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help it does make a difference if you wish to speak to any item on the agenda or during the public comment portion of the meeting please fill out a speaker card each person addressing the board shall have three minutes to complete his or her comments on each agenda item for which he or she has filled out a card the chair has the discretion to determine or alter the time limits on any agenda item the board of county commissioners requests that speakers appearing under the public comments section of the agenda limit their comments or presentations to matters relating to county business that are within the board's control authority and jurisdiction the invocation will be delivered by reverend emily wasser let us pray and creator by your holy prophet you taught your ancient people to seek the welfare of the cities in which they lived with this in mind we commend our neighborhood to your care on this day we commend it with the hope that we might be a good place for all who live here that it might be kept free from social strife and decay we ask that you would renew the ties of mutual regard that form our civic life as we seek to work together to eliminate poverty prejudice oppression that peace may prevail with righteousness and justice with order we thank you for all of your servants for honest and able leaders we ask that you would give all in authority the wisdom and strength to know your will and to do it in the world help them to remember that they are called to serve the people as lovers of truth and justice give them strength of purpose and concern for others that they may create here a community of justice and peace where your will may be done in your holy and everlasting name we pray amen amen i'd like to wish everyone a happy saint patrick's day as well okay please stand for the pledge commissioner access of the leaders to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all okay first item is the minutes for january 5th sorrel workshop i'll make a motion to approve second motion second and approve all in favor say aye aye aye carries unanimously okay um we also have um e1 resolution a knowledge in april is a month of the military child district four uh sir real quick before we do that uh would you like me to make a motion to allow commissioner goodson to participate yes yes okay there's that that's my motion sir second the motion is second to allow commissioner goodson to participate by phone okay all in favor aye okay all right okay all right thank you sir thank you very much i'm honored that you would ask me again to uh do the resolution for the military child um you're welcome to come up we have many members from avet here today i'll read the resolution we'll pass it and then uh you'll be recognized to to speak okay and uh we have linda vicky chachi right and no joni okay all right you have to be of oh okay well sorry to hear that all right april the month of the military child whereas avet project inc and all volunteer 501c3 non-profit organization is asking you to join us nationally to include state and local governments schools military service organizations companies and private citizens in recognizing and applauding the daily sacrifices and courage the military child has to overcome by celebrating april the month of the military child which is a part of former defense secretary casper weinberger's legacy through the department of defense's commemoration in 1986 and whereas there are more than 1.6 million military children in florida has 1.5 million veterans their families and survivors our military children who face challenges and unique experiences as a result of their parents service to our country serving around the world and sometimes for many months or even years may we not forget about our youngest warriors the military child who also serves remember to recognize the hardships they face americans everywhere should find ways to support the military child and whereas the military child plays an important role to our country not only dealing with uncertainty and concern for their parents they take on many family responsibilities working as a team while their loved one is serving our country away or at home and whereas on average military families are on the move every two to three years moving from one station to another which often includes out of state or even out of country this is not always easy going from school to school not to mention making new friends while saying goodbye to old ones far too often birthdays holidays important life mouth milestones are celebrated via phone call whereas we encourage schools to plan special events honoring military children and that administrators and principals incorporate this month's themes into their everyday duties events and responsibilities these efforts will reinforce the importance of providing children with quality services and support to help them succeed in the mobile military lifestyle and whereas the month of the military child provides an opportunity for every american to show our appreciation and gratitude to our youngest warriors the military child who also serves donate volunteer do something to show support one way to celebrate the military child is by wearing the color purple for the month of april purple highlights all branches of service now therefore be it resolved that avet project hereby proclaims we must all honor april as the month of the military child we ask the people of the united states to honor military children everywhere with appropriate ceremonies and activities done ordered and adopted in regular session the 17th day of march 2026 and with that mr chair i'll make a motion second second any discussion all those favorite yes go ahead i would just like to say from a mom of three military kids thank you guys so much for what you do okay all right and uh you're welcome to to address the board and all those in favor of the military kids thank you guys so much for what you do okay all right and uh you're welcome to to address the board and all those in favor of the military child good morning commissioners good morning everyone on behalf of avet project and all the brave men and women we serve we want to say thank you so much for this proclamation which recognizes sacrifices of our military children as their parents fight for this great nation as a military child myself and then a veteran and now a proud parent of a veteran i can tell you firsthand and testify that the sacrifice never ends it continues it continues in 1986 secretary defense casper weinberger declared april as the month of the military child and this proclamation here today is proof that weinberger's legacy continues once again on behalf of age bed project and all the veterans here in brevard county we would like to say thank you and all the on behalf of all the military children as well thank you so much i have a resolution for you all okay thank you for being here next item item f consent agenda and the entire consent agenda will be passed in one motion which includes includes everything under the paragraph f unless someone wishes to pull something off and then we'll have discussion to vote yeah i would like to pull f4 f6 and f10 please f4 f6 f10 okay all right is there a motion for the consent agenda with the exception of f4 6 and 10 so moved motion second all in favor say aye aye motion carries okay f4 approval transportation impact fee technical advisory committee for south mainland benefit district district project fund recommendation district 3 i think i read the wrong one and i did approval amendment contract for excella inc to include permit hub digital plan room thank you um before we take action on this i'd like to ask staff to provide an overview of the e-permit hub including how it will streamline the planning review process improve productivity and reduce costs associated with manual handling of the digital signatures and large project files a good morning board um yeah this is a request to amend the existing excella contract of the board authorized in 2024 which was to upgrade and modernize the county's implementation of excella this request is now to include e-permit hub in that soft in that software which excel has acquired in the interim between when the board approved the contract in 2024 and now um this would be used 100 percent uh building permitting fee revenue so no general fund allocation is necessary it is there is also no associated fee increase necessary or anything like that this will be done with the existing budget the same was true of the underlying contract so essentially time is of the essence to all parties in the permitting world um and also accuracy is essential and it's staff's judgment that um this this software this plug into our software would vastly help on both of those fronts um the and ultimately the county controls to excel over three million records um we deal with 33 000 records annually new records annually and by record i don't mean a single document that's 33 000 different records as a number overall record number in excel so it's it's it's kind of the backbone of the bevard county development uh as far as our processes and things like that so we believe that it will help us take truly modernize our platform and be a benefit for the public who wants their projects done as quickly as possible and as accurately as possible the builders are in the same place and those and our staff who you know we want to spend as much time substantive building code rather than technical things like checking signatures this will allow them to spend their time on the things that are most impactful to everybody thank you and um the uh would you go into a little bit about why we're choosing this um product versus other products well we we had initially looked at a few different plan review softwares pre-excello acquiring eperma hub the other competitors we looked at uh for a couple different reasons they weren't we didn't look at them as uh as superior to this product uh first they didn't integrate into excel if at all nearly as well and they'd also didn't deal with the way the forda building code implements digital signatures and that's really truly critical for us again if we're going to use this to generate efficiency we want the program to be doing as much of that technical work and it has to understand for lack of a better term how florida does uh those kinds of things because we have unique administrative requirements and they excella has done a very good job it seems of implementing those to automate that and by the way we do have a representative from excella here today if you have if you have any questions for him cool so basically this is going to speed up the processes make it more efficient and um more accurate and this is going to be the best bang for our buck as far as software goes i believe so commissioner awesome okay do we have any other discussions i don't make a motion to approve second so motion and second to approve all in favor say aye okay now we have f6 approval standardization of single source of detention door access control system and cell door thank you um i i pulled this item because i just figured this is um not really a super routine thing um but i just wanted to highlight that we are making improvements to our jail and um to make make sure that it's a safer environment and whatnot and with that mark if you wouldn't mind giving a presentation good morning board so this is uh standardization requests and single source for detention door access control system and cell doors under a previous contract we did approximately 290 plus doors these are high security doors that go back to a nerve center so that this way the sheriff's department at uh remote locations can control open and and uh close them and so uh that both the nerve center as well as the doors are um owned by mti control systems and mts which is uh montgomery technology systems is a subsidiary and so they have a proprietary system so it is in our best interest uh to standardize this as the system for the jail and then uh be able to do a change order to the contract and with that with that i'd like to make a motion to approve i'll second motion second all in favor say aye aye motion carries next item is excuse me is f10 approval requests uh the board of county commissioners approve a recommendation to provide five thousand nine hundred and eight forty six hundred forty dollars in funding for opioid abatement services with them of our county five million five million did i say thousand let's say five million nine hundred and eight thousand okay all right we do have cards but let's go ahead and discuss the item first and we'll hear the cards thank you i um i pulled this item from the consent agenda to provide a little bit more um transparency before the board takes action on this item i know that this is um this is a significant um amount of money and um i just figured that it's it's a great thing we're putting resources out there to help um the serious need that we got through settlement funds um and i just wanted to uh make sure that we talked about it so that people know that this is happening and um that that the settlement money is moving and it's going towards um you know organizations that are going to go and help with opioid addiction with that wanita good morning commissioners item f10 is requesting the board to approve recommendations of the together in partnership recommendation committee to provide 5.9 million in funding to the opioid abatement services purchasing services release the opioid misuse abatement funding request or rfa housing and purchasing held a mandatory pre-proposal meeting after the closing date 21 applications move forward to the tip recommendation subcommittee on november 21st the tip recommendation subcommittee voted to recommend funding to the following agencies 2 million to circles of care to provide jail-based medication assistant treatment for incarcerated adults with opioid use disorder to reduce opioid related mortality prevent overdose overdose 1.7 million circles of care also circles will expand and enhance existing medication assisted treatment services in brevard county 780 000 to steps or specialized treatment education and prevention services steps will provide access to brevard county indigent residents to participate in a drug court program um which will address those that are incarcerated and um address repeat offenders coming back and then 785 000 in steps living room project which will primarily target adult indigent brevard county residents in need of access to care steps will increase access to behavioral health support by providing wraparound services services and linkages to care i haven't had my full coffee this morning um 597 000 recovery connection of central florida or rccf will serve individuals seeking assistance for themselves or families related to the use of opioids and other substances and they will focus on individuals transitioning from treatment facilities and chairman thank you um logan would you put up that um so that is all of the requests that we've gotten and and um i just wanted to to highlight this because it shows the the serious need that we have in our community and um juanita i didn't know if you wouldn't mind going into a little bit more the process that you guys went through and the possible changes that are um that are possible moving forward yes absolutely so what you see up here on the screen those are the 21 applications that was that were received in and the review committee they made a recommendation of three areas of concentration the opioid settlement dollars can only be spent on approved uses through the state abatement program so the three areas of concentration were to support people in their treatment and recovery address the needs of criminal justice involved persons prevent misuse of opioids and then all other areas of concentration which is inclusive of again those approved uses from the state there was a um there was a um so again after the recommendations committee put out those four areas it went to the review committee and then the review committee reviewed all 21 applications and made the recommendation of the four that we have before you thank you so much and did the committee did they talk about doing stuff a little bit differently going forward yes so going forward which it was discussed and when we meet again the um agencies that receive funding this round is a discussion that next round they would be excluding excluded from applying for the opioid dollars so then we can spread out the dollars into those other areas that did not receive funding this time thank you okay we have uh three cards two for questions only uh steven lord of circles of care and jeremy weiss laura mccarthy would like to speak i believe good morning my name is laura mccarthy and uh in 2023 the president of the united states awarded me the lifetime achievement award for volunteerism for over 5 000 hours in 2023 dedicated to volunteering my services specifically to this topic of opioid misuse i have been serving the opioid misuse task force of brevard county since 2018 i'm an editor of the one of many editors of the original abatement plan that sat before the county that was done as a gift to the county by our organization because it was truly originally designed by state statute to be developed by the county i'm also the founder of the brevard recovery fest which is an action item that came out of the task force in 2021 whose mission is to end the stigma of addictions and mental health in brevard county and we are the largest collaborative effort of providing a platform for all of our providers to showcase their services so people can survive i have been watching this process from the beginning as a tip member and i am an at-large member of tip i would like to read the following executive summary of the events as outlined by one of our members who is unable to be here today brevard county issued four separate rfas rfa 526-01-02-03-04 each targets a distinct priority those priorities were listed earlier applicants reasonably understood that each rfa represented a separate funding category and expected intra-category competition instead during the public scoring meeting the county staff instructed the recommendation committee to treat all applications as a single pool and ranked uniformly and funds sequentially from the top down with no discretion for category balance and no ability to reduce awards as a result two of the counties declared priority categories prevention and treatment and recovery received no funding prevention or tentatively disappropriate and ineffectually treatment and recovery portion funding defeating the very purpose of issuing separate rfas state statute 287 clearly states that if you set out four separate rfas they need to be scored procured and ranked according to four separate rfas the county did not do that that is the process that we would ask that it get corrected in the next time we do this and we do ask that the funds be released we've been waiting over a year for these funds and we're ready to spend that money thank you for hearing my report okay thank you so much do you have a comment or a question please i um if if possible if we have the a couple of the groups that are receiving some of the money i would love to hear what um what your plans are what um your organizations will be doing with the money i'm not sure if the cards that um we're here for questions if they're available you don't have to only if you're only if you want to i'm i just felt like otherwise i'd like to make a motion to approve okay there's a motion is there a second i'll second okay uh motion second to approve uh i just have a little bit of discussion i'm sorry i um this was not to uh obviously we we want to disperse this money um and so this was not meant to be a negative something it was meant to bring light to this and have these organizations share what they're doing for our community so it was not meant in in any negative way um so i'm just i'm surprised that we're not going to let the organizations um share what good work they're about to do in our community so that's all okay all in favor say aye aye motion carries okay um we we we did uh have a card on f5 general jordan jordan had a card is he still here did you want to speak i'm sorry i overlooked that well you approved it so um we would we would just like to maybe talk to the public work staff that's working just to see the details you can say a few words i got it mixed up with a public comment that's okay uh gerald jordan resident of palmetto subdivision and um retired military um we would just like just to maybe get a point of contact inside of the public works department just to look over the details of the plan just to make sure they align with the request that we originally gave to um tom goodson commissioner goodson at his office so but we are thankful you guys did find the funding and worked out all of the issues behind this little project because it will we think save a little lives and hopefully we have a follow-on project with dot that we can get them to change their mind on where to put their red light so but i we appreciate you guys help and support on that i have a question mark is that an easy answer that we could answer right now or um i can't tell where mark is oh there he is so the the project is uh there's about a 40 foot uh linear uh 40 or linear foot um uh grass area between glenridge view circle and via de la reina and so in discussions with uh the district two commissioner and fdot uh in preparation for the north courtney project uh we are going to be connecting that uh with a roadway uh do the appropriate drainage um and so this will enable residents that uh will be precluded from making a left-hand turn on north courtney once the divider project goes in uh they'll now have a way to do that uh so we've coordinated this with fdot and in fact fdot is funding the project uh for us to execute does that answer your question that's partially but um i'll i'll now i know who it is i'll talk to mark afterwards and just talk there's just one we don't have a problem with the funding we appreciate it so we just have a little little question about if we can make a left turn on to villa darina and that would call for moving the median out which was our original quest to tom goodson but i don't want to stop the project because we've got some motion moving forward so i thank you for the funding so i'm not going to tit for tat for that little piece if that's not possible sir i i would encourage you to call florida department of transportation mr sheriff you allow me just for a sec they'll be able to better answer maybe that when when it comes to medians okay i'm talking some of the median located on village arena that once we do this opening at um glenridge circle and villa darina that may be part of the whole design part of the and that's why i said i didn't want to bog down the details here i just want to get a point to contact and let's go back with with that with um the the worker bees okay thank you sir appreciate it you guys have a great day thank you so much let's have a vote on f5 just just i'll make a motion to approve second motion second on f5 any discussion all in favor say aye aye motion motion carries okay we will proceed to item g public comment and we do have one card i think one card for public comment rick uh health finger halfley half left half finger rick half finger two thousand juniper drive district one um i wanted to come up actually i was wanting to come up later on an agenda item um that my commissioner has on that i have a strong passion for about uh getting some visibility into the cost of some of the stuff we do under consent because i don't know if anybody here's added it all up uh i was shocked to find there's 27 million 674 dollars worth of decisions that you just approved or made some of that stuff we don't care about as taxpayers because it comes from the state but it's also kind of nice to know what does come from the state and where these things come from but to know those numbers may may flag me to say hey man i should i should dig into that a little more so that helps me to do that i don't know if you have a total that's different than mine but well no but if you're speaking to an agenda item we need to call him up during the agenda item not during consent i'm not going to be able to be here later i have a doctor's appointment so i wanted to this is kind of a comment on all the stuff you just did in our consent so the agenda item is f1 through if you want to look at it that way um i also think that that i support the this this the agent the consent having values is because that lets the taxpayer know but i think it also would inspire you guys and just a quick look at i mean i had to go to find out what the cost was i had to dig through the the uh agenda items on um what do we call that program that's each one of the files to dig out and there's a specific column there called uh fiscal impact but to be able to see that and know that i wanted to come down or do some research would be extremely helpful to me and i i think it also would hopefully elicit some discussions questions and concerns from the board because i saw katie pull a few of those and sometimes we feel like and it does a good job to also illustrate the good things you do for the community like the opioid thing so i think that's nice to know that we we are we are funding that effort i don't know what the total of the opioid funding was but that's a big number and i and i like to see that get used um so a lot of big items i mean so i i think it's a good idea for that item later so i just like to state my support since i might not be here for that thank you very much okay that is our public comment section of the agenda we move on to our public hearings first is h1 all right h1 is an ordinance um revising chapter 14 article 2 of the brevard county code to update the code to reflect changes made by the legislature to chapter 767 of florida statutes regarding dangerous dogs last year the legislature passed the pamrock act named in honor of the mail carrier who was tragically mauled by dogs in 2022 the amendments provide for a definition of what's known as the dunbar bite scale which is used to determine the severity of dog bites it requires for dangerous dogs to be implanted with a microchip previously there was an option for tattooing it provides that dogs who have killed a human being or made certain severe bite marks to a person be confiscated by animal services and held pending the outcome of the investigation and hearing without provision for release and for other updates to dangerous dog hearing procedures additionally the amendments provide for increased criminal penalties for the owners of dogs that attack an animal or human again after being declared dangerous and once again these are required changes to come into compliance and to be consistent with the changes made by the legislature to chapter 767 okay i remember when this issue came before the legislature i think it took a few years that passed it was a horrendous attack and um i think the state did a really good job of trying to protect the public and also allowing for local governments to be involved do we have any we have no cards on this we have any comments or discussion on the matter so we have no public input a motion for the approval of the ordinance would be in order so moved it's a motion and i'll second second all in discussion all in favor say aye aye aye aye aye carries unanimous let's move down to j1 development environmental services group good morning again board j1 is a contract for sale and purchase an addendum from mr torrell this is for the wastewater treatment plant down off of mico in district 3 uh the purchase would be five million dollars for approximately uh for 80 acres and uh this is part of a larger project for the utilities uh department in which um there are two other uh pieces of land that are contemplated or will be contemplated in subsequent uh actions okay i don't think we have any cards on this item any discussion on j1 motion i'd like to make a motion to approve i'll second it's motion second to approve um sorry i was yielding to you all in favor say aye aye aye aye aye motion carries unanimously okay um j2 but it's yours good morning commissioners item j2 is a request for the board to provide staff direction regarding allocations of additional special district and mstu funds that were generated when the board increased those this past year's budget cycle the board has four options for each funding source the board has four options for each funding source option one would allow for the projects that were cut in the previous year's budget cycle to be returned as well as some additional projects that have been identified by the department excuse me option two would allow for those projects to be returned and then the additional revenue from those special districts to be offset with cuts to general fund for reallocation by the board option three would allow for a total reallocation of general fund for all those funding sources except the south recreation district which actually has less general fund available than what is generated by that special district fund so the board would also have to allocate approximately 1.6 million in that option three for the south brevard special recreation district and then option four would be any other direction that the board provides we would ask that you provide an option for each of the funding sources okay thank you do we have any i don't think we have any cards cards okay do i i prefer option one just for my vote so just the board knows um i think it's up to the board to decide how we want to allocate the these dollars i think i'm just gonna bring it sir may mr chair i'm gonna bring up something that um you know for the county's had a goal in resurfacing roads um and you know i think we do a really good job of preservation mode and that's the that's the cheaper way at at this um point in time is is to preserve what we have and uh i think we had to cut some of that back in the in the last budget and if we could restore it and i'd have to ask um i know mark might not have been ready with this but i i think we were to to get us to the number of miles of road that we've resurfaced in the prior years we were somewhere in that three and a half three point eight million dollars does that sound right okay that that would be where i i would want to go to to to restore that so restoring money to the general fund so that public works could um resurface those roads that would be my master yes so my thought is along those lines as well i like two because we get to um put the money in parks uh but we also get to put some money back in the general fund and i think roads is is pretty significant a billion and a half that goes back to general fund could be used for something like that um that's how i feel i like too because it can sort of give a little bit to both well i i'd be willing to sort of split that option um if that's where the board goes with with the idea that the that 1.5 going back to general fund that we we put toward the road resurfacing i would be comfortable with that i think that's a pragmatic thing to do i um i would have to agree with that i think that there's um a couple of things you know that are important to to my district and so i i was leaning more towards option two as well um so that's um that's so if i made a motion for um option two with the 1.504 before we do a motion i'd like to have more discussion if we could i know commissioner goodson is on the phone and want to hear his input if he has a strong opinion yeah but i'm chair i could do it for the option two okay i i chose option one i felt that um we got a lot of funding funding sources for roads but parks are pretty limited to uh our general fund and i think from a quality of life point of view um especially for kids young people that parks have a high priority but obviously i am out but voted here i think well as i am and at least two has both i was really just asking the question to clarify if i made a motion that we did option two with the 1.504 410 general fund going back to general fund that we in the same motion we allocate that toward the resurfacing of the roads shortfall um for this year yes i would second that if you made that motion okay sir with yes i'm going to go ahead and make that motion and i'm going to second it okay it's a motion second uh any discussion all in favor say aye aye motion carries aye i hear goodson i think sorry about that okay all right we will move forward to j3 resolution authorizing the issue of non-avalorum refunding revenue bond series 2026 we have no cards all right good morning mr chair and chair commissioners this item is a request to refund the county's local option fuel tax bond series 2016 with the issuance of brevard county florida non-avalorum revenue refunding bond series 2026 not exceeding 50 million dollars in aggregate principle and a present value savings of at least four percent and delegate authority to the chair to execute the resolution and various closing documents related to the issuance of series 2026 bonds and authorize the county manager to approve all necessary budget amendments to implement this requested change it is estimated that under the current market conditions the county will save approximately 2.7 million dollars in net present value savings in debt service which the public works department will realize a reduction in annual debt service payments of approximately 220 262 million dollars through the final maturity in 2037 okay do we have any questions any discussion is there a motion i'd like to make a motion to approve we have a motion second motion second to approve discussion all in favor say aye aye motion carries unanimously okay we'll move on to j2 legislative intent and permission to advertise an ordinance related to county's optional vessel registration fee j3 that's j4 j4 i'm sorry did i say j3 j3 j4 legislative intent vessel registration i think we have staff is going to j4 j4 is actually mine sir oh is that yours okay good so if you guys will bear with me just a second all right my staff made me some handouts that i wanted to share with you my book will cooperate thank you so if you pass a few down that way commissioner that one's mine if you can pass those that way that would be great so if you bear with me a few minutes we've put a lot of work into this so i kind of have a lot to say um we're a water county we have natural bodies of water everywhere um so we have a really strong boating community and members of the boating community have approached me regarding concerns about the condition and accessibility of our boating infrastructure primarily boat ramps so the first purpose of this item is to better understand the condition and potential improvements our boating infrastructure as well as take steps to address the matter as it stands right now we haven't done a study in almost 20 years a boating related study so while the recommendations of the previous study might still be valid it's important i think for us to make sure that the information is updated and reflects our current conditions so the study would allow for an objective review of current boat launch capacity location and condition relative to the demand and offer suggestions for improvements these improvements would include launches parking boat ramp locations and improving and adding boat ramp amenities a more comprehensive understanding of the need as well as the feasibility of the improvements will allow the board to make a best decision for the good of our community the brevard boating improvement program the bbip which is funding uses using the county share of the vessel registration fee currently has approximately 1.9 million dollars in reserves of this 195 000 are not committed some of these funds could be used to pay for the study as long as the study is limited to the following things providing maintaining or operating recreational channel marking and other uniform waterway markers public boat ramps lifts and hoists marine railways boat piers docks mooring buoys and other public launch facilities removing derelict vessels and debris that specifically impedes boat access not including dredging and removing vessels and floating structures deemed a hazard to public safety and health the second component of this item is legislative intent and permission to advertise an ordinance imposing the optional county vessel registration fee there's no reason to do the study or figure out the problems and identify the solutions if we can't pay to fix it pursuant to fss 328.66 this fee can be utilized for the patrol regulation and maintenance of lakes rivers waters and for other boating related projects located within the county if imposed this fee is estimated to generate over 466 000 annually that could be added to the approximate 166 000 the bbip currently receives this will be recurring funds this fee is added directly to the annual vessel registration cost and varies depending on the vessel class the annual fee increase ranges from two dollars and 75 cents for vessels that are less than 12 feet to 94 for vessels that are over 110 feet if you look at your chart you see that the largest class of boaters that we have we have over 19 000 between 16 and 26 feet their fee would increase by 14 and 38 cents per year the county would receive 13 and 38 cents because the first dollar of the optional county fee goes to the save the manatee fund this increase will not affect those people who currently are exempt from the registration fee so once the results of the study are available and the parks advisory boards and marine advisory council have had an opportunity to form their recommendations the boating community will be able to review the benefits and voice their opinion on these user fees from the conversation that i've had the general consensus is that the fee is acceptable if it means access to water and enjoying their boats will improve so that's my explanation the question yes um i i too have heard um of people coming to me saying that you know they'd like to see some improvements and um some of our boat boat laundries and whatnot so i think that this is definitely um a good idea and i appreciate you bringing this forward um i had a question about the study and is that something that we are required that our staff could do or do we have to go for a consultant for that maybe jim is the right person to ask i would say jim is probably the right person to ask about that um based off of what i've done previously i think you would want to get a consultant it's just the staff time to get it all done and you want a neutral party to handling it so and what jim around what do you think a consultant will cost for a study like this it might uh i just lost ian uh i think our discussion was 50 60 000 and we have money in the boating the bbip the boating improvement program to be able to pay for that study and it's an eligible expense out of those funds and do we know about how long that study will take that i don't know i'm sure six nine months that's a bit of a swag but yeah i would hate it to be that long yeah yeah i know so that's that i don't have the answer i'm just that's why i swag it for you yeah probably a good good idea though because uh what's the old adage measure twice cut once and i've come in the commission for bringing this up it's fascinating and i'm interested we only have five vessels over 110 feet i know i was surprised i would have thought that uh we'd have had more yeah so so i understand so this graph yep it is interesting so i'm going to look at the five the vessels over 100 feet that's interesting there's only five so the current fee registration is 193 am i reading that correct yes they can get a discount if they have met certain things like equipment on their boat i don't exactly understand it so they would either be without the discount 193 and with this discount would be 144 and then the additional county optional fee would be 94 exactly okay good yeah okay i'm sorry is that one of your boats that you said you have enough i have i avoid boats in fact i i went and took a tour of a cruise ship just uh just so i can say that i've done so um i do have a question for staff though if i could mr chair um i don't understand that we need to do a study for this or should do a study for this but we didn't do that for stormwater i voted against stormwater so honestly i don't have an answer for you but it's two different funding sources two different sets of regulations would probably be the difference there i think in prior years when the board has uh increased stormwater fees there there was a corresponding study i mean there's an existing study for stormwater fees okay well i appreciate what you're trying to do but i'm i'm not going to be there today so thanks well with that i'd like to make a motion to direct staff to prepare an rfp for a boating infrastructure study limited to the authorized uses of the bbip funds to be approved by the board no later than may 5th 2026 regular meeting and for legislative intent and permission to advertise an ordinance imposing the optional county vessel registration fee to be brought back to the board along with the results of the study and after being heard by the parks advisory board and the marine advisory council i have a question okay there's a motion on the table we have a question do we have a second on the motion though before following plummet procedure we have a motion we i'll um second to get us to discussion okay if that's okay um commissioner feltner would you mind sharing a little bit your concerns i think when uh what was done with this with the stormwater um and that happened i think that happened pretty quick with the um getting rid of the design credit um that affected district four disproportionately uh much i mean the disparity between what district four voters will will pay and that is is extreme compared to the other districts and so in that moment i realized what was happening and i and i voted against it um most of uh i mean if you just think of this zip code by the way i mean it has stormwater retention everywhere and that's that's why those design credits um uh exist and that's why i voted against it but there wasn't there wasn't a i don't think there was a corresponding study um for those increases so that's so my thought if i'm hearing you you're more opposed to the study not so much opposed to the increase of the i'm wondering why why a study is why a study would be done for this and i'm not totally certain or we're certain that you have to do one but uh before raising the stormwater fees there there wasn't a study i'm just i mean that's a technical matter mr chair may i yes so jim is it is it possible to not do the study follow the guidelines of the old study from 20 years ago um or the recommendations of staff because i'm not stuck on the study necessarily stalling a little um to be honest the study is study is 20 years old um i i'm sure if yeah if if i if i may um like jim said the study is quite old um i don't know what the change in land that's underneath the parks and recreation department as our assets have changed in those 20 years so i don't know if there's other assets that have come into the department that could be developed into the future which would be a part of what this study would be looking at you know i suppose also the fact that this county has changed so much where people live over 20 years it it might be important to know who's using what where yeah i have a question yes um is this something and i know that time is you know an issue but is this something that our staff has the expertise on so we could potentially look at usage rates a lot of it will be anecdotal um we look at the current inventory but again some of the engineering we don't do in-house some a lot of those design type questions we go out and we have you know engineering firms that do that for us um that being said we could probably get a rough idea of what's potentially developable but i don't know that we could come up with a good cost estimate would natural resources be able to help in that capacity i think that'd be a question for virginia but i would say that they a lot of the stuff that's allowed underneath this statute is not something that you know they don't they don't build docks they don't build ramps at least i don't think you do and i jump in there they're actually short a couple engineers right now to get their own projects done just just a thought for the board uh if you could proceed with legislative intent with the study and uh we'll research if we don't need the study then we can come back to the board and say we don't need the study i like that and then i would like commissioners if you would like to add to the agenda item if you can let us obligate the unused funds for the bbip to pay for the study at least they have that motion in there then we get the bcr but we'll research and come back if the board agrees to it if we don't need the study then we'll bring back and tell you we don't need the study i could be in favor of that yep does anybody want to help me put that motion together with all of those bits and pieces my recommendation you're fine legislative intent that you had with the study and if we if we don't need the study we as staff will bring that back to you to let you know that's not needed because i i'm no attorney but the legislative intent should cover that okay i'd like to amend my motion to include county manager's suggestion second okay there's a motion and a second any discussion all those in favor say aye aye aye opposed nay we have uh one negative commissioner feltner um okay good i am so embarrassed i apologize to everyone out there nope sorry this is j5 we're still good i'm not in trouble yet oh we didn't have any cards no we did not okay we have um item j5 speak up brevard 2026 citizen efficiency and effectiveness recommendations submitter presentation not a question more of a technical question don't we have a policy on this didn't the board come up with a procedure by which how we would have these presentations the board took action at a prior meeting to state that the board would schedule a time certain to receive the sears and presentations from citizens give citizens five minutes for each presentation and decline to schedule a workshop to hear separately from the citizens on these sears so that's the board's procedure and i have we selected the meeting date yet i know it was going to be in may the meeting date well it's it's in my it's in may probably the it's either the first or second meeting so we'll be done with we'll have the reports back to the board the deadline is 90 days is may 1st we'll have it before then and that's consistent with the charter and the board's adopted policy that we receive the sears staff prepares analysis and recommendations on those then the board hears them and has to act on each sear at a board meeting so we have we done that have we staff we're currently going through all the sear responses so so we're working on it if i could chime in i the reason why i brought this forward was because i don't feel comfortable um hearing from the citizens and in that moment having to make a off-the-cuff decision um and you know of course if it's something that's an emergency we have to do that but i don't feel that this is an emergency and um frankly if this was against the rules i would have thought morris or jim would have said something and you know between the briefings between the conversations we have between all of these different things and all these people showed up here today we have all these cards and to not hear this item it just would be such a disservice to the public in my opinion yes so i just want to make sure i understand um if presenters do come up and present to us we can't do well we can only consider what they've written in this year which is currently being looked at by staff so no matter what they might say here it doesn't affect or change what they've written is that accurate that's what the chart provides and what the policy provides okay isn't it isn't it though that that's that's the staff recommendations can only respond based on what's written not the board can make any decision we want based on whatever we want well the board has to make and take an action on the formal written recommendation that's submitted the charter compels that but it does not disclude the comments that commenters make of course can you is it how long is the charter language could you read that to us so we can know exactly because unlike a lot of this is something that's set forth in charter the process by which we follow board of county commissioners shall develop procedures that will provide a mechanism for an individual or an organized group of individuals to submit a formal written recommendation for the enhancement of the effectiveness and efficiency of county government to the county commission on an annual basis the county commission's procedures shall include the following provisions an annual filing date the written recommendation shall be reviewed by the county commission and following the review the county commission shall vote to either accept the recommendation accept the recommendation with revisions or reject the recommendation and the county commission's final vote and consideration of the recommended recommendation shall occur no later than 120 days after receipt of the written recommendation and then the board has adopted a policy implementing those requirements but the board can always act on citizen requests that they make during public comment or through commission offices but this process was enacted specifically to provide a formal written recommendation mechanism and for the board to take action on those written recommendations so we have a procedure by which the board is established that we follow this is something over beyond the procedure that we have i'm going to turn to the board whether we want to change our process and hear these hear these recommendations and in fact we'll be hearing them twice we would hear them now and then we would have the the staff go through the written procedures by which and then they would make recommendations and i assume we'd have to hear them again under the charter the policy allows and under sunshine they would be allowed to comment at the meeting the board considers it but this this board specifically decided very recently that you would receive presentations from the citizens at that meeting in may right and that you would provide a time certain for that master yes commissioner so i apologize to all the people who came here thinking that you would present um to us but i would like to make a motion to table this to the may 5th meeting um at 6 p.m where everybody's going to get five minutes to actually do their presentation that's my motion there's a motion in the second discussion i think i might add to that um it would be in a scheduled item on the agenda and we'd have the benefit of reading the recommendations as well as the technical review from staff so we'd be in a much better position to make a decision and it's not like we hear them and then boom we have to make we will see these we'll see these well ahead of schedule and be prepared to ask questions yeah can i ask i do have a technical question though just just in general but go ahead no i i have a technical question also do do we have to vote at that meeting when the presentations happen or could could we have the presentations at the first meeting and we vote on the items at the second meeting um if if there's a concern that there's not enough time in that moment when people are presenting uh you know with enough time to think about it before they uh a commissioner votes is it is it to be voted at at that same meeting you can as long as it happens within 120 days under the charter and you would probably want to make clear at the first meeting that you've closed the comment portion of the meeting so that you don't by having a second meeting then have the same presentations again i'm i mean i'm not opposed to that if that if that makes uh better for you the amount of time between the presentation to the the time that you're voting um i think we're going to have the information and the staff um and comment comments and everything by that meeting that we where they have the time certain come uh you know speak on their item so i i feel like i will be ready at that time but if if that's the pleasure of the board uh to to vote at a separate time i'm open to that too i i think same day is is not i i think that if it's you know um if it's the same day it really doesn't matter that piece of it i the thing for me is that i really feel passionate that these staff recommended or these um presentations um are are made visible and public and you know um like i've said before when i was advocating for the workshop you know some people are more um are better communicators when they have an opportunity to speak versus writing something down and so i was just trying to make this program as accessible and um open to the public as possible uh which is what the intention was and nowhere in the charter does it say only um and that we can't expand upon the the um the the inclusion of our citizens so that that argument is just outrageous to me and um can i say something on that just real quick i don't mean to interrupt you but when i think you're on the on the item and then because we have to take some action on it and you want to sort of amend it i mean i i don't i don't see why the board can't do that in that moment so the board can accept accept with revisions or reject a recommendation i in my mind that that sounds like in that but the board must consider the written recommendation okay okay but it doesn't say it can't it can't um think about the oral presentations as well there's nothing in there that says that we can't make this program i don't disagree with you okay thank you i i i don't disagree with you and that's why i'm saying i i think in that moment um you you could amend um when i suggested and i had terrible cold i didn't want to give the rest of you um and i was i was calling in on zoom i suggested the time certain so that no matter what happens in the meeting and i just that's just an efficiency thing so separate from the workshop we in in short we're basically doing the workshop in a commission meeting so we're all here and we're going to do it and they can i think we agreed that they could come up and they'd have five minutes um instead of three on um each of their items so some of these things are pretty complex though so it's you know the idea to only have that that you know few minutes to think you know through all of the things um you know it's just why wouldn't we want more opportunity to come to the best um outcome if i may sir i think that the the point of what i'm saying is it's not efficient to hear them here and hear them again primarily for my opinion is because i'm not prepared right this second i don't have good questions to ask where when we hear you on the fifth i will have been able to prepare questions on your items i will have already made it my business to go through it see what staff's thoughts are see what my thoughts are clarify it with you while you're standing there in front of me right now you'll just be saying things twice right now what the people could do is is tell us their presentation we could you know think about it write notes and have you know a few days to think about what their suggestions are and have time to mull over it it's it's not we're we're not voting on anything with this this is just for us to get more a better idea of what the citizens are asking of us i think another issue is that we as abidee had a lot of deliberation and discussion about this and developed a very specific procedure and this flies in the face of that the question i have is a couple two two ten questions um one um since this first first of all um technically any one of these individuals could have given the presentations during the public hearing part of our our meeting and they still can and they still can if they sign up so we do provide for that in the public meeting it's not in the not even the body of the formal secondly um this is not under the public hearing part of our agenda what do we allow in terms of time per card what is our procedure is that is that well this is this is a normal agenda item you typically allow three minutes um per card in this case though that is that is when people speak to the proposal that's on the agenda and the proposal that is on the agenda is that the board receive presentations so people could speak during this item on whether or not the board should receive presentations but they could only give the presentations if the board voted to give special dispensation to to receive the presentations otherwise they can speak during public comment about any item that's not on the agenda i think this would have been probably more appropriate in public can i ask one more technical question sir um when they're doing presentations at our time certain uh time and date uh will they will they send that as a as a powerpoint potentially that would go into the packet with all the rest of the the seer information or how does that work they will have that ability but that's up to them if they wish to do a powerpoint presentation they have to submit it in advance of the meeting so it can be reviewed for propriety for presentation at a live meeting and broadcast 24 hours is the policy 24 hours minimum if it's 24 hours it certainly won't be part of any packet okay well not for nothing i mean i think that would be beneficial for the commissioners if you for anyone who's uh doing a seer that they send information early there's there's nothing that uh precludes you from doing that now you can you can send things to commissioners i i'm i like what i had suggested before the time certain i think that's the um everyone's going to know because i'm not sure how many people here are today versus how many people submitted a seer 66 or 66 people submitted this year i don't know how many people well seers there were multiple yeah okay 40 people submitted 66 seers okay understood but they're not all here here today correct um yeah no another question i have just technically um because we haven't talked when we have the formal seer presentations how much time are we allowing for those or do we need to set that in policy the board previously stated that it would be five minutes per speaker on each seer okay okay in in the future if if this comes up again i would appreciate our county manager and county attorney to say something prior to a board meeting i think this is completely inappropriate and um you know this is this is part of your job and throwing one of your commissioners under the bus is not part of your job so i would appreciate that in the future let's just a second and commissioner i understand i let me take the burden on that we're not allowed to talk they're professionals morris is a lawyer this is something that's more of a board decision no and um because you guys are going into the technicality of this decision and so if it's if it's a technical something then we should i should have been apprised of that from morris or jim and so i'm just gonna say that that's if we're gonna throw commissioner delaney under the bus then i publicly i'm going to say i don't appreciate this and i would ask for um a heads up next time this is not a staff thing this is purely our commission deciding nope that's not according to your guys's arguments that is very important and something's in our charter okay we have a motion a second is there any discussion on on the uh no discussion all in favor say aye aye opposed nay uh passes four to one commissioner delaney voting against and anyone would like to speak still you can sign up during our k portion of public comments but we do want to hear from you and we want to follow the procedure that the board has established and uh and this will give us time to give you due diligence okay um item j no no public comment you can sign up and if you would like this right no because it was tabled but you can speak during public comment on your seer item if you'd like to it was a motion to table to me okay thank you okay j6 improving agenda transparency through financial disclosure we do have uh three one two three four cards thank you um logan is there any way you could pull up slide number three and if you wouldn't mind keeping it up during my um introduction awesome thank you um i'm bringing this item forward as a follow-up to our uh 2025 citizens efficiency and effectiveness recommendation or seer and as part of my ongoing commitment to improve transparency and how this board conducts its business so that residents can get more uh easily informed on board business one of the concerns that residents have shared is that it can be difficult to follow um public how public funds are being allocated during our meetings particular particularly when items are included on the consent agenda where multiple items are approved together in a single vote typically without much or any discussion currently the dollar amounts associated with those items are not generally read aloud into the record and they are not included in the printed agenda descriptions that citizens in the room often rely on when following the meeting so basically when the when residents come in it could be their first meeting they grab our agenda and it tells them basically nothing you know it just gives a short title but besides that you're not really informed on what business we're doing and before we discuss the proposed changes i'd ask staff to pull a couple short clips from nearby municipalities to show how other governments handle this and logan would you mind showing the um the titusville clip city manager sort of moving on to item eight consent we have eight items on the agenda do any members of council wish to pull any of those items for discussion uh yes i'd like to uh pull um 8e the brackish water discussion 80 any other items council see none city manager sir i'll go ahead and read 8a student advisory council scholarship policy expenditure 8b contract with edgewater group llc for professional engineering design services for the titusville marina hurricane repair project 8c the property donation of lot 5 block 45 of sun valley subdivision 8d space coast health foundation grant to purchase hand devi pediatric system from pediatric emergency standards incorporated 8f the limited bidding and construction services for the blue heron filter project 8g task order wpto 004 for knox mccray master pump station project for bidding and construction services and 8h the first amendment to tender and release agreement thank you very much city clerk um so i won't play the other clip we have um there's there's more from coco beach the city of coco um a lot of the different municipalities they do things a little bit different here or there but they i really like the idea of um putting it out for the record what business we are um conducting in that consent agenda and it would be nice if we could read the dollar amounts associated with those items as well so that all that information could be there um oh and also uh logan if you wouldn't mind going to slide four so these are a couple examples of um the city of titusville and the city of coco and their agenda and what it looks like and it shows a short description and it has a dollar amount in there so that when the residents are looking through the you know three or four page agenda all the all the pertinent information is right there and that way they don't have to do a deep dive of every item to see if they are um you know uh needing to research certain items that is already out there um for the for the public so that they can see the dollar amount and the general idea of what um the business of the board is and um one of the things that i was hoping for was that we could get um which is something that juanita did this time on f10 um she had the dollar amount right in the title so that all the people that are here today when they picked up their agenda um on f10 it says the 5.9 million dollars right there and so i just thought that this was a small thing we could do to make our government a little bit more accessible and transparent and this is a little bit of a silly thing but i asked our staff to um to pull this and it's um from the florida room and it's our values and our mission statement and um right at the bottom it says our values are honesty accountability quality leadership openness and innovation and i just think that this is a small thing that we could do to help fulfill our our values that that we are putting out there with that i'd take any discussion or um if there's any public comment just say something mr chair i i'd like to uh maybe think about this more at the seer workshop uh time certain uh time frame what's that it was last year no i'm i understand i i have a couple ideas myself but i'd you know i'm i'm not opposed to i mean the reading what they that they did um and even possibly reading reading the consent and then asking commissioners if there's something they want to pull and then voting on the item i don't i don't think i mean you know i was the chair here for a year and i think for me to read f1 just as the chair to f11 would have probably taken me all of three minutes i don't i don't think that's uh but i probably have something you know more thoughts beyond that uh around about the time this year workshop that that's all that's all i have to say i have a question about that because my last item we were just talking about how we can make a snap decision and now we're saying this has been on the agenda you've had it and i i don't know why like no we need to drag this out it's a simple ask can we put the dollar amounts in the in the agenda can we well you know okay i think you got a couple things there so the dollar amounts in the title of the agenda so that these pages that are printed for people in the back of the room is that exactly that's part of it today okay is that okay i'm fine with that i i don't i'm not i'm not fighting you on that as far as reading um the consent before we vote on it i don't i don't have a problem with that i'd like to think about it just for um you know if we're if we're talking going to talk about things that seer works uh seer time certain anyways whether that's something the chair ought to do as part of asking for a motion or if that's something that um you know the city or the county manager does typically the managers will do that some some of the cities have the um attorney do it but i i haven't seen any board member read through it i don't think of the meetings that i've seen but um i i would personally suggest that one of the staff members either the manager or the attorney um read that into the record but it's really just a simple ask well how about for today we agree that we'll put the dollar amounts as part of the title so that for the folks who are going to pick up an agenda packet that we print that they that they have that information i could i i could do that today i'd like to think just sure a little bit further about um how how we read that in you know before we ask for a motion for consent before we ask to pull something if it's part of that process that that's all that i'm saying but i would go with you to put the dollar amount in the title of um for the agenda packet i appreciate that i have a question um so the dollar amount is is there for me still being feeling fairly new i feel like i have to read the the whole item before i understand sometimes what that dollar amount means and i and i wonder if while we're trying to make it more transparent if that might make it a little bit more confusing just because you're just getting a number and what's behind that number what's the full story just a thought i mean i think it's sentence dedicated to what the what the dollar amount is for as part of the title i i think i think is appropriate but you're right we we can't we can't print 600 pages for everybody um every single meeting that's that that's just not something that we can do but i think a little common sense dictates that we would put one complete sentence with the dollar amount and what the item is i mean it's largely the items are are there now proposed ordinance amending this um you know board direction at valorem related to parks recreate or you know i wasn't reading f i'm sorry but i mean on the on the on the f items i i don't i mean i think they pretty much spell it out and one of them's got it on and and and to her point um juanita had it in there today for f10 i don't think you have to and that's only that's that's just one sentence i don't think you have to do anything more than that so so i have a lot of questions on this and i would like more time to consider it and look at what i'd like to do is to look at our own agenda and get a sense of what would be the impact and i'll use an example here on j3 resolution authorizing issue of non-avalorem refunding revenue bonds um first and foremost it's important to note that this information is public record and is readily available to the public under the staff analysis which are done timely days ahead i don't know maybe a week ahead of the agenda and um in this particular case you have an entire paragraph it's not a long paragraph but you're talking about refinancing revenue bonds and you're talking about different types of bonds and different revenue sources so there's a four or five four sentence paragraph that describes each one of the line items and how that affects so if we were to take that same paragraph and put it in the agenda packet i think it would make the agenda uh confusing it would be long and might even have the effect of making it more difficult for somebody to look at a brief summary of what our order of business is in the course of a day and agenda pretty much is there to have a quick a quick summary of what's happening of that but putting that on the on the agenda seems to defeat the purpose of an agenda which should be pithy concise and easy to look at and to give you a sense of the order of business you start putting content in the agenda it's no longer an agenda it's it's more involved and i would just like to have more time to look i wasn't i wasn't asking for a summary to be in the agenda all i'm asking for is the dollar amount and i i would be happy with um even simplifying it to put it just on consent agenda items um so that that's more of a this is a definite what the dollars are going to be versus um the j items which can have some discretion based on board um decisions um but some of this requires a summary and this is an agenda item because you don't know for sure what the dollar amount is going to be it's based on market conditions and that's all i well that's what i was saying just for the f items the the consent items that are already pretty much a done deal if we could put the dollar amounts on those um because that's not really subject to board so you're only yours only implies on consent well i sir say something real quick on the on the f items just like we do on any other item where they basically on a top line in the in the packet anyways they're saying the the fiscal impact is three hundred thousand dollars just that just just that and if it's option one option two option three then commissioner i think you would agree that um i mean that when when they do that we have to discuss it and that wouldn't stay on consent right right that would be new business so typically any dollar amount that's on the consent agenda is just a fixed amount that we're you know they believe they have five votes for today we we all agree we're going to fix the sidewalk at you know whatever that dollar amount is right that's that's the that's the purpose of it so just that one line just that one line says here's what the fiscal impact is i'm okay with that i don't i don't think that adds that much and it's okay it's already in the packet so i commissioner delaney i would go with you on that item today and then the reading of the agenda i just a couple more questions on that i think we could could we table we could flush that up the the piece of the and that's why i was kind of suggesting i don't mean to interrupt you i'm sorry but uh at the during the seer workshop i think that would be appropriate um so i'm i'm good with that if just we wanted to bring that part of the discussion up later but adding the dollar amount now i'm i'm good with that today so i would go with you on on that motion if that's what you want to do okay i'd like to make that motion um do we have any cards yeah we do before we vote um i have a question so what sort of applies under under your requests under your agenda item you're it sounds like you're asking that each consent item would be read aloud by the county manager prior to the consent agenda voting the the reason evident consent agenda is to enable you to get through a very lengthy agenda with a lot of issues in a in a very quick and efficient way there is a check and a balance and that any commissioner can pull an item from the consent and also any public member can fill out a card on the consent to me that's going to add just more time and would be redundant and unnecessary and it flies in the face of the idea of a consent of enabling you to go about the business efficiently now i know you've looked at some cities what is the population of cocoa beach what 10 000 uh 15 000. tidusville has 50 000. cocoa has i want to say around 30 000. and we have 650 000 bavard so the whole idea is we have a very anyway but it's the same amount of items i mean for the most part that's just my my input here on that um okay do we have any other discussion well before we go to the cards i just rephrase though i think we were talking about having that discussion of reading the items aloud at the seer workshop so we'll sort of table that discussion uh on that and um but for today i think what we were tentatively agreeing to before you go to the cards was that we can put the dollar amounts in the agenda title i think okay i think that's not hard so i think those are the kind of two separate things there um that we could consider after you after you do the cards i guess okay j6 uh tom shiffalo shiffalo shiffalo tony shiffalo good morning tony shiffalo the historic norwood house titusville i often speak before my city council on issues concerning my immediate neighborhood and i find many issues affect mine and many other neighborhoods so i'm there a lot often issues are buried in what is called the consent agenda while there may be many reasons to find fault with how my town is run i can only applaud the way our agendas are presented since 2020 when i started attending council meetings regularly the city manager or the attorney has read out loud for the record the consent agenda item by item with the associated dollar amounts this information is also printed in the paper agenda printouts at the meeting and the agenda posted on the bulletin board outside city hall where we go to pay our water bills most importantly it is easy to find and read on the published agendas online at the city website perhaps the problem with the county agenda lies with the clerk of the court who publishes the agendas but more likely this is something that can easily be fixed by the commission itself directing the county manager to include this information in the agenda and by reading these consent agenda items and the dollar amounts at the meeting for public record after all millions of dollars are spent in consent agenda items for instance today 27 million 674 000 of which only um how many million was it five million were declared were disclosed so with millions of dollars in the consent agenda items the public is entitled to know this with a lot without without a lot of research digging and clicking in the agenda online because often our agendas in titusville are hundreds of pages long and i don't think that each of our um counselor members has time to study everything so transparency is easy to achieve if it is desired so just direct rachel sat off your county clerk of court to put the dollar amounts in the consent agenda and ask for this to be read in public record at your meetings thank you for allowing me to speak on this issue thank you mr chair yes i'm sorry i gotta i gotta defend the clerk's office we put the agenda out not the clerk office just want to put that on the record i apologize to um miss satoff because um i was looking online where they're all printed and all the clicking and everything was so confusing to me i wasn't certain where that was coming from tom cannelly oh yeah i think you're one of the few that said it right the first time got lots of variations i okay so uh with regard to this item you know you look at the federal government you know they're so distant from us we really never get to see in their big bills all this nuance so i'm sitting here and i'm watching you do the consent agenda and i do see the five million dollars for the opioid opioid stuff and i go oh that's pretty cool that you know we're investing in that sort of thing and so just me joe average i'd like to scan down if it's a hundred thousand dollars for a road i believe the county staff i don't need to look at that but interesting stuff like the opioids hey we're doing something for people that's pretty good so i i agree that uh with what commissioner feltner suggested that the dollar amount get in there and thank you for proposing it and that would do me as a citizen a lot of good because you know when we're in business we're looking for the big amounts not the small amounts you trust the people in the small amounts you just want to question the big amounts so thanks for listening thomas perez good morning uh thank you for hearing me out here uh if i my teeth start shattering uh you'll know why okay it's kind of cold in here i am in support of transparency with the consent agenda and clearly disclosing spending amounts that would help to have citizen support while these agenda items are characterized as routine or non-controversial in practice significant board business is passed under the consent agenda amounting to millions of dollars in public spending that often receives little public's visibility right now all consent items are passed together in a single vote the individual agent items are not read out loud into the record before the vote the printed agenda that residents pick up in person does not list the dollar amounts involved for each item to see the dollar amounts residents must go online click into each individual agenda item and then dig into the background material in plain language if you're sitting in the audience with only the paper agenda in your hand you can't tell how much money is being approved when the board votes on the consent agenda titusville as you heard and other nearby cities already do this to make their spending decisions easier for the public to follow our city manager mr bati as you saw reads the consent agenda out loud and discloses the spending dollars therefore i ask the board to change how consent and business items are presented to the public and to direct staff to update board policy bcc 97 to match the request changes are straightforward for the consent agenda each consent item would be read aloud by the county manager before the consent vote including the associated dollar amount were applicable the dollar amount for each item would be printed directly in the agenda description and also shown in the online title not just buried in back backup documents for the business agenda the items are already discussed and voted on individually the dollar amount for each item would be listed in the printed agenda description and in the online title as well these changes would make it much easier for residents to know at a glance how much money is being allocated or spent before the board votes in that item it also aligns with the brevard county's own stated values of honesty openness and accountability to citizens thank you elizabeth baker good morning folks um so there were probably there were a lot of really good ideas in the consent agenda and you guys spent a lot of money today um but i'm absolutely with you katie i think those dollar amounts should be there the people really should have easily accessible information rather than digging into things and having to click and open a file and it makes it really really difficult especially for a lot of senior citizens or people with eyesight problems the father of the freedom of information act was harold cross and he says that public business is the public's business the people have a right to know so the way that i see it as as the public is that the more information that you can give to the public and the more ways that you can give it to the public i don't care if it's written 27 times and i don't care if you've heard something 27 times the more that you can get something out to the public and get their understanding the more transparency you have and that's really all we ask we just want to know what's going on we want to have it as easily accessible to every single person so you know it kind of i am from titusville so it kind of scares me a little bit when my city that has had so many issues with transparency is doing something a little better than anybody else it's a little scary so i mean kudos to titusville but this board can can achieve that same goal as well thank you okay that's all our public hearing we'll bring it back to do we have one we don't have your card then you can fill one out come on up and fill a card later i'm going to be speaking for my husband too on his is on the consent agenda because um he had an operation and it was supposed to be six weeks recovery and it's now almost six months and he's really not able to stand up and talk so hopefully it's okay um i'll read his first good morning commissioners i am reading the following on behalf of my husband bill hodge i support the county in increasing the transparency of the consent agenda and county spending last year i submitted a speak up brevard submission on the importance of transparency in the consent agenda i raised concerns because county business and spending decisions are quickly passed during county meetings without meeting attendees being fully aware of the business item detail or how much in taxpayer funds are being spent for the items that are approved collectively the consent agenda is simply a brief board action that occurs during meetings that attendees are often unaware and which often allocates and spends millions of dollars in public funds in just a few moments of time without even reading the items into the record i support the commissioners increasing the transparency of the consent agenda by instructing the county manager to read the consent agenda out loud at each meeting prior to the vote and including the fiscal impact of each item i support the commissioners instructing the county manager to clearly disclose the financial impact of each agenda item in the title description to be easily viewed by taxpayers and both the online and the printed meeting agendas while background information is made available for those residents that have time to do online research before each meeting i would like easier access and clearly disclose spending without having to do online research this makes the county business more accessible to those that have the technology and time limitations the practice is done at other local meetings and can be done at the county too please vote yes on this item direct the county manager to take these reasonable actions and update the county policy accordingly thank you my husband and uh this is mine because i have been fighting public records for 30 some odd years when florida today got uh had to pay thirty thousand dollars for their public records and they sued and got the money back and uh not from the county of the school but but anyway i've been in this is my issue um uh my name is sarah hodge this year i submitted 3c a seer request sorry i've got congestion um related um okay i get just one or um is it just now yes go ahead there's two different i understand because you mentioned earlier it's two different okay um okay uh easy access to public information is very important to me i'd like to share three practical transparency improvements that could make county records easier for residents to access while also saving staff time responding to individual requests first residents currently do not have online access to brevard county's administrative orders ordinances and resolutions as individual adopted documents if a resident wants to review one of these records they have two options either submit a public records request to the county staff or try to locate it organized online and the muni code the county's online code library while muni code is useful for viewing laws organized by subject it does not make it easy to locate individual items by number or adoption date residents that wish to review individual items encounter unnecessary barriers and require step county staff time responding to individual requests for documents a simple solution would be to provide a read only public listing of these items on the county website allowing residents to access them by number title and adoption date brevard county staff already has online internal access to this requested content but the public does not other florida governments already provide this type of access including the city of panama city and miami-dade county second brevard county receives a large number of public records requests each year nearly 2 000 requests were received in 2024 over time county staff gained viable valuable insight into which records are requested most often however there is currently no routine routine process to review these requests to determine whether some information could simply be made easier to find on the county website establishing a quarterly or biannual review of public records requests could help identify opportunities to the post commonly requested information online and improve website navigation third many county records are already available on the county's leg star meeting calendar which stores commission meeting agendas and supporting documents providing clearer guidance directing residents to the searchable resource could help people become informed on a large amount of county business and background documents these suggestions align with provide county's mission and core values emphasizing openness accountability innovation and effective communication with residents commissioners please support these values thank you and i'm going to give a copy of this to the clerk and to all of you commissioners okay i think that is our last card so we'll bring this back to the commission can i uh clarify one thing i said i said workshop earlier and i'm and i meant this year time certain portion of that county commission meeting i just make that clear okay okay we're back on the agenda item at hand um j6 if there's no other discussion i'd like to make a motion okay um i'd like to make a motion to approve the dollar amount to be put in the consent agenda title and i also move to table the conversation about reading the consent agenda item to the meeting where we do this year um recommendations okay i'll second that okay there's a motion a second to put the dollar amount and i would assume in the case where there's multiple dollar amounts or it's an estimated dollar amount which one would would they put typically with the consent there's not multiple dollar amounts yeah or estimate it's it is there is estimates i'm looking at one right now that has an estimate and depends on how a project's done so it's not always cut in black right black and white i would say whatever is in our whatever's in the agenda item that that dollar amount all right okay there's a motion in a second um any discussion all in favor say aye aye opposed opposed there's uh well i'm sorry uh commissioner goodson are you i or a nay okay all right motion fails for uh three two uh with commissioner feltner and delaney voting in favor can i make another motion um to simply put the dollar amount in the consent agenda just as in f10 i'll second that i'm looking at f10 so you said just as in f10 that was the juanita item okay okay how is that different from the first i just want to be clear well it was um that was a joint motion for discussion about reading out loud at the next um right so you tabled that portion of that though no that that's done for now unless there's board direction that we would like to to talk about that further yeah the motion was dollar amount in the agenda and to table for discussion at a later time the staff reading out loud and this new motion is simply just putting the dollar amount in the title that's all okay putting the dollar amount in the title and she used an example of a good one f10 as an example okay is there a second i i second the second by commissioner feltner uh any debate all in favor say aye aye opposed nay i think for now i'll vote a name but maybe at a future time we could look at it but motion uh fails for uh three two with commissioner delaney and feltner voting in favor okay item j7 vince lamb good morning commissioners yes hi i'm here to speak that the uh the trust of public land and the nature conservancy have both come forward and offered their their free assistance to provide county to help us pass the uh save our indian river lagoon uh referendums proposed for for november uh there's again there's absolutely no cost this uh this type of service was used in uh in 2016 and again in 2022 uh virginia barker was uh had she was here and can state that she had uh good experiences with with this assistance uh the letter that's in your package unfortunately doesn't it does not include the nature conservancy so the nature conservancy just came forward in the past the past week or so and stepped up to do this i have printed copies of uh of the full letter i the reason the reason that i think this uh this help is valuable is because uh because the uncertainty that we're facing uh at the the current time and leading up to november that uh i i believe there's a you know a lot of uncertainty that affects affects the voters there's economic situations there's a war going on uh uh uh there's uh you know uncertainty as to exactly what the state legislature is going to do with this shift between property tax and sales tax the uh these two organizations are involved deeply in in in hundreds where they've been over the years they've been involved in hundreds of referendums like this and they've got lots of good experience uh my personal experience with them in 26 and in 16 and 22 was uh was that they were quite helpful and i would i would welcome to uh to then to come back to the party so uh i think this is straightforward uh uh and i hope you will uh will decide to request the help and talk i talked to um mr lamb about this letter um and and my first question is why you need the letter and uh does this doesn't commit to us in any way shape or form any dollar amount or any action it doesn't really reflect any endorsement of the data that's found or advocacy whatsoever uh strictly um uh acknowledging that we're not in opposition uh and i for one understand trust for public land nature conservative 501c3 nonprofits they're um they're grant funded and this requirement they have placed upon them and they start working on getting information on these type of things that the the the local government is not in opposition to them it's more of a technicality to enable them am i reading that correct i think that's it i mean i think it's reasonable that they're going to extend the services that they understand ahead of time that you're receptive to you know receptive to paying some attention uh and apparently that you know that's what they explained to me was that uh that the grant funding that they're dependent the way they work is basically they have to ask for this uh technical assistance request letter and and i wanted to get that question because i figured it might come up while we were here but that simply allows us to accept their uh their technical assistance and information gathering because basically what they're doing they're they're working right now with nine other counties in florida and this group out of birmingham and tallahassee is working with about 70 other uh counties uh around the southeast so they they've got their finger on the pulse in a way that uh that we you know we're pretty isolated and uh and you know when we get into questions about what should we do you know my experience i i have uh three successful uh campaign assistance experiences with uh uh with 2016 well two two really but that also i helped deliver brevard county for amendment one for the uh uh for the state so uh so i've got a little bit of campaign experience but i don't hold myself out to be a campaign expert and uh and i like to have a campaign expert to uh to reach out to with the hard questions okay any questions yes um i was wondering about how do they go about getting the public input and the recommendations regarding the program design do you want me to answer that yes okay sure i don't know if staff knows or you know they will they will conduct a highly professional poll uh that uh they did this in the past two times and the most important thing part of it to me is uh is that they got they got a lot of experience and and some of the questions will reach out to like what do people think is the most important what's the most important benefit that you'd expect from the solar renewal and uh in the past uh in 2016 i was kind of surprised that the public basically stood up stood up for endangered wildlife that live in the lagoon and so when we were then we're developing a campaign for why should we work you know why should we do this then we kind of tailored you know our response to the campaign was going back to you know it's the things that came out of that that poll is what was important to the voters right i guess my only concern is you know and why i asked that question is because people can make data say whatever they want it to say based on who they ask so um it's to me it's really important when i think about polls and things like that it's what was it like how did they gather the data that's the biggest thing for me that i look at and so that's i have i have a strong wonder about that well i think it's i don't know how familiar you are with uh with the nature conservancy and the trust for public land but they're really high integrity organizations and so i sat through a lot of the development of the questions of the improve approving of the questions for the uh for the polls in the past and there was nothing that indicated any bias it was just a highly professional what's the information that we need right and uh and you know how do we how do we i'm not saying that about the questions i'm more wondering where does where do the questions go and how do they determine what people get asked the questions do you happen to know anything about that i could say something on this if okay everybody prefers uh i did uh speak speak with them uh had a zoom and uh call and um you know when i was a graduate student i had to write papers on why polls are wrong that was the thing here's here's three articles go tell me why they're wrong get it get it in less than 10 pages for next week and um and and so i'm i'm very much a critic of it and and for a lot of reasons good reasons i mean you know you have caller id in your in your hand all the time you don't know what that number is you don't you don't pick it up and uh so that makes that makes polling and such hard and i spoke with them about that and and that's something that they deal with every day and they they have uh other means of of asking folks um questions i think um first of all polling in say uh you know political campaigns just like what you see on tv they asked a thousand people across the country which is ridiculous there's 400 million people and you asked a thousand and and they say likely voters and when gallup invented polling um you know most homes in 1936 had a phone and so they would they would ask three questions do you know where your polling place is do you know when election day is and who would you vote for and those three questions determined a likely voter but so when you hear that term likely voter they they came up with that it's changed vastly different now now i'll say and and i i think that's still very hard and in fact gallup has even given up they're not polling in presidential uh elections anymore because they recognize that it's almost an impossible thing thing to do but on issue polling especially when there's a big disparity between yes we we want this thing or maybe no we want this this other thing that's in competition and and and and there's just a lot more support for the first item that's how they they determine so it's it's it's it's not quite the same as candidate a um candidate b so um also this group i think they're pretty objective they're they're not here in brevard county so they kind of don't have a stake in you know the the campaign that's going to happen here from they are genuine environmentalist and so that's their that's their motive and um so they're really going to provide um some some guidance but whether whether you take it and you use it and that turns into to something um next next fall is is the bigger question and that ultimately won't even be up to us this really today is sort of an invitation for them because if if we if we said no uh i think they wouldn't sort of waste their time here because they have a lot of other projects that that really was the short of it when i when i talked with them does that help answer i guess i'm not an expert i'm just wondering about maybe you could help with this because um but my concern is that it goes out to 300 or 3 000 people that are somehow linked with the lagoon versus 3 000 blind you know well that violates the first rule of polling which is and again if i go back to my gallup example they they randomly called numbers right and and so then they determined what was a likely voter because they had they had a random chance everyone had an equal chance mostly equal because they had a by virtue of they had a phone in their house had an equal chance of getting a phone call right that was the that was the random part of it then they were trying to determine well okay who's a likely voter they know when election day is they know where their polling places and they intend to vote um so in in this case um let's just say we said well here's all the people who who in the past said um they support the lagoon effort and they only pulled them that's not that's not a poll right and it would be very clear too yeah you know when you see stuff like that right right to your earlier point right you know lying with numbers right okay i don't think that's what they're trying to do there's no education in that whatsoever because i'm guessing this this work that they're going to do is going to be used by whatever group is campaigning to say look at all this data we have or for the commission to digest too right they'll provide that information also to the board to say hey this might not be something that you had considered but through our i don't mean to answer for you vince but through our um our surveys and feedback and however they they clean all of that we're hearing a lot of folks saying saying this and to his point he wasn't expecting in 16 that a lot of folks said well i'm concerned about the wildlife um in in the river endangered species specifically in in the river right okay i would be happy to provide you with with zoom or telephone contact with uh with one of the leaders of these organizations uh that would be great you can have your personal guidance into it yeah thank you okay okay all right do i have any other questions on item j7 so the uh there would be a motion to approve the letter to the trust for public land motion second second all those in favor say aye aye opposed carries unanimously thank you commissioner goodson here's unanimously okay we're back to public comments we have tom cannelly um do you mind i'm kind of new with this uh good it showed up so what i uh i really intended to speak on other topics during public comments but i want to come back to some of my seer recommendations yeah you're up there you're one of those wizards if you're looking real closely um the reason i thought j5 was so important was that we got a chance to preview with you allow you to think about what our suggestions might be and i'm just going to go through this rather quickly but before i can have my time stopped because i i need to know if commissioner goodson is he on zoom or anything or is he only phone because i i don't want to leave him out you think he's watching online can somebody ask him i don't know if it's my place to ask him absolutely you can ask him commissioner goodson did you want to you're listening to us can you see us yes thank you yes yes yes did not want to exclude him okay thank you very much sure you're included all right so i did submit three uh three seer items start your time okay i did submit thank you that's kind uh three seer items and it has to do with indian river lagoon waters water county i think i heard earlier and uh the three are using the canaveral locks the control drainage some specific stuff on on brook hill drive and something about using some uh backflow preventers so let me just kind of go through those since i don't have a lot of time but here's the persuasion reason why j5 could have been important how many of you boy that's a little dim you say it waters all the way up across the road and in the houses along there i mean in in october we had a month of this and i suspect some of the other districts had this as well i don't think this was unique to us so we're looking for some solutions here and i suggested in this here that the canaveral locks be used as a way to drain out some of this so up in the upper left-hand corner the saint john's water management district gives us the data i drew the line that's not their line but that line that says flooding that's mine that's when i think we get flooding anyway i'm saying that because you have objective data to look at i would look be looking at the eoc emergency operation center to work with the folks that operate the locks to coordinate opening and closing them this is not what i am not talking about is anything to do with sorrel where they talked about flushing the lagoon or bringing new water in none of that i want it open just long enough to resolve the flooding and then we close it and so back in uh uh 2008 tropical storm uh fade they did open it so there is precedent and down there at the bottom under under yellow it says they confirm they will do it they will open it in an emergency now in black on the right this is ai we all know ai can be really good or it can be but it calculated if there was a three inch difference between the banana river and the ocean that we could flow about a million gallons per minute that's a lot of water to move i don't know if i believe that yet but i thought i'd uh um show that to you my second suggestion was you can see on the left hand picture that's a storm water management drain brevard county that is back flowing salt water onto the street i don't think we're the only place that has this in the county and so i can measure it in the middle and on the right our great folks at public works came up with the plan to to fix it raise the drain a little bit and still have it be a drain unfortunately when sorrel came along that kind of went away because why tear up the road twice makes perfect sense so my my seer ask is hey make sure that sorrel is working with public works to resolve a problem they already know about it i don't expect them to tear up the road today that would be twice all right let's go on to the the final water backflow preventers everybody know what a backflow preventer is i just won't go through that can be used throughout the county thank you appreciate it i got it thank you jennifer duffin do i have permission to approach to give you some hand yes yes you do thank you and one for records good uh still morning good morning commissioners a traditional intersection has 32 points where vehicles can collide a roundabout has just eight that single design difference is why studies show roundabouts can reduce fatal crashes by up to 90 percent because of that dramatic safety improvement along with smoother traffic flow and lower pollution i'm recommending the county consider roundabouts where they make sense according to the federal highway administration converting traditional intersections to roundabouts can reduce fatal crashes by about 90 percent and injury crashes by about 75 percent overall collisions drop by roughly 37 percent these improvements occur because roundabouts fundamentally change the geometry of traffic conflicts instead of high-speed crossing movements that cause severe crashes vehicles move through the intersection at slower speeds and yield to circulating traffic roundabouts also improve traffic efficiency instead of drivers sitting through red lights during low traffic periods vehicles yield and keep moving which can increase intersection capacity by 30 to 50 percent and significantly reduce delay they also provide measurable environmental benefits because vehicles are not repeatedly stopping and accelerating signals studies show roundabouts can reduce fuel consumption and emissions by 20 to 30 percent pedestrian safety improves as well with slower traffic speeds and refuge islands roundabouts have been shown to reduce pedestrian crashes by about 40 percent and importantly for taxpayers roundabouts eliminate the need for signal equipment electricity and ongoing signal maintenance which reduces long-term operational costs for local governments roundabouts are not appropriate at every intersection but when applied strategically they are one of the most effective tools available to improve roadway safety and traffic efficiency i respectfully encourage the county to evaluate intersections where roundabouts could provide these benefits roundabouts aren't just a traffic design they're a proven way to save lives reduce congestion and reduce unnecessary fuel waste for our community thank you for your time and consideration and commitment to improving safety and mobility in our community did you have any questions sir i do i i how do you spell your last name dustin dustin d-u-s-t-i-n i couldn't read there was a second card so okay yeah that's all right thank you okay i agree with you by the way i love around the house thanks very much i know there's very controversial but i appreciate everybody everybody says nobody knows how to drive in a roundabout but that's how you learn you have to get a lot of calls about the roundabout and practice thank you she lived in uk for 12 years wow so she knows roundabouts yeah it's a fascinating subject and you're talking about lives and injuries so it's important elizabeth baker i spent a lot of time walking around in brevard county and some people walk for exercise but i tend to walk with a trash bag over time after picking up trash for years i've noticed a lot of patterns where letter collects where dumpsters overflow and where trash escapes into storm drains and eventually into the indian river lagoon brevard county is clearly growing we're welcoming new residents new development and millions and millions of visitors every year tourism alone brings billions of dollars into the space coast economy our cruise terminals beaches rocket launches attract people from all over the world and growth is definitely something to celebrate but it also means more packaging more disposable items and more pressure on our waste systems globally aside from cigarette butts the most commonly littered items are food wrappers plastic bottle caps plastic bags disposable food packaging and these lightweight materials easily escape from overflowing dumpsters and unsecured trash areas and end up in roadways storm drains and waterways litter is not just an environmental issue it becomes a public safety issue an infrastructure issue taxpayer issue it damages mowing equipment clogs storm water systems harms wildlife increases maintenance cost and ultimately that falls on the county and ultimately that falls on us the good news is the brevard county already has strong laws addressing it chapter 94 the county code requires proper waste storage and litter free properties my proposal simply adds a preventative step that helps ensure those existing rules are followed i'm asking the commission to consider a simple waste management confirmation for brick and mortar commercial properties and multi-family developments with shared trash systems in the unincorporated areas of brevard county it could be a short one page plan just confirming trash and recycling capacity pickup schedules dumpster placement and maintenance and basic litter prevention practices in most cases things already exist this proposal does not create new fees new staff or new departments it simply confirms that waste systems are adequate before problems occur and we end up with code enforcement violations it's cost neutral pro-business and supportive of tourism because clean commercial spaces and well-managed properties protect the visitor experience and reduce infrastructure cost importantly we have to know and everybody here knows that growth works best when the systems that are there support it so i am respectfully asking the commission to consider directing staff to review the proposal and evaluate whether simple waste management confirmation could be incorporated into existing permitting or inspection processes thank you thank you melissa brandt morning commissioners my name is melissa brandt i've been a brevard county resident for 26 years and 18 of those i have served as a public servant recently i've been um i changed a little bit went to a non-profit organization and i've been doing outreach the span of 72 miles in this county formerly i do understand the responsibility of balancing many priorities across a county that spans so many miles but at its core one of the most important roles of local government is protecting the safety and well-being of your residents when temperatures drop access to overnight shelter is not just a social concern it's really a community safety safety issue on cold nights in brevard shelters quickly reached their capacity how do i know i was at one in january in titusville at life point ministries it was amazing to see the staff the volunteers there on a thursday night i was doing outreach for substance abuse but they open their doors as a common table to invite people in that do not have shelter to have a meal a shower they have organizations come out provide phones anything they can to homeless individuals that night they flipped after dinner and they opened their doors to a cold night shelter of which over 65 people were there these people were from 70 years old to one it was amazing to see families in need it was heartbreaking actually so what i wanted to ask is it should all remind us how hard our faith-based organizations and our small non-profits are working brevard homeless coalition sent me this yesterday as i do work also i'm a member of the continuum of care life point ministries served 32 nights of which actually cold night shelters operated on 39 34 nights so far between january and february matthews hope 20 nights our friends and neighbors providence connects church of the nazarene 16 nights and the central brevard sharing center 11 nights across these activations an average of 215 individuals were sheltered per night through this coordinated community response what i'm asking is can the county open shelters or can the county direct staff to look at some partnership idea we have over i know point in time count is just a point in time but what i see out in this community and what i even seen at my workplace at our front doors are people in true need of help and if we could open shelter during cold weather and extreme heat orange county does it they partner with a non-profit they go in they run the shelters they provide small case management and sometimes can get people to the help they deserve and i'm just asking if brevard county would help our citizens in need thank you sarah hodge okay all right we got you covered okay thank you um that's all our public comments did you have one that's easy come on up what was your name joanne maxim and i also submitted uh prior to today's meeting uh my original speak up brevard oh i missed it i must have got it okay sorry about that all right i'm glad you spoke up all right well thank you so good morning commissioners my name is joanne maxim and i live in the vera east community i recently noticed a post-it sign identifying a future spyglass hill extension and i-95 overpass i submitted this to would you be able to assist me to not come up on the overhead i photographed this sign and submitted the photo so it can be included in the public record i previously submitted a request for an ada mobility accommodation to use a golf cart on certain sidewalks in the city of rockledge and that request was not approved i understand that the city of rockledge and brevard county are two separate governments i am not here to challenge the city's decision i am here to highlight that this limits safe accessible access and creates a barrier between communities for residents who rely on mobility accommodations what was intended to connect communities has instead created a barrier our community deserves clarity on this this project has been identified for decades it is currently projected between 2031 and 2050 30 years is long enough it's time to build connection instead of continuing division i respectfully ask if staff could clarify the current status of the future spyglass hill extension and i-95 overpass reference on the postage signage thank you for your time and consideration thank you can i ask one thing on that isn't is that i'm sorry it's vera company that's doing that i know vera company owns part of the right away yes so i'm sure it's part of of thanks mark mark's weight mark's and i had a similar question because i was on the regional planning council when we approved the dri and was on the commission when we approved the development and the dri development regional impact night i remember the project is a part of the capital plan for it's um if you i'm sorry commissioner it's a uh requirement of their um do for the regional development of impact for vera i think it comes in in phase four and there's a traffic count associated with it i don't know what the particular number of units and for the traffic that they would have to make that improvement ma'am may i may i ask what is it that you're hoping for from that overpass when when it does eventually happen well actually that would connect vera east and vera west and um people that would be able to walk and or people who have mobility devices would be able to cross over 95 as of right now there is no safe pathway to get over onto vera west for the residents that live on vera east which i do because we cannot go across uh vera boulevard and i know barriers i i think that f dot doesn't permit taking golf carts like for example over the diamond interchange and i think you can't you can't even cross underneath i-95 um on wickham road correct so i i'll ask f dot this question for you okay and we'll follow up because if you're talking a mobility device like a scooter a personal mobility scooter i am actually talking about a golf cart that is considered a mobility device under the ada accommodation that accommodates for my family okay and i understand that golf carts they they have concerns when they're in traffic especially that diamond interchange um and uh so that's okay i'll ask i'll ask the question about ada style golf carts and get that for you from f dot okay correct and you are correct with vera because you cannot go across either way they have the barricades as well as in fact when i was coming here this morning i actually saw a golf cart going through the diamond and all that but i'm not going to put my family at risk for that and under nine under um i-95 down on wickham golf carts go that way too but by i think they go around bollards though i think they have some things there to to prevent them i think they're not supposed to to go underneath under 95 they do all there's places where they're not supposed to be for for sure correct um yeah well i'm just trying to go about it the correct way and when we bought the golf cart years ago um and i also noticed that the signage so i mean it's been on the books for 30 years and another 30 more i mean that's a hundred years yeah you know in the planning i mean in the science the design may still change before they they get it done so i think you're i think you're right to ask a question before they start putting concrete in the ground yeah i think it'd just be a good overpass to unite both communities for people that live on vera west if they want to come to vera east and vera east to vera west and people that have mobility that they at least have a safe crossing over i-95 it was a shame they couldn't make some type of i will say that i think vera has been mindful of the golf carts and i'm sorry mr chair um over here with the the tunnel if you will that they they they put um on the piney to west um extension i'm not a golf cart person and by the high school yes and um i'm even trying to work out something with the schools where they can take golf carts into the back of the school rather than the front and that's just simply trying to handle traffic in front of the school you got pedestrians you have golf carts you have you have cars and if we could get one of those three out of that loop and maybe go to a separate entrance so those those are those are things that we continue to talk about so i'll find out from fdot for you on the it kind of makes it difficult because when you live in vera east if i go to the right out of my development i go into the city of rockledge if i go left i'm in my jurisdiction which allows golf carts you go to the city of rockledge understood you know yes i'm not here to challenge some of that by the way i mean you know viera was was was built with the idea that the you know it's a golf cart friendly community they have the multi-use trails that are wider um in rockledge older neighborhood that doesn't have those those wide sidewalks that can you know a golf cart can travel on and someone can can be still walking and they not a section of a section of barns and morell it does have the extra wide sidewalks and that those were the only two sidewalks that i was requesting access to so thank you for your time and consideration okay thank you i mean she brought up a point i had a question too just um they don't allow golf courts to go on the interpasses or but if it's a street approved street certified yeah if it's licensed so that's the whole difference if it's got the tag on it um so then that's a low yes that's a low speed um vehicle otherwise it's and that would be allowed yes okay yes i and i think i mean we've we've been through this too over on the beach where you know the either being on a1a crossing a1a parking at the at the parks um all all those things have come up because you know you're not supposed to be on a1a or cross it with a golf cart um but if it's got the tag on it then then that's considered a low speed vehicle i think 35 miles an hour is the is the limit on that you do have to have a driver's license with the golf cart remember the legislature caught statute up a little bit you've at least now have have to have taken the um written exam for your temporary permit before you can drive a golf cart or you're 18 if you don't have a license um so they're different distinctions i know i live it i live it here every day i know you know for not being a golf cart guy you know golf carts what i'll tell you my parents my parents had a golf cart my dad had a mobility issue um my dad was hurt as a young man and so um and uh and scooter ended up being pretty good around his neighborhood but the golf cart was funny my my you know someone's car had to stay in the driveway for the golf cart to go in the garage and be charged and everything so my parents fought over the golf cart until finally they got they got rid of it and um so i remember that i remember those um days very vividly so the um the overpass that is going to be spyglass um and i grew up in hammock lakes and so we used to play in that area so that was um that's pretty cool but um that is is it just going to be an overpass over 95 it's not going to be an exit it's not an interchange as i understand in fact i i think they were even at one time it only being two-laned uh you know what i mean just what's one eastbound and what's one westbound does that sound vaguely right tad sorry reach out to the veera company eva from the veera company she is just incredible i mean so much she cares deeply about what she does and is um really just uh an awesome lady and so um i don't know if we could talk to them about you know even putting a golf cart pass uh path on that overpass or something especially because it's so um golf cart friendly i know veera i think the only way they could probably get that done is if there aren't cars there too if it was strictly pedestrian and i okay morris morris giving me the lsvs can only be operated on streets where posted speed limit is 35 or less right because they're limited at 35 so yeah okay ma'am i'll follow up with you we'll have your information from the card okay and uh i'm not requesting for it to be strictly bill it's i understand walk with the uh the ada gotcha two of three of my family members have a placard so that accommodates our family okay i'm very sensitive to that okay okay great thank you that concludes our public comment section and we will move on find my agenda here um okay we're uh now in board reports um county manager thank you mr chair just have one um i don't know if everyone knows but tom schuler the president of the brevard farm bureau passed away earlier this month he was a leader in the agricultural community worked with him over the years um so i'll send down his condolences to his wife lori and the rest of his family okay we'll miss him so we missed um county attorney a new report mr chair district one thank you um i just have a short one today i just wanted to give a shout out to our fire department um for our county fire rescue um we had some pretty serious uh fires a few weeks ago and um they're just incredible they just they they they save the structures they um are just so professional and i know that um chief probably told me this uh i don't know if in confidence or not but i'm gonna brag on them anyway um our our firefighters they uh they got some pizza you know um that night for dinner and our people went out to those houses that um dealt with the fire that night and gave them some of their pizzas and whatnot and so it just we have some incredible people that work for brevard county and they care so deeply about our community and so i just wanted to give them a shout out and uh say thank you to them um and then our public works department this weekend uh we had some um or maybe it was a couple days i can't remember exactly what day it was but we had some torrential downpours in d1 and some of our streets started flooding um and they uh were very quick to go out there and double check all the drainage and stuff just to make sure that nothing was clogged and whatnot and luckily no water in houses this time but um they and by the time they got there it had uh dissipated but i just really appreciate our public works um maintenance guys our north area guys they they went out um you know when it wasn't their normal work hours and i i just really appreciate the um care and concern for our community out there thank you thank you uh district two okay we have no report from do we have a report from district two none sir okay thank you district three no report no report four no sir and i have no report either so that concludes uh our agenda thank you so much