information about this program i will offer myself in my office as a resource we can provide you a lot of history and a lot of data it's a it's a pretty complex like i said florida's probably led the nations things to good good people like yourself so this is really important any other questions okay um thank you rachel we we appreciate that i do have three other cards um i think they're going to wave in support if we don't have other questions um cortez wetley right sir you wave in support okay thank you very much terry ford sir health first wave in support okay and then we have uh stephen lord for circles of care today also women support okay very good all right commissioners i think we're done with the questions any other and cards any other discussion on the item before we vote is there a motion on the item okay we have a motion by commissioner goodson we have a second by commissioner altman clerk will call the role commissioner delaney can find a seat it's 1 30 we'll get started this is a space coast transportation planning organization plan governing board will call this meeting to order thursday july 10 2025. please stand and say the pledge with me thank you very much zoe would you call the role please for quorum yes okay atkinson altman allender blake capizzi here cole connor's delaney feltner forrester foy goodson hammer handley joffe johnson kennedy smith young here and i did see you well mr willis we do have a quorum we have 10 all right thank you very much zoe uh anyone wishing to make a comment item not on the agenda should complete a speaker card at the sign in desk for items on the agenda please fill out a speaker card and you will be called upon when that item is discussed comments are limited to three minutes we'll start with reports georgiana thank you madam chair um you have several attachments in your uh agenda package that are informational and for your reading pleasure on page 11 there is a set of policy recommendations to congress and the administration regarding the next surface transportation reauthorization which is scheduled of course for later next year and these recommendations were developed with input from fdot leadership and are from the board of directors of the american association of state highway and transportation officials with what they call ash toe very good information about what the department feels should be priorities in that transportation in the new authorization reauthorization so good reading material there i want to congratulate two of our governing board members who attended the mpoac institute commissioner delaney and council member hammer thank you so much for spending your weekend uh you know attending and learning about all things mpo tpos and so that really does show your leadership and i'm very grateful for that um and so now i would like to ask abby to provide just a quick update on our public outreach uh efforts good afternoon my name is abby hemmenway and i'm the public information and outreach manager for the space coast cpo and i just buckle in for a minute because this report's just a little bit longer than normal we didn't get to see you last month and then we won't see you again until september so lots of great things to cover so before we chat about some upcoming public involvement opportunities for july and august i just wanted to touch on a few wins for our organization and partners in the last few months so up here on this slide you'll see in may in celebration of bike month the tpo hosted a helmet fit training session led by regional coordinator shelby villatoro and we now have 15 new certified helmet fitters in brevard county here three which include our staff members so this hands-on training really equipped participants with the knowledge and skills needed to ensure proper helmet fit and promote bicycle safety in our community also want to give a shout out to council member hanley who also joined us for that fitting as well also in may the tpo and brevard public school celebrated national bike and roll to school day we had 12 enthusiastic communities participate in rolling events and just really a huge round of applause goes out to our law enforcement agencies who rode alongside students kept intersections safe and spirits high so we really appreciate them and then last uh in june our community engagement coordinator coordinator lia neppo joined best foot forward sign waving event at port malabar boulevard northeast and veterans memorial park in palm bay to promote pedestrian safety this crosswalk where they weave signs currently only has a 12 percent driver real yield rate and events like this really raise awareness encourage safer driver behavior and help reduce traffic crashes and fatalities so shout out to the palm bay community and the partners there we have some in the room today from the city who participated in this event and many communities now are working with best foot forward to raise awareness about pedestrian safety also in june georgiana was honored to be the guest speaker at the west melbourne business associations after hours event where she shared how the tpo is planning for a safer smarter and more connected transportation future across brevard last month we also kicked off a two-part aging road user traffic safety series in the city of cape canaveral with some really powerful conversations leah led the first session roll right stroll right focused on helping older adults stay safe and confident whether they're walking biking or driving and we'll be hosting the second session in august being back to the board you know we've talked a lot about communication and collaboration with our fdot partners so recognizing that it really takes a village to share major project efforts and announcements we're continuing to support our partners by posting relevant information on our channels to have a larger reach so here's just a snapshot of some of our shared posts highlighting completed projects and upcoming resurfacings in addition to some of our trending social topics throughout summer and our partner shares of course our community engagement coordinator is continuing to create some designated safety campaigns to raise awareness about trending safety topics so here's a snapshot of what we covered in may and june and a special note we had some really incredible news coverage lately highlighting the tpo's vision zero efforts which really reflects that we're trying to raise awareness about the importance of saving lives on our roadways and i always want to give credit where credit's due here's some more community partner shout outs when it comes to traffic and transportation safety so up in the left hand corner a huge shout out to the city of melbourne for their latest pedestrian safety upgrade on university boulevard at bruce d bug street the improvements includes a raised mid-block crosswalk an rrfb and eight foot wide median for pedestrian refuge and an access road realignment to reduce conflict points many students use this crossing so this was great to see in the community and the upper right hand corner that satellite beach pd they pulled out all the stops to celebrate bike and roll to school day at surfside elementary including a helmet fit event below that indian harbor beach pd partnered with operation best foot forward once again to raise awareness about pedestrian safety down in the middle there that's titusville pd they gifted a bicycle and fit a free helmet to an oak park student in need who will now use this bicycle as their main source of transportation to and from school and lastly there in the corner that's melbourne beach pd getting stealthy and creative with their social media efforts to highlight their speeding enforcement campaign so our law enforcement agencies are doing incredible things and we're so appreciative that they continue to keep safety top of mind for our citizens moving on every june we host our open house in conjunction with the public comment period of the draft list of project priorities and the transportation improvement program that you're going to hear about here shortly and this year's open house the theme was investing in tomorrow's transportation together it focused on how planning for today and assessing our funding today sets us up for success in the future we had more than 50 attendees join us in person in the evening which is a huge win when it comes to public information they engaged in hands-on activities and we had some really meaningful one-on-one conversations we also had some very thoughtful public comments that we received not only in person but also via email and online and so we were really happy with the engagement that we had at this open house we also promoted it on social media community calendars and had some local news coverage by the mayfield minute florida today and be our voice which really showcased community interest so we want to thank our governing board members and our committee members that attended in support of that events okay so now we're going to look forward here's a snapshot of some of our upcoming events that we're supporting and we're hosting what's on the side here is going to look a little bit different about what may be in your packet but a special note our team and partners will be participating in lots of back-to-school activities we're kind of gearing up for back to school leah will also be leading a professional development day for brevard public schools pe teachers focusing on bike bicycle safety resources and georgiana will have a speaking engagement at the tightsville chamber in mid-august of course we're always talking about trending safety topics on social media so looking forward we have lots to promote we're partnering with nitsa to highlight summer safety travel the dangers of speeding and child safety month and then in august the tpo will observe national stop on red week which runs august 3rd through the 9th and stop on red really aims to reduce to educate drivers about the dangers of red light running and to reduce the number and severity of crashes we've created a toolkit for our municipal and law enforcement partners to use and to help educate our community has graphics in there it has some great messaging so that it's really a plug and play for them so we've already sent that to many of our partners and then for the last few years we have been going around the county and trying to work with different municipal partners and law enforcement agencies to do a pop-up event so we've been to many locations throughout brevard county try to spread the love and this year we are going to partner with national coalition for safer roads and the west melbourne police department we're going to take it to the streets to raise awareness about stop on red on friday august 8th we'll be weaving signs at the intersection of evans road hollywood boulevard and us 192 this is a major intersection and so we will be underscoring the importance that stopping on red could save a life we're currently in need of volunteers through wave signs so if that's something that interests you please reach out to leah via email or you can chat more with her today after the meeting and then just to close us out of course we know back to school safety um this is a time of year to gear up that safety is just as important as things on that school list talking to kids about being safe on the roadway so we have a lot of great messaging and graphics plan that we're going to share with our local pios and law enforcement partners over the next few weeks and last but not least finally join the tpo in celebrating national grandparents week at a safety fair full of fun resources and family togetherness we're going to be partnering again with the city of cape canaveral and we'll be also hosting a helmet fit event at this one so registration will be coming soon and last but not least um you know just once again if you can continue to share our messages it really does take a village and as our governing board members you're our best advocates that is the director's report thank you thank you jordan and thank you abby all right next is the technical and citizens advisory committee georgiana the uh on monday the technical and citizens advisory committee uh met and at your place you have a summary of actions the taccac recommended unanimous uh approval of all the action items the draft meeting minutes from may 5th and the attendance record uh are also in the package uh for you so that is the report all right thank you and then the next item sarah crumb uh bicycle pedestrians and trails advisory good afternoon sarah crumb senior transportation planner so the bpac met on june 30th and they approved their previous meeting minutes received presentations on the draft list of project priorities which they recommended approval the advance the draft advanced 2050 long-range transportation plan and then the vision zero annual report just as a highlight of some of the trail projects i know that i've shown some of these numbers previously but we are getting ready to be coming and bringing these reports to you as well so our southern bar trails master plan of the public involvement we had over 50 in-person attendees and then 21 virtual attendees and as far as final presentations go starting in august we are going to be going out to all the municipalities that are within the study area and so starting in malabar um we'll we're even meeting with the indian river county mpo to make sure that we're connecting and collaborating across county lines grant valk area palm bay city council and then of course we'll be oh melbourne tillman and of course our committees and boards so we anticipate bringing that to you in october and then the north marine island pioneer trail is also wrapping up so over 200 attendees and for the in-person 18 with for the virtual and we anticipate to be taking that to our bpac in august and then to you all in september to be further discussed um is with you and all of our committees is due to public concerns and feedback the north maryland pioneer chair will not be moving forward to the next phase at this time and that concludes my airport thank you sarah the next item is the transportation disadvantage local coordinating board terry jordan thank you madam chair good afternoon uh members of the uh the board uh terry jordan with spaceco city transit i'm going to report on the local transportation the transportation disadvantage local coordinating board the meeting was held on may 12th uh items and highlights and actions include uh the coordination evaluation was completed by miss rinden and uh this is a process that is determined by the ctd the community transportation disadvantage board in uh tallahassee using a workbook and the evaluation rule proved that spaceco city transit had no areas of non-compliance for this year also at the meeting we completed annual requirement for the approval of the grievance procedure this item is a item that is done annually it was tabled at a previous quarterly meeting in february to allow recommended uh improvements and items to be added from the membership the updates were completed and approved by the membership and this will be brought to this board uh on the upcoming meeting last but not least tpo staff informed the lcb members that the administration of the meetings will be transitioned from the uh spaceco city transit staff to the tpo staff uh so this will be a seamless transition for the members where they probably won't see any changes happening other than uh the looks of the the documentation and it will have no impact on the members uh the next meeting is scheduled for 10 30 a.m on august 11th at the beer government center uh two items not related to the lcb that i would like to report on or we are finally receiving um once again thanks to our dot and federal partners we're beginning to receive new vehicles so we've received seven new paratransit vehicles recently uh with the expectation of four more to come in the next coming weeks and these replace vehicles that are 13 to 14 years old with 285 plus thousand miles average the useful life of a vehicle is typically five years and a hundred thousand miles so we have kept these vehicles in good repair and finally able to replace them i see chuck nodding thanks again for your support on this uh and lastly we continue to see an increase in our fixed route ridership we're seeing a five percent increase over last year here to their ridership so at this point we are just over 1.27 million riders for the year and we're hoping to eclipse 2 million and for the annual year of 2025 and that completes my report madam chair thank you thank you mr german thank you thank you all right uh sort of department of transportation chuck copernal good afternoon madam chair members of the board chuck copernal with the florida department of transportation so first i'd like to bring up as i have some some project highlights to share the highly anticipated ellis road clearing and growing project will begin next week on tuesday july 15th with an expected completion at the end of this year a list of uh of these other five projects these have been completed since our last meeting in may and also included in your agenda packets as of course the latest construction report giving you more information on other projects so if you have any specific questions on specific projects i can see after the meeting okay the central florida safety summit that is just a project if anybody has been on it we can all all road road down right right down the road holding hands and not even stretch our hands out so i don't know who decided to do that but it's still dangerous and yes i will be complaining about that to the day you know the day you go back to being reasonable about that road it is so narrow that people like i said people worry about it it's been said to me today they got behind somebody and they they saw that trailer going back and forth and they were holding their breath waiting for it to happen what so i'm just gonna complain and i put my put my two cents in there so i hope that hope that it never has an accident on it that anybody that has to be has to deal with it they don't want it to happen but they see it coming okay thank you ma'am for that comment okay so uh the uh central florida safety summit was held on may 9th and it was a big success it was located at the daytona international speedway and the event was well attended by local partners all throughout the district to share in recognizing numerous individuals and organizations who have dedicated their efforts to help us bring us closer to vision slash target zero secretary tyler and laureen bobo of fdot were joined by state representative bill partington and state senator tom wright to express their deepest gratitude with everyone supporting the cause to get everyone home to their loved ones safely one award to note is the palm bay police department they received a public safety award for their work keeping everyone safe on our roadways through enforcement crash response and public interaction and we have some representatives so good job to you palm bay pd and of course what event would be complete without some surprise visitors in this case we were joined by shelley and sheldon of the daytona beach tortugas and code of the fluff a dog deeply dedicated to traffic safety and still working on his driver's license but he's getting close so and a final thought uh we have entered the crucial time of year where awareness is key first of all we have hurricane season that has begun june 1st and will continue until november 30th as residents of an eastern state on the atlantic ocean we will always hope for the best however it's very important that we prepare for the worst so the best time to prepare is now to finalize those plans on whether you're going to stay home or if you have to evacuate and also we're moving into the hottest time of year when we expose ourselves to high temperatures and humidity on hot sunny days while we work and while we play we need to be proactive in taking care of ourselves by staying hydrated taking breaks and getting out of the sun remember you are well within the throes of heat injury when you start to feel the symptoms so do your best to stay ahead of that injury and madam chair that concludes my report all right thank you very much any questions for mr capitol before we go on to the next item all right thank you very much the next item is consent agenda um jordana would you please read the consent agenda along for the record certainly uh 4a the approval of the tpo governing board meeting minutes of may 8 4b approval of committee appointments 4c approval of resolution 26-01 this is our fiscal year 26 transportation disadvantage planning grant this is our annual grant that we coordinate with space coast area transit 4d acknowledge our finance and budget we have our fiscal year 25 operating budget second quarterly report as well as the draft fiscal year 26 operating budget which begins october 1st of this year 4e is approval of resolution 26-02 the fiscal year 25-26 upwp amendment 4f approval of the renewal of the interlocal agreement and the second amendment to our lease agreement with brevard county 4g is approval of the fiscal year 24 community transportation coordinator evaluation excuse me 4h approval of work order 26-20k 25-26 traffic data report and analysis and 4i approval of the permission for the executive director to execute documents for the enhancing crossing safety grant as we are um laura is managing this project and we have been coordinating with the federal railroad administration so they have reached out to us and um we have all the local governments uh working with us so that is moving along very well so a lot of housekeeping items we are requesting approval of all of the action uh consent agenda all right thank you do we have a motion mr olander motion olander is there a second second i'm sorry miss um miss hanley had her name really got it miss hanley name first thank you all right we have a motion and for mr olander a second by miss hanley all those approved signify by saying aye aye thank you very much motion carries uh next item is our action items and this is adoption of fiscal year 2026 list of project priorities all right so you should have a couple items at your place as well as also in your agenda package um in your agenda package you have the list but it i we i recognize that it's fairly small um and so we did provide you an 11 by 17 um you're welcome um and then there are the maps are within the agenda package and then also you have a copy of all of the public comments that we received through the public comment portal um and the response and what staff how staff responded all right so i plan on keeping this rather short and sweet um because we went through the list pretty thoroughly back in may um and so i'm not going to go through every single project today so as a reminder the annual list of project priorities this is a um we are by the state and the feds required to prioritize transportation projects for state and federal funding projects are submitted by our local partners so municipalities that are requesting state and federal funding if you're pursuing local funding you do not have to have your project on the list of project priorities the list project priorities is meant to be performance based and outcome driven and is prioritized based on project readiness and quantitative scores and safety transportation land use resiliency and sustainability innovation and multimodal as well as also can be discretionary discretionarily ranked by our governing board so as far as an update um what has changed since we last met is in may you all discretionally ranked quite a few projects and so to review those changes state road 401 was moved from number five to number two the i-95 interchange at malabar road was moved from number six to number three the state road 528 the eastern portion is now number four and the more western portion is now number five the cape canaveral spaceport its is number six and the regionally significant state roads state road 524 was moved up to number two and so state road 501 dropped to number three for the regionally significant non-state roads babcock street was moved to the conveyor to malabar is moved to number two and obviously as a result the projects below that all moved down so since we met we updated our transportation subcommittee which is all of the staff and from the local municipalities on the changes that occurred at the may governing board meeting we also held our public comment period from may 23rd to june 20th and we had our public open house we did do our public comment period a little bit different this year where online we had a public comment portal and with that we saw we actually saw eight public comments and so that's great we you know definitely appreciate citizens taking an interest in investing time in the list of project priorities so there were some general comments concerning lack of funding bicycle and pedestrian safety there were some specific intersections that they were asking about which i've passed along to the relevant agencies and then there there was comments regarding maintenance and other items that were not relevant to transportation planning or the list of project priorities so as far as the public comments go there was support in the cocoa multimodal station support in the need to widen state road 401 support in the improvements at i-95 and malabar road interchange and also state road 528 widening and so those were the cis lists and then the rest of the list there was support in the need to widen state road 524 concerns regarding the rapid growth in palm bay and the need to widen malabar and babcock support of the san filipo and emerson drive its projects concerns regarding state road 520 causeway and supporting the expansion and winding of saint john's heritage parkway staff feels that you know based on the decisions that you all made back in may as well as also our priority list that we are reflecting you know what we're hearing as the citizens priorities and so with that i would like to request that we adopt the fiscal year 26 list of project priorities we have a motion from miss delaney or is that a question is that a motion motion delaney is there a second second answer miss all right we have a motion from miss delaney we have a second by miss foy all those in favor please signify by saying aye aye those opposed say nay motion carries thank you thank you go to the next item and the next item will be a roll call vote i'm reminding me i'm just say it out loud i'll remind me thank you thank you georgiana yes all right um in may we discussed the draft transportation improvement program but today we need to adopt it and you have this beautiful document here at your place your very own transportation improvement program um there were no changes to projects since the draft uh tip that was sent to you uh and uh for review so developing the list of project priorities in the tip is really one of the most important things that this governing board does every year it really is where the planning meets the money um you have at the at your place the full document and that document also includes not just the projects but an executive summary performance measures that the department of transportation has agreed to um um pursue as well as the tpo all of the requirements that are in the tip that the federal highway administration requires we also have a new tip tool that our consultant developed and we'd like to give you a little quick demo at the very end so just a reminder the the tip lists you know all projects by phase and funding for the next five fiscal years so we're talking about fiscal year 26 through 30 it's not a wish list it is real funding on projects that is consistent with the dot's work program and the projects in the tip really brings our vision to life it's consistent with the with florida's transportation plan which is really the state's vision of a transportation across all modes this is our planning bridge and as you can see the the tip is at the very end of the bridge as far as the timeline is concerned we've worked our way down through the process um we um you know the governor approved the tentative work program in january and we from the tentative work program we developed our transportation improvement program through a download it went through public review we held our open house on june the 11th as abby mentioned and we heard from our citizens on all projects and so now it is ready for final adoption so what are you approving uh 112 projects totaling 1.3 billion dollars and as we mentioned before the tip is split into various categories and modes that we the tpo have the ability to arrange this any way we want to that is something that we can do uh for the public whatever makes it easier for the public to go through these projects um you know the projects you know that add capacity to the roadway there's maintenance and technology driven projects and then we have all of our modal agencies uh as well some of the new projects um that we talked about uh is the full the full funding for the ellis road widening um you know chuck mentioned the clearing and grubbing that is started that we're so happy about but this is this is 92 million dollars within the five-year work program that's for right-of-way some of the right-of-way that still remains in construction even though right away is fully certified i thought you were happy and doing that doing the dance i mean if you've been there if you have to go there at certain hours it's like whoa but you've promised to be done by december the clearing and grubbing yes that i'm not really sure we will find out hello they say now hello predicated on mother nature and actually um in the dot report um chuck has really developed an excellent timeline it it really says completion date so we'll take a look at that and see see what it says i wanted to well my my melbourne causeway situation you guys gave it to me on time so i'm hoping this will be on time i'll do the dance out there for you thank you miss henley so six new resurfacing projects totaling 65 million dollars four new safety and technology driven projects totaling 10.9 million and many more projects but those were the new ones that were in the in the tip so the tip's been open for public comment for 30 days but of course you know we accept bless you we accept you know all comments before and after that period and make sure that we do address them at your place sarah mentioned the project priority public comments but the tip portal citizens were also able to go into the tip portal and put in public comments as well and here are just a few of those public comments um we have answered all of them but you know as you can see you know a lot of the public comments are you know malabar road its uh you know folks very much supported that project we do have full funding on it um and they supported its projects uh in general support for the coco bright line station the widening of babcock southeast was a big one that we hear about more emphasis should be placed on improving public transportation and reducing headways while less emphasis should be placed on car centric projects we've got several comments related uh to that the need to extend washingtonia drive was uh another big one that we hear about a lot to either lake andrew or pineda um the need for more multimodal options there was also a comment about the large amount of funding for spaceport in comparison to the capacity projects in our transportation improvement program so you can look at all of those comments i think it's important for you all to see to see what we're hearing and and know that we are working on it and as sarah mentioned i think we're we're spot on with a lot of the projects that we have on our priority list do you think with the questions that we've had regarding the spaceport it would be a good idea to have the spaceport people come here and do and present i think that is a wonderful idea to have space florida yes i think that is a fantastic idea okay we'll look forward to that coming up very good emotional i'll say it's done we'll make it happen all right and so yes just a quick question i'm looking here at i just happen to notice there's almost 25 million dollars worth of improvements for the turnpike i thought that was a different pot of money why is the 25 million for the turnpike coming out well actually the brevard county has two turnpike projects the turnpike owns state road 528 from industry all the way to 520 right and so those are improvements that the turnpike is making so it's not coming out of district 5 funding but the turnpike is investing in that also state road 407 is that right 407 that's the one this is 407 there are improvements a big resurfacing i believe on state road 407 that is um within the titusville area um just north of like um fortified thank you so so so they are making investments in brevard county um so yes we are asking for approval all right thank you very much we're looking for we have a motion by mr blake and we have a second by miss delaney all those in favor signify by saying aye aye this is a roll call vote i'm sorry okay okay so i'm just gonna call the names of um members that are here we do have two alternates but they will not be voting today um atkinson yes allender yes blake yes capizzi yes cole yes conners yes delaney yes forrester yes foy yes hammer yes hanley yes johnson yes and young yes did i miss anybody besides those alternates okay thank you well thank you and so andrew uh garrison uh our consultant with kittleson associates has developed a new tip tool and we would like to just give you a quick demo on it thank you perfect thank you georgiana as she said i'm andrew garrison and i'll provide a quick demonstration of the new tip application so the goal of this application is to provide a user-friendly way for citizens and elected officials to quickly access project funding information for the specific projects that they're interested in so if you go to the tpo website on the tip drop down page if you scroll down you'll see this interactive tip tool dashboard link if you click on that link this is what you'll you'll go to so you've got a home page and then if you click on the projects to one moment there we go all right so if you click on any of these projects you will see the project information that's listed in any of the tip tables in the actual tip document so you've got kind of the basics of where's the project what kind of project is it who is it managed by that sort of thing and then you also have the funding details so the phase uh where the money is coming from and how much money is allocated in each fiscal year and then we also sum up the phase uh the funding information overall as well as providing information about prior funding amounts and then there is also a map for projects that are actually assigned to a specific location so you can see exactly where that project is i think the most likely use that you'll probably find the most helpful will be a search tool down here so if there's a specific project that you want to find you can search for it right here we've been talking about ellis a lot so if you click on that one right there you see it's going to zoom over to melbourne again you have all that same project information and then you can see there's a lot more phases and funding rows for ellis a lot of right-of-way and construction funding over the next two years and this is where that summation is very helpful to see what all those rows add up to some very big numbers for ellis but you can see prior year costs and then the total project cost you are also able to filter here as well if you wanted to search by type of project or something like that we also do have the same summation chart that's in the tip document so you can see how that money is being spent throughout the whole tip document 100 million or so for highway and bridge capacity projects and so on and then i think the last final thing to note is one important thing to keep in mind about the tip document is that over the summer we actually have two tip documents active at the same time that's just kind of a quirk of state and federal fiscal years being different and so we've needed to have a drop down option for you to select potentially two different tip documents i think most users are probably going to be interested in the one that is most current so i would suggest just kind of selecting to that in most cases but if you ever are getting in and you're not finding the project you think should be there make sure to check if if you're in the wrong fiscal year uh and then from there we also have a reports page where you can download the actual documents as well any questions i don't see any thank you very much or you can just call us and we will get you what you're making perfect i'm looking forward to getting in there and just kind of playing around with that happy to help thank you everyone thank you very much andrew thank you all right next is going to be presentations uh we have three presentations and our goal is still to get us out of here by three o'clock so i ask you to please let the presenter complete their presentation before we start asking them questions and we'll pause after each one the first presentation starts on page 176 and on page 198 is kind of an faq so your question may already have been answered on those pages so with that said welcome nick and thank you very much thank you uh good afternoon nick lepp with hdr here to present the draft uh 2050 cost feasible plan as georgiana mentioned the bridge so the long range plan is actually the beginning of the bridge uh the project priority list helps fill that gap which is the first 10 years of the long range plan cost feasible plan which all goes into the implementation of the transportation improvement program that was just presented in the document so what needs to be included in the plan we need to forecast the people and goods out past 25 years uh identify those mobility needs that support uh people and goods and the growth in the community over that 25 year period we need to prioritize those projects to develop what is a cost feasible plan and ultimately those projects in that cost feasible plan can go across that bridge and move into the transportation improvement program if it's not considered cost feasible it can't really move forward with those federal and state funds because we don't believe that they're out there in the future so here we are today uh this has been a long process going through over the past 18 months uh going through goals and objectives issues opportunities uh the needs development we also incorporated the transit development plan uh adopting that and doing parallel time frames um and then our financial resources to ultimately we're here looking for a draft cost feasible plan to ultimately uh adopt later in september so we presented earlier the goals and objectives to this board also brought the needs list to you uh back in december and then again in uh december of 24 as it took a little bit as we collected all of those needs within the region that things have kind of changed over the past five years and we wanted to make sure we heard everything and we collected everything and then ultimately in may we did the financial resources and we're here to present this draft cost feasible plan of what projects we believe can move forward through 2050 had quite a bit of community engagement um a lot of working group meetings nine working group meetings that consisted of all the stakeholders of your cities of uh technical advisory committee members also uh local freight and modal partners with the airport and the port and the sea uh spaceport uh abby mentioned our public workshop that we just had recently uh where we had a lot of great comment on the draft plan as it's been moving forward and we continue to get a lot of local leadership support and help as we've been crafting this plan over the past 18 months two years so going from that needs to cost feasible list we needed to analyze all those community conditions making sure that we understood where that congestion was happening where the future growth was happening and make sure the plan was in place um to help move forward we got a lot of community engagement we wanted to make sure we were still moving across that bridge in the right direction for those projects going into the tip for implementation develop that needs list which was really adding to you had quite an extensive needs list before it wasn't a recreation it was what's new what's next what more do we need to start doing to absorb that growth and development over the next 25 years we needed to prioritize that needs list and then ultimately we're here with this draft cost feasible plan uh present out to go to the public to see how they feel and make sure we are still going in that right direction uh for the region so a couple things uh that we have to keep considering that these are just for federal and state funds local funds complement the plan if those projects are being developed through developer funding or local funding adding that to the plan helps us know what's going on in the future and could help state and federal funds go towards other priorities a project is only listed as cost feasible fully funded through construction so it will be in the plan and identified as partially constructed or partially funded meaning a design phase may be funded through 2050 but if we don't have construction then it's not considered as cost feasible so it's a better understanding for the public of what is going to be fully completed by 2050 and what we're still working on over that time frame so here's what we started discovering over the course of the plan uh when we developed the last plan the 2045 plan um we had a lot more money than we had this time there's been a little bit of a funding shift a lot more federal funds now available to the tpo as we're looking at this plan for development and a little less state funding that's because their focus has been a lot on the maintenance um and operations of the system and making sure they're maintaining those state statutes and going towards and having a good state of repair there's less money there for roadway capacity in the future or at least forecasted so right now it's a little bit more of a conservative plan as we have actually about 700 million less than was forecasted five years ago so it's a little challenge in developing this plan but it keeps our focus on those priorities and less of a long list of priorities and really keeps us moving towards those right direction for the top priorities so i said within the cost feasible plan it's not like we have one big checkbook with the money at the the end of the day for 2050 we only get them in five-year increments so when i say cost feasible or fiscally constrained i can't spend more money or we can't spend more money than we have available in those five-year increments so sometimes projects need to push out because there isn't enough money available early on first late in the pro in the planning periods so that's where we have to develop this cost feasible plan through that fiscal constraint making sure we don't spend more than we have so this plan itself is actually based on that list of priority projects that you guys went through back in may and reorganized and have just supported right now uh through this meeting so this plan is now a continuation of those priorities making sure we can still move in that right direction over the bridge and finish those projects out there prioritized by this board so here is the draft cost feasible plan excuse me i just want to make sure i'm reading these projects correctly into the record so okay so starting with the sys list we're going to start with some of the fully funded projects so uh the state road 401 is listed as fully funded uh through 2035 and 2040 uh i-95 is also listed as fully funded but actually through 2031 and 2035 528 both segments are listed as fully funded but not until the 2035 and 2040 time period next we have some partially funded projects like the cocoa monthly middle station which is the top it's on the list uh looking for other grant funds so it's not taking away from those other cyst funds but it is just partially funded in the plan again also projects that are partially funded the i-95 segments um going down from malabar 518 the wickham all partially funded uh state road 404 and pineeta causeway has a pd me that is listed as partially funded within the cis plan and also state road 50. now these are all part of the state strategic internal system plans um and we adopt that by reference supporting that state's plan that's developed uh in central office there we go so uh now we're going to go on to those regionally significant roads so following down your priority list as we started to fund those first you had the fisk uh 519 road funded as fully funded state road 524 from london to industry is listed as fully funded 501 clear lake is fully funded state road a1a is also fully funded using state and federal funding us1 at viera boulevard and then state road 518 on galley is fully funded partially funded so the other sections of 524 were only partially funded uh through right-of-way and construction funding is still needed including the roundabouts the state road 405 south street is partially funded still needing right-of-way and construction and then 514 malabar road uh still requiring right-of-way and construction we also have the two segments of uh i mean seven of babcock uh that is fully funded um from con air all the way to malabar road and then mintum is fully funded uh palm bay to 192 partially funded so then the other sections of malabar and babcock road became partially funded based on the funding that we had available um still requiring some construction funds and some right-of-way needed on babcock and then we were able to get the pd and e for washingtonia extension as georgiana mentioned that was an important project coming out of the tip comments and the norfolk parkway is included in there since the study is ongoing just to anticipate what's going to come after the study and to move that forward and be consistent with the plan we also have those developer funded projects to make sure we're complementing the plan and they're not left out to understand that traffic flow so uh spyglass hill extension stadium parkway and williamson boulevard are all part of the development funded projects that should be in place by the horizon of 2050 and then we have some other projects that are seeking additional separate state funds uh not really eligible federal funds those would be hollywood and wickham looking for some of those state grants to help support the construction and finish off and we have those in there for planning consistency moving forward if those funds become available and then also so included in the plan um though it was not just doom and gloom of 700 million dollars left we wanted to make sure that we still had some opportunity to advance some of those smaller projects so we boxed some funds using the federal transportation alternative funds that come to the tpo we've set those aside to help advance those complete street and vision zero efforts that are going on uh underway for the tpo and can be there for the call for projects for annual prioritization within that list of projects you know that comes forward to you every year if there are those opportunities also for some complete street and vision zero say if there's a smaller project and you wanted it goes with this gives those opportunities for those box funds for the tpo and the board to decide to add those additional funds maybe to a project to help support some of those efforts there's not enough for a complete project but there's enough to help support a project that's already in the tip and kind of moving forward where you can do some enhancements so we did that for the intelligent transportation systems master plan the vision zero master plan and really to help implement this plan and some smaller projects within complete streets and we're also looking for those sun trail programs to help advance the the trails list within the region also included are the transit projects as i mentioned we did the transit development plan in parallel of the long range plan to make sure that we were looking at those projects in the same horizon year for planning purposes so within that we also have the transfer center and then uh also the operations and maintenance uh for uh space coast area transit so here's a couple common questions that we got you know can a project be moved up right now if it's funded in say 2045 2050 how can we move it up well we would need additional funding in one of those previous five-year blocks because there isn't enough money in that period so that project had to either move out to an outer year or wasn't able to be funded at all who's responsible for programming ultimately it's the department of transportation the space coast tpo provides that priority list which goes into the work program development but then comes over back to you all for adoption into the transportation improvement program so the list of priority projects is really that mechanism to help get those projects into the transportation improvement program and have dot program uh what if more funding becomes available well great i hope so then we can start moving these projects forward even if not faster or add a couple of those needs that we were not able to fund um where's my project if i don't see it on the draft cost feasible list could be part of those one billion dollars of needs that we were unable to fund with state and federal funding doesn't mean it's not a priority it's just not funding that we have available for state and federal funds to make that project into this list it could be in a local list or something else if it's a sooner priority and then uh how is public input considered uh we've had extensive public input throughout the 18 months um through the workshops and actually through you all has helped craft that uh priority list that helped develop this draft cost feasible plan supporting the direction of the board and then the public of moving in that right direction over the bridge hopefully getting these projects for implementation into the tip and with that i'll pause and see if if there are any other questions mr forrester well i'm showing some numbers like projects that are fully funded for the 2030 to 35 time frame how is that where is that money that money is not in the bank if it's in the bank why don't we do it now that's it and if it's not in the bank how can you call it fully funded because you just showed the slide that showed that they cut 750 million dollars out of the funding so figure me that one out so we are anticipating that based on the revenues that we believe are available through every year through the um update of the state budget and then the transportation infrastructure bill as that will be updated they have forecasted what funds come out now they are less than what was probably before so every couple years the state does a revenue forecast because for transportation planning we need to make sure that we have aligned these projects and phases out past just the five years of the transportation improvement program because they take 20 to 25 years to get done so though we know the money's not in the bank it's reasonably expected that it will be there so for example through the infrastructure uh investment jobs act that we have the funding for the federal funds right now the state ended up sending back the carbon reduction funds so we did not include those in this plan because those funds we don't believe will be reasonably there in five years so we didn't overestimate the funding available we actually were very conservative so this draft cost feasible list is very conservative with the funds that we believe will be out there five years 10 15 years from now but can still move these projects forward to make sure that as we fund say the design phase and the tip but that funding will be there in a couple years to make sure that you have the construction or the right of way down the road so it's not in the bank it's not programmed but it's planned so we plan on having that funding mr kapisi mr kapisi hi uh unfortunately i wasn't able to to be here for the the fund meeting in may um i would love to join in the in the yelling match but um there's not a whole lot of stuff in here for coco beach obviously um but i want to put something on somebody's or everybody's radar is coco beach is between first street south and um the pier is probably arguably one of the most pedestrian traveled roads in all of the state and probably the most pedestrian traveled road in brevard county um we have a serious issue we have a lot of people traveling that road um and very small three foot um bike paths and probably four foot sidewalks my my concern is um we we need to widen our bike paths and our sidewalks i know that that it's not really in the plan here but i want to put on everybody's radar that it's something this is a serious safety concern because coco beach is now starting to think about implementing uh pushing these electric bikes and stuff like that on the side of the road where you're going to put 13 year old 10 year old kids on the side of the road where people are going 45 miles an hour on their 15 mile an hour electric bikes with cars passing them at two feet away um what i would like to see everybody to consider in future is um putting funding aside for widening the bike paths in coco beach from first street south to um the pier and possibly widening uh the sidewalks i'd like to see about eight feet for safety and uh curbing on a1a to keep to keep it to where we can edge those those curves because the three foot um bike paths on the side of the road are are now a foot and a half two feet because the the grass grows up through it and passed it we have no curbing to to be able to edge to try to keep that out so i would like everybody to try to think about supporting um funding for for bicycle safety and pedestrian safety and cocoa beach moving in the future just to if i can answer some of that so as part of this plan we did develop that mechanism for those smaller smaller projects so probably not the whole length of the segment but if you do have some of those spot improvements that's where you can and your your staff could help bring those to the tpo as this call for projects of we have a safety problem here and if it's a project that's developed then it could start moving in but knowing we do identify that as a need and we can we develop these mechanisms to help support those smaller projects just like that a1a on the north side which was 70 million dollars this is an easier uh few easier bites to to tackle thank you yes mr cole and then mr hammer yes you said you had uh you get money in five-year increments your construction cost estimates i'm sure you add contingencies in there but in the event which we all know we all have cost overruns if that cost over overrun helps that five-year amount of money that you have exceeds it it just drops down into the next five years i thought i was uh i said you you you mentioned you get monies in a five-year increment and the projects within that increment i'm sure when you do the cost estimates you have contingencies in there but let's just say and we know all projects end up having cost overruns if we have a project that's in the bottom of that list when the money's run out is that money transferred to the next five years are additional monies requested so that all the projects could be done doing that five-year increment so it is assumed that the money then will transfer if it's not spent within that five-year block it goes to the next five years to help support other projects so in my question oh my question was in the five year that we have in there if we exceed that budget and we get down to the last project that project drops down into the next year or do we request additional funding it drops into the next year because we have exceeded the funding available so we did not meet fiscal constraint yeah i mean that's how we develop the plan so in some cases as the plan is being developed we may have a residual five million dollars in that five-year block that we transfer to the next five years to make sure we have enough to finish those next phases in the five years so you try to exhaust as much as possible and play with as much as possible so you don't leave money on the table but at the same time we do use inflation factors and contingencies to make sure that we are having a very conservative cost feasible plan that we can implement because it's not great to have a hundred projects on there and we can't get any of them done mr hammer as of right now we currently have legislation for uh gross vehicle weight being raised up to 91 000 pounds it's just something chuck might know a little bit more about we don't have a lot of of our bridges that can accommodate for that weight is that funding going to come with it do you think or is that something that's going to tear into our priorities because i would think a bridge being able to hold what we're putting on it is going to be more important the way the current funding mechanisms are and the way the long-range plan is so those bridge replacements and repairs come out of a separate pot of money for maintenance and operations so a lot of those the funding that i guess you would say used to go into the capacity the department is left side and reserved more for maintaining the system itself for the pavement and bridges but that is not considered part of the capacity funds that we use in developing this long-range plan that's a different set of funding okay thank you nick i was thinking so whether it's a local bridge or a state bridge if it does not have the ability to accept that capacity that size of a vehicle then i guess the department would have to post it they would have to put a posting saying you cannot drive over this bridge because it can't handle it i believe so either that or replace it um which typically would that wouldn't happen until they actually had the funding to be able to do it so that could change travel patterns but if we know if we know from the past things like that don't don't come until it's already done it's damaged that's right so it's usually retro that you see things happen and we pay the price and then the funding starts coming through but i was just hoping it's nothing that gets taken away from this because it really does look and i want to say thank you this is amazing thank you for everything you put through it's it's definitely got a lot into it and even the people that don't understand it understand it so thank you you thank you mr hammer mr delaney commissioner delaney um thank you so much for your presentation it was great um i i was just curious about um if and of course i don't need exact numbers but round about how many people were coming to the public participation events between 15 to 25 i would say depending on um i know the one down in palm bay for the mini one was quite larger um but we had a lot of attendees during the open houses and those were kind of the accumulation of those especially because we had the the tip the list of priority projects and the long range plan so it kind of showed all those core products thank you thank you any other comments before we go to the next presentation all right thank you very very much mr luck that was just have a few more slides if you don't mind i just uh so some of our next steps uh we do have a public comment period uh going on right now uh also we have our virtual uh public event which is on july 31st where you get to hear a little bit more about the whole long range plan so please attend and then our adoption is in september i didn't forget this time uh at lunch and learn here's the uh the qr code for that so please join us for that in the zoom meeting uh it'll be great as we go through uh all of the kind of elements and can answer some of the questions uh so right now we are just going through the tac and cac on monday this is the governing board hope to get some comments back on the draft cost feasible plan and come to you back here in september for adoption so thank you very much thank you all right next presentation is uh joseph fontanelle and this is state road 405 corridor study update thank you for the time as mentioned my name is joseph fontanelle i'm the project development supervisor for the pd and e and planning group for fdot district five um i have two presentations for you the first one is to give an update in preparation for a public meeting for the improvements of state road four or five planning study so we looked at the lrt lrtp the planning so that starts with this process where we plan these projects to look at future improvements and you know the cost of those improvements so we'll call things we'll go over the project overview near-term improvements that we could look at long-term improvements the next step in our open house which is july 30th so like everything we do here at fdot community as a part of our visioning team our pvt as mentioned included space coast tpo city of titusville of course fdot space coast area transit police department school board to name a few we had an opportunity to have these meetings in person at our op center um and mary i saw you there as well so thank you and then the police department was there so we had an opportunity to discuss garner community support or involvement and ask questions on what they want to see in this corridor so we started this with looking at traffic data it all started with empirical data looking at traffic data not just for today but trying to project that data in the future we had a project visioning team number one where we started looking at the problems that were inherent to the to the area the perceived problems and what we can do to improve them we then looked up those problems looked at the input from the community and began developing alternatives which we then presented at the project visioning dean number two we did have that in person we are now again engaging the community that take the space coast tpo we are at the tac and cac board on monday and again we are here today to present this in preparation for a community open house which will be july 30th and then we will have following that meeting as we get public support and or comments to then then project and identify those comments to the project visioning team for pvt number three this planning study moving forward will then lead ourselves if we look at the ultimate widening to a pd and e which we'll talk about here in a second so this area that we studied started just below state road 50 and ended at us1 ultimately we were looking at the ability to widen from two to four lanes and look at the capacity of the road starting with our traffic data in this study we've also recognized and looked at some interim improvements that we might be able to do along the way because this process does take time so as we look at our maintenance resurfacing that we discussed earlier that was discussed earlier what other improvements can we partner with our community to help install why this process takes its place so what are the project goals again we did we wanted to determine the best way to meet current and future demands looking at future developments that are planned on coming in assess the need for roadway widening and look at the environmental and right-of-way impacts that might incur via that widening look at mobility improvements to include pedestrian and bicycle mobility understand the impacts of the roadway improvements that also includes the impacts to the environmental and socio-economic impact to the community and look at the surrounding land use for future growth that land use being for the upcoming developments so the process the planning process the pd and e process the design process right away acquisition process so these all take time but in the interim you know we do look at improving safety and everything that we do so we have identified a number of different improvements that could or may be installed in our maintenance resurfacing throughout the way we will present this at our community event but again the ultimate goal of this study was to look at the widening from two to four lanes along this corridor as mentioned also part of getting a cost feasible plan is looking at what is constructible what is something that we can fund so we looked at segmenting this area looking at the traffic data to support that segmentation so one of the first one of the first segments that could maybe be widened first as we then look at adding and looking at other parts of the project would be from state road 50 to fox lake road and then of course the ultimate widening would be from state road 50 to rock road which would be the entirety of the two lanes section now you will notice the area in yellow on the um the left-hand side that we will improve that area but it is already widened and it is already kind of built out in an urban section so we will have those improvements in the previous slide but again for the widening that is the area identified in the i guess pinkish type color forgive me if i did not use that color right so really as i said this process takes time that is just the nature of it and that time and the effort that we put into planning gives us an accurate idea of what the community wants what the community needs also identifies the financial impacts the environmental impacts and with that we are in the planning process now some of the interim improvements might not require pd and e but could be incorporated into the resurfacing projects that we might have coming in the future we will work with our scoping team after our community event to see what improvements may be needed or wanted the next step if we go to widening because of the environmental right-of-way impacts would then be a pd and e study pd and e as most of us know planning development environment study we will then look at the right-of-way we'll then kind of have a more more comprehensive concept if you will to look at the true impacts but again that would be further defined in design and once we really get the idea of where the geotech what the soil is underneath the roadway the right-of-way lines it then if impacted right-of-way acquisition to construction complete the project back to maintenance and then 20 30 years from now we started all back over again and that's the nature of the the fdot so again we are in the planning process so this is just a precursor i don't have the time to walk through the plans of course being respectful of everybody's time today but we do have the community open house on july 30th where we will be reaching out to the public taking those comments reporting out those comments in a public record report we ask everybody in this room to go there tell your constituents tell your community members tell your neighbors come out because we'd like to hear their input this is your corridor this is where you live and this is our time for us to talk unfortunately i know we have a short time frame here together but we will be here afterwards if you want to talk with us and the team i do have my engineering team here my project manager here so we will take your comments if so needed but again this is statewide 405 i do have another project but we will pause to see if there's any questions any questions yes i just have um two really quick things and one question um i know that for the south end of this road i got a lot of feedback that people were upset about the the spot medians and they're upset they don't want road narrowing so if going forward in that in the planning if that can be taken into consideration and then i was wondering if you knew where and when the july 30th oh yes ma'am it's right there so so um to kind of review your question about the road narrowing that is exactly the purpose of this meeting um and so we can present that um unfortunately i don't have the time to walk through the uh the concepts which would take you know hours in its own own right but we'll be more than happy to talk about it after this and maybe show you at the july 30th and i'd love to be included in the um any any further meetings absolutely thank you and i have my team here we'll take that notes awesome thank you so much any other questions for mr fontanelli all right thank you we'll move on to your next presentation okay all right so that's my contact information ma'am um and anybody else please feel free to reach out to me i'll give you a second to take that down or take a picture of it okay moving forward i see the point all right so my next presentation is a study of the 520 causeway um what we just talked about was a corridor study uh really focusing on capacity improvements operations for the the traveling public um as we project the the future of the the traffic needs in this case 520 is what we reference as a vulnerability study a vulnerability study is intrinsically different because we're looking at the operation of these roadways during adverse weather conditions if you have driven 520 and understand as it connects the islands of course to the beach side it is inundated with water during our hurricane events as well as other heavy rain events so moving quickly here we'll go through the project potential alternatives and next steps so as mentioned a vulnerability study we did have a project visioning team as we had before but again focusing on the operations of this corridor connecting the islands as we have adverse weather looking at the action plan the resilient action plan of the state highway system we're looking at potential flooding storm sea level rises during these events um additional environmental engineering hazards improved evacuation and emergency response understanding that during these hurricane events we need to get people off of the vulnerable areas and this is really the focus of how can we mitigate through these these storm events to get people off safely and then naturally back home when the when the event has passed we have had again project visioning team meetings these were held primarily online but we have reached out to the different the different stakeholders and you can read that you know as well as i can both city of cocos space coast tpo merritt island redevelopment agency you know i personally went and drove the corridor looking at really in a nice sunny day how close that water really is to that causeway so you know seeing it is believing it and i use that you know you utilizers excuse me of this area know fairly well so again what is the limits of this we stem from us one all the way to a1a looking at the causeway itself this is in its early developments and planning again this is a much in order of magnitude a much more um bigger project than i think widening that we just looked at because we're now looking at structures over waterways navigable waterways and the coordination there again is certainly much more intensive as we deal with those waterways major major structures and how do we connect these these needed communities as well as the uh the environmental impacts the park impacts and the amenities that they're in every day i go down there whether the weather is good or not i see uh you know little surfers out there kite surfers and uh you know it is a it is a well-used area the project was to evaluate the resiliency of the corridor and resiliency you know it's a catch trip but really we're looking at how well can it withstand these weather events we've conducted vulnerability assessments and we worked at space coast tpo to develop and our stakeholders mitigating alternatives and we're in the process of looking at that we are going to we are looking at the concepts and we're going to report that out in our next project visioning team as we look at it all our potential alternatives start with a no build really that does not meet the the need of this of this project or the future use of this area but some of the things that we are evaluating again this is in the early process this nothing short of the pd and e is going to be required um in the last one we we do anticipate a pd and e as we go to widening and state road 405 but the short-term improvements may or may not need that but as we look at the improvements of 520 really this is such a you know you know a major project that nothing short of that planning development environment study is going to be needed so these other alternatives will be vetted as we kind of hone in on some of the preferred alternatives through these visioning teams so one of them simply was just to raise the entire roadway and replace the bridges you know and anytime we replace a bridge you know you're looking at you know expensive improvements now what if we just overbuild the road we looked at that you know just put another foot of asphalt probably the cheapest solution but really doesn't withstand a hurricane three and again if you look at that um i'm not here to debate that but really looking at the empirical data even just a foot over really when you look at the uh the events that i don't think would meet the needs of the study but we're fairly honing that in what if we just raised one side of 520 seemingly that would still leave the frontage roads have minimal impact but still replacing those bridges to have a way on and off the island and then really one of the things that people always kind of go back to is what if we just put a bridge along the entire way now that of course if you look at the logistics and dynamics of bridging the entire thing touching down at the islands maintaining the frontage road creating interchanges that is a major project of course an expensive project but again these are things that we're evaluating we're honing in on and creating a a long-range estimate with contingency with unknowns built in so those numbers as we look at it will come out in these meetings and further be vetted during our pd and e process with everything we'll also look at nature-based solutions looking at things that can self-heal and things that can grow these are maybe some of the intermittent solutions that we can do to help that that inundation of the water against this causeway you know we can make oyster reefs we can plant grasses we can put mangroves in these are a number of things that we can add to the shoreline that can maybe help the inundation but over time is it the final solution it will help now but the final solution might be a little bit more robust but any solution that we do come up with we can utilize these nature-based solutions to help kind of add to the the resiliency or add to the uh to to the solution as we move forward so these are also things that we'll look at as before these processes take time we looked at the existing conditions analysis while we focused on while we focused on traffic with our capacity projects with this one we focus on weather conditions anticipated um sea level rises and what the empirical data tells us when we have a hurricane one or hurricane two hurricane three category three i should say and so on and so forth developing alternatives we had some ideas that i just showed you we went to the project visioning team too we kind of got beat up a little bit about that one would work this one wouldn't so we're refining that we're creating an alternatives analysis as we're talking about now presenting this to you so you guys aren't caught on where on where's if somebody contacts you and then present some of the concept that we are currently developing in our project visioning team number three following that we'll report out to our partners with the study completion identifying the next steps if so funded maybe a pd you need uh miss nicole belly who is our project manager was at our monday meeting unfortunately is not here but i am her supervisor i'm also here if you want to take that information down to answer any questions you might have again this is a beginning of a long process a needed process but one of those that will be impactful from from here and into the future are there any questions for mr pontinelli oh yes mr forster several years ago you may remember a number of studies done incorporate some changes to 520 to improve the water flow and therefore the water quality in the banana river yes sir i'm aware of that study um just looking at this this is the first time i've seen this plan and your last solution there seemed to focus on that primarily but i'm thinking also i'm cheap so i'm looking at more effective ways to spend the money and it struck me that a combination of you know the causeway removal longer bridge and uh elevation that you had like i think it was number one yes sir that's one of the things we are looking at is ready to raise the roadway and replace the bridges before there then you might have something worth it i agree with you sir and that that's certainly part of what we're doing with with this process and again this is a first step and then in the pd and e phase we'll certainly try to hone in on that alternative but that's exactly why we're having these meetings and we appreciate that my engineering team here and that's exactly what we're doing in this process so excellent idea and we are we are vetting that sir i'm sure georgiana could provide you with what the tpo's take on it was when we first discussed this yes sir we've been working hand in hand with miss sarah mr jan and and getting this and getting this moving in fact it was at their request that we really started working through this and i want to mention um you know uh sarah um was in charge of the uh the tpo's resiliency master plan and so this was a pro like the number one priority uh in that master plan uh transportation resiliency master plan which was our first you know that we adopted but you bring up a very good point because this is important for 528 you know the plan was uh and the department agreed to bridge the causeway on 528 when they replaced that bridge over the banana river and it was done and then you know if others would be interested in removing the causeway it would open up the flow if 520 was also opened up you you have to have both you can't just do 528 and then think that the flow is going to improve if 520 isn't so it would be be a perfect opportunity if it was possible for someone to to move forward and actually remove that causeway i recall it was like 10 times more effective if you did 522 absolutely yes that's correct thank you mr forrester mr capezi uh i can really appreciate this plan it affects coco beach tremendously um being a lifelong resident over the last you know 40 plus years i've i've seen every storm come through our state for every one of them this absolutely is is a priority every major storm especially uh when we have king tides that that road just in front of the hospital is underwater so i i thank you for that i agree with you um as far as the uh removing and doing the bridges i think even if you didn't do uh 528 um if you look at the proximity of the bridge next to the canals in the downtown region it would it would still be tremendously effective because those canals don't get any flow at all which is some of the the biggest deposits of muck in the entire county because we don't get flow through there so i i would tell you if you did um widen the bridge area maybe dig out some of the the land make the bridge bigger but also add so you don't have to buy more dirt or whatever add to um just do spot islands would be a lot better and for coco beach it would it would improve the the water quality in the canals tremendously so even if you don't get 528 if you look at the proximity from that bridge to the islands it would help a ton thank you sir and i do have my my engineering team here we just we're taking your notes down and okay we'll evaluate it thank you mr hammer so with my time at fema one of our jobs at fema after the hurricane came through and throughout the whole year was to look at empirical data and find things like this why is fema not all over this well we work with our partners and as we get into federal agencies sir we have to go through the nepa documentation which is where the planning development environment comes in so we're getting in front of it we'll work with our federal partners as well but we just can't say help us we're gonna we're gonna help ourselves in partnership with the tpo create those those uh you know nationally recognized and federally recognized documents and then we can start working with our partners so when i was when i was over there there's a um there's a there's a town called slidell i lived over there sir yes sir yeah slidell's mpo went into an emergency meeting and they declared an emergency for one of their evacuation routes why is that not an option sir i can look into that i don't really have a uh an answer for you on this one but i'll certainly look into that and just that slide alone tells me you know we're just waiting for disaster yes sir and i'm gonna back up what mayor said and i agree with you 100 and i've worked all through that area i understand um but we're creating that data so to reach out it's just hey without not just with a handout but with that data yeah well after living after living here for a while i know right there where that hospital is it floods like i mean it can be you know just a regular storm it's underwater now if anything happens in that in a 10 mile radius where does everybody go who's hurt to the flooded area yeah i agree with you i would hear you sir yes sir i would be 100 for for following something on declaring an emergency for that for that area and and noted sir we'll we'll we'll exhaust all all avenues thank you mr hammer miss hanley when was the bridge built originally did ma'am i don't have that data but i can certainly find out i just was curious i thought maybe you knew that went off the top of your head i know a lot but i don't know that one ma'am sorry i think it was the 60s we're all going in there we kind of yeah it was in the 60s madam chair if i may um one of the comments from the um uh citizens advisory committee on monday was um if sorrel funds could be used as a match for for something which i don't want virginia to kill me on that so uh but that was something it really got the attention of some of the ctac and cac members so you know it's going to be very expensive and unless it does come from fema which i think that's a fantastic idea we're going to have to put this project in our long-range plan so when we finish this corridor study and then it moves into pd and e we've got to figure out how we get this funded and it's got to be funded clearly but it certainly starts with this planning and reaching out we're in the first step regarding this information thank you mr hammer would some sort of a levy um on both sides of the bridge kind of help that at all um i i can't speak to that at this point but i do have my engineering team here we'll write that down um and we'll look at everything we can sir thank you very much mr fontanelle zoe were there any public comment cards i think it's not all right um our next meeting is september 11th at 1 30 it's right here any comments for the good of the order before we adjourn no motion to adjourn thank you oh i didn't make the motion i was looking for one the opinions expressed by any member of the public during any period of public comment do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the board of county commissioners of brevard county florida space coast government television or the program sponsor and are solely those of the presenter the board of county commissioners of brevard county florida space coast government television and the program sponsor hereby expressly disclaim any and all responsibility or liability 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