it is what's today's date december 2nd my son's getting married on friday a little bit uh a little bit yeah i'm a little distracted about that but i'm really excited we already have yep they brought us the first one and um he's marrying an amazing woman who um just i feel like we won the lottery so with that though it is december 2nd and i would go ahead and call this special meeting to order the first item is the approval of the agenda before yeah before we do that um i know that item three is not time sensitive and there's a couple of sappers that we would ask that we can move that off is that okay if the board really wants us to present it we're able to do that but the staff member who was responsible for this and frankly has a lot of the first-hand knowledge of you know different examples and circumstances to be able to impart that knowledge um i had an issue that she could not be here today and since it isn't time sensitive we would like to move that if that is okay with the board the next policy meeting is that okay to make her the motion uh yeah i was just checking to see if there's anybody here that might be interested development review but it doesn't look like it so all right i mean there's a lot of people here who are interested in development i didn't see any like hands waving yeah there's no place not sitting in the audience it's a riveting subject all right so move of the agenda moving item three to january or the next policy meeting the next appropriate second we're okay with that all right any further discussion to the motion any public discussion to the motion say none back to the board all those favor say aye all right any opposed that motion is unanimous okay great we also have um stacy merritt partnership for strong families and uh uh pastor bishop chris stokes for the willie may soaks center who will um give us some input once we are concluded with the staff presentation for number one and um and they're on zoom right they have to be on zoom for first yeah and we'll um we'll give them that opportunity if they would like to participate so with that first item is the food assistance update the recommended action is to hear the update and provide additional direction and with that i see assistant manager missy daniels come out missy you're recognized welcome thank you good afternoon commissioners um i'm gonna give you the update of where we are with this but i have to shout out to everybody over here that's been working on it we've had a team working on it putting hours into this it was not as easy as here's a check i'll just tell you so questions we have them here to answer so the motion was to give a hundred thousand to bread of the mighty that was actually a little bit easier part and the other was to give a hundred thousand to the farmers markets and the family resource centers for fresh food fresh fruits and vegetables so we have given the po to bread of the mighty i know patrick is here there are some holdups with some of the boxes coming in and they've delivered some of them but he can tell you where they are with that it's a nationwide issue because it was a nationwide problem so i think he can update you on where they are with that a little bit so i'll move on to the farmers markets and and fresh produce so we had two farmers markets that were able to work with voucher programs to help food insecure growth street and high springs and what we did with them when bailey worked really hard talking to all of them and seeing who could help us we said how much can you spend because they don't really spend the as much as we were able to give them in any amount of time so growth street said they could probably handle five thousand and high springs said a thousand at this point growth street spent about 250 on about 10 people who got the vouchers and got fresh food fruits and produce from frog song and probably some other vendors and then high springs has expended about 160 but they you know they don't have a farmer's market every day so that's just what they've been able to do so far so we continue to let them spend that and that's we issued those po's for that amount jessica was able to we had tried a few different places but she was able to get talk with frog song one of the problems with the resource centers was a lot of them needed delivery to pick up the fresh fruits and vegetables and frog song was able to meet delivery requirements within two days of an order and frog song is a local farm frog song is a local farm and they're also sourcing from other local farms now this time of year the food shed goes out a little bit beyond alachua county borders because you can't get what you need completely right here but they are able to they partner with other farms if they don't have it so they're able to meet the need and deliver the food so that's been a really good partnership so we at this point have partnered with frog song to deliver to them and what we did is we started with so we had about 94 000 left after the farmers markets so we started with 50 000 split between the family resource centers partly because of one issue i want to talk to you about the refrigeration part of the motion to help resource centers and partly to see make sure this works so we don't have it all out there is it and it it is so far they've all ordered we've um two of them have ordered twice the rest have only ordered once but they've ordered about 4 450 pounds of food so far that they've had delivered wow so it's been a lot um and that's been about a little over 18 000 i think is how much has been spent out of that 50. so basically we said you all have eight thousand three hundred and thirty three dollars and 33 cents to spend right this minute and we'll draw down on that and then see where we are some of them spent a little over four thousand in their first order like um swag family resource center was one so they'll hit that pretty quickly we still have the rest of the money and we want to talk about timing with that as well was the um increase like for slag due to thanksgiving do you suppose or were they looking to get fresh foods for thanksgiving yeah so we're not really sure because a lot of them were of course giving out their food last week so we think it may have been um the one yeah so one community at pleasant street did about 3 400 in their first order but only about 800 they were the ones with the second order right so for the second order so it could have thanksgiving could have had a lot to do with it so mrs these are resource centers making orders to frog song these are the six family resource centers that also partner or part of the children's trust yep partners and they make an order to frog song and they fill out their order form and frog song takes about within two days within two days um and i think that's what it's been so far that they've been able to meet that because we're afraid we might overwhelm them a little bit you conclude mary yeah i conclude yeah commissioner president yeah i'll just say i mean i think no matter who i mean i'm really glad that frog song could do it i think you know that i think part of the reason i mean i'm really really excited that we're sourcing local and i'm really grateful that frog song stepped up because i think one of the things to realize is like you know we were trying to send in a crisis response same thing that hatrick's facing with like you know at a time when everyone had already planned their crops everyone already already has their customer base already was you know they plan to grow what they're going to sell so to have this like massive increase in demand all of a sudden and you know for a small farm can be a pretty challenging thing to do so i think the way that they've stepped up to try to fill that gap is good i know um you know it's also challenging because the resource centers weren't expecting it aren't expecting it either and the people in the community you know may or may not you know they like it's only what the farms kind of have at the time so it's like getting used to like the different vegetables and things like that so i'm sure there's been a lot of like challenging things with the process but i'm just really grateful that everyone worked so hard and worked so well together to figure it out and to really focus this effort as a way to build local economy and support our local farms as well as doing the food security component because i think that ultimately the work that we're trying to do with the food hub and the work we're trying to do with our small farms it sort of all builds on itself right and it gives us an opportunity to begin to move that needle forward and i think had we been in a planning phase rather than a you know emergency response phase i think we would have probably had a lot of other small farms step up to the to the plate but yeah yeah it's a big ask and they've stepped up um so we have a couple of questions for you but one thing i want to mention is um especially with the farmers market so that part of your motion said to that to the farmers markets for their snap voucher programs because they already have a program set up where they get vouchers then they go back from the farms and the farms turn in the vouchers to get paid at the end of the market um with all of the changes to snap and the federal government saying that if a state and florida didn't but if a state helped snap recipients while the government was closed and they weren't getting snapped they had to take the money back and it's oh really it's hard now florida wasn't part of that but as part of that they've issued a notice to all authorized snap retailers that they can't treat snap recipients any differently than the general public unless it's money coming from the usda so the snap money is different you qualify for snap right but your money is not so and we were trying to make sure we met the snap requirement of that by making of the motion snap eligible we need to take that out yeah that's what we're just saying yeah i was just going to make within that piece probably needs to be amended and we're only there they have their own um checklist and it's really food insecure people who need assistance okay so we will do a motion in a minute after what else did you need because i was going to say i think we kind of already made that decision in the interim during the holiday when when the board was gone that we just needed to do that to effectuate the motion um but we we would like the board to basically bless that decision that we've that we've made to move forward okay so we aren't requiring that for any of the resource centers even though they're not technically authorized retail retail authorized retailers i think is a term um but especially for the farmers markets they are making sure they're electric honey residents so basically anybody can access that food as long as they have a need that's eight well i don't know how you how you they're talking about and bailey is our farmers market expert so she can come and talk to you but it's people going up who are getting the vouchers anyway and i don't know if the snap has already started running at them if they're doing the snap so if you want some more information bailey can tell you the main people that utilize that that voucher and token system are people who are food insecure and have an understanding of the system right but with the changes coming up to snap i'm wondering if we need to broaden it to folks that maybe you know yeah that's what we're doing yeah i just wanted to make sure that that that that you know yeah that we're figuring out how to do that and bread of the mighty you already heard they don't ask right when they hand out boxes and the resource centers get some information but we have different um a different form now that they're all using we use their forms and i think satori might be able to tell you a little bit about what's on that form if you want to know what they're checking off um so the questions that we had was refrigeration was part of the motion if any of them needed it and at first a couple did but then now only one said they could really even have room for it the willie may stokes community center and he sent us a picture of a fridge like the kind you see where you go grab a coke out of that kind of thing you know with the double doors um it's about 1700 so we wanted to make sure that was the intention of that part of the motion and we will take that money and help with that and take that off the top and then divide the rest between the resource centers yeah i'm okay with that yeah i mean i think that's exactly what i meant yeah yeah because if they don't have refrigeration then it's food waste and we don't want that right see how they're having to order having to do just in time yeah from my perspective i don't i don't think we should be doing lots of capital um but this is the minimus 1700 and it it actually and that was just one he found we can we're not even sure if we can use get from them but i would say that's probably a rough that's about it for a double door that's about it yeah they're between 15 and 20 200. for what they're trying to use it for there's also the double door that has the shelf in it that pulls out and then a freezer in the bottom no no this is a big commercial oh you're talking about a huge like we have out at uh yeah yeah okay i see okay okay industrials okay yeah that's wait what else missy um so to set up the program we had a december 31st deadline because you know it was kind of snaps government shutdown snaps been taken away let's put a parameter on it so we could watch how the money went and get our receipts back but as you're going to hear in a minute that's not going to work for bread of the mighty because of the backlog and getting their boxes and their how they're doing it is they're buying and then giving us a receipt and said we need to be reimbursed for this many boxes um just that's not even really part of your motion but just to make sure you're comfortable you want to continue spending the money even though snap is back in some form or fashion you gave two hundred thousand we will continue handing it out until it's spent i certainly believe that to be the case because a lot of folks were already behind and this will allow them to have that extra food security until you know they get a little bit caught back which isn't going to help a whole lot but it'll help some i guess can we hear from patrick about what the holdup is with the boxes and then maybe if there's an alternative that we could just not have it be tied to the boxes so you could purchase food through your warehouse all your items um i'm good i was going to ask about the joint meeting update if this is the kind of information you wanted but i think the city put it on that agenda no i put it on there because the city had a list of things that um that i thought uh from previous discussions our board i thought it would be helpful if we could give an update of what happened and the additional things that our staff is working on with regard to food systems and mayor ward says are you asking us for money and i said no this is not a we're telling you because we want you to match or we're telling you because there's a need in our community and then if your staff thinks that there's things that you all can do and we can come together that's what this meeting's for so he said okay that sounds great let's do that so that's why that was added to the agenda because i know um i've had discussions you've had discussions you've had discussions with commissioner duncan walker and other commissioners about food systems and so i thought it's just a good chance for us to say what we're working on long term yeah it's not just food assistance i think they're really looking for like the food hub and that like the overall like they're interested in kind of our overall like food systems like what we do i i'll say this that i one of the conversations i've had with two different commissioners two were about the food hub interested in like what that's about and how that to tie to like retail grocery or things that are going on with cra conversations and and and just general access and then there was also an interest in understanding about what if anything we and or cut islands um we and or um extension are doing around like urban gardening and um supporting individual and community gardens and things like that so we had a pretty good conversation but they they were like well we'd love an update from the staff on what you all are working on so everything i think there could be some like you said we're not asking for funding but i think there is some earmarked money set aside in the cra and other spots that are related to the ideas of food systems and they have a community gardening program so there's some opportunities i think for synergy okay all right that that was the purpose of adding that to the agenda was um this is a priority of this board it's a priority of a number of their commissioners individually it's not a specific ask for the city it's an update and then hopefully an opportunity for us to see where we can work together well you will have your tourism and economic development with the food system staff css staff both of which have worked tremendously hard on this i'll give them another shout out and they're here if you have any questions okay great all right so let's recognize mr dot thank you for being here if you could give us a debrief of what the heck has happened since we met last thank you afternoon everybody patrick dot bread of the mighty food bank um so as missy had um alluded to uh we finalized the purchase order on november 20th was the date that it came to us so we made our first purchase uh the following day on the 21st um unfortunately didn't have all of the products available at that time so we purchased about a half load um it was about 42 000 that equates about 44 000 pounds of food but makes up about half of the products that we had listed in those emergency boxes um yesterday we were able to reach back out to one of the suppliers and make the final purchase um and it looks like it should be um we're hoping the end of next week we'll have all the product in the warehouse um and then as soon as it's in i mean we're we've been purchasing food and boxing it up using other revenue streams um it generally doesn't take more than 24 hours by the time we get the product in to box it up and get it back out so we'll be able to move quickly but i would hope that we could extend that december 31st deadline um it won't take much time especially with the holidays we want to make sure we're getting the product out as quickly as possible and we will have purchased it all by next week it's all been purchased at this point yeah yeah okay or you will receive it all just a matter of distributing now it needs the freight needs to arrive um we're hoping by the end of next week we'll have all the product i think half of it's scheduled to be in the warehouse by monday the 8th and then we're hoping by the end of the week that second order will come in they're averaging somewhere around five to seven business days turn around so that's that's being cautious but i think once we do that we generally have anywhere from 12 to 15 mobile distributions probably over half of them are happening in alachua county every week and so we'll have the ability to then go ahead and deploy and if we need to stand up any additional distributions that we don't currently have scheduled using our staff and volunteers we can do that as well um and so i know having worked with the staff and kudos to them because it was a heavy lift for a little while um making sure we were on the same page um once we have the product in i'll be able to share where those distribution sites will be um to you all and make sure that you you know where they're going to be happening and if you want to join us we'd love for you to join us at one of those distributions as well are the resource centers getting boxes so we finalized the children's trust contract yesterday and submitted the reimbursement and i think that check will be cut tomorrow we're able to use product that was already purchased for to meet that contract with them and so those boxes should be prepared by the end of this week we plan to reach out to the resource centers sometime this week and meet with all of them to discuss the program and how they'll be able to order the boxes but we'll go ahead and ultimately what we're doing is depositing the funds it's a initial um installment of twenty thousand dollars from the children's trust into each of the resource centers accounts and they can draw down based on what capacity to order boxes they see fit at the time but we'll have them available around the clock to make just-in-time deliveries to them amazingly great do you have anything okay just that any questions yeah i have a question i have a question regarding the farms you know and how they were engaged we're using um frog song right there are others farms what happened that we're using one most of them couldn't that's what i'm thinking yeah the majority of them couldn't meet the demand the volume and the delivery deadlines given that it's like in the middle of their season i see you know what i mean like it's not they don't play an extra right now okay and they are involving other farms where they can they buy other farms okay is partnering with other farms wall farm aggregator we found one other place that could handle this much and it was i think it was out of the county even in stark and it was more of a retailer and they couldn't deliver and the resources needed it to deliver that's where i get stuff from period okay so they were the ones that could deliver and they are partnering so there are some large commercial farms in northern alachua and i didn't know if we'd engage with them or not they're truck farmers i know they carry stuff out of state but i also know they have big crops and i didn't know if we engage with those people at all yes so what who we engaged with right now i mean we can are people who have multiple options and not single large crop oh i see so they can get variety in their box of what's in season now okay and not just all of i see i've been growing okay that worked we can certainly change that up and that if you don't mind mr chair i wanted to mention thought about it when patrick was talking we did ask him to look at the other food banks besides the resource centers for his work with the money from the county because of the children's trust giving the money for the resources so we did ask for that and um also i need to say thank you to communications and procurement they've really worked hard on this as well so i know we have a motion before we get to that can we hear from uh stacy merit with the resource center okay so um and the communication folks if miss merit partnership for strong families is online if we can open up the mic and give her um a few minutes to just give us an update and communicate to us yeah um yes i appreciate it thank you i are you able to hear me okay we are yeah you you recognize thank you i don't have a visual for some reason but um i was um really just wanted to thank the county and thank you for um kind of having the foresight to to think about this crisis and have some funds put aside in advance um i think our experience um i know we've only at this point worked with frog song but we had a a great experience i think both of my managers you know the ordering process and delivery it was some of the most efficient you know distributions that we've had so they were very appreciative of that um the food was very high quality we have some great pictures that we can share if i i was out last week so i don't know if those got shared but some great pictures that we can share as well okay that's very excellent thank you for helping feed our community we really appreciate you yeah and we we have a couple more events planned in december i think we did spend kind of about half of what we we had on that one i heard the question earlier about um the spending if we may need to be a little more a little more careful i think they were um as they were making those orders they were conscious of the holiday and and items that might be used for that but we served about a hundred at each event so i think that the cost also was related to that i think there were maybe maybe every family that came through got about five different um four or five different items and it was a hundred families that we served that's great okay any questions for ms barrett yeah i just want to say thank you i know that this you know us choosing to use the resource centers was strategic because they are these central spots in our community that are providing these services but i also know it meant that they got a task sort of an unfunded mandate to now distribute this food so i just wanted to say a big thank you to the resource center managers and their staff for helping us make a difference in the community getting this food out into the communities and for being willing to work with us on the fly to try to come up with solutions and to part of the mighty and a prox song for stepping up and helping us figure this out quickly in the farmers markets thank you commissioner alford yeah um how was the fresh food um uh what was the enthusiasm level for the fresh food when you did the distribution were folks pretty happy to get it now i have to admit that i was not on site but i would say yes based on feedback from the staff they they were very excited and i think anytime that i've been at a distribution and the fresh food is there that is the reaction um i mean they're always pretty excited and again i think they were items for the most part they were items that they were familiar with um and that they would be able to use as part of a meal but they also came with recipe cards if we requested them and i thought that was a great a great idea as well so that they could learn how to prep it if they didn't know how already who who did the recipe cards um frog song yeah they do that very good thank you thank you so much good stuff okay thank you miss ferrett all right so commissioner do we have a motion i don't think he's on okay yep uh is bishop spokes on no they were going to tell me if he got on okay okay well i just had a um a motion to amend our original motion to uh oh there he is bishop hey good afternoon everybody i apologize i had a big accident last night and and i have a vehicle and yeah so yeah your your signal is a little bad um we're having trouble catching all your words okay so i um i was involved in a an accident last night and um i um so i had to be cut out of our my vehicle so i'm um i'm kind of still kind of groggy but um what should all can it so um yeah pastor stokes bishop stokes we're having trouble hearing you but we will invite you to come if you are able participate in our joint meeting on the 10th of december and you can give us a little update if that's okay and you rest up yeah i hope that you're okay that's fine okay doing our prayers yeah all right thank you thank you all right all right let's bring it back to the board okay i was just gonna hello we got you so i i don't know if you can still hear me but i did provide the information uh i said for the uh for the cooler yeah yeah we've got that but if not then i'll i'll look okay yeah we'll take care and tomorrow is our first day with our distribution okay okay very good thank you bishop stokes all right let's bring you back to the board uh anna you're right yes okay can i i would like to move that we amend our previous motion um to um say that we are able to provide a fresh food voucher program for persons experiencing food insecurity instead of just snap eligible that we do authorize the use of the funds for coolers for any of the resource centers that wish to use them commercial like double door type coolers um that we expand the timing of the expenditure of the funds um so that folks can expend the total dollar amount we have available um and i think that was it yes is that what you needed missy yep do i hear a second to the motion second got motion two seconds all right let's open it up to the public um kelly welcome thank you for being here you recognize thank you thank you for working on this uh i worked a um i helped set up and distributed a food share just pre-thanksgiving and i want to say that it was amazing it was 96 people came through and um i would say since since the days where of mount pleasant's weekly food share shutting down and all we were getting was takis and soda this one was really a huge amount of quality stuff i mean it was real nutrition so i didn't feel embarrassed handing it out so you've made you've made the best use of a crisis thank you thank you next speaker to the motion mohammed i'm back to you just want to listen in writing rather how much your quantity is interested in my motion i mean so we're talking to the motion on the floor we'll have an opportunity for public comment in a minute are you speaking to the motion no no have a seat anyone else okay let's bring it back to the motion so um um authorize coolers expand timing what was the first thing that to change the wording so it's not just snap but all right and then to clarify the wording so that it's not in violation of any federal or state guidelines um on the coolers is there a dollar amount like that we're talking if you it might be i mean i guess i was threshold maybe but i would kind of aim a little bit i guess i'd say five thousand or less yeah i think you know because they're about two thousand each so that would give them a chance to buy two if they need them the double doors which should hold a fair amount of produce are the two seconders okay with that absolutely okay all right all right so we've got a motion two seconds and a clarifying any other discussion to this board thank you for the motion commissioner and um i think the comment we heard from collie i've heard that throughout the community so i appreciate you kind of taking the lead on that of you know not just food but local food if possible and fresh food so all right all those in favor say aye aye any opposed that motion is unanimous okay thank you mr chair if i could just echo missy's thanks to staff because when they got the motion it was oh my gosh we have a limited amount of time this is a lot and how is we going to accomplish this and they pulled together a large group of them from multiple departments and really made a huge impact and so they worked very hard to get that done and so i'm going to add very grateful yeah in addition to acting on the county's motion our staff actually leaned in heavily on the children's trust motion and helped helped with the communication to the resource centers which the trust has already been working with on you know different items and so it wasn't just an interdepartmental county effort it was a interdepartmental and inter institutional effort with both the trust and uh presumably the city with brother the mighty so thank you to our staff for really really really stepping up and my i my thoughts on putting this on the joint meeting was you know we we have a long-term goal here um that is being led by commissioner prisley and often um commissioner alfred because she posts a lot about fresh food that that is being prepared um but i feel like this uh emergency has given us kind of a jump start and are there other local farms in addition to frog song and if if they we had kind of a planning process in place that they could step up and i think that was really the intent and it's my hopes that we can kind of not only debrief with the city in a week on this is what we did we did the best we could but this is what we're doing with our the goal of um achieving what we're adding into our comp plan to the ear process which is food security at a local level so anyways thank you all for all the work did you add anything yeah i mean i guess i guess i want to say one yes a huge thank you to the staff i think you know i think this was actually i know it was it was a much more rushed situation than is normal and that i so i especially appreciate everyone's ability and willingness to put in extra hours and time and sort of you know scurry to get things done but i i was really impressed with the level of collaboration across departments because i think like ultimately that's what makes our county work the best is when you know the people in css are talking to people in economic development are talking to the people in you know procurement and the attorney's office and everyone's working together towards the goal of achieving the programmatic ideals um versus like okay waiting for me to waiting for my box to check or waiting for my you know and so it was just really impressive to see how integrated everybody was and and working hard to make this happen and i heard that from the community um as well like while they were trying to work through this and work with you all to figure out what we were doing um so just thank you to you all and yeah i mean i think the food hub you know pilot is going to be another another one of those it's going to be i mean it won't be as scurried but i think it is going to be you know an interesting challenge because we're trying to do it in the middle of the season when the farmers have already planned their crops you know normally large-scale production and distribution is done with a planning process so you plan the crops you're going to plant you contract with those farmers to grow it you know they then deliver it on a timeline and you work that way you know in in in this instance and in the instance i think of the food hub pilot coming up we're expecting it to kind of happen in situ like during the season and so i you know i'm i'm interested and excited to see what comes of that but i also feel a little bit you know not worried but just sort of like i i just think we need to keep in mind that that pilot is happening at a time that's like literally it's like you get it you're doing it and then you know what i mean you said in in situ during the season like during the season like yeah like in in real time just like you know it's like happening in the site in the system during the cycle of the system versus taking it giving the whoever's the pilot it ends up being you know the chance to like plan it and put a structure together for then like you know the next season when things would be yeah yeah so i i hear the concern but from my perspective the ear is for seven years so i'm not talking about the ear i'm talking about the food hub pilot right the food hub pilot but that's but that's pushed by by kind of the five years seven year yeah so i i you know we're not gonna get it all right the first year it may take two or three or four but i think we have we're on the right track yeah i think so too and i think no matter what i mean i think what we've seen is that we're pushing not just the values of food and fresh and healthy but local economy and fair and justice like you know frogsong pays fair wages they provide benefits to their employees like they're taking care of the people in the food system so that the people in the food system aren't experiencing exploitation and then being the very people we have to help with food assistance programs right and that's the idea is that the system that we're building doesn't replicate the existing food system like we're not just trying to create a new alachua county version of a global food system we're trying to change the narrative of a food system to be one where everyone is treated with fairness and everyone has access to healthy and nutritious food and i think that this is a model for that so i'm really really excited that we're leading the way here the jail system too and the jail too are we have we incorporated that so the jail is one of the potential institutional partners the challenge i'll say this with the jail is and with the university of florida um is that they're not self-ops they contract their food service with a national provider right who comes in and does the food and those people have a contract that they have and so you know if it's not in the letter of their contract then they don't necessarily have to do it first of all and oftentimes they're purchasing at a global scale with a menu that they do maybe even nationally you know and so shifting their procurement strategies can be really challenging but i'm hopeful that with our team and our consultants that they would be able to at least identify one or two fresh items that they could shift on their menuing that would allow them to pilot the idea of instead of just having all of this sort of commodity food that's coming in from their national suppliers that they could i just didn't know if what's happening nationally with with uh monies that are being allocated for food that would impact what's happening at the jail now we're in charge of what's i guess or we're overseeing what's happening at grace and saint francis house to a certain extent but i just didn't know you know if there was some way that we could impact i mean we're talking about healthy food for everybody well we've so the jail is on i mean i the first one of the first motions i made that and you all approved was for us to adopt the good food purchasing that's why i was asking and that is local food that's nutrition that's food justice that's climate impacts for our food it's a number of values that are have a set of expectations around those values and then benchmarks that you try to meet and the jail has gone through their audit you know of course their audit didn't go very well but you know but it gives them a baseline and a place to start from and i think now the challenge is and we hit covet then and then there was all these other pieces but i think the challenge now is to have a values-based supplier i.e a food hub that can buy from the local farmers who meet those values that we're talking about and provide that into the system and then also to make sure that we have the funding associated with that food because i think people have this expectation that somehow food is going to be this thing that like still is cheap right but the reason that food is so cheap is because we're externalizing all those costs we're externalizing them to our health we're externalizing to the environment and we're externalizing them to exploitation of the workers and so when we reintegrate those values of environmental sustainability health and nutrition and justice in the food system we have to reintegrate the costs associated with them too you know what i mean and so that can be a challenging conversation to have because everybody still wants their 10-cent bananas you know but they also want they want everything to be sustainable and organic and they want people to be treated fairly and you can't have both things and we're still realizing those costs we're just realizing them in other ways we're paying them you know at the hospital we're paying them in environmental cleanups we're paying them in the things that we're having do we contract with this food distribution or does the the sheriff do that the sheriff hosts the food contract right now i wanted it back i think i also i didn't win that fight but i i would love for us to control it but right now the sheriff controls the food um and the commissary um for the jail but but they you know they did they did participate i mean they did participate in the good food purchasing program audit and i think they are interested and willing to have conversations about how to improve on what they're doing i think we just have to we just need some of the pieces in the system to be able to do it because you've got the farmers and you've got the end game of like food that you're serving to people but the middle of the system isn't really built to support those small farmers which is what that food hub that we're working on is all about it's about building that middle kind of behind the scenes that gets the food from the farmers to our food service and our institutions but does so with those values we're talking about integrated versus just well and food is medicine you know trying to get those people out and healthy and moving healthily exactly and the food hub can do that too they can actually work one of the resource centers already has a program where they're working with uf health on referrals for people who have heart disease diabetes those sorts of things and getting them it's the one community resource center getting them fresh nutritious food and so some of the fresh fruits and vegetables that we provided i think went the ones that khali was talking about went to individuals who have a direct referral from their clinician saying you need to eat more healthy food in order to reduce your blood sugar or reduce your heart disease risk so it's pretty cool to see like we're starting we're starting yeah we're getting there it's baby steps in the right direction and shauna bailey have been amazing and jessica have been amazing getting that moving so okay good did you have anything to add no all right let's move on to the next item which is the sb 1730 live local act recommended action is to hear staff presentation and to provide policy direction welcome oh commissioners chair angeline jacobs um planner in growth management um let me pull up our so in 2025 the legislation did an update to the live local act um some of the requirements in that act we will be um adjusting in our code and then there's an option um for us to make some decisions while i'm here today for direction so just as a little background um last year in september uh the board um adopted standards for the live local act in compliance with the previous ordinance um or the previous statute and that was ordinance 2024-07 and so that um just as a reminder required administrative approval for multifamily or mixed-use development and commercial industrial and mixed-use zoning districts um it required a 40 of those residential units to be rented at 120 ami for 30 years and then maximum density at 24 dwelling units an acre and we and then the board decided the maximum height would be at 65 feet and then additionally the live local act plus was approved um creating that voluntary density um incentive um so that if a developer wanted to do 48 or 72 dwelling units per acre they'd have to adjust some of those units to 80 to 50 percent of ami targets um and then next so the what's going to be required is we're going to be revising land use definitions um for mixed-use residential plan developments commercial industrial industrial to track what the statute requires and then there's also an additional tracking reporting of lla projects to the state will be starting in 2026 so we'll keep an eye on those in our community um so this is just a general um definitions that was provided in that statute that we are going to manage when we presented this last uh last year we had already kind of made the um i guess the determination that plan developments in that mixed-use center would apply in this case and the statute just clarified that very you know so we were already kind of in that um perspective with um with our ordinance um the optional um part of 1730 has to do with the local government being able to consider something for religious institutions to develop affordable housing on their property if they provided a minimum of 10 percent of the units affordable whether that's rents or mortgages not exceeding 120 percent of ami um yes does that mean they would have to build a minimum of 10 units so yes it would just depend on how many units they were planning to one on town or 10 i mean if it's 10 percent they would have one then that one would probably need to be i see so there would have to be one of of with a minimum of okay yeah so if they built two they got to build one at least yeah okay just wanted to clarify what that meant yeah so i wanted to just let you know that the um the joint so we had a joint a hack meeting our a hack and the city of gainesville a hack met and and this was brought up and i think there was general interest um from everybody in seeing this happen the the the thing that folks like about it is it's may approve and a minimum of and so we can actually set higher standards like we can say that it has to be 50 or you know and we could say it has to be a 50 ami like we have the flexibility if we provide this opportunity for churches and they do have to be on a contiguous parcel to their place of worship that is correct um so they can't just go out and speculate and buy new property to build affordable housing has to be a property they already own and use for religious purposes but um but i think you know there's an opportunity for us to set some decent thresholds and um is they going to bring us some recommendations so i think actually what i was going to ask today is if we could maybe ask that the when we have the next joint a hack that that be a workshop and that we invite the churches to participate and have a conversation about it because i think that the city is an interest in it too and i think having a unified program that is the same across the board so it's easy to communicate and that churches understand what is needed and necessary is important versus us trying to have two separate things running and i know we have a joint meeting coming up like we had talked about having another joint meeting in the new year so perhaps we could just have a workshop there and invite pastors of the um i have no objection to that i think it's great yeah it's a great idea that way we everybody agree yeah yeah that'll make this meeting easy yeah yeah i think yeah exactly what you just said right y'all bring us the recommendation after you've done the community involvement with the pastors and let's do it yeah i love that have we talked about schools at all there's a lot of school property too that's left over even after playgrounds right um so yeah so it's jam sorry we kind of interrupted no you're fine and you're on the same wavelength um for sure but um one of the one of the things that staff was talking about and the fact that it is so broad and there's you know flexibility and discretion is that even though this focuses on religious institutions we wanted to consider if there needed to be a broader reach right there's potential for civic organizations folks that are interested in you know our community and non-profits um so that was another aspect that we were trying to bring forward as a as a flexible point of view if that's something that you'd want to direct staff to to evaluate because right now in our in our in our land development codes in that section there we couple religious institutions in with civic organizations so um we certainly don't have to follow that approach with this particular option but that is something that we wanted to have you all consider um and these are just some of the other policy framework considerations you know if you wanted to work in in the workshop and discuss it with the faith-based organizations we certainly can do that as well but i wanted to kind of bring up some of the um approaches that we were considering um whether we wanted to utilize the live local act and have it administratively approved or if we needed to go through a different approval process through development review or something of that nature um and so that these were some of the other areas we were considering like targeted areas whether it's in the urban cluster proximity to transportation if we wanted to exclude certain areas within live local obviously they have that preemption for commercial industrial zones but do we want to have any limits on that um there was some discussion about fair housing acts and religious organization exemption if they're mission-driven to produce the affordable housing um commissioner alford and i have a question on this slide and then commissioner presia yeah i guess you know in terms of excluding specific zoning districts you know i think of other places that um housing might be make sense to be attached and that might be um health care for instance that's been a place where in other cities they have um included housing as an option and another is uh remaking um spaces that have changed like um like i guess the oak small would be considered a uh commercial space and so i've seen some cities have taken the whole centers of their malls out and turn those into apartment buildings was shopping all around the outside you know i'm not that i expect that to happen but i don't want to get in the way of something like that happening in order to make it more you know to allow that kind of thing so i i don't know what we would want to exclude i in every single thing that i think about excluding i can think of an exception but on the other hand i assume most of them would come back to us so if something was super crazy we would see it right well that's a decision point i mean you could i mean the way the statute is right now you don't have to do anything and someone can come in on a case-by-case basis if they promote 120 ami and 10 of their units so it's already there it's just whether or not you want to have that discretion and you certainly can provide it if you prefer not to have well i guess i'm more want to make it not necessarily easy for them but i want it to be um i want to make it so that it's recognized that it's possible right because i'm not sure that you know people are used to thinking out of the box when it comes to you know re-urbanizing or changing the urban nature of a project or whatever and or increasing the density or doing any of those things um i know it makes a lot of sense for churches because a lot of times churches are already in an area that is um residential in nature but a lot of these other places aren't but they often are places that need housing you know where there's a housing need where there's jobs so i i just i don't know i won't hear whatever other people think but okay okay um i guess i i'm all for opening it up to other civic organizations for sure i mean i feel like you know just because you're religious doesn't mean you're the only organization that cares about community or would want to use land that's technically off the tax rolls right to be able to build affordable housing and get that so i i mean i i feel like that's a great idea and i love the thought like to be thoughtful and expansive to start so that we're not you know trickling in ideas as they go um i do think that i'd like to get ahead of this you'd be yes in god's backyard thing so that we have a set of standards because i do think the standards they have are pretty low bar in terms of what we want and what we're expecting of developers with our with our sales tax dollars and what we have written into our affordable housing plan like you know we have much higher bars and so i think holding at least to those bars you know the 50 ami bar and and the the levels that we're expecting folks to um the number of units that we're expecting folks to create i would hope that we could get that done more quickly since this is like out there in the universe and but i do would love it if staff would also bring back sort of how we might incorporate you know other government entities like schools um and civic organizations to be able to do something similar and how we would work through that from a land development perspective for sure um i also do think that it makes a lot of sense i mean i hear you on the like where it's put but i do think it makes sense i mean that's the other thing that we see and um and i'm looking at claudia because she could totally tell me where i'm wrong but you know when you look at like affordable housing money at the state and our money through that we always like we score it based on what it's in proximity to like we want it to be in proximity to jobs and we want to be in proximity to health care and transportation and the things people need so that they're not in isolation and then they don't have the money to afford to for transportation or where we're dealing with this thing with ada transportation right now so i think having targeted area makes a lot of sense where we're trying to target denser development and where we have those amenities and support systems available to people um i'm not sure that i understand the bottom completely but it definitely oh i see what you're saying like i definitely think the housing would have to be opened it you mean like if it's only members of their church that could live there yeah yes yes yeah so that was a concern so mr chair i do just want to sort of step back and say you know one of the reasons we're bringing this is that sort of anybody can walk in the door today and request what we're trying to do to some degree is protect the board right from potentially making arbitrary decisions around a religious organization that puts the board in all kinds of bad places and so there's really two routes you can go you can say nope we don't want to allow that at all and we just sort of preempt it and then we kind of know at the beginning and i don't the reason we're here is i don't think that's where this board has been we've clearly shown a desire to provide more places for affordable housing rather than fewer and so i think that's that's kind of the reason that we're here is to set some standards so that when somebody wants to do this exactly that there's a an established thing for them to do and that's where they kind of come in and then go through whether that's an administrative review process or it's a regular development review process that comes to the board whatever it is so i think the goal would be to set a pretty sort of standard um policy in place about the affordability and then we would treat it essentially as as a development plan that's the idea so that there wouldn't be crazy things coming to you where it's like somebody that wants to do something sort of out of the like completely out of the ordinary just be housing on a church property um and i think that's kind of what our like they wouldn't want to build student housing and have tax breaks of no ad valorem under the local act exactly like like that like not that yeah exactly although that has happened in the past where some of the there was some religious housing for churches on university avenue when i was a kid student yeah mr chair i'll be clear that i don't i don't want to wrap up what gets tossed in with the live local affordable housing tax break well it's not really what we're talking about today i mean our goal is to approach this from and we've had churches who have been interested in doing this in the past so it was really to sort of look at providing additional places where people can provide that community benefit and that's what i mean i think we just have to make sure it provides that community benefit that it is open to all that it is about an income level that it is close to amenities that it's not just sort of like so i do think we have some work to do on that front um on the sort of fair housing front because there are there there are some speech issues related to that and what the things that we can regulate that go along with churches um so we just need to make sure that that's a conversation we have with our attorney's office as we move forward um but i i do think um you know sort of we need to recognize that that's a that's a thing that's out there um and just address it on the front end i think yes i i remember when i first came on the board we were talking about the krishna community uh trying to set something up out there for elder population you know that people who are aging within the community and so that's the way i would see this one you know that church members who are aging within the community of the church would have access to that that um i i know the ignite center here in town uh also provides housing i don't know how that's set up in the city um but there is you know there is dormitory style housing in connection with that church so i don't know um how that is set up or if there was anything that would make it harder for us to do that giving the church the the ability to house their own old elder folks you know um the same way with the schools we have a lot of young teachers who cannot really afford to live in this community if if the school set up housing then for their staff you know set up i i have worked on campuses like that where it was part of my pay you know the housing that was supplied now um it seems to me that there would be ways to to restrict it to the business or the entity that was related to the housing uh i don't know that that should be a problem you know it shouldn't be but i i think that's it mr chair thank you mr chester thank you mr chair i think that uh just thinking back uh when reverend wright was the minister and was alive uh they did gardenia apartments and it's been around a long time and i think the church is still over it unless it has changed and so i didn't know that they saw that need yeah they saw that need years ago and that's what they did so so i think that we're going in the right direction here uh but i know that some folks or some churches have had issues in the past with the government so i think that that's an issue to probably look at to see what what do you mean we'll block block them from actually doing developments right and stuff so i mean that's the other thing church versus state you know that kind of stuff so i don't know what the laws are but i know they did it but they they did it through corporations i mean well i think if we have the conversations with a hack and get some ideas about what these sort of targeted areas levels and those recommendations and then we have that workshop with the joint meeting with the churches to say like here's what we're thinking and you know and what do you all think and then we can bring back kind of so is there anything on this policy framework that we want to direct back to that workshop that that we're not happy at all with because i i mean i think this is a good list good angelina is there is there specific directions we would want you would want us to give to you related to a joint workshop well i'm just hearing what commissioner perzia said just specifically about the religious organizations but if we were going to try to expand that to the non-profit or and maybe consider that as an addition i would like i would like to do that yeah i haven't heard any objection to that i i kind of feel strongly about health care organizations as well even though they're for profit because we have such a need for mental health housing right now and that there might be an opportunity there talking about like palm gardens like seniors like a no i'm talking about actual housing for folks that have mental health issues oh yeah but like you're going like adjacent to a hospital where it's commercially zoned yes you know like halfway house kind of thing for folks that are um there's a long wait list right now for folks coming out of state facilities with mental health issues for housing so would those be more like rental units or those would be more rental units i'm not familiar with that model so we'll have to take a look at that yeah i don't yeah i don't know i i haven't seen that specific model but i feel like it's a model that could be so can i ask a question could we maybe refer to a hack group to have the conversation about the yes in god's backyard and keep it focused on the religious entities because that's a law that's literally coming down the pike at us now and we want to get some structure in place for it so that we can be ahead of it and have proactive legislation meaning are we doing 10 versus 30 right like let's go ahead and get those things in place and have the conversation with a hacks and then have the public workshop with the ideas and get feedback on them and bring that back to this board and in the meantime we could refer to staff to look into how civic organizations and health core organizations might also that's what i thought we were doing actually so yeah that's perfect we could have another kind of conversation about because that feels a lot broader and it could be a lot more land and schools and all those yeah that's a lot more but we we heard about this in naco this yes in god's backyard that's so it's being done because it was already presented that way i don't know why we need to because we can put we're allowed to we're not reinventing it we're putting we can put structure around it so we're allowed instead of them just being able to do 10 housing and do it at 120 ami we can say they have to do 50 housing and they have to do it at 50 ami like we can put different requirements that's what you're asking a hack yes to put together like to ask for them to give us recommendations on what they think those thresholds should be in coordination with the religious organizations because the minimums are a high ami 120 percent and a low affordable housing 10 and we would like to have more and and we're trying to get more affordable housing stock i see so you're just you're presenting this to a hack for their ideas around this because they have not heard it they heard the basics of it but they haven't had a chance to discuss and make a recommendation to us and the city is interested in this too and would like i mean at least i've had a conversation with two commissioners who would like for us if we're going to do it to have a unified program so okay everyone's on the same page so i'd like for both a hex to sort of talk about well you know the thresholds as long as we can keep the idea of the schools in mind because when terwilliger was up there right there across from the mall that was there they had their playground and then they had lots of acreage behind that as well that was not being used and uh it's so i just just to clarify a church right now could build housing on their property tax-free for property taxes as long as they provide at a minimum 10 affordable housing up to 120 no no that's not correct correct me they can ask you they can ask us and the the problem is that there's no standard in our code for that so let's say a church comes up with this idea and says we want to do this and they come to you saying we want to do this we don't know how to regulate that we don't have a standard because we don't have any standards for that um development scenario so i think what we're what we're attempting to do is get on the front end of that where someone's not coming to you with a request that's sort of out of nowhere right and just saying i can already do this if you if you let us and and the sort of second part of that is you know i don't think any of you are would would be in this situation but there could be places where you might say well we like the baptists and we're going to let them do it but we don't like the presbyterians so we're not going to let them do it and we we definitely don't want the board to be in that kind of situation or any anything even if it weren't that cut and dry you know that it were i don't like your presentation but i like theirs that kind of thing i think what we really want to do is create if the board wants standards religious institutions to be able to do this that there's a standard set where somebody can come in and just say this is how i do it if i'm going to do it and they don't have to ask they don't have to ask the board every time start with the yes in my backyard yeah and i think what i heard from ahac was that they would want really high standards because if we're giving them the opportunity to build tax-free housing then it should be primarily affordable housing not ten percent of it affordable housing but the majority of the teachers to the community yeah so and and the organization perfect okay all right next slide does that get did that give you the did you hear what you need to what i understand is ahac is going to be picking this up for um yeah we'll get a motion for yigbee specifically correct and then we as staff will go and establish some kind of yeah well research yeah i think um the next slide probably isn't necessary um given kind of where the discussion has gone because these are more sort of like specific standards really development standards um and i think those will probably build from discussions that ahac has if there's something that's very particular to you that's sort of that dimensional or design standard as it relates to this um we certainly can take that uh into consideration as we move forward but i you know i think we generally have implemented if it's multifamily it's designed like multifamily no matter whether it's live local or it's multifamily or it's something else it's it's multifamily if it's single family it's designed like single family and you know you move on with that so well these will be really helpful for ahac too and yeah just thinking through yeah and we'll we'll kind of build that out and provide some examples of for example how the local act is implemented versus you know a standard multifamily development or single family development we can definitely do what's the effective date of 1730 it's effective now okay got it it doesn't it's um you know it's not one of those sort of shotgun bills where you have to adopt something by a certain date we have one of those coming to you next week but it is one of those you know it's it's out there so somebody could walk in the door tomorrow with that request understood go ahead so yeah you've kind of already perused the design standard considerations but um so that's just unit type personal size building height setbacks parking and then open space requirements like chris was mentioning which is developing as if they were a multifamily and what those requirements might be so um but outside of that i'm ready for that direction put that direction i would move we refer the question of the yes and god's backyard standards to the affordable housing advisory committee to provide us recommendations and ask that we also coordinate with the city's affordable housing advisory committee in order to ideally align our two programs do we want to add oh and to then ask for feedback from the faith community on those standards and bring back those recommendations to the board of county commissioners second okay got a second uh on that thank you for the motion is there any public discussion to the motion kelly welcome come on up thank you for being here let's see housing i think i've thought about this um i want to suggest that you do sooner than later start sending out info like send the churches an info sheet about what the state has authorized and it may mary helen i really agree all those spaces out there the schoolyards the malls the empty storefronts all that but this is what the state has authorized now so it's the path of less resistance to focus on what they're inviting you to do you know how they get you know so um and um what was the other what's not a bit important you will attend the workshop so i presume oh i kind of have to yeah yeah tomorrow i'll be at the ahac and the housing finance and the housing authority so i have to i want to bridge all these together and uh thank you for putting something out there i think the churches will want to do this and um and mount carmel would be just a great example and it's been going on for what for 30 40 years yeah yeah that's great thank you uh anyone else all right spring back to the board any other discussions by the board okay all those in favor say yeah hi any opposed the motion passes thank you very very much angelina thank you okay next up we have closing comments uh from the public and then we'll do the board so public comment hi good afternoon hi mark hi um this is snert hi start it's my mom's bestie okay and now when i leave the house it doesn't know what to do it's like always you know he's with you he likes lows because there's a lady there a treat gives him treats and there's other dogs there too so um so my name is mark van suspergen and i was i was gonna really talk about like knowing what to do it's like a story where it's the middle of the night it's very beautiful and the boat's coming along and all of a sudden there's this rumbling and all of you know like ten minutes later the realization is is that water is coming on board at a rate that is basically you know nothing they can do about it the boat's going to sink and so it takes a while for people to realize like what the options are and then you know the guy says the guy in charge let's say or somebody else says hey guys go downstairs because there's over 840 wooden doors on this boat doesn't matter you rip them off you get the tools or rip them off because a wooden door you know you could basically float on a wooden door there's also 600 wooden tables on board and some of them are like you know in the in the first class lounge over 120 that seat between 10 and 12 people so you take those and the ladies maybe get the ladies to grab the uh you know the tables from the from the kitchen area or from the dining area so you grab those those tables you turn them upside down it's like a little lifeboat you can put like three kids an adult on there so anyway that's the story is that basically nobody needed to die the guy up there just froze like he was gnawing his teeth because somebody gave him i think some rich guy told him to go really fast and he didn't want to go fast and he just locked up into this idea that this happened to them to him he was responsible and he just couldn't get out of his little box but anyway all the all the tools to make it out there were available on board and it was just a matter of coordinating it and that's kind of the story and the same goes for us we have all the tools available that we need in order to go through this transition you know once the polar ice cap goes it's going to go really fast you talked about backyards and stuff like that just now well how many backyards do we have can we get a thousand people on board or five thousand so the tools that are available it's just a matter of coordinating them and isolating them and then just thinking about the church it's so true because those are little pods that can serve as an extension of what you guys uh you know plan and as long as they're involved and they know the terminology and what their options are and how you can assist them and the same goes for hoas anyway it was a beautiful night and it was a you know crystal clear sky there was a boat like two hours off the distance there was no waves there was no reason for anybody to drown all of the flotation devices were on board that's it good story you always make a thing thank you mark thank you snirk anyone else snirk yeah great name it is a great name all right uh we'll now move to commission comments chuck do you have anything i have no yeah you have anything i have a question about the arbor house that you sent a note to everyone about or you're or that we sent oh i sent it to michelle yeah yes and it came to all of us though yeah i copied you all um just so you know uh i don't know that i have okay claudia claudia claudia may have a response to that okay and before we end i do have something i would like to print hi claudia claudia tuck director community support services thank you um i have reached out to laurie schiffbauer and she reached out to eric lipman uh the board chair for st francis and we're going to set up a meeting next week to talk about what their needs are and to see what recommendations we may have as staff and then bring anything back to you okay super thank you anything else no that was it thank you uh i got a suggestion from an employee at the jail for a um interesting idea which would be to help the sheriff fund something called a health director at the jail who would manage the medical contract would help coordinate mental health as as well as you know coordinate with outside agencies on mental health could oversee um nutrition uh in terms of um they would be in place if there was ever anything like another pandemic type situation having a medical director or a health director at the jail would be very useful there because we're basically asking people that aren't experts on health to oversee these contracts and to manage all these functions and i thought it was an excellent idea so i was going to ask if we could refer to staff the idea to think about that because it might help us get more bang for our buck out of those contracts that we have if we have someone that's overseeing all of that mr chair um a couple things i mean i know they do have well path does have a medical director and such but as far as somebody overseeing that um we can look into that but i would also let the board know that um i actually met yesterday for the first time with the ceo the new ceo with uf health he also brought along the chief medical officer and the chief nursing officer and we had a very productive conversation about potential solutions and out of the box things we can talk about doing in the future to reduce costs on both sides of the ledger for for uf health and for us both on the jail um and inmate medical as well as on you know collaboration more on community health programming and other things to basically keep people from going to the hospital that may not need that level of acute care to to allow for inmates to have a high level of care that may not require hospitalization that would reduce costs on both sides so we're looking um you know we we um like i said had a great collaborative meeting and are looking at um moving forward i think our next meeting we counted up like there's going to be like 15 people to include their side we've got representatives from the jail we've got representatives from our side both you know fire rescue that so all of us involved to start those conversations so our legislative agenda ask was successful um you know i think they understand that um we're not the first and we're we're also not going to be the last um of the counties that are going to put that forward and is probably going to be uh a state it's a simple change to the state frankly statute to add the word subdivision of the state where it applies to state inmates um so you know it's it's it's a simple change which i do think is probably coming down the pike so i think their recognition has been that if we're going to see a reduce and what a reduction in what we are that's like a pro let's be proactive to see how we can offset that in other ways because we do work with them on a number of things great and so um and i think that would benefit us all around we agree you know the ultimate goal is to provide quality care to everybody in our community no matter where they reside um and um at the you know quality care at the most efficient and lowest cost we can do to lessen that burden on taxpayers because of course they're also a public hospital and we were responsible for medicaid and i think that's great so mary does that accomplish kind of what you're looking for it might sort of like um i'm curious is there any way for me to be put in with that at all i think we would um yeah we'll keep you you know informed and i think take that under under advisement as far as you know ways we can look at that um as we move forward right i think cgm sag might have some well what we're used to be cgm sag and now some sort of like cgm sag might have some thoughts on it as well yeah um on the board assignments i think i picked you on that you're on that'd be great are you on that right now i am yeah and i think it's the chair or designee and i think i kept you all right thank you yeah and at some point we'll probably be ready to do that right now we're just looking at um a kickoff to discuss data exchange because what we really need to know is understand where everybody is at and so that's really what where we're starting is what do you need to see as far as data what do we need to see as far as data to start really um understanding yeah having them engage is great great if i could add to that before we change over um so i was told at a fact meeting last year that law had changed and we they are now allowing local hospitals like uh uf shans to provide medical care total all the medical care in a jail if they so if they want to um and that it did they mention anything like that at all no no i mean no that wasn't that wasn't part of it um it really you know it should be on around inmate inmate medical costs that we're paying but then it got to how did they offset that change because there are there are dollars on both sides of the ledger well right and there's like you know there's the whole medical records issue in terms of like you know maintaining continuity of care all those things that you know who would be a benefit but you know they would have to want to do it so it was a very positive start so you bringing that up just happened to coincide with the fact that no no no started that meeting which which was started because i wanted to make sure they understood there's two parts there's reduced costs more efficient but i think the major point that commissioner offered is is better care um since we know a third of our jail population is diagnosed diagnosed with a medical illness yes yeah it just seems to be a lot of holes in the system so i want to bring something to your attention i i just sent an email to some of our staff team today i i have a new intern her name is kathleen Ojeda she's awesome kathleen what oh i think it's Ojeda i haven't asked her to say her last name it's o-j-e-d-a is how is how it's spelled um she is awesome she is a public health undergraduate and she's going to be working with me on a number of different things but one of the things that i am asking her to help with is um the the lead of the safety net collaborative laura guyer she's sort of like volunteer facilitator of that group traditionally would like get a team of students and have them go through the community and get updated information for a lot of the resource social service resources that exist out there and keep kind of a guide that was pretty active and it was sort of the go-to guide for social services food housing utilities etc and um then she retired and so she stopped doing that and then there was the two-in-one and the find help and there's like all these conversations about resource guides well i think there's been an a sort of a a genuine general understanding that find help is probably the tool that most people are using um and uf health is now working with find help to integrate it into their my chart so they are going to be doing referrals to social services through find help which is an okay idea except that they're going to probably somewhat overwhelm the system right because they're starting to like send their patients because they like talk to their patients about their social needs now right they're screening them for social determinants of health which is a good thing but then because they've screened them they have a mandate to do something about it right so they find out this person's food insecure well now they have to give them a referral to something but right now it's an unfunded thing they're giving them referrals to these community resources in our communities with no funding associated with it so now these community organizations that already have the people they serve all the time are going to start getting these patients so i think there's a couple things that i guess i'm saying the first is that i think having that resource guide as up to date as we possibly can and having it robust and well done and i know that we've already referred that to staff to think about the sort of a unified guide but um i just offer up kathleen's services she's going to try to work with laura and those students who are going to be around this spring semester that are able to gather some of that information but if we can work with you up health because they now have a paid contract with find help to do this integration and one of the challenges we've had is getting find help to respond to us and to work with us on like a mass data dump and things like that like things that we might be able to do to make sure that that resource guide is robust so i'm just throwing that out there to let you know i'm working on it kathleen is working on it and i've reached out to our staff team to kind of just keep that ball moving and mr chair i am happy to you know reach out to each of you individually of course and and have some discussions on your thoughts on on you know what what points we need to look at from your perspective on the policy level yeah to work on and then um well i would just say the only the second part of that thought is that and that is one is the resource guide integration and just sort of talking to them about leveraging their paid relationship with find help to think about how we make that guide as robust as we can for our community as a whole not just for uf health but the second is that as they begin to do social services referrals they really need to start thinking about fee and loo billing because if they're going to refer out to our community organizations to provide that care to their patients then they can bill there are a lot of billing codes for community health workers for produce prescriptions right there for and so if they can bill fee and loo or bill a specific prescription for exercise or for housing or for food or and we can start seeing some of that cost sharing like they can cost share that fee and live fund right they get some referral fee but then the actual organization could get some of that funding we're seeing that model in food is medicine and we have a regional network of people that are thinking about the food is medicine thing here locally and myself and pastor duncan are co-chairs on that and want to start having those conversations but it goes beyond just food there's other components to that right those referrals are all the social determinants of health so it's and if we don't find sustainable funding sources to support those organizations they're just going to drown so those are two things i have a question is this the program that kaiser and the king's been working on for a couple years what thing the find help i have no idea i i met with her about it about a year ago and if so probably one of yeah if so one of the things that that she was saying as a problem was there is a way for as resources are used up at any particular community resource there's a way for them to get removed from the electronic list so that they don't continue to receive referrals after they no longer have the resources to serve for people so right that's a training whole extra set of training that is in the community that might be a hole that we need to work on fillings well it's also being able to track the referrals like right now it's just like you know the referrals are going we don't even know like which ones are getting filled and which ones are running into dead ends so it's like they refer people out and then we don't have a way to track those referrals so they're that's what i mean there's like a whole potential to create a much more robust process and integrated system across social service needs yeah i think i talked to claudia about it yeah yeah but we just don't have it just hasn't it's like i think it's been ctac's been talking about it for a while and i know christy goldwire was working on it with our team i know our team has thought about it and worked on it safety net collaborative as a group of social service organizations has thought about it but there hasn't been like at least that i've noticed like a like co-cohering of like ideas and then a momentum forward it's a very big complicated thing quite frankly for it to work well but it's what it does work well as i understand it has done it i think with durham somewhere like that that it worked pretty good so so anyway anything thank you no that's all i just wanted to clarify if that was the same thing i'm not sure anything else yeah no that was all good michelle yes i wanted to make sure because it is before our next board meeting and we have pushed out some social media but i i promised i would announce this i'm doing the mark thing today so as you're aware we participate in the um in the gun violence prevention alliance in the city of gainesville they took the responsibility for bringing on board of consultants um the consultant has completed their work and now has a final report and i'm in the process didn't get it finished of forwarding you the the full report it's about 70 pages along with uh their presentation that they're going to give it's a powerpoint so i'll be forwarding that to you along with the flyer but um at the alliance meeting on december 8th at the blount center from 5 30 to 7 30 the community is invited to this um the consultant is going to be unveiling the results of that report one day next monday uh eight is that monday yeah yeah monday five to nine five thirty five thirty five thirty seven thirty at the blount center um um as i understand it they met with some 200 plus stakeholders over the course of five months in developing this this strategic plan looking forward um and everybody seems to be i haven't honestly just received it this morning the full 70 page report so i have not read it myself but i'll be forwarding that on to you to review as well um and then they'll be unveiling that and presenting it to the community on monday the 8th and so i wanted to make sure to get that out there they are we have already pushed that out earlier today through our social media channels to make sure the public is aware okay excellent anything else nope all right so commissioners we'll have our board meeting of december on tuesday wednesday joint meeting with the city two items on the agenda um commissioner duncan walker is going to give a presentation on the um idea about a cultural arts center and then we'll have the food information systems kind of debriefing and also presentation from our staff all right and if there's nothing else anna you have something else no it's all right i'll just ask michelle so i'll ask michelle afterwards if there's nothing else we have a wedding on friday just congratulations all right we're adjourned is it here no it's in jackson