 people live on the Seminole Tribal Land in Broward County. And whereas the Hollywood Seminole Indian Reservation is located within Broward County. Whereas this reservation is one of six federally recognized Seminole reservations in Florida, the other reservations are located in Big Cypress, Brighton, Immokalee, Fort Pierce, and Tampa. And whereas the true narrative of the Seminole people is primarily shared through internal community programs, tribal institutions, and cultural preservation efforts. And whereas Cypress Billy has spent many years introducing audiences and building bridges to Seminole culture. And whereas Cypress Billy is a tribal member from the Seminole Tribe of Florida, and his father is a former chairman. And whereas he is an accomplished and certified museum educator. And whereas Cypress Billy has participated in many outreach projects to help people learn about the Seminole Tribe by way of Jesuit schools in Tampa, presentations at the Florida Art Education Association Conference, virtual tours of the Atta-Taki Museum, and completion of the Project Zero 2025 program at the Harvard University Graduate School of Education. And whereas Cypress Billy is a passionate musician and is skilled in wind instruments, singing traditional and contemporary Seminole songs. And whereas he hopes to earn a law degree from Victoria Island, Washington, to advocate on behalf of the Seminoles. Now therefore be it proclaimed by the Board of County Commissioners of Broward County, Florida that the Board hereby proclaims November 2025 as Native American Heritage Month in Broward County and encourages all residents to take time to recognize and participate and celebrate this special month. Signed by our mayor. Thank you so much. Cypress Billy. Thank you, ma'am. Good morning, everybody. I appreciate that, Alexandra P. Davis. Thank you again. You're welcome. And of course, all other members here in the Broward County Board of Commissioners. I appreciate y'all for recognizing the month of November as Native American History Month, Heritage Month. On behalf of the Seminole Tribe of Florida, I would like to say Shanapashat. And although we can't change the dilemmas and the hardships indigenous people has faced in the past, we can change how we honor them today and for the years to come. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. If Pastor Wilson can join Commissioner Davis. Is the pastor here? Yes, he is. Awesome. All right. So you come with your fellow SEIU folks. Great to have you. Perfect. Good to see you again. All right. Proclamation requested by myself. Whereas Pastor Lester Wilson began his career in public service with the Miami Police Department as a public service aide, where he gained first-hand experience as a first responder and team player dedicated to ensuring public safety. Whereas Pastor Wilson served his country in the United States Army for seven years, where he developed a deep sense of duty and commitment to protecting others. Whereas a leader of SEIU 32BJ, the largest property service workers union in the country, he stands alongside his colleagues demonstrating the power of unity and collective strength. And whereas Pastor Wilson is a dedicated security officer proudly serving at the Broward Governmental Center East Building for the past four years. And whereas he represents a consistent reminder to us all of the critical yet often overlooked role that security officers play in keeping our communities and buildings safe. And whereas we honor Pastor Lester Wilson for his unwavering service, integrity, and steadfast commitment to protecting others. Now, therefore, be it proclaimed by the Board of County Commissioners of Broward County, Florida, that the board hereby designates Thursday, November 13, 2025, as Pastor Lester Wilson Day in Broward County, signed by our mayor. Thank you so much. Want to say a few words? Wow. I want to first thank God for all he has done and all that he's doing. Today is a great day. Let me put my other eyes on. Thank you, Commissioner Davis. Good morning, mayors and commissioners. My name is Lester Wilson, and I've served as a security officer at the Broward Government Center East right here for the past four years. Before that, I proudly served my country and the United States Army for seven years. First, I want to sincerely thank you for recognizing me today. I'm truly honored. It's a real pleasure to serve Broward County and to help protect this building, its workers, and our community. It's an honor to play a role in keeping our community and all of us safe. For me, this work isn't just a job. It's a calling. My team and I are the first line of defense here, making sure everyone who enters is secure and well kept. When emergencies happen, we're the first to respond and often the last to leave. But what some of you don't know is that we don't get paid for federal holidays. When the buildings are closed, we lose a day of pay. And this week, it hit especially hard on Veterans Day. While others were paid to stay home, many of our fellow officers who are veterans like myself lost a day's pay. During Thanksgiving week, many of us take nearly a 40% pay cut because of all of the closures. Then comes Christmas. When expenses rise and paychecks shrink, the holidays are supposed to be a time of gratitude and joy. But for us, they're some of the toughest weeks of the year. I take great pride in what I do, and I am sincerely grateful to be standing here today as a proud member of my union, 32BJSCIU, who was speaking on behalf of hundreds of contracted Broward security officers. What would truly honor our service would be to receive holiday pay for the essential work we do year-round. I want to thank everyone involved. Greater Mount Everett Missionary Baptist Church, will you stand and make some noise? 32! 32! Thank you, all commissioners, for your time. Thank you. Thank you. If you can see me, then you can lend me to see you. Right. Perfect. All right, awesome. All right, everybody, right here, right here. All right, congratulations, Pastor. And lastly, the final presentation is for Small Business Saturday, which we will celebrate the day after Black Friday. Commissioner Rogers, all yours. Good morning. Good morning. Mr. Mayor, colleagues, I'm honored and privileged and all of that good love. This morning, as I recognize and pay tribute to our small businesses, we say always that they are the largest employees across this country. Okay, create jobs, keep people employed, and yes, they do provide certain services that we could not do without. So, today, I'm recognizing two businesses. I recognize all of the small businesses in Broward County and across our state. But these are two special corporations, and I'll share with you before I read the proclamation. The persons are Carl Gordon, president of Donna's Caribbean Restaurant. He's currently in Jamaica, supporting the Hurricane Melissa relief efforts. He is represented today by Gail Graham as manager of Donna's Caribbean Restaurant, and I know she loves all of the locations, so I won't be specific. Recently partnered with this company, recently partnered with Hazel Rogers, that's me, to feed 900-plus federal workers at our Fort Lauderdale airport. And it was during, of course, you know how challenging it was for employees, but when a business step out and feed over 900 people, that is something that we need to acknowledge here today. He has 14 locations, 11 in Broward County, 2 in Miami, and, of course, 1 in Jamaica, 3 in District 9. I just have to recognize that also. District 9 makes some noise. Special thanks to Carl and his team for supporting our community always. Strong supporter of the first Caribbean multicultural festival in Broward County for over 25 years. He has vested interests, and he has supported well. We thank you. Then, of course, McGarney Bowen, Jr., People's Choice Restaurant, two locations, 1431 Northwest 31st Avenue, 8874 Miramar Parkway. Of course, you know that's Miramar. And he has been in business since 1989. Good to see you. Mr. Bowen, Jr. recently won the Grace Sizzle and Spice competition at the Grace Jerk Festival. That's this past Sunday in Miramar. And it's a Broward County event. Our folks come from everywhere to participate in these cultural activities. The event was partially sponsored by the cultural division, Broward County Cultural Division. Special thank you to Philip Dunlap and his team for supporting our broad, diverse community of Broward County. So thank you for being here. Thank you both for representing the businesses. We do appreciate you. And the proclamation reads, Whereas small businesses are the backbone of our nation's economy, accounting for more than 99% of all U.S. businesses, and employing nearly half of the private workforce, and whereas small local businesses are the largest employers nationally, creating two out of every three new jobs, and often providing more personalized, flexible, and rewarding workplace and larger corporate chains. Whereas supporting small businesses help keep money circulating within our community, strengthening the local economy, promoting entrepreneurship, and preserving the unique character that defines and defines our neighborhoods. It defines our neighborhood, and we recognize your value. Whereas locally owned businesses are operated by people who live in our community, they are deeply invested in its welfare, and are committed to long-term success and growth. And whereas small business owners play an active role in giving back, donating 250% more to our local charities and non-profit than larger businesses, thereby enriching our communities through generosity and civic engagement. And whereas small business Saturday celebrated each year on the Saturday after Thanksgiving encourages residents to support local entrepreneur shops, small and large, and make a lasting impact on their neighborhood. So we are asking you to remember shop local shop small for small business Saturday. Be it proclaimed by the Board of County Commissioners of Broward County, Florida, that the Board hereby designate November 29, 2025, as small business Saturday in Broward County, Florida, and urges all residents to recognize the importance of supporting small, independently owned businesses that contribute so much to the vibrancy and prosperity of our community. And then, of course, it's signed by our mayor, being for, thank you, mayor, on behalf of all of us. We recognize and thank you. Good morning. Good morning. Okay. First, I would like to thank God, and thanks for this amazing honor. I would like to thank Broward County, Florida, for everything. And the journey has, for this proclamation, this journey has not been easy, but through resilience and hard work, People's Choice is still around 37 years later. Thank you, everyone. The lady that when the boss is away, they used to say the mice is play, but she works. All right. So I want to recognize you for everything that you do. All right. Thank you. Good morning to the esteemed panel of Mayor Furr, Vice Mayor Bogan, and the hardworking team of the Broward County Commissioners, and ladies and gentlemen of the audience, good morning. On behalf of Carl Gordon, the president of Donna's Cabin Restaurants, I'm extending a sincere thank you for this proclamation as it relates to our small business Saturdays. Mr. Gordon has often said that success in any aspect is never the result of one person alone, but of a team working together with passion and purpose. And today's recognition is a perfect example of that. With that being said, I want to take the opportunity to continue to implore everyone to utilize their commitment, creativity, and to continue collaborating in ensuring the absolute success of every endeavor that this beautiful county has and will be initiating. Again, ladies and gentlemen, I thank you so much for this opportunity, and thank you for always making it, Donna's Cabin Restaurants, a taste of the island, simply the best. Thank you so much. The following are submitted for your consideration. Consent items are 1 through 79. Public hearing items are 80 through 87. Regular items are 88 through 101. I request the following withdrawals and other modifications to the agenda and note the following additional information. Withdrawals, none, other modifications. Item number 38, the board's consideration, is based upon the item as amended by the substitute attachment A to exhibit one submitted by the Public Works and Environmental Services Department Item number 59, the board's consideration of the item including the motion statement for motion B is based upon the item as amended by additional material number 75A submitted by the Cultural Division Item number 79, the board's consideration is based upon the item as modified by additional material number 79A submitted by the sponsoring commissioner Item number 87, the proposed amendments submitted by additional material number 87A and 87B have been withdrawn. The board's consideration is based upon the item as amended by additional material number 87C submitted by the county attorney's office. Item number 100, Commissioner Alexandra P. Davis' request to be added as a co-sponsor. Item number 97, 98, 99, and 100 be moved to consent. Time certain, item number 88, time certain at 12.15 p.m. Additional material, regular meeting. Items number 1A, 1B, board appointments. Item number 12A, work authorization number TYL-003 submitted by Transportation Department. Item number 38A, substitute attachment A submitted by Public Works and Environmental Services Department. Item number 54A, Exhibit 1, mutual termination letter submitted by Public Works and Environmental Services Department. Item number 59A, amended motion C submitted by Public Works and Environmental Services Department. Item number 75A, amended motion statement submitted by the Cultural Division. Item number 75B, Exhibit 2, proposed agreement submitted by Cultural Division. Item number 79A, amended motion statement submitted by Commissioner Alexandra P. Davis. Item number 93A, white paper and other backup information on Broward County identifies submitted by Commissioner Michael Udean. Additional material, public hearing. Item number 86A, amended proposed ordinance submitted by Commissioner Steve Geller. Item number 87A, amended proposed resolution submitted by Commissioner Alexandra P. Davis. Item number 87B, amended proposed resolution submitted by Commissioner Alexandra P. Davis. Item number 87A, amended proposed resolution submitted by Office of the County Attorney. With that, we'll see if anybody has any polls. Let's start over Commissioner Davis. Item 71, please. Which one? 71? 71. Commissioner McKenzie. Commissioner Fisher. Which one? I want to pull item number 9. Number 9. Senator Rich. Numbers 16, 19, and 20 for abstentions. 16, 19, and 20? Sorry, yeah, 16, 19, and 20. Okay. Senator Geller? Come this way. 47, 48, 79. 71's already been pulled, I believe. Let me get that again. 47. 48. Has 71 already been pulled? Yes. Okay, then 79. And 79. Yes. Mr. Udean. Vice Mayor Bogan. So, I was going to also address 47, 48, 71, and 79, which has already been pulled. So, I obviously don't need to pull that. I want to pull 40, pull 60, and 72. 40, say it again. 40, 60, 72. Okay, and I'm going to pick 61, pull 61, and 100. Is there anything left? There is a few left. I think that's our biggest pull for a long time. Yeah. Okay. With that, I need a turn. Thank you, Mayor. You make heads or tails out of that? So, today's consent agenda consists of items 1 through 79. The polls from that are items 9, 16, 19, and 20, 40, 47, 48, 60, 61, 71, 72, and 79. Wow. And added to the consent agenda are items 97, 98, and 99. Mr. Mayor, I move approval of the consent agenda as read by the county attorney. Okay. We have a motion from Senator Gellar and second from Commissioner McKenzie. All those in favor? Any object? That passes unanimously. We will go to item 9. And just so everybody knows, we have a time certain at 1215, a delegation request. We will have a shade meeting at 1230. And so, you know, if we get done by then, we'll go home. But if we don't, we'll come back on that. Okay. Commissioner Fisher. Thank you, Mayor. I pulled item number 9 because I think it's important. I know that we had briefings with staff and our port director, Mr. Morris, concerning our Port Everglades Master Vision Plan. I just thought it would be nice for the public to really just kind of get a couple of minutes overview. So, Mr. Perro, can we get Mr. Morris up just to kind of give us a quick overview? Because I think the board is just going through another transformation with this master plan and really exciting things are happening. I just wanted the kind of public to know about it. Absolutely. Thank you. I think it's a good idea. Mr. Morris. Which number are we at? Nine. Good morning, Mr. Morris. Good morning, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners, County Administrator. Thank you for the opportunity to share. You know, even though we've had 30 public meetings, I think there's never enough communication and reinforcement of the process as well as hopefully the outcome over the next 5, 10, 15, in 20 years as we talk about our Master Vision Plan. You know, this has been a process of nearly two years where we've partnered with industry-leading consultants as well as our port staff to engage. And this is about engaging with the business, engaging with the community, and engaging with our partners that make the port successful. And over those two years, we started with a market assessment that looks out 20 years. And, of course, nobody has the perfect crystal ball, but as we look at the tremendous growth that we've seen at Port Everglades, breaking records in all of our big three, cargo, cruise, and energy, we continue to see growth in all three of those aspects. So our Master Vision Plan focuses on reinforcing, evolving our port to meet the needs of our business partners in collaboration with our community, whether that's residents, local business, to maintain our position as a very strong economic engine with, as it stands right now, $28.1 billion of impact. Through this process, as I mentioned, 30 public meetings, all of those were interactive. And that feedback that we get from the community is tremendous in helping us make sure that we steer in the right direction. So we have a tremendous portfolio of projects at our disposal while we ensure that we reinvest all the port's revenues back into our infrastructure to continue to grow with our partners. Those projects range from modernization of our cruise facilities to important infrastructure and asset replacements, as well as very functional things, as we see with our bulkhead project that's ongoing today. So as we evolve from our previous Master Vision Plan to the current one, we hope with your approval today that that will be our roadmap as we look forward for the next 5, 10, 20 years and improve our port and continue to work with the tremendous business opportunities that we see before us. Very good. And thank you, Mr. Morris, and thank you for the input of the stakeholders because I think it's so important to get their feedback on how we can improve and make our port even better. And I know, just to reconfirm, we have international trade in our port, correct? We do. Thank you so much. And, again, I just thought it would just be nice to be everybody here. So without that, I'll move the item. Thank you. And I'd just like to say I'm very impressed with the Master Plan in general. I mean, that port is doing very good. I think I probably speak for all of us that we have a lot of confidence in not only you but the port staff as well. You guys are doing a great job. Appreciate that. So we have a motion. I'm sorry. Thank you, Mr. Morris. Senator Rich. I just wanted to make, Mr. Morris, just wanted to make one comment also is that, you know, I also was, you know, very impressed with the plan, but it seems to be hitting on all cylinders, which was great because it was crews, it was cargo, it was energy, it was everything. So just congratulations on the good work, and we'll look forward to keeping it up. Thank you. So we have a motion from Commissioner Fisher, a second from Senator Rich. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. We'll go to, thank you, thank you, Joe. We'll go to items 16, 19, and 20. Can we do these together? Okay. Senator Rich. Yeah. We'll do them all together? Yep. Yes? Yep. So, okay, these are items 16, 19, and 20. I serve on the board of the Barrett Behavioral Health Coalition, which would be financially impacted if 16 is approved, item 16. I also serve on the board of the Area-Wide Council on Aging, which would financially be impacted if items 20 and 20, 19 and 20 are approved. I do not receive any compensation for serving on either of these boards, and therefore have no actual statutory voting conflict. However, to avoid the appearance of a conflict, I'm abstaining on items 16, 19, and 20, and ask that this be reflected in the minutes. I'll take a motion. We have a motion from Commissioner Udine and a second from, I think Senator Geller had already beat you to it. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Those pass unanimously. I'm sorry. Passes 8-0 with one extension. Thank you. We'll go to item 40, Vice Mayor Bogan. This has to do with Monarch Hill. Just, everyone just take your vote. I obviously, as you all know, I have an adversarial position to Monarch Hill, so please take your vote and let's move it along. I'll take a motion from Monarch Hill. Yeah. We have a, who had a motion? From, motion. No motion, I guess it's dead in the water now. Senator Geller, motion second from Senator Rich. All those in favor? Any opposed? Yes, right here. Passes 8-1. Thank you, Mark. Thank you. We'll go to item 47 and 48. Should we take these together? You can also take... I was going to ask, Mr. Mayor, if 40, I pulled 47, 48, 71, 79. During the course of my discussion, it'll be apparent why I would like those discussed together. All together? Yes, sir. And should we do this? Okay. Okay. Okay, so, Senator Geller, go ahead with 47. Go ahead. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yep. I... Item 47 is mine, and I think it's, of course, a good thing because I only bring up items I think are good things. However, I received, I've called, spoken, and texted with Shane Strum, who's the CEO of both the North and South Broward Hospital districts. And there, he has a concern on these four items, and I've also heard some concerns from some of the ambulance companies that, as opposed to voting on them individually, there could be a cumulative impact on some of them. And that's why I believe it's 79 by Commissioner Davis, or 71. That's the complete rewrite, 79. And what I would recommend and what is being requested by Mr. Strum is, well, he has a concern not only on the ambulances, what impact that could have on the system. He is concerned that on one of them, there could be an impact on the hospital districts. And so I believe that none of these individually would cause any significant impact, but there is a concern that cumulatively they would. I think that Commissioner Davis actually has a very good idea with 79 that we should be doing a comprehensive look at all of not only the ambulance issues, what effect would they have on the ambulance system, but also what effect would they have cumulatively on the overall health care system. And I think that when the CEO of the two public hospital districts is requesting that there be additional study, I think that it's a reasonable thing to do. I am not saying that if these were brought up individually that any of them individually are a bad idea, including mine. But I think that it is appropriate to look at them holistically, and I think that Commissioner Davis has the right idea with looking at a comprehensive study. So I would ask that 47, 48, and 71 be, I guess, postponed indefinitely and rolled into the comprehensive study that Commissioner Davis has requested in 79. I'm assuming that this study, I'm not an expert on it, it's Commissioner Davis's motion, not mine, but that we'd be looking at, if we're looking at rewriting the entire chapter, I believe it's chapter 3 1⁄2, that this would include not only the effect on the ambulances, but the effect on the health care system overall, what effect would it have on the hospital, what effect would it have on the hospitals, et cetera. I have been told, I don't know if this is accurate, that, for example, BLS helps subsidize ALS. If this is true, we need to know this, and we need to look at this if we're deciding on BLS only. We need to make sure that there's not diversion away from certain hospitals to others. This is a complicated issue, and that's why I think that Commissioner Davis's 79 is the correct way of dealing with it, and that's why I'm asking that the other three items. I'd like to ask County Attorney, would it be correct in asking that 47, 48, and 71 be postponed, rolled into, or what would the correct motion be to say that I'd like them basically postponed until after we get the report that I understand under 79 would be from the EMS Council, County Staff, County Attorney's Office, hopefully with input from everybody else, from all interested parties, would come up with a proposed rewrite for us? I think the motion is exactly what you said. It's a motion to postpone 47, 48, and 71 until the study and subsequent actions in 79 have been completed. Okay. And that would be my, I guess, my motion, Mr. Mayor, and I hope there'll be a second. We have a motion by Senator Geller and a second by Senator Rich. We'll come back to that. First, we have Vice Mayor Bogan, then Commissioner Rogers. So I agree in part. I think Commissioner Davis's motion is appropriate, and I agree with what she's done. I think it's smart to do analysis, and I was going to agree totally with Senator Geller's, but then I was talking to somebody before our meeting today, and they said, well, you're going to study, but what are you studying? Because normally what we're asking in the others, 47, 48, 71, for the county attorney to come back with something, right, direct to come back with an ordinance. So why don't we study it, but what are we going to study? Why don't we study what that ordinance would be, if that makes sense? Because, so let's say he drafts an ordinance, and that's what we study, what the ordinance is going to be, versus let's just let it die right here and do the study before the ordinance is drafted. So I'm kind of, so that makes kind of sense to me. Let's get the county attorney to do what they were going to do, and then we study what those ordinances, if we need to tweak that ordinance, not approve the ordinance. Does that make sense? Kind of, sort of, but. So I first was going to agree with what Senator Geller was saying, but then I was talking to somebody and said, well, what are you going to study? And so let the county attorney do his thing and then come back and study that. So I'd love to get your, you know, my commissioner's input on that. County attorney wants to weigh in for a second. County attorney wants to weigh in here. I think that the way Commissioner Davis has her item framed in 79, regardless of what you do with 47, 48, and 71, the way she has it framed I think is the right order, because we're not experts on this sort of service. This staff has the expertise, so if they study it, they put it together, the EMS Council chimes in, then we can certainly draft whatever results from that. I see. Vice Mayor, 47 and 48, just so you know, but for the, you know, Senator Geller saying these things should be studied holistically to see what the impact of the system is, these are otherwise 47 and 48 are fully cooked and they would be ready for action on December 9th. This is just a set for public hearing. The other two items are motions to direct and basically study. Okay. And that takes care of that counter thought. Move it on. Commissioner Rogers. Can you turn your mic on? Your mic. I would like to yield to the commissioner who is sponsoring 48 because I did have some comment and I have an amendment I was going to propose for further clarification. So I would like to hear from the commissioner now that we have pulled the item and we might just table the item. I would like to hear her comment. That's the only way we can talk. Okay. I do have a line here, though. Okay. So let me keep going through. Did you want to speak on this after this? Well, I mean, I did hear Commissioner Rogers and Senator Gellar, but I also, based on what the attorney said, that 47 and 48 has already been thoroughly looked at. I've spoken to ambulance services. I've spoken to lobbyists. I've spoken to a lot of folks based on 48 that I know as we've been working on for some time. And I get that CEO Strom wants to look at everything holistically. My only concern would be that it would have to be timely and not open-ended. And so if you were to do that, I believe it's January. Can somebody from Monica, from staff, explain what happens? How do we look at this? And is it normally at the end of the year? Because I don't want to open-ended because we're ready to go. The county attorney wants to weigh in. I just want to clarify because I don't think I was precise on what I was saying. I meant by develop these things would be ready for action. I didn't mean that the – I'm not aware that the EMS Council has opined on these, and I don't know staff's position. So I don't want to imply that I was saying from a substantive standpoint it's ready. I mean from a procedural standpoint. Because that was my whole point of let – Commissioner Davis' item of analysis was great, and that's my whole point. That's what I was saying. You said it was fully cooked. You didn't – what I meant was to take a look – I'm sorry, just to take a look and have somebody come and do analysis of everything as it is today. Anyway. Okay. Back to Senator Rich. But I did have a question for the administrator that wasn't answered. I'm sorry, what? I had a question for the administrator that wasn't answered. Sorry. Thank you. I didn't want to interrupt, but yes. So my understanding is as the EMS Council just deliberates on a normal basis, if there were things that were brought to their attention or that they felt needed to be addressed, they would then potentially send something to the board to request that. So that has not happened to my knowledge for some of these items, and some of these items are policy matters that are being asked to be reviewed by the commission. So it's kind of a separate process. I do understand that they are going to be meeting on December 4th, and they intend – it was my understanding – they intend to look at all of these items and have some deliberation on it, on these items as are presented by the board. And then my expectation is that they might have something to come back as additional material for the December 9th meeting, based on what you all are discussing here today. Thank you. So that would actually work if they could get it done by then and staff could look at it for the December 9th. Yeah. Senator Rich. Thank you. I want to go back to the concept that Senator Gellar mentioned. Each one of these individually may be okay, but each one is benefiting a certain priority and a certain group of people. So I think that there needs to be the study first, and I'm glad to hear that it would be ready for December 9th. But I think we need to do that first before we start passing things, because one thing and another thing can impact the system, and the first thing we should be caring about is its impact on the health care system, the entire health care system in the state, in the county. And we have enough problems with what's going on with health care that I think we need to take into consideration each and every aspect of our health care system here and how each one of these impacts that before we make a decision on any one of them individually. I'm going to weigh in for one second. Okay. Okay. One second. The board meeting on December 4th, that is a board that has all the professionals that should have a clear idea of what's needed, what's not needed, and to your point would know whether or not things are out of balance. I think what we've been wanting to do is let them weigh in, hear what they've got to say. Okay. These are the people that we've been relying on for years and years to make sure that we've got the right mix. I want to hear from them first. I want to hear from them first. And after we hear from them, I'm willing to entertain what Commissioner Davis is talking about. But I think we should be hearing from them first. You know, we can set it for public hearing because that will be after that. We will hear, have all that information. If we're not happy with what we're getting or it's confusing or it's, you know, it sounds like something's amiss, then that may be the time to look at it holistically. But I think it's jumping the gun to go there. That's me. So there is a motion on the floor. And there's a second. So I'm going to... Commissioner Roddy. Commissioner Roddy. Commissioner Roddy. Okay, because I yielded to the answer of 48. Okay. So you're recognizing me now to continue my request, although it is in support of the procedure that we might just want to do a study, whatever it yields. But I can tell you what I would like to be included because I will not be here. So if I don't speak it now, my colleagues won't know what it is that we are supporting. So I know that I did have a conversation earlier this morning with our attorney. And he was very good, but I told him I wanted to put it on record that we are asking for, I'm asking for us to look at the different codes, to look at the different ordinances, look at the various definitions. That sounds like a study, right? I might not call it a study, but that's what I'm asking for in my amendment. That was my proposal for my amendment. Classification of service, revising requirements and procedures for certification. All of those things would be what I would want to be in the ordinance that I would like to amend. But now I don't know where to go. Do we say, okay, this is a friendly amendment and it will be all the points that we're looking to discuss? Mr. Mayor, everything she's suggesting is covered in my proposal, which is a comprehensive look. So I have no objection with incorporating by reference everything that she asked for. Are you okay with that? I am fine. Okay. Senator Geller, if you would articulate your motion. My motion is that we have a comprehensive look at the ordinance, which is exactly what Commissioner Davis' motion number 79 is. I think it's a good motion. The concern that I have, as I said, is I don't think we should be doing this piecemeal. I also don't think we can be ready on December 9th if there's a December 5th meeting that's four days before of the EMS Council and there's got to be some time. But I agree with Commissioner Davis it should not be an open-ended period. Recognizing that we have both Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year holidays coming up, I think that it would be appropriate to postpone it for 60 days, 70, you know, either the first or second meeting in January is when it should come back. That way, after the EMS Council meets, there will be time for the private sector, the hospital districts, everybody else to react to whatever they're doing. Just because they make recommendations, which I don't even know if they do make recommendations, that's not gospel for us. We'll take a look at them. But I agree, Commissioner Davis, you don't want it to be an open-ended thing. So I think the appropriate thing to do is to look at this holistically, do everything, and say that this will come back at one of our January meetings as determined by administration, you know, so that we know it's not open-ended, but give time for both EMS Council to look at it and people to react and staff to look at everything. And that would be my motion, to postpone 47, which is mine. I think it's a good idea, but I think that they need to be looked at collectively, 47, 48, and 71, to come back at one of our January meetings for discussion. Or perhaps my preference would be that they all come back as one motion, but we'll see what happens from that report. Okay, would anybody else like to speak to this motion? I don't want to speak to it, but I want to just see if the person whose item it is is okay with what we're amending on the fly. I'm very respectful to people's wishes who sit on the stairs with me, but it seems like we just got interference, if you will, on the items being dealt with individuals just so that each person can defend their 48, 47, and 49, and 79, as opposed to now saying, let's just stop with this and do it. Because it's my impression, when I'm briefed by staff, it has been fully looked at. No, it's not my impression. I'm just saying, before we bring it to us, legally it's been tested. So I don't have a dog in the fight, but I have a lot of respect for the people on the stairs. And just to change things in midair, it concerns my spirit. It concerns me. I just want to make sure that the authors, I know Senator Gale just said, his is okay to be like that. Fine. I'm with you on that one. But 48, and 79, I want to make sure that my colleague to my left is okay with that before I support something. Any other one? Anybody else want to speak to the motion? I guess my... Wait, I just want Commissioner Udine. Commissioner Udine. Are you our representative on the EMS? I am not. Who is our representative on the EMS? I don't think I am. Do we have one? No, you were, though. Weren't you? I was on the court. There was something with the jail capacity task force that we had, but I don't believe it was on EMS. Okay. I've never been to an EMS. Who's the staff person in the county that's responsible for this? Lenny, I think. Okay. No, we're just double-checking. There is no county commissioner representative on the EMS council. I didn't think so. I didn't think I would. Otherwise, I would have missed a few minutes. There is not. There's no appointment. I was double-checking that. But that resides, the regulation side of it is under Mr. V. Alpondo. This has, like, fire chiefs and it's got a load of people. Right, but it's close coordination, obviously, with OMETS, Office of Medical Examiner and Trauma Services. And so Allison Zerbe and, of course, Dr. McDougal. Go ahead. Okay, so I say that because while it's in Lenny's division, I'm sure that Lenny's not the one that's dealing with the nuts and bolts of this. This requires a lot of expertise on this, and I would support Senator Gellar bringing it back at a reasonable time. I'd like to see a report from the EMS council, and I'd also like to see internally our expertise, the people that are responsible for this. I'm only concerned when it comes to this for patient care and health care and the system of getting advanced. Because I've heard the same things, too. I've heard that there's a skim of BLS that makes this much can topple the system, you know, one way or another. And I'm reluctant to see, you know, nips and tucks along the way because then, unfortunately, I think we end up with what we have in our taxi code, which we're going to talk about later, where you have so many nips and tucks that it's hard to have a comprehensive program. And this one, to me, is too important not to do this the right way with the hospitals, with the two public safety hospital net districts, because if we do this wrong, and it affects their bottom line, every resident in Broward County is not only going to pay for it monetarily, but they could pay for it with health. So that's a long way to say I'd like to see information, but I'd like to see some real information outside of, you know, a specific hospital, a specific lobbyist. I'd like to see somebody tell me what this really is all about when we talk about certificates of need and how people are getting to hospitals and ALS. Commissioner Fisher. Second. I agree. Two things. Number one, our EMS council is made up of approximately 50 individuals. Fifty. Fifty. Fifty. Five-zero doctors, really experts in this type of field. And so it's imperative, and I think Ms. Superior has assured me through her words today that they will definitely hear all these items before we can vote on them, because I think those have become our experts, as what Commissioner Udine was talking about. I just want to make sure that we're, Senator Gallo's going, 47, 48, and 71, but we're going to move forward 79. Is that correct? Okay, I just want to make sure that, if everybody agrees, that's what the motion is. I don't want to table 79, because that's the whole purpose of doing the study. Okay, because I heard it differently. I know exactly that. That's why I wanted 79. My question on this is we're asking county staff to review application and approval processes, but I don't know why we aren't asking the EMS. We are asking them all. Yeah, Mayor, we're asking EMS to accept. Yeah. That's part of it. The whole thing is going to them as well. Is that your understanding, county attorney? Yes, I think staff will enlist EMS counsel, and they'll get whatever expertise they need in order to comply with the first part of item 79. Okay. And, Mr. Mayor, to be clear, because I thought I'd said this, that I'm looking for input from the EMS counsel, from staff, from the county attorney, and I'm hoping that the private sector and, you know, the hospital districts, that everybody is going to be providing staff with input, and perhaps we need a workshop or something on this after we get it, or I don't know if we need that or not, but I just want to get this complicated issue that could have far-ranging ramifications, and that's why I want us to do a comprehensive look that includes but is not limited to the EMS counsel, staff, county attorney, and I'm hoping that the hospital districts, the ambulance companies, the private hospitals, the for-profit hospitals, everybody's going to provide information. Sorry. This is my motion, 79. And when I discussed it with staff, it meant everybody, all the stakeholders. Right. That goes without saying. Right. Okay. If they're going to do a review and look at all the processes, it's going to take everybody involved. One of the things I did ask for, though, is that they also survey the users because that's not normally what happens. Who is using the service? How do they feel? And so we want that included. So it's a comprehensive study, and I'd hope that that's what staff would intend to do. But my question is, I know you mentioned there's nobody on the EMS counsel from the commission. Why is that? So I'd have to look at the composition of that counsel. I don't know it off the top of my head. So maybe we could look at that as well. I think maybe from this county attorney's office might. Maybe look at that and see how that can be changed because I do believe in such an important counsel that a board member should sit on it. I just don't know if that's a statutorily established board. So that's why I'm asking the county attorney's office to see if they can opine. Okay. We have two public speakers. I just want to ask a quick question. Senator Geller, I guess both of you, really, Monica, so we mentioned all of these entities, right? Who's going to reach out to all the privates and public hospitals to get that information in a time and fashion? You are? Who's going to do that? I mean, we said a bunch of things, but where does that burden lie? So we will take the point on that to reach out, and that will be handled through the regulatory side, through Lenny's office. And so we will reach out to all those entities. Okay, and the transporters? Yes. Okay. Thank you. We have two public speakers? I know it's a shot, but here's the thing. We're saying something in a motion. I just want to make sure that all that we said and all that I think is in there. So I'm just verifying the process that's going to move forward. Are you satisfied with that? I'm satisfied if the two originators of these bills, if you will, or motions are satisfied. I just don't like taking things out of the air, putting them in one, and moving forward with it. If someone took the time to put it on the agenda, I think we should take the time to bet. I do. They're okay? I'm okay. All right, Commissioner. I would like to just amend my motion just to include the date that needs to be brought back, which is the first commission meeting in January. So there's only one, so the first meeting in January. And then you can go ahead. I was talking to Drew about how many meetings in January. Sorry. There is only one established at this point. If the clerk could read the names for the public speakers, please. There are two members for number 79, Raul Rodriguez, followed by Charles Maimon. Good morning. State your name, please. Answer. Yeah, we hear you good. Thank you for the opportunity to speak here today. I'm a proponent of putting everything together to order 79 so we can take this to study. I started this business 14 years ago from a small business, and we've been operating in Broward County since 2016. Because we went through the due process, your county staff and the EMS Council did the proper study. They said that there was a need, and we were able to come in. Ever since then, they've done other studies and have said there was no need. I request, if possible, for everyone to join the orders at bay to 79 so you guys can properly do a study, inquire the need that's out there. Remember, at the end of the day, this is not your standard business. We transport people's lives. There has to be a study to make sure you do things the right way. The liability that you guys would be incurring if you just decide to open it up to anything and everyone and approve it will cause a significant strain in the health care transportation sector. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next. Good morning, Mayor. Commissioners, Charles Maiman, MCT Express. Item 79 and the three other items that you all are addressing, individually and collectively, have a large potential impact on the delivery of ambulance service in Broward County. I know each of you understand that. We support, or I would support, which is what I was standing up here to ask you to do, Senator Geller's motion. I'm going to stop here with what I was going to say and just want to point something out to you. I'm a previous member of the Broward EMS Council. I sat on the council for 12 years, but that was about 15 years ago. The EMS Council, as has been pointed out, are the folks in the community. You have physicians, nurses, firefighters. There's some private representation on the council. But I just want to point out to you that what you're asking the EMS Council to do is not a quick thing. They need a little bit of time. Having sat on the council myself, I know that a subcommittee can be formed because you have 50 members, so it gets a little difficult. And so what I would just suggest to you as you go through this, and Allison Zerbe is here, certainly. She's your staff member and can speak to it. I think the council will come back to you with a lot of good information and answer your questions. But I just would ask that I know that you all want to move this along, but give them enough time. Because having come from the council and sat on these committees before, it takes time. So we do support Senator Geller's motion, and thank you. Thank you for that perspective. Appreciate that. Mr. Mayor, I got word that we can have somebody from this commission on the council that was done in the past, and somehow it just got lost and was never done anymore. So I'd like for the attorney to explain how a commissioner can get on the council. County attorney. Sure, and Adam's here, so he can correct me if I say anything wrong. But Adam said that the commissioner used to be, years ago, designated to serve on the council, but that for, I don't know if it was a year or two or a number of years, there was a vacancy in that. And then during one of the recent rewrites of the board, the membership changed, and I think it removed the commissioner category. But Adam, is that correct? Correct. So it could be reversed if that's the direction. Okay, in just a couple of days, we're going to be doing all different assignments. So this is a good time to take that up and see if there's an opening on that because... Although you might need to rewrite the code again. Well, we'll take this as direction if it's okay unless there are objectors to go ahead and rewrite it and then bring it back. Is there general consensus here of wanting to have somebody on the MS? I just want to be cautious, Mayor, of, you know, years ago when folks would sit on, commissions would sit on purchasing items. I just don't want to make sure that the ethics code that we have now and somehow, I just don't want to get that commissioner, whoever it is, appointed on that board to be subject to ethics, to be subject to... I just want to keep... I don't know if it needs to be totally separated or not. I just want you to look at that because I don't want to, by any means, get in those crosshairs. Yeah, good point. Good point. I have one more public speaker. John Milledge. John Milledge. And then, Commissioner, I'll get to you. Thank you, Mayor. John Milledge, attorney for HCA. I'm here on item 71, and I just kind of obviously listened to the conversation, and there's a discussion of a global review of this, which is understandable. I just want to get a clarification and kind of follow up to what Commissioner Bogan said, that the motion would include really the county attorney on 71 authorizing him to produce some work product because if you don't have something to review, then, you know, you need to have something before you. This 71 emanated from a request from HCA. What we're looking to do is move patients ourselves free of charge from the plantation, ER and State Road 7 out to Westside, about two miles plus down Broward Boulevard. That's it. You know, we don't want the patients to pay. We want quick service. And currently under your ordinance, you know, this is an allowed activity. It's in your ordinance. We can do it now. But we need a piece of paper to go to the state because we need to get a CON from them. So that's the no-man's land we're in right now. So I would just ask, as part of this motion, at least you authorize the county attorney to produce some work product in this regard to be reviewed in all this because if you don't do that, then they're not reviewing what we're asking for, and then we're delayed and delayed and delayed. So we'd ask you, as part of that, if you can ask the county attorney to do the work product and bring it back, you know, when you're reviewing the whole pot. So thank you. Does the maker of the motion understand what Mr. Millers is asking? I do. I have no objection to saying that this is something that, of course, has to be discussed and the county attorney can draft. I wouldn't want it to be a proposed ordinance because we're not ready at this point. But that county attorney should draft something working with you to let the EMS council know exactly what it is that you're looking at so that that's something that can be included in the discussion. And I agree with you on that, Mr. Miller. I just, since it was my 79, I think holistically looking at everything, because, I mean, I have 48 in there, too. That's going to be looked at. 71 is going to be looked at. All of them are going to be looked at equally. So there's no special look at 71 as opposed to 48. It's a comprehensive look at everything that's on here that we're saying should be rolled up under 79. I think you're just asking to be included. Commissioner Green. We're just going to ask a point of information to the last speaker. On the council that we have, we all have an appointment on there. We appoint someone specific from each of our offices, correct? Yeah. I think there's even on today's agenda, I believe there was an appointment to the EMS council. Yes. Yeah. No, no. We each office appoints somebody on there that gets up to that. The only thing I'm going to add to this is after sitting through this now even more, I'm convinced more than ever that I have to support Senator Geller's motion. This is an item that has so many different tentacles and there's so many different things. I want to understand this before I totally start taking votes on these one at a time because I think that there are issues that will flow out of these. So that I understand this, this means that 48, 49, and 71 would not be set for public hearing, correct? Okay. I might make an... Those would be postponed until after the work product on 79 is brought back. Correct. Just making sure. I'm just pointing that out. Yes, sir. Okay. Mr. Mayor, it is hopeful. It's my hope that 47, 48, 71 may never be heard because they may be one work product which comes out of this study that would include 47, 48, 71, whatever gets included. It's probably going to be one bill, so we may never have to hear 47, 48, 71 separately. Okay. Commissioner Udian, did you want to ask the speaker from before? No. I mean, I got my question. Okay. I understand that part of the whole thing. I'd just like to make sure that we get patients, service the best way possible, the most cost-effective and healthiest way to go from there. That's really all. I think we're all thinking that. Commissioner Rogers. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Mayor, I just want for everyone to understand, to include myself, that comments made here about proposing to classify and clarify the different type of services will be a part of the discussion. Yes. Not because it's written in 49, but it was discussed here. I think that's understood. County Attorney. I said that I incorporated. Right. And, Mayor, I just want to make sure that we have a clear direction. So, staff and legal staff are to bring back to the board in the first meeting in January, which is the only meeting in January, basically an analysis of all of these various facets of this so the board can make decisions. And, at that point, the county attorney's office will be directed to draft any ordinances that you may want to bring back afterwards. Yes, but my understanding, and the EMS Council needs to be front and center on this. Absolutely. We won't. If we're unable to do it for whatever reason because the EMS Council hasn't given us the input by that time, then we'll let you know that's the answer. But we won't be driving this. It'll be driven by staff and the EMS Council and their expertise. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Okay. With that, all those, anybody else want to speak? We're good. All those in favor? What is the motion? I want to ensure that it has a timeline on there. Yours didn't. What's that? I'm sorry? What's the motion? He's already made the motion. Okay, the motion. It's already been seconded. To repeat the motion. Please repeat the motion with the timeline that I recommended. Yes, ma'am, that 47, 48, 71 be indefinitely postponed, that we direct the EMS Council to take a look at under, it's already under your motion 70, well, your motion 79 is calling for a rewrite of Chapter 3 1⁄2, that we ask the EMS Council to take a look at that and to come up with recommendations, that we ask the county attorney's office, county administration, work with the EMS Council to make sure that after the EMS Council issues, well, before they issue the report or recommendations, and afterwards that the hospital districts, the private sector, the ambulance companies, the private hospitals, the consumers all have the opportunity for input, and then after that occurs that we would ask county attorney's office to bring back to us a proposed ordinance at our first meeting in January. Now, at that point, we may or may not want to further amend it before public hearing. I have no idea. You know, just because the EMS Council has a recommendation doesn't mean we're necessarily going to follow it. But, yes. Senator Gellar, Mayor, may we bring back basically sketched out proposed ordinance because the board's going to have to give us policy direction at that point, and then within a meeting or two after that we could have it final and ready for public. I don't know what I was saying that I'm hoping for. Thank you. Issues, proposals, but we don't want to postpone this indefinitely. We'd like you to have whatever that is, that draft, at our January meeting. Okay. Everybody's clear? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Passes unanimously. All right. We're going to go to item 72. 60. 60. Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. 60. 60 is a very quick one. I just wanted to – we are – it is an – you picked 60. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I thought I did. I was going to – I just wanted to see if we can call Lenny for 60 real quick. Mr. Villalpondo. Thank you, Lenny. Yes, sir. Lenny, when it comes to biosolids like the PFAS, I just want to ask you, can we look at different options, P3s, design, build, or just not the old way these things have ever been done where you design, take a year, build, take a year, before you know it's 20 years already and then nothing's done. Absolutely. In fact, Alan Garcia and I were talking about that yesterday, and we're definitely going to include some options in that. And open up to all these companies to bid on it. Okay, great. That's all I have. Yes, sir. I just want to follow up on a question. Commissioner Eugene. I want to make sure – I'm in agreement with what Commissioner Bogan said, but I want to make sure with this item that we're not – as we move this forward, we're actively looking for any state or federal grants that would be available to do this. And if us performing this in a certain way voids one of those out, I want to be very careful as we go. I think that Commissioner Bogan's right to push this. I agree we should push this, but I have a feeling that this is going to be something through all municipalities, all water service, all these places that is going to be so expensive that they're going to have to come up with other ways to help fund this rather than doing it through local tax dollars. County Administrator. Thank you. And yes, thank you, Mr. Del Pondo. So we've had extensive conversations, not just with this item, but all of our procurements and looking at the most efficient way and expeditious way and certainly cost-effective way to do these projects. The other thing on this one that I just want to point out is we have 11 partners. Right, that's why I was going to pull it. Right, it's not just us by ourselves. So I just want to make sure that... Let me, yeah, the part, the fact, the reason I was going to pull it was because this is a very big milestone. The fact that we are having an interlocal agreement with 11 cities together to put together a wastewater treatment and to deal with the, I mean, to deal with the biosolids. This is a huge step. But we can't afford not to do it because if you've been keeping up with the news, what's happening with biosolids all over is where they went for a long time, they were allowed to do a land application. That's not going to be available anymore unless we go through this process. So we have to go through this process. But the fact that we're doing it jointly with 11 other cities, and I wouldn't be surprised to see other cities join in, is a huge step. And one that I think I want to commend Alan, and I know they've been working on this for three or four years now, and worked hard on it. And that's a lot of collaboration with a lot of cities to narrow down from 19 different processes down to seven, down to one. It's just a lot of work. A lot of good research and a lot of hard work. And I just want to see how much I appreciate it. I think it's really good, and I will entertain a motion. Oh, did you want to say? Go ahead. I'm sorry. I just, since, you know, because of the sunshine law, I just wanted to let you know. So with the PFAS in our water, right? The goal is let's get this toxic. We have PFAS in our water. The goal is to get this toxic garbage out of our water. Well, the way we originally were going to do it is we were going to hire a company to design, and that would take a year. Then we were going to go and hire a company to build, and that would take a year, maybe, not just a year to build, but to find a company. And by the time you know it, it's six, seven years, eight years down the road. And so I talked to Lenny. Lenny explored different options. Now we've come up with a way where it's a design-build combo, I don't know the name of it, where it's going to move faster. And so maybe the old way that the county does things where it takes 10 years to get something done, we can get it down half the time or more. And that's why I called you up, and I appreciate everything you do and appreciate that. Do you want to move the odd? Sure. Mr. Rogers. Mike. Can you share with me, how do you engage the other cities? There are 31 municipalities. You named 11. Tell me what would stop another city from participating. What is it that we're not doing together? Well, the ones in the southern part of the county are part of the large user agreement with Hollywood. So that's seven cities there. I guess you'd have to ask Alan on the rest of it. I don't know why the rest would not be on it. Is Alan here? Yes, Mr. Garcia. I was just going to ask. He can probably best be answered to this one. Have we ever made an even attendance to a Broward League of Cities meeting and be on the agenda on this item? The board members are all elected officials. That might help. Mr. Garcia. Commissioner Rogers, it's 11 because they're the 11 utilities that operate a wastewater treatment plant. If the utility is just a water provider, they don't operate their own wastewater treatment plant, like Mayor Furr said. Some people send their wastewater to Hollywood to be treated. We've got 11 large users that send it to our facility to be treated. So it's only those that actually operate a physical wastewater treatment plant that are generating the biosolids. So that's why there's 11 participants, because there's 11 wastewater treatment plants. At any given time, are you going to ask the cities, those that are not participating, that they have to contribute? No. No. It may ultimately affect some of the rates of the large users. Like, if Hollywood participates, even though our goal is to try to get this process done cheaper, because costs are going up and up. You've got to truck it further. You know, the available land farm spaces are less. That's really one of the goals, is to just do this thing collaboratively, get it done cheaper, and have a system that will be good and viable forever. Yeah. I mean, my hope is Hollywood does that, because there's eight trucks a day going to Palm Beach. Every day, every day, every day, Palm Beach isn't going to keep accepting her by herself. And they're not going to keep taking what it is. That's why this is so important. Anyway, thank you. Very good work. Very good work. Are you okay with that? Okay. I move it. Okay. We have a motion and a second by Commissioner Udine. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. 61, real quick, this is on the dunes, and I am just, I'm totally in favor of this. Would love to have more money go to this, if possible. But more importantly, is this needs to get started quickly, because there's a window here of when you can do this, because of turtle season. We are, it needs to get started, like, yesterday. So, anyway, if there's a way that this can be expedited, I would ask for that. And I agree, Mayor, because obviously our district's in the Coastal Alliance. Exactly. Absolutely. Whatever we can do to get this thing done before March. I'll move that, sir. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Thank you. Item 72, Vice Mayor Bogan. Monica, Monica, Monica. This is from County Administration 72. I didn't have a chance to talk at all on briefing this week. I would have brought it up in briefing. But we were here, I don't know, a month or two ago, and we talked about going to South Africa. And I was going to go, I looked at a sister city, and then I know Commissioner Davis wanted to go. And because of all the issues on how we're spending taxpayer money, I decided to back out so Commissioner Davis can go. And I just don't understand, now you're putting something on that, for staff, I don't get why staff would be priority over a commissioner, but the whole point was one person going. Why do we need to send any staff? I went two years ago to Canada on an economic trip, and Paola did a great job. I mean, she got the whole agenda down, she did everything, but quite honestly, I didn't need her to go with me. I didn't need her to come to Canada. She was great. She did all the meetings and planning and gave me an agenda of where to go, where to be, and everything. I just, you know, I didn't need staff to go with me. They went, fine, I don't care. But now things are different. And I just thought that maybe either I didn't get the sentiment of our board conversation, or I didn't think you, someone didn't get the sentiment, I just don't see, and now this is not just one staff person, I think you got, you're asking a two staff person, I don't think we should have any staff going. I really don't. I think a commissioner should go, if we have the money for another one, another commissioner should go, you know, another commissioner. I just don't get why staff would have to go. We're not idiots. We're adults that can handle our schedules, can handle everything. So that's my point. Commissioners, you decide. I thought we decided that we were going to send one person, and that's where I'm at. I'll leave it up to you guys. Monica. So this item, and you're right, this is an item that, you know, you guys opined and voted on a commissioner to go. Historically, for the last, I had our team look back for the last, like, 11 years since Paola's been with us doing this exact work, the international work. She's been on 12 previous missions. So she has personally gone with whoever the commission person has been to go on these mission trips. It is not the typical approach that we've had more than one. The only time we've had more than one staff person has been when there's been a specific relation for the port. For example, there's been a couple of mission trips where the port director had attended over the last 11 years. So then why are you putting it on? I don't get it. Well, the item is put on at the request of Commissioner Davis, but it's my staff, and that's why I put it on, because it's, you know, being a request for an additional staff person coming on to the trip. So I don't know if the commissioner would like to add anything else. Yeah, I can explain a little bit of it. And I've been on several missions also, and it's a delegation. It's not like a mission of one. And so not only is the county going, you have the state, you also have municipalities also attending as well. And so it takes a collaboration. You're not just going to bring it out there. There is ways to approach trade missions. And that's why even at the state level, they ask for collaboration with the counties and the cities to go as a delegation. Now, the reason why I mentioned intergovernmental affairs is because when you go on these missions, when you set them up right, you're not just meeting with the business folks and the chambers of commerce and so on. You're meeting with elected officials, but not just those, also departmental heads. And just as we do here, we're the policymakers, but then you have the department heads and those folks that actually do the day-to-day. And these are the folks that you'll be discussing with as the intergovernmental affairs person. Once you get back, there are collaborations with those department heads, whatever we decide to do jointly. And there are missions that basically, they talk about, you mentioned the port, but there are other things that you have collaborations on. And so that was just my take on it because other counties do the same. Miami-Dade doesn't just go with one person. If you're going to make a comprehensive trade mission, bring back results, you would need different stakeholders from the county to go. But that was something I threw out there. If you don't feel that it's the right timing, that's fine. But there is justification. It's done in the past, and other counties do it. I guess you hit, Commissioner Davis, on the last point about the timing. I understand about trade missions. I've been on them legislatively and so forth. But I don't feel that this is the time where we should be sending a full compliment to people to go on this trip. We have all kinds of, we've tightened our belt here in many ways. And I have no problem with Commissioner Davis going and even having one person. But we get to a point here where I think that we have to look at what we have going on in this community and where we have cut and where we have needs still when it comes to food insecurity and affordable housing and dealing with the homeless. And it's just, I think, a very bad message to send at this point for us to be sending this kind of a team of people to South Africa. Commissioner Fisher? Yeah, my understanding in my agenda review that the cost could be as much as $15,000 per person. I think that's what my notes say. Is that correct, Mr. Vero? So some of the, yeah, it could go as high as that. I think that, you know, some of the estimates I have could be anywhere from $5,000 to about $11,000, depending on airfare. And I'm going to piggyback Senator Rich's comment. And I think timing is everything. And the timing going through Doge and going through that, I can just see that taking the whole picture amongst itself. So, I mean, Piola, she is wonderful. Like you said, she sets everything up. And I think she becomes that person, I think, that maybe Commissioner Davis might be referring to as part of our staff. And I think that would be sufficient. So, again, I think just the timing is just off right now. Anyone else? Commissioner Udine? I think the way this is on the agenda is just a little bit disjointed because there is a staff member that doesn't need to come to this board. There is a department that does this. So, Piola is going on this mission. This is for an additional staff member. I believe Piola should go on this mission. I think that that's the person that would do that. I wouldn't, no, I understand. I'm agreeing with you. So, I'm just saying for the public that's watching this, we've all said we don't want any staff members going there. There is a staff member that will be going there. Okay. And I think that there are certain of these trade missions where the port, it's a port mission and you need people from the port. On this one, I mean, if we have a staff member, Piola, that's already going that doesn't need to come to the commission. I don't support sending somebody else and I would vote no on this. I think Piola should go. It doesn't need to, that's her job description. That's what she does. Let her do it. Vice Mayor Boebel. I just don't understand what, I'll shut up for a second. I just don't understand why Piola needs to go. I mean, we're supposed to watch, you know, Nan, I'd like you to say why because I don't get it. But I just, you know, we're supposed to watch our taxpayer money. You know, I think that Commissioner Davis is competent and well, any of our commissioners are able to go. I only use the Canada thing. She's great. I'm not talking about her abilities. She's really great. She set up the meetings. She set up the schedules. She set our agenda. I got in the car and I got to the places. I just don't, at this time, I don't even know why Piola needs to go. But you guys decide. Well, I understand it's not made on the agenda, but it's still, it's a staff member. I just don't get it. But you guys decide. Can I just ask the kind of administrator if she'd like to withdraw the item because I'm okay with it. Okay. I'd like to, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to withdraw the item unless another commissioner had another comment, I believe. So this will be, so Piola and. That's correct. I'll withdraw the item and then it would just be, it sounds like there's support. I want to go again. No, I'm joking. I understand that. Just to clarify, I know that there's not a required agenda item for Piola to attend, but I just want to make sure that there's support from the commission to send her on the mission with Commissioner Davis. Okay. Thank you. I withdraw the item, Mr. Mayor. Okay. With that, we're going to go to public hearings. We have a 12, we have four minutes, so we're going to get through a few of these. Let's roll. I'm looking for the first number. Let's see. The public hearing on item 80 is now open. Item 80 is a motion to adopt resolution pertaining to the organization of the Port Everglades Department, amending Chapter 16 of the County Administrative Code. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Do we do it? Yeah. I'm sorry. Moved in on second. I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. I might have to take this big thing out. I know. I know. Okay. Do we have a motion to approve? Who made the motion? You made the motion. Okay. Bogan made the motion. Do you make a second? Yes. Thank you very much. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Thank you. Item 81. The public hearing on item 81 is now open. Item 81 is a motion to adopt resolution to vacate and annul a 20-foot drainage easement in a portion of a 15-foot wide utility easement line within Parcel A of the ASAP Plaque Book 164, page 18 in the Town of Davie. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Whose district is five? Okay. We have a motion to approve. Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Okay. Item 82. The public hearing on item 82 is now open. Item 82 is a motion to enact ordinance pertaining to the Tree Preservation Trust Fund and the reorganization of the Public Works and Environmental Services Department in various divisions, amending various chapters of the County Code of Ordinances to reflect the organizational changes, and amending Section 27-413 to revise provisions related to trust expenditures. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Moved it. Can we have a motion from Vice Mayor Bogan? Second. A second from Commissioner Fisher. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. With that, we are going to go to our delegation. That one's going to need more discussion. Okay. So we have a delegation. Can you speak to the delegation, please? Delegation. Broward Organized Leaders Doing Justice. Welcome. Good morning, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. My name is Brian Anthony Campbell. I'm the Senior Minister of the 15th Street Church of Christ in Pompano Beach, Florida, and also Vice President of Bold Justice by our organized leaders doing justice. And I'm here with our delegation who's in the audience today standing. I'm going to ask them to stand, all of our members of Bold Justice. We're wearing red today because we are here on behalf of a very serious issue in our county. I stand before you this morning on behalf of families being crushed by Broward County's housing crisis. We have a story of a young man by the name of Jason who is a 27-year-old father from Sunrise. He lives with his fiancée and a toddler in a single rented room inside someone else's house. In that one room, they eat, they sleep, they bathe their baby, and they try to make a life. That one room is their entire world. And even that landlord just raised their rent to $1,025 a month for one room. Clara, a member of San Ysidro Catholic Church in Pompano Beach, is 79 years old and lives on $2,200 a month. When she moved to Pompano Beach, her rent was only $600. Two years later, it jumped to $1,500. After paying her rent, she has just $700 left for food, medicine, and everything else. Some months, she must skip medication to avoid homelessness. And then there is Nicole from UCC Fort Lauderdale, who works six days a week cleaning offices. Yet at night, she has to sleep in the back of one of the businesses she cleans because she cannot afford rent anywhere in this county. These stories, Jason, Clara, and Nicole, are not exceptions. They're just three among 150,000 families, seniors, and workers suffering across Broward County. 150,000. Half of all renters in Broward County are people earning 6% AMI or less. The very people who keep our county running, from hospitals to classrooms to grocery stores, are backbone. And we know this is not a short-term crisis. Sir, time for the next person. Thank you. Thank you, Brother Campbell, and thank you, Mayor Furr and county commissioners. Thank you for your time this day. My name is Reverend Aaron Lauer. I'm the lead minister at the United Church of Christ Fort Lauderdale. And the heartbreak and crisis that you just heard from Brother Campbell is serious, and it demands action and not despair. These stories represent tens of thousands of families sitting in our pews, teaching in our classrooms, serving in our hospitals. Since 2019, you all have allocated 50% of the expired TIF money to the Affordable Housing Trust Fund. And in the past two years, you have raised that to 90%. These are good steps that you have taken, along with many other recommendations that this board has taken on from the 10-year Affordable Housing Master Plan. However, as a pastor, as neighbors, as people of faith, we know that this is not enough. Broward County still faces the worst housing affordability in all of Florida. And every month, the stories we hear grow more desperate, and the suffering grows for our constituents. We are asking that you adopt, as a continuing priority, 90% of TIF funds for affordable housing, with 60% directed to families making under 60% AMI. And to make this your clear, aggressive intent moving forward. This resolution is not radical. It is responsible. It simply updates the 2019 resolution that you already passed, while also addressing those most in need, therefore strengthening it to meet today's crisis. We urge all of you as county commissioners to bring forward this resolution by mid-February, and we are happy to meet with you and talk with you about these issues moving forward. Thank you all. Thank you, Pastor. Pastor Anderson. Thank you, Grand Day, for all the hearts that are with us, esteemed commissioners. Foxes have holes, birds have nests, but the son of man have nowhere to lay his head. I am Pastor Michael Anderson of New Jerusalem Baptist Church in Hollywood, Florida. You have been presented the facts. You all know them. You have each heard horrid stories and the realities of many of our county families are facing, but there's a deeper question here. We have the power, but will we be willing to use the progressive imagination of stretching ourselves forward on behalf of the proud families? Again, we have the ability to do this, but will we have the combined brave imagination to stretch ourselves for the county crisis which is before us? What kind of county and community do we want to have and endeavor to be on this day? The scripture invites us to consider the least of these. Every day we see the faces of our mothers, fathers, and the elders who have done the right thing. They've worked hard, paid taxes, raised family, and they've been priced out of the very place they love and helped build. You sit with the ability to set a strong and responsible course for our county, a lasting direction, a lasting direction that says Broward County must not abandon its people to the market. You can choose courage over caution. You can choose responsible and responsive forward thinking over fear. We're not asking for the impossible here. We are asking for you to consider what is possible. We ask for strong moral leadership to take a step to ensure dignity to every Broward County family. And we call on you to adopt the 90% TIF policy and ensure that those most in need in our neighborhoods do this by mid-February. And let it be said that this Broward County Commission stood boldly on behalf of justice and responsible imagination and policy creation and hope. And I thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you. And I want to thank you all for being here today. I think this commission has been dedicated to trying to bring affordable housing. I can look over to my left and see somebody who looks at it as a moral imperative. And I think this commission is going to do everything it can for the people of Broward County. Do you want to say anything, ma'am? Do you want to add anything? I just want to thank you all for coming today. You know, I know it's very difficult for all of us because we all recognize the tremendous problem that we have in Broward County. And you're speaking to people who really, I look at all my commissioners who are very supportive of affordable housing. We need to do more. We always need to do more. We know that. And we're going to try and work to provide as much housing as we can. It is a moral imperative, as you say. And I think everyone here understands that. So thank you all for taking the time to be here today. It's very important that we hear and we see the faces of so many people who are committed to this issue in our county. Thank you. Thank you. I just got a quick question. Pastor Campbell, last we spoke and time before that and when we had the big meeting at the church, the four names that you just mentioned again that did not have housing, I asked you to get with our staff that we brought to the meeting. Do you have any results on that? You're still using those statistics. I know one of those persons refused, the one that was working for the construction company, sleeping in the room, refused to sit with our folks. So I'm very concerned that it's been almost eight months now and if those persons are still in that position, we do have services right now available. So I need those names or you can give them to staff because we gave you the information to do that so we can make sure that those persons can be evaluated and see if we can situate them. We can definitely do that. Thank you. Commissioner Rogers. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, colleagues, pastors. Good to see you in person. Those of whom I met on a Zoom, thank you for being here today because when I challenge you, then you step up. So I look around and I say, this is an awesome group. Thank you for what you're doing. I want you to continue to advocate for housing because we can do more and we can do better. And I said we, not meaning this commission alone. We don't own all of the properties here in Broward County. So everything we do, whenever we do bricks and mortar, you see all these high rise. This commissioner does not love them, but I know they're providing and filling the need that we have here in Broward County because when there's no play area for our children, and I stated that to you before, that's not good enough for me. When you have no park sidewalks to walk on, it's not good enough for me and our communities. When we have our seniors who are living in condos and they can't apply for some of the grants that we have for minor home repairs or any of those things or to sustain them in their apartments, even if they have to rent a room, we can't do everything without your help. So I want to say thank you for being here today. Continue to do what you're doing, knowing that this commission is committed to doing with the resources that we have. We are threatened by some changes in how we collect or not to collect property taxes. Think about how that will affect this commission and our budget. Just think about it. So as you talk to us here locally, try to go to the delegation meeting when they're here, back home, before they go back for session. Those are our state reps, and I know they're going to fight, but we need everyone for us to have those conversations. So I thank you for being here. Thank you for taking care of your parishioners, just like we're taking care of county employees who need our help. We just recently helped the federal employees by feeding them for a day, 1,000 by one business. I wish every business in Broward County would say, I can do 300 because it's not going to end anytime soon because families are struggling and they're not getting the hours they used to get. When they work at a supermarket, they used to get 40 hours a week. Now they're getting 25 or 30 hours. In the hospitals, the same things are happening. They are not generating the same amount of income they used to. So they can't pay for rent and, of course, for health care and all those things. So, yes, do we need your advocacy? Yes, we do. Rental, I know Senator Nan can share with you that program you have where you have reached out to property owners, you're having a luncheon. Go ahead, brag on that one. November 17th, the landlord recruitment event. It's actually sold out, I have to say, for this year. So many people and so many landlords. That's one of the things that we focus on is this landlord program because we have many, many landlords today that are willing and happy to participate and rent to people at reasonable rates. So it gives us a whole other field of opportunity to provide housing for people. So we like to, I see Patrice back there. She's head of our Haas department. And we are very excited because that pool keeps expanding with people willing to, if they, you know, have eight units, maybe they'll, you know, decide that one, they'll let be used for something like this. And it's just working out so well. So we're honored. We get to honor them like once a year to thank them for what they're doing. And we will keep out there recruiting and trying to find more people so that we can house more and more and more. Just everything and, you know, whatever ideas you have, you know, you can come to us and share them and we'll see how we can hopefully try to implement new things. The Eviction Prevention Program is another huge program now to keep people in their homes and not have them evicted because then they'll end up being homeless. So all of these things work together. And as you know, we're just committed to trying to do as much as we can. And I think that my colleague mentioned one of the most important things, and that is the legislative session and the possibility of removing or lowering or eliminating ad valorem taxes. And that is a big issue for us because we are spending a lot of money in this county right now, thankfully, for affordable housing and for homelessness and for services for people who need those services as well. And we need to have the money to be able to do it. But you keep pushing, and you keep pushing us, and, you know, we'll respond, hopefully, in the most positive way possible. Commissioner Eugene. I agree with everything that's been said, but I want to add one more call of action to your group. And I say this as somebody like everybody up here who represents local constituencies, and there's a huge group of people that are here. But I can tell you the biggest issue with housing affordability in this county is the lack of supply of housing. And all of us sit up here, and when it comes to budget time, we, you know, fight a little bit and we talk about, but we basically come through more than any other county in the state as far as dollars for affordable housing. With that said, we still have a huge crisis because there is not the supply. And I can tell you from experience, we can give dollars, but if it takes three years to get something entitled, if you have local commissions that are hearing the exact opposite that what we're hearing here, and they can't get things through their commission chambers as far as getting things built, this problem's not going to be solved. We can talk flowery about it. We all are in agreement with you. There is a severe supply-demand imbalance in Broward County. The good news is in the next couple of years, that will alleviate a little bit. Not enough that we would like to see it, but you're going to see this problem's going to be helped in another eight to ten months for a lot of different reasons. I've read studies. I read a study yesterday. The more supply that there is on any level of housing lowers all of the housing, A class, B class, and C class. So we can give the money, but if there's not the supply of housing, we are churning our wheels and just recycling the same problem over and over again. I encourage you to keep coming here. I encourage you to keep asking us for money. We'll do what we need to do, but you need to deal with the people on the supply side of this, and that's more of the local municipalities. Can I say a few words? Yes. Thank you. I'd like to recognize Pastor Grange and Roland Abel. Thank you for coming from District 7. And, you know, I've met with you on several occasions, and we are going to meet again. We've spoken about that. And, you know, as was said here, we're doing our – we have the same intentions. We want folks to have housing. I can speak from the fact that my mother was a Pentecostal minister in Jamaica, where they didn't even have social services. They'd come to us for food, come to us for housing. So I know the role that you play and the role that we play. But there are others also that we need to be tapping into. And I did mention the school board. You know, there's some abandoned – soon to be abandoned schools. What are we doing with those? You know, so I do hope we're tapping into all of the agencies, all of the government entities. It's going to take all of us working together. Municipalities, some have stepped up real big. You know, they're converting some of the schoolyards into the play areas and using their parks to build homes. Other cities can do the same. So we really do need to make this – I hate to put it on you, but you seem to be willing to go around and talk to people. Get them involved as well. We'll do our best because we have a lot of municipalities in each of our districts. So we'll talk to them as well about what they can do to help in the housing shortage. But be sure to know that this commission is with you. We're saying the same things. We want the same things. And we're going to get through this together. Thank you. Okay. Thank you all very much. We're going to have to get going. We've got a lot of stuff to get covered. Thank you. We have – yes. Oh. Oh, I didn't see you. And I know who this lady is. Hello, Barbara. Mayor. Yes. It's, of course, the board's prerogative, but I just want to point out that our delegation rules only allow one primary speaker and two secondary speakers. That's why I was doing that. Barbara, were you asking, were you wanting to speak for a moment? Good afternoon, Mayor, Commissioner, City Attorney, all of you on the dais. I am Barbara Lawson Nelson. I'm the pastor at St. Joseph Wesleyan Methodist Church in Dania Beach, Florida. I sat and listened to the sentiments, the comments that you all made. They sound good, but they won't work for the people that are in the trenches that are wondering if I should pay the rent or if I should buy food. I understand this subject is probably larger than what you're willing to just take a deep dive into for real, but people are living these the way they're living because they can't do any better. And I thank you for what you said, Commissioner Davis, but I just have to say this and I'm going to leave. The work we do here will never end because there will always be the kind of people that we're fighting for today. They're not going to go anywhere. So I really hope all of you who spoke today met everything you said, and I have no reason to doubt that you would, that you would actually really, really work hard to do everything you can to help us, help us. And finally, I just want to say this. I want to thank you, Mayor Furr, but I have to say this. Dignity is not, it isn't a, it shouldn't be a choice and it shouldn't be a bonus, but dignity should be a way of life for all of us. So at the end of this commission meeting or at the end of our short stay that you've allowed us to speak and stand here, I want you to think about that just for a little bit. Dignity shouldn't be a privilege for some. It should be a way of life for all. I thank you for the decisions that you're going to make to assist bold justice and helping those that are marginalized and cannot help themselves. Thank you. Thank you, Barbara. With that, it is 1230 and normally we'd be taking a break. Thank you all. I'm going to take four items real quick on aviation. And then we're going to go to the shade meeting, security meeting. Okay. We're going to do 89, 90, 91, and 92 real quick. And then we'll be meeting in 430. Okay. Okay. I'm not going to do it now. We'll do it in a minute. We've got a bunch left. Okay. 88. Wait, let's do 88 first. No, I'm sorry. 89. 89 is a motion to approve the Fourth Amendment. Do we have to read all these? Just very briefly, it doesn't have to be the whole thing, just be a Fourth Amendment self-service baggage cart. That's fine. Okay. 89, motion to approve Fourth Amendment to the self-service baggage cart, concession agreement between Broward County and Smart Cart E. Okay. I'll take a motion. We have a motion from Senator Geller. Prices keep, you know, the carts and wait for your bags, they keep going up and I'm going to ask Mark Gale about that. Okay. Mr. Gale. The second one was with Commissioner McKenzie. Do you mind? No, it's fine. It's fine. Mark, real quick. 60 seconds. All I know is those carts that people use for baggage, right? Correct, Commissioner. I mean, they started out at a couple bucks, then they're at five bucks. How much is a cart now? What is it, seven bucks, eight bucks? Average is about seven to nine dollars across the nation. Why? Do we have to go along with that? They're the sole source provider, Vice Mayor. There's no other company in the United States that actually provides the service at airports. Well, that's a good business opportunity for somebody, isn't it? Are you suggesting that we start our own service? I mean, it just, I've seen it. I can afford it. I'm just saying for consumers that come here, it's kind of ridiculous. I'd rather pay an individual tip for seven bucks, ten bucks or something than pay, you know, it's kind of a rep. I think it's a rep. We have looked at this, evaluated it across the nation. They are the only provider that does this, and that is about the average price in the terminal buildings, airport, or mission-wide. I'll move. Okay, we have a motion. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. 90? 90. Motion to approve fifth amendment to the agreement between Broward County and Fuel Facility Management, LLC, for management of the rental car center fueling facility. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Thank you. I'll take a motion. Move it. We have a motion from Vice Mayor Bogan, second from Senator Gellar. All those in favor? Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Item 91. 91A, motion to approve single-source designation of Bowlands, LLC, for inspections, repairs, and replacement of the engineered materials arresting system. 91B, motion to approve agreement between Broward County and Bowlands, LLC, for engineered material arresting system repairs and replacement at Broward County, Fort Lauderdale's Hollywood International Airport. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Thank you. We have a motion from Senator Gellar. Second. Second from Commissioner Udean. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Item 92. 92, motion to ratify action taken by county administrator on July 29, 2025, on behalf of Broward County, through delegation granted by Board of County Commissioners on June 10, 2025, to approve single-source designation and execute for the fixed-priced agreement between Broward County and Schindler Elevator Corporation. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Thank you. We have a motion from Senator Gellar and a second from Commissioner McKenzie. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. With that, we are going to go into our security meeting in room 430. So, let's give an approximate time so people are waiting. Okay. Yes. How long is this one going to take? Depends. No, one hour probably. Okay. Depends on the conversation, but I think it's no more than an hour. Is there any lunch in there? Yes. We have lunch for you all in the room. So, we will be back here at, I'm going to say 1.30, 1.40? 1.40. 1.40. Okay. So, and that's good. Thank you. That's a good idea. I'm glad you did that. I just don't want to... No, that's right. We won't be back in one... We're going to go ahead and get started. Okay. We were at public hearing number 83. Okay. Are you wanting to say something, Commissioner? No, that don't. Now that we're very... I know. Really? No, really. Sorry. Okay. 83 is the Tree Preservation Trust Fund. Can the... The public hearing on item 83 is now open. Item 83 is a motion to adopt resolution pertaining to the Tree Preservation Trust Fund amending Sections 27.186 and 27.187 of the County Administrative Code related to expenditures. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Okay. Any... We have a motion in a second. I would like to bring a couple things up real quick on this. Oh, I know. Yeah, because I do want to see the money mainly go toward the trees and not toward food and all kind of other things. I think it's important. There's also a lot of things that I just saw in my trip to Brazil where you're seeing city after city. Freetown is now being called Treetown. You're seeing cities all over trying to plant as many trees as they possibly can for various reasons. Hollywood is it? One of the things that they were doing is they were doing an app in Freetown where for every tree that they gave out, the person got an app and they would be able to take a show how they take care of it over the years, which was cool. It allowed for the city to keep track of all those. And one of the things that happens, because I did a lot of tree planting, is you get a lot planted, not all of them get taken care of as well as you'd like. And this is kind of a way of bringing all that. So I don't, but I want to know, and I guess I want to ask Lenny, because I know Lenny and his department had talked this over, and I wanted to hear how they, where they landed on this. And in a way, how do you make sure that the money is being used to the best? Mr. Valopondo? Yes, sir. Mayor, members of the board. Sorry, Mr. Valopondo. No worries. So the way that the ordinance is written, and to your point, there's a provision where some of the money, when we do like a tree giveaway or something like that, could be used for incidentals to make sure that the event goes on. Those events would have to be approved by the Tree Preservation Trust Fund Committee. They would have to come, you know, to me or, you know, to the board, depending on what the, you know, dollar threshold is. And essentially, we would have to basically approve of or sponsor those projects. So you're not, you're not looking at just everybody being able to come and just access these funds and be able to spend them willy-nilly. And to your point, the intention of the fund is to plant trees. And so it's, it's fully our intention to ensure that, that we're getting good return on those investments and that we're planting as many trees as possible. And, you know, the, part of the reason why we were looking at some of these alternatives is, is we have had, you know, right now we've got about a million dollars in there, you know, maybe about 700 that's not encumbered. And it's often difficult to entice people. So to your point, that the, the idea you had about the app, you know, just things that we can do to try to incentivize people to want to plant trees or to put them in places, you know, where they're, you know, protected or that there's government, you know, property and easements, we can ensure that they stay there in perpetuity. Certain cities have, you know, allocations. And so, I, yes, we will make sure that the monies are, are used to plant trees. Okay. Question. Commissioner Geller, then Commissioner. Mr. Villopondo, I raised this issue previously. I want to make sure what, the concern that I had had that I raised earlier was I didn't want to give $5,000 to the Society for the Preservation of Good Government or some, some fictitious group that could then take the $5,000 and do whatever. I thought that we had said that this would only go towards local governments or done at, you know, at the direct request of the commission. Or there was something that, that I had asked for and that we had done to ensure that the money was simply not going to fictitious groups. That we're just going to grab the money. What is that? Right. So, to your point, like, we don't, we don't just hand people money, right? So, essentially what has to happen is, is that the group that requests the funds, you know, has to do the project that we approve of first and then provide proof and, you know, we can expect that the work is done. So, it's reimbursed. And then it's a reimbursement, right? They don't, they don't just get the money. The, the times when, you know, when we as an agency sponsor a tree event, then in those cases, we will procure the trees, we will go to the event, we'll make sure that the trees are distributed, and then, you know, you know, we would pay for some incidentals, which is part of that. But there would actually have to be a tree giveaway that we coordinated, that we were, you know, aware of, you know, since, in a sense, we're sponsoring it. So, we would be actively involved along the way. We would not be just handing checks to people that say they're going to do something good for trees. No. Thank you. Commissioner Rogers. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So, remind me, what was the answer? Can we, how do we diversify our trees that we have in your supply? I, mangoes, avocados, tell me what type of trees do you have? So, it depends on the project, right? So, if somebody wants to do tree planting, then they would propose to us the trees that they wanted to use. Okay. And then we would, you know, we would look at, okay, you know, those are natives, they're not, you know, exotic, that are going to, you know, invasives or something like that. So, that's if they're doing a tree planting project. If we're doing a tree giveaway, it's like when we did Commissioner Davis' giveaway, they would, we sort of work with them to select some trees that we think the people that attend the event would want to, you know, to basically, we want them to want to come to the event, right? We want there to be a line out the door of people. So, we worked with them on some, you know, some fruit trees and some other trees. We threw in some, some natives as well. You know, those don't often do as well as the fruit trees. But, so we, we're very open to suggestions from whoever is doing the tree giveaway so that we give away trees that we agree are good trees, but that also would be desirable. So, yes. How about planting trees in the right places? How do we educate on that? Because they're under our utility poles, growing way over, all over. How do we address that? Right. We do provide resources on that. And, you know, when we do the tree giveaway, sometimes it's a little bit quick, you know, to be able to do that. When we have Water Matters Day, we do a lot of that education. And so, certainly, you know, we would make sure we provide those resources to people. But the minute that they're picking up their tree, you know, we don't necessarily have the interaction with them to have that conversation. Can we hang it on the trees? Yes, we could put that alert on the trees. That's a great suggestion. Yes, Commissioner. Thank you. We used to have a great program called Broward Beautiful. Yeah. That was one where every city would apply for a tree planting project. You would get to be, you'd plant 100, 200 trees. And it was a bit of, it was competitive, but it went through all of those things. I think that Mayor Roy Gold was helping on that one. Okay. Yeah. But he, you know, it was one where every city was, you know, it was diverse all the way through. Everybody got to decide really strategically where to put it. So there's still, you know, anybody could apply still to get these funds to do that kind of giveaway. We could certainly come up with some branding and do something if you wanted us to have like a, like a challenge or an event or something like that. I think that's a great idea. We could look into that for sure. That was a, I mean, I know a lot of people look forward to that every year. That's a good one. That's a good one. Okay. Anyway, if we can do that app, if we can look at that before Water Matters Day. I will definitely get someone on that. Okay. That'd be great. Thanks. Okay. We had a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. We'll go to item 84. The public hearing on item 84 is now open. Item 84 is a motion to enact ordinance pertaining to building permits prior to plaque recordation. Amending section 5-187 of the County Court of Ordinances, no member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. I'll take a motion. Yep. Second. We have a motion from Commissioner Fisher, second from Senator Geller. All those in favor? Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Item 85. The public hearing on item 85 is now open. Item 85 is a motion to enact ordinance pertaining to educational impact fee collection, amending various sections of Chapters 5 and 27 of the County Code of Ordinances regarding collection of educational impact fees and the issuance of development and environmental review approvals. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. We have a motion from Senator Geller, second from? Yes. Second. Commissioner Fisher. All those in favor? Any opposed? That passes unanimously. Item 86. The public hearing on item 86 is now open. Item 86 is a motion to enact ordinance pertaining to motor carriers amending Chapter 2 1⁄2 of the County Code of Ordinances to update minimal vehicle standards and other provisions relating to taxicabs. Seven members of the public have signed up to speak on the item. Joe Davis, followed by Jean Bernard St. Ellen. Okay. We'll listen to the public first. Good afternoon, Mayor Furr, Vice Mayor Fogan, and your fellow senators and Congress, sorry, I want to tell you that I support Senator Geller's First Amendment, which says that a vehicle has to be less than 10 years old in order to enter the system and that it's got to be out when it's 15 years, at the end of 15 years, so going into the 16th year it would be out of the system. I support that and I think it's a reasonable request by the county. In fact, I think it's the first request that I've ever had that the county has had in the industry in the years that I've been here, since 1989, it's always been us coming to you asking for things. Separate lotteries for drivers, meter increases, fuel clauses to protect us during that, the TOPS program, the Late Shift Connect program, the Tri-Rail program, all those things you guys have given and we haven't all given back, and so I definitely support that we make a change. I do want to make one comment on that, that if I were to move a car from one permit to a different permit, if it's already within that 15 years, that it would be grandfathered that we could move it as long as it meets the county standard, so I ask that you do that. As far as the other two amendments, you know, there's our policy matters, that's up to you guys to decide, I don't have any comment on those. If you hear from anybody that thinks that they're not very lucrative in the taxicab business, I want to remind you that the permit is good for all of Broward County, not just the airport. And so, you know, we've got lots of opportunities out there, millions of dollars being donated to us from the county to provide transportation. So the work is out there if they want to take it. Great. Thank you. Next. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Nick, can you state your name, please? State your name, please. And I represent the Fort Lauderdale Cab Drivers Association. The last, the last, from the last increase in 2023, the Consumer Press Index CPI has risen by 5.08% from December 2023 through October 2025. Our request in April 2025 sought a modest adjustment with this CPI change, not as a discretionary increase, but as a cost of living correction to preserve economic sustainability for licensed drivers. We understand the division stated concerns, opposition to any rate, and feel that a rate increase might price taxicabs out of market. Respectfully, we argue that the proposed CPI-based adjustment will not result in pricing taxes out of competitiveness. On the contrary, failure to adjust rates will further erode drivers' income, reduce service quality, and undermine the viability of regulated ground transportation. Rideshare companies, which are not bound by fixed rates, have freely adjusted prices in response to market conditions. Sometimes, and most of the times, TNC increase their prices more than 48% over the taxi rides, creating an unequal competitive environment for taxi operators. Therefore, the associations urge the divisions to reconsider its position to approve a cost of leaving rate adjustment of 10% reflective of the real inflation experience since the increase. This action will not raise fare beyond the market tolerance, but instead sustain the integrity and reliability of the taxi industry that serves. Broward County residents and visitors, thank you for your time, and we continue. Yeah, thank you. And my understanding is, for this ordinance, it's mainly dealing with vehicle standards, not the rates. And that can be dealt with at another time. But right now, it's not part of this. Am I correct on that? Yes, Mayor. We think that would be outside the published ordinance here. Yeah, it's outside of the ordinance for today. Okay. But it can be brought, that can be brought to another, at another time. Okay. All right. Okay. Thank you. Robert Bonner, followed by Ina Lee. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Robert Bonner, InterCity Taxi. I would support the changes to the ordinance as proposed by Commissioner Geller. I agree with Mr. Davis, in by 10, out by 16. With one caveat, it would be nice if we could extend 15 to 20 for wheelchair accessible vehicles. It's very difficult to get people to invest in these vehicles, difficult to find people to drive these vehicles. If we could extend it to 20 years, it would spread out their investment over a longer period of time, keeping in mind that if you grant that, the vehicle would be subjected to four inspections per year by the county. Thank you. Thank you. Next, Ina. Ina Lee. Good afternoon. Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioner, staff. This is my third time here. It started in May with the urgency of the situation. I'm not going to do my prepared remarks because I want to speak on behalf of Daniel Lamb that had to leave. My name is Daniel Lamb. I'm the Area General Manager for Econo's Properties, operating five airport hotels in the Fort Laurel Holiday International area, including Marriott at Daniel Point. I serve as president of Florida Restaurant and Lodging Association, Broward Chapter, with over 750 businesses, hotels, restaurants, et cetera, small and large, representing thousands of employees, all service workers, I add to that, related to the industry. Broward has invested heavily to remain a premier destination. Our airport is expanding airline partnerships. Our port is berthing some of the most advanced cruise ships in the industry. And our hotels and restaurants continue to deliver safe, high-quality, innovative guest experiences. There is a clear gap holding us back. We lack modern, consistent, and enforceable standards for metered car services. Yet these services remain one of the primary transportation options for our residents and visitors. At our hotels, every vehicle we send to the airport adheres to strict, brand-aligned standards, backed by rigorous code, enforcement covering cleanliness, safety checks, maintenance technology, and fleet age. The broader metered fleet operating in the county does not meet these standards and expectations. It sells well short what a top-tier destination should deliver. We would put, okay, tourism is a competitive industry. Cities similar to ours have strengthened their transportation standards, while proper minimum requirements lag behind. This meant we need, obviously, we need help. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Russ Clannett, followed by Dan Lindblad. Good afternoon. I am here in my capacity as chair of the Broward Workshops Urban Corridor Committee. For months, we have worked on this issue in cooperation with the DDA, the Chamber, the Workshops Tourism Committee, and we certainly appreciate the incredible work of county staff and Director Villalpondo. There are very few people that are as wonderful as they are to work with. We've reviewed the language in both amendments, and we think some of it is good and some of it is bad. Section E, line 20, addresses the requirements that add air conditioning and working order. We suggest that language be added to say to be utilized at the direction of the passenger. We also think that you should pay attention to the fact that in New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, the average age of a taxi cab is five years. The city of Chicago has a law that mandates that no taxi shall be on the road after it's 10 years old. So we support the Gellar Amendment. We think it makes sense. The Davis Amendment, unfortunately, guts the proposal that we were after, so we do not support that. We think there are a number of other things that can be added and can be discussed. But, you know, today the hospitality industry is speaking to the challenges that the county will face in putting its best foot forward for IPW. We're going to have thousands of people now because of the increased size of the convention center, conferences that could never be here before. And the first thing these people see is the taxi. Many of them are international, coming for IPW and others. They're international folks. And if they don't know how to tell the taxi driver, I want to go to Eddie V's, or they don't know how to tell them, I want to go to the Dal Mar. So we think that there are some real challenges in terms of communications. We think there's some real challenges in what people are getting into. And we want to see that change. We want to see it improved. Take it. I've got a lot more, but I finished. That was a good time. Good job on that. Dan Lindblad. Good afternoon. Afternoon. Mayor, vice mayor, commissioners, county administrators. Good to see you. Dan Lindblad, president and CEO of the Greater Fort Lauderdale Chamber of Commerce. Been there. This will be my 19th year as president. So I don't come out to see you guys very often. But this was important for us as we have the new convention center expansion. We have the Omni opening up soon. We've been raising the bar as it comes to our guests and visitors from wheels down to wheels up. And we think that these changes are long overdue. And, of course, the chamber is always about making things better for our visitors and guests. And this is something that we would support. So we hope you pass it. Thank you. Thank you, Dan. Daniel Lamb. He already spoke. Ventriloquist. That's everyone. Okay. That's everybody. Okay. So we have three amendments on this. And I'm going to... The first two. Oh, go ahead. Senator Geller. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The first amendment is traveling with the bill. And all of that was adopted previously, I believe. With that one, there are parts of the bill that says 10 years, parts that said 10, but your grandfathered in for 15. This just conforms the bill so that everybody now has the 15 years, next year it's 14, following year 13, following year 12. It just conforms it so it's uniform. And everybody's spoken in favor of it. I guess I was mistaken on part of yours. I thought that part of yours wanted to allow for up to 15 to the port and airport. No? It does. Right now, the... So it would be a gradual phasing out? The ordinance says that everybody has 15 years and then it gradually phases out. But it did not include the airport and seaport. So I'm adding airport, seaport to conform it to the rest of the ordinance. All right. Okay. Mayor Buck. The gentleman got up and spoke about the handicapped vans. What the word... Wheelchairs. Wheelchairs. Wheelchairs. Thank you. Sorry. Keep it longer because it's hard for investment. I would like to get everyone's take on that, whether... Or industry's take on that. But if it's... Obviously, it's a greater investment. And I don't know how the other industry people feel on that. Did you... I don't know if you heard. Basically, it's for wheelchair vans. Hey, you may get a little longer than 15 years because it's a bigger investment. And so I'd like to be sensitive to that issue. But I think... Here's what I'd like to do is do the ones that we have today. And then that's a good... That would be another amendment. It was a good suggestion, at least to look at. And then we do that for another time. Okay. That makes sense? Okay. Because right now we've had a chance to study these, look over these. So let's do the... Comment on this one? Yes, please. Thank you. On the Geller's amendment. Commissioner Fisher. Just want to see, is it possible to get the vehicles grandfathered in for the 15 years, even if it changes the permit number? I was going to bring that up. Okay. Yes. Okay. That was what was requested earlier by... Can I amend your friendly amendment? You take care of that? Yes, sir. Okay. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to amend my amendment to include that even if they permit number changes, but it's the same vehicle that it's still grandfathered in for up to 15 years, because sometimes they change the permit number. Okay. Here's the only thing that I think that with your amendment, what you're doing, and I understand what you're doing. You're trying to make it consistent. But what we're trying to do with all this is trying to make the first impression, the people that come in from the port or the airport, is a good first impression. But if you come in with a 2010, you know, Dodge Dart, that's, you know... They don't believe they made Dodge Dart. Whatever, whatever it is. Actually, they did. They brought it back to Dart. They probably got in there. You know, it's not going to be the same. And I think what we're trying to do is, at least the industry is telling us, that they want to see a more modern car picking them up at the airport or at the port. Mr. Mayor, we heard from the Alliance... Oh, excuse me, from the Workshop and from Yellow Cab and everyone else that spoke, if they supported the amendment. If they had opposed my amendment, I probably would have withdrawn it. But everybody... Is there anybody there that opposed it? They all spoke in favor of it. Anybody opposed it? Is that right? Don't see anybody opposing it, so... I'm surprised. Okay. Mr. I just wanted to mention, just to keep the record clear, so you're talking about Exhibit 2 when you eventually move this, and also the second piece about the vehicle age, if it has a different permit number, I'm told that we do not need an amendment for that, that that can be handled administratively. Okay. Okay. Well, then it's just the way it was originally, the way Amendment 2 said, the amendment attachment to it. Okay. Any other thoughts? We'll do one amendment at a time. Right. Okay. Okay. Any other thoughts on this? Yes. Did you have a thought on this one? No, just Amendment 1. Attachment 2. Get the Gellar Amendment dealing with the phase of the... That's different. Okay. Any others? Okay. Let's vote on that. Commissioner Rogers? In this amendment... Say it again. Your part. Your amendment. Part of the Davis Ordinance... No, I'm only talking about yours right now. No, I'm saying that the... I think this is your ordinance, correct? No. County, whose ordinance is this? Mine. I'm sorry. Part of the FUR ordinance says that it limits the age to 15 years, but says that airport and seaport had to be 10. Right. And that it will be 10. It'll lose each year. We'll retire one year. So at the end of five years, it'll be 10. What my amendment does is simply say that that will be countywide. Your amendment, your ordinance said at the airport and seaport, it could only be 10 years. Okay. Okay. Effective immediately. Okay. And industry... I'm just looking for nods of heads. Okay. So did you make it... You made your motion? Yes, sir. Okay. Motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes as you now. And the second amendment that I have, Mr. Mayor, is a little unusual. The Model T one. But creative. Yes. What it says is if somebody came up and said, we're going to have British black taxis, that's our model, and they haven't made them in 25 years. Or they said, our model is going to be classic 1950s happy day cars, that this would give the Lenny, or whoever will be serving in Lenny's position, the ability, but not the requirement, to say, oh, all right, that sounds creative. They're still going to have to pass all inspections. They'll still be governed. But if somebody comes up with a classic car theme... This is your day of hypotheticals. It gives them the ability to do it. That's okay. All right. Make a motion. I move approval of my amendment. Okay. We have a motion for the Model T's? Mayor, for the record, that's 86A. 86A allows for a thematic taxicab division to be created. At the discretion of whatever Lenny's job title is. I'm going to second. I understand what he's trying to say with the hypothetical. I kind of agree with it. It may not even be historic. It may never even come to pass. It could be whatever. It could be a Star Wars movie. Right. Exactly. Right. Okay. So we have a motion in a second. Does everybody understand what this is? Yes. Okay. All those in favor? Aye. If you'd like. Anybody opposed? Okay. That passes. Thank you very much. Third amendment, please. Commissioner Davis. Yes. So this amendment is such that if a vehicle... Somebody comes into the market, the taxi market late, for example, and their car is maybe 15 years old, 12 years old, whatever. But it has very limited miles. And I can say that because I know people that keep... They don't travel much in their cars. Their car is older, but it has a lot less miles than it should for that age vehicle. Case in point, my son has a vehicle. He doesn't even drive it. And it's 2,000 miles. But it's a six-year-old car kept meticulously. So if somebody wants to come into the market with a vehicle like that, I believe they should be able to, providing that it meets all the other requirements. So obviously everything has to work. It has to pass all the inspections. So it could be up to 15 years, but less than 150,000 miles. And again, that depends on how you keep your vehicle. Because you could have a five-year-old vehicle that has 300,000 miles compared to a 10-year-old or a 12-year-old vehicle that has 10,000 miles. So my provision is to make sure that they still pass all the inspections. But in case you do have such a vehicle, they should not be allowed to be in the marketplace. You want to make a motion? Was there anybody that has an issue with it? Does anybody want? Right. There's only one person that I know that said anything about it. Everybody else was okay with it. So I make a motion. There was one person. So, and there's other people that said they're okay with it. Well, look, before we discuss it, let's have a motion. So the motion is that we modify, okay, thank you. To include Exhibit 3 to the item, in the main item, all right, to amend the main item with Exhibit 3, which is your exhibit. So we have a motion by Commissioner McKenzie and a second. Second by myself. By Commissioner. All right, discussion. Commissioner Fisher, were you wanting to discuss? I think he had some. I was just looking to the industry to see if that would have peed upon them anyway. Joe, do you have any opinion on that? I'm just curious. I have a question about it. How do you prevent people from changing the mileage? Rolling it back? Yeah, and rolling it back. I'm sorry. My only concern is that if you put a vehicle on the road that's 15 years old or 14 years old, and, you know, if the car is out there, it's going to get about 50,000 miles each year on it. So at some point, the car is going to end up with 400,000 miles on it, and it's going to be an old car. A maximum is 150,000. That's the only way that can go up to 150,000. I keep it 150,000. I understand that. I mean, the only issue that I had, obviously, with that was that those things can be modified. That's good. Dashes, mileages, things like that can be moved. Commission. I won't be against it, but I'm just giving you my opinion. Okay. Senator Gillette, then Commissioner Eugene. I think I do have a problem with this. I've tried to be, understand, by putting in the county-wide 15 years, eventually getting down to 10. I think, is Mr. Klinett still here saying some of the other cities have, like, five years? I think 10 years, if our goal, as Ina is still here when she came, when the alliance, the workshop came to us and said they wanted us to have a more modern fleet of cabs, I think it's reasonable. I think by virtue of what you did, or what somebody did, by phasing it in over five years, I thought that was the reasonable compromise, but I think 10 years is a reasonable compromise. This is somebody new coming into the market to me. You're talking about cars that are already there. So, I'm talking about- I'm going to ask through the chair. Okay. Oh, through the chair. Sorry. Okay. Go ahead. Okay. I'm not sure we should be- I just think 10 years is a reasonable maximum. And if they're entering the market, they need newer cars. My view. Commissioner Udine. Thank you, Commissioner. Yes. Okay. Mr. Chair? Go ahead. So, I mean, I don't really like it, but I would- I don't really care because I don't really think it would ever happen. I would vote for it only because this is, like, a solution that we're looking for. This is never going to happen. You mean to tell me someone's going to keep their vehicle. They're going to have a 15-year-old vehicle that meets all of our requirements, super low mileage, and in year 16, they're saying to themselves, this is the vehicle I want to turn into a taxi cab. As a policymaker in Broward County and with all deference to all of my friends in the industry, I'll take that risk. I can't imagine that this is really going to happen and be that big of an issue. So, I would support the commissioner even- I don't think it's going to happen, and I don't want to really spend personally a lot of- invest a lot of time into it because I just don't think it's going to matter. But if there is a car that's in amazing shape, what's the difference? Commissioner Davis. That's my point. It's almost like Geller's solution about these exotic cars that could be 30, 40 years old, putting them on the road just because you might like the London taxi cab. So, that probably will never happen. So, for me, in the event that it does, they meet all the other requirements, they get inspected by the county, and the county knows how to inspect vehicles, I would think, to make sure they're not tampered with. And the conditions, obviously the interior has to look good, everything has to work. Like, the AC- I mean, I have an older car, and my car is in impeccable condition, and it's already got 128,000 miles. So, if you wanted to put your car in as a taxi cab, not that I even understand this, but if you did, you would have to make all the alterations on the car that you'd need to make, and you could only probably drive it for one season because once it hits 150,000 miles, now it's no good. Right, that's my car, but that's not everybody's car. So, again, like you said, it's not going to hurt anybody because you're not going to have a flood of people being able to qualify. Any other discussion? Hold on, through the chair, please. Commissioner Rogers. Thank you. I want to support Commissioner on that item because when it first came up, I think I was one of the ones that said that we keep talking about the tourist industry. Yes, it is, but I want the vehicle to be safe for everyone that might use that vehicle in Broward County. Okay, let's take a look. Whenever we are having conversation, just remember, we are users of those vehicles also. I've got to roll toward myself. Thank you very much. So, I'm supporting Commissioner because I know there are people that can't afford to do it, but their cars are immaculate. They take care of their vehicle. So, give them credit for that. Okay. With that, let's take a vote. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? I'm going to oppose this because I think it's too old. It's an interesting idea, but I'm going to oppose it. So, that goes 8-1? No. Oh. Opposed? Were you opposed? So, it's 6-3. 6-3? Can I? It passes 6-3. Can I just see show of hands, then? What's that? Because, I think, can I just see show of hands so I know who's voting? Oh, okay. All those in favor? Those opposed? Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Now, we vote on the main amendment. On the main. I think you can vote to enact the main ordinance as amended by Exhibit 2 to the item, Exhibit 3 to the item, and 87-A that was distributed as additional material. Okay. Like Drew said, I'll take a motion. A motion from Commissioner Udine. Second from Vice Mayor. Mayor Bogan, all those in favor? Aye. Any of? All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? That passes unanimously. All right. With that, we go to item 87. Our final public hearing item is item 87. The public hearing on item 87 is now open. Item 87 is a motion to adopt resolution pertaining to the rules of procedure and policies of the County Commission amending various sections of Chapter 18 of the County Administrative Code. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And this is one that I'm putting forward, having had a chance to be mayor twice now, and seeing things that are a little hazy, a little blurred. This just clarifies things for all of us on various things. I want to thank the County Attorney's Office, Renee, for going through all these things. You guys took a long time just to look at things that looked like it needed to be cleaned up. Very good job on it. All good. And I think most of it's, you know, pretty easy. There are a couple. There's, I think, two parts, two considerations or two amendments. One is from the County Attorney. One's from Commissioner Davis. Actually, Commissioner Davis and I each withdrew our preliminary amendments. Okay. And we're recommending that when the Board consider the item, that it do so amended by the additional material 87-C. Okay. Thank you. Any discussion? Well, first, let's have a motion to approve. Motion to approve. Second. Commissioner McKenzie. Seconded by Commissioner Davis. Discussion. Can I ask? Sure. Yes, you're talking about 87-C? Yes. So, the two, this, as Mayor Furr said, this cleans up a lot of things. This is a long overdue rewrite of our rules, including rules of debate, rules of public participation in meetings like this. But it includes a couple of things that have been recently discussed by the Board. One of them involves namings of buildings, roads, things of that nature. The amendment does not address that piece. The second thing that it does is it does, it addresses the protocol, as we discussed recently in connection with the South Africa trip, that applies to speaking and travel opportunities on behalf of the county. What happened in this instance is Commissioner Davis had proposed an amendment that made us realize that there was a better way for us to spell it out, to make sure that everyone's on the same page with it. And that's what we did in 87-C. It makes it clear that there's a distinction between speaking or traveling on behalf of the Board or doing so in your individual capacity as an elected commissioner. That's the main change. I know Commissioner Davis is comfortable with that. I was comfortable with it, so we each withdrew our individual ones, and we did 87-C, and we recommend it. Mayor, I'll move it. Okay, we have a motion. I have a question. I'll move it. I'll second move the motion. Motion by Commissioner McKenzie. Seconded by Vice Mayor Bogan. Question. Question by Senator Geller. County Attorney. I'm just trying to figure out how you define line 635 through 641 of the item that we're discussing, which I think is C, you said. Yeah, 87-C. That's when a commissioner is invited to speak, attend, or appear solely in their capacity as an individual elected official and not on behalf of the county or county commission. I just don't know how you define that somebody would invite me as an individual elected official and not as a county or county commissioner. I just, you know, I'm just trying to figure out what this actually means. So the distinction is, as an elected official, you are a county commissioner. So if somebody invites you, I know a number of areas of your expertise. If somebody asks you to speak on that topic and it's Senator Steve Geller, county commissioner, as opposed to I want you showing up and stating Broward counties or the Board of County Commissioners position on that, that would be the distinction. The first you would be able to accept, the second would have to go through the mayor, and the mayor would get to decide whether, how to apply the protocol. So now, could there be a disagreement? Is there some gray area there? There is. But it involves First Amendment issues as well. And for that reason, we built in some guidelines that basically also say that the person – so in that instance, someone asks you about your expertise. But basically, as a public official, as opposed to as a private attorney, it would have to – basically, it says, when you participate, you would have to make clear that you're participating solely in your capacity as an individual elected official and not on behalf of the county. And secondly, if it involved any travel that required approval, so a foreign trip, for example, that would have to be approved by the board in advance. So in the areas where there may be the possibility of friction, I think it's very likely that that will end up being presented to the mayor because it may involve travel, and the mayor would sort it out. And we also build in a process for challenges. But again, it's a First Amendment issue. It's a little bit tricky. I think this advances what our current uncodified protocol is. But it's possible that six months from now, we're going to have to come in and – I want to be clear. I'm not opposing it. I'm just trying to figure out what it means. And then the other related issue is if there's doing this in an individual elected official but not on behalf of the county or county commission, do we run into any statutory ethics, gift law, et cetera, issues? I just – I want to make sure we're not setting us up for other down-the-road issues. No, it's interesting because we have a gift item on this agenda as well that might apply to that. But, Senator, the gift laws apply to you as individual elected officials regardless of your governmental affiliation. So in that instance, if you're accepting any sort of – you may basically – it may be an honorarium or it may be something else that's an exception to the gift laws. But if you're receiving a meal, you're receiving travel or any of those things, we always encourage you to vet those things with us. We don't believe this adds any complication to that. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? This is on the entire item. Oh, should we have to do the amendment first? Can we do it? Can we do it all together? Okay. This is with the amendment. All those in favor? Aye. Any opposed? It passes unanimously. We'll go to item 93. Item 93, motion to adopt resolution supporting the local act to rename Broward County as Lauderdale County if approved by referendum election, directing the county administrator to transmit a certified copy of this resolution to designated recipients. No member of the public has signed up to speak on the item. Commissioner Udine. Not one member of the public. You're all – not one member of the public signed up to speak on this. Not even you, Walter. All right. So this is something that I mentioned a couple meetings ago, and I think I was – I saw that – I saw Chip at a grand opening event. He said he was putting this on as a local bill, and I wanted to bring this to the county commission for us to have a discussion on it because, you know, this local bill was there. And I thought that it was important that we opine on this one way or another. And around – I guess about a month ago, there were a couple of the conferences, the ULI conference that was at Pier 66 and a few of the other ones. And I spoke to a lot of the business leaders and a lot of the marketing and branding leaders throughout the county. And almost uniformly, they came up to me and said, this is a priority issue that they were looking at. This is something that they feel would help them with marketing and branding of the county throughout the world. Now, what their position is – and I've attached this as additional materials. This was the white paper that was prepared by the Broward Workshop, whose executive board has just voted, I think, to change your name to the Lauderdale Workshop. And it was George Hanbury, Tim Petrillo, some of the leaders on that board. So, you know, when businesses and when corporations and governmental agencies look – and this is not a surprise over the last – and you can read it in the white paper, but it's not a surprise to anybody because we see what the results have been – when all of these different agencies have done SWOT analysis and done marketing analysis and have done branding analysis to look at what their particular agency should be called, it all came back with a derivation of Lauderdale in it because there was some, you know, understanding and idea of the location. When it used to be sunny.org was our branding for tourism, they did a whole big study, and it came back at Visit Lauderdale. The Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance used to be, I think, the Broward Business Alliance. They came back as the Greater Fort Lauderdale Alliance, who markets for the entire county and brings business to the entire county. When – you can see it in the backup of what I filed. They did a – 2009 of the CEO Council did something. 65.2 percent had a positive image of the name Lauderdale. Thirty-nine percent had a positive image of the name Broward. It goes on and on, and as we've come through the years, that has become more and more apparent as they've looked at this and as they've studied this each way. Many of the cities, the 31 municipalities within Broward County have some derivation of Lauderdale in their name. I don't represent – I mean, I have North Lauderdale part in my district, but, you know, I represent Coral Springs. They're the biggest city in my district, Coral Springs, maybe Tamarack. It's never going to be Coral Springs County. It's never going to be Tamarack County. But they both have major, major business parks that they want to try and fill up. And if businesses can come there and if businesses can do that, it brings high-paying jobs. We had groups of people that were here talking about affordability and affordable housing. And I would contend to people that one of the ways to help that is getting these people to have higher-paying jobs and bringing these major corporations that want to come and that want to be down here. When L.L. came down and they moved their corporate headquarters to Margate, Florida, they mark it as being in Miami, Florida. They don't even use Lauderdale, Broward, or anything. When people travel outside the area, if they live in one of our – if you live in, you know, Cooper City, normally you'd say, I live in Fort Lauderdale. I'm in Parkland, same type of thing. So that goes on and on. So what have I heard as far as feedback from this? The first part of feedback is there are some people in this world that cannot take any change of anything anywhere on any issue. I respect that. It's the way it is. Everybody likes everything the way it is. They didn't – Parkland, they didn't want Garbage Day on Tuesday. They only wanted it on Monday. I respect that and I understand that. Miami-Dade County changed their name from Metropolitan-Dade County to Miami-Dade County a number of years ago. So they were able to do the change. They were able to market the Miami name into an international city. I would contend to most of us here when we have things that go on in our district nationwide and it's reported on by the news or whatever, it comes back as being in Miami. We've seen this a million times. When El Al came here, they were moving to Miami. Different things had happened. When you had the Parkland things, it was in Miami, on and on and on. The second thing I hear from the public is this is going to cost a fortune. And the way that the local bill is written is it really doesn't cost a lot of money, and the economic benefit far outweighs that if we bring a few major corporations to the Sunrise area, to the Miramar area that comes in. And if what we think will happen and what the business community thinks will happen with that, it will far dwarf any costs that the county would have. So there will be some county costs. As sheriff's vehicles come, you know, they would have to be rebranded. But those paint jobs and those wrappings don't last forever anyway. That has to happen anyway. You don't have to do that on day one. Like when we build this new building that we're building for our government center, instead of it saying Broward County, it would say Lauderdale County. I just think that this is something that the voters will decide. We're not going to decide this. We would put it out to the voters. If it's such an incomprehensible idea, I'm sure they would reject it out of course. But I don't think they will when I think they get educated on the amount of high-paying jobs, the amount of local community pride that you get. And it doesn't matter if you don't live in Fort Lauderdale. It would be the same thing. Hollywood and the Tourist Development Council, I think, voted. The mayor of Hollywood was there. They didn't have a huge objection to it. I thought they were in favor of it. I think that it's something that can finally put a county that's in the middle of two of the most growing counties. Miami-Dade is just crushing it. Palm Beach County is really doing well on their business development. Broward is right in the middle. We should be doing much, much better than we are. And is it because of our branding? A lot of people say that that's one of the major reasons that we have. So, I mean, I think it should be something that we should discuss. If there's five people that are okay with it, I guess the local bill can move forward. I think they had their meeting today, and they said that they wanted to wait and hear what we had to say. If everyone's against it, then it won't happen, and life will go on. It will for me. Discussion. Discussion. I happen to think Commissioner Udian is an outstanding county commissioner and a close friend. It's okay. It's totally fine. I love you all. You all love me. And I hate to oppose him. However, first of all, I take everything that the downtown Fort Lauderdale business establishment says with a grain of salt when they're talking about how the downtown Fort Lauderdale area is, you know, the only thing that matters in Broward, you know, I do kind of think that they can be a little myopic on this. But that's not really my issue. I have one issue, one main issue, which is I think that this is premature. And if this came up next month or January, I could feel differently. This just came up, and I've been very clear on this. On an item like this, I'm going to be guided to a large degree by what my local cities think about this. I've been able to speak with three of my five mayors in the two largest cities that I represent, Davie and Plantation. Both of the mayors indicated strong opposition, but told me that they would take it to their city and town commission. One of the third said that he was leaning towards supporting it, but would take it to his city commission. I had a town meeting yesterday. The residents there unanimously opposed it, but there were only a handful of people there. If this came up after my cities and towns have had the opportunity and village to express their views on this, and if they said, yes, we support this, I would be a lot more likely to support this. This just came up. I contacted my cities immediately, happened to be the day after two of them had met, and they told me they're not meeting again until next week. And that's why I'm saying this is premature. We haven't had the opportunity. I haven't had the opportunity to really dig into the studies, and you all know I dig into studies. And so, Commissioner, and with the greatest of respect, if we're voting today, I have to be against it. If we're voting three weeks from now and my commissions came back and said, yeah, we think it's a good idea, more likely than not, I'd be for it. I want to hear what the Broward League of Cities, I understand the president of the Broward League, has expressed her opposition, but there hasn't been a vote of the league. And that's why I'm just saying this has come up too quickly. And by the way, it was done. In three weeks, I will be against this also. Because in three weeks, we will not resolve our food insecurity problems. We will not solve our affordable housing problems and many other things that are going on here. And at a time when we are looking at a possible loss of revenue to think about, and I have to tell you, when I read this white paper, I cringed at the thought that someone could actually put on a piece of paper that we could do this within our existing budgets, this is going to cost millions and millions and millions of dollars. And there's no way around it when you think about everything in this county that carries the Broward name. And by the way, for 110 years, and I kind of believe in history too, and that's a part of this for me. Miami is a different story. I grew up in Miami. Miami is Miami. This is a different thing. The comments from the business community about how much better and how much better we can do things if we had the name Lauderdale. First of all, it's utter confusion in our city, in our county, with multiple cities that already have Lauderdale. And think about when we were having the whole conversation about the bridge and the tunnel. So we're going to say, Lauderdale will be battling Lauderdale. I mean, the whole thing kind of, you know, I'm sorry, but, you know, I look at this and the whole idea of it to me just does not make sense. And it won't in three weeks because of the fact, as I said, all the needs we have here. And what I look at, we just talked, Joe Morris was here today. And I brought this with me today because I knew I was going to say something about this. And we're talking about, you know, we need to improve this, we need to improve that. We can always do better. But when I think about what we've been able to do over the last few years, and under the name Broward County, and the idea that people aren't coming here because it's not Lauderdale, why did we expand our convention center? Why did we build this new convention hotel? Why is, I wrote Joe's words down when we went over this, hitting on all cylinders, cargo, cruise, energy, ships coming in here or going to celebrations because many ships decide, you know, they're going to be coming here or this is going to be their home. Same thing with businesses. The Alliance comes before us all the time with this glowing report of all the things that they have brought to our community. I feel that this is just, you know, a small segment of the business community that wants to do this. I have talked to other business people. I also have talked to many of my cities and elected officials who are absolutely not in favor of this. And I just, you know, when I think about the branding aspect of it, think about Broward School Board. Think about the Children's Services Council of Broward County. Everything has the Broward name and it means everything will have to change. And for what? For what? People are coming here. People are coming to our community. And we have 31 municipalities. And we can be under the banner of Broward County as we have been for 110 years and allow all of our cities to do what they need to do. And Lauderdale can do what it needs to do. And it does. But they have the same problems. It's interesting. I mean, don't they? They have the same problems. Affordable housing and homelessness and all these things. You know, it's things that we have all over in this community. In almost 31 municipalities, everyone doesn't have the same ones, but most have it. And we can all work together under the banner as we have for all of these years of Broward County. Commissioner Fisher. Thank you, Mayor. And I'm not going to get into a whole lot of detail because of the fact that I even expressed to the workshop folks that I had my meeting with that this is way too soon to bring forth even to us for even consider it. There's so much due diligence that needs to be done here that, again, if I was to vote today, I would say no. But I need time to digest. I need time to really figure out the costs of a rebrand. You know, we can say it doesn't cost a lot of money. But, again, I have to have an analysis that doesn't cost a lot of money. You know, I've heard from, you know, $5 million to $50 million. And what a great time to be talking about it with Doge on us, you know. And so timing is everything, but also, again, it's due diligence. I just pulled my nine cities quickly because of this being rapidly put in front of us. And seven of the nines said absolutely not. And actually, Deerfield Beach is not my city, Vice Mayor. But I talked to the mayor there, and they had a meeting, and they said absolutely not. Even Mayor Trantalis, I asked him, he says, he didn't say, yay, I'm for it. He said, let me bring it to my commission. So even City of Fort Lauderdale, Mayor Trantalis said, let me bring it there. So I have a list of things. I'm not going to go through them. I can just say right now that I need a lot more due diligence. I need a lot more factual costs of a rebrand, how it's going to happen. And all the constitutionals, like Senator Rich said, there's so many tentacles to Broward at the end of the day. Again, I'm not saying no. I'm saying no. I just need time and energy and cost to make a business decision because this is a business decision. And to say off the bat that automatically economics will just boom, again, how does that happen? And with all due respect, I mean, you say, you know, I agree, you know. And with all due respect, too, I don't think we're ever going to be the city of Miami or Miami. Miami has, it's just, it's too big and broad and it's internationally known. We'll never be a Miami. And so I don't like to be compared to a Miami at the end of the day. I'd like to be like Miami, but we're never going to get there. So all these things play into play. And I just, again, I have a more dozen things to say. But at this time, I just need more due diligence to be able to make an intelligent decision. Thank you, Mayor. Commissioner McKenzie. In the essence of time, it's just too soon to make this type of decision, something that would have a huge impact. I think there are a lot of variables. I mean, staff can look at it and figure out how we do other big things because most things that we do here take a long time. Sometimes it takes your whole career and you don't see it until, you know, you come back in the 13th year and you see it. So I just, we need time to deal with this. Commissioner Davis. Thank you. Two things. I just want to understand how the process would work. I know you mentioned that the state is, the state is going to bring it up. Well, my understanding from the county attorney's office is there's a local bill filed, but it's got to go to the voters. The voters have to vote on this. But who puts it on the ballot? The vote passed it. What? Sorry? Who puts it, how does it get on the ballot? If the bill passes, it doesn't come back to us. The state, basically, there will be a resolution with the bill that will automatically direct that it go on the ballot. I don't know if mechanically, in sort of a ministerial sense, we have to do anything in transmitting it to the SOE. But if the bill passes, it's going to go on the ballot, the bill up in Tallahassee, the special bill passes, then it's going to end up going on the November 26th. Without us saying yes or no. Right. So we don't have much control over it. But our delegation gets the first crack at it. Okay. And today, they did not seem to be too enthusiastic about it, but they're waiting to hear, you know, what we said today. Okay. And so, okay, that's good to know. The other thing is, I was looking at, would there be a compromise to, say, Broward-Lauderdale County? Because then you still have Broward in there. Miami-Dade did, they kept Dade County, but they just added Miami. If you do Broward-Lauderdale County, it then recognizes Broward, but also lets people realize, oh, so it's Lauderdale. Because those that may not know Broward know Lauderdale. So you could have a combination, Broward-Lauderdale County, which is not far-fetched. Are you, if you're asking? I'm just asking how that sounds to you. So it doesn't sound that bad to me, but what I'm saying is, like, there's been things, I was going to comment at the end, but, like, when Port Everglades is crushing it, they're doing very well. When they had their SWOT analysis, it came back that they should rebrand as Port Lauderdale. They didn't bring that to us because they thought that it would be a political firestorm, but... Is that true? Yeah, that is true. It's not the reason why it was not Broward. Okay, but it didn't come... So there's a lot of things sometimes when we start thinking outside of the box on some of this, and I get it. It needs more time to percolate, and that's a very, very respectable ask that this is something that would be... Nothing would happen until November of 2026, no matter what we do, and theoretically, this could happen without us anyway. All I'm saying is this is something that we should be involved in the conversation with. There are a lot of positives here. Everything that we do costs some level of money, but I think that if we can generate revenue, and maybe this isn't... Commissioner Fisher may be right, this could also be a little bit of a shortcut. Maybe they're too reliant on this issue, as this may be the reason why they're not marketing or branding it the way they think that they should be branding it. But I think this is a reasonable discussion for us to have here. I'm not... I don't want to throw history out the window, and I respect everyone's thing on change and not having change, but there are costs to everything we do. There would need to be definite breakdowns of studies. You have things in our area that really could lend themselves to regional areas of growth. They wanted to bring, at one point, like an Olympic-type sports facility, training grounds, and the whole thing out in sunrise. They talked about that through the Alliance. I agree the Alliance is doing a very good job in many respects with one hand tied behind their back, and they'll tell you that. But you can look at the different companies and the different industries that are relocating here, and we have other issues besides branding. We need better Class A office space. We need a little bit better regulatory environment when they want to come here. But this is just a position that I think we should be talking about. I'm quite okay if there's not five votes to it. I'm quite okay if we need to bring it back and look at it a little bit later. But I think we should talk about it if it's percolating up in Tallahassee. Personally, I would vote for it. I will vote for it if it's on the ballot because I think it's a very big win for the cities I represent. Okay. All right. And I get your point. But I think if you're going to look at change, I still – this is an option, like I mentioned, Broward, Lauderdale County, because that way you still keep the Broward and you add Lauderdale for recognition for people that know Lauderdale. Port Everglades is totally a bad name, and nobody knows what that is. But, you know, I've lived here for many years, and I didn't really know that that was something. So I could get anything that says Port Broward or Port Lauderdale would get a win. So that's not, you know, a good comparison because Port Everglades doesn't make sense to nobody. We don't know where that is. Is it in Broward, Dade, Palm Beach? It doesn't give any indication. But I think if you're going to put something out, maybe have a couple of options. Say, do you want it to remain, you know, Broward County, Lauderdale County, Broward, Lauderdale County, and, you know, whatever. You know, but maybe that's something that would be open to consideration than just saying change it to Lauderdale County. Give another option. Thank you. I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Do you – I didn't have your name down. You want to go? Go ahead. Go ahead. I'll go after you. Deal. You, Mike, Hazel. I've heard this conversation before and to include having a strong mayor, to include why Central Broward County did not want a Broward Alliance because they did not feel they were a part of the alliance. But when it was Broward Alliance, they felt connected to the word Broward. And Central Broward County never felt that they were well-received or whenever decisions are being made or considered, they don't believe that they were included in the surveys or anything. I'm talking in the days. Now we're here. We're – it's coming back again. They're talking about naming our county. They might just start talking about changing our form of government. Also, to include a strong mayor. Whenever you hear things going on, there are conversations that are going on right now. Strong mayor. I'm hearing it. So strong mayor, different name, knew everything. So, yeah, I hear things too. I believe that I like Broward in the name. I grew up on Broward, but I like change also. Trust me. But I don't believe everything that we have done had no value. We spent a lot of money to go visit Florida, visit Lauderdale. Spent a lot of money on that boat or cruise or whatever that was. We were questioned by it, but it was valuable to Broward County. So I know we're doing the right things to make sure we are our own identity. We have identified ourselves. We have done – we've spent a lot of money. I don't know if another county owning a hotel, but we vested that way. And I know Broward Alliance or the Alliance or Workshop or whatever they're called, they had opined on those decisions that we were making. So it was good then when we were becoming business owner of a hotel, but now we don't want to make sure – it was good then, I want to say. So I'm not seeing this new name yet because we all have our district and our folks. But remember, when you change things, it impacts other communities and how they look at the county and how they feel the county is representing them. We are here to represent 31 cities. We're here to hear from 31 cities. And our business community are equally as important as our other residents. So we need to hear from them also. All right? So I hope you take the time to go on out to the various cities and talk to the community and see if they feel like they want to change our name and leave up Broward County. I think I like my own identity already. We worked hard for it. Thank you. I think I can solve the main problems here. Go ahead. So the big problem is money, okay? What if I said I can raise the money? Two, Nan has a great thought. Lauderdale versus Lauderdale. Where's the history? Keeping B and ending it with O-G-E-N. And I'll raise the money. I'll raise the money. We keep the history. It solves the whole problem. How does that sound? Perfect. I'm done. Okay. I've kind of gone back and forth on this because I was on the TDC. And I've heard that discussion there numerous times of the thinking about it. And then I start to hear from my high school buddies, South Broward. What are you thinking? And we have to change all the alma maters, all that stuff. So I think the financial impact at this time is big. But when I think of the school board by itself, school board of Broward County, that's huge by itself. Hospitals, over, I mean, hundreds and hundreds of Broward corporations. I do think the timing is not particularly great, given that, one, we're in an issue with the sheriff right now, all the doze stuff. I think this needs to percolate a little while. It is my thinking. Yeah, no, it's just a discussion right now. There's no action on it right now. You were just trying to get the temperature of what's going on. Yeah, no, I just really want to get the temperature of it. Like I said, I'm not going to repeat what I said. I think that other than the historical and the nostalgia and that kind of stuff, I think that the rest is stuff that could be worked through and worked around. And I think that the, I don't see where this lends itself. Like I didn't put this mayor thing on for today. I don't, like we're going to discuss the mayor issue also. I didn't add that whatever, but I'm sure we're going to, I didn't put it on. No. Somebody else did. So I'm happy to have the discussion. That wasn't my point in bringing this together. I do believe that Port Everglades, I know what the SWOT analysis, I know how that worked. I would recommend that our commission, as they hear, keep an open mind, as they hear from different business leaders on this, this has not, this has very little to do with the downtown business development community because they already benefit from the brand of Lauderdale. They get that benefit. We're spending all the money on that. We're spending it in Broward to take the brand of Lauderdale. What do we spend with Visit Lauderdale? Those are Broward tax dollars that we're branding something else. It would be like if Coke branded only as Cola. And it's very disjointed in the branding that we have. So I'm good with it. I'm going to, there's no reason to have a vote on it now. There's not support of it here. Okay, so let me make a motion. Let me just table this indefinitely as a sponsor. I think that the people that, you know, have talked about this, I know if they're going to bring it up in different city commission meetings, people can discuss how they want to discuss it. Like I said, I know how I would vote, but I can count. And I do think. And I think it would be very important, by the way. I know affordable housing is our big thing. I think this would be much better as far as raising wages for employees here if we could bring businesses here than continually throwing stipends that are getting eaten up by the length of time and lack of jobs on the other end to afford this. If you can't afford a house and you're making minimum wage, you're not affording a place to live and making minimum wage plus a dollar. It's different than that. We need to get better high-paying jobs for our people that are here. With that, I'm going to pull the item and table it indefinitely. Do we need any other? I mean, it's technically you're just voluntarily withdrawing it, and you'll bring it back whenever you want. I'll bring it back in a future day. Okay. Or maybe I won't. I'll let you know. I'll get back to you. I got a few people. You can do whatever you want. Right? That's fine. I want to hear from the people at the board here. We're really... That's fine. Yeah. There you go. Okay. With that, we'll go to item 101. Commissioner Rogers. 100. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me go to 100 first. Vice Mayor Bogan. Item 100. 100. So, hey, when I got here, what, 10, 11 years ago, we had a $5 requirement. If you had anything over $5, you're in trouble. Or if you had, like, so I went to a city, Pompano, and they wanted to serve lunch, and there was a sandwich sitting there. I didn't have $500 in cash, so I'm like, I can't have the bagel or the drink or something because I'm going to get in trouble. I think what I'm trying to do here is let's follow what the state does. Let's follow state law. So we don't have one law. They have one law. We have one issue. They have one issue. To me, it's a gotcha type statute, and I think it's just asking for trouble. So I think it's good that we follow state law. There's nothing wrong with following what all the state officials have to go by. Let's follow state law. That's it. Yeah. I pulled this. I pulled it because I actually think that what we have is good. He's wrong. He's wrong, and I'm right. I just want to make sure you know that. I actually feel like Broward has a big red line that is letting us know how to act as elected officials. And I think it is different from other counties. It's different from other places in the United States. And, I mean, when I talk to people about how we do procurements and that we're not on the selection committee, and a number of these things like that, I point to it as a source of pride. I think it's a good thing that we are pretty select in how we do things. So I haven't felt like the state has the answer. Go ahead. County attorney. I just wanted to mention, Mayor, just because I know what Vice Mayor is intending. So this would only conform our gift rules, which are complicated. So this wouldn't change serving on selection committees or the other? I know. Okay, I just wanted to make sure. I'm just pointing out that our entire ethics, all of our ethics rules are different from what everybody else says. I see it when I go. I want to try what he's saying real quickly before you say anything. Sure. So let's say Beam is, you know, I want to give somebody a $60 gift here, Christmas gift. Okay? State says, fine, up to $100, you disclose it. Okay. Here, $51 or more, and you're in trouble. Correct? Actually, and you're the one who usually tells me, Vice Mayor, to answer yes or no, but it's not that simple. It requires a lot more, and I'm saying this in support of, I know what your rationale is for your item. So even if it's more complicated, that's another reason. I'm trying to get legal advice from a lawyer, and you're telling me, as the expert here, it's even more complicated. So, yeah, is it offered to somebody in their official capacity, and if you're a non-reporting individual, a non-vendor or lobbyist, then it's up to $50. If you are a vendor or lobbyist, then it's lower, but it depends on the category. Whereas under state law, if you're a non-vendor or lobbyist, and I mentioned this to you, you could buy somebody a 747. I mean, as long as you disclose it, disclose it if it's over $100. So the laws are very, very different. I've been, I was, I think I was interim county attorney, I don't remember, back in 2010 when this was passed. This was difficult in a lot of ways when this was passed, and because of that, there have been so many exceptions that have been built into this. And I would just mention, and you're correct, Mayor Furrer, we are held to a different standard in Broward. These things are a lot more stringent in a lot of ways. But they're also very, very confusing. I will tell you, we have three lawyers who work a lot on this, and we're blessed to have a great, thanks to you, a great law office with plenty of lawyers. The municipalities call us all the time, the municipal attorneys. They can't sort through it because of the exceptions that were all codified in an effort to make it more palatable. But I'm not arguing, I'm just mentioning. I had the experience of being a city commissioner from 2000 to 2012. And during that time, I saw a lot of stuff. All kind of gifts were thrown at the commissioners for all different kind of things. That stopped. That stopped. And it stopped cold when all this went into effect. And to me, I think that was a better thing. I didn't have to be worrying about who's given what and all those kind of things. It became a thing of the past. As an elected official, I was glad to see that go away. I didn't want to feel indebted to anybody or any of that stuff. I didn't think it was good. I didn't think it was healthy. And so I was okay with that. And when I go to other counties and when I've gone to other places, I see it's different. It's just different. I think we should be proud of the ethics, the way we do this. And so that's why I pulled it. I know, I know, I know. So I'm going to vote against it, but that's okay. Mr. Chair, I think that's a co-sponsor. So Commissioner Davis and Senator Gellar. Yeah, so I know we talk about going to the municipalities. We just talked about that for the Lauderdale change. But we never went to the municipalities when it was changed in 2010. And almost most times, not all of them, were not in agreement with the change. And now since then, I've only learned that there were some amendments to the change since I became a commissioner in Power County. Most municipalities don't even know all these different changes you've made over the years. And we have to go through our attorneys to sort them out. Whereas municipalities don't have that kind of time. They're going by the $50 and there's no amendments that they are aware of. While we have the luxury of having our attorneys and all these different amendments that they can't even figure out in a timely fashion. They do a great job, but you have to go for them for everything. I think streamlining it back to the state, which was what all the municipalities were doing, and not really treating the commission as children. We're all responsible. Just as the state, the state laws, they're responsible. If we're following the state, we should be responsible enough to do that. And we shouldn't have to be micromanaged by the county, which is what the cities felt, that the county was imposing upon the cities who would rather stay with state law. So I think going back to the state law, instead of piecemealing what has been done since 2010, because we're not at the original 2010 laws. They have changed since in the county. And they're a lot more confusing. And there's no need for it. Absolutely no need for it. You follow the state law, you get educated, you do your ethics classes every year, and keep it moving. Senator Gellar, then Commissioner Eugene. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I would agree with both you and Commissioner Bogan. I agree with you that Broward does have very clear ethical standards. I think the state of Florida has among the tightest ethical standards in the nation. But Broward, and I was opposed to it originally, removing commissioners from selection committees. That was before I was on the commission. But I think I've probably come around to that now that it probably is better. But all that Commissioner Bogan's item is doing is conforming us to state law, which has a long body. And only on the gifts. Correct, Commissioner Bogan? Yes. Okay. And if all that we're doing is taking us up to $100, I'll tell you, when the state passed, I was in the legislature, when we passed $100, and that was got to be 20 years ago, maybe 30 years ago. So $100 back then was a lot of money compared to what it is right now. I just don't see a problem with going to the state law and support Commissioner Bogan's proposal. Commissioner Eugene. So I went Friday, last Friday, the Broward League of Cities, they did their ethics seminar. Denise Horley, they did one. And they did it in response to that inspector general report on some of the gifting thing. And normally when we do our ethics thing, we get four hours and we get everything. You know, they go through the whole chapter. This was just four hours or two hours on gifting, just gifting. So what I would say is, and Sam Gorin gave it and one of the associates is from, nobody understands what the definition of the value of a gift is in the state of Florida. I don't care what it is. It could be zero as far as I'm concerned. It could be 100. I don't care what it is. But there should be one definition of what a gift is. And there are so many people that are, the questions that were coming out of there, and I think most of the stuff that we do is not a gift. I think us showing up somewhere is not a gift. Now, there is some kind of state opinion that says that is a gift. I don't, on a Thursday night when I have to show up at some library or something to do something for the county, I'd rather do other things with my time. But I think that's part of my job. Some places in the state think that's a gift. So I texted Kristen Carter when I was leaving that ethics thing, and I said, somebody should look at this because all this is set to do is trick people up. What is the value of a gift? And I would bet you if we had whoever the specialist is in ethics in your office right here, we could spend three hours talking about it, and we would not walk out of here and understand exactly what it is. It's $50. It's $100. It's $5. Now, it's $5. But if it's a friend of yours and it's not given in your official capacity, you can do whatever you want. If you stay at their house but they're there, then no gift. If they're not there, then it's a gift. I mean, there can be so many things. Like, I don't want to take anything from anybody, but I just don't want to get caught up in some nonsense, you know, as we do this. I'll report everything to everybody for everything. We're F1 filers. The city doesn't have to deal with that. Everything that we do on this ethics code, and it wasn't the county imposing this on the cities. It was the public imposing it because the public voted in the charter because the public thought we were all corrupt, and the public is voting for this. And what's happening is now, since these definitions, people are just getting tricked up. There are some corrupt elected officials out there. They screw it up for everybody else. And then they paint us all with the same brush. I'm okay with defining this however you want to define it, whatever. But give us some clear guidance on what a gift is. Okay. Vice Mayor, to the close. None of you were here except Beam and I when we first got here. And then some spouse passed away, and they were concerned, like, oh, you just sent a bouquet of flowers to somebody's spouse who was a commissioner. And then they were worried about, the commissioner was worried about, is that a gift? Or is that too much? Do you remember that, Drew? And, like, all of a sudden, like, okay, now we can't even show condolences. It was, like, ridiculous. I think the state, as you told me, Drew, provides clarity. It's pretty much simpler. It sets kind of something as what Commissioner Udine is saying. And it just makes it simple, straightforward, and that's why I brought it. Senator Ritson and Commissioner. I just have a quick question. I just want to make sure. This just has to do with gifts, right? Nothing else. None of our other policies. That's it. Okay, fine. Commissioner Fisher. Mayor, can we just, it's a motion to direct. Can we just have the attorney bring us something back for future reference if it just has to deal with a gift rather than trying to dissect it now? I think that would be helpful to us. Well, that's what we're here for. Yes, and Commissioner Fisher, just so you know, it's unlike, it's actually directing us to bring it back at your next meeting. So we would bring it back for public hearing at the next meeting. There you go. It's going to be very simple. There you go. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Okay. So do we need a motion? Do we need to vote on that? Do we need to vote on that? Yes, sir. Okay. So you want to make a motion? I'm going to move it. Second. Move it. Move it. Second. Second. We have a second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? I'll go with it just to go to the director. Okay. That passes unanimously. We turned up. We turned the mayor. I listen. I listen. I listen. I know. Because I can vote for it. Because I can vote against it later. I can't vote against it right now until then. Okay. When as mayor, you support it. So, I'm disturbed. So, 101. Motion to discuss. Process for selecting the county mayor and vice mayor. Commissioner Rodney. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I'm not going to be long. It's already a long afternoon. This conversation will not affect the order of the next appointment for mayor or commissioner. So, relax, everybody. This is about a process that speaks to district and not individuals. District and not individuals. Persons should have served on the commission for at least one year to be considered for the position of mayor. I'm just talking. A discussion. I will work with an attorney to add to the next commission agenda for a real conversation. I just want to hear from my colleagues what you think about it. It will not affect the next appointment for our next mayor and vice mayor. So, I stay on for one more year? I like to be a kid. You said earlier that this is your last meeting. You said earlier this was your last meeting. That's it. That's it. Okay. That's totally confusing. I thought you were talking about an elected mayor. I know. You were going to bring an elected mayor. I know. I know what you were thinking. And when I heard you, Udine, go there, I decided to go there, too, with you and share some stuff that we know. But this is what I just wanted to say. We're changing everything. Take a look at how we do this process. It should not just be about the individuals. It should be about making sure we're fair with every district here in Broward County because they, too, elected someone. Can I just comment? So, when I got here... Through the chair. Through the chair. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Mayor. Can I just comment? Oh, it's very good. Thank you. I'm sorry. So, when we first got here, Beam, you could... It was always seniority. When Beam and I got here, we were the low people on the totem pole. And we waited. I didn't even travel for my first four or five years because the other commissioners had seniority on me. But I'll second your motion, if you want, right now about making the next mayor, you know, two or three year terms or do whatever you want. I'm sure Beam will do it. We're good. We're good. We're just having a conversation. Okay? We are looking at other things. There's nothing wrong with us taking a look at how we do stuff. It should be fair. Yeah. Immediately. Let's do it. Commissioner Fisher, I know you need to go. Okay. Anybody else on this? You can find... Okay. The one thing that... I'll just weigh in on this. Does anybody want to weigh in on that? It's a long day. Oh, you want to talk about it next week? Go ahead. Well, the next meeting is just a reorg meeting. Now you mean just the main meeting in December. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. December 9th? So we'll all think about this. December 9th. So if I want to put a lecture around, that will be that meeting to do. It's like a hard day. You can go to the delegation. That doesn't have to go to the delegation. That I just have to convince Senator Rich and we're good. No, nothing wrong. No, no, no. Okay. And an alligator. Elected mayor. All right. So I'm not sure where we ended up with this, to be honest. It's a discussion, but... Bring it back. You can bring it back. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. With that, I think that's everything. Is that everything? Okay. So we'll do a non-agenda starting with you. I'm going to forego an essence of time. Okay. I do have one thing I want to just bring up. Okay. I have one thing I want to bring up. And I just want to, first of all, thank our administrator, our deputy county administrator, and many of the staff, for all the work they did to help put together the press conference that we convened on November 3rd regarding food insecurity. We did it right here, downstairs, in the lobby, and it was incredible. We brought together so many of the key players in Broward County that needed to be a part of this so that we could have some significant contributions to help raise money to see that our food banks and our food pantries could have a lot more food than they currently had. And our food banks were at the lowest in years, and that's Feeding South Florida and Farm Share. And so we had both of the hospital districts. We had the Children's Services Council, the Health Foundation of South Florida, United Way of Broward County, and, as I mentioned, Feeding South Florida and Farm Share, and then, of course, ourselves. And I just have to say that we have raised just about a million dollars in institutional dollars that are going to help create more of a supply in this community because there's such a tremendous need with regard to food insecurity. I want to just say that we have kind of two tracks. We have the institutional monies going through the Health Foundation of South Florida. United Way has been wonderful. We have individual donations are coming in to United Way to their offices. And it's just incredible because it's such an example of the true collaboration in Broward County, all of us working together when there's a serious problem. The last thing I want to say about it is it's not over. It's not over. Even when the SNAP money comes back, which will take weeks, when it comes back, we had this problem with the SNAP money. We don't have enough money to provide for food and feeding of people in Broward County. So we're planning on continuing this. United Way right now has been doing a weekly distribution, over 300 people each time going through their parking lot. These are the TSA people that were not getting paid and going to work every day and not being able to have food and pay their rent and so forth. So there's just been so much going on here. And there was a particular quote that I used that day because 40% of those that have food insecurity are children. And the quote was from the Nobel laureate, Gabriela Mistral. Many things we need can wait. The child cannot. Now is the time. His bones are formed. His mind is being developed. To the child, we cannot say tomorrow. The child's name is today. Thank you. Thank you. Vice Mayor Rogan. Yes. Your mic. Your mic. Can we use funds from our excess campaign account? You know, that account that we have? Can that be used to buy the goods or donate to those nonprofits? I think so. That's my understanding. Yeah. We'll take a look. But I believe that charitable contributions are within the office accounts. But I always like to look at the statute before a binding. We will get back to you. And we'll send an email out to everyone on that. Because I'm having a food distribution on the 21st or I think, whatever. And I would love, because of that, I have county employees glad to come to my events. And I tell them, come. That's your taxpayer dollars working for you. So don't believe county employees. Don't benefit and value what we're doing. Vice Mayor Rogan. Tuesday, I'm announcing a new program. I hope you support it. It has to do with feeding people who are hungry. All serious. You'll hear about it. Commissioner Udy. Our former library director, Sam Morrison, he was a Broward pioneer. So I was a Broward pioneer also for the city of Parkland. We did a big event in Hollywood last week. I thought when you're a pioneer, I guess that means you're getting older if you get nominated as a Broward pioneer. But it was great to see all the different people with all their different contributions to the county and to making South Florida better. Food insecurity. Yeah, I mean, I agree. We need to do what we can as a commission here. We talk a lot about the affordability issues. Today there was a study that foreclosures have now jumped 20 percent year over year. I think that we're – I think that this – the economic recovery that we're seeing, I think, is branching in different ways. If you have dollars, your recovery is okay. If you don't have dollars, you're going to be in for a world to hurt pretty soon. And I think we're going to see a lot more affordable housing because I think you're going to see a lot more housing values go down as more of the supply gets out on the market. But I guess we've been saying that before. I guess we're going to get a judge of that pretty soon, I think, as to how this plays out with housing prices. Great job by the National Championship Committee. I know Monica was on the dais yesterday. They did their kickoff lunch. They want to do a lot of stuff in Broward County. The economic impact in Broward County is enormous. Yeah, over $30 million will be spent right in Broward County. Those are jobs. Those are high-paying – you know, those are dollars that are falling right to the bottom line of county residents. And it's going to be an exciting time over the next few months in South Florida. Those are my comments, plus whatever else I forgot. Senator Jeller. A couple of things. First, briefest, I've been having my town meetings that I have in every city repeatedly. I had one yesterday in Davie. Secondly, all of us have seen what the CFO has been saying about our overspending. County attorney, I have sent you copies of the links to all of my four emails that I have gone into in great depth, both in English as opposed to county budget speak. Our county – our budget numbers showing where the money comes from, where it goes, that although the governor refers to our $9 billion budget, which is really $8.775 billion, our general revenue is either $1.9 or $1.65 to $1.9, but that includes $265 million in reserves. So if you take that out, our general revenue that we spend is only $1.6 billion. I know the sheriff today put out a reel saying our budget is $5.5 billion. Again, the money that's available to us to spend is about $1.6 billion, something that is – when you see my emails, it's important to understand that the CFO essentially made up his numbers when he said that we had overspent. The standard that everybody uses for population in the state of Florida is Bieber, Bureau of Economic and Business Research from University of Florida. That showed our population grew by 70-something thousand. CFOs said it grew by 50,000. When he was asked where he got that number, he declined to answer, said several sources. Inflation in Broward County during that time was, according to the CPI, official federal CPI for Dade Broward, Palm Beach, was 29%. He came up with the number 24%. When asked where he came up with that number, he declined to say, said it was from a number of sources. And then we have two budget numbers, the budget book and – what's the other number? AFRA? ACFER. ACFER, which stands for something else. But the two numbers measure different things. And one is always $100 million higher than the other. He started with the lower number, the budget book number, and finished – or started with the ACFER number and finished with the budget book. It's accurate to compare ACFER to ACFER or budget book to budget book. But you can't compare one to the other because they're different numbers that measure different things. If you look at the correct numbers, A, even under his phony numbers, Broward was, of the eight counties he studied, eight entities, six counties, two cities, we were the lowest per capita at $90 a person. But more importantly, if you used the correct numbers, we met his test. I'm sending you all – or the county attorney will send you all of the emails I've done. All of this information is in there. Nobody's going to read my emails, but you should because they'll give you the answers. The last thing is I don't know if I'm asking Monica or Kevin or Mike, but, Sheriff, we have – we were served – Drew, when was Friday? Was it Friday? Friday. I believe we have five days to respond to that. I think it's five business days, I hope. So my question is – I've got a two-fold question. Number one, what are we doing on that? And number two, I have been asking for Plan B for at least three years now. Do we have Plan B? And if so, what is it? The sheriff earlier today in his Reels item said, well, of the $820 million, $33 million, somewhere around there that we give him, $550 million is for things that the county is responsible for, which to me is an admission against interest. Lawyers would like that. But that he's saying that most of the stuff he's only doing by contract for us, which to me means it's a contract dispute, which to me means the governor and cabinet don't have authority over that. But I just want to know how we're responding, if you can tell us. And secondly, do we have Plan B? Drew, if you want to go ahead. I think my part might be easier than the Plan B discussion. Senator, you're right. We were served with a brief last Friday. It's weird. Today's Thursday. I'm used to being here, as you all are, on Tuesdays. Right. So we are, we interpret it. There is a rule that talks about it being five business days with a holiday. We have until Monday. Okay. We are working closely with county administration. That's how courts count days. Yeah. Yes. But we're treating it as a reply brief. So my office is working on it. We have a team of lawyers that's been drafting, analyzing and drafting. I want to say more or less around the clock, weekends, the holiday, we've had calls every day. I've been out of it yesterday and today. Renee's been partially out of it yesterday and today. But I'll be getting back into it in a few minutes. The statute, like many statutes, is not written with such incredible clarity on issues like you mentioned, in terms of the scope of the appeal for raising the issues. We think we have good arguments. We really do appreciate OMB and Michael Rees, mostly at admin, but other folks in admin, are putting together the facts that we're inserting as record sites essentially into the brief. And I'm supposed to get a solid version of it tomorrow morning. And then we're going to be going through all weekend and getting this thing ready to be filed. So that's really it on that. Thank you for the information that you're sending. We're raising every strong argument that we can think of. I used to be the county's chief appellate counsel. I don't believe in quantity. I believe in quality in terms of the arguments. You can't take 5%, 10% arguments and say, oh, we have a great chance of winning because it's 50%. You have to have really good arguments. So that's what we're developing. And I will let Monica handle the part about Plan B. Thank you, Drew. And to clarify or to reiterate, I should say, our office and budget have been lockstep and working very, very closely with the attorneys. And I think there's a new sense of appreciation for both sides working so closely together on this. It's been long hours, long days, all day, every day. But we've got a great collective team. As far as Plan B, you guys have asked me for a Plan B. And like you said, the earlier post today, I think, was actually very helpful to us with the different components. We are engaging with a consultant. We're hoping to finalize that scope, hopefully within the next day or so, and to review the things you guys have asked us to about airport, seaport, police forces, like you guys have publicly asked me in different budget workshops. So it is happening. We're very, very close. We got our final hurdle clarified today about county administrator and purchasing director's authority to engage in that study. And I think hopefully, probably by tomorrow, I might be able to sign that engagement. So that's underway. I have one additional follow-up on that. Are there any, I mean, I think all of us would prefer to resolve this if it's resolvable. I don't know if there have been any ongoing negotiations with the sheriff, you know, does, if it's an extra $20, let's give it to him. If it's an extra $200 million, yeah. I know it's not $20, and I know it's not $200 million, but I'm just inquiring whether there are any ongoing settlement, or is it just we'll see you at dawn with 20 paces with pistols? As we understand the process, there will be encouragement to try to settle. Once our brief is filed, we've seen their brief, obviously, and we've assessed their position. They'll see our brief, and they'll assess our position. Our board's reasonable, but obviously is dealing with constraints and other issues. But, yeah, I imagine that at some point people realize that you're always better off controlling your own destiny and trying to reach an agreement, assuming it works for both sides. So as soon as we come up for error, and, yes, Monica, we're working very close with the administration very closely. Obviously, we do that a lot, but normally it's not on as short of use, and we are getting to know each other better, even though we've all been here for a long time. So once that's done, we'll come up for error. I think you know I'm a certified mediator. I believe in – you believe in mediation. We would try to get things resolved if there's a way of doing it. But the ask is very, very significant at this point, and I don't know what the odds are of having a resolution any time soon. Well, please keep us informed on Plan B, and if anybody else had comment. So as it goes through the process, what happens if there's something that's adverse to our financial position with the county? When – that's what I thought you meant also. Is it – it only comes out of reserves, or how do we – I mean, would you – are we explaining property properly to the public that there could be reduced services because of something? Is there any downside to any side here? So at this point, you know, I think we're many months away from that, and I don't know really – there's not a lot of experience in the world of sheriffs' appeals statewide and how that would really be effectuated on the backside. If the governor and cabinet say, you know, there's X percent that needs to be, you know, given, then I think that that would probably have to come back to you all to decide how to fund that. Immediately, if it happens in the middle of the fiscal year, depending on how much it is, that would temper the recommendation I would have for you. I would come to you all with some options. Obviously, the reserves would have to be in play. You know, we're clearly not at the level that we ought to be at, given the size of government that we have. We still aren't there now. It's supposed to be around 17 percent, and even had a conversation with the auditor, I think it was yesterday, about GFOA even has different sliding scale based on if your county is in an area of – what's the word? Risk. Of risk. There's a technical, you know, definition of if your county is in an area of risk, which we are, clearly, Hurricane Alley, then your reserves actually should be higher than that standard 17 kind of percent, 16.7, I think it is. So, we're not even at that level. So, you know, that would be of concern, but it would have to be in play. Interesting. I read it on social media. I think you do a good job with social media, I think. Commissioner Rogers. I know you don't, but I do. Okay. Steve. Thank you. Let me share with you item 6 to 9. It's an audit that was done, the report number 2602, whenever you have the time. But I can tell you that I asked for the review, which resulted in greater collaboration between the auditor and our administrator. That's the most time I've spent on any one topic. I just want you, both of you, to know. I don't usually do that, but what came out of it is what I love. I love the transparency. I love the fact that we work together to come up with solutions. As long as the county auditor and the county administrator continue to be transparent and working to get everything through and discussing and evaluating the best approach, I know we'll be getting the best response from us because, you know, we hear the auditor and the manager doing well. All is well with Broward County. So I just wanted to acknowledge that. And there was a young lady that I forgot to mention. And her name is Colleen Goodsmore, and she was the director for the Lauder Hill Chamber of Commerce, executive director, young lady, and she passed. And I just did not want her family to think I forgot her already. She was a good friend of mine, so just wanted to acknowledge her. And that is where I'm going to stop until I love to brag on all the things we're doing and things that have been done. But it's been a long day, and I have another 4 o'clock appointment, so guys, cut it out. Okay, I'll be real quick. First, I just want to thank a few of you all filled in for me while I was gone. Thank you at the LeVon Center. I think Fisher did it with some Cruz stuff. All of you all filled in. A lot of press conferences going on while I was gone. It was like, oh, a lot of stuff going. Stuff that, just real quick, stuff at COP, since the U.S. has retreated from COP, there was a lot of excitement for the U.S. cities to be there. That's what we felt, because they felt like that's where the momentum would keep going. So I'll fill you all in a little bit more on that later. But it was a very good trip, and we learned a lot. Friday is an industry day for the airport for looking at all. Were you about to go into this? No. Oh, okay. Oh, tomorrow. Yes, that's right. I still think it's Tuesday, too. Finally, after five or six years of having a plan together, we're inviting all of the industry in to look at what's going to be built. And that's a major milestone, so I'm glad to see that. And just real quick on animal care. You know, having done this year, they have broken a number of records. 3,894 adoptions, which is great. We found 568 missing pets, all that stuff. For those of us that have been here for a while, to hear all kind of just nothing but good stuff, it's like it's just, yeah, Director Brightwell is doing a great job. So with that, I'll go to County Edmond, and then I'll go to Bob. I'll go to Bob first. Bob, go ahead. Okay. County Edmond. I was going to bring up FLL Industry Day. I'm glad you did. I'll be there with you in the morning. And I wanted to just say thank you to our team collectively. There's been, like you said, a lot of activity. We've been engaged in a lot of areas. And I just wanted to share that from the Hurricane Melissa Jamaica relief effort, our first little round of employee payroll deductions has yielded over $7,000 immediately the first round. So I was proud of our team for that collectively, and it's a lot of support for that. I also had animal care on my list because that's a great success. We've been having tremendous success. And thank you all for your support because there's just been a lot going on lately, and our team is feeling a little pulled in every direction. But I appreciate you all. Thank you. County Attorney. And, Mayor, just very quickly, as you thank folks while you were out, I just want to thank the CAO team for getting everything done while I was out and things in great shape. And in particular, Renee and Anika for sitting here and doing a great job during the meeting. And you know what? That's what I was afraid of. Yeah. That's what I was afraid of. So anyway, thank you. Thank you. And lastly, this is my last meeting. I will not seek nor accept a nomination for another term. Thank you. It's been fun. Yep. Thank you. Next meeting. Thank you.