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Budget Workshop - Aug 25, 2026

Broward County, FL County Commission August 25, 2026 215 minutes
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SPEAKER_0010:24

their seats please let's get going good morning steven good morning everybody welcome to our budget meeting um good morning good morning um you know now i know that we already had the last commission meeting we honored drew um but since this is his last meeting meeting i think michael

SPEAKER_0111:04

eudin had an idea i don't think he did as good of a job last meeting so let's let him do the pledge of allegiance again i wasn't sure he really does it right we normally don't it's right behind you drew all right let's do it i wasn't here so i didn't get a chance to hear him he should be the

SPEAKER_0011:20

only one says it yeah by yourself when you're on your vacation you see a flag you just do that naturally before we start our meeting let michael and nan know one second hey before we start our meeting um i i had a vendor that came to me that was upset with the way the vendor was being treated okay i don't want to say any names and monica is looking into it and i appreciate your time with that but i something i wanted to bring up in our next commission meeting you know if some if any anyone of the public or any vendor we have hundreds of vendors feel they're being treated unfairly by a staff person or they're not no one's getting back to them i suggested years and years ago when bertha was here of an ombudsman somebody where people can go to so this vendor had nobody to go to for years and years he felt like he couldn't come he didn't realize he can come to one of us and um i just wanted you to think about it and something i want to talk about in our next meeting of having an ombudsman where whether it be a a resident of broward or a vendor if they feel like nobody's getting back to them or the red tape is is hindering them with something they have somebody to go to and um just a thought maybe a dumb thought but it's just a thought that i'm going to bring up with that said

SPEAKER_0213:02

monica i'll let you take over what our budget works thank you good morning everyone um so today we have a busy agenda um thank you and we're going to try to get through this uh painless and and efficiently first up we've got um our port everglades um budget workshop uh and then we've got uh four other uh overviews and and presentations for you so we will go we'll kick off with uh mr morris thank you

SPEAKER_0113:29

all right i heard uh quick and efficient so we'll uh we'll try to do that the best he's the best port

SPEAKER_0213:34

director that's the way he should be described in the country for sure and maybe even in the world

SPEAKER_0113:39

oh you humble me you humble me uh good morning commissioners um i just want to quickly introduce before we get going uh two members of my team that are here at the table deputy director uh of the port uh glenn wiltshire who i think everybody knows and is in the world the best deputy port director um and leah brasso who's our uh director of finance uh at the port uh we do have a couple team members in the audience but we won't go through uh everybody because quick and efficient so i am apparently driving the slides okay uh so no surprise here our big three continues to perform uh very very well and uh i think we've done a great job of of uh marketing and advertising and and uh supporting uh these three business lines that uh are the majority of what the port uh does uh with our tenants with our stakeholders and for our regional community and businesses uh so just a reminder in our fiscal year 2025 we for the first time in the port's history uh broke volume or throughput records for each of the big three in the same year uh cruise with 4.77 million uh guests and cargo with 1.167 million teus and energy with 131.8 barrels now these are impressive numbers but to give it context where do we rank then in the state for each of these big three which by the way no other port in the state of florida and very few in the u.s if any can can show a diverse diverse portfolio uh that our big three does so for cruise uh in the state we're number three but as everybody knows we're also number three home port for cruise port in the world right uh for cargo uh this performance uh for fiscal year 25 put us at number two in the state of florida uh just behind a port a little bit further to the north uh but uh but we hope we're closing the gap on that and then on energy number one in the state of florida for energy products that move through the port of course we support 12 counties five international airports and uh millions of residents and businesses and as a recap our economic impact uh study from that fiscal year uh increased our profile quite a bit uh you can see the jobs numbers there you know most important i think the 13 139 direct local jobs nearly 300 000 jobs throughout the state of florida and uh with our economic impact of 48.3 billion that was a significant increase uh mainly because we fully incorporated the energy portfolio uh we were we were not aligned with industry reporting standards so with uh the the world's leading consultant in this field um we were uh we reviewed all that and opted to uh to fully include it uh without it um if we had stayed with our traditional reporting measures we would have been around 34 billion um for uh for our fiscal year 25 numbers again record-breaking performance uh 48.3 billion um so thank you for your support in us uh allowing us to execute that as we look at current trends in in crews um i mentioned our record-breaking year 4.77 million for fiscal year 25 we've already broken that record uh with our numbers through july so we don't have august we don't have september yet we've already broken uh and created a new record uh we have some milestones coming up as we do every year it seems with new cruise ships or uh milestones around cruise ships um november early november will be the largest cruise ship in the world royal caribbean's legend of the seas um calling uh calling port everglades home for this season we also have uh that that breadth of uh offerings right from family friendly to luxury cruising and crystal symphony with their newly renovated uh vessel will be coming uh also in november of this year uh as it relates to cruise uh you know our discussions with management over at the omni hotel continue to be excited about what that proximity uh allows them to to leverage with the cruise guests with the cruise lines um and they've reported uh from their from their perspective high numbers of guests that are staying uh at their hotel in conjunction with a cruise whether that's on the front end or on the back end and then as a reminder the master vision plan that you all voted for and approved back in november of last year uh of the 3.8 billion uh in in projects over the next 20 years 1.7 billion of that is uh directly associated with with cruise projects and in cargo um as mentioned we had a record setting year uh for fiscal year 25 and as you'll see here uh coming up we're actually you know on on pace for um for a great year again here in fiscal year 26 uh it probably won't establish a new record but it should be the second highest uh volume on record for the port um and a couple things are continuing to contribute to that uh our position our strength in latin america we do have a shipping line uh that has the only direct service to venezuela that's the the third bullet that's referenced here and that has come in handy of course is that country has needed some some supply and some support uh we've got some some shipping line partners and local businesses that have been able to uh to take advantage of that and most recently uh we have now direct connectivity to asia and that's through an msc mediterranean shipping company service uh that called here for the first time in july and then subsequently uh just a few weeks later the largest container ship ever to call port everglades over 13 000 teus uh did arrive uh as part of that uh that service um and you know as we highlighted in our press release great milestone largest ship ever uh big uh thank you to our partners uh with the pilots the tugs etc right it is a machine that that makes our port work uh but it had to come in severely underutilized and underloaded uh which just again highlights the need for the deepening and widening which we continue to put effort into continuing on cargo um our our standing in the container port productivity index this is a measure of more than 400 global ports we remain in the top 25 percent worldwide so this is a another indicator that the infrastructure investments that we've made southport turning notch in particular for this metric has allowed our clients to uh to perform well using our assets using our infrastructure uh so we're very proud of that and then on the foreign trades outside uh we uh we remain uh very high profile in um in our performance there in our rankings um with more than 8.6 billion dollars and the really interesting fact here is that this is about 50 50 this is 4.3 billion in imports and 4.3 billion in exports so a very unique situation uh where a lot of ports uh you know are are one-sided right and heavily weighted towards one flow uh but this also shows in our overall cargo activity where we remain a trade surplus port so by value and by volume we continue to export more than we import so that says a lot about the local businesses as we move on to energy um we we continue to see uh strong demand for diesel and jet fuel um but a modest decrease in gasoline consumption um you know this is on the heels of our record-breaking fy25 now we're probably in line for the second highest volume of barrels of petroleum products coming through the port for this fiscal year um we we do see a a consistent pattern with the volume that is sourced domestically uh in recent months uh with some conflicts happening abroad we have seen that tick up as high as in a single month 99 percent of product being sourced domestically versus the the typical 90 to 92 percent uh but again no no no impact to volume or or supply uh in terms of availability uh but just where it's coming from and and what vessels it's coming in on uh we do continue to see this transition to future fuels in particular with the cruise industry uh lng bunkering has really stepped up its activity in the port and we have many partners that are able to provide that service uh and that fuel uh to to the cruise lines that want it to need it and we also as a reminder do have a cargo ship that has some alternative fuels now this we didn't make a big announcement at the time with respect to a request from the the partner cruise line uh but the first ever methanol bunkering of a cruise ship in the united states happened at port everglades earlier this year um this was a tremendous team effort and shows the the strength of our port community from a business from an expertise uh from a uh purely from an engineering ingenuity perspective uh that they were able to come to the table and make something happen um with our uh major capital projects slip one widening still remains a priority for the energy business um as well as shore power for uh for our cruise terminals so slip one uh based on private sector uh request has has slipped in the timeline a little bit um but right now uh the target is that we'll begin that in early 2028 and as a reminder just a few months ago the aecom contract was approved by by the commission uh and they are studying our first phase of the shore power system all right so year-to-date performance um i'm very happy that uh we've got an overall 12 percent uh number above our forecasted budget or excuse me against last year's uh budget um this this growth shows the strength of our of our port tenants uh and the regional businesses that uh that require their services as well of course as uh our tourism and in the cruise industry so cruise uh the biggest jump there um with uh 20 percent change uh for for year over year and this reflects also in our cruise guest activity um with energy and and cargo as i mentioned we're probably coming in for the second best year on record uh but with cruise we already have established that new record for guest throughput uh you can see the rest here parking continues to be a strong uh performing item for us uh break bulk which we know can can fluctuate based on uh local project demand uh as well as some of the bulk commodities um and and lay in while it's got a high percentage there um it's relatively small dollar amount and then on the other this is uh primarily due to a one-time law enforcement trust fund settlement of 2.7 million dollars which has some restrictions on how it can be spent um but uh but we thank our our partners for uh for breaking that into the port and now we get into our recommended budget so you can see here our uh big three uh continued to be uh just that although cruise is as it was last year starting to separate itself uh and and really be uh be a clear leader with first time ever forecasted to achieve more than 100 million dollars in revenue uh accounting for yes roughly 39 percent of the overall portfolio so our big three still accounts for about 80 percent but that's down from recent years where it totaled between 83 and 85 percent and this is just the strength of our other uh portfolio items that are that are uh improving uh primarily the real estate uh and our other buckets uh but in particular for this year uh it's parking and we'll get into that uh in a moment so to compare the uh fy26 adopted budget versus our proposed fy27 budget you can see positive increase across the board uh cruise is going to be driven by uh both rate increases as well as uh passenger activity um the cargo side is primarily driven by uh our forecast for for uh revenue increases um or rate increases um and similar for energy um again coming off the heels of the highest performing uh year for each of these big three um and and this year looking that we'll have you know number one or number two positions for for each of those big three again um you know i think steady uh performance there is quite healthy given all the outside noise and uncertainty that the world brings us every day from a real estate perspective we have made a strong initiative to uh right size our uh our market uh rates um so we've been very active in the past 14 months or so uh bringing our tenants up to uh to appropriate uh levels uh and that's reflected uh here as we continue to see that uh that percentage of the portfolio increase now parking you can see an asterisk here um this includes uh our forecast of nineteen point one million uh assuming uh a five dollar increase to our park our daily parking rate currently at twenty dollars uh we're proposing uh to move that to twenty five um and we can get into more of that during the question and answer if there is any uh specifics uh we have some data that shows that we will still not be the highest uh charging uh port that uh you know this is primarily driven by crews and we will still not be the highest uh but will be we think right sizing uh supply demand we continue with our capital projects to focus on improving that situation creating more supply but as it stands right now we believe this is an appropriate move within the market and for our lay-in

SPEAKER_0328:57

uh we you can see a one million dollar increase so a percentage big dollar amount um still still impactful uh but the main reason here is we just see a continuing uh trend up on this we've over performed on the budget uh the last couple of years in this one uh so uh this this is our our forecast uh

SPEAKER_0129:17

that that we will see um in our proposal so lay-in is uh vessels that that come in without any direct cargo passenger or or product movement uh just requiring a safe space to to tie up a parking space if you will um to do crew changes or resupply uh perhaps refuel uh so so that's uh or seek safe harbor right so this is this is our lay-in bucket and on the operating sides um that's catchy for those online

SPEAKER_0330:01

i couldn't hear uh we're about to do some louis louis um so our forecasted operating expenses um you can see that the distribution here um and uh no surprise as is typical in most ports uh security law enforcement fire rescue and personnel are the two largest buckets um for for any ports expense portfolio um and i think we've got some more details here on the next slide or we can do this comparison um so overall you can see a two percent increase compared to our budget from our adopted budget for this current fiscal year um and i'll just uh remind the the commission the board that our revenues are forecasted to increase eleven percent we're very proud of that cost control uh while still providing the right service um and uh and infrastructure upkeep that is required of our tenants and our our stakeholders uh but on the revenue side we're happy to see that that's growing at a faster pace of course we have a lot of projects to fund um and not just bless you not just in the short term but long term right we have uh tremendous aspirations that are in line with market needs market assumptions um so so every dollar of course that we earn goes right back into investing in the future i'll call out uh on the um on the security and the fire ems there is a double asterisk there you can see the bullet at the bottom of the slide um from what i understand these negotiations are still ongoing um so these are not final numbers but this is our best assumption as of now the best deputy port director in the world uh just whispered in my ear and suggested i also call out the first asterisk which is our personnel because of the strength and the performance of our cruise business we we feel it is appropriate and we're thankful to have the support of county administration on strengthening that that team by adding some frontline workforce as well as an overall director level position to run that segment of our business so three total headcount being proposed how many people encompass the personnel so our total headcount as of right now is 270 excuse me 268 and if those three positions are

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approved it'll be 271. so 271 and that budget for that is 36 million that's correct and then of course

SPEAKER_0333:01

another important aspect of uh what we what we do at the ports is our capital improvement program uh for the first time the the five-year road map is looking out at uh over a billion dollars and so i mentioned uh you know an important uh balance between our cost and our revenue and this is why um you know from from the 309 million in general infrastructure 181 million in cruise terminals um as well as nearly 300 million on bulkheads which continues to uh to be an important part of you know uh our future for the larger vessels as well as uh you know replacing old aged infrastructure i think i mentioned last year we got our money's worth with the current bulkheads that are throughout the port they outlived their technical lifetime um so this is an important important project for the port and our tenants and then of course down in the bottom left we continue to have 100 million in reserve to spend on deepening and widening which continues to make progress at the federal level um not always as fast i think as we would like but we do have uh have good momentum and hopefully some milestones upcoming to support

SPEAKER_0434:19

senator geller is waiting uh waiting for that one senator geller's been waiting for this for over 30 years

SPEAKER_0334:26

you're not alone sir uh but we continue to put uh i believe uh a healthy amount of effort into this and i think that the conversations that we're having with folks now are steering this to uh to a place where hopefully we can we can see some of that rather than uh paper right we can see that infrastructure change uh highlighting some of the capital improvements that are proposed um and as part of our master vision plan we talked about bulkheads already uh we've got some that have been completed and some that continue to uh to make progress for their next steps we continue to work with our tenants on this we've done this for you know things simple quote unquote simple things such as fender replacements to work with our cargo lines uh our cargo operators to um to make sure that doesn't impede their schedule too much we've got our crane project which is ongoing we do the same thing scheduling efforts scheduling efforts are extremely important and we appreciate their their collaboration there and bulkheads will be the same we've actually shifted a couple of these to align uh better for our cruise partners uh based on their ship deployments so um you know it's important part of of having a highly utilized uh high performing port and being able to maintain that while we do some of these massive major infrastructure upgrades or replacements so i'll just do a quick shout out to the port everglades team as well as all of our tenants for for having those not always easy but but important discussions as mentioned already parking we know that there's a continued demand for that so we do have a project out on the street right now that would create at least one additional vertical parking structure in the port and i already mentioned our crane upgrades that continues to progress slip one we talked about a little bit earlier um and our consolidated maintenance facility campus uh is uh is on its third site now as we look to to maximize position proximity as well as land availability uh in the port um so our team is uh is moving forward with uh with that third site as potentially and likely the final um our second floor addition for our port security operation center continues to uh to be in progress um but but it's another year away or so from being finalized um and you know cruise terminals are a big part of our uh cruise um our cruise offering right um and these projects uh that that we have in line to um modernize to improve their state um these are are receiving great feedback from from our cruise line partners as not only necessary but um but also welcome to uh to improve the attractiveness uh for for the port i think we've talked about all three of those there on the bottom and i believe that concludes the fy 27 uh budget overview um we know that last friday that county administration shared the latest feasibility study as it relates to law enforcement and security from uh jensen hughes uh specifically this time about port everglades um and i believe um if you haven't had a chance to review that the high level is uh you know the answer is yes it is indeed feasible uh over a uh a rough time period for three to five years um and then the cost excuse me the cost estimates are also in that uh that report um there are some assumptions in there um and you know we've got not only glenn who's been leading this project for us but we do have uh members from jensen hughes that are here in the audience um that uh that contributed to that report so we thank them for for that um and uh i believe if we want to tee that up for questions on everything then uh that concludes my presentation i hope that met the expectations of quick joe you didn't put anybody to sleep that's

SPEAKER_0438:49

that's the best thing you know what i mean uh i'll go around any questions we'll start on this side and

SPEAKER_0538:56

come around okay mr davis thank you um the study who's who's doing that presentation so we didn't have

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have a presentation planned i live for to county administration on we we have the ability to

SPEAKER_0639:16

we have some slides i believe that we can share i think we were just going to see if there were questions that the consultants are here and they can come to the table and give an overview if you'd like and and also i know between um joe and and michael ruiz we were going to go through it with you all if you had if you'd like us to go through it in a particular type of a presentation format so that's not going to be done today well we can if we'd like if you'd like i don't know the rest of the

SPEAKER_0539:45

board but you know if it's not done now i'd like it done you know um individually if it's not done in the open so that's fine um but i will i certainly would like to see it done and the public i'm sure

SPEAKER_0439:58

would like to know but you know it's up to you but if we're talking bso um that would consume several hours of today's meeting i don't know that we have time i agree with commissioner davis it's important to have this done and in the public i just don't know that we can why don't we set a secret time for that we can do that all right thank you another workshop and then just a couple of

SPEAKER_0540:26

questions um i know uh you mentioned about the cruise ships a couple moving where they're moving from and moving to our port but are they new ships or are they moving from some other so so the legend

SPEAKER_0340:42

of the seas the two that i referenced earlier in the presentation legend of the seas is going to be a new ship for port everglades it is fresh out of the shipyard earlier this summer um and has been active in the europe and mediterranean uh during the season but it'll call port everglades home um as at its first u.s or north america uh tour and the other one and the other one is a renovated vessel um from crystal cruise lines that um is you know more on the luxury end of of cruise offerings so a much smaller ship uh but um but that renovation i'm not sure how much money they put into that but they've done uh i believe they've done one ship um every other year for the last couple years

SPEAKER_0541:29

okay the other question i had for you was the ride share and you mentioned that uh you know parking view is up i do believe that the airport was the opposite is there is there reasons for that so we

SPEAKER_0341:44

continue to see uh with the change in itineraries and this has been evolving over the last couple years with cruise lines they're they're moving to shorter cruises in some cases right they're still offering seven ten and then in in some extreme cases you know 14 day uh itineraries as well as some very special uh repositioning which are typically one way uh voyages for for any cruise guests that would come out of port everglades but there's also been an injection of a lot of three and four day uh cruise itineraries and this has a hundred percent to do with the massive investment that the cruise lines have made in the caribbean the private islands and their control of the itineraries and the offerings and in our proximity our location to to those private islands they're able to to still provide a great um experience for their guests on a shorter sailing so with that we see a higher acceptance of um of being able you know or driving in and paying for parking but it also i think also speaks a little bit more to a drive-in market which we are roughly 78 percent drive-in 22 percent fly-in based on the last data set that we have thank you that makes makes sense and then and then

SPEAKER_0542:58

lastly i know i'd spoken before about assist support opportunities and had mentioned that there are no sister ports out of the continent of africa are we still looking at that opportunity and i think you mentioned morocco you know i know how many day you know they have several um sister ports in the continent i'm just surprised we have none in the continent of africa commissioner we we actually

SPEAKER_0343:31

are still working on the formal program uh i did speak with county administration this morning if you recall back in february or march um there was a direction from from the board to formalize that sister seaports program so we've done a couple iterations uh the latest one we should be sharing with county administration before the end of this week and we'll bring that before the board which will then allow us to uh to go and partner and sign agreements with uh ports from all over the world and uh particular focus where where we have some blind spots right now thank you thank you mayor well done

SPEAKER_0444:08

thank you you have no questions no better than that um yeah yes no better than that yes mr morris morris good job um and uh i in reference the port mix that we have roughly third third third although it's not really but close um that for those of us that were on the commission during covid will remember that while other ports around the country that were primarily cruise ports were dying our mixed of the big three is what kept us afloat so you know that's important i have a couple of very quick questions um and i actually i guess i'll ask you all three now and then let you answer all three um number one is how do our cruise fees compare to our competitors here in florida i mean on our i assume it's uh i don't know if it's whether it's per passenger or tonnage but are we competitive with our major competitors here in florida secondly um if you can give us a brief update on the deepening i am so you know i worked on that when i was in the legislature i've been big supporter on the commission i'm unfortunately starting to believe it's not going to occur during my tenure on the commission uh i have a little over two years left seems whenever we resolve one lawsuit another one gets filed and you know i'm just hoping you can give us a quick update on that and finally as i've told you before uh you know big supporter high paid jobs which we get at the port if there is any additional land that you can purchase for the port don't discuss it publicly of course but um you know i think that the commission would be supportive of that and if you can answer those questions i'm done great so

SPEAKER_0346:14

if i got this right question number one how do our cruise fees compare with other uh cruise ports here

SPEAKER_0446:19

in the state um i don't want you to comment on the last one so it was only two how do our cruise fees and

SPEAKER_0346:27

give us an update on deepening yep so so cruise fees i think are unique for every port because what's what's called a passenger uh user charge or puck um is you know it's going to encompass different fees for for every port depending on their structure uh so i'm not sure in apples to apples if we were to just take the publicly available rates uh that that are signed with the individual cruise lines on on their contracts um but we we could probably follow up and see if we can do some sort of comparison uh for for us uh you know our biggest baseline is are we better today than we were yesterday right uh we are trying to bring some things a little closer in line with with market with our competitors but remain an attractive partner for our cruise line so that balance i'm sure you can appreciate is one that uh that our team is very focused on um on maintaining um and we will be um probably in the next month or so bringing forward the latest cruise line extension agreement uh for royal caribbean uh for the board to uh to review and approve uh hopefully um but we can follow up with with the details of how

SPEAKER_0447:35

that comparison looks i'm just interested i know our airport is one of the lowest fees in the country and i'm a big supporter of stealing cruise business from other cruise ports if we can

SPEAKER_0347:45

understood uh on deepening and widening um there continues to be review of the project um with the the main goal of um of getting getting it moving um now there's been a lot of changes with the current administration um and and how they view the um the federal responsibilities of certain agencies and that review has been very active here this year and we hope within the next couple of months that we see some sort of conclusion from the federal partners that have been involved in those discussions and those reviews which will allow us to have a clearer path forward not just on timeline but then hey what are the first couple things that we might be able to do outside of potential litigation that that is still uh active um and um and like i said uh you know hopefully see some movement on this project rather

SPEAKER_0748:42

than see a lot of paperwork thank you i have um one question a good uh report and i was going to ask about the uh deepening but uh that was answered and i often ask you for updates on that but my my question would come from the um tourism development council our last meeting the board was concerned about um parking you mentioned it in your report but um so you're going to put it out for bid so we uh we

SPEAKER_0349:19

actually already did and we've got um uh some some the rfp closed i believe in august early august early july excuse me uh so we have seven uh bids and uh the evaluation committee is uh is doing that work

SPEAKER_0749:34

now to determine uh the next steps and my concern is i didn't know how grave uh urgency it was for parking i didn't know that i've been here four years this is my first time really getting into the nuts and bolts of it but i was um disturbed and i heard that parking is a big concern over here so if all the cruise ships are at port uh and another event is going on we just made an investment in this omni hotel and all the other improvements at the convention center and we're putting a parking garage out forbid now i mean it's like the maybe i wasn't here i mean how did we get so far behind on not having parking for what we're marketing day in and day out as our big economic engine and we don't have sufficient parking so my board was concerned i was glad they brought it up but i was also taken aback when uh this was presented to me and i sit on this board so maybe someone could help me uh wrap my

SPEAKER_0350:51

my head around what why we're here so vice mayor i will say for cruise parking availability uh majority of the year we are in great shape where um and i'll mention that as part of our terminal 18 uh investment over the summer to get ready for the largest cruise ship in the world we have increased um parking by 852 spaces um we where we i wouldn't say concern but where we have um our peaks around holiday travel and holiday cruise that's where we we have to get creative and we redeploy uh some available space within the port and we make adjustments with with shore staff that are parking there to to support you know the multiple cruise ships that are in on those peak days around that peak travel time um so we get creative with with where those folks are able to park to ensure that the cruise guests have space um so we we manage it well um but we know that with you know continued growth we will need additional uh availability we will need additional resources so this is why now we're looking at this additional parking structure in midport to go vertical so that we can continue to redeploy the the limited land that we have for the right purpose and we don't think that a flat lot which is what we did with the 852 additional spaces during this summer we don't think a flat lot is is is the way to go

SPEAKER_0752:20

right we know we need to be vertical so i want to follow this because to me you're giving me and i know this predates your arrival here but somehow or another i'm missing something monica that we didn't plan for parking and i know that you make the accommodations during um the peak times at the uh of the cruise ships but it is my understanding you know that there's a critical parking issue here at

SPEAKER_0652:48

the port so yes vice mayor and and you're correct there is a critical parking situation um and you know we we have i think monthly meetings or maybe even more frequent than that yeah more frequent than that with with with the city uh fort lauderdale who and bso and and all of our partners with where are they located to uh for traffic management um because you're right when when we have uh conventions or activity at the convention center um at the same time with some of this cruise activity and and as you know the director here has shared the increase in the cruise activity um and that we keep breaking records that that's contributing to this situation um but but quite frankly we at the time of the um finishing of the convention center um when we were completing that project the expansion and the new hotel we had immediately started planning with new parking structure in the north port area and so so that's another component that we're looking at and that we're already doing the rfp on some because that is critical so so is that parking is this this proposed parking garage is there going to be enough to to cure us or is this just yeah we're that's 1200 spots i believe the new one uh let me see if i want

SPEAKER_0354:19

a north port or the north port yeah that one i don't know the parking space i believe that one is

SPEAKER_0654:26

is me do you have that oh 25 4500 okay so my apologies i think i'm confusing okay so i don't want to belabor this

SPEAKER_0754:35

but what i will do is 4500 spots i don't want to belabor it but maybe we could put this in the um in your parking garage or this is it on your dashboard so we'll do dashboard i mean because i think it's critical okay it's already on there apparently

SPEAKER_0654:52

it's on there yep the dashboard has it yes my team is telling me it's on there tomorrow once yep it's on there it it's on the dashboard they're just showing it to me hold on a second so so you're going to get back

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we're going to get more information uh what's going to happen yeah i will make sure we send something

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out but it is on the dashboard they're telling me okay maybe you guys want to come to my our next

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meeting and explain to uh my board we'll be happy to do that thank you and just for reference yeah

SPEAKER_0855:18

thank you mayor and vice mayor too um you know we obviously connect on our our districts a lot and there was uh issues with 70 street causeways traffic dealing with ubers and so forth and and the harbor area really got up and roll up in arms about parking and issame did a presentation and i think um and we got joe there we had glenn there with everybody there monica probably be a nice thing maybe for issame to to have that presentation given to each of the other commissioners because i think it talks about off-site parking it talks about other venues that they're looking at they were going to make a practice of that over the summer time but it really gives you a really footprint that you can look at when it comes to parking i think it'd be beneficial and and again issame did a fantastic job and she's got that presentation takes 15 minutes well we're happy

SPEAKER_0356:11

to do that we'll bring it to your on board as well vice mayor thank you just for reference the midport parking structure that's in our immediate plans that's in our active pipeline is is notionally around 2 000 additional spaces as part of a future planned uh modernization of terminal 29 uh we envision another parking uh structure uh to to accommodate uh down there so we we do have more in the pipeline but again you know our our um our issue comes around about three weeks during various holiday peaks and we're able to manage and accommodate it uh with with today's volumes and and forecast and and vice mayor we'll

SPEAKER_0656:52

make sure and and commissioner fisher to your point we'll make sure in that presentation that we updated to if it's not already there all of the parking improvements all throughout the port yeah

SPEAKER_0757:02

so that we can know um have those conversations and directly to uh commissioner fisher's responses i was i was in fort lauderdale the city that we just talked about at the time with the bypass and traffic and and those folks over there i know i know um how they feel but we still have to figure out you know where are we going while we're growing um we're anticipating this to be number one one day so we can't just you know um always have the neighbors dictating to us you know what we have to do here with the economic engine we've been very very accommodating both from you um romney rogers who spent a lot of time ben sorenson and others who really took the the lead on this uh to get it done but to hear it you know at the tourism uh council uh it just concerned me so i want to make sure that we pay attention and see what we can do to keep that movement on pace thank

SPEAKER_0457:59

you to echo commissioner dean good job thank you next thank you mayor thanks also good job uh it's nice

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to see first of all i have a lot of confidence in you and your staff and that makes it i think for all

SPEAKER_1158:14

of us it makes it a lot easier but we kind of know it's being run well appreciate that that makes it that makes a big difference glad to see more money coming in than going out that's great uh the one

SPEAKER_0958:24

thing that i have you know as i've as i've been here a while and i've watched the inflation or the increase in the cost of doing the dredging just skyrocket and i i don't know if our reserves keep up with that and can you can you speak to that a little bit because i i i don't see a number on reserves

SPEAKER_1358:46

here i do know what the you know expected costs are on that are they keeping up so the unofficial cost estimate for the dredging project uh was shared by the assistant secretary of the army earlier this year yeah um and that number is uh in in their words you know not realistic so this is where the efforts for the last six months and ongoing are are focused as to how to bring that expensive project back to a an affordable uh state not just for uh the u.s taxpayer but you know for all the project contributors of which broward county port everglades will be one so that is uh i would argue the main driver for for the review that's been happening at the federal level is to get that cost uh to a a reasonable level um the the last official uh cost estimate was at 1.35 billion and at that number we have a clear path forward on how we can afford it i mean what is what is driven that cost is in

SPEAKER_1159:53

environmental impact that's correct by by far and and i wonder and i wonder if on the front end because what they're asking is for us to grow a ton of coral i mean a million coral something like that that it it's not one it's impossible to do it all at once it's something that i think it makes sense that we start growing coral now in some way and i know now that the um chris and jacobs aquatic zone management plan is now in effect as of a month ago um i think fiu just got a million dollar grant toward that of of starting to grow coral i think we should be starting to look at that because that because and maybe utilizing the state park up there as a place to do it it'd be and i know there's people that are looking at that as well but it it only makes sense to get a head start on that and he and you know even regardless of what happens with dredging either way it's good so i i guess i want to see part of our plan start to address that um because you know they're going to be asking us how are you going to do that and we have to have an answer and right now we don't have an answer not not that's satisfactory um any i don't know if you want to speak to that or not but so commissioner i i know

SPEAKER_131:01:21

you know this uh you know there are a lot of what ifs with this project and you know the the true scope of where this ends up you know i know the brower county and port everglades remain steadfast in our position that we we know we need to be and we want to be good environmental stewards right so where's that balance and i think that uncertainty is clouding the ability to move forward with some of these tangible things uh i i know this uh you know pre-project coral growth uh there are some initiatives that are out there and i think there's some good um good partners available to us both in the private sector um and in the education sector right um so we we can put that on our list to to see how how you know we do have discussions uh with them uh high level uh admittedly uh until there's some clarity on what is going to be required because that is a big point of debate as i'm sure

SPEAKER_111:02:14

you can appreciate yeah and i know this doesn't usually fall under port managers the coral stuff but unfortunately it's it's becoming a part that we have to deal with um and and you know rightfully so there used to be an incredible coral reef out there that's diminished considerably um okay so the other part is i the my my first question was are the reserves saying you know up with the inflation i'll let leah brasso handle that or are we or yeah where what's our status i would say that our

SPEAKER_141:02:52

reserves are solid so if you use the gfoa recommendation of either two months operating expenses or two months operating revenues which for us would be about 25 million or 44 million our budgeted operating reserve for fy 27 is about 105 million okay more than exceeded those targets and our capital reserves uh right now we have about 20 million just setting set aside but it's really there and intended for uh cost overruns that might come about when we take items to the board that we would have that money sitting there as an adjustment i guess i thought we had a lot more well we also and

SPEAKER_151:03:27

and i'm thank you uh leah i also want to add i know during the presentation on slide 15 there was a cip that capital improvement oh that's a billion summary it said 100 million dollars for the deepening project right and those are what we're anticipating that would be the reserve amount but it would be over the next couple of years and that's for that deepening project so those are goals of what what reserve what reserves we would need for that particular project so we have a general reserve like leslie described um we have operating reserves and as well as the individual annual um cip uh reserves but then we also have because of this project being so you know important and big and large massive project we have um you know singularly identified this pulled it out of the other reserve

SPEAKER_141:04:15

pots okay but but the only reserve you're saying this well i i i should say that that's the budgeted reserve for 27 but as far as the port's overall fiscal health through the second quarter of this fiscal year we have about 355 million in unrestricted cash and investments that's more like so it's

SPEAKER_151:04:34

well but that's the number that's the number you were expecting so but 20 million didn't quite cut it thank you so so there's a difference obviously between unrestricted cash unrestricted cash and set aside reserves and so it's we get a little complex with the within with the language right but we have more than sufficient um um uh reserves uh at our disposal and again and i guess what my my point is

SPEAKER_111:05:01

when i first started here the the that amount of reserve we had was a i think probably a higher percentage of what the expected cost was now it's getting further and further away from that expected cost and and that that's my concern you know so i guess you know however we can get closer but you bring the only way to do is to bring the cost down a little bit i think we all share that goal that's right okay um the other i think my other the other questions have been answered by others thank you

SPEAKER_121:05:36

okay thank you great presentation um i'll just follow up on this for a minute because i'm a little confused now about this so we have a hundred million dollars that we have listed here that is from

SPEAKER_131:05:48

reserves where where is that from so this this is not the the hundred million is not object appropriation

SPEAKER_141:05:56

yes it's it's future project appropriations we have a blend of of appropriations that have been made in prior years and uh the the future ones that are in the cip okay and we're you're talking about 1.35

SPEAKER_121:06:13

billion dollars so as the last uh approved uh cost estimate from august of i'm going to look at

SPEAKER_131:06:19

david now 2023 august of 2023 that was the project estimated cost uh that is officially approved by the

SPEAKER_101:06:28

federal government yeah david anderton our assistant port director thank you so that cost is the total project cost that's not the that's not the cost share for broward county typically these projects are funded both by the federal government and by the local sponsor so the local sponsor in this case the port broward county is going to be responsible for roughly 35 of that total cost so it's a significantly

SPEAKER_121:07:10

lower number than the total project yeah that was that was going to be my question is what percent is the federal government supposedly responsible could we anticipate would be their percentage because

SPEAKER_131:07:21

otherwise this hundred million is not nearly enough that's right so sorry i didn't understand your question but but david i hope clarified it that yes indeed you know while there are segments of the project where the the cost share is at a higher proportion than what he mentioned the overall blended ends up being about 35 for the local uh sponsor all right thank you um i had another question i

SPEAKER_121:07:44

noticed we you you mentioned um we were going through this about the hotel registration being up how is that being accomplished are you promoting it is it tourist development who who is hearing about the convention center because i know you know that obviously a lot of people are are are staying there

SPEAKER_131:08:03

before or after uh their cruises yeah so with our cruise line partners they were very interested as the omni was being constructed and developed and once opened um there were already discussions that had happened with a few of the partner cruise lines that we have that became partners of the omni hotel and now they package that as part of the bundles that they offer for bookended uh stays associated with uh with the cruise um the exact numbers the omni team i think uh would probably be best positioned to share but but we heard uh numbers for two months this year of 399 and 407 uh guests associated with cruise that stayed at the hotel during those months uh so for them uh you know that's that's a good performance uh based on their overall availability overall room nights available etc etc um so we're happy that they're happy

SPEAKER_121:08:55

yeah great okay good um and i just wondered are we doing anything to entice people not to park when they come for a cruise in other words to is there some incentive or something we could do for to urge people i don't know but i'm just asking the question is i mean you know to promote some other i would say

SPEAKER_131:09:19

if i could answer it this way and it looks like monica's got a comment as well um is we're we're also ensuring that our ride share um service is is improved so a couple things happening is um we're actually improving the connectivity for cellular uh services in the port so that's going to be ongoing here they probably should break ground before the end of the year and that will improve the signal and the coverage for especially during our peak where i'm sure if you've experienced it you're in a high demand area you can't get a signal fast enough to really capture that ride so um that's from sort of the technical uh piece but from also physical on the ground piece we're we're taking some steps to improve the traffic flow and circulation uh related to the ride share pickup and drop-offs so maybe that's the the closest i can give you to to say that we're not necessarily promoting people parking i would say we don't actively promote people to park but it is something that a big portion of of our cruise guests uh require so we we make sure that we've got the availability and the offering

SPEAKER_151:10:25

so and what i was going to add and so you started to hit on the ride share piece but also because of the statistic that joe shared earlier about i believe it was 78 percent of of our cruise clientele are are driving to the port that continues to be one of the things we're trying to address with these additional parking structures but apart from that is also the ride share and education on additionally when we have large events happening at the same time at the convention center when we have these peak demands we have started even have conversations even with the water taxi to promote people that are coming to the convention center for an activity to not drive there and to partner up with you know some other means of transportation to get on site to those locations so we're looking at creative solutions and until there's additional parking those are the things we have to kind of lean on and we do also ensure

SPEAKER_131:11:33

that our our taxi providers are accommodated with some some queuing space as well which you know there's this balance between um you know the space that we have available and then deploying it to improve our guest experience and that's that's what we're focused on um and the last question had to do with the

SPEAKER_121:11:51

shoreline we've been talking about that a lot the shore power i mean so what is the estimate for this

SPEAKER_131:11:57

so shore power the the study uh as referred to uh was uh was approved by uh by the board back in june for for aecom to do the design uh study of this so uh where they are looking is you know where where does it make sense from a cost perspective um and a a ease of deployment perspective to to make shore power available now we have in our cip over the next 10 years uh the potential to do all eight terminals we will look at doing that in phases i think it's it's wise but there also could be future grant opportunities which is an opportunity that you know we need to explore right now there aren't so many that are on the emissions uh side of things or alternative fuels side of things but but for us right now we know there's a certain demand with certain cruise lines and we're going to be targeting a couple of terminals where there's already a solid head start on infrastructure to be able to get that deployed so our rough timeline glenn i don't know if you can can share uh any rough timeline on on maybe

SPEAKER_161:13:06

the first shore power uh being available yeah thanks senator uh so the the timeline now we're they're in the design phase to service two cruise terminals uh the expectation is that the designs will be complete uh in early uh late 27 early 28 we're working with fp and l on uh their their design of their substation which has to be constructed by them to provide the uh the essentially dedicated power so we're looking at 29 now to be in a position for the first uh chips to have that capability it just seems like a very long

SPEAKER_121:13:46

time we've been talking about it and it just you know and i believe miami has shore power i mean any other ports do so i just uh thought maybe since we were in the space already of design we would be

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further along than 29 to just done and um you know part of our our focus with our vendor to simplify is to do this in phases and really target uh that but it does take uh take a village as they say right so fp and l is a big part of those discussions and making sure that we've got uh utility available to support uh the the heavy demand that comes with a cruise ship okay thank you thank you mayor

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just a couple quick items um so the parking is recommended to go from the 20 to 25 at the daily rate correct that's correct i think that's a wise move because you can see the revenue tick up once you do that so i like that um i think you'll also see uh more plans we've talked about parking going back into garages being full and the signage opportunity we can have on 7th street to let people know exactly are we full we're not full i think that's going to be a big play too so look forward that presentation as well lastly um i looked at glenn i guess because he answered this question on the broad sheriff's office law enforcement the eight percent and the five percent with fire rescue you're pretty confident that's going to be the numbers or and what's what has past shown in other words have you been able to on your assumptions every year have you been pretty close

SPEAKER_161:15:24

uh yes commissioner the uh the the the variable is you know as you may or may not be aware when the sheriff came to us with their budget request for fy 27 they actually started with the baseline of what they asked for in fy 26 even though they didn't get it uh so on the fire rescue side their uh initial request was 28 increase and on the law enforcement side it was 23 so we've sat down with them twice good uh there we have one more round to go uh but you know we've made it clear to them well one uh we start from what the final approved budget was for them for fy 26 not whatever they asked for so we are we are working with them uh they have identified uh one of their requests for example was we use a lot of detail uh not just deputies deputies and and csa's consumer service aids during the peak of the cruise season to deal with the traffic so so they've uh i think you've heard at the airport they use overtime for a lot of these things so we use we still use a detail rate so they came to us and asked for an increase to that detail rate rate so we're still working with them on how does that translate into the dollar so i but from my perspective i i think we're we're very close to where we are and where we'll end up uh when it comes to the first budget hearing here in two weeks thank you glenn thank you mayor if i can add something in

SPEAKER_151:17:04

response to that also that i think will be helpful um you know another thing and and vice mayor to your point um the the long-term planning um of the connector uh project um so along with that is also the intermodal center at the airport um i know that a large a lot of those spaces i think there's 7 000 parking spaces at the intermodal center that will be constructed and long term my thought and hope will be that not only will we take cars off the road coming into the port it'll be in conjunction with all of that intermodal center because you know people can come in by light rail um park maybe at the intermodal center and be able to transport into the port without taking more cars into the port so all of these things will be helping um relieve the pressure valve it's still a couple years away obviously but we'll include that also in that presentation for you make a comment i brought up

SPEAKER_181:18:10

the parking issue because it's an issue we all have been working in some form or manner when i got here day one four years ago we talked about this intermodal we talked about these rails we talked about it when i first got in fort lauderdale the rail was killed on day one of a new commission and i don't see an intermodal um system right now being the answer to what we want i know it's long term but we haven't done our environmentals yet to see if we can to see if we can you know get to where we need to go so it wasn't to to stir up anything but it was just to find out where we are with parking because we just invested a lot of um a lot of money and then now i'm getting these softballs about you know this intermodal i haven't heard about intermodal in the last year or so not even our workshops we haven't talked about you know the intermodal system the way we did day one about the the three components and where it was going and what uh beam was doing to north uh you know and the river and it's just a lot of things i mean we it gets hot then it gets cold this parking i'm serious about because of the investment we just made there so i want to make sure i can go back and answer to my board you know what's going on and that's what it's about it's not about you know trying to do to uh dismiss it derail it and i didn't mean that as a pun intended but it's an issue and i i think i'm gonna be here for a while so i want to make sure that we keep it in the forefront and and we tackle it i don't know if we can ever tackle this intermodal thing because it's just too many moving parts all the stuff that's going on in washington dc these federal dollars all i don't know if we can get there but a parking garage i think we can handle right here or parking here might take 25 but we can do it here uh and get it done so that was the whole point yes sir yes sir and we'll be prepared thank you

SPEAKER_191:20:03

thank you mr mayor and i too will say joe great job in the details because that that is where i rely on okay i look at this budget and i'm trying not to compare your budget to any of the other departments and i will name the ones that i would normally look at when i think about your budget and that is the property appraisal budget the difference with those the tax collector the bso and soe all of those are totally different all right because we can't tell them what to do and they can go higher ups to get a resolution with you i think we can talk through it because you will have a different funding source i am saying because should we be questioning what you do and we are asking questions because we are accountable you know we are making the investment also along with you we are supporting the widening and the dredging so we can attract larger ships and all of that so i'm saying sitting here today our vice mayor because of serving on a board a particular board it popped out at him that parking is an area that we needed to discuss in this budget because we made a very significant investment in the convention center and you know and all of those things so we needed to have that discussion and i i'm saying my god that should be part of the discussion when we were planning as to parking and conflict of interest in the different um activities at the same time at the port but we're having those discussion now and we're getting the right answers i think i am feeling some relief that it is not as bad because you guys really thought it through but if the discussion did not come up today we would assume that it was done from vision in time from those period of time but not it's never too late if i may commissioner just i want to clarify for for the board for for all the folks that are

Speaker1:22:25

listening in uh the the port has never had to turn away a cruise gas that was in search of parking

SPEAKER_131:22:31

again we we do have our our peak demand and and it does get um it gets it gets tight i see you're managing it is what i'm trying to say the team is managing it and i will say that you're managing it with with the opening of the expansion of the convention center and the omni hotel i have uh seen some very healthy discussions with multiple parties around how to creatively manage that and redeploy land and i think that this upcoming season uh we'll be able to to enact more of that um so uh you know coming in it it won't always be perfect but as long as we're better and whenever i fly out of miami

SPEAKER_191:23:08

because there's no flights out of fort lauderdale of course i am told to park in hotels i don't know yeah they make arrangements with local hotels or motels for us to access parking i don't know if you were aware so i'm just telling you there's so many creative things well i did get a text from the best

SPEAKER_131:23:29

airport director in the world uh this morning that he would be listening so mark i'm sure you're

SPEAKER_191:23:34

taking note okay and i want to say to glenn i don't know if you're having any plans for retirement every time i hear you speak i said i don't know where we're going with this but no retirement for glenn all right mark all right um let me continue with the details i like you can tell me if i'm just because i'm getting to my fourth year on this body or whatever maybe i'm seeing things or hearing things but for me it's the first time i'm seeing any reference to the foreign trade zone in any report since i've been here it might have been discussed previously but i like what i see and what we are hearing so i wanted to give you kudos for it i can talk tariff to my cities and the value of the the big three whatever you know more understanding of the resources that we have at the port because we never sitting as a mayor or commissioner locally those discussions were never made no reports from anyone about the value of the port airport seaport and putting in general so it's good to have the one-year budget review that bring forth all of this discussion so i can say it's very good let's talk about rights here and how you will use that and the value can you have fixed rates to help you're talking about trying to attract tell folks not to come to the airport there are alternatives to coming to the airport but they're looking want to know would it be fixed rate because we have had those discussion in a chamber meeting because we are hearing from the taxes not the right sure as much but the taxes would that be a flat rate could be a consideration you know what the cost is going to be from the

SPEAKER_131:25:37

airport miami airport to um port lauderdale or to palm beach so i um discussion not familiar exactly how the the airport structure is but i know that in our tariff um it does have a flat fee for for the ride share um on a on a per use basis only for ride shares um so that flat fee is there um but in terms of of the rates that those ride shares then offer to various riders where they're going to or from um i know that varies uh given a multiple uh of variables and factors such as peak travel time traffic considerations any toll roads that need to be going on so i'm not sure that that's something that we can influence but uh but happy to follow up with the discussion just curious because we're

SPEAKER_191:26:28

trying to be creative here i if i park in palm beach and know what it's going to cost me to get a taxi down here and it's a flat rate and it reduces the traffic at your airport i don't know it's just another way of looking at it because i know i park at hotels in miami when i drive down okay let's talk about um the word litigation at the port and colleagues i don't know this just came up what is that is it

SPEAKER_131:27:01

something we can discuss environmental so there are um there are some litigation efforts that are in place uh related to the port everglades deepening and widening project or officially the port everglades navigation improvements project these date back more than 10 years um and are in various states of of stay or or uh or activity um i i think the senator was potentially referring to potential litigation should we start to move forward again with the project which um you know i think is something

SPEAKER_101:27:37

that our team has yeah continues doing us until long after we're all dead for for our team to

SPEAKER_131:27:45

brainstorm and you know try to um play out all those scenarios is uh is a tough task but we we you know we've got some of the the paths forward with the various partners that take some of that into consideration but until there is active um litigation it's it's it's tough to know exactly

Speaker1:28:04

the the right path but we have an overarching strategy that we think is serving us well thus far

SPEAKER_201:28:09

okay let's talk about your banking and your reserves and what is in the bank and the cash flow and all that good stuff that how do you um reflect interest earned in your budget so we can see it how do we spend it who is authorized to how does that flow in the budget and what programs are funded from interest

SPEAKER_251:28:32

only so we do budget a small amount of interest earnings um and then actual interest earnings come in and then they just um all into the general uh the fund the general fund of the port um for spending

SPEAKER_201:28:50

unless they're restricted for some reason but okay by policy and how do we talk about it and see whether or not the 20 year old policy might be adjusted to reflect what's happening today how do we have

SPEAKER_251:29:04

those discussions so we do our investments in accordance with the county's investment policy uh through the finance and administrative services department who who manages our treasury operations

SPEAKER_201:29:17

okay so when do we hear about it and know what it is we're new i'm new here i'd like to know what are some of the projects that are funded from interest only i will just say commissioner that our uh our

SPEAKER_221:29:31

revenues if you will from interest earned uh is far outweighed by our debt service payments that we have on an annual basis as well uh but all that goes into you know the the calculation for uh for how we're going to uh create the different light items in the budget that's been proposed um but i don't know if we need to defer to fasdy for a future discussion or i mean i don't think we are earmarking them for anything

SPEAKER_251:29:55

specific it just offsets um port revenues that would would pay to fund our operations yeah well maybe that

SPEAKER_201:30:05

should be a discussion um colleagues because i think we need to understand how those funds are being used we're always talking about um impact of the port on the broader community right we use roadways we do other things and then we have the foreign trade zones and we have those small businesses that we're nurturing maybe some of those funds can go towards some of those projects but if there's no discussion we don't know what we how we can move to help or small businesses in the foreign trade zones well i know

SPEAKER_221:30:42

that we we have dialogue and partner with our colleagues over at oesbd on on some of their initiatives throughout the community um but happy to continue to have discussions uh where and when

SPEAKER_201:30:53

appropriate yeah so that's my comments for now mr mayor i'm looking forward to no i i i would support your

SPEAKER_241:31:01

item on the interest goes to the mayor's account and so we could spend that on food but i'm giving drew the sweats on his last official meeting totally um i based on that i think we're done uh thank you so much and um enjoy lunch thank you all for your support appreciate it this meeting is adjourned no it's not i'm joking drew you want to just come in and take it over so we can go i don't think lunch is supposed to be brought in within about five minutes we have a tourist lunch for you yeah it's a fly-by-night lunch it goes in and goes out real quick steve what i was hoping in november the motion i want you to make is that um that we should keep the mayor an additional one-year term vice mayor one-year term we should keep the terms as it is for additional year because of the outstanding performances okay let's start guys nan you guys come on let's go let's go we're starting thank you for the presentation uh stacy i guess you're done uh does anyone have any questions

SPEAKER_261:38:02

no questions okay who's next so mayor thank you um we are going to uh give uh jenna lyons from our budget office senior budget analyst uh we'll go over the initial slides and the overview of the uh tourist

SPEAKER_241:38:16

development oh no uh stacy ritter has to do that she's going to do that she's going to tag team

SPEAKER_261:38:21

and she's got slides as well thank you by the way before you start just so you know lunch is coming and we'll when it gets here um we'll grab thank you okay how fast can you talk jenna jenna how fast can you talk sorry stacy's slides are first i'm sorry i flipped it and then then we'll go to jenna

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okay how best can you talk oh so fast let's go so first of all let me thank you for coming to last week's partnership summit mayor it meant a lot to the people in the audience yeah i'm sure there i'm not it now look i don't usually you know give gratuitous compliments what do you want i don't want anything uh i just wanted to let you know that it meant a lot to the people in the partnership summit who don't often get to interact with no charge no charge have some great photographs of you if your staff wants them for your newsletter thank you i didn't know i had a newsletter but or whatever you have for geller's newsletter so um so the first um slide as usual is hotel occupancy as you can see for mostly it follows the pattern it always has we had a big bump um in the summertime this year from may through july because of world cup and ipw um it really helped with the uh summer which as you know is a slower traffic and we expect that next year without these major events which are one time and um non-recurring we'll go back to a more traditional year graph but for now we're going to take what we got um same with uh with hotel average daily rate you know we've been doing this for a long time the graphs pretty much follow the same kind of movement every single year where we peak in the winter time and we get slower and the summer with september being our slowest year and then we start to pick up again it's the same for this year but as you can see um we've had we had again those summer bumps um we had a really there was a really harsh winter up north which we love um the harsher the better and because of that we had a good bump in the winter time too um again next these are forecasts for next year but we don't expect the same kind of um a bump and then you'll see with um the rev par the same kind of graph again it goes the same way year after year month after month with those bumps coming thanks to these major events which are one time and non-recurring um and that that will lead to next year being a bit more problematic than this year has been um in addition we are seeing again more economic uncertainty there's talk in the stock market about an ai bubble much like we have the dot-com bubble and the real estate bubble so next year is a forecast but we are forecasting for next year a more traditional uh tdt revenue collection than we have this year where we expect 134 million dollars in tdt collections which is an absolute blowout record

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for us thank you stacy and now we'll switch over to jenna who will continue thank you we'll keep going

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thank you that did not happen jenna thank you i got nine and a half months left don't get me in

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trouble i had nine and a half months left miss lyons good morning mayor vice mayor commissioners my name is jenna lyons and i'm a senior analyst with the budget office and i'm going to be going over the fy 27 recommended budget for the tourist development tax program the the county currently levies all six pennies that are eligible under state law with the first two pennies being levied in 1980 and the most recent penny being levied in 2018. this graph will show you the tourist development tax revenues going back to fiscal year 08 due to the great recession we saw a 17 decline in revenues from fiscal year 2008 to 2009 it took us three years to rebound and in fiscal year 2012 we exceeded pre-recession levels of tdt after that the revenues incrementally increased up until fiscal year 2018 where we see a more significant increase primarily due to the six penny being levied due to the covet 19 pandemic we did see a 27 percent decline in revenues we were able to rebound and in late fiscal year 21 through fiscal year 23 we saw record levels of tdt revenues through fiscal year 25 the revenue stabilized and in fy 26 we are seeing higher revenues at approximately 135 million dollars this is primarily due to the harsher winter conditions in the northeast as well as those one-time events such as ipw fifa and the ncaa college football for fy 27 recommended we are projecting to go back to those stabilized levels at 126 million dollars in addition to the tdt revenues we also generate revenues at the operations of the convention center we also have other revenues such as interest earning we have the line of credit which is the funding mechanism for the arena agreement and in fiscal year 27 we are budgeting 94.9 million dollars in fund balance which primarily supports reserves and one-time capital items this slide goes into our operating expenditures we have funding allocated for the cbb staff and operating as well as the marketing advertising and promotions budget the fiscal year adopted or fiscal year 26 adopted budget did include one-time supplements for these one-time events there is the 800 000 annual allocation for cultural support the next three lines shows the operating expenses at the convention center again there were some one-time expenditures in fy26 and then we have the 15 million dollar annually for the operating component of the arena agreement down below we have our debt service costs as well as our reserves we have the 29.1 million dollars annually until 2051 for the convention center expansion project as well as its required reserve we also have reserves for cbb as well as convention center which equate to approximately four months of their operations as well as a tdt or reserve for revenue fluctuation to insulate us for possible economic shocks moving on to the capital expenditures we have some funding allocated for the beach projects which i will go into more detail on a later slide there's also annual allocations for maintenance at the convention center as well as their network licensing there is the 1 million annually for the cultural and artistic facilities capital support program which was formerly known as the tdt challenge grant there is the 1 million dollars for the performing arts center improvements the capital side of the arena agreement we have waterproofing scheduled at the west building in 27 and the east building in fy30 and then we have an additional 15.5 million dollars in pago funding for the convention center parking garage project which is still in its planning and design phase and we do anticipate needing additional bond financing to fully fund the project the remaining projects on the slide were previously funded in prior years and are still ongoing moving on to the beach capital program which is primarily supported by an annual 7.4 million dollar transfer of tourist taxes there's also interest earnings as well as fund balance and in the out years of fiscal year 30 and 31 we do have budgeted the expected contributions from the cities of dania beach hollywood and hollandale for their contribution towards the port everglades inlet management plan also known as the sand bypass project this slide shows the appropriations for the beach capital program in the out years we do have funding allocated for the beach hot spot project which provides funding for smaller scale renourishment events this project currently has a balance of 10.3 million dollars available for these projects there is an annual 50 000 allocation for both the sand dune restoration as well as the artificial reef program and there is funding allocated for the port everglades inlet management project which is also called the sand bypass project for future project components including rubble removal the mitigation reef and the future dredging event this slide goes into some of our past speech renourishment projects with the most recent segment two project costing 98 million dollars and the most recent segment three project costing 65.9 million dollars as you can see these projects have increased in cost significantly in the most recent years which moves on to our challenges and needs for the tdt funding as we saw in the previous slides our revenues have been pretty stable with the exception of fiscal year 26 and we do project fy 27 to return to these stabilized levels but we still have costs to cover including the annual debt service costs for the convention center expansion which we will pay until 2051 and with the expansion we do estimate increased operating costs as well as future capital improvements such as the parking garage project and any additional associated potential debt obligations that we will need to fully fund these projects and as i mentioned in the previous slide the beach nourishment projects have seen significant cost increases in an effort to continue to bring tourists to brower county we continue to budget for the marketing advertising and promotions in fiscal year 19 we spent 18.6 million dollars and then through the pandemic we implemented cost saving measures fy 23 through 25 we exceeded our pre-pandemic levels of spending the fy 26 budget did include 4.9 million dollars of one-time supplements for those one-time events and the fy 27 recommended budget of 23.4 million dollars is in alignment with our projection to stabilize and that concludes my presentation i will turn it back over to monica sapiro

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thank you jenna so that concludes the presentation on the tourist development tax um dollar program so if you

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guys have questions we're happy to done next no i'm joking we're going to go around the room we'll start again with commissioner rogers just remember we have four presentations go ahead i'm not the one that loves i know it's usually geller trust me i get it because we all know it's geller yeah thank you okay i'm i'm

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going to take us to page 15 talk about the beach capital appropriations and beach renourishing and can you explain to me um when you speak about artificial reef program right i am need an understanding when you talk about beach hotspot projects trying to understand what it is because right now i'm seeing a lot of artificial synthetic plants around being used and i i'm wondering what are we doing and who approves the changes if you're moving from green and grass and all that healthy stuff to synthetic plants

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and shrubberies who is making those decisions for the county so thank you uh commissioner so um for the beach uh program there's no synthetic materials on the beach side but i'm going to let uh dr jarado answer the questions on this on this portion of the project thank you thank you thank you for the

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question commissioner so and in responding to um county administrator am i clarifying the artificial reef

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investments or the synthetic i i think there's a question on both of those things so if you want to just um talk about the uh both the artificial reef program and then the synthetics on the land to do

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thank you and um and my response uh would also relate i think a bit to some of what commissioner furr raised earlier about the academic partnerships and investments that can take place with uh coral so there um are a number of opportunities to use artificial or we should say um hard substrate like um lime boulders as a substrate for coral outplantings so if the county is able to partner with academic institutions or private institutions to help with those investments to accelerate nursery or uh clipping out plantings that would be part of an artificial reef investment where the county could uh help with that by providing some seed money we also had opportunities to use uh other materials uh that may not be a lime rock but other constructed materials that have rough surfaces and also add to recruitment opportunities for coral so it's about establishing a substrate where corals where corals can recruit and so those are the types of project opportunities that we're trying to facilitate with those funds that would be outside of required regulatory mitigation so supplemental investments where we can partner on the question relating to uh artificial materials uh we do know that there there has been legislation that uh has um basically uh required that local governments do aid or allow for the use of artificial say turf in lieu of a natural landscaping and um we have uh while we can't dictate necessarily uh the the products that are used in those landscape projects if it's not you know local our own local government we are doing and working on materials that will aid outreach about the benefits of utilizing a non-artificial substrate and we would have concerns about the lack of habitat the additional heat um the microplastics that can all be associated with that type of product and we'll be working aggressively on outreach materials to help educate when those decisions are being made okay thank you um miss

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okay we'll continue i am still concerned that yes the state mandates or made it possible for us to use these synthetic plants but we had bond money and it was all about open space green space and all of that and folks invested in that so if they're changing the public gave the money for specific use and now we're changing it and always sees these artificial plants they look beautiful until i touch them right and then you have all of this artificial plant and temperatures that we're not accustomed to so what am i breathing when i go outside to walk and want to feel i think i'm breathing good stuff but i'm breathing in these synthetic plants plants and turfs all around our communities and it's because of economics we are giving away all everything and not thinking about our health so that wasn't coming from me that our community talking who gave that authority so i'm hearing it's the state government and how did we respond considering that we had invested millions of dollars into hoping speaks green speaks and all of that are we making sure that we're getting what we paid for tax dollars provided those funding and a lot of people took advantage of those funding and i would hope that they wouldn't be one of those that are switching the artificial term

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so if i may uh dr horado also so our our county investments are not being utilized in that fashion we're so so so that just to share with you and the board um i think where the question is is where the state maybe has um mandated or preempted um our ability to regulate in certain um uh circumstances and so if i'm not mistaken dr horado you can maybe expand a little bit about um our our role in um uh implementing state mandates and and how we evaluate different projects that come to us

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uh for permitting and when they're using synthetics thank you um yeah i would i would acknowledge that when a project comes in um for a um a particular license and we perform an environmental review we would be obligated to accept an artificial substrate if that was part of what was being put forward so long as the project was still meeting say it's surface water management requirements we wouldn't be able to dictate how the applicant uh landscapes necessarily given that the state requires that we allow artificial turf um but we are working on extensive materials that will um continue to communicate the limitations that are um a result of utilizing artificial substrates as opposed to natural plants we have a very prominent naturescape broward program and and all of the the benefits that come from water management heat reduction habitat creation by not making those transitions plus as i noted the additional concerns about microplastics but if a if a applicant comes in with the project and they're able to meet these other requirements and they're still meeting say you know tree canopy requirements in a community if they so choose to use an artificial product we wouldn't be able to prohibit that

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we're somewhere on every one of those requests so we can look to see whether or not tax dollars was paid for green and open space and if that can be used to say this property does not qualify because we had invested in green space and it wasn't synthetic green looking green it was real life plants that we can breathe fresh air i'm just saying at least those comments should be made

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on those applications thank you thank you dr rado you may want to just stay here in case there's other

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questions mr davis thank you um i i i certainly see a lot of projects um with regards to be tree nourishment that's great my question is what else are we doing around the rest of the county other municipalities are there any capital projects you're working with cities on are there any that would be jennifer sorry i think

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you're looking this way i want to make sure um as it relates to beach renourishment no i'm not asking

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about i'm talking about my policy tourism the tax dollars the tourism development tax so the question is what else are we doing around the county you have capital projects on the beach is there anything else that you're working with municipalities on are they featured in any part of your spending um and if so what are what are what are the projects are you doing anything are there available projects that

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cities can you know participate in are you talking about capital projects commissioner yeah yeah it's

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like you're doing on the beach it's more than a beach right so my question is what else can you do with the

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money so so the pardon right so why don't you why don't you speak into the record sorry good morning

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commissioner so the tourist development taxes are used for a multitude of capital projects and so we do have the convention center maintenance projects they are tdt funded we also have a tourist development challenge grant where the is an opportunity for entities to apply for some funding primarily the majority of them that come to the board through an agenda item are partnerships with cities within the county uh we would have to provide you an updated um follow-up on which ones are currently in queue um and like what what have they been in the past what are you giving grants for so so that so

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this has been um for a number of years the board um uh created this capital challenge grant in the past there's been um a couple of um uh grants given to um i know the museum of discovery and science as well as uh miramar um um the the the arts the cultural uh facility out in miramar um uh lauder hill uh performing arts center was also a recipient of that and which one um yeah that's right um the uh performing arts center also as a recent recipient i believe with the parker um renovation that they did there so they they it's an annual process that um people can uh different entities can come and apply for these challenge grants um the board has historically funded that um i believe at a million dollars a year is that correct okay and then um um and so that's just an annual process when when that challenge grant process annually culminates those recommendations come to the board i believe as jennifer just stated to the county commission with um an agenda item that you guys approve and that discussion goes through i apologize i've got a migraine so i'm struggling through today yeah sure thanks so so if i could get some more

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information on the grants where where they've been dispersed throughout the county and um if there's any

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ongoing projects it's just a one-time grant that's correct they're one-time grants there's um a matching uh provision that is required uh for those grants um and it's for capital infrastructure like improvements to a facility um typically so um we can provide um another update absolutely to the board yeah because

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there are some and maybe there's opportunities because then everybody may have matching um you know i just i just think there should be a better outreach to the rest of the county as far as how the utilization of these dollars can be utilized for them how it reaches them and i think education in that regard is just not happening and you know if you have a pulse on the community you'll feel that a lot of folks feel that the tourists are not invited in their part of town so um i think there needs to be a better um opportunity given to municipalities to participate or to learn more about what is happening in terms of these tourist dollars and how the tourists can actually be included as part of what they have to offer i mean it may be that i don't know for example in west park they may not have a facility or they may be getting a facility but they have some of the best uh jerk chicken with jeff jeff tally you know i just think it just we need to break things down so that people can feel part of the process when we are advertising about tourists coming here that they know the cities need to know and their residents need to know that they're included and they don't feel that it's just all about the beaches and i'm sure not every beach is even included or feels included let me speak about the beach it's generally fort lauderdale but even locally local tourists people from maybe i don't know out west would like to know what is happening in the north of the county so i just think we need to do a better job i need to be educated on it and clearly i'm not much less the residents i know in my district are necessarily not educated either and um i just think we need to do a better job at making sure they feel that their neck of the

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woods is being promoted to tourists as well understood thank you we promote all 31 cities commissioner i would invite you to to talk to your uh to your constituents we need your help with this we are a medium-sized agency and we cannot be everywhere all the time um but we would invite your constituents who have businesses to to contact us at visit waterdale to go on our website there is a partner portal that they can sign up for and they can put all the information directly onto the website if it's restaurants for example or businesses they can do this we have a partnership specialist who can reach out to them give us a list we'll be happy to go out there we have an amazing social media team they go to all four corners of broward county and everything in between to make sure that your districts your your your businesses are given the proper amount of love we can't be everywhere all the time and we do have a social media calendar which is month which is planned out months in advance but we can certainly slot any one of these businesses in um that you that that either they contact us or you contact us we need your help with this part of what we would you know your newsletters would be great for us to get the word out about just going to the website to your businesses and talking about the partner portal we had a great partnership summit last wednesday we had 350 tourism um professionals in the room from everywhere in broward county to talk to them about how you become involved with visit lauderdale and how the tdt dollars that we spend can be utilized all around the county thank you i

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appreciate that and i'll certainly be getting with you or sandy and um kevin and on all that because you know i i would like to be able to promote more and help businesses outside of just the city of fault law that all the downtown area get more involved and get their their their cities out there and it shouldn't be just up to them to be trying to put money aside to promote their cities when we have this uh organization that is there to do that so that folks can feel included thank you just a couple

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comments if i can first of all uh miss lyons very well done i love what our budget department does by bringing in some of the more junior people that works with the different agencies because i think it's great leadership uh technique and i think you did a fantastic job and i just want to thank you for your presentation can you flip to page nine i think it's page nine is that yeah i was very interested in that one because i've been using a lot of ai so i just a i'd the uh visit lauderdale's mission and i i wanted to see what it talks about as far as promoting our region you know and raising tourist dollars and i just cut this chart in half and i kind of made a made a vertical line right around 2016 which is when i started which is now 10 years there's 10 years before it and 10 years after and i think when you when you look at this chart i i think that people can um can have different ideas of how they want to do certain things with raising tourist dollars in our area but we've gone to a new level and a new base of what we have moving forward i mean the first 10 years before i was here we were between you know 40 and 50 million dollars every year as far as revenue generation from the tdt the last 10 years i've been here we've almost tripled and we're now at 135 this year uh in in revenues that are coming in that are used these dollars that are used to fund all these projects no matter how you like them or where you want them or beach renourishment or the penny for the arena operating uh center i think that some of the ideas that we've had now with the tdt have been really good i remember when i served on the board the year that i was mayor they they rolled out a lot of influencer marketing which i think was key because that's all everyone's doing right now and if you look at our base from 23 on we're now at 125 million dollar base i don't think we're going to get to 135 next year um we might i'm i'm sure that stacy you're probably under promising and you'll over deliver although i will say you're going to have a ton of headwinds because of what we had this year as not next year and i just read something that just came out of uh um some of the investment houses in new york they're preparing their tourism agencies and their winter companies because they're thinking that this year may be one of the biggest el nino years they have and it's going to be warm all over the country which i know is not as good for us so i think that the amount of revenue that is coming in now is something that i hope i won't be here in 10 years but i hope when they show this year 10 years from now that that first 10 years our new 125 million dollar base is now doubled um i guess your successor in nine and a half months will be charged with going from 125 130 million to over 200 million and it'll be an interesting one to look back on in a few years to see if they're as successful as that so i think that's important um i think that the the um we you you asked us as a board and we asked you as a tdt agency to let's all put our collective best foot forward when we had that association of all the convention planners that came a few months ago that we did the i i guess ipew um i was there a couple times what a home run um what a what a um a a show off of our destination what i particularly liked is the region that they had with all the different municipalities that were allowed to partner up i saw pompano beach was there i know coral they had different areas that they were allowed to come in and use that that forum to market their own um areas so i thought that was very cool um i continue to uh support what you're doing with sports tourism and the and the marketing that you're doing around the different sporting events um i i mean i love i love what visit lauderdale is doing with pegasus with um a lot of the different things we have here and i'm just hopeful that we can continue on this trajectory because these dollars are funding a lot of important resiliency projects um and i hope that when you're looking for the day in nine and a half months when when we have a new leadership monica you're showing them this type of chart and i won't be the one expecting it because i won't be here but i'm hoping that the people that are here years from now are saying you went from that 60 million dollar base to the 120 million dollar base and now let's go to the next base up there those are my comments

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thank you thank you mr mayor um a series of questions first on the sand bypass that um sorry can't read jennifer had discussed no jenna jenna i can't read from here sorry oh dies um can you give us an update on that my understanding is that they may be stalled the sand bypass may be stalled

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by recent litigation that will be dr harada thank you for the question senator geller um we uh do know that uh you know there is active um uh filing of litigation uh we had received a communication regarding uh the progress of work uh which was uh put on hold um our um teams have been in tight coordination and um we're optimistic that uh will uh there's an appetite for returning to non-dredge work and um we're we're quite hopeful that we'll still see completion of the project in the 2027 time frame which is still consistent with what our original time frame was and we're working in close coordination with all parties to uh to arrive at that and and seem to be moving forward excellent i know commissioner

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fur represents that entire area that would be affected but i used to represent that entire area in the senate and i still have warm feelings towards hallandale hollywood dania beach and i'm hoping that this can be moved forward expeditiously secondly um the uh and this to stacy um i believe that i had seen in the last two days um that there is a discussion of a uh downturn in our here in florida from our visitors from europe and canada as we have managed to offend virtually the entire world with our actions not we florida we the united states um through our beloved president who has managed to offend every country in the world um do you are you anticipating i know you can't give us anything definitive but to what extent are you anticipating a reduction in our foreign visitors um thank you

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senator i will tell you that visit florida the dmo for the entire state just reported um this week that for the second time in both quarters of calendar year 2026 florida tourism has declined um most of of the pundits and experts will tell you that's because international visitors have have declined we are fortunate in that most of our visitation is domestic um we have fewer canadian visitors than other destinations do but when you lose international travelers who stay longer and spend more money and you have to focus more on the domestic traveler you have to basically exponentially increase the number just to get just to stay even that's that is the quandary we find ourselves in and i will tell you commissioner you dean that for ipw we spend six figures on that space on the floor we charge our partners about 1500 including the cities that is something that tdt dollars are being used for to it to assist cities other than fort lauderdale where 90 percent of the tdt is generated but that is something that we do for our partners including cities is charge them a minimal a minimal amount of money because they wouldn't be able to do it on their own and stop that

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i'm sorry he is misbehaving the um all right the um last question i had is two parts on on the tdt first as a little bit of a counterpoint to what mission davis was discussing i'd want to make sure that our attack our tdt tax dollars are really going towards generating more overall tourism and that you're directing them to where they they need to be directed as opposed to i i would be very leery about giving well there's 31 cities in broward so we have to divide whatever giving 31 ways and that would give lazy lake a lot of money that they don't need but 31 or 32 people there um okay the um so i do want to make sure that we're spending the tdt tax dollars appropriately uh for the tourism that they're designed which leads to my last question that i'm on the executive committee legislative committee and others of florida association of counties there is an effort there to broaden to urge the legislature to broaden the use of tdt tax dollars to permit it to be used for things like affordable housing roads etc i have been opposing this because having you and i have both served in the legislature i know that if we broaden that for other areas i believe that the people who pushed for the creation of the tdt the hoteliers restaurant tours etc if they see it going other places i think if they're going to ask to have the tdt repealed basically i would like your opinion so to guide me because i am on all of these committees at fac do you have an opinion on whether we should be keeping the tdt focused uh the way it is now or whether or not it should be expanded the argument being and orlando is leading the charge on this that you need the affordable housing for the workers you need the roads to uh to get to the

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places etc do you have an opinion i got an opinion on everything senator gallo i hope you know that i know um i i i know that first of all that i think i think the only conservative thing about me is how how how we spend tdt dollars we are extremely conservative in how we spend the money and i would encourage you to continue that way well you know after 30 years in public service i'm not we're not going to jeopardize anybody who works at visit lauderdale or anybody on this board or anybody in administration with misuse or unwise spending of tdt we go through a thorough vetting process at visit lauderdale which includes an application and then an independent vetting internally uh separate apart from the application because quite frankly applicants put a lot of things in their applications that for lack of a better word pad them nicely so we do an internal vetting sometimes the tdc will review it if it's not in the budget if it is in the budget the tdc reviews the budget um and we are very judicious in how we spend the money it is not in anybody's interest to get anybody in trouble because of a dollar misspent so we are very cautious about the statute there are criminal penalties in separate statutes for misuse of tdt funds we're not interested in that and we don't think the board is either um secondly as it relates to expansion look 10 of browards residents are employed in tourism everybody in your district has a job thanks to tourism that economic benefit which doesn't just come from sending a tourist to a restaurant but comes from having that restaurant employed because he keeps staying in business and employ people because of tourism is critically important to browards economic health any misdirection any dilution of that tdt hurts communities where tourism is their number one industry we don't want to i mean that's not something so you would like me to continue to oppose the expansion oh there are lots of things i'd like you to do senator geller

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that is but one of many thank you thank you thank you mr mayor stacy um i'll be real quick um you know we're talking it's come up here from the other commissioners about 31 cities and my understanding and correct me if i'm wrong here is that your job the job of your department really is to promote south florida as a destination promote broward county and and what we offer right i'm

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generally speaking yes okay not south florida broward county okay right and so putting the so my district

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is district two coconut creek saying come to coconut creek to me is i'd love people to come to deerfield beach my district come to you know part of pompano or come to uh margate people in minnesota chicago up the east coast you know i think are coming here in correct me if i'm wrong mainly because of the weather right number one and then two other things to do whether it be water or whether it be the everglades or whether it be all the different the arts the the broadway shows i i don't see an advantage in listing the name of a city of our 31 cities when you promote broward county come to south florida you know um i don't see the advantage unless something is really attractive in that city um i don't see how how a city if i'm living in minnesota freezing in the winter i'm living in iowa chicago wherever and i see an advertisement you know come to margate which is one of my cities i one of my cities and so i don't see using the name of of these cities as an enticement but more of you know our beaches you know well fort lauderdale has you know has uh the performing arts center fort lauderdale obviously has the beach like like many of the cities but i i'd like you to just tell me where i'm incorrect or where you know you do this all the time so tell me how you feel about that we we've done a lot of data

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we have a lot of data we've done a tremendous amount of research on why people come here and where they go when they come here 80 of the people come for the beach um we've got eight beach cities all of which are marketed and promoted by visit lauderdale every single one of them there's no question that some of them think they don't uh generate the kind of um um love that they should we we would respectfully disagree and we have the journalists we have the paper to prove it um but 80 of people come for the beach so they come to the beach they stay they they sit on the beach for a day the whole day they get lobster red what do they do when they can't go on the beach day two um or what do they do when it rains which it does not often but occasionally um what do they do our job is to tell people what there is to do yeah that's not okay so but yes but i will tell you they're the best korean fried chicken in broward counties at the cook and the cork and coral springs we will promote the cook and the cork and coral springs over and over because it's got or the best jerk chicken or the best roti which is joys and lauder hill but that's once they're here you're promoting it yes i'm talking

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about when you spend dollars to advertise lauderdale or whatever words you use it you're you're spending dollars to attract people to the weather and the beaches correct primarily because every other

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island that promotes themselves from weather because that's why people come here like right like hawaii i mean it's all it's all the same huh and and as i said 90 of the of the tdt is generated

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on the beach so so it's so putting the name of one of our cities in there that's not lauderdale that's not lauderdale um to me is is like what what's the why why would you do that and i'm talking about once before they get here once they're here i love what you're doing each city has different things that that offer to tourists but i'm talking about the advertising that to get the

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people to travel here well the website which is where we would we would direct many people who are interested who have professed an interest through the google analytics and other analytics they go to our website they'll see things all over the county to do they are not here in broward county they are outside because you get a website doesn't cost money really well um it well we have a website host which costs us money but again the partner portal helps that because we do get assistance from our partners but when there is when there are news when there are stories when influencers come we make it clear to them that if they are posting a story or they are posting a reel they have to say where they are including the city they don't always do that journalists often will take pictures and say they're in fort lauderdale when they're actually in hollywood off on a tangent that's not what i'm

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saying i don't care about anything you're saying right now i'm talking about something specific just to confirm when you spend dollars in other cities and other states to promote broward are you it's

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basically it's promoting come to visit lauderdale we say greater fort lauderdale when we talk about

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it we say greater fort lauderdale thank you i'm done i know anyway i'm sorry you weren't interested in

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anything i just said sorry i i didn't need that thank you okay anyway first of all states i think you've done a great job there um i think the visit lauderdale has blossomed under you really has done a good job and been inclusive in ways it hadn't been so thank you for doing that um with regard to where the appropriations are going i can i can support all of the beach capital approach appropriations i don't know exactly what except for we weren't sure what this port everglades inlet management plan

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what is that is that this is that bypass yeah it is the sand bypass project and then the bypass activities that will occur okay okay that's right i thought i thought that's what it was just a whole other name for it and you know i i know that that we got a lawsuit put up but i i have had the chance to look at what you've been doing and the monitoring i just want to say you guys have been extremely careful to make sure that you're that it's all done right and 25 years of trying to make you know before we do the project to make sure it's good being done right you know i don't think it's a fair you know anybody can throw a lawsuit at you but i i want to write i want to commend the your department for doing what you've been doing and making sure you had one or two times where the alerts came up and that was good and you and you responded well um i do have one the you know i see on the penny tax three places where are we paying off a couple things on on uh where was it i lost the page hold on what let's slide well i lost the page hold on one second i was showing where monies were going maybe 12 keep going

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keep going this one yeah well 12 no that one no nope next uh nope i'm sorry i had it before maybe 11.

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i don't know if it was it was it a table well it was showing that in in 28 and there was a we were we quit paying a couple things off for some of the pennies it looked like and so i guess i'm wondering what

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happened there or am i incorrect in what i'm reading it um commissioner on on this slide here we have the plan five-year program outlook and so some of the items on here that you may be referring to only have a one or two year appropriation um so for example on the required debt service reserve of the 29.1 million that's there in reserve uh for the bond covenants and that becomes the last payment of the debt service and then above that we do have the arena debt service reserve so we do have 5.6 million in fy 27 and we have 5.3 million in fiscal year 28 we do not have any needs paid off right we don't we don't have any needs in the out years for any appropriations for for that okay so are those tied to particular pennies and do we have to and do those yes they they are so there's the the fourth and the fifth penny um so in chapter 125 in state law um we can provide marketing uh advertising and promotions under all six of the pennies but we do have um with a resolution approved by the board of county commissioners the pennies are dedicated on the fourth and the fifth for for debt service uh one is for convention center and arena and one is just for the arena as well as we do have a dedication on the sixth penny um that provides funding for not all the funny but provides a full penny of funding for the expansion debt service on the convention center so what i'm hearing is there's

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some strategy ahead of us yes yes correct and we we did switch um budgetary um in fiscal year 26 to

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where we budget for each of the six pennies and so we did extensive work with the county admin the

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county attorney's office uh the finance department on aligning all the eligible uses under state law and that to to add some more clarity for the board that was also as a result of the arena agreement restructuring of of how remember yeah that's that's tied to that the quote one of the questions i have is

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can can some of the resilience money be used for matching grants for resilience and i and i'm specifically thinking about coral um stuff because of and i and obviously need a nexus for for um for tourism but coral reefs is an easy nexus so how so right now we don't have it in there but i do think this is a year where we have some opportunities um you know we're saying we're seeing what's happening what if i you just did a coral grant and i think there's going to be other ones like that so how do we make sure

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that that's in there so that's um something that i think our team can explore um you're right historically that's not been utilized um for for that purpose but maybe the nexus um tied to these beach projects um and and resilience projects that do have the direct line and nexus to um tourism that is definitely something that we will look at with the help of the attorneys well now now we can anchor it with the manager with the kristen jacobs aquatic zone management plan we couldn't do that before no no that's uh that's a very worthy exploration and we'll talk with the attorneys on this okay and

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then the only other thing is i think we're still missing out a little bit on ecotourism i know this isn't uh and i don't know how to um all when when we we speak of west broward but we we kind of think we forget about real west broward which is like two-thirds of the entire county that is everglades that is you know a place unlike anywhere else in the world but we don't we just have not marketed that very well nor have we asked or done rfps of asking of you know who can take who can monetize it or or or leverage that you know with in numerous ways even though i do know you know out at um everglades hall they they do a good job and buses and buses go over there from the cruise ships just non-stop you

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know right right but that's that's about it i i think you'd be surprised how many people we actually send out there oh no i see tons of buses no no but how many people we actually send out there okay good to uh from from the influencers to the fam trips okay um people love seeing what florida used to look like and it is as someone who's lived here for 52 years i'm always i'm always surprised how much they want to see an alligator up close right um but they do and if they're fascinated by this creature that the airboat goes right over his or her back and but we take a an extraordinary amount of people out there and we spend quite a bit of money marketing both holiday and sawgrass nature um in our campaign that that we launched december 31st there's an entire there are entire vignettes about the everglades because we know how critically important it is to florida's story because then you travel to the beach and you stay at the four seasons and you're like oh my gosh this is what florida was or this is what broward county was and this is what broward county has has evolved to look at and that's i think that's an amazing story to tell that's that's you know that's the only thing i

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think we're i think we're missing out a little bit but i'm glad to hear that that's that's happening a

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little bit more but i think we could probably do more yeah well i think we could always do and you know a little bit more money would be really helpful there you go there you go and and on on

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our website does it is there a um a syncing with the arts calendar on on our like on if you're going to visit visit a lot of is there a syncing up to the to the cultural alliance arts calendar calendar is that your day-to-day what's going on here and we don't sync it but we do list it okay so if i go on

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there yeah but our our web host is separate than than the cultural divisions which is hosted by briar county i don't even know i mean i guess i guess i'm saying it but we do it would make sense to highlight we promote what's going on culturally oh i know i know in broward county on our website yeah but that calendar is is like a look i'll look and see if we could even if we can if that i mean i'm a boomer i don't know whatever i mean this is it's i can take pictures on my camera if that helps

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we will look to see if there's an interface capability yeah because they really do go well together

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and so and that's all thank you and good job okay okay so last time last time a lot of years a lot of years uh way before the legislature um i have just a couple of questions um one is on the budget um the 26 budget is quite a bit more than the 25 and then the 27 and i see it said that there were supplements 4.9 million in supplements there so what what what was that primarily they were the

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one-time uh supplements for ipw those were the appropriations that the board authorized um and i believe i was gonna say two or three fiscal years before in fiscal 23 and so they just came into the workflow if you will the budget flow it goes down back down to that's correct yes those are one time and the same with fifa and the same with um the national championship so those were one-time um approvals by the board and so that's why those were spikes um and uh most of i don't have really a

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lot of other questions about things here i just um i i think you've done an amazing job and um you know i think people really i mean just shows the growth all across the board here whether it's our cruises or whatever it is it's all connected i think so the growth here and uh i'm a little sad about the canada thing because i think it is going to be a little bit of a down slide for us here here

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through no fault of our own yeah and you know we'll continue to market everyone under the sun but you know i also i have an amazing team at visit lauderdale and um they they work extraordinarily hard and are dedicated and committed to marketing and promoting this destination and keeping people employed so i've been very lucky and it's been an honor and a privilege to spend my last um to be

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this the last chapter of a career to go on to your next next chapter yeah yeah in hendersonville county north carolina north carolina right yeah yeah um so i or it's henderson county i don't even know the

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name of the county i'm going to but i do know the city you know the city right so i just holiday park

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everglades holiday park was brought up and um and don is sitting there so who knows we we have made i mean it's such unbelievable strides at everglades holiday park the amount of business that they do uh um the problem is we can't kind of keep up with it with uh the growth of the building that needs to be replaced there and you know we've done a lot of a lot of beautiful things there but there's a lot more to do but but it is amazing because i have been out there many many times and it's just amazing when you actually see how excited and enthusiastic people are about being there and and they do realize that it's a treasure i mean and we're the only ones who have it so i think you know whatever we can do to market it and i think you've done a really there's been tremendous growth in that area um i i i mean certainly all the the cruise ships and so forth but i i love that the the expansion of the the amounts of children that are that go there kids and um but it's uh i mean to me me it's it's like a number one tourist attraction because it there's nothing else like it so but i think we've done a good job we can we can always do more thank you for everything well terriard there

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yes yeah mr thank you so much for everything uh and you talked about your deep bench you know candace has been a part of that and remember candace in the bso days and always was a big fan of her then and and a fan of her now and all those folks that you know work so hard at the cbb saying thank you so much for that i just have two quick comments number one is um when it comes to my colleagues make sure that your cities get engaged with the cbb i know that my d4 pompano rwc fort lardale they all are getting engaged with stacy and stacy's been there to help them guide them through different programs that are available different grants are available uh she's there for instance if they're applying for something and this is not right she'll walk them through it but i think it's up to us to let the cities know that they're there it's not us to light guide them there but let them know that that's available to them and that the the folks are there to help them and it's not just one time it's been multiple times that my cities in d4 has has taken advantage of it and been rewarded for it so just please don't sit back and think that they're going to come to you but you get aggressive and come to them and they'll be happy to help the last thing i want to talk about is beach renourishment and and the uh the sand bypass dr rotto um obviously beach renourishment is very special to me in district four and continuing that that process but the sand bypass has been a really challenge you know 30 years in the making it's here and it's i was saddened to see the lawsuit um and i can tell you that the folks that filed the lawsuit and the communities that spoke up about it i can tell you that dr rotto hours of time and effort to go through it hours of time and effort to tell the people we have the permits we're managing it but the permits are from the state the federal government you know we've done all we can to do what we need to do it's all there and to see it kind of come to a halt is it's kind of sad but keep the faith and it'll be you know we're about 90 percent done i think before this happened but uh thank you for all your efforts too and making it a reality and let's just don't give up let's just muddle through it and and finish the project because it's such a a project needs to be done so now and part of our ecosystem part of the the nourishment of the folks south of the port it's just really so important so keep keep the faith and do what you do and again thank you for everything

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thank you for your support i think that can just please question stacy i know years ago we used to

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be able to share information about major events in cities and you your department would help us to get the hotels to promote the events because they know it was vetted by the council or whomever and we were able to benefit from those that are already here and you know they have good things to say about roward county because they're not just thinking all we do here is the beaches individual cities do have events that's worthy of your visitors participating so i don't know how we get that to get back to that and then i'm still always concerned that when we have a law in place and then we have amended it that we are getting best representation because i honestly don't believe that when the voters voted for that additional penny sales tax all of these amendments or whatever we do to be including hotels convention center different transportation mode that helps um take people all over the county and different places connecting us to everything when we approved that penny sales tax none of those things were part of the discussion because it wasn't envisioned at the time so when the changes come in and then i i don't know if the things that you told me were gonna happen is happening because no one says when we approve the penny sales tax we sold the residents the voters on x y and z are we achieving x y and z that's my question so i will

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let stacy address the first question about the municipalities and then i will take the next question because the next question is actually about the surtax the transportation surtax not the tourist development tax tax but we have that presentation and two more presentations so we'll be able to address it a little bit better but um if you wanted to speak to the municipality conversation

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well we do post um on our website and through social media what's going on in cities um and and but i what we do not directly talk to the hotels about that um but hotels are usually willing to offer packages when there are events coming into town so if there's

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something in particular that i think you missed me a little i'm saying hotels don't know but they sit at a county commission meeting or whatever you call it what those meetings right how can we tourist development council yes tourist development council they don't even know what's happening in other cities to help you to get the message out to the tourist that this city is hosting this awesome event this weekend so maybe that's another choice your tourists would have when they go back home they said i have a had a great time in fort lauderdale not only did i go to the beach but i went to the museum my african-american library or we went to the civic center in miramar because they had some awesome events that's what i'm saying what kind of advocacy do we have sitting at the table oh we

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should oh okay we regularly share with the industry things that are going on in the very in the different cities so that they can promote them to their visitors when they when they check in in their hotels there's always whenever you check into any of the hotels um there'll be a flyer on things to do or

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what's coming this weekend or um i would love to see some of our events i'm not saying it's not being doing okay done but i'm saying thank you who are you promoting thank you thank you okay stacy thank

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you so much thank you thank you dr gerardo thank you miss ritter and team monica who's next so the next presentation is a transportation how many how many more do we how many you have three more three more so we will we will speed it up i think that these two that we had first were the two lengthiest ones

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um so i tried to get the i have a commissioners or two that have to be out of here at four so i just

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oh we will be out of here by about that not the way we're going we will be quicker on these last three i i intentionally listed the two first that i thought would take the longest and i think the last three

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will go a lot quicker i don't know what's getting you to talk so little today it's wonderful oh okay

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mr mayor if you're ready we can continue we're ready come on okay do it so so you have seen uh mr zanker before sungeon's anchor our lead program manager for office of budget management and budget so

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i'm going to let sungeon begin hold on we got to just get some order here if my team is uh

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speaking in the back let's keep it down please it's always yeah come on keep it down get down

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all right take it away all right good afternoon uh mayors vice mayor commissioners uh as monica said sungeon's anchor i lead program manager in the office of management and budget sounds weird today all right so um next presentation transportation capital fiscals 27 through 31 this is gas tax funded and it focuses on maintaining the existing road infrastructure in the county so moving on to revenues um as a reminder our peak gas tax revenue we collected at this point now is 21 years ago we nearly got back there in fiscal 23 after the pandemic however what we've been seeing as of late is a weakening in this revenue um in terms of fiscal 26 it seems to be accelerating a bit so when we extrapolate that out to fiscal 27 that amounts to a 7.8 decrease compared to the 26 adopted budget gas tax revenues are generated based on the number of gallons sold so price doesn't directly affect it however some of the factors that would affect consumption are the increase in electric and hybrid vehicles um that you're seeing out there so as manufacturers produce more of those it'll directly affect how much we receive in revenue at the bottom of the slide is the mix of gas tax revenues that are levied two cents are constitutional 12 cents are local option gas taxes a majority of the 12 cents goes to supporting transit operations as well as public works operations like highway bridge maintenance highway construction engineering and traffic engineering so in total the revenues of the program amount to 349 million there are some interest earnings budgeted to support capital pro capital projects within the program in the five years and as these larger projects progress fund balance will be spent down over the five years so the total transportation capital program is 418.7 million dollars on the appropriation side you could see the different categories uh that gas tax supports so there's bridge projects throughout the county that get worked on in the five-year program how in bridge maintenance this is your typical road maintenance like resurfacing guardrail repair drainage traffic engineering maintenance this is going to be your signalization communications equipment to keep those signals running replacing mast arms capital program support this is going to be operating costs that support these capital projects and then as you can see there's the portion supporting transit operations as well as the public works operations i mentioned last slide here's a quick status update from public works and environmental services on the major projects that are underway in transportation capital all right and that concludes uh the presentation so i'll hand it back to uh

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monica thank you sanjan i told you it'd be quick

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my only question is and this is more of a comment maybe i i i'd address this to the county attorney can we do anything locally in broward county about waiving some of the gas tax so that we can lower the price of fuel fuel for our residents i mean it's maybe something you may need to research but i'm just thinking of the idea is there the ability for broward county on a local level to waive some of its gas tax so as um

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mr zucker mentioned that we have there's a portion of the gas tax that are local option gas tax so they're levied by at our level rather than at the state level so we could look into um the process for me but that is a possibility of doing it and we work with the municipalities on those and they're also

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sharing a portion of that so we okay so can you get back to me with some just details on that so i can

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research it a little further yes and we'll provide you the information for what the options are and kind of how you know there's a series of levies it's not just one tax and how that would um go forward

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thank you absolutely provide it to everybody absolutely yeah and well provide it to me first give me a couple days and then provide it to everybody and then at the end provide it to monica commissioner

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dean if i might just to follow up on that real quickly i just want to it's on page two of this presentation um in the last footnote you can you'll see there and that'll be what they research on the legal side that those 12 cents are the local option gas tax it generates close to 59 million dollars of of what you see above but also part of that is at the municipal level so um we'll work with um anika and her team but i just wanted you to to see where that comes from thank you

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no just i mean about this i just want to add one thing we also put what that funds what that money funds already yes ma'am and if you um out so that people know what you know what the trade-off is

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is and and they're right here and that's exactly right so that those funds um fund all of those projects that you see here that over the the course of the five-year cip um the major bridge projects we have here in the county that were responsible how many bridges we have 100 there's 94 bridges including

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three of which includes three of the bascule bridges you see downtown um and including the traffic

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engineering maintenance uh capital um these other capital programs support and transit and public works operations so um it does include all of this and in the capital budget itself um we route we rolled it up here but that's over the course of the five years it's over 400 million dollars of of

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infrastructure projects that that funds yeah do we have a schedule of of maintenance on all those that and is is there like a list of critical you know ones that are in critical shape i think because i

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know we had a couple bridges that were we do have that um i don't have it at my disposal right this minute but we can certainly provide is that where this money that's exactly where this comes yes i think that's important to be able to say these are these things are in line to be done yes not all being

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funded now but there there is a i'm assuming a schedule yep and then they're they're getting taken

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care of one by one and they're ranked based on critical um timing right and and their age and and

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all of the repairs that need to be in rehab but um yes our public works department has all of that and in fact when we go through budget development it's that balance of of what are the available resources for those projects and which projects are most critical and those that rise to the top are

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the ones that you see here funding okay that's all thanks mayor could i piggyback on the bridge issue just real quick um because this there's look they missed three here they list the three that they're

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doing now um but it says eight planned so commissioner um i just want to i want to i want to get a list of

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the eight if i can uh but i understand probably the three are the most critical right now whether it be you know 56th street andrews and third i just want all eight of them if i could and if i might just a

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uh i didn't mean to cut the engine off no and so the distinction you're probably gonna the the

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current year is that what you're doing yeah so the the status update on the three those are just those are just three of the ones that they're working on there's others that are current currently budgeted that they're working on um you know in the in the background because it says there's more than several of the eight planned bridge projects that's what i was so looking forward in what you see on the screen the five-year program this is uh you know planning out those eight new bridge projects that they're gonna come online and this is saving up to do all of those and we'll get you the list of

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those eight yep yep question go ahead yeah um sorry with the 58.9 million that you said 12 cents

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how much of that goes to the cities this is just the county portion so it is all correct

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they get their own so there's uh a few gas taxes that get shared with the cities and they're at

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different proportions um and those amounts are not shown here this is just the county portion

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but if if if we're looking at what commissioner you didn't talked about it wouldn't involve the cities and it would just be it's 50.9 so the gas taxes that are shared with the cities if correct me if

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i'm wrong legal but if those um are no longer uh renewed then the cities would lose their share

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we we have interlocal agreement that we update annually per population um and we distribute to all 31 of the municipalities and they get a percentage share based on population and that was the agreed upon formula that we came to consensus on and so if we do uh forfeit temporarily our county portion it also impacts the cities they will lose their portion as well okay and then um

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in terms of transit what exactly is this funding for transit supports transit operations meaning

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their operating expenses personnel personnel salaries maintenance of buses so in addition to the general fund correct and and in addition to the penny tax that's

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correct and in addition to the portion that goes from uh transportation surtax and what about the county

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transportation trust operations what's that so this is public works operations salaries you know operating expenses for highway bridge maintenance highway construction engineering as well as traffic engineering divisions within public works so basically you need this really to operate if you

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if you do away with this money then what's going to happen with personnel and all of that i'm just it's just not addition it's it's additional to the general fund but it actually helps with the general operations of these departments that's correct okay i just want to make sure i'm clear on that thanks

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no no just to add when you do that i i want to i'd like to see like some just different things if we paused it for a little while if we temporarily and get all the other things that that everyone else is asking about but just like a detailed breakdown of what that entails so that we can present that or take a look at that if we wanted to if the if the support was eventually there as far as giving um our our our residents some reliefs at the pump yeah so we'll prepare you know um i think it really good for

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me everything is a little each of the taxes are a little bit different we'll prepare kind of you know where the allocation is what the statutory allocation is what we do locally if that's a different um thing just all that information that we think would be relevant not not while he's on his

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cruise i mean some like thank you thank you so sunjin's gonna stay he's doing the next presentation

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as well i'll i'll be as efficient as possible mayor uh so the next presentation is the fiscal 27 to 31 recommended surtax program so what we just saw in terms of gas tax maintaining the existing roadway infrastructure uh surtax revenues program both for enhancing the roadway infrastructure as well as mobility options such as transit we'll talk more about revenue on a further slide but next we'll talk about the oversight board which met on friday august 14th so this is just a overview of what the oversight board reviewed they reviewed all the 27 proposed projects as well as the proposed five-year plan and approved as eligible everything as presented surtax revenues so as you may recall last year and during fiscal 26 we had to build in the state legislature's um elimination of the business tax lease sorry the business lease tax portion of the surtax so what you see here in the five-year program that's already built in and based on the fiscal 26 forecast we're about right where we thought we would be um so fiscal 27 reflects a one percent increase over the 26 forecast um also programmed in the five-year plan uh is interest earnings and this is a conservative estimate and this is budgeted to support capital program capital projects within the program this is a overview of the program i'll highlight a few areas in total surtax revenue including interest earnings when budgeted at 95 percent total 2.8 billion dollars there's also 1.35 billion program to support a couple projects from federal anticipated you know projected federal state grants for both bcr south as well as the airport seaport connector project and fund balance is projected to be spent down as we progress through these large projects on the appropriation side transit capital is a total of 2.4 billion this includes replacing buses uh infrastructure projects they have as well as in as well as those in this number is oakland park brt is budgeted in fiscal 27 as well as the airport seaport connector project budgeted in fiscal 28 airport seaport connector is estimated estimated to be about 1.5 billion dollars next public works 430.5 million dollars is budgeted in the five-year program we'll talk more about the municipal side in the next slide bcr south is budgeted at 453.2 million dollars in fiscal 27 that number includes a estimated 200 million dollar federal cost share we'll talk more about operating on the next slide and in total you can see how much is budgeted for transit operating all right so last slide a closer look at what's budgeted for operating appropriations map admin and other operating such as public works county attorney remains a small portion of the overall program there's a new program in here the transportation sensor network this monitors and addresses real-time roadway impacts such as flat flooding throughout the county you can see the annual appropriation amounts for that support transit operations when you look at the municipal projects line the fiscal year 27 budget this includes a true up of fiscal 25 actuals as well as cost savings which was worked on with the municipalities with county admin and map admin um per the third the latest third uh amendment and lastly community shuttle this is budgeted based on the actual utilization of the service by the cities and that concludes the presentation i'll hand it back over to monica yeah just really quick i just want to make a note that the

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broward commuter real south uh the 453.2 but it again it talks about assumes federal cost sharing of the 200 million if we don't get the 200 million then we're not able to move forward with it it would have to

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come from the program somewhere else in the program yeah which i if that is the will of the board if

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that's the will of the board obviously we want to continue the project we also want to continue the

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project going north as well thank you mr mayor um one thing we haven't put i know we'll every year we're going to look at different things on on surtax but what i the other day i was driving in miami and and i was had three different waymos around me you know the driverless ones and i think they were starting i guess they're starting to incorporate that into a lot of the first mile last mile that kind of stuff and i guess i'm just wondering have we started to look at that at all they were actually pretty they were they were switching lanes and doing all kinds of stuff those guys so pretty amazing

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next or i'm going to ask corey to come join me up here if i can get corey to come join me so corey the the question was about waymo down in miami and um you want to talk about the

SPEAKER_573:05:56

good afternoon uh everybody hey corey um so we are very excited about the opportunity to introduce autonomous vehicles into our fleet of options for our passengers we have already had a very initial uh an early conversation with the city of sunrise we are building a intermodal center near the sawgrass mills mall which will accommodate our bus rapid transit from oakland park our fixed route service that serves that area an 800 car parking garage and eventually the light rail service that'll go from the airport port seaport convention center connector and with all of that in that area it's a perfect storm for us to bring in autonomous vehicles we've already had a preliminary discussion with the city of sunrise they're excited to be able to be a part of that we are going to be going after a grant to help uh pay for that uh and so fingers crossed everything will work out but it's definitely on the radar and i happen to be sitting on a national um committee for autonomous vehicles okay so would that be

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coming out of surtax yes okay second question all right i'm interested in seeing how you know i was very i was amazed watching this a little it was a little disturbing looking at both sides and nobody driving but it was other than that um the second thing at the last um commission meeting we had brought up the possibility of um working with a school board on um some sinking of the transporting high school students i did a little bit of research i saw there's a number of cities that actually do this and it does to me the part i like best about it it's kind of like a farm team of getting future users um are you are you can you come back and and we don't need to do it now but can you come back with us what

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your thoughts are on it and and how we might be able to do that sure um i'm aware of the conversation that happened at the um at the commission meeting we are looking into seeing what options are available to us we do right now um serve many of the high schools directly with our with our um fixed route service but there's uh some options there i'm familiar with some of them in the in the country as well and they have been to work in cities where they were uh in play so i will bring bringing something back and

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what maybe corey did not share um is the while we're exploring the autonomous vehicles and and that is kind of where it's going in the future um any pilot or any uh you know express implementation of this will come back to the board for adoption we're exploring at this point so that we can bring back options to you all and approval before it's actually deployed or anything like that thank you

SPEAKER_553:08:50

so i was mouthing to you i don't think we ever voted on that correct okay so i have concerns about autonomous vehicles um i don't know you know i've seen them i've been in la a lot and they've been all over los angeles um as they're in miami ready but i mean one is why why is it safer having autonomous versus a driver two how many jobs are we going to be killing because of that you know we're hurting our taxi industry our ubers and lifts and you know brie what's the advantage uh to me i just you know you know i uh i don't get it what why why it's such an event you're on this committee what's the advantage to a tom's vehicle versus a vehicle driven by some taxi driver or somebody well i think the first

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thing i have to say is that it is um we are very much in the developmental stage of the potential for that level of um autonomy for these vehicles they have not been tested to the degree that we would be introducing them here in in the near future but what's the advantage but the advantages are there are some efficiencies that are created by having um the autonomous vehicles um there are um uh also an opportunity to use staff in a different way um not that you would be eliminating staff but that you would be using them in a different uh using them in different ways than what they're currently being used so that's definitely an option um when it's part of a system it makes transportation just a little bit safer because they are following the traffic rules um more so than the average driver does um buses well right now we're just talking about individual vehicles not today which we don't

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the county does not uh we have bus drivers but we don't do we employ any drivers no we don't have

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right now we have been so when we had the transit 2040 discussion um we talked about the transit deserts here in broward county these are places uh sir where we do not have any type of way to move um take big buses into those communities but we do have people that have needs in those communities as well so what we were proposing as part of transit uh 2040 is to have a micro transit solution that would be geofenced to certain areas so people in there would in that area could go from door to door to certain locations but those uh transit those uh micro transit vehicles would connect with our buses and then the buses would

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provide the longer journey all i'm getting at as i sit here and i'm not educated um it sounds to me like it'll take jobs away which is i don't think is an elected official that's uh that we're involved with that maybe i'm wrong i'm just i'm just as i said i'm sitting here uneducated it sounds like more liability i i you know you say it might be less liability i could argue having a driverless car could be more liability than having a driver i don't know i'm uneducated i just um i just uh don't i want to just know when you bring it back i really like to know the advantages to the alternative if we talk to our taxi industry and others about how they feel about that because they're part of our community right i understand sir and so um anyway yeah it wasn't ready for that part of the

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conversation but we will be bringing back information thank you thank you mr mayor corey you and i have met more times than i can count and i just want just want to let everyone else on the commission know my views on these um i find it unlikely that during my lifetime we're going to end up with the light rail that we're talking about fec is simply not going to ever give us permission to put that many uh additional commuter rail cars on the line in order to make commuter rail run we it needs to run frequently and they're just never going to let us add that many cars when they are counting on using it it's a freight line they they've always said freight has to get priority and they're counting on the fall of the communist dictatorship in cuba so i just don't see that ever happening although we will continue to spend many millions of dollars every year on planning for something that will never occur uh in reference to the oakland park uh rapid transit i believe that that's calling for closing of lanes of traffic i will no great perfect i support those as long as they're not closing lanes of traffic as we have discussed um i also back to the light rail you know certainly over the next three years we're never going to see anything joe biden liked trains that means they are anathema to the current occupant of the white house because anything that biden liked must be evil according to him so if if i were the one spending the money and i guess i do have one ninth control over that i would start to de-emphasize the light rail that i don't think is going to happen i think we the apm is great this air automatic people mover at the airport the airport seaport convention center connector these are priorities beyond that i would love to see our transits or tax money go in two areas i'd love to see a vastly improved fleet of buses i think it is borderline criminal that somebody who lives in commissioner rogers a district that works on the beach needs to take two or three hours and of buses to get there i i would love to see a tremendously enhanced and improved bus system which people will take if it's nicer it has to be secure um maybe wi-fi again i know that the security issues are abundant there but i would i think that our buses really are where we should be putting in more money including improved bus stops more bus shelters you can't have people in florida where it's 120 degrees average and it rains every eight minutes there have to be better bus shelters for people um and the second thing i'd put my money in is to overpasses underpasses particularly near the railroad i can't tell you my level of frustration how many times with my office here in downtown lauderdale i get stuck at railroad uh crossings which is by the way why we should move government center to plantation but that's a different issue but if if there are ways of doing either over or underpasses both at the railroad crossings or at 441 and sunrise boulevard the overpass over 441 tremendously improves traffic there that's where i would like to see our traffic surtax money going buses and overpasses underpasses but i know that's not going to happen because i'm only one ninth of the vote but that's really what i think would be a lot more successful thank you definitely no bicycles are okay as long as they don't close lanes of traffic

SPEAKER_543:16:53

just to follow up on the conversation good job sanjan i appreciate it but the autonomous when you say we're looking at that you only mean we as far as broward transit as opposed to what the private sector is doing they're doing we have nothing to do with that correct i know that they've been meeting with all you know different people that's correct that's coming to broward whether whether we like it or not that's correct that is happening okay i just wanted to be clear on that thank you no no

SPEAKER_563:17:24

that is time yes thank you and i would like to take us back to the sidewalks you're talking about transportation but i would like to start feeling safe again on my sidewalk we have these scooters and bigger scooters and large motorbikes all over the sidewalks it's no longer a pedestrian mode of transportation some of our pedestrians don't have to get on the buses as of yet but they need to go back and forth walking and doing all those good things so when i'm looking at revenue and i'm looking at interest earned i think we can discuss some of the things that we can do with the interest earned instead of just doing the same capital projects i identify some pilot programs to see how we can solve having pedestrians competing on our roadways and the bike lanes are not large enough for these speed bikes it's not like a bicycle before a motorbike used to be on the regular roads these fast driving things you only know they're behind you when they're close up right but i think we need to start looking at that that is serious talk about more people talk about safety and talk about the roads how we get around our neighborhoods with folks using bikes speed bikes as well as the bicycles so that dollars we have for interest earned i'm going back there trying to identify some pilot programs to solve that problem then we have planting the right tree in the right places we have planted trees in places wherein it's eroding your roadways the sidewalks it's doing a lot of damage we can use some of that to identify some new projects hear from the communities what they would like to see done that we have a responsibility to take care of and that's our sidewalks and our bike lanes we can make sure there's a change because it needs someone to make sure that happens and that's all i'm supportive of the comments made by my colleagues but i'm saying there are other things if you're in your car you don't see but if you're walking your communities you will see it and so we need to engage those people i thank you thank you commissioner and notice i found the money so i'm not asking for new revenues

SPEAKER_553:19:55

thank you monica we're done don't say anything i have one more oh one more you're out of order sir i have 10 questions i'll defer thank you okay we're done presentation we have one last presentation

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last presentation we will be efficient as well as well thank you sonja myers last presentation you have

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to sit through so um videotape it'll be good sleeping material when you're on your trip our assistant

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director of the office of management and budget that you know and love elijah anderson oh yes

SPEAKER_583:20:32

mr anderson all right all right well good good afternoon mayor vice mayor commissioners uh what

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are we talking about we're talking about general capital so this is the overview of the fiscal year 27

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the 31 general capital program all right so the general capital program as you will all recall it includes funds for the maintenance and construction of our generally funded facilities so this is primarily property taxes so we're using this funding to take care of critical infrastructure such as our public safety and correctional facilities are the equipment that runs our regional communications and technology system our it systems our judicial facilities general government facilities like this building as well as our libraries and of course parks so some of the key assumptions that we use to you know form our recommendations the primary focus is of course maintaining and replacing our tax supported assets and those are currently valued at our tax supported capital assets which are valued at over two billion dollars and the proposed average appropriation over the five-year program is approximately 25.2 million dollars annually so the recurring revenue that funds the general capital program as mentioned earlier it is primarily property taxes and fyi 27 we are expecting that to yield roughly 105.1 million dollars in addition to that we do program interest income that is generated from the fund balance in the background and then there's the sale of surplus equipment which is approximately 225 000 annually in addition to the recurring revenues we do have one-time revenues that includes 5.4 million dollars of fund balance a 35 million dollar transfer from the general fund in fy 27 and then future bonds issued in fy 27 we are proposing 22 million dollars of additional future bonds issued and that's to cover cost increases related to the forensic science center project now we'll get into the appropriation side and first we'll focus on the most significant fy 27 proposed appropriations we've broken into three categories and the first category is public safety and judicial projects so you can see there are a number of projects where we're proposing significant appropriations such as complex improvements at our main judicial complex additional funding for our regional communications and technology system as well as some maintenance and other improvements at various courthouses judicial facilities and public safety facilities like the public safety building on the other side we have general government projects so the most significant appropriation in fy 27 is the additional 52.9 million of pago that we were proposing to put towards the emergency operation and communication center there's also 24 million dollars program for the cultural center and that 22 million dollars i spoke about just a moment ago for the cost increase for the forensic science center that's backed by future bonds issued and then lastly for parks division projects some highlights there include roughly four million dollars for a couple of projects at the central brow regional park but there's also 2.6 for playground replacements and 2.5 million for various maintenance of our regional park system and then lastly this slide at a very high level summarizes the appropriations in the out year out years of the program so this is fiscal year 28 through fiscal year 31 so this includes contributions to more complex improvements at the main judicial complex projects that interact with the broward cherished office including

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the evidence warehouse and the refurbishment of the fleet service center as far as general government projects in the out years we are proposing additional pay go towards the government center east replacement project there is the 80 million dollars for the resiliency plan which is 20 million dollars each year and then for parks division projects we do have a highlight there of 46.7 million dollars programmed for the new parks and recreation headquarters in addition to further playground replacements improvements at the north beach hollywood north beach um park and then we lastly have the funding set aside for just general maintenance and improvements at our general government facilities our parks facilities and our library facilities so with that i will turn it back over to

SPEAKER_613:24:48

monica sapiro let's go around the room it's up yes sir let me start from one end commission rogers davis

SPEAKER_633:24:59

just have a question you mentioned the um the broward cultural center that's the one um where's that one flamingo and 595 when is that due to be completed i mean what stage is it at right now because i haven't

SPEAKER_603:25:14

heard much on that lately yes it's still in the planning design phase and previous prior previous budget years the board's appropriated approximately two million dollars for design so that's the current phase that it's

SPEAKER_633:25:27

in so when is it due to be you know what's the timelines here because i've been here for two years i've heard about it but it doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere i'm going to ask another 10.

SPEAKER_623:25:40

just for me to jump and come up real quick thank you good afternoon it is currently in the sign approaching the end of the design process about 75 percent which means by the end of the year the sign should be completed and that opens the door then the procurement for construction and actual

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construction of the project so what are we talking about when would this be completed 2028 okay well

SPEAKER_643:26:11

that's in the horizon great thanks thank you that's it mr yudin great um please no quick uh please make sure that it's done by 2028 um the um other question i notice that there's no totals on any of these because i think if there were totals we'd all be scared um the just had a quick i don't know how many hundreds of millions of dollars this would total because there are no totals there but i do know that this uh our capital spending plan has always dramatically exceeded our ability to pay for that um how are we going to be dealing with that monica are there some of these higher priorities than others i presume uh can you give us an idea again i would have really appreciated totals in each category total total right so can you just tell us what which of these are the priorities so these are

SPEAKER_623:27:15

what you see here is the summary right so when you look at um the capital budget book itself obviously there's hundreds of projects in there um and so as an example on this slide number eight this is the summary of the five year cip as it relates to those dollars that are spent that our program for general fund basically general capital program um and so certainly can provide a sum a total but it's not the total of all the projects um these are um some of the higher level uh projects um as it relates to uh the priorities that is set by you all we come to you all um on a regular basis when there's um specific project needs we will ask you guys to prioritize as one of the examples is the the government center project that you guys have had many conversations on us the one on the top right that's also not fully funded as you all know this is what is programmed as of today um for those projects it does not necessarily mean that it's the totality of the project that is what exists in the capital program um with general capital program dollars um so if you want to have a conversation about you know all the needs of of the county um for the infrastructure that's a much larger conversation um and you're right it we don't have enough money to fund every single thing um and that's when we come to you all and say here's the amount of resources that are available and i need your priority so that we know where to shift the dollars most recently um uh we you all had a conversation on on general uh the government center and you also told us and gave us feedback to put um general capital dollars into general fund dollars into the eoc emergency operation center um so we did that um with with cash um availability for funding that then would then create us the need to have a conversation with you all about issuing bonds for certain programs or projects and that will be the forensic science center as an example and we will be be coming back to you all at the appropriate time to to um identify if that's the need uh that's the

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the way you'd like to fund those projects in closing i'd like to say that i think it's good that we've been able to pay much of this in cash uh issuing billions of dollars worth of bonds it's the same as taxes except we're just putting off you know we're spending now and having future taxpayers bail off the bonds that the reason why we have the triple a credit rating is because you've been responsible in not doing tons floating tons of bonds and paying as we go i'm just very concerned and as we all are that there are so many hundreds millions or billions actually i think of expenditures uh that we need and i just

SPEAKER_623:30:30

don't see our cash keeping up with that thank you and this is a sliver of it it's not the how we fund all of the program this is just this particular presentation was just about general capital so

SPEAKER_653:30:47

monica haven't heard uh the explanation for why we don't see certain things a couple of years ago we had a legislative update all the house folks from tallahassee came in here yes sir round table we were discussing the juvenile justice um building condition um and there's nothing to date let's just just say that you can bring it back to me later did we include that anywhere from that conversation

SPEAKER_623:31:18

have we gone anywhere with anything i know my team has been working on it i don't have that update today

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but i will get that to you and to the board all right and primo is primo somewhere being worked too and not

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being it primo is being worked on but it will not be part of this presentation it was um really probably more appropriate in the surtax okay conversation that's fine and and thirdly parks and

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wrecks uh the regional park uh has a water facility um area there that has not worked in some years is

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anything in here to uh improve that or make that whole again so what you would love to hear um is i have a briefing i think coming up um with each of the commissioners um and i uh i believe maybe lorette may have uh shared with dennis and might not have gotten to you yet but we toured around with the it's going to be in the current fiscal you're not even there okay just so because it's been down for

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a while and i want to know what we're going to do too because if you have an event there it's a miserable park uh if the families if they're having some type of reunion or activity with kids there's nothing to do there um so i think that feature would be good when we're uh renting out those uh

SPEAKER_623:32:40

public spaces if you will i'm good so thank you sir and i'll get you some more detail on that

SPEAKER_663:32:52

um the only thing i want us to kind of keep in mind is when we think about parks and libraries those are the two things that our citizens use all the time all the other stuff on here they don't they take this you know particularly for people who can't take an expensive vacation or something our parks are their vacation you know on a day-to-day basis and when you go to the library it's those are the people using it on a day-to-day basis so i think we just need to keep that in mind and make

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sure that those stay funded as well as we can okay we were thinking alike so as we often do but mine goes a little further than that and that is to remind everybody that these are the primary recurring source of revenue here are property taxes yep and that parks and libraries are not even included in core services in the amendment so uh we should be you know all thinking about that as we go out and talk about uh educating people about what gets impacted by passage of a property tax and parks and libraries would be right there on the top of the list i'm good mayor microphone sorry you heard me right um

SPEAKER_623:34:21

yes and individual commissioners are you know that we will you have specific questions about an activity that you're planning to engage in you know as you heard at prior meeting please reach out to us but yes and you know the answer in general is that you're able that each commissioner individually you all are have a lot more flexibility than we have on our staff side as an individual i could do what i want right

SPEAKER_613:34:42

yes without county resources privately you can do it publicly we just need to be careful but educating people on facts uh without being right which along the lines of what senator rich said that's permissible privately in certain settings yes but we also ask that because of the stakes here that you coordinate with us to the extent that you have the ability to do so before going out uh and advocating or educating just to make sure that uh commissioner fisher you are good you're even better now you're better than you

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were we're finished this meeting is adjourned thank you thank you very much