Metropolitan Transportation Planning Organization Meeting - Aug 19, 2025

to work and i know that but i appreciate all of you being here every one of you thank you so much we are trying to reorganize ourselves and so um we're kind of learning as we go how we we're doing that so as we as we open this meeting at three o'clock i just need to make sure we're all here and and very quickly you have in front of you um an obituary notice for our friend michael espelante and it is quite uh it's it's a it's a big loss for us because michael has been part of this group for a long time north florida and regional planning and and working with scott coons and now working with us as we trans we transfer our our business locally and um i don't know do you all have something that you wanted to share with this or we're going to just no we don't that's fine i think um just wanted to uh observe a moment of silence yes okay um and also offer up if you wanted among the audience i really appreciated working with my vacation um and it was fun to see him move over to the community side and um kind of be more freely spoken um and really um continue his passion for kind of his little entrepreneurship yes so it's really sad to hear if anybody else would like yes sir certainly so if anybody has anything to share uh michael now's the time to do that he was just one of the nicest people i think i ever met he was just always nice even when circumstances weren't particular and i think the obituary uh references that too and i think there was a picture gallery too that came along with this i think that's what that's what i was asking if we were going to be showing showing this as we take a moment of silence that you all could reflect um his life and his family situation through these photos that were shared for sharing all of that with us and thank you michael for sharing your talents with us as well okay kind of hard to start on a note like that a somber note it's hard to know where to go from there all right um roll call i just we just need to make sure everybody's here uh mayor ward is here and commissioner book yes ma'am hey santos certain miss taylor linda dixon yeah and cynthia chestnut yeah commissioner duncan walker councilman eastman here uh councilman engel will it's here commissioner offered here pristia here cornell quorum commissioner chestnut yeah charleston all right thank you very much for that um and and two i brought back some things from our uh back conference that we had that's what all these little witnesses are for your information i gathered them up out of all the seats that were left over at the end of our presentation okay um agenda review and approval um the agenda is a little wonky i think um we we have had some things that have been marked out that we're not doing i don't know which i've been looking at two agendas brad so i don't know if the new agenda has deleted the so well first off then uh do we need to add in add anything then to the agenda but we wanted to move some things around right with the sheriff's presentation we wanted to move further we'll have some new business items um do you want me to kind of share those yes please yes so that we can have a motion as you all know we have been through the logistics of interim executive we're proceeding with sort of phase two of the hiring process so there are a couple items that uh are going to be added that need to be taken up under new business and actually uh the first one there's actually a handout you can see and it's um it's this handout and it is it's actually an amendment if you you'll notice in the agenda originally the agenda that you have it says that we would appoint an interim executive director and then change all of the um it shouldn't be one at everybody's and so so those things include like the public participation plan and the tip and the upwp the upwp actually has to be amended uh to reflect the key the key person uh for staff director uh and so we added this as a as a new business item because after you do the appointment it's not just that we can change the name we actually have to do an amendment and so that will be under new business once you appoint a new interim executive director uh that will be reflected in in the upwp and that's just really important because it allows you to access federal funding federal planning funds uh the other item uh we have is uh is related to that jeff we still we still need to do the um the item on hiring the cert firm it's informational so i can okay so definitely do that and then we we also uh are going to have to uh potentially we want to once the the bylaws are actually made we need to amend the upwp and this just came up because there's an opportunity for travel for training and attendance to the mpoac uh and the training session and we need to reflect that in the upwp uh so that those those funds can be utilized for that travel and training so that will be something that allison will present to the group this year okay those are all the under new business and information okay so okay so if you've had a chance to review this agenda and understand that we are moving our our sheriff's department folks up no chair of new agendas presented with the removal of the um the addition of the amendment to the upwp and request for training funds and ask that we move informational item a the discussion of safety with lunch parish sheriff's office before um our public well i guess before our activators yes okay thank you that was relevant because i still have trouble understanding what all those letters mean all right any further discussion yeah and to the motion well can we get clarity i thought that i hear removal of the upwp no i said adding adding adding adding the amendment yeah okay okay any further discussions do i hear anyone from the community who has issues with our agenda seeing none all in favor say aye aye i sign opposed all right then okay i'm standing because there's so many of us here and it's easier for me to see right now um mark you don't see how many people are in this room okay i'm glad to sit down thank you thank you okay all right so um oh also to uh proven all the minutes you guys have you had a chance to look at them yeah so moved all right motion to approve by commissioner alford and seconded by commissioner easton yeah okay all right thank you any further discussion all in favor say aye aye all right thank you very much that motion passes unanimously um five o'clock tonight you guys you may not have been aware there's a five o'clock public hearing for the adoption of the long-range transportation plan there needs to be a public hearing in advance and we we wanted to make sure that it was a time certain and and not you got to show up at three for something that might be on the agenda at 4 45 so we advertise it as a five o'clock public hearing um if by any chance you complete this agenda before five o'clock we will adjourn for a short period and come back for that and then you'll have to adopt the actual lrtp cost feasible so it's a little wonky but it it's uh better for public uh for the public in terms of their opportunity to hear about the lrtp offer comments and that before it's adopted the long-range the long-range transportation plan yes thank you okay excuse me i'm the mayor yes all right do we have any uh special um uh quorum requirements for the lrtp as long as we have a basic quorum we're good to pass it oh yeah yes yes because i may have to slip out before that okay all right thank you all right then we'll see you all at five okay so action items now what we're going to do is uh welcome our our team of folks from the sheriff's department i'm going to put you all up front we do have a podium okay okay mark is also asking that everybody use the mics uh to their best advantage so they can hear they can't hear anything up there but we can hear you sir good evening um i'm sheriff scott with the lodge county sheriff's office um i have my entire uh traffic team here all the way from uh major bestinger um captain joe van gore sergeant fricker deputy sheriff uh joe coppick and ricky robinson and lieutenant eric hester which is going to be giving you guys a presenting a presentation about the the traffic enforcement throughout the county and also here is my illustrious undersheriff joshua cruz but with no further ado i have lieutenant hester um present good afternoon how's everybody today we could go to the next slide so what back in the spring we were asked to compile some some statistics we were asked to compile some statistics for you guys thank you you won't see that all right i don't know if you need to adjust the front light maybe need to be dimmed a little bit that's what i'm wondering where it might be well pick me four tries that's good well done much better so back in the spring when this topic first came up we were asked to compile some numbers for traffic related stats as we've done here throughout the next several slides this got rescheduled a few months i think it was originally planned for somewhere around march but here we are in august so as far as the 25 numbers we're going to discuss here in a few minutes it'll carry up till august 7th so from august 8th till date we didn't capture those numbers but beginning with calendar year 2024 what we've done is we've captured a large snapshot so for the entire calendar year you'll see that we were almost 16 000 traffic stops countywide regardless of it being unincorporated or in a municipality we were just just south of 16 000 traffic stops broke that down further to give you an idea of those traffic stops how many resulted in a written citation and written warnings regardless of the traffic stop you could have a verbal warning also encompassed with that citation or the written warning but you'll see about 50 percent of traffic stops conducted in alachua county result in a written citation we've noticed that since january 1 to date or till august 7th that same trend has kind of remained the same now diving a little bit deeper into those numbers we have those 15 455 traffic stops broken down further and we're going to look at it by city so about 2 600 of those traffic stops are conducted throughout the municipalities within alachua county and you'll see that the legend on the bottom breaks down each of the the cities there at the top you have about 1200 traffic stops are being conducted in newberry for the calendar year 2024 on around to waldo followed by archer lacrosse i'm sorry hawthorne then lacrosse and micanope now breaking that down a little bit further we're going to look at how many citations were issued along or within those traffic stops that were conducted by municipalities so for 2024 about 1500 citations were written within the municipalities throughout the county and you'll see that the bulk of those were issued in hawthorne about 500 citations were issued in i'm sorry it's a disproportionate amount based on the number of stops that you had in newberry and how big newberry is and then the number that were written in hawthorne it just seems disproportionate or it's not seen in archer there's an explanation with that and you'll see once we get to 25 it kind of balances out and looks pretty pretty similar but in 24 there was a deputy that was assigned in that area he was very passionate about traffic enforcement and he's known to issue multiple citations for for traffic stop going back up to the right though you'll see waldo and newberry are about neck and neck and the citations being issued on wednesdays our traffic team goes to both of those those cities they visit both hawthorne and waldo weekly and enforce traffic so if there's any question why those numbers are the way they are that there there's a day dedicated just to those two towns next slide still encounter year 24 looking at written warnings for the breakdown from that original snapshot of how many traffic stops are conducted in each town here there's about 928 written warnings conducted throughout all the municipalities with a breakdown town by town uh newberry leading the way about 320 written warnings on around with 270 in archer and 162 in in in hawthorne and to look at one more stat before we close out that year we're going to look at verbal warnings so it's very difficult to capture how many true written i'm sorry verbal warnings are conducted on a traffic stop because we have what's considered a primary and a secondary infraction so if i stop somebody for for speeding and then throughout that contact i discover they may have an expired insurance card or something along those lines i can issue my citation for that secondary infraction and just give them a warning for the speed that verbal warning doesn't get captured on that stop because it's closed out with the citation being issued so essentially any citation that's issued for a secondary violation you can guarantee a verbal warning was issued along with that but this is a breakdown of just the the traffic stops that were closed out or had a disposition of just a verbal warning so there was no written warning no citation issue they were just stopped for said violation issued a verbal warning and then sent along their way here you have for 2024 newberry received about 400 verbal warnings hawthorne right behind them was 69 archer 54 and waldo 37 any questions there for 25 january 1 again to august 7th about just short of 8 900 traffic stops have been conducted and you'll see that trend of about half of our traffic stops resulting in a citation are still about 50 percent so 4 300 citations have been issued up until august 7th 30 almost 3600 written warnings breaking those down the same way we did for 2024 looking at each of the municipalities about of those total traffic stops about 463 were conducted throughout all of the towns largest amount being in newberry about 671 traffic stops conducted in newberry followed by hawthorne and uh archer 269 and 259 respectively looking deeper into that by citations about 617 citations were issued in those towns all of them are essentially about the same there's not a big discrepancy there until we look at lacrosse lacrosse had the fewest with about five citations issued it's still kind of like probably disproportionate though the amount of citations compared to the amount of stops so like newberry gets i don't know like a little bit better than twice as many traffic stops as any other city but not really out of line on the number of citations they get for some reason they're like those percentages are so far off in the different places i don't have exact data to explain that but my understanding would be that if nobody's ever heard the term we call newberry copland a lot of law enforcement officers live in the area of newberry so i'm thinking is causing that skew as we have a lot of deputies that are either commuting to or from work they see a violation they're either trying to get home or trying to get to work so they enforce the traffic violation by giving them a warning the traffic stops still logged as a as a number as we've seen in the presentation but because they just give them a a verbal warning you're seeing that that big discrepancy between stop volume and how many written contacts so thank you madam chair i would i would guess that it probably has a lot to do with that people drive really fast on 301 so i mean it's just 26. no i mean on hawthorne the the disparity there is that probably people that trust me they drive real fast on the very road too absolutely but but the 301 is a a major through highway yeah and i think there's probably less opportunity for things to be maybe maybe not than there are on 26. that's a guess i mean i between 98 commissioner alford i'm not sure do we do you track at all if the uh citations are issued to a lot of county resident or not because you know we have 60 000 or so people a day commute into the county so i'm curious like for instance archer i know right where they sit to issue tickets in archer most of the time and most of those people they're stopping have just crossed the county line coming from lee county so i'm just curious if that data could definitely be captured we did not do it for the purposes of this presentation that would be an interesting number i think to look at i've just just out of you know because i i i think for some of our small towns you know a lot of the traffic issues are are from folks that don't actually live there you'll get the same on both 301 and absolutely interstate because much of that traffic is just traveling through the county and doesn't reside here yeah i i was just uh curious about that all right thank you now moving on from citations written warnings about 513 written warnings were issued calendar of january 1 till august 7th throughout those municipalities most of them were about on on par with one other with exception of the the three smaller towns you have uh lacrosse archer and hawthorne in there you don't have high springs in the last one years because they had their own correct yes same with uh city of games we didn't we didn't capture any of that either and then finally we have verbal warnings for january 1 till august 7th the the largest being issued out in newberry followed by waldo then archer and hawthorne right there about same 54 and 49 micanope and lacrosse receiving the the fewest because there's a very low volume of traffic software what we did do though in in capturing all of this data we found some interesting results and what that is broken down right here so about 10 of all of the the citations issued are revolving around speeding so there's definitely a speeding issue within the county didn't go deeper into that to try to find out where exactly those speeding citations are being issued if it's on 301 if it's on newberry road or interstate but about 10 of all the citations issued are specifically for for the violation of speeding next is going to be an insurance violation that could be expired insurance or they didn't present the card upon demand something along those lines that's what we consider a secondary infraction so they were stopped for some other primary violation and the result of that stop was they were issued that citation it could have been another speeding violation and the deputy just chose not to issue a citation for for that original infraction then the following three that we found here were also secondary with exception of the seat belt violation but license violations that could be not changed in the address within the time frame required or just not having it on their person also registration just like the insurance they potentially didn't have it on their in their possession or in the vehicle upon demand couldn't present it all three of those make up about one percent of the total citations issued in the county did you have i did i was just curious because this adds up to 15 percent where's the other 85 percent it makes up a very long list okay so grab the statute book it could be any one of those but these were the the top five citations or infractions within the statutes that are most visited kind of amazing all right thank you that wraps it up for this presentation any questions can you talk specifically about how you all handle um traffic and speeding enforcement in school zones in the unincorporated area in the small cities as far as most of it's complaint driven we'll receive complaints and then this literally is the entirety of our traffic unit so you see there's there's three of them here to include the field supervisors so there's not a lot of the deputy to go around all the different towns so lots of county is pretty large about what 900 square square miles then we have three guys to do it but most of it again complaint driven we'll receive complaints we'll activate these guys and they'll go out and hit those areas but obviously we're starting week two so week one their mission is to go out and hit those school zones and try to conquer and divide as best they can but i think the primary is just based off of complaints received we i i really appreciate y'all's work in that area it's definitely something that's been a big focus of conversations at this mtpo we've had a lot of parents coming both to the board of county commissioners and to this board to talk about the speeding issues in our school zones and particularly in places like hawthorne where there are high speed highways that intersect those school areas and um and the the real danger to our children in that front also up in alachua i think is another spot where we've had a lot of flagging of that issue so we just really appreciate special attention to that specific issue and yes ma'am i appreciate that that attention i know we're getting ready to do some traffic cameras and if those work maybe those will help um reduce you know staffing levels and still allow us to have better enforcement in those areas so we'll look forward to hearing how that goes as well yes ma'am right now okay i just want to ask if we could get a copy of the presentation i've ran a few copies of this okay obviously the presentation is on that computer buying you're welcome to that file but i'll leave the copies of the hard copies that i brought that'd be great thank you thank you 335 guys put the battle across up there there's that school uh the kreishna school and the last choice learning center you know we're trying to get some focus on that road too because of the big truck traffic that's going through there it's pretty fast and uh there have been some uh near death and and some some bad accidents out there where people have died because those trucks run through like it's their own raceway just just saying thank you yes ma'am any other questions yes ma'am waldo in about the slide but i would like to thank the sheriff's department for you guys visibility out in waldo but of course you know i'm going to always have an ask uh in the morning time when it's time that right as i said around school if we could kind of have um maybe every now and then a deputy ride up and down 24 as the buses are leaving out and the parents who have to take their kids it's kind of hard for them to even still turn out onto 24 right from up cold street i think it is to turn out so um yeah you guys kind of patrol there but other than that thank you you said 24 on cold street that was the first thing in the morning you guys and thank you very much thank you and you said there are three currently there's just the three the three deputies that do traffic and speed enforcement well yes um we had one just recently went to school resource to fill a position over there for right now but we do plan as we continue to fill the patrol positions we do plan to add those traffic units back which is two more i think right correction five total but we do receive us i receive numerous complaints every day about traffic and and they funnel right to me and i funnel right to these guys and they jump right on it so they're very busy every day thank you sir i have a quick question um before we let you go we have um a couple of representatives here from a very vulnerable population do you all have on your and in your eye your sites anywhere where these vulnerable populations are we don't always mark like that if there's a blind person living in the area or if there's someone who's using a chair you know do you guys and your your community policing keep track of maybe some of those more vulnerable residents or is that something that you could think about doing i believe our communications dispatch captures that and they have it logged if it's attached to an area or the address i believe they do okay good good just so that you know we have those folks that are you know in living in the area who may need a little extra attention yes okay okay uh miss jane chill yeah can you let's see get you a get you a mic well one of them they won't reach hi i'm jody jane chill and i'm a member of this community i am visually impaired and i just had a question in regards to piggyback on what she said that i cross very often 39th avenue and 51st street and there is a button there to allow like for me to auditorily hear what's going on however so many people tell me oh my god you cross that street there's accidents there all the time and one time i was crossing and i heard large skid marks almost got hit so what can be done about that about what time of day do you i avoid i avoid four to six o'clock but those are the times i also want to be crossing and using it but i try not to go during those times because it's really scary the the other times it's not as bad so you all at least know their people in that area right and and i notated it but i know these gentlemen behind you they go out and they visit 39th avenue often in the entire corridor and when they go on 39th avenue they try to focus on the unincorporated area outside of the city of gamesville i believe that intersection is unincorporated but our folks do target that area i know fhp does as well but again we have a very large territory just for to try to just try to do it and one of the issues we're running into is cell phone use um cell phone use and vehicles and and trying to educate the public on not using their cell phone while the vehicle is in motion um we've challenged the traffic unit with writing more citations for that we're going to take kind of a zero tolerance approach to that um not give a whole bunch of warnings for it because we're seeing our fatalities and our injury uh our crashes with injuries going up and we believe that the cell phone use is a large contributing factor and it's going to contribute to what's going on there they're not seeing the red light because they're they're scrolling um so we'll do the best we can uh to educate the public on this and and to issue citations whenever it's applicable for that violation so um any other other questions before we turn them loose back on the community thank you guys so much thanks for having me thank you thank you all right thank you gentlemen you may be excused take the afternoon off okay uh back to our agenda so we want to start with the action items mr thoburn that's okay no no i'm i just see your name when i just see your name right here at the top and i'm i'm tossing in your way it's you know you know very quickly before you start mr thoburn one of the things that's hard for me to remember is who owns what streets and who's responsible for what area and i had asked to decay if she would come up with the list for us you know as to which who owns what then this responsible tattoo so you guys are much better at that i'm looking for landmarks but you all pretty much know where the roads are and as the community has changed i have a hard time keeping up with who owns what um miss jameshiel is living in an area that's unincorporated but it's right at the edge of the city that's right one quarter of that is the city so in terms of trying to help her i haven't been able to help you know put all the pieces together so my understanding is the city has a map in their gis system that can show you ownership okay good thank you on that thank you yeah um whenever i get this question i just google well the city of gainesville's transportation maps it's right on there if i ever get a question it's you know nicely colored based on whether it's state county or her city okay and it's what is where is that all right yeah it's gainsville transportation maps i think is where it's located yeah i'm getting i'm getting it it's over pull us together here so we're in kind of an interesting situation we're trying to buy a little bit of time um because we just got the executed interlocal from fdot this morning and allison took it over to uf and i think put them in a pretty difficult position of having to receive and execute the day of and so we're i know linda's been pinging people hoping that we could buy some time and get a get an electronic copy of it we do not have the final signature on the interlocal agreement establishing so our agenda is starts with an item which is the adoption of the bylaws the plan was to adopt the bylaws at the beginning to reflect the new membership so that the new membership can vote so and now we'll kind of look to is corbin okay um so yeah you have to stop voting yeah i'm not but they are a member so they're not voting so they have to execute it um so one of the thoughts we have is we're trying to buy time but i don't know if it's realistic because it's we're kind of putting you up in a tough spot the last day to you know knowing legal review even though they've reviewed it they still are going to go back through and it's it's probably it's a tall order so um we the bylaws could be adopted um contingent on the execution of the interlocal or we could take it up at the next meeting but the members could could not still would not be able to vote until that is that interlocal is executed so it's sort of a discretion of the board and that's why i was going to look to to to corbin to make sure we could do that i would recommend that we adopt the bylaws um that if uf has any changes to those that we can bring that up at the next meeting which would require as i read them two-thirds vote 10 of the 15 voting members could then amend the bylaws uh that way we get all of them out and get going that's your motion motion yes second all right i have a motion commissioner cornell and uh commissioner chesma second cynthia chesma any further discussion do you understand what you're doing yes yeah um and i just on the actual um uh material changes to the bylaws i i feel comfortable we went we talked about these a bit i mean really all it does is uh do what you know we've been talking about for a while which is the um allowing the rural member on a rotating basis seating the airport authority seating the uh the elatto county school board having uf remain as a non-voting member i think the quorum requirements change so that it's now 50 plus one and there has to be one city and one county um and then the rest i think is just state law changes unless i'm missing anything material that's that's that's correct it's just uh all the statutory references updated in consistency with the ila uh and then it the other thing that was done was sort of consolidating the old bylaws kind of went through and and sort of repeated everything based on the tac and the cac and and the bpab and and so we did consolidate sort of some of that piece of it so it's a little it's a much more condensed document but uh so it's a little bit simplified i think over the years it just kept growing and growing and um and so we kind of took the opportunity to streamline a little bit uh but again the biggest thing is it reflects the current um uh kind of organization as an independent leading organization that is uh supported with county services um and uh and that uh with their new members based on the update of the census and the new interlocal equipment questions what does this mean if we do this that they can vote they still can't no oh no the the new they're still down voting ex officio members until we get the final execution when we sit at the next meeting unless something miraculously happens in the next meeting all right all right thank you any further questions i don't know if we need do these do these votes that we're taking for this now to be open to the public comment everything all right anyone from the public who would like to comment on the the motion all right all in favor here say aye aye thank you very much all right so far so good all right brad so the next the next item i'm going to defer to jeff on because it is an amendment to the county services agreement that will enable the next item on the agenda be taken up madam chair so uh this is in relation to obviously a number of months ago we as the county entered into an agreement with the mtpo to provide staff services human resources you know fiscal assistance etc one element that we didn't provide was interim executive director status and as you know you were unsuccessful recently in being able to hire a permanent executive director and so this has become necessary as brad and his group slowly sort of wind down their participation that you do have an interim executive director so the staff services agreement that's in your backup will allow the county manager or the county manager's designee to be able to provide that executive function on an interim basis so to provide all of the functions that you just adopted in your bylaws that are the responsibility of an executive director so and so as that stands i've spoken with the county manager she's comfortable with that arrangement and she's comfortable that it would be allison moss who's our transportation planning manager in our in the growth management department who's been really working with brad a lot on these agendas and getting these meetings you know before you so the only difference in the backup that you had in front of you with that change to the agreement is that it would just be effective upon execution so this would go to a board agenda on the first meeting in september and so as soon as the board of county commissioners agrees to it it would it would become effective any questions are we okay without a director until that time until september we don't have to not you don't have any any uh okay any meetings between now and then okay so there's no concern a move amendment of the county staff services agreement to allow for interim executive director support i was just going to make a motion okay all right all right sorry you were actually raising your hand any questions any further concerns from the board from the all right all in favor say aye aye that motion passes unanimously all right moving on so the next item is actually the appointment of an interim executive director and i'm going to i'm going to introduce it and hand it off to jeff because i think there's some tweaking of the language maybe that we need to to look at because the intent was to is to appoint allison as the interim executive director and it's really important that she is recognized in that capacity because all the documents like the public participation plan uh the transportation improvement plan the lrtp which we'll adopt later today and uh very importantly the unified planning work program recognize her now just there's some logistics with the county where the actual appointment needs needs to be made by the county manager but within those documents we need to acknowledge that allison is the key staff person and so the and we'll have an action item later to to recognize her as the key staff person for the unified planning work program because that actually requires an amendment staff can't just change the name does that require a roll call vote or can it be folded into the same motion um we will do it as that we'll do that as new business so that it stands alone okay and uh i think it's just important for fhwa and fdot to see that we have recognize her as the key staff person and especially up yeah did i capture i think you capture that perfectly and the only nuance would be that it really is the county manager their designee it's just that we can be very clear that the designee at this point is allison moss and if that changed for some reason it finally gets allison gets a better job somewhere else and it leaves um then we would just need to amend that upwp again and i want to acknowledge uh okay are we good i mean just want i know we kind of were playing around with language just to like make everybody's world work but i think we got it okay okay so just just to be clear because i'm as i'm reading through this interlocal agreement i guess the motion would be because it says upon request by the mtpo board acceptance by the alachua county managers so i guess the motion would be that we are officially that the mtpo board is requesting alachua county to appoint an interim executive director at this point and that that be allison is that are you comfortable with it i'm comfortable with you requesting that yeah okay that that is that is the request um to request this of the county manager and that would be allison moss all right thank you commissioner eason and seconded by two people two or three people questions concerns i do want to say that um allison moss has been really tremendous through this whole process this process has not been um this has been outside the lines of typical government work where you're trying to figure out how to keep the train running while also you know protect uh you know protect the organizations make sure that you're passing all of your audits making sure you're going through everything while still thinking outside the box and building kind of a startup within a governmental entity allison has been great brad has been great i sent an email to acaa as uh to the fdot secretary this morning talking about how great acaa was um everyone has been tremendous i'm very happy that allison is willing to take this on above and beyond her regular duties which are a lot she's doing a lot of great transportation work within the county um she was you know somewhat i don't want to be outside reluctant to take on more responsibilities but she's willing to do it because this is the support thank you thank you thank you for that but that's exactly right i don't want to yes i think i'll be honest about but she's kind of informally agreed to continue to provide and she's been providing important support as well so this is a little a lot of teamwork that's happening excellent where is she where is she okay thank you so much so this the motion that's in here has us appointing the interim executive director as alice most and directing staff to update all plans plans including the public participation plan the transportation improvement plan the upwp and lrtp to reflect this appointment i i think that the motion was the motion that was moved by commissioner eastman was there was more on point with what we need what we discussed so that was to actually direct request that the county appoint an interim and that had an interim be allison moss and that we update those those documents but we will have a specific item later on the upwp because that needs to be an amendment we'll make sure that's reflected properly in the record any further questions yeah thank you madam chair i you know we have added like commissioner eastman said some significant um duties a little bit outside the realm of just county management and i wondered if um that would there was consideration for additional compensation in that regard yeah i think we had discussed that didn't we brian during yes and madam chair we at the county we have policies for that for working out of class or special projects okay so that that is part of the consideration so that will be part so assuming that this motion goes forward that's kind of built into your policy there yeah that's all i want to hear thank you thank you for asking all right any further questions any questions or concerns from the community all right seeing none all in favor say aye aye sign opposed that motion passes unanimously thank you okay so we i've got a couple of different agendas up here did we so we removed we removed d and that will be right that will be discussed at the um the update of the subcommittee so the next item is uh is the amendment to for additional pl funds uh uh in the upwp and and because this is additional funding even though it's not a a large amount it's 20 not insignificant 23 000 but this is funding that the the department identified and and allocated uh for uh for the mtpo to include in the upwp so because it's new funds that needs to be amended the upwp needs to be amended and uh of note there's also additional um and we'll address this in the tip but there is uh there is a roll forward of 75 roughly 75 000 for um for from current fiscal year next fiscal year and it's all within the the data collection area so um again that gives resources for the um for the mtpo to do additional planning work uh uh in the coming year so this is simply uh an amendment for uh those additional planning funds to be added to the upw ppl what is that planning funds planning planning so they are 5305 planning funds got it that's the section it's the section in the statute that they so they'll refer to them as 5305 planning funds gotcha okay thank you motion in the second cornell and alford any further questions concerns anything from the community all right all in favor say aye aye like sign opposed thank you the mission passes unanimously thank you mr thoburn and then the uh the next one is uh the next one is uh 75 000 uh that's in in the uh planning funds that will be moved from current year to the next fiscal year and this is a move approval of the tip modification providing the additional funds all right all right all right all in favor say aye aye thank you that motion passes unanimously okay roll roll forward report a minute this is uh every uh something that you do annually uh there are always uh going to be projects that uh are simply uh need to be rolled forwarded and rolled forward in the transportation improvement program for for variety of reasons that haven't been uh haven't started work uh and need to be reflected in the current fiscal year and uh and so there is a report attached that shows you which projects there are that will be rolled forward again this is this is a a sort of standard annual process that happens and uh uh obviously uh you know that list is is there for uh for your information if you want to review that but uh it's important that the that the projects continue to move forward and are reflected in the current fiscal year so they can be enacted because otherwise they fall out of the tip and you want them in the tip so any further questions motion i'll move set recommendation all right thank you good motion okay um any further questions all right roll forwards are good all right on anybody from the community uh that was engel and cynthia chestnut sorry all right on paper say aye aye all right like to sign opposed that motion passes unanimously all right mr thurbin you got a couple more i do so the next one is the uh we call affectionately for it is the icar it's the intergovernmental coordination and review interlocal agreement that is required uh by by uh prior federally and to so that modal partners and uh regional planning agencies coordinate in the review of documents and make sure there's consistency between plans and so this is uh an update to the icar agreement that now includes the uh the airport uh and and so previously included uh the uh the city as functioning as the transit agency but also will include the department and the regional planning council um the regional planning council was on it before but not in their capacity as providing staff support just because they have to be a partner agency so uh of note everybody uh that is a signatory to this has executed the agreement except the regional planning council but they have it on their board agenda uh for i think the 28th here and so once that is and so this simply authorizes uh the chair to execute that agreement it's a little different than the other interlocal where the where it was the the board and the mpo as a board was not a party to necessarily it was enacting the board uh this one is one where the board is a party to it and so you have to authorize the chair to execute that agreement and that agreement is attached in your report packet we have to authorize the chair to execute the icar in a local agreement second motion by prissy a second by peason all right thank you very much any questions for mr thoburn on that anyone from the community all right back to the board all in favor say aye aye like sign opposed all right that motion passes unanimously mr thoburn you're on the roll our last item uh is uh in our continuing effort to uh add people to the citizen advisory committee we have another uh nominee uh miss kathy norman who's uh worked in the education field for her entire career and uh and has a strong understanding of the needs of the community according to her application and uh uh again it's important that we continue to bring uh community uh partners in to uh to be part of the process uh regrettably we lost mike so we're we have we have uh four members now and so this we uh we definitely need more uh but uh but uh miss norman would uh be uh another member of the citizen advisory committee so uh staff recommends that uh you approve her appointment to the citizen advisory committee move appointing kathy norman to the citizens advisory council second and would miss norman like to speak we yes we have time certain in an hour and we have a couple of items left so if ms norman would like to speak there's plenty of time as many people in this room i'm glad thank you is she here is she is kathy kathy norman here no all right all right well we'll be glad to see her when she how many are on that board now did you say four four and and this will be five okay five now and what is what are we looking for to fill that up to 15 so you know so anyone in this anyone in this that's what i was going to say in this room and uh miss jane chill that may be a place too that you know some of you all could join that and it's important that that group has a representation from legally from various communities so that would be something for miss hamilton and miss jane chilton yes this is it is different this is a uh advisory committee so that would be it would be a good place for you to be i'll get you the information okay um i have a motion and a second to appoint kathy norman to the mtpo uh citizen board uh any concerns from the community or not all in favor say aye all right no motion passes unanimously look forward to meeting miss norman all right are we down to the information items now brad is that where we are and um we do have new business if you'd like to take that after the information items or before your preferences do it yes if you you have something new yeah and i know that the the um you have an attachment or not but just a handout that is you should you don't have i have an extra that this simply uh modifies upwp to recognize uh allison and as the key staff person as the key staff person actually i acknowledges jeff as that's also supporting so we we but he but they want one they want one key staff person so that's critical that they see that and uh uh so this will be an amendment to the upwp to acknowledge uh to to identify uh miss moss as the key staff person all right all right i would like i'd like to move that the mtpo modify the upwp to acknowledge allison moss as the key staff person second motion in the second eastman and priscilla all right any further questions concerns anyone from the community have any concerns or questions all right all in favor say aye aye like sign opposed wonderful thank you we're knocking this out a little bit at a time no it's great we'll get there um do we need do we want to take up the item on the travel or do you want to maybe we take that up in your mpo ac update okay okay so commissioner eastman you're up next perfect uh thank you guys so um we as you guys know we canceled the last meeting moved it over to a governance subcommittee meeting actually let me go back to the meeting before that so um we uh we had been going through this whole process was sort of the end goal in mind is that we needed to have an executive director that would staff up a new leaning independent mtpo organization um we obviously we entered we interviewed there was one applicant that was left mr benino perez um i had been tasked with negotiating between mr perez and the mtpo um we went back and forth for uh for about two weeks with various you know questions about salary about um you know what kind of benefits i'd say at the end of it um it was a big decision for mr perez to decide whether he wanted to move down to florida um where his crew was going we were we had offered him the position we had one person left i would say that mr perez was still kind of deciding out of all of his options in front of him where did he want his career to go and i kind of i pressed to him you know we need an answer by about about a week ahead of when our mtpo so we can get it on there so that it is in the sun shines that folks know um and he and at that point he said that he uh is withdrawing his name which meant that then that's when we converted from our regular full mtpo to the subcommittee meeting um our subcommittee meeting we kind of looked back and said okay well how did we do the search process originally how do we make sure that it is more open that we get you know some more applicants that are in there and that that might fit more into there what lessons could we learn from the first time around that we could do better next time i'd say there was two main things that came out of that one was that um uh that we probably should have the first time hired an outside search firm that would help you know go out look for folks within the transportation world find um you know reach out to them be proactive with it and really hold their hands through the process because this was so intergovernmental between the mtpo working with county hr having its own board um having someone that can walk us through the process would have is would have been better um and i think that we might need to have a discussion about voting on that officially but that is something that we would like to move forward on this one and the other one which alison moss kind of insinuated in the last uh discussion was that our level our supervisory experience level of 10 years was just high for planning that a lot of times you have to be fairly far along in your career before you start supervising people and that's when the clock starts running on that 10-year supervisory experience and so as we were talking about putting it back out we decided to just one bring that down to five years and make the language a little more flexible to say supervisor experience or project management experience um uh to to go out with that um i uh and so i the next steps in the process i'm not sure what the timelines look like with this because the search firm coming in sort of changes with what's going on with hr but i did speak with uh jeff hayes about about potentially needing for that the search firm to be an official motion from this body okay so then so that is the plan going forward in case anyone has any feedback or changes that you would like with it but we're trying to get this process moving forward thankfully we have an interim executive director and allison moss that we want to make sure that we're getting someone in who can build the organization up and get let her get back to her full-time work you know doing doing the county transportation work that is the uh that is the plan as it stands now questions for brian so going to a national search firm um is that just because the the type of person we're looking for is is perhaps happily working somewhere and we really need in essence like a headhunter to really to go poke into all these organizations and find out who might want to have a step towards florida retirement by coming down here for five years or something like that so it's just it's not that we didn't we did we we did we advertise we advertised originally but this would be someone who really digs into all the existing transportation organizations and finds people who are ready for this next step all of our my understanding is that all of our charters go we do it very similarly with our charters where we will go out we have a firm that helps search for this i mean for this executive level position a lot of times it is people that are working actively and that a search firm is you know it it just helps bring in more applicants and it's likely we probably would have gotten some more out of that okay thank you yeah i also wanted to make a point that you know the search firm also can pitch alachua county gainesville which i think for a lot of people you know florida might not be at the top of their list but they might be very interested in alachua county gainesville if they understand this community and in what it's about so i think that um that's another i think real benefit of having a search firm out there yeah this committee's worked real hard brian you've done a good job he has he's been on that you really have it's been very professional and very um up front and i appreciate your leadership on that thank you madam chair there is oh hey there's one thing i forgot to mention but uh commissioner book did you have a question i did yeah you want to go or you want oh one thing that um it was originally on the agenda but we ended up taking it off is that in order to give allison the support that she needs to kind of take off some of the the more administrative work um we will below our procurement threshold at 35 000 where uh staff is allowed to procure out some of the tasks like this one so they're going to be procuring with hdr similar to the role that they have now where they'll be helping out with the agendas helping out with the you know scheduling some of the more administrative tasks um that doesn't require a vote of the board but it's something that we just wanted to be that they wanted out in the open in case anyone had any questions or any feedback on it that was it yeah no thank you commissioner so no i really appreciate the work of the subcommittee it's been outstanding and just the fact that we have more people in the galley today and we're getting more input is is a function of us reorganizing over the last year i would say for the threshold the 10-year um 10-year supervisor was an incredibly high bar it's the supervisory capability that makes it a high bar not the project management and any language as you talk about the five-year project management or supervisor i would say write that language as flexibly as possible so that we get the widest possible pool to consider and then allow the uh the subcommittee or the greater mtpo body to basically whittle those down to carriage because we need that wide pool it's a there's a lot of expertise in there that would be my thought i think i think i think in hindsight that that i mean that's very clear in hindsight and this is our first time going through the process and so we'll do that better next time thank you thank you mr dogan what about safe roads initiative this is uh provided for your information there's a letter from sean duffy secretary of transportation this is a federal effort to focus on improving safety um noting that a focus on non-freeway arterials within the state uh will be the focus and um where these are areas where certain routes that comprise more than half of the roadway fatalities in in the country and so um uh well i'm going to kind of not give a full overview of the the initiative but uh in short um the department is putting a priority list together and that these will will focus on operational improvements that address safety on on certain roads and we'll we'll have uh heightened attention on them and that uh and that will be reviewed uh at you know at the end of the fiscal year and and beyond to kind of assess the success in in in reducing fatality so this is uh initiative where the state and i and i know it came up at the mpoac meeting where they're uh putting that list together and setting those priorities so that information is just provided for for you uh to your awareness the letter does ask that we submit a list of locations to the division's office so our does our staff have the time to put together a list of some of our i mean i know i could probably list off a few like newberry road slash university avenue is some priority area there's a list that's attached there of the alachua county so it's kind of it's something that for the department was pretty easy because it's already there's already that collaboration between the department and the locals and the mpo to to to identify those priority okay any other questions thank you okay you do sorry i just want to make sure on that list most people get accusing it 441 in the heart of gainesville like around university avenue and around campus that is on the list or i might have missed it but i didn't see it on there but i think that is a that should be a priority we can double check and i'll it's i think it's university avenue where it crosses 441 they've got on here i don't know yeah yeah it shouldn't like all like make that view i agree down or like 441 throughout the city games yeah i guess that would be requested you go to that 441 and and it's it's one you know obviously where you have planned improvements that you can accelerate too so it's you know the the practical nature of implementing the they want they want to be able to do things quickly so they're only operational and the things where there's there's already been some plans that you can accelerate this so but we can i know okay we'll take that back too don't don't we have an improved plan on a 441 at archer road or is that just classified as archer road instead of being part of 441 but i mean the slip lane on southbound 441 so that's why we there is planned work we'll follow we'll follow up and see it may it may be simply that it doesn't need to be on the list because it's already in the way so i don't i don't know the break point of like when something got on or didn't get on that list so okay but we'll double check on that yes i just think this may be some clarification i i i think um mr santos they have two segments of 441 there just may be a typo in the us 41 it's 441 um that are listed in the item description but that's something mr thoburn you can confirm uh later but two of the two segments are in fact listed on 441 in the um item descriptions i think they missed a number like that okay thank you questions okay report from the florida metropolitan planning partnership um mgoa she got to attend that so she will get an update on what she experienced and did you go in person allison good okay myra uribe is a good person she's chair of that that group yeah yeah so i had a suspicion that i was probably going to be um asked to step in for a little while and uh historically the gainesville area mtpo has not had a lot of representation from staff and they've really wanted us fdot to participate in that organization um so i attended both the fmpp and the mpo ac the following day um it was good there were um so there was a presentation on the safety study that you all just heard um there is a limitation to the data or the sort of group of projects that fdot pulled from so they're looking specifically at their fy26 work program um so if things come before and will be completed before that or fall after they would not be on the list um so that may explain some of the exclusion um they have welcomed a new uh executive director for the mpo ac her name is amanda carpenter she's very communicative very interested in coordinating with all the mpos throughout the state getting to know you all and is willing to come to alachua county to do trainings and yeah just find better ways to support other topics let's see included evaluation of performance metrics so it seemed like universally mpo directors did not think there should be additional performance metrics um however i propose that maybe we could look at the performance metrics we're using which are provided by usdot um in relationship to data that we have about for instance safety so if we have performance metrics um saying that you know we're doing well for safety how's it tying to our work program um is there a direct link between these things and so actually somebody from i believe central office um took note and is going to follow up and figure out how to help put that into practice so rather than more work look to create a better nexus between those reporting measures and um and the work program that we're implementing um lastly yeah the meeting the following day the mpoac very very big group of people um and candidly there's um a little bit of frustration among some of the members sort of what's their purpose how can they better support each other to really advance transportation planning um and share their lessons and have it be less of a box to tick um so i think they're looking for fresh energy um and with that i don't know if it's an appropriate time for us to talk about we do have a upwp amendment that i believe um needs to be done so that we can support training um both for an executive director um for members of the governing body um and then for instance um there's a training for brand new members and miss tina certain reached out and asked if that's something she may be a part of so we need to have a dedicated pot of money um to do that so um okay is it correct that we need to modify the bylaws as well okay um and so so yes the model now the modification of the bylaws would be for up to two members to be able to travel to the mpoac and travel and training associated training through the mpoac um yeah um and the modification to the upwp i think would be a broader sort of training and travel that would include um training and attendance at mpoac um and then also the fmpp meetings so are you looking for a motion directing you to to go ahead and make that amendment i would move staff to make an upwp regarding training i think we probably need to allocate a budgetary amount too and we thought um yeah i mean it's better to have just one up to 10 000 yeah up to 10 000 we thought for travel and training associated with these meetings throughout the state um and that would be for the approved uh governing board members and then for executive director orange um i would move uh amendments to our bylaws and the upwp regarding training and travel budget not to exceed ten thousand dollars for governing board members and staff thank you motion in a second christia and ward um okay um adrian why is it so perspective in the bylaws say like two or three it seems very getting incredibly granular in the bylaws which is supposed to be like a broader governing not more like a budgetary decision and there there is um yeah we just heard from our fdot liaison that it probably should be in the bylaws might there be flexibility about the prescription of the number of members i think in this case we should the option is to be sort of prescriptive than this but then i do agree like if you want to come back and modify the bylaws to be you know maybe and we'll just have to work with the department to see what when it's the right language because you could just simply say potentially that that such travel needs to be authorized by the chair or something like that yeah something's out of that so yeah but we need to make sure that that it's clear enough that from a phwa standpoint take a look at it and say oh okay this is clearly authorized so we'll this we'll coordinate with the department and make sure that you know if there is a way to make it a little less prescriptive that that we could come up with some language for future consideration and address the language in the motion because yeah okay all right and just i'm gonna actually allison have me have to go back i have a school board business that is ends on friday and it's going to be hard for me okay anything else we have a motion pardon just a short comment okay yeah i so i attended the training it's um normally it's a friday and a half a saturday or saturday and a half a sunday and it was incredibly valuable and it was low it was low cost and uh probably the biggest thing i got out of that and i presented back to the mtpo and on day three i think you went the same year i did we attended different sessions the biggest thing i got out of it was we have about 200 acronyms that we're doing right and just the fact that we can put together all these plans and what they mean from a standpoint of long-range planning and work you know the work plan and the monies and the pots of money i felt like it was very invaluable um and i'm by no means an expert i just felt like it helped me kind of put things together in a pretty short period of time it does it does help and also really good networking yes absolutely right that's a good reminder so the fmpp is florida planning metropolitan planning partnership um and then mpoac is metropolitan planning organization association that's your pet advisory council advisory council yeah that's spelled out here thank you yeah there's a lot of acronyms that one's spelled out yeah okay any questions allison thank you for um motion and okay yes yes okay um any concerns from the community questions comments all in favor say aye aye all right thank you okay mr gomez you got a report i'm sure there are questions about the bus stop improvements and uh you see in this map uh we have uh on the first phase one about a hundred bus stop improvements that we have we currently completed seven eight about nine pending um seven that we put on hold because of the the road changes with the university service and and six six that we stopped because are very cost-prohibit but but in general we have the first phase completed mainly and we on second phase is the design of another 215 bus stop improvements that could have some ADA 100 percent compliant there also was a question about uh bus shelter on the on the grace marketplace area and that's on the phase two on the design and yeah and shelter we don't have funding we have funding for the design we don't have funding for the construction on phase two yet we on these uh 100 bus stop we spend about over two million dollars on those improvements how much is a shelter like 23 shelters on that 100 bus stops one for one shelter uh depends on the size between 4500 to 277 500 i asked about that that that i don't know how many of you drive that corridor but it is a very intensely used corridor we just added bus service back to that and you know on the weekends and um in addition to grace of course our jail is there so people being released they get a bus pass um and then also you know the airport is there so if someone chooses to use the public transit rather than a ride share or something like that for cost saving then they're waiting out there and currently you know there's there's literally like dozens of people often standing at those bus stops with no shelter at all and sometimes the headways on that stop are kind of long so just uh i'm glad to see it's on the list and for design and that um working towards it is the are you applying for funding is it grant funded is that and does it are does the mtpo have funding that we contribute to in bus shelter improvements or it's on the transit list but as a way for us to apply it's not a funding available for that okay yeah i just had a question on um on rts is minimum distance between stops and i know some areas it's i mean you're spending a bunch of money and then putting like having stops super close together it's not usually sometimes it can make um the buses a lot slower is there a minimum distance that you all put in and are you when you're looking at changing like upgrading these stops are you taking that into consideration of that distance yeah we're trying to use uh um at least 400 feet but that seems there's some dense areas that we would be uh closer okay because kind of my research 500 feet is a very dense um amount of kind of between stops anyway 500 feet between bus stops yeah it's very that's like really close i know what i'm saying it's very almost it's too close like doing every 500 feet that's not a block they there was a thousand yeah yeah it depends on their demand and their sidewalks and things like that thank you chair okay anything else thank you sir i know it's never ending okay um the calendar mr no one is there it's in it's in our packet yes this has been a i look back at previous calendars they have they have they have changed they do change throughout the year it's not unusual to have changes but it's been a pretty tough year and i know it's affected people's ability to attend meetings we had a issue with the cac meeting because you know there were the people had scheduled vacations and and when it changed just became problematic and so we know that there's a need to kind of set meetings and try to keep them as in place uh but this has been a particularly difficult year um we did uh because the september meeting was we literally would have had the tac and the cac tomorrow uh for the september meeting which which didn't make any sense we did cancel that uh and the next meeting will be in october and then allison's kind of already starting to think about how to put the the calendar together for next year that uh acknowledges the the as as uh tma you're going to have more meetings and you're going to have more tiff amendments things like that so you're going to have more than you previously have but maybe uh kind of learn from this last year to to provide a calendar that's a little more consistent we certainly saw that we had some meetings in places that were were not realistic and we had to think about when the tip was going to be adopted and when the tip you know so like that meeting in early june needed to be later in june um we also had the lrtp adoption which you know we we needed to give them as much time as possible um and so i think i i think one of the objectives going forward is going to be reduce some of that red and make it a little more consistent so but that is our calendar going forward i think we have made some improvements along the way in terms of the cadence between the tac cac and the full board because before it was literally three weeks between and it made it just didn't work so that's part of the changes that we've seen okay any questions about the calendar do you need a motion to approve the calendar or is this just for information just information okay and then attendance records uh we have uh attendance records for the tac and the cac um we have been uh been we've had good attendance at uh both the tac and the cac it's been uh one item that we do need to address is uh the the uh person identified from the school board is no longer there so we need to identify and i don't think think house has been has reached out to them but we do need another school board uh representative um we we we've had uh on the cac uh until this last meeting the attendance was great who was the who was the number at unis yeah yeah yeah we just need a identified her replacement and make sure that we we they're on that um so again uh this is just opportunity to to make sure that we're all accountable for attending meetings so and that is it for that unless you had any questions obviously uh you know you can see the cac's been really good until this last meeting i think that was a function of we had summer break we had calendar issues with vacations and things like that so i tell you what if you guys if you have any other questions for brad about all this if you all would indulge me just a minute i had invited miss jane shell and um miss hamilton here they have a pickup at 4 45 out front and i had thought that we were going to be able to manage this but they have to get their ride if you don't mind um letting them go if they have something that they want to share i think miss jane shell just wanted to introduce herself to the board and her you know represent a community that uh i've i've been trying to uh include and if you would like uh uh can we just move public comment up well we we can i didn't know is there anybody else in here wants to do public comment okay okay so if that's if you don't mind all right you're right here the face so i'm not talking okay um good afternoon my name is jody jangel um thank you for having me i just wanted to um present myself as part of the um visually impaired and disabled community and have a voice and i had lived here i've been with um paratransit for 25 years and i had lived in gainesville from 2000 to 2012 and then i spent some time back in south florida and i moved back to gainesville because it's a progressive area that supports disability and even though transportation has always been a challenge with envy it has improved tremendously and has made a great impact on my life and so with the thought of things changing after 25 years of finally getting it right where it's more comfortable more reliable and doesn't take 30 minutes to make a reservation it's very anxiety producing for myself and my community that there might be changes that are huge effects i mean i know everyone's being affected but this is like how i get out of my house and so it's very scary it's already i can't go out in the evening and i can't go out much on sundays um i'm not comfortable taking uber for my own personal reasons so everyone's like go just take an uber i'm like yeah but we get denied sometimes and because of a guide dog so it's really uncomfortable but um yeah i mean there's been so many changes with the td cuts and then not being able to leave the city of gainesville so i mean it's our world's getting smaller and smaller and smaller and it's really discouraging especially because i moved here for that purpose so thank you share something again we were trying to figure out who owns what and sidewalks are an issue you know breaks and sidewalks and i've been out with my slipper clippers and in slit and cut vegetation from time to time because it grows over you know for people so on the way out just to introduce yourself because i've been dragging on you today uh good afternoon my name is uh judith hamilton i've been in this community and the living in this community as a citizen for a long time and i have been a paratransit rider i'm also a blind or low vision person which in other words means i'm legally blind i do have some vision but it falls into the legally blind category and i'm also been i've also been an advocate in the community citizen advocate especially these last few years because i am retired now and i just wanted to echo what jody said because it i know that things are tough they've been tough for everybody but the we seem to be you seem to be putting us backward and uh we had a lot better we had to fight hard for it and i know there's some people here that were with the city when we had to fight for the accommodation for paratransit for ada for the fixed route and also paratransit i've been a paratransit rider i do try and ride the fixed route every once in a while if i can if i can manage it and the weather cooperates and now i'm a little getting a little bit too old to do the weather so like everybody else but i just wanted to say please don't don't forget about us don't i know i know you don't see us at the meetings the reason why maybe is because we can't get a ride to go or something like that unless it's something like what's appearing here we can't get involved as we like to in the community and right now if if a lot of these changes go through we're not going to be able to as jody said we can't get out of our houses because we don't have any other alternatives like like you all do and out in the community a lot of people can use a bicycle i can't ride a bicycle um i do i i did like to walk but you know like i say the weather does pose an option to that and also being older i'm having to negotiate being older i've had a disability this disability all my life and i i've had to negotiate that with getting learning to be gold now too and having my mobility physical mobility challenges but i'm still trying and i still want to be a productive member of the community and i am a consumer and i just hope that you'll take us into consideration contact us you know we're we're out here we're out and about and uh um i'm working on trying to uh work with uh trying to get proclamations for uh white cane safety day so thank you thank you thank you we're going to scoot you all out so you can i have a question i i i'm confused i understand that each of the like the county funds some md transport like transit options for people with disabilities and then we have the city funds some of those doesn't the mtpo also fund some of those because we were talking about the fact that we need of some of the money on the table because you know can somebody explain me how that works like if there's an easy and quick way to do it because i'm confused right now i guess i thought that there was somebody that came from this larger body that went to transit options that were not that were specific populations there's probably not an easy way to explain it okay i don't know that you're leaving money on the table but it there's a pretty pretty extensive umbrella of transportation disadvantaged services and and then there's the ada uh services that the the the rts has to provide within a three-quarter mile of a of a uh a fixed route and that's a federal requirement so and then there there's there are um there are a mix of what we call sponsor agencies that provide trips to the transportation disadvantage and it's everything from uh developmentally disabled or it could be through medicaid it could there's about i think there's nine different agencies that have different programs that have different eligibilities and types of trips they're allowed to provide and then there's a transportation disadvantage program which is a state program that's supposed to be meant to fill the gap between those yeah that's the one where we have to match 50 percent yeah and and and so that may be one where but it's not a mpo issue uh necessarily i don't believe i mean you are the the rpc is now the uh the designated official planning agency um uh at least for the next year um and you may you may choose to bring that back because that is a function of that that you can you can take on as the mtpo um so if there is money being left it's the it's the not matching funds for the td uh and if you have the commission for transportation disadvantage which is a state organization that coordinates between all the the the um the certain the different providers um or the sponsor agency so it's a very complex system but the the the the bulk of it though is ada trips that the that the that the rts is providing and then the td uh that's filling in the gaps for the all those other sponsors it's a very complex pro uh network of services and the changes that they're speaking about are changes to our rts system ada support because of budget cuts yes it's a federal requirement to provide those services so if it's a cut if if if you're if your fixed route network shrinks your ada service area could shrink so that that would be the impact i see i think the the funds you're referring to at the 53 11 trips that's the 53 11 funds that's for service outside the city limits for rural communities and yes there's a 50 50 match that you can buy trips you can contract with the mv or any anybody to provide trips it's a 50 50 match do we know how much of that is being it's allocated every year i think uh it's about 500 000 the county right now on the the contract we have uh about 100 000 something like that so yes 400 000 are on the table for matching but that's for service outside city limits yeah thanks all right we're down with mr mike just grab that mic good afternoon madam chair um i have a speech written because this is really important to me after he has issued a memo claiming concern over jeopardizing both driver and pedestrian safety that's a quote at the end the concern over aesthetic crosswalks is so great fdot threatened to withhold hundreds of millions of dollars in transportation funding including for projects that increase both driver and pedestrian safety fdot gave two weeks notice to remove crosswalks with aesthetic treatments in my over a decade of advocacy this urgency is unprecedented by fdot suggesting another motive after all when multiple students were killed by drivers in front of the university of florida we saw construction of safety infrastructure halt for footfall season here's what studies across states and countries say increase safety for all street users speed kills slowing drivers is a top thing that fdot can do to improve safety for all road users the pedestrian is struck by a driver at 20 miles per hour has a chance of 90 percent of 90 chance of survival at 40 miles per hour less than 20 chance of survival if fdot is urgently in support of safety why isn't fdot adding infrastructure to slow excessive driver speeds as they repaid 39th avenue a 2019 study showed cities with the highest levels of protected bike lanes have 44 percent road fatalities for all road users cyclists need connected bike infrastructure with real barriers to keep them safe if safety is an urgent concern of fdot and given all the evidence the physical barriers between driver lanes and bicycle lanes reduce crashes and fatalities for all road users why the removal of barriers on northwest 8th fdot has southwest 16th avenue which is along the uf campus actually bisects because of vet school and hospitals in the work plan without safety improvements for intersections or adding barriers to the bike lane they shut down conversation at mtpo meeting about safety because it was too late why did fdot communicate that there will be no conversation about rice sizing increasing safety on university avenue east of 13th the signature avenue for the university of florida and gainesville why has fdot scolded this mtpo over communications over bike lane that has been requested for at least four decades on newberry road so that bicyclists have a complete safe network everyone here knows the reason behind the memo it is to target the visibility of support for lgbtq community members it is using all means of power and cudgels to make local government bend the knee real leaders know that the true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members being in a position of power doesn't make you a leader and i and i include both the state and national leaders in both the state and nation's capitals to those people you're using the cloak of safety to your for your hatefulness you are transparent you are weak and silence is complicity thank you madam chair thank you kristin young anyone else from the community would like to speak introduce yourselves to us as concerned citizens you don't have to speak you can just tell us who you are if you want to no all right guys that closes agency report yes citizen comment and we'll go right on to reports uh florida department of transportation i had ikea left so and i'm so sorry that she left kristin and not to hear your presentation perhaps you can send that along um but we have it in our record okay we'll go back to it okay i appreciate her stepping up and making those comments it's true we we don't we if our agencies are going to take safety seriously we hope that they'll listen to our real safety concerns the things that we're putting forward in our priority plans and in the communications to dot about what is a priority for safety for us in our communities rather than focusing on aesthetics and things that have not been shown by the data or research to have any impact on safety thank you for that is anybody else have any comments so many okay okay mayor ward thank you madam chair just uh real briefly toward the same uh same issue toward the same issue um there was uh there were some news stories last week that a couple of uh municipalities in florida had very courageously said they were not going to comply with the memos by friday i think it was um fdot had advised them that if they did not remove the offending street art that fdot would remove it at city expense and send them a bill so i just want everybody to be clear that while delray beach love looked very courageous didn't work out um and this is something that is has been brought down on the entire state at this point it is um and it is not only uh for uh for the lgbt plus community um to be targeted it's also the black lives matter um street art and many communities um and apparently it involves the uh uh green bike lane emblems as well that will need to come up yes they were very much trying to very clearly make examples of two communities statewide and because of that they ended up having to do lots of things that went beyond that it's exceptionally clear to me this has nothing to do with safety nothing to do with safety all the data that we can find every study that's been done indicates that street art slows people down and makes people take more care as they drive if we're talking about safety there's a lot we can do there are many investments that can be made to keep uh pedestrians and cyclists alive as well as drivers we're not making those uh investments we're we're backpedaling on that so that we can fight the culture wars and that is deeply disappointing to me do we have a timeline is there a time that that has to be done by that we could clean one brick at a time very slowly no i think fdot has been very clear that that's not acceptable we we are working as quickly as we can uh to at the city of gainesville to to preserve as much of the uh the integrity of the bricks themselves as we possibly can so they might be able to be recycled for uh for other purposes um and sometime in october i expect that we'll have a report from staff working with pride community about uh you know next steps uh but i will also say that it it can't be one next step because that'll get outlawed too it needs to be multiple next steps we need to be like water we need to to find more and more and more in different ways to uh to embrace our entire community and i i think that's the important piece of this if we just think that that one solution will be sufficient it will not be uh this will continue um and and we need to be prepared to uh to act as if that is the case thank you sir casey thank you madam chair so because it's related to this the safe arterials uh or the safe roads uh item that we saw it looks at you know arterials it suggests that they that the federal government wants to talk about the entire right of way so that goes down to on 34 the memorial wall on 34 i believe is in the right of way and so that whole thing talks only about distraction not about speed i think most people here and um our experience in this community is that we cannot talk about this without talking about speed that distraction um on people's phones as opposed to blaming the distractions on things in the right of way only it it misses the mark of looking at safety i had similar thoughts and feelings to miss young about when i saw this because i would love for the speed limit on southwest 13th near where i live to not be 45 miles an hour because then it gives people permission to be going 65 and i would love for there be engineering to slow people down um not that we have any kind of um non-conforming uh traffic control devices down there um but if they try to tell us that if the stage is trying to say like oh it's really about you know distractions that are outside of the car a we know that the distractions are inside the car it's the humans with the phone in their hand um or a touch screen or a movie screen or whatever um but then it's the speed combined with that and so it is a little frustrating to have to have heard this idea that they've been that safety is of utmost concern but they've slow walked us on different improvements they've ignored our request request after request after request on um on newberry road but the arterials uh communication suggests that they may not want to have even within the right-of-way a bike a multi-use on the side of it because they may say well that's distracting for someone on an arterial to see a cyclist on a separate trail so i think we're it's going to be really interesting to see how the federal government tries to tell us uh without the data to say oh no surely that's what's the what's dangerous as opposed to what we know the speed the speed the speed the speed all the studies that particularly talk about the the deadliness of an accident um is the speed so it is a little frustrating so i'm glad that some parts of our community have heard this um but some of this with the arterial the safe roads project it may not just be something that affects the city but all across the county about where these arterials are so for my county colleagues who knows what the next phase of this is going to be um but it certainly isn't about safety because otherwise we could tell them this body could tell them here's our identified and we do we have our identified safety things help us fund it help us get it done help us help us speed it up so i just want to since that was topical right now i wanted to provide that thank you madam chair thank you commissioner i know tina you have to go soon so do you have a report that you want to put and we can continue the conversation as you would want to i don't have a report other than just to emphasize it sorry you didn't mention this the speed in the school zones you know we talked about hard going um 301 loud before summer was up their city manager came in and spoke about that hazard there at the 301 and the crossing there by the minigated street number i can't recall that but 69th avenue yep that's it that's it that's it 69th avenue so yeah that one and then also the congestion in newberry around the middle school and southwest i think it's 15th the road that runs in front of the elementary school and it comes out to 2741 by old view right there just it's really congested there's all the development and um that slows people down in the morning some but then the traffic that's on the road is really fast and lastly i really wish we could get some lights and markings in front of the new terillaga on parker because the speed way it's really fast there's no there are no no no lights no signage or anything out there they've had two studies but they haven't put anything out there yet parker's county but we i mean we had had it looked at twice i think they've done two two traffic studies since school's been open and since then we had that really bad accident where i think it was three or four people that were uh fatalities that were killed there at 22nd and 24th south was 24th and parker there's a light going in 24th in the fourth quarter yeah but you're talking farther south oh so the light's going to be up at traffic circle 24th and parker oh 24th and parker okay that will help yeah it'll help but you'll talk a part of that yeah any questions for tina okay all right thank you thank you no thank you very much okay uh let me see um gageville regional airport adrian do you have anything to share our opening of our um new apartment garage and intermodal transmission center i've got delayed but it's moved to august 27th at 11 a.m is there going to be cake there was good stuff i know it seems to me there may be cake because there's like whenever you have like a new airline there's like there's a cake in airports what time i think there might actually be cake i don't know i know i think that somebody's gone to a lot of trouble in the past to make these amazing exactly exactly what time is the what time is the 27th at what time 11 a.m 11 a.m 11 a.m but that's lunch time there's got to be lunch right you guys are horrible there's a there's a restaurant so i can go yeah you can go inside to the security and fly somewhere in the afternoon gotcha to okay university of florida um i don't have a a whole lot but just one thing if you haven't been on campus recently i was just going to mention that um we've recently completed our upgrades to inner road on campus that's the road that intersects with 13th street at fifth avenue kind of near norman hall it's been in the works for a while it also included a lot of utilities updates so that's why it took some time but that's been rebuilt as a two-way street it used to be only one way exiting but now you can enter into campus that way we improved bike lanes we improved the sidewalks we improved the intersection pedestrian waiting areas so there's a little larger nicer area for the pedestrians to queue up to cross the street we improved the connection down to the tunnel that goes under 13th street and as of i think just a couple of weeks ago now rts is running one of the city routes uh utilizing that road now that you can can come in that way so i think that's a you know real change on campus and i think ultimately really helps with connectivity and uh bicycle and pedestrian safety and students are back yeah yes they are i wanted to give her a chance to maybe respond to some of the questions she's got a dot report too but yeah we'll go back when she comes in um okay meetings of interest you guys got you can see that i don't know if there's anything we need to comment about brad do you know i mean the only one that's kind of come up since we put this together was that the uh that allison talked about with the mq ac training thank you you got to be feeling a little bit like our dr fox right you're in a room and we're carrying on and carry on i keep extending that deadline because we can't find somebody okay and we've been we just saved the best for last okay all righty um thank you a care brown i'm the transportation planning manager for fdot i just wanted to announce um october 21st is our work program hearing um is pertaining to the 2731 this is the opportunity where you guys take a look at those lists of priority projects and you guys look for them to be in the work program so i thought i should mention the three projects that will be included based on your list we have uh us 441 at stadium road which was your priority five project that made it into the work program this cycle uh northwest 143rd street new newberry road 239th that's your number six priority project and the last project was state road 26 from southwest 38th street to gail and moran drive that was your number four project um so in total thus far we have seven projects based on your lopp so um this is the opportunity i believe we have about two projects that we've heard over the last year that you guys have concerns i don't have those limits um just yet but those are you know as we're building and we're looking at the current lopp your future lopp will will consider those projects in amongst the already existing projects and look at the budget to see what can be funded in the next cycle which will be 2832 can't believe i'm saying that but yeah so you have any questions about anyone okay i don't remember what you said to me about the post springs light yes that is one of the projects that we are yes uh that was mentioned and that we have taken a look at i think um jim knight my administrator he said that's a good project so we're looking at funding that one for the next cycle but of course voted by the board thank you all right yeah at the county commission meeting we had some citizens talk to us about uh archer road and i believe it's 154th right in front of jordan glenn heading out towards archer road there's a couple of there's been some major accidents and one recently um we would i would ask that the state look at maybe a turn lane or some kind of safety enhancements at that intersection okay there was the recent accident actually shut that road down for half a day from archer to gainesville it's pretty big deal so it's right it's it's the road that takes you to jordan glenn it's a school jordan glenn school on archerland 100 it's 154th right now i think it is yeah thank you questions okay we had a citizen who uh brought forward a concern about us having to remove our our bricks do you have anything that you can share with us the the brick colored for our rainbow walks that that they said that we would uh if we did not remove them then we would would receive federal funding yeah um so are you looking to have those have it be replaced i would speak with maintenance to see if we still have um have those breaks if not we'll probably just be normal sidewalk okay they're going across the road i think and what they've told us the mayor is gone but somebody from the city that you could speak to that i think part of the question was just in the conversation both with a member of the community and this board um i don't know that the city has gotten an update uh the city voted to remove the rainbow crosswalks and it's on bike boulevard symbols that are in the car traffic lane as opposed to bike traffic lane um but we're unclear about we are trying to get those done but other cities have been told a september 3rd deadline where the state will come remove those off of potentially non-state roads and so i guess you know and i'm sure on the city staff side we will we can communicate to try to understand if they are giving us that same september 3rd date but if there's any other i don't know some feedback about um safety versus any other reason why this was communicated to us you missed a little bit about some communication that some of us do not think this is about safety at all we'd rather have slower speeds and less distracted drivers inside the car as opposed to thinking that something outside the car is what is distracting and increasing um or lowering safety so that was a little bit about between the mayor speaking and me speaking a member of the community i do recall one of um one of the dot staff is taking the inventory and collecting um just the amounts um in district 2 overall and i'll contact that person to see what is the deadline not only to to gather information but the deadline to have it be removed i haven't heard about any deadline per se that because we understand it's a big lift we even have things that initiatives that dot like i don't know um we had the um bike you would say bike decorations for students that were put on um and that they designed and we voted for and we actually you know this you know installed them and the in dot you would say roadways that we also too have to remove which is very unfortunate um so it's really good information to have yeah so we're all kind of being impacted with this right there's a lot of people who think that that is merely collateral to attacking lgbtq people clearly a lot of us feel that but it's good to know i know that in lakeland they have sorority fraternity symbols on a brick street right in front of a university of southern southern florida university i forgot what it's called there in lakeland same thing like it had been done years ago seems like that's collateral damage but thank you for reminding us that there are there are other things uh in lots of different places different uh i would call them innovations and markings but uh clearly some people think they're unsafe but i will get that back to you i'll send it to the board so we're all on the same page yeah well i mean this is the first i've heard about this are you guys you guys currently inventorying all non-green book standard markings across everything yes ourselves as well okay because like i mentioned we also have some some markings um and some you know um on the networks that are not in the green book that were kind of you know you would say um a trade-off you you have you so and does that include uh streets as well as sidewalks as well like the whole everything anything that has that can potentially is federal age eligible thank you very quickly because we have a five o'clock in it that that clock is five minutes fast so it's really five or five my question is when is the next revision of the green book and how do we submit for that i do not know unless that's traffic house but i can get that for you as well i think that this is a good time to look at what's actually in the green book yes thank you no problem all right anything else from the board i think we've had public comment we've taken okay we haven't done we haven't done board comment and i know we have a certain thing do you want to wait and do it after the time certain yes if i think we need to get this taken care of first and if you can hold on to it that's that's fine i just don't want to lose okay yeah okay um who's making this presentation oh the gentleman in the suits i see come on i believe five six i think we'd still have four also yeah we've missed just lost two i'm here till six we should be we should be good okay i'm gonna pass these around that's the one that's the one that's going to try i don't have to speak up no count on it i know this one makes this one makes me this is for when mary speaks this isn't part of what we're doing this is for when mary speaks this is not okay this is something different okay here you go the lntp okay who's who's making the presentation oh well allison take that's especially okay okay what's that oh especially there right do we need more light down there we we've lost the light when we had the uh i think it's better to leave it off so we can see leave it on so when he presents we can see the screen oh okay i'm sorry brad i think they're probably going to be using that are you okay i beg your pardon thank you sir hey do you have everything you need i i have all right just waiting for the presentation got you thank you thank you this is all this technology thank goodness for electricity it is attached on the mtpo website no on our agenda the mtpo agenda that's the county's agenda okay so that's that i made that smart it wasn't attached there but it is welcome introduce yourself and we'll follow you along uh good afternoon chairman chair and members of the board uh my name is trin varanasi with the core dino group i'm the consultant project manager for the uh 2050 long range transportation plan update for the metropolitan planning organization for us for coming i am here to present um the long range transportation plan um cost feasible plan um as part of this um update i just wanted to give the board um an update of the overall project um as well so we are um going through this um agenda today so we will talk a little bit of the background of the lrtp um and a recap of the long range transportation plan needs assessment um we also conducted some 2050 needs scenarios um and transportation modeling exercises um effectiveness of those projects um and then we'll go to revenue forecasts um that are critical for the lrtps cost feasible plan development and then some of the cost feasible plan methodology will be discussed as well um lastly a cost feasible project list and maps um that will be presented to the board um what what is lrtp lrtp is a federally required document um that um is a blueprint of the uh transportation investments into a 25-year horizon every mpo has to update the long range transportation plan um every five years so we are in the 2050 um long range transportation plan update cycle at this juncture um lrtp process involves the um the following steps in this in this flow chart um they begin with uh identifying the vision goals and objectives uh as you can see on the flow chart um as you can see on the flow chart um on the right hand corner and identifying the shoes and uh and the projects is the next steps where our team gathered inputs on issues or transportation related issues related to all of those goals and objectives through public involvement and agency coordination and so forth and then transportation needs assessment to resolve those issues what kind of needs will be uh will are are needed for um the community and this part that you all have adopted the transportation needs in our prior meeting um so today we're talking about the financial analysis and project prioritization as well as developing the cost feasible plan and cost feasible plan adoption is the final step of the long range transportation plan as you can see in the um flow chart here the entire process is um you know centered around public involvement so this is this is a recap of the goals and objectives there are seven goals um that are primarily focused on economic vitality safety accessibility um environment protection and connectivity and then efficient transportation system management which is tsm no uh improvements and lastly system preservation improving payment condition etc and there are objectives for each of the goals and those objectives are essential inputs to the performance measures that our team has used for ranking projects and developing the needs plan and finally the cost feasible plan this is the public um public um participation plan that our team has used and implemented on the lrtp process we've conducted from um public workshops as well as today we're in a public hearing situation and then beginning march 24th of 2025 we connected the goals and objectives public workshop and then um we conducted a public workshop on needs plan subsequently in may and we met with you in the board meeting for the lrtp needs plan update the cost feasible plan um workshop was conducted in july and then the today's public hearing is what we are at in addition to these public workshops and agency coordination our team has put together a um lrtp survey um that reached out to about 220 individuals um where they provided variety of input uh through that um you know those are like multiple choice questions and some of them we we actually reached out to get the open-ended um issues and answers um who's your audience for that who were those 200 people um so those were the the survey was public um publicly um announced in the um alachua county's website and um as well as all of these uh public participation plan um meetings um so essentially the citizens of alachua county so this is the summary of the the survey um where and what is the most important thing out of the seven goals that we have um in the lrtp um so it's essentially safety is one of the number one priority in addition to accessibility and connectivity um and you know the system like multimodal kind of system is the most priority for this community um you know in addition to economic vitality and system preservation they also got reasonable scores by the community members here's a quick recap of the 2015 needs assessment um that we performed um so i'm just going to quickly walk through the process where we develop the performance measures based on the goals and objectives um identified the potential issues in various buckets roadway safety multi-modal and connectivity those are four major categories that our team has used and then we developed projects in each of those categories and those projects were coordinated with the local agencies including the review of the local mobility plans and fdot's sis needs plan and variety of studies that past studies including the previous long-range transportation plan our team also conducted um the gis analysis and developing a large gis database for all these projects so everything is you know electronic and these projects are also presented in map format in the public workshops here's a summary of the project scoring methodology so essentially based on the performance measures um we have identified a particular score for each of the goal and project related performance measure and we summarize those um total scores by for each project for example a project can have a benefit of the safety as well as it can have a benefit on mobility it can have an accessibility benefit as well so we summed up all of that for that for that particular project so the scoring um is one of the hearts of this project and this um scoring methodology is documented in your um you know in the slide that is also presented in your agenda packet so it's pretty detailed um methodology for each of the goal there's objectives and objectives correspond to the performance measures so finally once we have project level scores they were summarized into meaningful buckets like mobility projects like mobility projects are you know essentially the roadway projects um they were grouped together and then multimodal projects are grouped together um these groupings are needed because kind of bucket is allocated or you know it is qualified for a certain type of funds and that's why these groupings are um groupings are um done like this and then safety um as well we have certain projects on the safety uh side of things and um lastly connectivity projects so this is another recap of our scenario analysis that you have seen briefly in the past um so using the you know gains will allows for 20 travel demand model um our team has performed um the modeling analysis of all of these projects starting from the 2020 baseline scenario where we validated the travel demand model against the traffic counts and census data and then um baseline slash noble scenario was developed where you have a 2029 transportation network and which is your committed network where uh you know that that uses all of the tip projects um and the 2050 socioeconomic data so this baseline scenario gives us indication of if we keep growing to 2050 conditions beyond the 2029 network if we do not have any other funds available beyond 2029 what kind of transportation issues we'll see and that's what the baseline scenario will tell us and then to resolve those some of these highway um transit and um transit headway scenarios these are incremental scenarios the hybrid scenario basically um included the roadway widening or any of the other highways related projects plus the bike and pedestrian projects in there and then transit hybrid scenario included highway scenario plus the transit projects improvements on um transit um new transit lines are connecting additional uh bus stops and things like that and then improved transit headway scenario included in addition to adding transit lines how about improving the uh headways and those are the different scenarios we modeled um so this is a summary of the socioeconomic data update um that is um you know essential for the travel demand analysis um it's one of the fundamental inputs um so we are adding what it shows is 2020 and 2050 control total for alaswa county um so it shows the dwelling units and population numbers in here um you know we are adding essentially 75 000 more people by 2050 conditions this is according to beaver medium projections and which is what we have used most of the mpos in the in the state follow the bieber medium projections as in a conservative estimate most uh reasonable numbers to go with and what happens if we use that data against the 2029 baseline network and what kind of transportation issues we'll see and this map shows all of those red locations where you will see traffic congestion um beyond um acceptable level of service so by 2050 conditions if we do not improve those roadways um or um you know if we do not propose other multimodal slash transit or other solutions this kind of service has the um map of uh you know issues um for for the region and so the highway scenario included identified needs in the area um that centered within the you know primarily along i-75 corridor and within the urban area and urban cluster and some in the county area so there are some connectivity projects um you know some winding projects and and so on and some of the bike and pedestrian projects were also included in this um highway scenario then multimodal projects these are the multimodal projects that were our team looked into the 110 um total multimodal projects um that we identified in a sense in addition we reviewed the transit development plans um as well as the mobility plans to identify the transit routes um and we streamlined the transit routes um and modeled that as well in the transit scenario this slide shows the effectiveness of each of these scenarios um so starting from the baseline 2020 what what the slide has is the vehicle hours travel the number of hours a person would spend on the roadway um on a daily basis so um these um in 2020 conditions to 2050 conditions there's uh about a hundred and hundred and ten thousand increase of vehicle hours traveled in the baseline 2050 conditions if you do nothing so some of these improvements such as highway improvements slash bike and pedestrian improvements um they might you know involve um taking shorter routes relieving conditions the number of time number of hours a person would spend on the road would reduce which is a benefit which is an essential performance measure of the system-wide output so how well our plan is working is what what it shows so the you know highway scenario does decrease um some of that um baseline 2050 vehicle hours travel and then uh hybrid transit plus highway scenario it is further decreased you know it's probably not that you know effective but still it shows some effectiveness in there my question is how does uh vehicle speed um um fit into this model because obviously you want to you're you're prioritizing getting from point a to point b as quickly as possible yet we have a real problem in our community even along the interstate which is one of the cost feasible projects that i see that could actually pay for every other project on the list um is is not um i mean that that's actually a whole safety thing which is also a big part of the of the calculation so how do you maintain uh safe roads for everybody yet prioritize the the speed of getting from point a to point right so speed is you know it's a balance act speed is one of the performance measures um so vehicle hours travels um is one one side of the spectrum and there's other um you know vehicle miles traveled and other performance measures as well and there are several safety related performance measures um this plan has used as well and um it just seems like you're focusing on the speed aspect which i think in this particular yeah in this particular um aspect of the overall system wide vehicle hours traveled is a performance measure so with the plan the plan includes the roadway multi-modal safety there's several types of projects um we want to make sure that it is a balance act in essence and um how um you know whether are we improving from the baseline situation to a you know a a highway scenario or are we you know depreciating the vehicle ourselves there's actually a speed comparison as well down the line um you know driving around gansville typically the average speed is higher than the speed limit so yeah come right on up so the other mic take a seat join us speed improvement this all the scenarios is not actually related to speed improvement there are some transit projects projects as well like those will actually help like reducing uh reducing the vehicle hours travel it's a measurement of like how uh how many hours of time the vehicles have spent on the roadways so when transits are improved in the roadways you would see that the speed won't be increasing that much so within the having the same speed when you improve the frequency of transit you'd see that the vehicle hours traveled they are actually using let's hope no that's the that's the study people have done so no no i'd love to see that actually in action here but that's a whole other question thank you i just wanted to understand the that particular vehicle hours traveled yes and this is another measure system-wide measure vehicle miles traveled on the roadways so in the baseline scenario you know we are going from existing vmt of 8.7 million to 11.2 million in the baseline situation the how much the each of the scenarios are reducing the vmt uh spent on the roadways is shown in here it's also an incremental benefit that definitely seen in each of the scenarios this is one of the comparisons on the actual speed um congested speed versus the free flow speed so free flow speed is essentially you know without any congestion and this um you know it's it's higher than the usual posted speed limits but you know what it's shown is on an average average speed system-wide for all the roadways um in the baseline scenario in the base 2020 conditions you have 34 miles per hour um average congested speed that goes down to 31 miles per hour in the baseline 2050 conditions but each of the other scenarios they tend to slightly enhance um that um you know so you can see the hybrid plus transit um transit plus highway scenario um went from 32.31 to 32.34 so the transit scenario slightly enhanced the highway scenario so this does show that the plan is moving in the right direction um in a sense um to speed related performance i want to add something on to the previous slide again this uh this slide actually doesn't demonstrate that we are trying to improve the speed on the system it actually is a measurement that how we are reducing the con condition so uh each of this free flow speed actually shows us that when the free flow speed is increasing or the uh congested speed are increasing that means people will face less amount of concessions on the roadways so this objective of this scenario is not to increase the speed overall system the main objective is to reduce the conditions here's the summary of the the revenue forecast that i think has performed um these um revenue forecasts are used in identifying the cost feasible projects um so what you see is uh you know the revenue forecast done um you know in different types of funding streams the first one is the sis funding stream which is the larger um umbrella for the dedicated for the i-75 system um that includes i-75 improvements as well as some of the cross students um that cross i-75 and then there's some mpo specific funds um that that are involved um so that you know primarily from surface transportation block grant program um that's the su funds um that 25 year totals are ranging up to 71 million dollars that are available for um the you know this metropolitan area um and then transportation alternatives that are 12.9 million available um these are primarily spent for the multimodal improvements and then there are some other um funds such as state highway non-s non-sis system so they're qualified roadways for any of the state highway facilities but not belonging to sis system they're dedicated funds for those uh 41 million dollars and then other roads which are non-sis and non-shs facilities 24 million dollars um are available for that and then there there's a few um transit funds that are available that are also listed at the bottom so in all in all you have about 339 million dollar um you know excluding the sis funds um you know a large large chunk of this um is uh transit um as well as roadway uh funds and some multimodal funds as well and the sdbg funds are the most flexible funds that you can actually use it for you know any of the projects that of your choice um so they are um you know they're typically used for you know the agency's priorities and this slide shows adrian you go back to the previous slide and the sis um in 2041-2050 has a huge 1.7 billion dollars is that is that when they're planning to do a major renovation maybe i missed out when i stepped out that was my point it could pay for every other project about entirely this is like 90 percent yeah there's a plan to do a bunch of stuff i believe so in that i think yeah it's a long-range prediction of uh you know setting up the priorities by after that so um i think that time frame they have that funds available so they are looking at probably they'll start permanent engineering and other aspects prior to that other roads that would be for the rural areas um it can rural areas potentially can be qualified and any urban areas can be qualified as well um it's essentially for the other roads any non-sis non-sha this actually is a different summary of the same projections different way of looking at it um where you have total revenue um for the 2050 projections that we have and that is subtracting the existing plus committed so which are already you know allocated for the until 2029 conditions so how much essential revenue remaining revenue you have and that is what used for the long range on forecasting we have used a very detailed approach in developing the overall cost feasible ranking uh methodology um you know starting from the score of the project um so that's um the number one step and then you rate these uh projects with the length of the project and develop a scale cost ratio which is very similar to a benefit cost ratio for each of the projects the benefit cost ratio is high um you know the project will be ranked higher um and so on and so forth and those scale to cost ratios are ordered in a decreasing order and then we selected the top ranked projects for each of the uh funding stream and so i started allocating funds so the shs projects they get allocated to top as such as projects and the non-shs funds for the non-shs projects um and then sdbg projects uh so some of the sdbg funds you know they cover any of the remaining projects and you know lastly the safety and then roadway projects and multi-model projects were allocated a summary of um you know overall project composition so how many projects uh in total um so there are you know green is multi-model here um there's a large chunk of projects in there um and then there are 43 um roadway projects um and then out of that um you know nine of the projects we determined as possible including i-75 um and then you know there's transit projects 30 and then safety projects five of them um you know know that a lot of the multimodal projects also qualified under the safety umbrella so it's a combination safety is um you know pure safety projects were you know in the orange uh set here but it's not that we're not giving high importance for the safety projects and this is another um summary of funds used um and compared to the number of cost feasible projects in the you know in the plan um so what you see is uh you know a big chunk is transit um so there's about 30 projects um that can be funded with 151 million dollars um that that are allocated for transit projects um and then the pink is the multi-model 22.89 million so they are actually able to serve on an average 16 but note that the transit multi-model safety projects we kind of set aside those funds as boxed funds so that um a particular project has not been selected it is actually given for the agency's discretion down the line to select which projects they want to be in so only the roadway projects we kind of selected and ordered them in our in a priority order because they have more definitive um you know requirements or you know selection process in there the other reason for multi-model projects to be selected as boxed funds is that the county is um developing a bike and pedestrian plan and so some of those projects can be implemented um in in coordination with these and adjusting some of those needs projects down the line so the funds are essentially allocated for each of the buckets but the projects are not yet finalized and you know the lrtp allows us to give us some flexibility as boxed funds in that map and this is a snapshot of the roadway cost feasible projects um you know essentially the projects um you know there are some of them in the urban core and some of them are you know connectivity projects um in the county jurisdiction and some are in the city jurisdiction as a separate mix of projects in here um so nine of the projects that are in blue are cost feasible and all the others that are not cost feasible are also shown here in gray color you know it's just because the project is not cost feasible now it doesn't mean that they won't be cost feasible um because you will you potentially you might have funds available down the lines through grant programs or other available funds so it's always good to have that illustrative project list so we have kept those great projects as an illustrative project can i ask question i guess this part confuses me i mean i got your whole i i very understand your process but i what i don't understand is as an individual user like i drive i-75 between the marion county line and and you know the santa fe river all the time and that is not a congest like a super congested part of i-75 roadway like there's way more congestion at like so the turnpike enter you know the turnpike merger revising about other parts of the so i i guess it's just why is that section of the highway being prioritized for widening is there what what what influence do we have over communicating with the dot that that is not as much of a priority as our internal roadways within the county for our funds yes uh we documented in the memo that i-75 is not prioritized because that one is um a you know dedicated sis fund um that the state has dedicated um so it's not prioritized against the other projects we only have been ranking the non-sis projects only in this exercise um i-75 we kind of kept it as okay um you know as its own entity okay it's interesting to me because the number one goal is to support economic vitality and yet it seems to be the the state's biggest goal is to move people through alachua county without them stopping as fast as possible which actually is there's nothing to do with our economic vitality so um you know so regarding your question i want to add something so right now as you are not seeing the congestion because you are in 2025 situation but when we reach up to 2050 based on the socioeconomic growth there will be a lot of uh traffic will going through that i-75 corridor so all the projects are like uh prioritized based on seeing what would be the traffic flow on that one so though i think those things are also considered to putting those budgets thank you all right so this is the list of the roadway cost feasible projects as um you know as we note at the bottom on i-75 with a double star it's not ranked it kind of has its own entity um so we did notice you have other stars there that i'm also interested in i'm interested to understand and maybe linda you can chime in if you want to but like i guess i'm confused at why university of florida projects are included in the long-range transportation planning sure so so those were submitted just like the city and county planning staff submit all the projects that are in their various plan documents so we submitted all the projects that are in our plan documents if for nothing else just so that they get put into the model and then the model could reflect you know what would happen if those projects were implemented in the future but then because they get put in then they also become prioritized through the process it just seems that they're taking up a significant portion of the funds that would be dedicated to our county and it feels like uf already enjoys like not paying taxes into the county and a lot of services as a result of that so it feels like maybe those projects don't belong as a top ranked projects in the lrtp i mean i'm i want you know also i guess it just i don't know i don't know if there's any consideration from from that perspective or if uf is already allocating funds for these projects internally because they're uf based projects right well um i mean i think you know we expected that that question would come up and i think it's something we can certainly can talk about um you know just like every other agency we have a lot of needs and not enough funding you know the university just took a five percent across the board budget cut um but that said you know there are local projects that get moved on to stay on the needs list and just get moved to the anticipated local funding projects so i think you have something in your your tac recommendations that um provide an alternative way to address those projects um but but we just uh you know i mean this is the way the priorities shook out from the process and so yeah we didn't really have any right you don't have anything it just it just feels a little i guess from that perspective it just feels a little bit flawed not because those projects aren't important that's not but when you look at the traffic flow like most of our town can't even drive through the campus like one of those roads isn't even like accessible to the majority of people for the majority of time because of the way campus like control like fletcher drive like the way that they control all the way that traffic flows through there so it feels odd to me to for this funding to be the funding that would be dedicated to a project like that i mean from a safety perspective it's a huge improvement i know because i watch what happens with the car you know people interactions in that space i could see how it would rise to the top when it's in a model but when you're talking about like you know the overall like amount of funds we have and like which projects are going to improve the the all of those criteria that we had as our priorities it feels like at least for the number one project that's on this list feels like one that maybe we could shouldn't be on the list or maybe should be lower down in terms of a priority rank on the list yeah and and just to help you understand the the scope of that project um it's both fletcher and buckman the idea is to create one-way pairs that mimic what the city did on the streets that that meet them on the north side of university avenue and in doing so we're able to provide protected bike lanes basically cycle track facilities are what are recommended and because it would change the flow it also makes fletcher more open so it's not part of that auto restricted part of campus gotcha buckman would still be um but but fletcher would not so it would open it up go ahead i'm just i just wanted to make sure that we're all comfortable okay um so and this is a you know list of all of the multi-model projects map here um you know a lot of the projects um you know they're they're all good projects it's essentially there are more projects than funds available they're dedicated for the multi-model but um there's that essentially we kept all of the projects as blocks from projects um so it's the agency can use the other plans that are coming up and you know collaborate and finalize the list the top projects and uh you know use the funds and the other thing that can be done is a lot of the multi-model projects are also qualified for the uh for grant projects grant programs um the this process did not include the grant because the grants are subject to winning the grants so um so you know dedicated project funds are essentially the funds that are available for the mtp it's a large list of projects on the multi-model so i do have a question about the multimodal yes like you said there's a whole bunch of them um and they're trying to double check about who ranked what so um and again these ranks are not final and these ranks are with the current process but with the multimodal plan that the county's plan is uh the bike and pedestrian plan that is ongoing um so these ranks will be double checked adjusted okay so i had a question about you uh did you did uf rank only projects on campus or do they rank anything outside of campus where lots of students live for instance these were not ranked by uf these were ranked by your process by your consultants and your thc technical well there are points given by city agency county agency and uf so that's why rank is wrong could you all give any points on any of the multimodal that's my my question so here like this ranking is based on technical scoring plus agency scoring so there are three different agencies like city county county and university of florida so we took the max out of this agency whatever score is maximum out of these three agencies and we combine that technical score with the agency score and we prepared the total score and using that total score and cost benefit ratio like as she mentioned that the score was used to prepare this like score to benefit a cost ratio and then the rank was prepared okay yes that's what i just i was i was wondering just because like some of this multimodal is where lots of students live but it is not immediately adjacent to campus so i try to understand because knowing some of the multimodal uf uf assigned points to a roundabout at gale mower or mowery road so that's on campus so but but it's a multimodal project so that kind of made sense to me um i just i just saw project 198 was ranked 17 southwest 20th and southwest 24th um and some of those having a dedicated bike path on it or some sort of a multimodal path because there's not complete uh sidewalks particularly 20th um east of i-75 and then west of i-75 there's there's new apartment complexes there's new housing and like that i'm just surprised it didn't go up a little you know go a little further but i looked and saw that um it did it did get some city points on there um but not actually no no but then it scored multimodal as four which was the second best multimodal score out of all of them but it got left all the way down to 17. so i appreciate looking at the full thing see because it it's one that stuck out in me as like that should be a great project it should hit the multimodal and sure enough it did but it was not highly prioritized by the all all of the agencies as highly prioritized or scored as high but i saw that as 17 and i would really rather have that than a bike trail all the way to waldo that's me personal uh you know commissioner taylor no no offense right but anyways thank you so much for explaining some of that one of the things that can affect the writing is the cost of the project as well so the the cost estimate is high it says the scale the cost ratio the cost is in the denominator so the cost grows up the rank and goes down so that's one of the numbers still it is within the reach rank 17. so i think with the current funding you're reaching up to 15 16 projects can be funded um you know these projects i did the map and i saw that it was probably just outside of of the funding available that's why it caught my attention yeah yeah um yeah i had some question comment on the multimodal table as well i was pleased to hear you say that um these are not particularly ranked in the same way that the first table was that we saw but i don't think that's very clear in the narrative so that may need to be stated more clearly and um i was because i was really surprised at the university avenue complete street segments yeah ranking 72 74 and 75 out of 111 when they've really been a focus in this organization for a long time um and so i'm curious you said that these this ranking could be changed would that be done through an lrtp amendment in the future when some of these other uh like the bike master plan and the the um safe streets for all plans are done would it be an lrt amendment we come back to this yes i i think so um and also regarding the complete streets projects um one of the things they actually scored really high just that um their cost is very high because of the roadway infrastructure improvements um the score to cost ratio is coming up high again um those are um you know they can be adjusted um you know with uh revised priorities um also there may be other grant programs that those complete street projects can be qualified for um so that can be and could this organization move them up on this table today as part of the adoption if they so desire um if the board wishes uh that uh we can certainly conduct that and this is a you know list of transit projects uh the map of the transit projects um and there is um you know blocks funds again dedicated for these um essentially there's a good amount of transit funds that are available um to fund um a lot of these and in addition to the um actual physical transit lines some park and ride facilities and buses are also identified in the transit uh cost feasible plan and lastly the safety projects they're they're all given a dedicated funding um to be implemented so all safety projects have been included in the um in a cost feasible plan so this is the overall project timeline that our team has gone through um you know several technical analysis and uh meetings public involvement processes um so we are here um at the finish line um looking for that option thank you that's a lot of numbers that's a lot of numbers you have any questions yes sir and then we can discuss it okay okay all right has anybody got a timeline issue that do we have to vote on this or it's just a public hearing we do oh so so we need to make any more okay okay well do we still have we still have the four and three or is it just 10 total uh is it just eight members of the 15 because i thought the bylaws so nobody can leave at this point okay that's right okay so it's it's a public hearing so we need to hear from the public all right there sir let's tell us hello everybody uh i am sayyad muhammad iqtadar haider but in gaitville alasha county the students people everybody know me with the name muhammad i have done about 15 years research scientific research and legal on a property its cost right now is about two million dollars which in my presence in america or all over the world any attorney anybody cannot say muhammad this belongs to this gentleman or this organization because i have all of documentation which i i can prove it that this property is not belonging to anybody therefore few days before i have honorable mayor he left the commissioners are here i have given the written information to them i said please take this property this is a gift from muhammad of a research to you and luckily today i got the time and yesterday i came here i have given the written information some information to your office and today in the water around about 2 15 i sent some more documentation because i'm the man of documentation i'm not i say oh i'm listening from here and give the information to you and in short what i'm saying whatever the property the name on the warranty date in alasha county available the name of that organization that i'm challenging that is not their property what happened in short i'm lucky enough that i got that document which i started searching in 2010 and when i got this document that is called declaration of trust which these two students mr yasser al ajlani he's ex-president of msa at uf and this is the trigger mr amir ansari they have signed a declaration of trust with and make they said yeah they make it a a declaration of trust in 2006 that we own this property and we are giving to another non-profit to our corporation that one they are making as a trustee of this property they were not here from the state they were in illinois at that time and the other organization the 10 10 work comma ink period in short for you you will be surprised to know the way they have written their name in this trust muslim student association of the university of florida gainesville a florida non-profit organization tax exempt under section 501 c and 3 anybody can look on the website of division of cooperation you will not find this organization and if you go to the website of the irs you will not got their tax exemption similarly this organization the 10 the 10 10 work comma ink period also it is not registered with division of cooperation and not having tax exempt status as the irs and because i got the data from the university i went to there and i thought what is going on about these students they gave me the information a lot of paperwork my car is for my house is so many papers in short it is not allowed any organization whosoever is registered in uf they can use the name of university for you know what we all got that information today i think it was did you bring it today and it's going to be a county thing that we're going to be talking about so this group will not be able to address that but our county no no i mean this is the whole because our property is located in city of kansas and you are the allowed to i'm giving all the people here right now because eventually the property will book my uh i mean this is my offer you might appeal this information what i have and take this property and make it public for everybody for all the religion okay interfered we will absolutely take that on and thank you we have the information from you yes the other thing which i want because what happened yesterday i'm sorry to say gpd uh mayor office has gone yesterday when i made a complaint written complaint to the gpd officer he gendered he was a young man he was unable to understand he did not reported an incident report and he was not ready to take my written statement he was trying to avoid it it will take too much time i said don't worry i have waited 15 years i can't wait i said nobody no officer no police officer can detect because there's so much new secrecy so many complicated process that i have gone through and my humble summation to all of you here that luckily i have his contact number i was having the contact of this gentleman now he moved to pakistan i tried to test him he is the location but i was unable but once when i tried to contact him on his on his number he refused to give me the information but this change doesn't matter he is receiving my message he is receiving my letter which i'm sending but when i'm sending the information to him here the people who are illegally occupying this property attention west university everything we are not picking up let me do you think they are not picking up his letter my share point of order i'm sorry sir you you've had we've got your information five minutes and you three is all you get i'll tell you now my humble last word very quickly because they've been here a long time this is i'm giving you free information two million property i'm donating you on my reserve and we want to talk to you about this is just not the place to do it the thing is to make it easier to start off involving so many people only this gentleman i have his phone number contact number we can invite him here okay gentlemen come here and tell what government is saying we will ready to forgive you whatever you have done otherwise we will take action for loss okay and we will help you any way we can but this is not not the forum that will do that for you but our county can we have resources to help you okay all right not have me have your share oh well that's that sounds good to me thank you thank you sir uh and we have some more public comment that's okay that's what i'm okay yeah yeah come right on introduce yourself long range plan that we're getting ready yes all right got it hey y'all um i'm sarah gamble i'm a resident of gainsville in the university park neighborhood i live right along university avenue i'm also a bike commuter and a mother of two children under the age of five um so transportation safety and creating a welcoming environment as we kind of move around the city and the county is really important to me i also am an architecture professor and serve as the vice chair of the university's transportation and parking committee so i just wanted to come and make a public comment on many of the projects that surround the university many of the state roads that many in the university community use to get to and from campus and you know i too noticed that several of those complete streets projects were much further down the list than i would have expected they're incredibly impactful they're we're seeing you know that concentration of bike and ped use daily in that in that kind of tight area within kind of our larger county and i would think we would want to support more people using bike and ped methods to get to and from campus major employer major anchor as well as downtown gainesville right we're seeing a concentration of people um using bus bike ped right and we want to we want to make these spaces more safe and also welcoming right nice environments for people to move around so i would encourage you to move those up on your ranking list right we use them every day they're incredibly important um and i was also surprised not to see the section of university avenue between 34th street and 13th street even included in a project anywhere um the the complete streets projects on your list are ones to the east of 13th street um and with the completed pd and e study by the city that covers kind of a broader swath of university avenue i would love to see it as a project that you know you're ranked on your list to give uh you know us the city of gainesville and the county the possibility of funding it in whatever way we can to see the improvements made along that streetscape i would encourage the board to move those up on the list and even add projects maybe that we're not seeing on the list today i know you have a very kind of complicated methodology but you know taking users into account or is incredibly important and just in noticing your community engagement timeline you began in march and concluded today so that meant except for one of those meetings school was not in session so you likely missed lots of people that might have something to do with the university whether they're faculty staff or students during those public meetings as well as your survey if you only kind of directly contacted 200 people which seems like a very small fraction for our entire county population so thank you any other public comments okay seeing none do we need we need a a motion or discussion from the board i i just wanted to note that commissioner chestnut had to leave so i think we lost quorum no no we have three we have three okay i need to go soon too i'm sure thank you um i know that i i had similar concerns about the complete streets projects on the university but i do want to note for the public that one of them is west of 13th it's 13th it's 13th it's 13 to the 20th actually so one of the complete streets projects ranked number 72 is in fact you know right across from the university but not all the way to like 22nd not not quite all the way to uh to you know to a point um but those other portions might be something that is not complete street at some point in the future but i know that we were really focused on that section as complete street um so i just wanted to make sure we point that out so i don't know about the moving up cut i understand that mr vernazzi has really focused on the you know the the machine that you know we put the data in and kind of what it spits out so i i i want to trust that process process though i had some concerns about what spit out but i understand that part of it is the cost estimate that the sort of super big things um you know complete street on archer road you know in front of um uh butler plaza is a very big project 22 23 million dollars so it gets it gets kicked way down um so i don't know does anyone does anyone this board want to be moving anything or is it that we accept some of that particularly i think some of us are looking at some of the multi-model thank you madam chair all right thank you madam chair i have a couple of questions for the consultant i'm sorry all right so um so miss campbell made a good point you know it's complex methodology it's formulas it's expertise it's using consultants thing and uh much like you um i do not want to put my forth my expertise as greater than the the process it gets us to here so there's like for example in the 2050 project there's 100 and 111 projects listed and i'm not sure if 72 should be 68 or 85 should be 75 it would be exceedingly difficult for us to try and essentially horse trade those while there's some that concern me too at least that's my thought and yet we have to adopt this today correct um mr dober i mean we could be here for a few hours and we can try and move different projects here um but we have to adopt it today by law the question would be we look we have more reflection we we get further input in the next few months what are our what are our time um displays that allow us to potentially change or edit the 2050 plan so the um multimodal projects are very they have dedicated box funds so just because they are ranked some of the projects are ranked like number 55 today it doesn't mean that they will not be funded so they there's potential for reorganizing those projects once um you know the bike pedestrian master plan is finalized we intentionally had them categorized um or sort of allocating box funds to them so that we could allow the you know very bicycle pedestrian focus master planning effort and all of the really intensive community engagement we've done for that to inform the ultimate ranking of those projects um so i'd say the ranking within the multimodal is not a very serious concern for me um and that's because we allowed it to be you know organized by box funds and so we can allocate as that plan calls all right so so from your standpoint uh miss moss um we should probably adopt this then if we have i think i'm reading into what you say so please correct me yeah i would say that the rank the particular ranking is not incredibly important the omission of a project i think is more potentially of more serious concern um but the lrtp can be amended in the future all right well that's particularly if it's income if it um contradicts the the findings the ultimate recommendations of the bicycle pedestrian master plan then we would come back and amend the lrtp so just to clarify if it's in the bike master plan then most likely that could be added to the we'd have to go through the process which involves a significant amount of community engagement um and miss akeya brown can speak more to that but it is redoing a lot of the community engagement to get us back to the the point of adopt you know re-adopting the lrtp but if there is inconsistency between the two plans it would make sense that was my last question so our overlapping plans we've been working on for the last two and three years and some things that might come up and help us inform could in fact allow us to to alter some of these once we get that information back if necessary all right so um madam chair when you're ready i'll be prepared to make the motion i want to make the point that you know while i appreciate models and all the stuff and expertise that goes into that we are the people that live in this community we are the ones that deal with our constituents we are the ones that you know are are commuting to uf or wherever and so i think it is important that we look at all of this you know carefully um i'm i wish i'd had more time with this particular list which i didn't get in my box out of my box until today my fault but um the um i think that uh i think it's just as long as we can can make the changes that need to be made i i actually would like to see an impactful project like the complete streets go forward at the expense of a whole bunch of tiny projects you know that that may have less overall impact on safety and so that that's you know my thought process but if we can change this in the future i'm okay with that but i i do think that um you know a one big impactful project might just be one project that we can do but i would rather see that happen than than you know a whole bunch of little projects that may not have the same amount of impact yeah i mean um i mean to that point one of the things that i liked about the process and i do think that there was a lot about the denominator as you called it like the cost um you can see i mean what what i think you pointed this out to me during the lrtp when we went over this with the public was that you get a lot of bang for your buck with multimodal projects like a bicycle boulevard is simply planning a bike lane is just is uh is you know much cheaper than building a new road and so the um the bang for you buck you get out of that is just enormous in terms of getting cars off the road and the cost that that brings to government it does seem like it did because the denominator meant so much within this that it prioritized sort of simple like you know simpler even multimodal projects like bicycle boulevards were all the top you know two to three projects that were in there and not those large-scale multimodal projects but i do think that you know bringing in some questions about like where people live like some a little bit more in-depth study that we get from the bicycle pedestrian plan will get us there um on to the point of the actual motion i would say that um uh adopting the lrtp with the tac conditional recommendation um that uh mystics and kind of mentioned what that essentially does is takes the uf projects and then reallocates those funding that would be in multimodal and safety projects am i am i saying it correctly um i think that's a good recommendation which would then keep within the same process of moving whatever those multimodals and safety projects are up the list a little bit more um and so that that would be the motion that i would say is approval second motion second commissioner hayes answer i was already it was mainly about can we make changes to it with the bicycle okay since we get the chair back we'll have forum she just ran to grab something so the motion is to adopt the 2015 lrtp cost field feasibility plan with the additional recommendations of the tac correct um my only comment is um i believe this will be updated in five years for our 20 um 55 long range transportation plan and so uh hopefully staff has heard the importance of moving up um some of these multimodal projects i thought this gamble's comments were literally spot on and reflect uh i believe the majority if not the entirety of this board so um hopefully those will be considered so we have a motion all right we have a second and i'll turn it back to you for discussion thank you any any more discussion i'm in the motion seeing none all in favor say aye aye i don't like sign opposed all right thank you gentlemen so please win motion um and then albert was a second thank you thank you i'll bring that okay all right so uh we've got our meetings taken care of and we've gotten i think we've done all the business that we needed to take care of so now we're ready for member comments and we've already had general public comments you all i'm going to have to leave i've got to get a sixth grader to mbain for their first band meeting and mom is working so i've got to go do that so mary is this what i'm going to hear what you have to say though uh yeah so um i have an amazing intern who happens to be a uf student who has lost her transportation to campus and so she and her enthusiasm wrote this full report on the rts funding crisis so she calls it in service cuts and then she also compiled a separate uh document of the impacts of the rts service cuts to uf students in the gainesville community which i thought was pretty good what she did not include in that report was uh some of the paratransit issues that were discussed today which i might ask her to include but i thought that this was uh this was really good information it has some excellent timelines it has some good um talking points and um in in there there was a comment that was made by um mayor ward um on uh august 14th where he says and i was hoping he would be here for this discussion but he had to go um he says looking to the future he wants rts to continue but he doesn't think the model we have now is sustainable he loves that the city is operating a transit system but it probably shouldn't be operated by the city of gainsville rts should be its own thing which would allow for a taxing unit separate from the city this would require more input than the city going and asking uf for money i would like to um ask if this board would support getting staff to look at what it would take to have an independent transit authority or something similar i think the time is right to have that discussion and i think that the place that we are at we just heard all of the problems that we're having with with traffic around campus with and we've just probably added 10 000 scooters to the road because that's the only way these folks are getting to getting to campus and uf is requiring folks that we're working remotely to go to campus and we already only have you know one parking space for every three point five uh cars that need to get there so it's it's a real crisis i think and um so if you guys would support that i would like to make that motion good anybody adrian you want to say something i think i'm very much supportive of it i've been looking for years that we need to go to a transit authority um i think we should wait until we actually we hire someone um a permanent person before we put that on to to staff because we did have one report as well that came in as well we had that one consultant i think so that that would be i wouldn't repress if let's wait until we actually hire and i'm i'm okay with that but i think it needs to what i what i what i would say is that we go ahead and put the motion out there but we don't put a timeline on and that way because that way we can um you know collective collect information as it comes in and be prepared for that i i that would be my suggestion thanks so um i i mentioned this at a meeting that that the mayor was at i think it was a city commission meeting that the state has been kicking around the idea of getting rid of independent taxing authorities completely i know this uh library boards have said hey how about you exempt us from that getting rid of and i don't know whether transportation authorities would also try to find that exemption because at that point what's the point of passing a state law that gets rid of um local taxing authority special districts in essence and so i worry a little bit about that you know where that heads but that's kind of so that's somewhere out there i will say that a taxing though it may be right for this i will just remind that the city of gainesville is we're going to our voters about a referendum um there is uh there is um i'm missing something here about uh long term what we do with um with the gcra some of this stuff about government what types of government it's a lot of moving pieces and changing pieces uh the county may even have to at some point go back to the voters about their single member districts versus you know at large there's a lot of moving pieces so i get a little worried that the the voters and taxpayers in our county and city it's a lot of moving pieces to throw this on potentially right now but the overall idea of studying and see where we fit in is you know like i can get behind that kind of idea and another thing is the county used to operate the regional transit system that could be another thing that staff would look at but it but you know the the mayor mentioned an independent taxing district so i thought that you know he he's closer to rts than i am so i made that as the motion but i think if staff wanted to look at you know other options but i did mention that too so just one a transit authority has to be enabled by the state legislature so it's not like uh it's not something that locally we cannot do it they they have to create the authority and then it goes to the voters so it's an excellent motion um because transit has already changed transit today does not look like what it's looked like in the last five and ten years based on the various types of um transportation that people are taking so i i would just echo as long as you don't have a time frame this is clearly for in the new executive director and take that on that is a it's a huge project it's a meaningful one um i did want to put on the record here so some of the in the um the explanation by the intern who has done a tremendous amount of work uh she just mentioned rts bus routes five and eight and i just think it's important to mention that we we did restore this is not full and it's not every 30 minutes but the the city did vote um last week to restore essentially bus routes five and eight and 15 and 43 so that's four routes at the cost of 522 000 to the city so that means we did recognize the cost benefits and these were four of our our most needed routes two that really directly impact the university and uf health in particular and two that really directly impact the community although they do take so i thought that's meaningful and um uf in fact kicked in about 136 130 to 215 000 to help us get there and we still had to come up with 522 000 for just four routes so we did put our money where we think our priorities are which is getting people around the community no and and she recognized that she actually wrote most of this thursday while you guys were at your meeting so that might be the case any other comments yeah mary i was just going to say she did a great job she did you know what she really identified is the elimination of routes could add a lot of vehicles to the roads yeah it does affect the transportation um system from my perspective i i would love uh i would love as our staff is kind of researching what what creating an authority means and then doing a ballot initiative to actually fund the authority what i like about that thought is you really are putting it to the voters yeah you know do you want a transit system that eliminates cars off the road so it makes traffic better and then it also moves folks around um quicker because i i don't know if we've ever really had that kind of ask to our citizens no i don't think we have and um and so it's obviously a big education um campaign but i think that that discussion starts with the city commission which is where where the current transit obviously is and so i i i don't mind doing research and getting information but i i will defer to my colleagues at the city with regards to what their thoughts are and if the if a majority or the rest of them share what the mayor's thoughts are that i've read then i think that makes a lot of sense for us to then start talking about that counting why i conclude any other comments any comment from the committee is your intern in the room uh no she's i'm sure all right all in favor say aye aye like sign opposed like that motion passes is there anything else yes yes yeah just unremembert comments um for our representative from the dot i would uh if you would just communicate up the chain how frustrated i am with the idea that we are going to have to spend budget money ripping up crosswalks that by every study i've seen actually make driving safer in the area and we are going to be tearing up basically a safety device in an already tight budget year when we could be spending money on making roads safer expanding services any of these other things it certainly feels like um this came from from a cultural war perspective and i realize there's other things are being caught up in it but i can say as a as a local representative for local people no one in this community wants this it's uh i feel like it's detrimental i feel like it's bad money i feel like it's hypocritical for us to talk about safety and then force localities so if you could please communicate that opportunity how much i absolutely just as policy would be the same you commissioner uh yeah that was when you were out of care when you were walking downstairs there was a big discussion about that maybe that's maybe if you go back and watch it at the same time yeah thank you uh commissioner um and and uh i in full agreement with you uh commissioner engel i did want to pivot to a different point here that are um that uh as of this meeting this is our very last meeting with uh with hdr as our con as our general uh planning consultant i guess or whatever kind of vague position they were in in terms of this role um i just uh want to thank hdr for all the hard work thank you for all the phone calls not just brad there are other folks that are in the room that or that have worked on this well i think they will continue to work with us but i just thank you guys for all your hard work it's the only mtpo i've ever done well charise did have to leave but she's the one that does the minutes and so you'll notice that when you get the minutes next time they'll be really good and then they'll be like no we just like so charise does does that and among other things she kind of loads up the e-scribing and julie puts together all the memos and so we have people doing things on the background and we have another person that manages the tip and and so it's really it has been a team effort so i i get to interact with you which is the fun part but there's a lot of people doing it behind the scenes kind of keeping it so you know i've enjoyed it i've enjoyed it to meet everybody so um and i i'm going to be watching and seeing how it goes because i have you're best to see the future and just as much for the uh the you know for we just criticized fdot but i will say that fdot if they had not found a way to make to be creative and make this work within their budget i have no idea how we would have made this transition work i have no idea how we would have been able to carry this to the place that it is today and so thank you to wakaya and the florida department transportation team for this for uh you know for for finding ways to be creative and make this work so thank you all right we stand adjourned