I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I now call this meeting on the Bavard County Board of Zoning Adjustment on Wednesday, October 14th, to order. Will Mr. Bode from the Planning and Development Office please describe the function and operation of the Board of Zoning Adjustment to our applicants and audience, please? Yes, Ms. Chairman. The Board of Adjustment is a quasi-judicial body established by the Board of County Commissioners under Chapter 62, Article 2, Division 4 of Bavard County Code. The Board of Adjustment is empowered to hear requests for variances to the zoning regulation and the signed regulation in Chapter 62, Article 6, and Article 9. Pursuant to Florida Rules of Appellate Procedure, any person or persons jointly or severally agreed by any decision of the Board of Adjustment may, within 30 days after the date the order is signed, apply to a court of competent jurisdiction for appropriate relief. Ms. Chairman, you have four items on your agenda today. Thank you. We're in need of someone reading our reading number two. Unfortunately, we don't have the paper for that. Do you guys have it? Undue hardship? Undue hardship? Yeah, if you want to. I can read it. No, go ahead. Okay. An undue hardship. A variance may be granted when it will not be contrary to the public interest and where, owing to special conditions, a literal enforcement of the provisions of this chapter will result in unnecessary and undue hardship. The term undue hardship has a specific legal definition in this context and essentially means that without the requested variance, the applicant will have no reasonable use of the subject property under existing development regulations. Personal medical reasons shall not be considered as grounds for establishing undue hardship sufficient to qualify an applicant for a variance. Economic reasons may be considered only in instances where the landowner cannot yield a reasonable use and or a reasonable return under the existing land development regulations. The applicant must answer a variance hardship worksheet with six questions. The Board of Adjustment will discuss these questions today with each applicant who has requested a variance. Thank you. I will now address our board members, the applicants, and our audience regarding the board procedures for today's hearing. The Board of Zoning and Adjustment is a quasi-judical board with members appointed by the Bavard County Board of Commissioners. We will utilize the Robert Rules of Order to conduct its proceedings. The chair is asking all board members not to ask questions while the applicants are making their presentations. Once the applicants have completed their presentation, we will begin board questioning with the board member who represents the applicant's district. When concluded, questioning is open to the full board. The chair will recognize each board member in turn. Once all board members have completed their questioning, we will then open the floor to the audience who may be here to speak concerning the applicant's application. Anyone from the audience wishing to speak will be given an opportunity to address the board only once. At the conclusion of public comment, the applicant will be given additional time for rebuttal, as well to present their final comments. Once completed, no further comment will be heard from the applicant or the public. The action then moves to the board for discussion and action. We will not use a timer for this meeting. Instead, we're asking each speaker to be concise in what you have to say. It's important that you stay on a subject and avoid information that's not relevant. All persons speaking must provide their name and address for the public record. Those wishing not to verbally state their address may ask the clerk at the podium for a dress card. Please pull it out and you return it to the clerk. Are there any questions regarding these procedures from the board members? No, ma'am. Are there any questions regarding the procedures from the applicants? We have a question? Could we add on to an applicant notice? If there's an audience member that would like to speak pertaining to one of the applicant's situations, yes, they can come up and speak when we address them at that time. Yes. Thank you. Any other questions? No. Okay. All right. Seeing none, we will move to our next order of business. We will go to meeting minutes. Move to approve. Second. I second. We have a motion to approve and a second. How many minutes have been approved? Mr. Brody, can you give us our first case, please? Yes. It's pronounced Bode. No R. I'm sorry? I'm sorry. What did you say? My name. Oh. How did you pronounce your name? Bode with no R. Oh, Bode. Okay, Mr. Bode. Thank you. It's okay. Item H1, Smith-Tema request three variants of Chapter 62, Article 6, Bavaria County Code, for lot width, lot depth, lot size, and a TR-1 zoning classification. Application is 26B-00054, and this is located at District 1. And this item application was tabled at the September 16, 2026 BOA meeting. Okay, will the applicant come forward, please? Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I'm going to swear you in. Please state your name and address for the record, please. Smith-Tema, 326 Acorn Street. Do you swear and affirm that the evidence you're about to give this Board of Adjustments is the truth? Yes. Thank you. Just speak directly into the mic. How can we help you to that? I was just applying for these. Just a little loud. I'm sorry. As I was just applying for these variances, so I can get the setbacks on trying to build a building. Okay. So you're in District 1. Okay. So let's talk about it. Okay. You have, what is on your lot right now? It's just a concrete slab. I can't hear you. I'm sorry. It's just a concrete slab. It's just a concrete slab. Yes, ma'am. You're trying to build what? A house structure, like a small house. Okay. So you're here for three variants, correct? Correct. Okay. And can you go over that with me? I actually don't have the papers with me. Oh, you don't have your papers? Because this is my first time, so I didn't know what to expect. So I'm sorry about that. Okay. That's fine. Okay. I'm going to open it up for questions. Mr. Bond, do you have any questions? No, Madam Chair. I don't have any questions. Ms. Clements? I don't have any questions. Okay. So I drove past your property in District 1. I did see the slab. And what I see you here for is three variants. So let me go over that just real out loud right now. You're looking to change the TR1 zone lot, correct? Correct. You have a single-family mobile home zoning. The first request equates to 23% deviation to what the code allows. The second request equates to a 30% deviation to what the code allows. And the third request equates to 53% deviation to what the code allows. You already have one variant approved to the minimum lot with minimum. Okay. Now, let me ask you a question. You have neighbors to the left for you? Yes. Okay. How do they feel about this? Did they say anything? No, they didn't say anything. They're all pretty cool. Okay. And you have neighbors to the right? Correct. Okay. Did they object to anything? No. No, no. Okay. All right. Just step to the side. Is there anyone here that would like to speak on this variant? Either nay or yay? Is this pertaining to lot 3209? Please come up. Yes, sir. 3209 Norfolk Street? That's me. I'm sorry. Come right to the mic, sir, and tell us what you just said. I'm sorry. I'm here about lot 3209, Norfolk Street. No, sir. I'm sorry. No, that's not this one. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Come back seeing none. Okay. We're going to go over the, I go over this experience. I'm sorry. Any discussion? Uh-huh. I don't have any. Do we have any discussion? Any discussions? No, ma'am. I don't have any discussion. Okay. Anybody like to make a motion? Go for it. I move to approve the variances. Do we? Yeah. Yeah, all three variances. Sorry, limiting the approval to the survey provided by the applicant on 5-4-2026. I second. Okay. We have a motion to approve, and we have a second. I'm going to go over the six variants. That special conditions and circumstances exist which are not applicable to other land, structures, or buildings in the applicable zoning classification. That the special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant. Second, that granting the variance requested would not confer on an applicant any special privilege that is denied by the provisions of this chapter to other lands, buildings, or structures in the identical zoning classification. Four, that literal enforcement of the provisions of this chapter would deprive the applicant of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties in the identical zoning classification under the provisions of this chapter will constitute unnecessary and undue hardship on the applicant. Five, that the variance granted is the minimum variance that would make possible this reasonable use of the land, building, or structure. And six, that the granting of the variance would be in harmony with the general intent and purpose of this chapter, and that such use variance would not be injurious to the area involved or otherwise detrimental to the public welfare. We have a motion to approve by Mr. Bond. We have a second by Ms. Clemmons. Your variance have approved. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you all. Mr. Bodie, may we please have the next one. Yes, item H2, Gail Diffendorfer, revocable trust. Request variance of Chapter 62, Article 6, Brevard County Code for an accessory structure in an RU-1-9 zoning classification. Application is 26V00059. It's located in District 1. Good afternoon. How are you? Fine. How are you? Good. Can you state your name for the record, please? Gail Diffendorfer. Let's pull a mic to you a little bit, please. Gail Diffendorfer. Gail Diffendor, 130 Belmont Avenue, Cocoa, Florida. Cocoa, Florida. Do you swear to tell the truth? Yes, I do. How can we help you this afternoon? Well, first of all, thank you for hearing my request for the variance. You're welcome. And we are, I'm the owner of the property at 130 Belmont Avenue, requesting a variance to allow us to build a detached garage storage building. And it's going to, the proposed site is 31 feet back, set back from the road. Our house is 45 feet set back from the road. All the other houses are 30 feet set back from the road. This house was built in 1979, and I had no control over where it was positioned at the time. And there, so the variance would be that it's in front of the front of our house. So, and all the neighboring houses are set back 30 feet. We chose the proposed site for the building because of the existing natural hardwoods and palm trees and how they're set out and the drainage and also an existing drainage ditch in the back of our property that needs to be accessible by the county because they maintain it. So, if we move the building back further, we would have to take out trees and palm trees, and plus it would leave less area for the maintenance crew to come in and work on the ditch. The ditch comes from U.S. 1 back behind the houses from U.S. 1 our way to the river. And then it turns at the end, in the middle of our property and goes north. Well, our house doesn't have a ditch behind the property. So, it's kind of a little bit less land where the proposed building site is going to be than where our house is, too. So, I imagine that's why they put the house back further. I don't know. But if we remove the trees at the back of the property, I think you're going to have a different view. You're going to see the building rather than the trees and the natural, you know, so I think it'd look better with the trees there. The trees are beautiful where they are. I think it also helps with the drainage because I know the naturalization people, when they come out, they want to have, if you remove trees, you have to put bushes back in. So, if we can leave all of that where it is, it's really better natural. And we picked a slightly smaller building than what we could have picked because of being able to position it right there. And the trees are kind of set out where we'll have trees at each four of the corners of the building and then the trees in the back. So, we just want to keep the existing natural barrier. We think it would look better. And we have talked to our neighbors and they're all, they're fine with it. Good. Okay. Well, I know you're in District 1. That's my district as well. I did drive by your home. And I do believe in the trees being there and the natural habitat in your neighborhood. That looks good. I just have one question. So, being that you're building this storage for your garage, is it going to be any electricity inside? No, we're not planning for that or water. We just need somewhere to put, like, our boat and, you know, different things that we, so we don't have those out in the yard. Okay. You know, we want to have those enclosed. It looks better. And we just thought that would work out better. And since we have the land, we, you know, I think right now there's a moratorium against new septic tanks and everything else. So, people can't really build houses. So, I think it's a better use of the land. I don't know. I may be wrong. But that's how I heard. Okay. Thank you. I'm opening up for questions. What's the line? I don't have any questions. But since it was mentioned, I'll put it out there. My understanding is the septic moratorium was lifted. It was lifted? That is my understanding. I got an email to that effect just a couple days ago. Interesting. Because I think we have three people waiting to build houses in our neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah. So. I was going to say, I think. I can clarify if you're like. I'd love to hear your name. You don't mind. Give me one moment. I'll clarify that. Did you step aside? Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry. Billy Prasad, Planning and Development Director. My understanding is that the court did send back the moratorium, basically overturned and sent back to the lower court. But DEP is not issuing permits yet. They're still working on the process and seeing how it plays out. So I don't think we're quite ready to say it's truly lifted for people looking for a permit. But certainly circumstances have changed in the past week. So we're starting with some light at the end of the tunnel, hopefully. Thank you. Thank you for that clarification. Okay. Ms. Clemens? I don't have any questions. Thank you. Okay. Let's just step aside and ask if anyone. Is anyone here in favor to yay or nay on this applicant variance? Would you come down, please? Can I have your name, please? My name is Dale. Oh, into the mic, please. My name is Dale. Okay. And I live on the property, too. I just have a question now that that came about. I know I can't plumb into my existing septic tank. But I wasn't going to put water to the building. But if that's lifted, can I have them put water to it? Plumb in. Or can I plumb the building now? Because I wasn't going to because I wasn't allowed to go to my septic and do it. So let me just say this and bring you back in. And this is for the variance today, not for the water. That's going to be a whole other subject in conversation. You'll have to check with the natural, not natural, environmental health on your septic system and ask them those questions. Okay. Where is that, Mr. Bode? It's over in the building department right across, diagonally across from the building department. Okay. Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Seeing none, come back to the podium, please. Okay. Would you like to make a motion? For it. Yeah, I'd move to approve the variance limited to the approval as depicted on the survey with a revision date of August 4th, 2026. We have a second. I second. Okay. We have a motion to approve. And a second. I'm going to read the six variance hardships. That special conditions and circumstances exist which are not applicable to other land structures or buildings in the applicable zoning classification. That the special conditions and circumstances do not result from the actions of the applicant. That granting the variance requested would not confer on the applicant any special privilege that is denied by the provisions of this chapter to other lands, buildings, or structures in the identical zoning classification. That literal enforcement of the provisions of this chapter would deprive the applicant of rights commonly enjoyed by other properties and the identical zoning classification under the provisions of this chapter will constitute unnecessary and undue hardship on the applicant. That the variance granted is the minimum variance that would make possible the reasonable use of the land, building, or structure. And that the granting the variance would be in harmony with the general intent and purpose of this chapter. And that such use variance would not be injurious to the area involved or otherwise defumential to the public welfare. We're going to do an individualized vote. Mr. Vaughn? Yay. Ms. Clements? Yay. And I approve. Your variance have been approved. Thank you. Thank you very much. Mr. Bode, the next one, please. Thank you, Mr. Bode, for your help, too. You're welcome. Yes, item H3, the FEMI, Court, Inc., and Cecil Martin request variance, Chapter 62, Article 6, Brevard County Code for a principal structure in a TR-1 zoning classification. Applications 26V00060, located in District 1. Good afternoon. Can I have your first and last name, please? No, Russell Fosnacht. I'm sorry. Russell Fosnacht. Okay. Do you swear to tell the truth? Yes, ma'am. How can we help you this afternoon? Trying to get a variance. We bought a—well, I'm a mover. I moved the mobile homes. So I was moving a mobile home for the owners. So I called the county to get my setbacks. Talked to a gentleman, John Hagee. So he gave me my setbacks. So we went out the next day and bought the mobile home. When I put my permit in, John Hagee called me back again and said I made a mistake. I gave the wrong setbacks because Norfolk isn't the front of it anymore. They changed it to a block that would be the front of the house. And that messed the setbacks up where the trailer wouldn't fit. Okay. And so I did it up again. I can make the mobile home fit, but it's going to be 25 foot on the left of the trailer, 36 foot to Norfolk, 25 foot to Larkin, 9 foot to the property in front of it. That's about the only way the trailer would fit. Okay. So let me just reiterate and understand what you're saying to us. Okay. So you have a single-family mobile home, correct? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And in front of the lot for this parcel, to meet the 100 feet lot depth requirement, that's the setback requirement that you need, correct? I made the first one when I called it. I'm sorry? I made the setbacks when Mr. Hagee was using Norfolk foot front, but then he changed it to Larkin, and then I didn't meet the setbacks. So the size of the mobile home is not going to meet the rear setbacks, correct? Correct. Okay. So the requested variance you're asking for today equates to like a 55% deviation, correct? Yes, ma'am. Okay. And we already went out, and I had the owner go out and buy the mobile home after I got the setbacks from John Hagee in the county. I was like, we didn't buy it before, because I've been through this before. So I got the setbacks from him. Then we went out and bought the mobile home. Then when I put my permit in, that's when he called me back and said, I made a mistake. That kind of put me in a spot. Okay. Thank you. Ms. DeBomb, any questions? No, ma'am. No questions. Ms. Clements? I do. I have a question. Why can't you adjust it for Larkin to be the front of the road? What's the... The setbacks won't fit. For Larkin as well? Yes. They did fit for Norfolk, but they didn't fit for Larkin. So why can't you switch the positioning of the mobile home? It's not there, correct? Yes. The owner had it moved to the property. Oh, it's already at the property? Yes. Based on... If we switch this to the other side, it's only 75 foot, and the trail is 66 foot long, it would never go. You'd need a variance either way. Yes. This is the easiest variance. Okay. And then the 32, the notes inside the file, one second, 3217 Norfolk, what's the orientation to your property on that one? Is it directly next door? 321. You have the letter from 3217 Norfolk, and you have a letter from 3100 Larkin. Are those the two adjacent properties? Yes. Okay. No other questions. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. Madam Chair, if I may? Yes. A question for staff. The frontage for the lot is dictated based off the zoning, classifications, lot width, and depth criteria? Yes. Yes. This lot, whenever you're looking at it, it's a corner lot. 75 feet along Larkin, 100 feet along Norfolk. So it doesn't meet the lot depth if you're using Norfolk as your front. It doesn't meet the 100-foot depth. So you have to look at it as Larkin being the front property line. Norfolk is a side street setback. So whenever you're looking at the rear, it would be the opposite of the front, which would be the far west property line where he's asking for the variance to the rear setback. Thank you. Okay. Any other questions? Madam. Okay. Just step aside. Let me see if there's anyone. Is there anyone here that would like to speak in yay or nay for this variance? Okay. I just need you to state your name for the record, please. Hello. My name's Charles Williams. I'm speaking on behalf of Marsha Whitman. Wait. Let me swear you in. Do you swear to tell the truth? Yes, ma'am. Okay. How can we help you? I don't have no problem with the trailer or nothing, and she don't neither, but it's just, it's too close to the property line. You're saying his is too close to the property line? 32-17 is right next door to his. Marsha's, her house is like 11 foot or a little over 11 foot from the property line, and I went and measured the trailer that they're trying to put in on that lot next door, and it's only seven foot from the property line. The chain link fence, I guess, is the property line. That thing has a big bay window. It's, it's only seven foot from the property line to that trailer. I mean, you can sit, you can sit on her for a point looking right in the window of that trailer. It's too close to the property line. The trailer's too big for the lot as far as I'm concerned. No, it's not. Okay. All right. Well, if it gets, if it, if they'd have left it where it was at the first time on the other side of the driveway, because it completely covers the driveway now. If it was left on the other side of that driveway, it wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been no problem, but it might have been that high on the back end of it trying to jack it up because the trailer's so long. And I understand that being a problem. Okay. So what I hear you saying to us today is that you feel his trailer's going to be too close to her property line. To where it sits now. And that they're going to be looking in your window. To where it sits now, yes. Okay. And that they should have it on the other side, correct? Is that what you're saying? Yes. Okay. All right. Hold on, because I see someone wants to join you. Can you step aside? Let me swear her in, please. Can you state your name for the record? Marsha Witham. Do you swear to tell the truth? Yes, ma'am. How can we help you? Like he said, I can sit in my bedroom window. And they're right there. I mean, I'm a 76-year-old widow. My bedroom is right there. When they had it there the first time, I signed a paper for this gentleman that it was okay. And then they moved it closer to my house. And when they did, they tore it in my yard with their big machine. So it's just too big for that lot. If they moved it back to where, like he said, if they moved it back where it was to begin with, there would have been no problem. Okay. But now it's right there next to my house. It's too close. Okay. Thank you. How far is your house? Wait for the fence. Wait, wait, wait, sir. Hold on. Y'all can go back and have a seat, please. Sir, you finished? It's 11 foot. Okay. You can have a seat as well. Thank you. Now come back to the microphone because we need to hear you. 11 foot and 9 foot is 20 foot from her window. No. It's not 8 foot. Okay. 7 foot. No, no. Stop. I don't need you speaking to them. You're going to speak to us. 7 foot and 11 foot is 18 feet from her window. So let me ask you this. So since they're saying that they feel like it's, can emergency vehicles get through there? Through where? Through the egress. Do you have an egress? Not on that one end. I'm sorry? Not on the end. It's by her house. No. Okay. Right. We could. Yeah. We could. If you let, we could. See, we got 25 foot. We could, you could give us 10, I get 15 foot from Larkin and put the other feet that way the trailer would come back and it'd be a way for their property. So what do you think we could do to resolve this today? Give me the variance. Give you a what? The variance I want. Give you the variance you want? Yeah. Okay. So we give you the variance you want. It would be blocking her window, correct? No. I mean. Last week. One second. We just already asked. Yeah. Yes. In her eyes. Not in my eyes. Okay. Okay. All right. Step one aside. Come down, please. Good afternoon. Who? Wait. Good afternoon. Your name? Anthony Spencer. And do you swear to tell the truth? Yes, sir. And Anthony, who are you? I am the owner of the property. You're the owner of the property? Yes. Okay. So they rent from you? These are my contractors that are moving the trailer for me. I moved the mobile homes. You moved the mobile homes. Yes. Okay. So it's your property? Yes. Okay. Are you living in a property? No, ma'am. Okay. You've written it out? Yes, ma'am. Okay. Okay. What would you like to say? To answer your question how we can resolve it today, if we can move the trailer back towards Larkin, we'll be further away from that nice lady's window. Can we do that? Okay. Now, Mr. Bodie? If they move it to meet the 20-foot rear setback, they'd have to apply for a variance to the front 25-foot setback. Okay. Okay. So exactly what would they have to do today? Apply for a new variance? Yes. And that will resolve this? Right. Well, I'm so happy with you all came to it. One of the things I'd like to mention, too, the survey that was provided and the survey in the building permit shows it nine feet from the west rear property line. Right. And this is for a proposed mobile home, if it's put out there and they get an ask built for it and it's at seven feet, as the gentleman just said, they're going to have to come in for another variance. So if it's already put out there, they need to make sure that it meets that, and y'all will approve this variance, they need to make sure that it meets that nine-foot rear setback. Right now, I believe the home is setting where we were told to put it, so we can move it to where it needs to go so we can move forward, which is, I believe, just needs to be moved back towards Larkin. The way that the home is, it's meeting a 25-foot setback right now. Right. It's proposed. And that's the very front setback minimum required. So you're putting it at nine feet from the rear property line. So I don't see how you're going to move it without getting a variance. I understand that. So how far back do we need to move it? If you're trying to put it to the rear setback meet hit, it needs to meet 20 feet from the rear property line, the west property line. So we need to move it five feet? So that would be another 11 feet off of the 25-feet front setback, which would mean it needs, it would only meet 14 feet off the front property line. So you'd need a variance of 11 feet from the front property line. You'd have to come back in, apply for another variance. That I understand about applying for another variance. I didn't get a clear answer to how far do we need to move it. Okay, and right now we are what on our rear setback? Nine feet. Seven. Nine is on the survey. Yeah. It says nine on the survey. And it's proposed. I don't know where it's sitting at. We don't have an as-built survey for it. Okay. Can you do that? Yeah, I mean, is this going to be all right with you guys? Is this going to be all right with you guys? Yes, sir. Sure. Wait, speak of the mic, because we can't hear that. Say that again. Is this going to be all right with these guys? Okay. So, what we can do today, what do you suggest, Mr. Bodie? We could just deny this variance and have them come back with the new variance to make everybody happy. If you'd like to do that, that's up to y'all. Okay. Whatever. Okay, so we don't need any more discussion. Discussion with our members. What do you think? What do you think? I think that would be good. Yeah, I mean, if that's what they need in order to submit the new application, can it be continued with leave to amend the application or something like that? Does that make any difference on how quick it happens or anything like that, cost or anything? We would have to come in with a new survey. We'd have to have it revised. It has to be re-advertised. So, it isn't going to get out, I don't think, in the November meeting. Okay. All right. If y'all deny it, they have to come in, they'll have to move it anyway, and then they'll have to apply for a new variance. Where it's placed, we've got a proposed home on here, not an as-built of where it's located. Okay, so let me see. I feel like it should be. Oh, go ahead. You got a question? You need to speak in the microphone to each other. You can't speak to each other without having to be heard. I'll make a motion to deny. No. Okay. Give me a second. So, we're going to deny this variance. That way, it will allow you to come back neighborly. And what you could do is re-advertise, get a new survey, and come back with a new variance. And that seemed like it would please you and your neighbor. And I think that's the common good that's coming out of this today. All right. Okay? So, this variance has been denied. Let's take a vote on it. Yay to denial. Ms. Clement? Yay to denial. I do have a question, though. You have another question? Yeah, well, where am I going to be on the setbacks? You want it 14 foot from locking? Right now, it requires 20 feet off of the rear property line. If you need it to meet that one, you'll be only 14 feet off the front property line. So, you'll have to apply for a variance of 11 feet from the 25 foot front setback requirement. Okay. Okay. Well, thank you all for coming in. I'm so happy that your law came to a resolution. Have a great day. You too, ma'am. You're welcome. Mr. Bodie, our next variance, please. Item H-4, Verretta Family Trust, request two variances of Chapter 62, Article 6 of our County Code for a swimming pool screening closure and the principal building in an RU-1-11 zoning classification. Applications 26V00062 is located in District 2. Is the applicant here? It doesn't look like the applicant's here. So, I called Mr. Campbell, who's representing these people this morning, and sent them over an email. Mr. Campbell said that he would be here right before 1.30. I'm not sure what happened to him. I would say maybe table the application to the next meeting on November 18th. Madam Chair, I make a motion to table this item to the November 18th Board of Adjustment meeting. Yes. Can I make a comment? I won't be here at that meeting, and that's my district. Is that okay? I guess if we have a quorum of three. Okay. I approve or accept the motion to table until the next meeting. I approve as well. So, we're going to table it to the next meeting of November 18th. There's no more applicants, Mr. Bodie? That's number four. Wait, I see someone sitting in the audience. Did y'all vote on that? We'll take a vote. We'll table it. Let's take a vote to table it. Mr. Bond? Yay. Ms. Clemons? Yay. Ms. Sonia? Yes. Okay. There's someone still sitting in the audience. Are you guys okay? Okay. Well, let's see if we can help you out. I did be sworn. I want to know as if I'm at the right place. Okay. This is for Pablo G. and Anna M. DeLeon. For? It's for a variance of Chapter 62, Article 6. They're not on the schedule. Yes, that one is going to be held in November is what we have it down for. And then they were supposed to also have a survey that was to be updated, right? Would you like to see what I have or let me just tell you? Wednesday, October 14, 2026, 135. That was one that was mailed out? Yeah. Yeah. And you're one of the neighbors on there? I'm 200 feet away. Yeah, but you're a neighbor, right? 200 feet away. Correct. Yeah, that one was not advertised at the time that those letters were sent out yet. So it was moved to November 19th is when it's supposed to be held. So the complimentary letters that you got were incorrect. They were going to mail new ones out November 19th. 18th. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You were going to? I'm sorry. So I showed up here for no apparent reason? Now you know where to go. We'll see you next month. It was never advertised as a problem, so we couldn't hear it. Yeah, we can ask us to move it. All I'm saying is it would be nice to know without, you know, I could have been doing other things. Yeah. Well, it's hard to throw up. Good day. All right. Come back, come back. You can't leave the public comment as well, Mr. Director. Well, we'll call it. But anyway, all I'm going to know is what the plan is for those guys. They're going to have to be heard before the Board of Adjustments. That's why we're here. Yeah. And they didn't have a survey that was a certified survey. All they had was a plot plan, so he needs to get us a certified survey before we can really It would just be easier if I just go visit them. You belong with them? I don't even know them. You know, I can't recommend you doing anything like that. All they might cause of me any trouble, they can do whatever they want. They're 200 feet away. You know, I mean, so, all right. Well, lunch. But we did call this one, and they called us to come. All right. I'm sorry. I know that that's on the letter. Yeah. Yeah. I took off the word. Okay. This meeting is adjourned. Yeah.