I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, and the liberty of justice for all. This is the Planning and Zoning Board slash local planning agency. It's an advisory board which makes recommendations to the county commissioners who will make the final decisions on all these items. Item H-6 is an LPA item. Items on today's agenda will be heard by the county commission on December 11th, 2025, at 5 p.m. When a motion ends in any kind of a split vote, a roll call vote may be taken to ensure accuracy. As a reminder, each member who makes a motion or a second needs to turn their microphone on so that your voice is on the record. Speakers for public comment on agenda items will be given three minutes. Please spell your last name for the record. At this time, if any board member has had any ex parte communication regarding any application, please disclose so now. I did on H-5 on accident, so what I'll do is I'll abstain from that one. Sir, you don't need to abstain. You just need to make it noted on the record. Understood. I'm going to abstain anyway. Is that allowed? You're not allowed to abstain. I'm not allowed to abstain. Okay, well, I will not abstain. Unless you have a financial interest or some sort of— I don't. No, sir, I don't. Yes, sir. Okay, thanks. As long as you make it noted, that's fine. Sure. Thank you. All right. Hearing that, I bring it back to the board for a motion for the approval of the P&Z Minutes from October 13th, 2025. Mr. Chairman, so moved. Second. Got a motion by Neal, a second by Debbie. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passed unanimously. Yes, sir. Mr. Johns. I just wanted to say that I think—is the staff using a recording to do this, to transcribe it directly from the words that we use? Because there are words in here like um, and some—they were a couple of words. I got them here somewhere. Anyway, I was just curious how that's done. Is it transcribed or we're using AI? And administrative staff are using closed captioning to assist them with typing out the— Because it's picking up every word. Typing out the— Where is it? Okay, item H1. Item H1. Alexis Roel and Rosemary Estevez de Jesus request zoning classification change from BU-1 with a binding development plan to BU-1 with removal of a binding development plan. It's application 25Z-00003 located at tax count number 2004581 in District 1. Sir, are you the applicant? Yes, sir. If you could state your name and address for the record and spell your last name, please, sir. Alexis DeJesus, resided at 1900 Corbett Road, Orlando, Florida, 32826. Last name Jesus D, as in David, as in that word, Jesus, J-E-S-U-S. All right, and a little bit about what you're wanting to do. I would like to remove the binding development plan, the BDP, and leave it at BU-1. Yes, please. While you're right there, is there anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? All right, Mr. Azuz, could you back up there and take a seat? We're going to bring some public. Sir, if you could come up to the podium and state your name and spell your last name and address, please, sir. My name is Ed Scarossi. Can you get as close as you? Ed Scarossi. I live at 3735 Arancho Road, Mims, Florida. My property is directly south and east of the applicant's business. And I do not, at the moment, oppose it. They've been great. I didn't know they moved until I saw the rezoning thing. My question would be on the binding development plan. If, with the removal of that, is it possible to amend the binding development plan for future if his request gets approved, if the binding development plan can be amended? Yes. As long as it's retained, correct? I believe the request is to remove the BDP, so that's the request before this board. If the board decides to add additional restrictions, then that will be done through a BDP. Okay. And I would do that at the county commission meeting? We're just a recommendation board. The county commissioners are going to make the final decision on this. Yeah, excuse my ignorance to the statue, because I originally, when it was rezoned, I think in 2007, I wrote that binding development plan, and it was in place for a convenience store. And I believe, that was my main thing, is if it's changed to business, can it be changed back to a convenience store, or can it be changed to, what does it, or is it just the current business model? He's asking to remove the BDP entirely. Okay. Okay. So, therefore, he could do what, I'm over here. He could do with the property, all the zoning that goes along with that, right? So, whatever he wants to use it for within that zoning, he could use that with the removal of the binding development plan. But it's possible to amend it, or make a new binding development plan, or? That could be a suggestion by the board. Okay. I think that answers it. Thank you for your time. Okay, sir. Thank you. Yeah. Does anyone else want to speak for or against this item? Yes. My name is Paul Ross. Hold on one second, Mr. Paul. If you get to the microphone, and if you would, please spell your last name. Sure. Good afternoon. My name is Paul Ross, B as in boy, R-O-S-S, and I just wanted to say that I am in support of removing the BDP and allowing this to be a BU1 property. Thank you. Anybody else in the public have a comment? I'm going to close it for a public comment then. Sir, if you could come back up. We're going to close for any public comments. Bringing it back to the board, do we have any questions for the applicant? I do. Yes, sir. Mr. John. What's the current use of that facility now? Currently, it's for a grocery store, but there's a gas station across the street. I don't think it makes any sense putting a grocery store. No, no, no. What is that building being used for right now? It's completely vacant right now at the time. It's vacant? Yes, sir. Okay. What do you want to put in there? Whatever the BU1 allows. I want to sell it, to be honest. Mm-hmm. That's what it is. So you're trying to clear it up. It's limiting my buyers because of the BDP, because a grocery store, there's not many people in MIMS. The reason I'm asking is a circle K across the street. I mean, it doesn't make any sense. Okay. So you are going to sell it, so you don't know what it's going to be. Exactly. Correct. Okay. Because the BDP that evidently this gentleman wrote didn't allow any alcohol to be sold on the premises or any drug paraphernalia. Shaking your head. I mean, that's what it says. That's the existing BDP says is that it restricts it so they cannot sell alcoholic beverages or have any drug paraphernalia sold at that premises also. We're not going to sell any of that kind of stuff. But you don't know what it's going to be. You said you're going to sell it. Well, it doesn't make any sense to selling alcohol. There's a gas station across the street that sells alcohol and beer and wine. But that particular property had been restricted in the last application back in 2007. Yeah. I sell cars for the living, sir. I don't sell alcohol or drugs. Yeah, but you're not going to run the place. You're telling me that you're going to sell it. That's the plan. It's God willing. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Any other questions from the board? I have a question for staff, just for clarification. If you took away the BDP, does that mean it could be like a bar, ABC Liquor, coin laundry, dry cleaners, car wash, or any of those things? Is that what fits a BU-1? So currently, the BDP only allows uses in BU-1A, which are neighborhood retail-type uses. So by removing the BDP, you would be allowing everything BU-1 would allow, such as automobile parts, automobile repairs, minor, automobile sales and storage, automobile tires and mufflers, new, and sales new. New, sales and service, and contractors' offices, convenience stores, with or without gas stations. You can sell package alcohol, also in BU-1, along with grocery stores, drug and sundry stores. With the package stores, but could it also be like an open bar, like an establishment of a bar? You can do restaurants in BU-1, and of course, like I said, the sales of alcohol beverages, packages only, but you could have a restaurant there or a bar. Sure. Okay. I have a question. It says in the notes that the corridor would be anticipated to operate at 43.82% daily. However, staff has determined a coffee shop, like if they put a coffee shop in, that would be, you know, something that would be acceptable with the removal of the BDP, and that would increase the corridor to operate at 146% of capacity daily. So, that's significant. Very significant. And then I have another question. I have that there was some code enforcement issues with this property. They're all satisfied, ma'am. They've all been satisfied? Yes, ma'am. That's why we're here. Thank you. Thank you. Are you finished? Okay. So, what I'm hearing is we've got a BDP on the property that the gentleman that owns the neighboring property sort of penned or authored and is okay with the way that it's operating now, but the whole spirit of it was in case the business type changes, and that's exactly what we might expect when the property sells. So, I don't know if that's a good idea when that's what was agreed to. When you, what is this, you bought the property in 2022 and then agreed to the BDP in 23? Is that the timeline? I didn't agree to anything. It was already there. It was already on the property. Okay. I thought I read something about 2023. The BDP was approved in 2007. 2007. Okay. But he did do a zoning verification letter where he was notified of the BDP and the uses that were permitted on the property. Okay. Understood. So, there are some landscape barriers and such that are spelled out in that BDP that the neighbor might like to keep in place if a different type of business is opened there in that location. So, that's what I'm reading. So, I would be in favor of it staying in place. Grocery store and there's a circle here across the street and the MIMS has 30 people in it. It doesn't make no sense. It's got a lot more than 30 people in it and it's not just a grocery store because for the last couple years there's been like how many businesses? 20, 30 businesses operating out of that building? A parking lot full of destroyed cars, right? So, I don't think it's been groceries. Well, that's what it's for there. The BDP is for a grocery store. The gentleman, the previous owner, had a bunch of junk and cars and boats and nobody said anything about that. But since I go there and clean the place now, I get hammered, you know? So, how many businesses were running out of that location? A couple. How many is a couple? Tire shop. More than 20 car dealerships and auto repair body shops? They didn't get approved, sir. No, sir. Okay. I never saw that parking lot empty in the last couple years, maybe since code enforcement. Isn't that good? I mean, for business? Well, when I say empty, it was full of wrecked vehicles. So, I don't think it was a grocery store. Somebody was doing something out of there. It wasn't a grocery store. That's all I'm saying. Okay, good. Ms. Ruth? I'm when everybody's done. Any other questions for the applicant? I'll move to deny. I'll second. We have a motion by John. A second. I'm sorry, who's second? A second by Ruth to deny. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Opposed. That got denied, sir. No problem. Item H2. Item H2. Thomas Don. For classification change from RR-1 to AU. Application is 25Z00024. And located at District 1. Sir, if you could state your name and address for the record. And please spell your last name. Thomas Dane. D-A-H-N. My address is 3131 Lionel Road. And a little bit about what you're wanting to do. We just want to. We bought an extra acre of land and attached it to combine it with the current property. And we want to farm it and sell produce from it to individuals fresh farm to table. All right. While you're right there, sir. Is there anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? All right. I'm going to close item H2 for public comment. We'll bring it back to the board. We got any questions for the applicant? Yes, Mr. Chairman. The property that you own currently, how is it zoned? RR-1. So you want to change the new property that you brought to be able to. So the original property was 1.78 acres. And we added another acre to it. We've already combined that and done all of that. So it's now one property now. So it's all combined into one property. And you want to change from the RR-1 to the AU. Correct. Okay. I just wanted to understand. Thank you. Sure. Sir, how are you going to get your produce to the customers? Are you going to be trucking it out of there? Or are they going to be driving up? Are you going to have a stand in front of the property? I'm not 100% sure on that yet. But my wife and I have just talked about wanting to do this. And we noticed the first step. We couldn't run a commercial agricultural business from the property without it being zoned to you. So that was our first hurdle. But, no, I mean, I don't think it's an acre of property. So we're not going to have semi-trucks coming in and loading stuff up. And I think you mentioned that you want to do organic farming. We do. And how are you going to protect your crops from sprays from your neighbors when they fertilize and kill bugs and stuff like that? That's a good question. I don't need an answer. I'm just letting you know that I think that's a concern. Okay. Because I know that I don't really care too much about what my neighbors are doing when I put my fertilizer out. I don't deliberately spray on it, but sometimes it happens. It does seem to me that this is like putting a business in the middle of a residential neighborhood. You are surrounded by a lot of residents there. There's a lot of AU that surrounds me as well. Mr. Ron, can you get a little bit closer to your mic, please, sir? Sorry. I'm not exactly opposed, but I just don't think it's a good idea. I'd just rather like to hear from some of the other board members about what they think. Okay. May I? Yes, sir. I've seen a lot of folks trying to go the opposite direction, AU to RR1. And as a person who lives in that area, I like to see it going the other way once in a while. So I will be in support of your application. Thank you. As long as you don't do a grocery store. Yes, Ruth, please. I would like to point out there are quite a few agritourism businesses in that area. The closest, just I would guesstimate less than a mile away, would be sleds. They do a sunflower maze and you pick various times through the year. But there's peaches, peach you pick, blackberry you pick through there. There's a ton of agritourism in there. It's a great way to bring agriculture and supplement the income because agriculture doesn't pay the bills. Agreed. And so it's really, my understanding would be, like, you know, just selling farm produce, you know, what are your produce right in front of your house? People would pull up and there would be ample parking on your property for them. Okay. All right. So just a neighborhood service more than a business. Can I make a motion to approve? No, I won't talk. Okay. Hold on one second, Ruth. Yes. John, go ahead. Where are you going to plant? To the east of your house? That's on that property. Are you looking at a picture of the layout? So can you see the acre that we purchased kind of hangs down to the north, I guess it points north? So the original property is like a long rectangle and then there's a, can I show you? Yeah. The design that I see on the lot, yeah. Sure. Okay. If you're going to speak, you need to speak into the microphone so we can pick it up. So I'm right, it's on the east side that you're going to do the farming? Northeast, yes. Okay. And that's also where you're going to put the little roadside stand? Mm-hmm. So where are you going to put the parking? Well, there's, I think, 140 feet of road frontage there on Lino. I'll tell you exactly. 140 feet, you're correct. So it's going to be a small farm? Oh, yeah. Okay. So you'll be able to put every, because you can't park on the road. Right, no. Okay, so people are going to have to come in. Yeah. Okay. And you're just going to farm in that little section there? Right. Okay. Anything good? Any good veggies or what? That's my wish. No animals, right? You're not going to? No animals. No animals, okay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Okay, Ms. Ruth. I'd like to motion to approve. Second. Second. I don't know if it was Erica first or we got a motion by Ruth, a second. Jared. By Jared. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passed unanimously. Thank you. Do I need to remain for anything? No, sir. You're good to go. Thank you. Item H3. Item H3. Dick Holdings, LLC, requests a CEP for a private heliport. In an AU zoning classification, and this is application 25Z-00033, located in District 2. Mr. Vahid. Good afternoon. My name is Vahid Timori, which is Morgan Associate. My office is at 32 East New Haven Avenue, Melbourne. We started this project a few years back to rezone the property, actually downzoned it from BU1 to what it is today, in order to be able to get a helipad, and we had to build a house, and so it just becomes an accessory to the property, and there's a lot of improvement made to the property. It was an ignored orange groves, and I believe my client, since he bought it, he's been doing a lot of cleaning, a lot of replanting, and basically he bought this for recreation, and that's what he uses it for. There's a lot of improvements made to the property, as well as drainage is resurrected to pumps, and basically pumps that, as everybody knows, Merritt Island is a big issue as far as flooding is concerned there, and he's been doing that a lot to basically pump water out when the flooding comes in. He's replanted a lot of trees, and basically what he wants to use this for, he has FAA approval already, but he wants to use this for his helicopter that he basically acquired, and he can't really have a hangar in the airport because of how busy they are and what have you. He's tried that for about 10 years. Basically, what he does, he lands it there for his own use and giving rights to his neighbors and friends, and it's not a commercial operation at all. It's a brand-new aircraft. It's very quiet and meets all the setbacks. Basically, it's going to go right in the middle of that property that he acquired, an additional 30 acres since two years ago, three years ago, and that's also zone agriculture. So, we had our meeting last Thursday, I believe, at Merritt Island local agencies. Yes, we got some paperwork on it. A lot of folks were in support of it, and those that weren't quite familiar with it, that got related to it. But Merritt Island passed it, correct? Yes, yes, he did. He's also here in the audience, and he can elaborate on operation, how he lands it, what he plans for it, and any questions that you might have as far as anything related to I leave back. Okay, Mr. Tamari, while you're right there, is there anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? Sir, if you could come up and state your name and address and spell your last name for the record. Yes, Franklin Bean, 331, oh, B-E-A-N, 331 Treasure Lagoon Lane, North Merritt Island. And I'm in support of this. First off, as far as noise ordinance goes, it's not a turbine engine, it's not a jet engine. It uses an engine very similar to what a Cessna or something would use. It's basically that type of engine, very quiet. And it's new, so it's meeting even more noise ordinances. Another thing I brought up in the other meeting is because this is an FAA-established helipad, Medevac, any emergency service would know that helipad exists. And, yes, they can land anywhere where there's flat ground, but if you've got a choice, a known helipad would definitely be much safer. So there's kind of a side benefit. And he's already stated that it's only for personal use, no commercial. There's a lot of hoops you'd have to jump through to be commercial on the FAA side, much less over here on this side. So he's a good citizen. They're helping out with the possible, you know, trying to avoid some of the flooding on North Merritt Island. I know it's not part of this exact thing, but anyway, I'm in support of it. All right. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Anyone else want to speak for or against this item, then I'll close it for public comment. Mr. Faheed, could you come back up to the podium there? Do we have any questions? Yes. Mr. Henry. I'm going to ask you a question. To the best of your knowledge, have you ever seen any kind of a helicopter permit for the entire length of Merritt Island down at the Dragon North to what now is the Space Center? I have not. You have no knowledge you've ever seen in one other than Merritt Island International Airport? Correct. That's the only place. I believe there is another, I refer to my client, he has more knowledge of that, that's more appropriate question for him, if I can ask him to answer that question. To the best of my knowledge, I probably have as much knowledge of Merritt Island as your friend. Okay. But I'm going to tell you, this has never been one. It's disturbing to another side of Merritt Island, and it's just real easy. But what happens to this board, if we make a massive subdivision change, and then there is one there, they're quickly pointed out to us that, hey, you caused that subdivision. I take a beating because I've been there so long. So I get to hear it all from all those people. And now if we say, well, let's just let one helicopter in. Let me assure you, with SpaceX sitting all over us, they're on both sides of me. I see more Teslas there than at the dealership. That's coming next. And I'm not going to support this at all. I'm disappointed in the HOA. You can say whatever you want about it, but for them to, they never supported anything. And for once, they finally supported something, and they ought to change their name to the Homeowner Association, to the Helicopter Organization Association, because it's just, they never supported anything. So I'm massively, along with so many people in our neighborhood, against it. That's all. Any other comments from the board to the applicant? Yes, I have a couple questions for you. Yes, sir. Does the owner have a private pilot's license? Let me refer to him. Let him answer those questions, if I can. Sir, you've got to state your name and address here for the record, and please spell your last name. My name is Evan Dick. Last name is Dick, D-I-C-K. And yes, I have, I actually have an ATP pilot's license, so, but I'm only private pilot for helicopter. I keep my fixed wing in Merritt Island, but I'm very experienced. And I understand your concern in that I am very familiar with the H, the Homeowners Association in North Merritt Island denying everything. I think the reason why they approved this is because it's not like there's going to be a lot of other heliports. I have 50 acres. There's not that many places where you can have 50 acres. You need 1,000 foot by 1,000 foot to be able to get the 500 foot setbacks in the center. So, you have to accumulate a pretty large property. That's why there are no other ones. I believe Brevard County is the only county that has restrictions on helicopters because other counties, they just defer to the FAA, which I've had approval for a year and a half now. And I have my, I have the number. There's actually no laws. It's like, what's the enforcement of landing a helicopter? Because the FAA says if you own the property, you can land on it. There's, I don't even know in Merritt Island, I have been landing on this property for the last year and a half. I fly twice a month, usually on Wednesdays. And none of the neighbors have even noticed because with the size of property I have, I don't even begin my descent until I'm over my property. I descend, I land in the center of it. And nobody's had any complaints and everybody kind of likes the idea that this is 50 acres that's not going to be developed because I'm using it privately just for me and my family and my friends and a lot of the neighbors that I'm friendly with to give rides and there's not going to be 50 houses there. I actually went the other direction of taking something that was zoned non-agriculture and turned it to agriculture and I'm planting trees there. And I just bought another 21 acres and I'm doing exactly the same thing. That was actually, had a business plan for residential and I'm making it agricultural. Just planted 500 more mango trees there. So I'm happy to answer any questions, but I think people hear the word heliport and they are very much against it, but I'm trying to, and like Vahit said, I could have done this at an airport except that I've been trying to build a hangar at either Titusville or Merritt Island Airport for ages because I have certain constraints. It has not gone anywhere. So I do rent a hangar, an existing hangar in Merritt Island, but there are power lines. I can't get a helicopter safely there and I need to land on a dolly because it's not like you can push your helicopter around. It needs to land on a dolly and pull it in. So it's just, it's not practical to be there. I have temporary storage for this because I started this process almost three years ago and I wasn't, I didn't, I thought I would, I ordered the helicopter, I thought I would be able to have a place to land it by the time I had approval. I've had temporary storage in Titusville at the USATS ramp, but that was just sold to an Eastern European company and they're putting in light support, they're constructing light support aircraft there. So I had no place except for outside to keep a helicopter and a brand new helicopter kept outside becomes less safe because of the saltwater corrosion. But I'm happy to answer any, any specific questions. Yeah, back to my question. Isn't there another requirement besides just a private pilot license to fly that particular helicopter? Yes, I have that. The SFAR number 73? Absolutely, you're very familiar. That SFAR goes away after 200 hours and I have over 200 hours of helicopter. Okay. And, and about 5,000 hours of other aircraft. And you've had more than 50 hours of flight time in the particular model of? All my, almost all my 200 hours is in that R-44. Okay. In that type of aircraft, that's why I bought it. Now you, you can't fuel it at this site. Obviously, I definitely cannot, I understand. So where are you going to be doing the fueling? Titusville and Merritt Island. Usually Titusville because they have a fuel truck, Merritt Island is a little less reliable, but it'd be one of those two places. I have an account with both. Okay. And related to your property, it's a lot, quite a large property, but I was just thinking what kind of security do you have for the, for the copter itself? It seems like that would be a inviting target for some youngster to say, I'm going to go try and see if I can fly that. Well, it's going to be stored inside. I've already built the residence. It's basically a very tall RV garage, a very large RV garage, and the helicopter lands on a trailer, and I already bought the golf cart that will tow it into the hangar. Okay. So everything's already built. That's why this, and I have millions of dollars invested. And then I was very nervous when people were thinking about denying that. I don't even know what it really means, though, to deny it, because it's, what is a heliport? It's just something that was written in the county rules, and I want to follow all the rules. But I'm not breaking any law to land on my own property. I've heard some concern about it being loud, and I did some research on that. It's about 100 decibels if you're next to it. But if you're, but if you're 500 feet away, which is where you normally fly, it's only about 66, which is, 66 is like a Ned Fridge conversation. So another thing I've used on this property. I don't think the noise, you know, really is a, is a concern. My son does motocross, and I have a little track for him, and that motor, the motorcycle is much louder. And I haven't heard any complaints. And neighbors both to the south and to the north of me shoot guns, so I think. That was all I had. I have a question for staff. Is there an acreage that's required, an amount of acreage in order to have a heliport on your property? It's 1,000 by 1,000 minimum. If you had everything perfect, I don't know how many acres that is. That's a requirement for a heliport? Your county has a 500-foot setback. So you have to be 500-foot from everything. That's all. That's what I wanted to know. Okay. Thank you. Erica, are you done? I am done. Okay. Ms. Debbie. So explain to me, first of all, I think this is, I have no problem with this, despite everything you need to say. I actually think that you have made a point of doing the right thing by the community and making sure that you have enough land to be able to do this. But I just want everybody out here and at home to understand, you're going to be taking off and then going straight up. And then when you come down, you're going straight down. So it's not as if you're going to be impacting any existing residents around you. I won't be flying any lower over those residences than any other helicopter that happens to fly over there. So you probably already do that. I have been doing this for a year and a half. Nothing's going to change between what I've been doing for the last year and a half. Like I said, there's no rule against, no laws against me landing. But you guys, you could, the county could come up with a law against it. And that's why I'm going through this process. Absolutely. No, I think this is a great idea. I don't have any problems with it whatsoever. And half the people I've given rides to are neighbors and North Merritt Island residents. Mr. Chair. One second, Mr. John. Yes, indeed. To answer Ms. Erica's question, there is no acreage requirement, but there is a requirement 500 feet from every property line. So therefore, we're setting a precedent if we say, okay, if we say, go ahead and build this teleport, you know, heliport, we are setting a precedent. How many other properties have that size footprint? They don't, but they don't require that size. Staff just said they don't require the size of property that you have. I pretty much have what I started this permanent with. You just have a minimum? Yeah, it's about, I mean, 20 some acres is the minimum to have 1,000 by 1,000. I can't do the math exactly, but I mean, what's 1,000 by 1,000? Okay. 1,000 foot by 1,000 foot is around 20 some acres. Okay. Yes. Debbie, or John. Yes. Are you going to harden the pad? Right now, I'm actually planning to just continue to land on the grass. So I'm not even asking to construct anything, but I want to leave that as an option. I'm not, not harden it. It just paved it, like put a driveway. To get to it. So you said when you trail it back to that building? Yeah, just so that, I bought a 4x4 golf cart, but it might be nicer to have a smoother path to bring it. Okay. Yeah, I noticed in your documentation that you were going to put an H on it. That's why I was asking if you were going to harden it. Right now, it's just in the grass. It's going to have to be painted. Yeah, exactly. I actually have to paint lines every time I land, because to land on the dolly, I don't want to be looking down. I want to be looking straight ahead, so I have a painted line in the grass. But yeah, that is something I'm considering, but obviously the first step is to get approval to have everything for the county set, and then whether I make it harder in a little 20 by 20 area, and then put a driveway in, I'm not sure. Are you going to put any lights out there for night landings? No, I'm not allowed to. If you look at the ordinances, I'm not allowed to land at night. I'm not allowed to fly more than twice a day. I think it's, I don't know. Twice a month. I fly twice a month, but the actual, somebody spent a lot of time putting in the county a whole list of rules for the heliport, but you're right that there aren't many that are out there, and the other attempt in Merritt Island was Dr. Niazzi, but he lives in a one acre plot, so he could never get to satisfy the setbacks. So he tried to do it without having any setbacks. I live just north of you, and I drive by your, I always wondered what was in that building there, because all I saw was garage doors. That pad is going to be pretty close to Courtney Boulevard. It's 500, more than 500 foot away. That's not my point. My point is that when you're landing or taking off, you might become a distraction for the drivers. Let me finish, please. Would you be willing to plant a row of trees between your pad and the road? I'd be happy to plant whatever you'd suggest. We were, there is requirement of a barrier, but we were thinking as we plant more of trees, like our, and our trees grow, the mangrove trees we just planted 500 more, that will become a natural, a natural barrier. But if there's any recommendation for me to plant additional trees, I'm happy to do so. And I'm also happy, if you live in North Merritt Island, to give you a ride, and you can see for yourself. That was my, my next question was, it said in the application that you give rides to your family and friends. How many friends do you have? Not enough. I actually, I'd say I fly a lot of the time solo just to stay, stay current. So I'm always happy to give rides, because I'm, and one of the rides, I would help the police looking for a downed aircraft, because I was just flying for currency reasons. Um, every, at twice a month, and, um, and they needed help, so it was, uh, fun to do. So I'm, I'm, I'm just doing this for, for recreation. I'm happy to take, take people for a rise, um, for this Glenn, uh, Blue Origin launch, the new Glenn 2. I took, uh, seven astronauts who were visiting from out of town and out of the country, just tours to go see the, uh, the launch pad from the air. And to, about Courtney's distraction, I will never get anywhere. I will never go pretty much east of where I am, because there's actually restricted airspace along Courtney. So everything to the east of Courtney, um, is restricted, and no, no aircraft aside from NASA's can fly there. So I'll always be coming from, um, the west and the southwest. Okay. Uh, I was just worried about the distraction that a helicopter taking off and landing as the traffic goes by. That's, that's a good point. People will, you know, tend to look at it. That's why I'm looking for a buffer. Would you be willing to sign a BDP to do that? To, uh. To have, to plant a, a, a tree barrier buffer? Uh, I guess so, um, but I've already been planting. There is, are you familiar with the, all the trees that have been planted there? Yeah, but they're, you know, they're pretty far between. Yeah, well, we need to see if space for, as, as they're growing. So we've planted the, the most recent, so we did 500 last year and another 500 this year. Those are Valencia, um, mangroves are the Valencia, which are going to grow the fastest, and they're going to be 20 foot tall. If you look in the back of Eric Marlow's property, you can see how big those Valencias are going to be in, in a year or two. Um, to try to get something that's about the fastest growing tree for that area, to try to plant something that's going to be a similar height to that and grow that fast. I, I don't know, um, I don't know what, what I would actually do, but, um, I'm happy to show you and take any advice that I'm employing, um, the person who planted the orange grove originally, uh, 30 years ago. Um, uh, he's my property manager. He works full time there, and he's been planting the trees, and I'm happy to take your or his advice on, on how we can get more growth, um, beforehand. But you'd have to have pretty, you'd have to have, like, really high trees, and you don't really want high trees for safety reasons when you're flying a helicopter around. In fact, one of the things I'm doing right now is removing the power line, um, which is costing over $100,000 just to the power line, to that pump. The pump is serving not just my house, it's serving all the, the houses around me, and I don't want that pump to ever go down, but I also don't want to have power lines there, because it's just, um, no, it's a hazard, I understand. Yeah, um, and I want trees, but I, 20, 20 foot or so is about as high as I probably want. That would be sufficient. Yeah, so I think what I have there right now, what I've just, including the stuff that I just planted, that might look small, look at the ones that we planted last year and see how much bigger they are. I think it's just going to be a, a year or two, and you're going to see a lot more vegetation between the road and, and where the, where I will be landing. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. All right. Mr. Robert. So, um, you're doing a public service, you're doing everything, everything that we think, we can think of to badger you with, you've already, you've already thought of and are, and are doing it. Um, you don't have to get this approval, but you're going for it, um, just to be a nice guy. I, I don't understand any reticence from this board to not give him approval for a health, which, and then just like we said, uh, emergency services and the sheriff and they can use your helipads or if there's no helipads in Merritt Island, for goodness sakes, why isn't there? And if the drawbridge were to break, um, which has happened in the past, I, I think Merritt Island has grown up enough to have a helipad. Okay, any other questions from the board to the applicant? I'd like to make a motion to approve. Second. Got a motion by Debbie, a second by John on item H3. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Yes. That passed almost unanimously. Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. Item H4. Yes, item H4, Robert E. and Leslie Bishop, request zoning classification change from RU-1-7 to SR. It's tax, uh, located at, uh, District 3, application number is 25Z-00034. Hi, my name is Leslie Bishop, 9200 Tucker Street, Micco, Florida, 32976. And Robert Bishop passed away last year. I have his desk. And ma'am, a little bit about what you're wanting to do there. Yeah, so, uh, I'm in a, my house I grew up in, a 1952 house, and it's an old structure. And I'm, I'm building a solid, I want to add on, there was an old, like, Florida room, you know, with the jealousy windows, and it was leaking. So, I had that torn down, and I just want to build a solid structure room, basically. It's not, it's a little bit bigger, it's, I want to say maybe a couple feet wider, but my property's huge, and there's plenty of room. And that's it. Just trying to build a room. You know, cement block versus Sears and Roebuck sprayed foam, foam roof. All right. And then when I went to build, I didn't, you know, I didn't realize, you know, from years ago, I guess my parents never, I don't know, I wasn't, I don't know. Had to get it re-zoned. Yeah. Okay, well, you're right there. Does anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? All right. Seeing that, I bring it back to the board. Do we have any questions for her? Move for approval. Second. Item H-4, we've got a motion by Debbie, a second by Jared. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passed unanimously. Yeah, thank you. I made the second, if you were correct. I made the second. I'm sorry. I said Jared seconded, and it was Neil. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. How do, should, does my husband, how do I, do I get his, do I keep his name on the house, or how does all, like, where do I go to for that, since he passed away? Whatever, whoever was handling your estate, or whatever you're doing there, I would get with them. Oh, okay. All right. I'm, I'm looking at it right here, and it says Leslie Bishop. That's the only name that I see. It does? Because on that zoning sign that they had out front at my house, it says Robert and Leslie Bishop. On the appraisal district, it just has your name. Oh, okay. All right. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Item H-5. Yes, item H-5, Sandra Walsh and Terry, Canada, request. Signing classification change from AU to RR-1 is application 25Z-00036, located in District 1. I'm Monica Pritchard, P-R-I-T-C-H-A-R-D, from Goldman, Monaghan, Thacker, and Bittin, and I represent Ms. Sandra Walsh and Ms. Terry Cannata, and they would like to go from AU to RR-1. Ms. Walsh lives next door, and I know that you've had previous conversation. You just said that, Mr. Atkins. So, her and her husband own the house next door. Her mom, Ms. Terry and Ms. Sandra's mom, passed away on the neighboring lot, and they inherited that property. And they intend, they want to put a flag lot there eventually, but they intend to just keep it as family property between the two lots. And they would just like the ability to possibly develop it in the future, but they have no intention of developing it right now. I think there's currently even a septic moratorium, and I'm happy to answer any questions, but there's nothing exciting going on there. Okay, while you're right there, ma'am, does anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? All right. Seeing that, I'm going to close it for public comment, bring it back to the board. Do we have any questions for the applicant? Chair? Yes, sir, John. Yes, just a quick one. Um, the existing property that Walsh is on, are they going to change that one also? No. Just this one in the middle? Just this one. They're thinking that maybe eventually, like for Ms. Walsh, they took care of the mom, so they're thinking that eventually, like, maybe their kids will take care of them, and they might be able to, it's wishful thinking, but maybe, you know, they can put something back there, their kids can live there, or something like that in the future. But like I said, I think there's a septic moratorium. They realize that they may never potentially be able to develop this, but they would like to split it up. Also, I think that, um, the sisters intend to financially buy each other out. Ms. Walsh intends to keep the back lot. Sister intends to keep the front lot with the house, um, but they intend to keep between the two lots, it's going to be family property, family owned. That's the intention. Okay. There is an existing house on that property, correct? Are they, are you, are they planning to put a second house on it? If they developed the back lot, the flag lot. Right. Then eventually, yes, if it's possible. But right now, you can't do that. You can't pull the permits for it. There's a septic moratorium, and they know that. They just want to, I think Ms. Walsh intends to keep the back lot. Ms. Kanata intends to keep the house in the front, and they're going to separate the properties, buy each other out, but it's sisters, and then Ms. Walsh and her husband own the property next door. Okay. That just complicated everything. Sorry. Did I make it clear as mud? I'm sorry. Absolutely. Okay. So they, this property is owned by the two sisters. It was inherited. And Ms. Sandra Walsh and her husband own the property next door. They live next door. So it's two parcels side by side. This property, Ms. Kanata intends, I believe, to keep the front house, and they would like to put a flag lot in the back, and Ms. Walsh would like to keep that property, and potentially, if possible, develop it one day. That explains it. Is that better? Thank you, Mr. Chair. Any other questions from the board? I don't have questions per se, but maybe discussion. I'm sorry? I don't have questions per se, but maybe discussion. Okay. There is a septic moratorium in the area. There's also an active investigation with St. Johns River Water Management due to wells going dry in the area, and drainage in the area is a known problem. And the back part is wetlands. That would be a question. I do not have the answer to that question. I don't know if you're looking to staff. Anybody who might have the question. There's a wetlands map actually on the staff maps. It's not coming up for me. I'm sorry. There's nothing on there. No, no. It's clear. Because I thought that the staff report mentioned it. The staff report mentions hydric soils may be present. So, any development would require wetland delineation to be submitted. Okay. I'm sorry. Can you repeat that? So, in the staff report, in the natural resources section, they do note that there may be hydric soils on the property, which may be an indication of wetlands. So, prior to any development, they would need to submit a wetland delineation report. I just, I don't think it's a really good idea to be splitting and rezoning with a bunch of complications in the area already. Not just the wetlands, but the drainage. If anybody's been out there after any of these storms, what receives the water to the east of them is a lot. Any other discussion? I think the only other thing is that if you're not planning on doing, you know, building immediately, then it doesn't really affect you because you can't because of the septic moratorium and you said you aren't planning on building immediately. So, yeah. The clients don't intend on building immediately and they may never build. So, maybe then, you know, when some of these other issues have been addressed, you know, that might be a more appropriate time for us to have this discussion. Not splitting the lot. I think that in order to split the lot, the only way that you can split it is to rezone it. And I think that they would like to, it's two sisters, they're going to end up owning the parcels, but they would like to financially kind of buy each other out. Ms. Walsh would like the back end. Ms. Cannata would take the house. So, the only way that they can accomplish that instead of just mutually owning the whole property together is by rezoning. Do you want to say something? I'm just waiting for the discussion. To be done. I'm sorry? Are we good? I'll make a motion to deny. I'll second. Okay. For item H5, we've got a motion to deny from Ruth. A second by Erica. All those in favor say aye. Aye. All right. That did not pass unanimously. I need another motion on item H5. I make a motion to approve. I'll second that. I've got a motion by Debbie. I've got a second by Robert on item H5 to approve. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. Aye. So, that would still be Ruth and Erica. Good luck at the county commissioner's meeting. Okay. The next item, H6, is an LPA item. Yes, sir. Excuse me. Item H6 and H7 are companion items. I'm going to read them both in, but they'll need to have a separate vote for each item. Item H6, Jacob Fon requests a small-scale comprehensive plan amendment to change the future land use designation from Res 1 to Res 2. The application is 25SS00008. It's located in District 1. And item H7, Jacob Fon requests a zoning classification change from SR with a BDSR with removal of the existing BDP. And addition of a new BDP. And this application is 25Z00037. Also located in District 1. Okay, sir. If you could state your name and address and spell your last name for the record. Jacob Fon, F-O-U-N-E, 4060 Golden Shores. And a little bit about what you're wanting to do, Mr. Jacob. So, I initially bought the property, not aware of any issues to build on it. Um, I turned in all my permits, got everything accepted, started construction. Um, I currently already have my concrete slab done, my block. I have trusses sitting in the dirt for almost five or six months now. Um, now I'm just waiting to get it approved to continue my construction. While you're right there, is there anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? Um, Mr. Jacob, if you could step aside and let him come up. Same thing, sir, if you could state your name and address for the record and spell your last name. Clifford McKnight, 3900 Golden Shores Boulevard. Um, M-C-K-N-I-G-H-T. Uh, currently the rezoning. Uh, I don't know what happened to get this approved. Uh, you're supposed to get rezoned. You can rezone down to one acre. Uh, this is going to rezone it down to a half an acre, uh, setting a precedence for future, uh, building in the area. Uh, according to the property appraiser website, this property is listed at 0.45 acres. Uh, it is now with the current survey listed as 0.51, so I have a discrepancy there. Um, I don't know what happened to get this thing rubber stamped to where he could start building. I feel sorry for him, but, uh, also with this property, the house directly behind it that just got built, 4070, their driveway runs directly through this piece of land also. So, by building this, approving it and building this house, um, you're cutting off their flag lot. Uh, they don't have direct access. Uh, the, the current BDP, I'm not sure what, what, uh, is going to entail with that being changed. I'm not in favor of this. All right, sir. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else want to speak for or against this item? Seeing that, I'm going to close it to public comment and bring it back to the board. We have any questions for Mr. Jacob? Yes, sir. John, yes, sir. Okay. How'd you buy this? Did you go through a realtor? No, I'm not a realtor. Nope. Just bought it, um, I work construction, so I just work in the area all the time and work with people that sell lots. Um, I was told of the lot and made a deal and closed on and turned everything in. Who did the survey for you? Um, I'm not sure. I can. But did you, do you, did you pay for the survey? Yes. You had it done? Yes, sir. So, your surveyor didn't notify you that this was an illegal lot? No, sir. Okay. It might be a lawsuit there for you. Um, also, it seems that the county misstepped on this, too, when they issued you a building permit, which is sad. Also, this, the last gentleman that spoke said that there is another lot that's supposed to be flagged through yours? Correct. So, they have an easement, a 25-foot easement to the left. Is that what's showing on the thing here, on the survey? Yeah, it should be. On the left, on the, I guess it's the west side? Yes. Correct. Okay. The parcel that's to the rear does have an approved easement to get to their lot. Right. So, the rest, that's the east side. I'm looking, I'm looking at the survey, just to see where that is. So, but you're aware of that? Correct. Because, the other, there's a, hold on a second, I'm looking at this wrong. You're saying on the east side, there's the flag lot? On the west side, there is an easement for them. Well, it looks like there's one on the other side also. There's, like, a piece of property, I think it's, like, something the county owns. I think it's 25 feet wide as well. Okay, but it doesn't affect the house that you wanted to build? No. Okay. No, the slab's already done. You know, I really feel bad about this. This is, the county let you down, the surveyor let you down, the seller let you down, and you're paying money on construction that's not having, that's not being completed. And waiting for an answer for almost six months. I think, number one, that they shouldn't charge you any fee for this change that you want, and that they should let you proceed. That's sad. Question, if I may? Yes, Mr. Garrett. Who sold you the lot? Scotty Minnick. And who is building the house? Owner-builder. Okay. I have a question for staff. In the packet, it says that if the zoning request is approved, that it will not be introducing new zoning into the area that it won't, like, Res 2 won't be, can't be used in the future to build on the intensity and density in the area. How do we guarantee that? Because we got here, there was a BDP to prevent this, and multiple steps were missed. So if we put another barrier in place, what guarantee is there that we're not going to be sitting here in another six months or so? Because there seems to be quite a few mistakes happening up in the Scottsmore area, and it's repeated up against this board. And how do we stop, like, what is that guarantee? Yeah, so the technicians that reviewed the building permit originally, they went through additional eight-week training, so we have corrected that and tightened it up so their reviews are more focused and they know what to look for for the future. Additionally, we have cited in the staff report that this action, if it to be approved, would not be presidential in nature. And so by stating that, we feel that that would not allow for other people to do the same thing, because this is a unique situation. Staff did make an error in originally approving the building permit, and so we're doing what we can for Mr. Fawn to correct our errors. Okay, because when we get these reports, it'll give us a range sometimes, like there's .22 acres to five-acre properties in the area. Is there going to be a note attached to any rezoning in the area that this one will not be considered? When we get those reports before a planning and zoning board, so that way we, like, in the future, everybody who's considering a rezoning in that area will have a note to that effect? Well, you know, as you know, when we do our staff reports, we do a search radius of 1,000 square feet, and so any zonings, rezonings, or small scales that have happened within that 1,000 square feet is noted in the staff report. So in that way, that's how we would protect this from not happening again, from moving forward, is by doing that search. And in that staff report, it would let us know that this property shouldn't be considered? We would do what we can to work with the applicant before even bringing it forward. But, of course, it is still up to the applicant in the end. Because it kind of feels like we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. People moved up that way, and they have larger lots. They did that on purpose. They didn't stumble into larger lots. And now we have somebody who's going to lose an immense amount of money because somebody who sold him the lot dropped the ball, his surveyor dropped the ball, and someone in staff dropped the ball. And now there's no res 2 anywhere near that. And now we're going to introduce a new zoning into the area, all to make everybody else's missteps correct. And the problem I have with that is considering everybody who lives there that moved there not to have that particular zoning. And that's quite a conundrum. Mr. Chairman? Yes, sir. When you bought the property, did you close with a title company? Yes, I did. Okay. Have you spoken to them about this? Not yet, no. You should? Yeah. Mr. Chairman? I had a question for staff. Yes, sir. Mr. Ruff. Related to what Ruth was saying, when this lot was split back in 2020, who should have recognized that this was illegal? So? Would it be the property appraiser's office, the buyer's lawyer, the county clerk, zoning staff? Who would normally have found, who would you expect to have found this error? So zoning staff are not involved with properties when they're split. That is done through the clerk of courts. They also take it over to the property appraiser. But it has to be recorded with the clerk of courts. Clerk of courts' staff does not look at zoning or BDPs or anything else. So we don't know about it until it gets mapped. So in essence, what the situation that we have here is that until he actually pulls the burnt building permit, he would never have known he had a problem. That is correct. And in this case, he actually got a building permit. Yes, sir. A lot of times the property appraisers will call the zoning if they're trying to get a mortgage on it and make sure that it's properly done. And we'll tell them when something like this has been recorded that it's done without meeting the requirements for the zoning classification. The surveyors don't usually look at stuff like that. All they do is get a legal description and they go out and survey the property by that. The title company is the one that should be looking at that. I was thinking the title company ought to have found that and advised him that there was a problem. Because of all these failures, I'm going to recommend that we approve this with the disclaimer. But before we get to that, how are we going to put this disclaimer in effect? Are we going to ask him to put a BDP on the property or how is that known? How does it make known? We did that. Yes, sir. We are requesting a BDP with this action. Sorry, let me get you the right verbiage. So what we're proposing is two things. The applicant agrees that this rezoning request and companion future land use amendment application was the result of an unlawful split by the predecessor in interest and will stipulate to the fact in any future proceedings regarding that action. And number two, that this rezoning and companion future land use amendment application are not precedential but instead are being requested to resolve the substandard lot that has arisen as a result of the unlawful lot split and under these particular circumstances that it be recognized that these actions are being granted based upon the unique conditions of the subject property. Okay. Anyway, Mr. Chairman, I recommend approval with that disclaimer. Well, I'd like to just go on and say one other thing. You know, I've done a lot of real estate transactions in my lifetime, but I've always used a realtor, and it's been brought to my attention. Erica, this is zoned this way, right? So just in the – I mean, like, and so then the onus always, if it's a buy, you know, for sale by owner, you know, then, you know, a lot of things get hidden. And so just recommendation for the future. And I, you know, I don't want to see this set a precedent. So I do want to make sure that we've got this BDP in it as we know not to use it. So along with that, I guess I'll go along with everyone else. Thank you. I have a follow-up question, if I might. Okay. Out of curiosity, what kind of construction do you do? HVAC. Okay. Do you work for the gentleman that sold you the property at all? Yes, I do. I work for a lot of the small builders in Titusville-Mems area. Okay. I've got one question. This doesn't fall under the auspices of the septic tank moratorium, does it? No, it does not. The area is covered? Who said that it is not? It is not, and it's up to think moratorium. Okay. The chair. I'm still holding your motion, Mr. Ron. I haven't forgot you. Okay. You still work for Minnick? Yes, I do. Yep. Does he know the trouble he's put you in? Yep. Is he helping you out in any way? We'll see. Hopefully. No, I mean, this is an expense that you're... Do you have a mortgage on this? I don't. You're paying cash or anything? Yeah, so far. Okay. I'll second his motion. Okay. Item H6. I've got a motion by Ron, a second by John. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. Aye. Ruth and Jared, is that correct? Correct. All right. And I need a motion on H7. Make a motion on H7 to recommend approval. Second. Okay. Item H7. I've got a motion by Ron, a second by Neil. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. Aye. Jared and Ruth opposed? Good luck. Thank you. All right, sir. Thank you. Item H8. Yes, item H8. Linda Munns and Aaron Munns, Jr. request signing classification change from GU to AU. The location is 25Z-00040, located in District 1. Ma'am, are you the applicant? I am. If you could state your name and address for the record and spell your last name, please. Linda Munns, M-U-E-N-Z. Address is 5520 Fan Palm Avenue, Coco. And a little bit about what you're wanting to do. So we basically just want to be able to rezone our property from GU to AU. It could have been done administratively, except for we are 0.2 acres too small for it to have been done that way. So we had to go through this way to have it done. Ultimately, when my husband and I retire, he has a shop out back. You can't see our house or the shop from the street, and we're within setbacks, but he's got a shop where he works on his cars and things like that. And I like to work with wood, and those two things don't go together very well. And so we want to eventually build another smaller shop for me. All right. While you're there, is there anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? Seeing that, I'm going to close it for public comment. I'm going to bring it back to the board. Do we have any questions for the applicant? Mr. Chairman? Yes, sir. Are you going to be raising animals? I don't think so, no. I don't want to. We used to have a horse farm in northern Virginia. I really don't want to do that again. Okay. Thank you. I have a question. Mr. Jared. Maybe for staff. Are there any nonconforming lot issues if they rezone this lot, and it's smaller than what you can do for AU with them building another building? Is that a thing? They've got a variance to the lot size so that they can bring it into compliance with the AU size of 2.5. Okay. They're still going to be able to use the AU as far as doing accessory structures. They need to meet all the setbacks. The AU exempts you from how big you can have and how many. Okay. And as an aside, there are lots of other properties right around us that are the same size that are AU. I was just looking out for you on that one, really. I support it. We're fixing it. Sure. Okay. I need a motion. Motion to approve. Second. It doesn't matter. It's a popular one. Okay. Let's get somebody out there. Who was the second? Ruth? Sure. I've got a motion by Jared on item H8, a second by Ruth. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passed unanimously. All right. Thank you. Item H9. Item H9. And Paul and Cheryl Peterson request a zoning classification change from RU-1-9 to RU-2-6. Applications 25Z-00035. It's located at tax account number 2611660 in District 4. Okay. Sir, are you the applicant? Yes, sir. If you would state your name and spell your last name and your address for the record. My name is Paul Pearson. My last name is P-E-A-R-S-O-N. My address is 4339 Chastain Drive, Melbourne, Florida. All right. And a little bit about what you're wanting to do. We're looking to go from R1 to R6 to increase the usage of the property in which we originally bought the property that was being used that way from the previous owner, which we found out the previous owner has had multiple, multiple problems with zoning, health department issues, and which we've all tried to resolve, which working. I haven't been, but Steve Todd, the contractor, has been working with staff. He was unable to make it. He had an emergency today. So, I'm standing up for him, and I have some knowledge of what he's done and some of what he hasn't done. But I'm able to answer probably a lot of the questions that you may have. While you're right there, sir, is there anyone in the audience who want to speak for or against this item? I'm going to close it for public comment, and I'm going to bring it back to the board. We got questions for the applicant? Yes. Was there a variance requested? There's been multiple variances because of the way the property was originally built, and then there was additions added on by two previous owners in which the setbacks are short of the original county zoning. Excuse me. That was a question for staff. It wasn't clear. Wasn't there a, staff, wasn't there a variance request to vary from the 30% breezeway corridor? Yes. There was, I think, three different variances for setbacks because they're changing them from the single family into multifamily, and then being on the river, there's also a breezeway requirement for the 200 feet off the river of 30%. They had a variance that was approved for it, too. Okay. Thank you. Now, another question for staff. It's been this way for 19 years. How did they get a building permit for three rental units in an R1 zoning classification? The property was built with permits for garages in the front. They were connected with the breezeway. That was how it was originally done back in the early 2000s. So later on, the breezeway slowly disappeared through weather and such. The previous owners had changed the garages into living areas for apartments. It's like the gentleman here said, there's multi-issues with code enforcement for doing that. And we've worked with Zach Frame from the health department, and he's already, we've clarified and fixed all the issues. And then the new septic system that's going in will fix the other issues that were there. They had put in temporary septic systems on the property. Sounds to me like we ought to support this new buyer. He's getting out, taking property from, that's been creating a lot of problems for us. And he's fixing the problems and making it all legal again. I think, you know, I'm going to recommend approval. And just so you know, the owners around, I've spoken to all of them, and they're all in favor of it. So, just to give you an indication. Nobody's here against it. That's, I'll second that, Ron's motion. If that was a motion. Yes. Okay, item H-9, got a motion by Ron, a second by Jared. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passed unanimously. Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Item H-10. Good afternoon. Item H-10, Jay and Grant. Steinke requests zoning classification change from GU to AU. Application is 25Z-00038. It's located in District 2. Sir, if you'd state your name and address for the record and also spell your last name. Yes, Jay Steinke. It's S-T-E-I-N-K-E, 6177, Cary Drive, Melbourne. And a little bit about what you're wanting to do. Yes, I bought this property for my son. He's a zookeeper at the Brevard Zoo and an environmentalist out there. It's a wetland area. We bought it. The intent is to eventually put a small house out there, a mini house out there. I want to put about a half acre of blueberries out there and 10 or 15 hives of bees out there. And hopefully he'll have a spouse that wants to dabble in anything. His girlfriend right now wants to have a few chickens. I want to put a couple of elevated vegetable plots out there so we can raise and he can hopefully sell stuff down the road. While you're right there, is there anyone in the audience want to speak for or against this item? Sir, if you could step aside there. And if you could come up and get as close as you can to the microphone, state your name and address, and spell your last name for the record, please, sir. Hi, yeah. My name is Jim Cutts. That's C-U-T-T-S. I'm at 1850 Barton Boulevard in Rockledge, Florida, and I noticed – I did a little bit of research with regard to changing to AU, which looks like it can be rezoned to have some residential property on there with lot sizes that are a little bit unclear. I just didn't know what the lot sizes were. We have no objection to houses or anything being built on there. I was just wondering if it was going to be developed beyond a single residence, what the lot size of those houses would be. Staff, could we answer that? So AU zoning classification requires two-and-a-half-acre lot sizes. Thank you. Yeah, in that case, we would have no objection. In fact, we're quite looking forward to having other properties down in that area. Thank you. All right. Thank you, sir. Sir, if you could come back up. Mr. Chair, if I can – Yes, ma'am. The maps in your package are incorrect. He's only rezoning about 15 acres of the 22-and-a-half acres. So the bottom portion of it is going to remain the zoning that it is. He's only doing 14 acres that the northern piece is what's being rezoned. I understand. Mr. Ron. Yeah, a couple questions. Yes, sir. First off, you're going to be a resident. Blueberries? Well, that's what my hope is. Well, as I drive by 985, I see that area flooded quite a bit. So maybe blueberries is a good thing to grow. Mm-hmm. Or cranberry. It's also a lot of wetlands. So you're aware that wetlands can be a problem in doing any kind of development? Absolutely. So additional – okay. As long as you're aware of that. Right now it's covered with invasives, so I'm trying to clear out the melaleuca and clear out the Brazilian pepper and clear out the Chinese mallow and, yes, there's some work to be done. And get rid of all the hogs that are out there. Okay. So that's the only question I've got. Mr. Jared. Any particular reason you're not rezoning the entire parcel? Well, part of it's private conservation on the very south end. Okay. And that was something the county did. I was trying to rezone the whole thing. Okay. And they were the ones that recommended – Yeah. Okay. Staying that out – you know, keeping that out of it. Okay. I wasn't really thinking about it until you brought it up and then it – And part of that's a two-and-a-half-acre pond. You can't do much with it anyway. You can't do that. Yeah. So, okay. Thanks. Any other comments from the board? To approve. Second. Item H10 got a motion by John, a second by Neil. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed? That passed unanimously. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Bill. All right. Thank you. Any other discussions for the board before I close it? Meeting adjourned. Do we have a meeting in December? We don't do it. In January, we come back. The opinions expressed by any member of the public during any period of public comment do not necessarily – The opinions expressed by any member of the public during any period of public comment do not necessarily –