We'll call the meeting to order for informational purposes only since we don't have a quorum. And first, I guess we'll ask for staff if they have any updates or information they would like to share. We do have, we have a couple updates we can give for the county. Are you saying sure of me? No, I can do it. Sure, come on up. Hi, Jenison Kipp, resiliency specialist with the Environmental Protection Department. Thank you for the chance to give you a quick update. Great, so following your June meeting, we're preparing for the August 26th evening Board of Commissioners workshop to walk through the Climate Action Plan with a focus on, you know, the next year incremental strategies and action items that should be prioritized that we'd like to hear your feedback on, you know, how we prioritize those across all the chapters. We are at a significant milestone with getting that second version with a lot of updates and all of the feedback thus far ready to, you know, in a second version that's going to go live this week to our website. When that does happen, is it possible to also get a copy to LaToya to get to all the commissioners so that they have time to read it in preparation for that meeting at the end of August? Yes, and it's large. There are a lot of, each chapter is large, and so what we thought about doing, what we're prepping to do is have the Climate Initiatives page of our EPD page updated with the hyperlink so that you'll be able to just download it there so that we're not sending large files. Do you want a paper, a version? I want a printed copy, yeah. A printed copy? I do. I can't read that much online. If it's, I only need changes, I've got a printed copy because I had to do a presentation on it last, a couple weeks ago. Okay. Yeah, I mean, LaToya will probably want to just see how everybody prefers to get it, but. Okay. If you can just let her know that once you have it prepared, find out how many copies. Yeah, I typically don't mind a PDF, but I have a printed one already. Okay. I don't mind if it's like 20 pages or less, but once it gets over that, I'm like, oh, okay, that's a lot of reading on a computer. Plus, I like to take notes on. Yeah. Okay. And we'll send an email to you all, too, when it's live, so you can start to see the electronic version as well as soon as it's ready. And then we have the only other priority update is the Citizen Climate Advisory Committee. The vacancies have been, the opening and applications have been extended. The deadline until August 14th. So we have selection of those vacancies would be on October 6th, which is your next joint board meeting. Unless we can schedule something. Yeah, unless. Yeah, we should schedule something before October. Before? Either a late August or September meeting. Oh, yeah, if you schedule. Okay. I think we should try to get another meeting in before October. Okay. Especially because you have the November event. Yeah. August 14th, you say? August 14th, and we have 10 applicants, two for the youth position, which there's only one position open for the youth member, and then eight for the others, most of them for the alternate, but we're still, we have some very strong applicants. Oh, good. So we don't need to really advertise that. Okay. Yeah. We have strong, but any additional applications would be much appreciated. How many seats are there for? We have three, three-year terms and one alternate. Okay. Plus the youth? Plus the youth. So five seats. So five total seats. Yes. So that's, yeah. Youth, alt, and three reg. Yep. Okay. And, um. Well, anybody in here is letting you know we have seats available on our Client Citizen Climate Advisory Committee. It's a once a month commitment. Once a month. They do meet monthly. We've given them the option of skipping a month, and they never want to. Is it evenings? It's the third Monday of the month in the evening from 6 to 8 p.m. in this room. Okay. So our next meeting is two weeks from today on the 18th. Yeah. And, um, we just, we've got multiple press releases out. We just released a joint press release with the EPAC Advisory Committee because there's overlap there, so, and there are a lot of vacancies on that one as well, but, um, yeah, people are excited about it. So, uh, yeah, if you do end up scheduling, or if you choose to schedule, reschedule this meeting earlier, you can do the approvals. Yeah, I'd like to get that done. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Wonderful. Did you all settle on a final date for the November Climate Summit? And will you tell us what that is? November 15th. So it's Saturday, um, joint with the UF event that they're planning on, well, we're coordinating with the keynote speaker, Michael Grunwald, um, during his visit. And it's at the Alachua County Extension Office in Newberry. In time? Yeah. Um, it'll be roughly, we don't have the precise time set yet, but we're expecting it'll be, like, nine in the morning at the earliest, and the first hour to two hours, it'll be very, you know, the plan is for it to be a festival so that it's a ceremonial adoption of the approval, hopefully the adoption of the final by then. But, um, you know, it's up to the board direction. Good question. No. We haven't decided. We have not. Yeah, we haven't worked on that yet. Yeah. I, I, I encourage you to do something about that because I, I, I really want the, I want the Climate Action Plan to be considered a valuable document across the entire community and, and I, I, I want to make sure that, you know, people have the opportunity to get there if they can. If there's a way to do that in a cost-effective way, I don't know. Yeah. We'll have to brainstorm. Yeah. Ideas for that. I mean, at a minimum, maybe we can have a bus that goes in time for the beginning, maybe a bus that leaves at the lunch hour, and then a bus that brings people back at the end. Like, we may not be able to provide consistent round service, but at least if we could provide services so they want to participate in the full event or half of the event, they would be able to. Yeah. We have the bus that we were buying for Cusco Willa, so we should be able to use it. It won't be being used for Cusco Willa in November. Oh, that's a, yeah, good idea. Yeah. So perhaps we could use that bus. Awesome. Yeah. And the, you know, bonus of that venue is that we won't have to cap the attendance. So we anticipate, you know, the morning version being indoors, you know, the speaking event being on a, you know, a pre-planned agenda. We have to have that very well, you know, process agenda worked out prior to that, of course. But we're hoping, you know, most of the day will be open with showcasing what's happening here in this county in terms of climate action and, you know, with an anchor around food systems, but addressing the entire climate action plan and, you know, of all ages. So, you know, and we did, I guess, one other update. Can I, I can announce we are, we have our paid intern who's going to be focusing on the climate festival with us today, Ava Valene. Oh, welcome. Today is her first day, so she's going through orientation. And so as we're at this sort of milestone, getting the second version, of course, the cap is still evolving and developing. There are going to be changes before the final approval and adoption. You know, we're continuing to work on that, but we're really full steam ahead with getting the festival planned and preparing for the workshop and continuing to collect feedback from the public. We're not closing the online portal on the climate initiatives website. Staff have been very diligent about, you know, making sure they're addressing all their comments. And Sophia Avelez has been our temp and amazing, amazing working on this version of the cap and coordinating with community members and staff and with all of, you know, all the advisory boards, all the feedback we've gotten. And this is her last week with us and she'll be moving on to graduate school in Vermont. I do want to recognize Sophia because she's just been an amazing machine helping us get this done. If I could give you some feedback, I presented, did a presentation to a group of folks in the, what's it called, the climate class that, the climate collaboratory? Oh, the CLEO? CLEO. Oh, the folks out at, um, out at, uh, Hammock, Oak Hammock. Oak Hammock. Oh, nice. And so we used a lot of the, what can you do parts at the end of the chapters, very well received, very well received. That was a really nice addition because that was the whole point of the presentation is they wanted to come up with a, uh, a, um, a project. And so that, what you can, what can you do part of the chapter was real inspiration for their brainstorming for coming up with a project. That's wonderful to hear. Yeah. And, and I'm listening because the, the second version of the climate action plan, when you see it, the template has been like, it's, it's got a unified voice now across all the chapters. We've had, you know, we have a lot of authors of each chapter, some of them crossing the chapters, but that, what you can do, um, portion of the chapter is written as the community engagement part. And we've also added a program highlights part that really, it doesn't call out, you know, specific community partners, but it's, it's a way to capture the breadth of what the county is doing across all of these programs. And the, you know, private sector and nonprofit and all the other partners in the community who are critical to keep the work going. So, um, I think we're getting to, I hope we're getting to a, you know, a version that once adopted will really be able to hit the ground running with implementation and movement into a climate dashboard. I didn't know if you guys had considered the fact that groups might look at this for inspiration, not just individuals. And that, that, that, that was, uh, there's, they were still working on it. They're, they, they had, they wanted some more talking time, but I'm waiting, I'm waiting to hear the announcement. It's fine. Yeah. Well, thank you for going along. Thank you very much. Betsy, do you have anything or Steve, anything else on the updates? Yeah, I think we're good. Okay. I think we're good. Okay. Well, then we will move on to public comment. Any public comment from anybody here wanting to share any comments? Please come to the mic, introduce yourself, and then feel free to tell us what you want to tell us. So, um. Introduce yourself. Sorry. I forgot about that. I haven't been here enough. Leslie Straub. I am a biologist, director and founder of Florida Wildlife Care. And I have been, um, looking into the climate work that's been going on locally. And so I had my perspective that I wanted to bring to you guys. So, um. And I did attend the advisory board, too, and brought this up at that meeting as well. But, um, I thought it was important to get this out there to as many ears as possible. Um. So, um, so the three things that this really has to do with the action plan is, um, insect-borne diseases, land use, and natural resources. Um. Um, insect-borne diseases is directly attached to wildlife health, because they can be a reservoir, but if they aren't in good health. And they are our front line to those insect-borne diseases. Most of our insectivores are birds and bats. And those are the two things that are protecting us from a lot of those mosquitoes and things that are out there. And each species eats different mosquitoes. So it's not like we just can protect one group or one species or something like that. We need the diversity in that. And I'm sure, you know, you guys know this, but I wanted to reinforce that. Um. So land use. And I know it's important to increase density in, you know, in the middle of the cities and developed areas. But I really am seeing, this is the problem that I'm seeing, um, with the rehab is that we don't have, if we get animals in, sometimes, and it's increasing, that we can't release them back where they came from. And there's no other place to, that is shrinking. And so what we're finding is that, um, to avoid habitat loss is to, because a lot of species do, um, uh, are urban wildlife. They are compatible with human activity. And that those small pockets in these new developments that are going in, um, really support urban wildlife and decrease heat island effects of these developments with asphalt and the buildings. And we need native plants to do that, um, because to have native plants, we'll have native insects, which means we have our native species, uh, diversity. And the natural resources, these urban forests are really actually used by wildlife. And it's not just trees, because I sit, I don't sit on the board, but I, I've been going to the tree advisory board meetings for over a year now and bringing this perspective to them as well. And we need not only to preserve our tree canopies and our trees, but we need our smaller trees, we need our understory, we need our bushes, we need our ground covers. And, like, for example, I, this is a simple example, uh, the new apartments near Santa Fe College on 98th and 23rd, I think, um, we had a baby mockingbird. This was last year. And so I went out. They're easy because you just put them in a safe spot because he was fledging and you can, they just reunite and parents take care of them and they're fine. I got there and that bird, but there was no place to put him. At all. They had turned down the whole entire forest. They put tons of grass. They had a little, like, couple bushes and a couple trees left at the retention pond. And then the, there was some woods, I don't think it was their property, but behind the, the buildings, you know, the distance behind. And so I had to walk, you know, I let the baby cry, waited till the parents got right overhead, met at me, walked a little farther. I walked, I had to walk them around the building and I went to the reservoir and, walked them and put, put it in the bushes. And I was like, this is the best I can do. So good luck. And then as I was leaving, they have a, um, in the grassy area, which is kind of weird where they have it fenced off. They have a poop bag dispenser. One of the dispensers was empty and I saw a bluebird, an adult bluebird, and I was like, I wonder where they're nesting here. Sure enough, I met in there and there were little babies with their mouths open. And it was low too. That's low for a bluebird. So they're, you know, more open to foundation and that kind of thing. So urban wildlife, we'll find a way, whether they're successful in the end, I doubt it, the way we're going. So this is why I brought this up. Um, I sit on the Florida Bat Working Group and one of the things, uh, there was a federal, um, about one more minute to wrap up. Oh, okay. Just, yeah. Yeah. Just so it was like, yeah. I mean, there's nobody else here really, so I'm, one, I would let you go forever, but I just, yeah. Um, so, uh, and she did a presentation about how important these small little patches of forest in, uh, areas where there's construction or they've cleared the area or something like that. And when I went and, and to talk to her, like to say, you know, what's the minimum size? What's the minimum, you know, type of diversity of plants? You know, they have no idea. They just know that any size patch is important for bats. And there's one of our bats, which is our smallest bat, about this big, our tri-color, which, um, is now, uh, uh, proposed for federal listing of endangered species because of white nose, uh, you know, outside of Florida. And Florida may be the last reservoir of that species genetics. If they wake up, we may have to repopulate the population. And, um, so that's, I just wanted to kind of. No, I appreciate you coming in. Thank you. I had asked Leslie to come because I've worked with her years and years and years for these and I had not even considered that aspect, you know, of what we were doing in terms of making sure the trees stayed, you know, that we're protecting trees, but we're not only protecting trees, we're taking, taking care of it. We need to protect the ecosystem. Well, I, I'll just point out both our climate action, but we are in the process of getting ready to start our evaluation and appraisal report for our comprehensive plan. And each of the chapters of our, we have a natural resources chapter, we have a land use chapter. So your points would be very well taken during that process. And I think the first one is land use and that's coming up on the 12th, um, in the evening. And then we'll move from there. So please feel free to come and share your comments with the full board at that as well. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I really do appreciate it. Any other public comments? Mary Lindbergh. Can you hear me? Yes. Okay. Um, this might be the first time I'm not going to go over my two-hour parking. Yeah. I don't know if this, I figure this is, I don't know if it's the right group or where to go, but, um, when we had our heat advisory on the county notices last week and my 40 years of Florida, I've never heard of a heat advisory. Granted, I was, you know, child or not paying attention to things in the world most of the time, but, um, I was really surprised. It's like, it's hot enough for you to tell us it's hot. And then the direction side, you can go to a couple of community centers in Gainesville, um, nothing in the municipalities, or you can go to the library. So I was curious and I emailed staff and they directed me to the emergency manager. And I said, what's the threshold for opening a cooling center when there's a heat advisory? And, um, they got back to me right away and they said, our threshold for opening cooling centers is we're in a heat advisory with a power outage, which I understand that, but my concern are low income. And I was, I was thinking, I was thinking all week of the guy who comes to BOCC meetings that tells us how many, um, grew accounts are turned off. And I was just thinking of those families in the heat. Um, so then I was like Googling on the website and I found, um, a presentation that DEP did that has a map of how, what percent of the county is like 15 minutes away from the center if you need it. And it's just, there's a gap as we all can probably imagine, especially when it comes to the municipalities. Cause, um, I haven't had a hurricane season yet. I actually moved between the two hurricanes last year. Um, as I understand it, even in some of the municipalities, they're referred to town when there's like a hurricane. So I just feel like, um, so then my next question was, well, for directing people to the libraries, are we offering any more support at the libraries? And as I understand it, there's nothing really extra cause the libraries haven't really said, um, something yet. And this is just an email someone sent me. It's, I don't, I don't speak for anyone involved in that. So I don't know, um, like there's a local group taking bottled water, but they can only be there like an hour or two at certain libraries. So, um, the only idea I could think of was, um, at least with the couple libraries around me, they have a water fountain, but they don't have a water bottle refill system. Um, so if you are so hot and you go to the library for air conditioning, just get like a little trickle of water and you got to stand there. So I don't know, like in the hallway, you have that nice bottle water refill in station. If that could be an initiative one day to put in these public places that we are sending people to, you could even combine it with a reusable water bottle branded by the county. Like we didn't eat, there's so much Alash by 200 and stuff. Maybe it's a refillable water bottle with phone numbers you can call or directions on what to do when it's so hot, um, or in future weather we get. So I was just really thinking about population because, um, they can't get to a library if they don't have a car. So I was just thinking about them, but, um, I am excited about the climate action plan and kudos to being the first landlocked county to do that. I was watching the last meeting and to catch up. Um, I know the Gainesville commissioner are here. They don't know, but you know, kind of half my story. But, um, another idea when I was trying to catch up on stuff, I noticed that the citizen climate action, community action plans or climate action plans are not online. So if you could consider recording those meetings, cause if it is for citizens, we can watch it and not come here at night or, you know, just the way to even go back in time to catch up. Um, and if it's not the protocol you have for these advisory committees, I think this is such an important issue for it. I'm laughing cause we're talking about, we have a, tomorrow we're actually talking about our advisory committee processes and they're updating a lot of those. Okay, cool. Yeah. Cause it's like perfect, perfect time. Yeah. Okay. Just to say that. Old Lindbergh said that. So yeah, that was just the main thing. Cause I was talking about this with people in the community and they were like, oh, so like what can we do? I was like, you could apply to the board. What have they done? I don't know. I don't know if there's minutes or something. So yeah, those are just the main things I was thinking about, um, those communities. Um, and I, I know you're, the next time you have a quorum, you'll, uh, vote for the municipality representative. Um, I don't know, you might not have an answer now, but I was curious why there's only one opening when there's so many municipalities and like multiple municipalities have so much growth right now. Like I think of Newberry and Alachua. So no, um, I'm sure there's a rule about it somewhere. Neither of them even. Oh no, Alachua applied. So I get to answer a couple of your questions. Okay. Yeah. And that's it. It was just, it's hot and hot going on. I followed that online and I appreciate the comments that you made and, uh, and your email. Thank you. Oh, you saw my email? Yeah. Okay. I never know where those go. Yeah. We do get them. I was just on vacation and I kind of was like. We've been out of the office. Yeah. Yeah. So when emergency management applied, it was not copied to y'all. No, it wasn't. But thank you. Yeah. I appreciate that. I'm actually glad you brought up cooling centers. It's on my list to talk about with, for this meeting. So we don't quorum. It's a little bit whatever, but I did want to bring it up at the commission meeting too. Uh, you know, I, I too am concerned about the fact that when we have a hurricane, we have like a strategy and we open centers, it requires, I will say this, a lot of people don't understand that in order to be a hurricane shelter, there has, it has to be hardened a certain way. Um, it has to be built a certain way. And so we only have so many buildings, mainly at schools and then stay, um, and then they have to be staffed. And so we can't like open a shelter in every community all over the County. Like we just don't have the staffing resources, um, or the structures to do that. That's why people are, we try to do one on the East side, one on the West side, one central so that we do have that ability, but we really, people are going to have to travel when there's an emergency storm. It's just sort of the way it is. We try to always open them with plenty of notice. Um, and people can use, um, the transport, MV transport and other transport services to get there. Um, and we have a hotline if somebody needs assistance or support or needs to like transport their oxygen or their pet, those sorts of things. We have a pet shelter, we have shelters that have more, um, healthcare assistance. So it really is kind of an all hands on deck sort of situation. And I've been thinking about the fact that cooling centers aren't exactly, there aren't as any, aren't as many needs in terms of hardened structures and things, but they would have to be staffed and all of that if they were going to be overnight. Um, but given the situation with heat as it's going, I think it's something we do need to be talking about during the climate action planning process. Like what are we going to do about having overnight cooling centers for people whose power might be out or, um, and how, what would that look like? Because it would probably be a lot more regular than a hurricane shelter. It would probably be something we would be implementing several times in a summer. Um, anyway, so thank you for those comments. I 100% agree with you, um, that we need to have a better process and more resources associated with those cooling centers. Um, so thank you. And then with regards to the policy members, we couldn't even get anybody to nominate in the past. And we've had that seat vacant for quite some time. A lot of our small municipalities, you know, they have everyday full-time jobs and they serve their cities. They can get no pay or very low pay in the evenings. Our meetings are during the day, unfortunately. Um, so it was, it's hard to find somebody to fill that role. Um, and I think there wasn't quite an understanding of what the role is or why they should care, but I think more of the municipalities are beginning to have conversations about the importance of climate change to their decision-making around development. Um, and so we have three, um, this time around, which is really exciting for that position. But I think, I think if we had a successful one position and we had others, municipalities coming to us asking to participate, we would be happy to have them. And anyone can come to these meetings and provide input and engagement. Um, and we would definitely welcome them. So that's the answer on that one. Was there something else that I missed? I like the water bottle refill. Yeah, the water bottle refill. Uh, for the libraries. I think I would definitely bring that up at the library board. Yeah. I can, um, if, if I may, I can respond to the questions about the Citizen Climate Advisory Committee. We do record all of the meetings. Um, we've not been putting them online. It's a whole nother extra step. Um, because we hadn't been getting requests for quite some time. Um, but we do have them available if, if you're interested. We do take minutes. We then, we attach those minutes to approved to the commission. Yeah, we approve them. And, um, and the agendas are online as well in the meeting. Um, so. And are all those minutes published on the CACC website? We need to get, we have not done that recently. We need to add those since the transition. So we'll do that as well. Maybe we can post a minute there and some kind of a link that you can publicly request the recordings so that, because it's, it's hard to have all that storage space for the recordings, but at least they knew they could publicly request them if they wanted to. Watch a specific meeting for a reason or. The minutes are so, are so, um, truncated. They don't include the discussion items. They don't really include useful information. Ours has, ours has a lot. I was going to say, it depends on who takes the minutes. Our minutes are actually quite verbose. Okay, good. All right, good. Yes. I noticed that you guys, you all like really go, go there as opposed to some of the other. I'm looking at the ones attached here and I was like. Not ours. No, not, yeah. The citizen advisory booth. The citizen advisory booth, yeah. But yeah, ours are pretty truncated. Any other public comments? Okay, hearing none, we have member comments. I was also going to bring up the cooling, but I feel like we've had a good, robust conversation about that now and I do look forward to having that discussion when we can actually make some decisions. Yeah, I'm guessing at the climate, when you guys present the climate action at that evening meeting, it might be a good chance for us to have it as a board. We have action items related to that topic specifically, about trying to find strategies for evening cooling opportunity or nighttime because currently, you know, it's library hours. Yeah. My living room last night was 87 degrees and I have air conditioning. I just have a couple of heads up. I've been getting notices from surrounding areas about issues that people are concerned about that deal with water. And Santa Fe Lake dwellers sent me a copy of a letter that was sent to the mayor of Keystone because they are concerned about water consumption, sewage issues, if indeed they put an immigration collection center over at Camp Landing. So, they're concerned about, you know, what impacts it's going to have on the water situation in the north. Also, Bronson has been in touch with me regarding a project that they are putting together or they will be discussing tonight regarding pumping water from Bronson well to Cedar Key and the impact that that's going to have on the water. Is that because Cedar Key is experiencing sewage issues? The other option that they're discussing is desal there too. So, you know, these are big issues and they're big ticket items too, not only for the amount of water that's coming out of the ground, but the amount of money it's going to take for a little town like Bronson to be able to try to accumulate to make that happen. And there's like only 80 people in Cedar Key, you know, so. That's why I, I mean, I asked the question about the consumptive use with our, with our comprehensive plan or the ways in which we have any kind of say or that we don't, we're not allowed to regulate it, but it does seem that we need to have some ability to have a conversation about the withdrawals and what water is available for construction starts. Well, they're asking for help. And those things can be discussed at the Regional Planning Council. Right, right. But my experience with regional planning is that they rubber-stabbed everything. Well, they rubber-stabbed, check out that committee because I was on it for two years. I sat on it and I complained about it and I'm still complaining about it. Yeah. Okay, I did too. Because generally speaking, they just say, well, it doesn't really have an impact on the roads or the water. So just, you know, let it go. But see what you can do. Things are changing and, and, and I'm talking a lot about benchmarking against what other Regional Planning Councils are doing across the state. Okay. And that's. Well, they're meeting tonight and they were asking for anybody that we have who's available who could help at least listen to be a part of that conversation. I have information that was sent to me. I can forward to you, Steve, Stacey, or any of you all who want it. Actually, it came through the public. It came through the email. So it's there to me. You all can look at it. I can look at it. Yeah. Look at it and see what's, what it is. Do you know who it's from? Yes. Her name is Terry Witherall. Terry Witherall. And there's a bunch of them that are getting together that are trying to resist the same way they were working against the sand mine. And, but again, Mary, your group right there, I think they are going to be putting that asphalt. Trying to resist pumping the water. I have to say that pumping the water from Bronson may be a better option than desal. Desal actually uses a lot of water and energy for every single gallon it creates. Except that it's like, you'll see the email too, that they're talking about like the cost to every citizen, it would be like $156,000 a person in Bronson to be able to finance something like that. Well, why would Bronson be paying for Cedar Key's water? That doesn't make sense. Cedar Key won't be able to get that kind of money either. Well, I mean, if they don't have water, somebody will, they're going to have to get a grant one way or another. Right. Yeah. Interesting. Well, that's the two, the two options on that one too. And then the, the, ask the plant that you've got coming into Bronson too as a go, I think that they're. Well, they certainly put in the stormwater for it. Right. And, and they're also talking about the road coming out to DOT, out onto our state road. I mean, but DOT, the last I talked to them had not gotten a permit for them to do that. Do we look at, do we look at stormwater installations in any of the cities? Yes, we do. We had that discussion a while ago. Yeah. I couldn't remember. We, we're, we're working with them now to figure out a way to get more engaged so we'll get ahead of them early. But yeah, they are supposed to be our. I was a little concerned about how deep they dug that. They were pulling out giant chunks of lime rock. Right. And, and it's in, it's inside. They're saying inside, but now there's also talk about asphalt as well. So I don't know. Can I just ask for clarification, which project are you talking about? Bronson, the, the. I'm talking, I'm talking about Archer. No, I mean, I'm talking about Archer too. Sorry. The cement plant. Too many people. That, you're not a cement plant. No, the. The batch. The batch was within the city of Archer. And the city has not even approved it yet. It hasn't even, the city has. And they're digging this stormwater pond that is like, it's deeper than. And the road out. Yeah, that's a big, that's a big bunch of water. Yeah, we need enough. I was just going to ask about the drought situation here. Because our pond is still low. No matter how much. But anyway, I, yeah, if somebody take a look at that, you should see the pile of lime rock they pulled out. And we're, it's, it's a little concerning. Yeah. And the city has not given permits for any of that yet. And I don't know that DOT, I don't know that DOT has approved them coming out on the, on the main road either. But they're, they're going right ahead. Anyway. Any other member comments? My only thing is, what was the date again for the county commission to hear the climate action plan if citizens want to know? Yeah, August 26th. It's the last Tuesday of the month. August 26th in the evening. In the evening. It'll be a 5 p.m. I mean, it's the only item on the agenda. Oh, Madam Chair, I do have one more thing. I had a question come from a citizen over in, where are we, Alachua, about the Mill Creek sink, the buildings. Do we track at all, I know we track flooding, but do we track housing that has cracks as a result of land, you know, subsidence? Yeah. You know, being washed away. I mean, we, you know, I, I just didn't know, it's not something I thought about, but things being built on the hill, like that we have up over the Mill Creek sink, where things are floating downhill like that. I'm just wondering, do we have any records or any record keeping for cracked foundations and buildings as a result of that? I am not aware of, of that. It's kind of a repository of that kind of information. We do track sinkhole complaints and, and we document those. I, I think there's laws that if, if it's caused by sinkholes to that cracking, they're now required under law to, to put the remediation requirement into, into their, you know, public. Deed documents. Deed documents and so on. But again, if it's not reported, then I don't know where you'd get that information. I don't know either. I was just brought up that, you know, as we, we build on these higher elevations where that water is coming down, of course, that's an issue that we really hadn't talked about. Flooding, yes, but not a damage to, as a result of flooding. Well, a lot of times on the, on those hills, there's clay deposits and there's that whole shrinkage and expansion thing that causes. That would keep it from happening? No, that causes it to happen. It would cause it. It causes it to happen. So a lot of times when you build in those situations, they've learned to make foundations differently now than they used to make them to prevent that from happening. But a lot of the older buildings, you'll see that when they're built on top of old clay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, I just, you know, I know that property over the Mill Creek Sink still has a for sale sign on it. And I don't know where we have that on our acquisition list or if it's on our acquisition, if anybody is, is it on the acquisition? It is on the acquisition list. It's been there. It's been there. That's the place that we're talking about with the developer. It already has an option on it. And they're in the middle of it. On the sink, exact, itself? The sink itself is owned by the Florida Cave Association. Oh, is it? Okay. Because it was a piece. That's just a little piece. It's the property, it's all the property that's right around that, and that's the property that McTara is trying to develop into commercial. I know. I just can't, I'm amazed that the for sale sign is still there. I think it's because he only has an option on it until he gets all this stuff approved. Is that the way it is? Okay, good. That's my guess. Mm-hmm. I don't know for sure. There may be a small, I think it's a five-acre or ten-acre track that's still for sale, but the price tag is way beyond the appraisal. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. All right. Well, we don't have anything else on the agenda that we can really talk about with our other members, so for that, we'll adjourn, but I will ask staff to look for another date sometime in late August or September, and we can meet again so we can get some business done before the October meeting. Thank you.